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Friday, September 14, 2007
Jon Sanders :: Townhall.com Columnist
Unfortunately for D.C., there are no condoms for guns
by Jon Sanders
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The city of Washington, D.C., wants the Supreme Court to reverse an appeals court's decision to overturn its ban on private ownership of handguns. That pesky Second Amendment is involved. It's too bad D.C. doesn't approach the problem of its citizens being harmed by gun violence (even though guns are banned) the way it does the problem of citizens being harmed by contracting HIV.

First, about the gun ban. In March, a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, citing the Second Amendment, ruled 2-1 against the city's ban, which allowed only active and retired law enforcement officers to own handguns, and it also frowned upon the city's law mandating trigger locks or disassembly of rifles and shotguns in private homes.

In appealing to the Supreme Court, District Attorney General Linda Singer called the city's ban "eminently reasonable" and stated, "Whatever right the Second Amendment guarantees, it does not require the District to stand by while its citizens die."

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty (D) declared, "The only possible outcome of more handguns in the home is more violence." Obviously the mayor and the city's leadership equate the presence of a handgun with an irresistible urge to use it.

Speaking of irresistible urges, D.C. isn't standing by while its citizens contract HIV, either, although its approach is entirely different. The district seeks to protect citizens from death via gun by banning or disabling guns. Delicacy prevents making the analogy explicit, but the tactic adopted by the city to protect citizens from death via sexually transmitted disease is to give away free condoms.

The free condoms are imported from China, emblazoned with the municipally sanctioned double entendre "Coming Together to Stop HIV in D.C." and offered in bowls displayed in laundromats, restaurants, and other locations. Rather than a cumbersome and unenforceable ban on unsafe behavior, the city opts to promote less-unsafe behavior without caveats. Why not avoid the constitutional problem altogether by adopting a similar approach with respect to guns?

What would be so laughable about having bowls on display in restaurants, convenience stores, laundromats and other locations that would offer free rubber bullets? If the only conceivable outcome (conceivable to a D.C. official, that is) of a privately owned handgun is the violent use of it, why not protect people from that violence by giving them rubber bullets?

Those bullets, some of which are made of metal encased in rubber, are safer than regular bullets and have been used by police worldwide for crowd control – expressly to fire on people without killing them. Studies have shown that rubber bullets cause no permanent harm when they are use at great distances and strike the legs.

Granted, studies have also found that rubber bullets can cause permanent damage when striking the torso, the neck, and the head, and that about 60 percent of rubber-bullet injuries were above the navel. In fact, rubber bullets have killed people, especially when fired at too close a range. They are safer than regular bullets, but this relative safety is rather dependent upon the strict adherence to proper firing procedures.

If D.C. were to follow its condom giveaway model, however, it wouldn't need to warn people about the importance of safe procedures. Just let the public think they're safe by virtue of their being present, without regard for how they're used. That's how condom campaigns work (not just D.C.'s, but nigh on all of them).

Rare is the condom giveaway or promotion "for safety" that gives the comprehensive message on condoms and safety as does the U.S. Center for Disease Control and Prevention. Condoms offer effective prevention against HIV transmission – that's where the giveaway programs and advocates tend to stop. But the CDC offer more nuance. Their fact sheet on "Male Latex Condoms and Sexually Transmitted Diseases" notes first that abstinence or staying in a long-term, mutually monogamous relationship with an uninfected partner is the best method of avoiding STDs. Afterwards, for "persons whose sexual behaviors place them at risk of STDs," it cites the risk-reducing measures of "correct and consistent use" of condoms – and after citing that "condom use cannot guarantee absolute protection against any STD," it stresses again that condoms must be used "correctly and consistently." Incorrect use "diminish[es] their protective effect," and inconsistent use "can lead to STD transmission because transmission can occur with a single act of intercourse."

Delineating correct use would bog down a punchy slogan, however. It's unlikely the city would adopt "Coming Together to Stop HIV in D.C., Providing These Are Used Correctly and Consistently, and We Mean Completely Unrolled and Donned Each and Every Time Before Genital Contact Occurs and Lubricated and Stored Properly As Well As Used Within a Reasonable Amount of Time After Manufacture."

Even then, it would still have to carry the caveat, "Guarantee Void If Used For Anal Intercourse," for as the CDC have also noted, "condoms are more likely to break during anal sex than during vaginal sex. Thus, even with a condom, anal sex can be risky."

