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Friday, January 26, 2007
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Fight Today or Occupy Forever
by Jonah Goldberg
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"As I look at Iraq, I recall the words of former general and soon-to-be-President Dwight Eisenhower during the dark days of the Korean War, which had fallen into a bloody stalemate. 'When comes the end?' ... And as soon as he became president, he brought the Korean War to an end." This was part of freshman Virginia Sen. Jim Webb's much ballyhooed stentorian Democratic response to President Bush's State of the Union address.

One wonders if the untold millions of North Koreans who've starved, bled and died since then would similarly applaud Eisenhower's courage and wisdom. For more than half a century, North Korea has been a prison-camp society beyond the imagining of George Orwell, where public executions for stealing food are familiar events. The man-made famine of the 1990s alone claimed the lives of up to 1 million people (hard data from Stalinist regimes are difficult to come by).

One also wonders: When are our troops going to come home? Technically, the Korean War isn't really over. We're merely enjoying a cease-fire - much like the one we had with Iraq in the 1990s.

While Webb favors a "formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq," our forces in South Korea have been there for nearly six decades. Something tells me the antiwar base of the Democratic Party doesn't have that sort of timetable in mind for Iraq.

So, except for the fact that the Korean War didn't end, our troops are still there, and the outcome has been the source of humanitarian and national security nightmares, Webb's salute to Eisenhower's statesmanship really strikes home.

In fairness, Webb is a thoughtful man who takes foreign affairs more seriously than most politicians. But his closest-weapon-to-hand style of attack against Bush does not reflect well on him or the Democratic Party that chose him to be its representative.

But it is revealing. Indeed, the Democratic Party's most honest moment Tuesday night came not in Webb's brusque words but in the Democrats' brusquer body language.

The president asserted that no one wants failure in Iraq. Understandably, the commander in chief wanted to avoid conceding how very real a possibility failure is, so he chose his rhetoric carefully. He spoke in the abstract about the bipartisan desire for victory and success.

And yet the Democrats for the most part sat on their hands, refusing to applaud, never mind rise in favor of such statements from a wartime president. Continued...

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tomgee
What I meant by my previous post about head spinning was that merely trying to follow many peoples rendition of history has been...perplexing at best. Your's is at least as much as I understand, acceptable to the timeline .

Now back to the business at hand.

"Bush is not a good communicator and therefore hasn't been able to unify a policy for Islamist "containment".

I would at this point submit this statement. George Bush has not been able to unify a policy for Islamist "containment", in my opinion because of one reason.

George Bush has NO plan for islamist containment!

Here comes the simplicity of purpose part.

George Bushs plan is to KILL RADICAL ISLAM.


Why Iraq over Afghanistan? LOGISTICS
You have to have a sustainable base to go after Iran and Syria.

No containment of these radicals simply draw them out to a point of our choosing and destroy them.
If we succeed in Iraq it will become the richest most stable power in the mid.east. next to Isreal. Is that pie in the sky? not really before gulf 1 they were in the top position(militarily) in The Mid east(excluding Isreal). Is it easy? is buy low sell high?

I like your bit about Carter reasonable analysis.
On vietnam that was,...... I would not at this time be able to back up my claim but I think it gave reason for pause in any big projects the soviets had planed for that era, and I do think they had a lot more than a ride along with noriega(sp).
Also with Bush and communication. I think he is alright as presidents go I just think Reagan is about untouchable, and Clinton obviously among the best,no Reagan though(leastwise says me). How can you be average or maybe a little above and look good when probably 3/4 of the voters remember those two.?




tomgee
I must say conversing with you has not spun my head as fast as trying to make sense of msm bloggers.....must sleep now try answer later.
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