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Friday, January 26, 2007
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Fight Today or Occupy Forever
by Jonah Goldberg
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Then, when the president mentioned ending genocide in Darfur, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her party leaped to their feet.

Perhaps such applause is mere grace on the cheap. Democrats know they can count on their beloved United Nations to prevent serious intervention in Sudan's civil war. Or maybe the Democrats really want action in Darfur, even though that would put us smack dab in the middle of a civil war, which Jack Murtha, Joe Biden, and other war critics invoke as a classic blunder the way Vizzini referred to land wars in Southeast Asia in "The Princess Bride."

The 11th Commandment for liberals seems to be, "Thou shalt not intervene out of self-interest." Intervening in civil wars for humanitarian reasons is OK, but meddling for national security reasons is not. This would explain why liberals supported interventions in civil wars in Yugoslavia and Somalia but think being in one in Iraq is the height of folly. If only Truman had called the Korean civil war a humanitarian crisis, Ike might not have called the whole thing off.

None of this explains why Democrats are so eager to support continued U.S. fighting against the Taliban as part of NATO forces in Afghanistan, even though that puts us between two sides in what amounts to an Afghan civil war. But maybe Afghanistan is a humanitarian crisis too. Or maybe it's an excuse for Democrats to prove they are still tough as far as foreign policy. Or maybe Democrats simply think the war in Iraq is lost, while there's still hope in Afghanistan ... assuming there's a principle in there somewhere.

There seems to be only one hope for persuading the Democrats to support staying in Iraq. Let's just beat the rush and call Iraq a humanitarian crisis now. It surely is already. And if we leave prematurely, Iraq will undoubtedly give Darfur and Yugoslavia a run for their money as a humanitarian horror show. Why wait for calls to return to stop the bloodshed?

It's even possible that an Iraq left to fend for itself might become a national security threat on a par with nuclear-armed North Korea.

Not that national security should factor into it.

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tomgee
What I meant by my previous post about head spinning was that merely trying to follow many peoples rendition of history has been...perplexing at best. Your's is at least as much as I understand, acceptable to the timeline .

Now back to the business at hand.

"Bush is not a good communicator and therefore hasn't been able to unify a policy for Islamist "containment".

I would at this point submit this statement. George Bush has not been able to unify a policy for Islamist "containment", in my opinion because of one reason.

George Bush has NO plan for islamist containment!

Here comes the simplicity of purpose part.

George Bushs plan is to KILL RADICAL ISLAM.


Why Iraq over Afghanistan? LOGISTICS
You have to have a sustainable base to go after Iran and Syria.

No containment of these radicals simply draw them out to a point of our choosing and destroy them.
If we succeed in Iraq it will become the richest most stable power in the mid.east. next to Isreal. Is that pie in the sky? not really before gulf 1 they were in the top position(militarily) in The Mid east(excluding Isreal). Is it easy? is buy low sell high?

I like your bit about Carter reasonable analysis.
On vietnam that was,...... I would not at this time be able to back up my claim but I think it gave reason for pause in any big projects the soviets had planed for that era, and I do think they had a lot more than a ride along with noriega(sp).
Also with Bush and communication. I think he is alright as presidents go I just think Reagan is about untouchable, and Clinton obviously among the best,no Reagan though(leastwise says me). How can you be average or maybe a little above and look good when probably 3/4 of the voters remember those two.?




tomgee
I must say conversing with you has not spun my head as fast as trying to make sense of msm bloggers.....must sleep now try answer later.
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