Of course, were D.C. to adopt the "free-condoms approach" to gun violence, however, one would hope officials would do a better job of ensuring manufacture of the rubber bullets than they did of the condoms. D.C.'s condom giveaway program has weathered heavy criticism of late for its Chinese-made condoms appearing poorly manufactured, for being poorly packaged, and for expiration dates being illegible.

Oh, and the program's name. It would have to be something along the lines of "Taking a Shot At Eliminating Gun Violence in D.C.," wouldn't it?

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Let's have a brains giveaway
Fenty can be the first recipient. Of course, the brain should be labeled "only for use in extreme emergency".

Talk about a dim bulb.


I am, however, quite happy the case is going to SCOTUS. Hopefully, they'll grant cert and we can get a definitive pro-gun ruling, more forceful and definitive than the 1939 Miller ruling. Scalia and Thomas have both been looking for one, and now is certainly the right time.

Imagine: tens of thousands of gun laws throughout the country thrown out with the stroke of a pen!

Yeeeee-haw!

BrianR
Dittos, no, MEGA dittos on that one.

'Nuff said

Nice anal-ogy
The left only fights for Constitutional rights they AGREE with. It's perfectly acceptable to teach a 1st grader all about sex and "alternative choices" but try getting the ROTC representative into high school career day! But what's a Democrat going to do with a gun anyway? Use it to hold up the white flag? How's the quote go? Take away the guns and only criminals will have guns? Which, if they have their way and guns are outlawed nationwide, I will become. Only when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers...

dim bulb..
That, my friend... Is a gross understatement !!
Adrian Fenty brings new meaning to the word idiocy... I will never understand how seemingly intelligent people could put a guy like Adrian Fenty in the Mayor's seat.... Absolutely un friggin' believable

Virginia
The reason that D. C.'s gun ban does not work to reduce gun violence is that any D. C. resident who wants to can walk across the bridge to Virginia, where there is almost no obstacle to anyone buying any gun they wish (see: Virginia Tech massacre last spring). That's where most of D.C.'s guns are coming from.

Some people
GeorgiaGal writes: The reason that D. C.'s gun ban does not work to reduce gun violence is that any D. C. resident who wants to can walk across the bridge to Virginia, where there is almost no obstacle to anyone buying any gun they wish (see: Virginia Tech massacre last spring). That's where most of D.C.'s guns are coming from.

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So making handguns illegal in Virginia will keep handguns out of Washington? I'm wondering why that doesn't work for illegal aliens? They're illegal nationa wide - but yet they're every where - and a lot easier to find.

Or you could check out how a near total firearm ban has worked out for the island nations of England and Australia. At the rate they are increasing Washington DC might some day look safe in comparison.

Wash DC Mayor disregard for constatution
Evidently this guy wants everyone "profiled". Now according to most NAACP and ACLU cases, profiling is not a good thing. Well, if the mayor wants honest citizens to fore go their rights under the constitution, then he must be able to guarantee that there will be more crime and that the citizens can now be sure of being able to walk the streets of the nations capital day or night without fear of:rape, robbery, assault, mugging and murder. After all, he is asking everyone to totally depend on HIS ability to make everything perfect in Wash DC. May all the politicians should also eliminate there police protection as well, after all, the mayor has eliminated the threat of crime.

Fenty the Fool
Evidently he has completely eliminated crime from the city of D.C. Now since there is no threat of crime, politicians can now give up their police protection as it isn't necessary any longer. Evidently Fenty is personally guaranteeing no crime exists and therefore there is no need for honest citizens to be able to protect themselves. Maybe Fenty should walk the streets of DC at night with no "personal protection". Yup, Fenty the Fool.

GeorgiaGal

"The D. C. resident who wants to can walk across the bridge to Virginia, where there is almost no obstacle to anyone buying any gun they wish" is in multiple violations of federal an d state laws, to wit Con Control Act of 1968 , perjury, falsifying documents. What on earth makes you think they would obey a new one.

When the laws on the books are enforced and data is shared, there will be less guns in the hands of criminals. (See Rudy Guilani ) The VaTech killer would not gotten a fire arm if the doctor's information had been in the data base. The law already said he was not eligible, to purchase one, he lied on the application (BIG SURPRISE).

Bottom line, enforce the laws on the book before you make a new one.

DC secured in left condom
__Constantly exhaling, and inhaling, the same air. Wrapped tightly inside the embrace of self protection. They have been breathing that stale air for so long, that it has become a blue haze. A low hanging fog that, covers DC, and blinds its residence. The city of DC should be the poster child wrapped with, and reflecting, the principles embodied in the Constitution. Instead we find a city, being the living experiment of the left ideology. A population living in the control of theoretical legislation. Laws, rules, and regulations, put in place according to speculation. We now look at what this speculative action has produced. The forces of the left trying to prove a negative.

It's all about "potential"
The libs never apply "potential" to anything unless it is something the government can control...like guns. Because, really, every woman has the "potential" to be a whore and every man has the "potential" to be a rapist, but we (maybe not libs) teach our children (and have been taught) that those types of behaviors are wrong. So, in the lib's small mind, every person with a gun is a potential killer. (I omitted the "" around potential on purpose for that one.)

We also teach and have been taught it is wrong to steal and to kill. But, there are still people out there that do those things. Take that potential (gun) away and you reduce the potential for bad behavior. Since you can't "take away" the "potential" for whoring or raping, you band-aide it with rubber, latex, sheep gut, etc.

TeamNRA 4:03am
From an Endowment NRA memeber to a fellow NRA member, the reason that Fenty is Mayor is that he bought more votes. No person with any kind of intelligence would have voted for this "pond scum", otherwise.

Let's just hope when the case makes it to the Supreme Court that BrianR's post of 12:34am comes true!

Gun control
I'd remind everyone of the words of Sarah Brady, Handgun Control, Inc., [speaking to former Ohio Senator Howard Metzenbaum], "Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn't matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a Socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed."

(Source: The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.)

Go to the ACLU website
Not a word about protecting you 2A right. Plenty of crap about making sure men can legally molest young boys though.

Dave Stone
I think you may be on to something...

GeorgiaGal
Heroin and crack are illegal in Virginia.

How do D.C. residents obtain heroin and crack?

dbz77
They get it from their mayors?

Wrong
Big Daddy writes: dbz77
They get it from their mayors?

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I'm sure there's a government program that provides it along with the "clean" needles.

I'm always amazed
at people who want to do away with the 2nd amendment. So if you want to strike that right which one will you strike next, then which one after that?

I know why not just torch the Bill of Rights altogether. Then we will move on to that pesky Constitution.

Big Daddy and dbz77
Essentially they do get it from their mayors and govt. Free needle exchanges, turning a blind eye to drug abuse, giving them a place to perform said drug abuse is being complicit and co-dependent. If you need evidence go visit San Fransicko. You cannot walk anywhere in that city without seeing it.

The next change
When Hillary gets elected, there will be a 90 day waiting period on the use of the 1st amendment and she will repeal the 4th amendment.

To be upheld by Chief Justice W J Clinton.

If you lived in DC....
you would possibly understand.

Then again, most people on TH don't.

Their opinion doesn't really matter on this issue.

I agree with what Fenty is doing. These criminals shooting 13 year old children don't give a crap about the 2nd Amendment. They get the guns from MD/VA and bring it back to DC and kill innocent children.

How you stop it: You don't overturn the law so that even more individuals can be armed. This an urban area, not some place in the Midwest.

Things work differently here and more assault weapons/gun owners won't solve anything.

DavidMac
For the record, I am a gun owning man who has no love for Sarah Brady. I think Handgun Control Inc. has often resorted to questionable tactics in its attempt to disarm the american gun owner.

That said, the quote you attributed to her seemed a little fishy. Seriously, who would give such a statement to a news publication?

Anyway, I researched this extensively, and as I suspected, it is a fabricated quote. Sarah Brady never said this. And I did not discover that fact on some anti gun web site. You can confirm it yourself. Listen, I am on your side of this issue, but it does not benefit us to repeat lies about our ideological adversaries. Let them fall by their own words, not those falsely attributed to them. We do ourselves a great disservice when we don't get the facts right.

Ralph Ellison
Wow, way to shut down all the opposing viewpoints. "You would not possibly understand", was insulting enough, but you compounded that by saying, "Their opinion doesn't really matter on this issue"

Is it a coincidence that the places with the most stringent gun laws have the highest gun crime in the nation? And for that matter, why do the places with the most lax gun laws have the lowest gun crime in the country? By your logic, places with easier legal access to guns should have more gun crime. But then, the anti gun crowd never was much for meaningful statistics. They like stats like, "a thousand children were killed last month with guns!". Then you look into those stats and find that many of those "children" were seventeen year old gang bangers with two page rap sheets. Not exactly the same as a toddler playing in the back yard.

I have no inherent love of guns my friend. If I was assured we could live in a safe utopia by banning all guns, mine would be on top of the pile. Fortunately, I am not a moron; I know that such a country is a fantasy. The best way to keep people safe is to allow them the freedom to own a gun. And this is not just an opinion. It is backed up by decades of cold hard facts.

Well, Ralph Ellison
DC happens to be my home town, and I don't agree with a thing you wrote. Whatcha got to say to THAT?

Further, other people's opinions don't matter? Really? Someone die and appoint you King? DC withdraw from the rest of the US and become an independant country? (Though I kinda like THAT idea).

Puh-leeze. That was one absurd post.

Ralph
As I stated earlier, any one buying a weapon in VA and bringing it to DC would be in violation of numerous laws. There are plenty of laws concerning the illegal use of firearms. ENFORCE them.

Gun control has been historically used as a means to control the population more than the criminals who don't follow the law anyway.

I Feel Safe...Should I get a Gun?
I do not own a gun. I have never been a victim of a crime. I live in the Suburbs of a major NE City. A neighbor's home was robbed once 10 years ago, but he was away on vactation. He owns a gun now. Not sure how it would have protected his house if he is away. Other than the robber can steal his gun if he finds it.

So I feel Safe. If they are going to rob my house while I am away, a gun is useless.

Then if I get a gun, just in case. Being the probablity of defending my home is so remote, I now put my family at risk. There is now a chance (that never existed before) that my kid can find it and play with it. Accidentlly go off while I clean it. It doesn't make sense to me.

What am I missing?

If you assume that there
are more honest people in D.C. than there are criminals (may be a bad assumption since congress is there) then arming EVERY citizen would probably stop crime within a year. You may lose a few citizens along the way, but that is no change from what you have now where only the criminals and the politicians are armed. Evidence has shown that as the number of guns goes up in the population, the amount of crime goes down. Based on that, the gun control needed is the ability to put your rounds in a specified area consistently.

Ralphie
So your solution is not to allow law-abiding citizens to protect themselves. Are you willing to put your life on the line to protect your fellow DC-er's?

Obviously the government solution (police and restrictive gun laws) does not work. The government and liberals have duped the people of DC and the rest of the country in believing that the government is the solution to everything. Well, its not. The People are the solution, and if they band together and are allowed to exercise their God-given and Constitutionally protected right to self-protection, then you'll see the DC crime rate drop. Allow concealed weapon carry in DC and allow the People the right to live without fear.

bob - shooting is way too much fun to ever give up my guns!

Stedes
The bottom line is that if you don't want a gun, that's fine. That's your choice for yourself. Don't try to impose it on everyone else.

No one here is saying everyone should have a gun; we are saying everyone should have the ability to make the decision for themselves.

BTW, how often are you going to need your spare tire? But it's there if you ever DO need it, right?

I'll probably never need my gun, either, but if the situation ever DOES arise, I don't want to be stuck as the poor fool who can only bring a knife to a gunfight.

stedes
Doesn't sound like you need a gun. Not everyone should have a gun. You read like one.

Outlaw Firearms?
Attempts to control crime by outlawing weapons go back as far as recorded history.
Every instance has ended in DISASTER!
I doubt ant of the simple minded gunophobes who want to ban firearms are wise enough to learn from past failures to ban weapons.

On the subject of past failures of bans;
When was the last time you failed to hear firecrackers on July 4th?
How long have they been outlawed now? 1/2 a CENTURY?

Guns & ammo are just as easy to smuggle and far more profitable.

bob
Thank you for the correction on the Sarah Brady quote. I forget where I picked that up, but it rings true ideologically, if not in fact.

stedes
Ever hear of a gun safe???

Ralph Ellison
Don't understand? Ever hear of Oakland, Ca. I understand quite well.

My Opine
Yeah, disasters like the Holocaust (oops, forgot, libs think along the lines of Ahmadinejad...the Holocaust was a fabrication of the Jews).

Ralph Ellison
One other thing. do you honestly think that anyone who does drive by's let alone kill a 13 yr. old really cares about the laws let alone gun laws? Are you really that naive or just a simpleton?

To stede:
stede says: "Then if I get a gun, just in case. Being the probablity of defending my home is so remote, I now put my family at risk. There is now a chance (that never existed before) that my kid can find it and play with it. Accidentlly go off while I clean it. It doesn't make sense to me.

What am I missing?"

Do you own life insurance? Auto insurance? Ever been in an accident? Have a house fire or flooded basement? No? Yet the possibility of those things happening is there even if the probability is small. Same with home invasions. Think of a gun as life insurance that may keep you alive rather than paying out to your survivors.

As for your young child finding your gun, get one of the quick access safes on the market to store your gun in. As for it going off while you are cleaning it, learn basic firearms safety, learn your weapon inside and out. And when your kids are old enough, get them into a firearms safety class. Before that though, TAKE THEM SHOOTING WITH YOU! OFTEN!

What you are missing is EDUCATION! Learn safe and proper gun handling, teach your kids, and enforce the rules every time you take your kids shooting. That is what you are missing.

stedes
People like you who do not choose to own means to protect your family receive a measure of protection from every law abiding citizen who does own a gun.

A criminal who wants to invade a home has no way of knowing who owns the S&W .357 I use for a house gun.
He could be tying you to a chair when your wife or that cute little teenage daughter of yours offers him an option of laying on the floor to wait for police or falling on the floor to wait for the Coroner.

Police response time varies depending on location.
In just a few minutes a criminal can commit an atrocity at your home, rob you and leave before the police arrive to fill out forms.

However that criminal does not know your neighbors.
You could live next door to someone like BrianR or Vic or Big Daddy and you wife just might scream and yell for help.
An armed neighbor can respond in under 90 seconds and he is apt to be some Veteran who is more skilled at killing than taking prisoners.

Take away private firearms and you have nothing left but easy victims waiting to be preyed upon by criminals.

Where to start?
First, the issue of the countries, states and cities with the most stringent gun control laws tending to have more gun crime has been thoroughly covered.

But, stedes, a gun safe is certainly an option, but if your kid(s) are old enough teach them to shoot. Better yet, both of you find an NRA instructor (they're all over the place) and take instruction not only in the handling of weapons, but in the SAFE handling of weapons.

As an NRA member and holder of a FL CCW I would no more go unarmed than I would not brush my teeth. Of course there are times and places I am forbidden to carry, but that's another issue.

I'm not afraid. I'm just prepared.

As for Fenty, he reminds me of the old joke -- God gave man a brain and a p*nis, but only enough blood to use one at a time. Guess what Fenty must have been doing....

stedes, you are missing your brain
If you don't want a gun, don't get one! But don't tell me not to have a gun as it is my Constitutional right to keep and bear (own and carry) without infringement! Unless an amendment is passed that changes the wording of the 2nd Amendment, all gun laws are unConstitutional!!

stedes
It is easier to teach firearms safety to a small child than an adult.
Small children have an intense interest in firearms and every word you speak is permanently engraved in their brain.

Firearms should actually be used as a teaching aid.
They are associated with everything from chemistry to math & history and guns even created geography.

In an effort to bore a group of small children, I once gave them a highly technical lecture on internal ballistics.
They remembered every word I said, from pressure signs to case obturation to rifling twist in relation to bore diameter & bullet length.

That teaching aid can't be used in our schools though because the teachers are frightened by a picture of a gun on a T shirt!

Stedes
It must be nice to have never been a victim of a crime, I pray it stays that way. If you don't want a gun around and don't know how to handle it, don't get one. Also don't let anyone know that you are unarmed.
The best to you!

Education is the answer

As a Boy Scout leader, I did a "gun safety " course (using BB guns) that even the parents who did not own a weapon approved of.

We showed how easily the gun could break an egg (tougher than an eye). We taught them to consider ALL guns as loaded ALL the time.

The best thing for a child of parents who do not own guns to know is gun safety.

Don't touch without permission.
They are always loaded.
Don't point at anything you do not want to shoot.
IT IS NOT A TOY!

Here ends the lesson ( for today).

Education is the Answer, con't.
Also teach a kid to get out of the room/house if someone finds a gun. Above all: Tell an adult!

Safety?
Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither. -Ben Franklin

Stedes
One more point. Unless they're suicidal no one tries to clean a loaded weapon.

drew
That line about someone getting them selves killed by cleaning a loaded gun is used a lot by the surviving family members wanting to cover up a suicide. It somehow sounds better then trying to explain why someone would kill themselves in their family. I not sure how to clean a loaded gun without the bullets getting in the way.

Big Daddy
Thanks for the con't

Excellent points.

Packrat
I got your 6.

You haven't a clue..
Stedes... Folks like you and Ralphie should never even consider owning a gun... Your complete lack of even a basic understanding on the subject of firearms shows that you do not possess the level of responsibility that goes along with firearm ownership..... Should you or a member of your family ever be targeted to be the victim of a crime, your best bet is to dial 911 on that cell phone of yours, and hope for the best...

TeamNRA
or they can cower in a corner and keep repeating, "Take Me to the Happy Place."

Some people lack self control.
Persons who demand instant gratification in everything and lack personal integrity should not be trusted firearms.

Dave Stone
Problem with your approach - Why do you think the left is so gung-ho on illegal immigration?

If the new wave of Latin American immigrants were intent on assimilating - considering how hard most of them work imagine the success they'd have - do you think the left would be so in favor of not stemming the tide?

IMHO, if that were the case we'd have a wall from San Diego to the Gulf of Mexico that would make the Berlin wall look like chicken wire.

Not a DC fellow myself...
...I'm from Baltimore, right up the street. I've spent my nearly entire adult life running local deliveries in the Balto/DC area, and know the ins and outs of both cities better than many of their residents. This certainly includes the areas that Mayor Fenty and alike would never dream of walking through alone at night. Indeed, I definitely know Anacostia better than I know Georgetown.

Georgia Gal-

If the problem is the abundance of handguns in VA due to the state's more liberal laws regarding ownership and sales, then why are the murder and violent crime rates in Arlington and Fairfax counties VA a fraction of those of DC? For that matter, why are VA rates lower than MD's, which has much stricter gun control laws?

Also, you are wrong about DC criminals being able to buy handguns in VA without obstacle. In fact, a gun store in VA cannot sell a handgun directly to any non-Virginian. Unless the laws have been changed since the last time I checked them, the only way to legally buy a handgun outside of your home state is to have the out of state dealer ship the weapon to a federally licensed firearms dealer in your home state. From there you do the paperwork, waiting period, etc.. Since there are no licensed dealers in DC, criminals are still going to the black market, which is actually much easier in the District than it is in VA.


My rant, continued

Ralph Ellison-

Things really don't work any differently in DC than in any other major city, at least not in this arena, and the gun ban has provided the proof.

The homicide and violent crime rates in DC have grown nearly every year since the ban went into effect, and this is responsible in no small part (though not solely) to the fact that decent and law abiding residents of DC are legally prohibited from defending themselves from the criminal element, and the criminals know it. Unarmed citizens live at the mercy of the thugs in their midst, which will invariably be armed. DC is the perfect example of this. Criminals operate with impunity, unafraid of punishment or reprisal (except maybe from each other, in the narcotics game). The citizenry's only real line of defense is DCPD, who themselves are vastly outnumbered and outgunned, and either way are not omnipotent nor omnipresent. The police cannot protect you, only clean up the mess after the deed is done.

Also your statement about DC not being some midwest city is laughable, and truly displays your ignorance about the rest of the country. Midwest and southern cities have all the same problems DC does, they simply do a better job dealing with them. And lo and behold! The cities which have fewer laws restricting firearms ownership, and self defense in general, have lower violent crime rates than those who don't. My favorite is Chicago, where handguns are also banned, which routinely tops the nation in murders (raw numbers). DC, as you know, leads in per capita murder rate.


My rant, concluded
Stedes-

Your family is no more put at risk by having a gun in the house than by traveling in a car (the number of children killed in handgun accidents pales in comparison to those killed in automobile accidents). Like operating a vehicle, owning a gun comes with much responsibility: you must learn to use it safely, store it properly, educate your children about it and make sure they respect its power, etc. If you do not believe you can handle this responsibility, or simply do not want to, then you are right in choosing to not own a firearm. Personally, I wish more people would choose not to own cars for the exact same reason.

bigwhiskeysam
My car almost killed my wife and me, my gun has never tried.

A few replies
packrat: "Chief Justice W J Clinton" AARRGGGHHHH! Thanks for ruining my lunch!

Ralph: "How you stop it: You don't overturn the law so that even more individuals can be armed." You didn't say how to stop it, you said how not to stop it. This is known as "bass ackwards."

stedes: "I Feel Safe...Should I get a Gun?" Probably not. I don't own a life jacket because I'm not worried about drowning. The difference between getting a gun because you *might* need it and spare tires, fire insurance, etc. is that safe gun ownership requires training and attention. Just buying whatever is on sale and tossing it in a drawer not only won't be much help if it's ever needed, but could backfire on you.

Yes: pun intended.

Buzzard
Wondered how long it would take for someone to pick up on that :-)

Local vs Federal Law
Some local jurisdictions want handguns banned or tightly controlled. It seems that every time they move to legislate this, the NRA gets the local ban overturned. If conservatives favor local government, could some conservative please explain to us all here on townhall why it is appropriate for a national organization to lobby for national law that knocks out local law?

lilly
Please be aware;
Our Constitution SUPERSEDES all State & local laws.

Would you like your local government to curtail your freedom of religion or speech?

And YOU are a school teacher?

Enemies of the Constitution
In order for SCOTUS to affirm the DC gun ban they will have to rule the 2nd as being a right held not by the people but by the government. The Constitution was formulated to ensure the freedom of the people and limit the power of the government. That we would be able to defend ourselves from tyranny is why the 2nd exists.

SCOTUS ruling that an element of the BIll of Rights exists to protect a right of the government would be an abomination. The 2nd was designed to help protect freedom loving people from that type of government action.

safe working conditions
There are many laws to keep the workplace safe. What would your work place look like if there was no OSHA?

There is no goverment agency that exists to reduce my workplace hazards.

There are only a few dedicated democrat politicians that are constantly fighting to create a safe working environment for me, and those in my profession.

WE NEED TO KEEP THE GUN BAN.

My career is hazardous enough, having to deal with rival gangs, drive by's, and rich people with armed bodyguards, even without armed law abiding citizens/victims.

The gun ban also benefits local government. With high crime, every year, you vote for new bonds to increase money for police and new social programs to solve the problem. Next year, you will vote for the same bonds under a different name to still accomplish nothing.
Government keeps expanding, politicians keep friends employed.



fenty's constituent
Do you really think OSHA does anything for safety? If you do you need a large does of wake up and smell the coffee. In any event, this column has nothing to do with OSHA.

As for the gun bans, all of the legitement studies that have been done show that the anti gun laws have no impact on crime reduction and in most cases, have an adverse impact. That is, as the number and strictness of gun laws increase, the crime rate increases. You can't blame that on being bordered by low gun control States either. The Australian experiment has shown what happens. They introduced draconian gun laws, confiscated hundreds of thousands of guns, and crime skyrocketed.

BTW, are you in favor of opening up the borders because you can’t fiind and deport 12 million illegals?

Learn about that which you fear!
Stedes. you are a concerned parent, good for you, there I am on your side. However, I was raised in a house that had firearms. I was taught to respect them. Since the day I turned 21, I have always had a firearm in my home. They are not only my protection, but to also afford my neighbor a certain amount of protection, like my 86 year old neighbor. If you are concerned about your firearm and children, keep it in a bedside safe, where you alone arrange a combination, that can be operated by your fingers, without light. I was at the range day before yesterday, shooting a firearm that I had bought and had yet to try. (8 mm HiPoint, 10 shot, carbine.) My first grouping kept 8 out of 10 shots on the extreme right side of the target. I adjusted the sights, and the second grouping got a ten, several nines, several eights and a seven. Not good but not bad for someone 77 years old, that is forced to walk with canes. That makes me a potential victim, but not one who is totally helpless. My handgun skills, vary with the weapon I select to shoot. The one that I keep in my bedroom is a double barrel 12 gauge, with 00 Buckshot in it. Will it protect me. Of course, and there is not a burglar, with an ounce of brains, who does not fear firearms, especially shotguns. I have a pump shotgun next to it, but prefer to use the double barrel for protection, for their is not sound in preparing it to fire, just quietly slip the safety off and it is ready to do what it was designed to do. You speak like a man, with limited or no experience with firearms and with your attutude toward them, your Dad and Mom did not raise you to respect them, just to fear them. If you have any questions, I would be more than happy to answer them, if you were my neighbor, I would be more than happy to instruct you in their proper use and safety.
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