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Wednesday, June 03, 2009
John Stossel :: Townhall.com Columnist
Pay for Your Own Rescue
by John Stossel
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I have something to say to all those people who take dumb risks and then expect the rest of us to pick up the tab: Pay for your own stupid mistakes.

Almost every day rescuers save someone somewhere in America.

Sometimes rescuers put their own lives on the line. When climbers on Mt. Hood fell into a crevasse, a military helicopter flew to the rescue. The copter crashed, and the pilot had to be rescued.

Often the rescued are in trouble simply because they took foolish risks.

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"I fell down the hill. I really don't know what happened, but luckily, I got stopped by a tree before I fell off," one inebriated-looking man said on my special "You Can't Even Talk About It."

Some hike into treacherous weather with no warm clothing. Some go biking on the edge of a mountain. The Internet is crammed with examples of risky behavior.

Even mundane sports are treacherous if people are careless. Every winter people go ice fishing on Lake Erie. Some use airboats, but many go out on foot or on four-wheelers. That's risky because the wind can open cracks in the ice. This winter when that happened, people called 911, and with great expense, 21 government agencies responded.

Sheriff Bob Bratton of Ottawa County, Mich., was angry that people ignored the weather and then needed to be saved. "There's no section in the law about stupidity because they could all be arrested today for that," he said.

But fisherman Randy Hayes defended taking his four-wheeler onto the ice. "You take a chance every time you go out there," he said.

But on this day there was a strong off-shore wind, I reminded him.

"There's wind. There's cracks. It's just something you deal with."

"You're tying up emergency services," Sheriff Bratton said. "The helicopter that will be coming over from the Coast Guard? Four thousand dollars an hour."

The rescue cost more than $250,000.

The sheriff thinks -- and I agree -- that the fishermen should pay for their rescue. But Rick Ferguson, who owns a bait shop in the vicinity, told me, "We already pay that in the tax dollars that we pay."

Fisherman Joe Garverick, who was not among those who needed rescuing, agreed. "I'm not for paying if you get rescued in the woods. This is America, and I believe we all jump up. We help each other."

One rescued fishermen, Randy Hayes, said, "If you start charging people, people won't call when they truly do need help."

But that's bunk. New Hampshire charges reckless people who need help, and they still call 911 there.

Sparsely populated Grand County, Utah, which spent $5,000 to pull a jeep out of a crack in a canyon, started charging for rescues to protect its taxpayers. It has a hundred rescues a year because tourists come to participate in the extreme sports.

"I'm looking at the local taxpayer," says Sheriff Jim Nyland. "When people go out and do ridiculous things, I think they ought be held accountable."

He went after John Rushenberg, who needed rescuing while hiking a canyon -- in flip-flops. He was billed $2,000, but still has not paid.

"I don't want to pay," he told "20/20."

And get this: It wasn't Rushenberg's first time. A few years before, he and his friends had to be helped off a mountain. He laughed about it and said he hoped people watching my television special would chip in to pay his fine.

Give me a break. Why should other people chip in to pay for people who get themselves into trouble and need rescuing? They should take responsibility for the costs they impose on others.

As Herbert Spencer wisely said, "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools."

If we start by billing drunken rock climbers who need rescuing, maybe we can convince Congress and the president to stop bailing out failed banks, insurance companies and automakers.

I won't hold my breath.

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John Stossel blogs at http://blogs.abcnews.com/johnstossel/ is an award-winning news correspondent and author of Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity: Get Out the Shovel--Why Everything You Know is Wrong.
 
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Rednecks and Darwin
This has been told often, but it's still relevant.

What are a redneck's last words? "Hey y'all, watch this!" He/she presumably qualified for the Darwin awards.

How about auto insurance
Of course we do have more traffic today, but insurance makes people feel protected and they take risks they would not, unless they were just drunk to begin with.

Just an observation from my own little world, could be wrong.

It seems to be true from what I see in how many drive, not that I have always been so observant myself,....

Taxation Without Representation
Careful John, your inner Ayn Rand is showing again.

All local townships should charge for rescuing people who purposely choose to put themselves in harm's way. Instead of discouraging them from calling when they need help, perhaps it would be a deterrent from being careless and reckless.

On a national level, there's only one thing to say: 'Taxation without representation'. When will the people have enough? Probably never, unfortunately.

Risk-takers Should Pay
I agree that we should not have to subsidize risky behavior.

After all, insurance companies decide who is at fault in an accident—so the if it is decided that this person (as in the case of the idiot who went hiking in flip-flops) should have known better—they should have to pay out to the rescuers.

Also, those rescuers are not available to others who may genuinely need them because they are taking care of someone who decided to try something stupid.

Just like the idiots who called 911 when they didn't get their chicken nuggets at McDonalds—what if someone could not get through who had a real emergency?

Like Jesse Ventura said
When Jesse was running for governor of Minnesota he said, when talking about the fools who ride snowmobiles on thin ice and who otherwise get themselves in trouble, "It's nature's way of getting rid of the terminally stupid."

He is absolutely right, and it shouldn't be my responbsibility to pay for your stupidity.

talent scout...
maybe seatbelts and airbags make people feel more prtoected than insurance. Besides, insurance is to help compensate others for harm you do whether taking undue risks or not. Seatbelts and airbags only protect you (and your passengers). I think insurance underwriters are well aware of moral hazards. That is why they usually require deductibles and co-pay or offer them in return for lower premiums. That is why a history of accidents, traffic violations, and health problems may result in higher premiums.

Stupidity does not pay
While living in Wyoming and working for a company that rented snowmobiles to tourist we say a lot of this type. We actually called them "SPOREs" Stupid People On Rented Equipment. They, a lot of times, lived up to the name.

I believe CO has a $ fee added to all license purchased by people from out of state to cover any mishaps. Let them decide at purchase and they may give more thought to their further actions.

stephen

Makes sense
When you have a stroke at home and the ambulance comes to pick you up, who pays? You do (unless you're an illegal and use it to avoid having to pay the cabbie). This should be no different for morons who need half the military to dislodge them from a gorge. You pay for your own mistakes.

And of course those fisherman would agree it should be a public cost, they couldn't afford the costs of their own fun otherwise.

A little twist on the concept...
How many times have we seen some benevolent rescue of a moose or horse, that costs hundreds and sometimes thousands of dollars, while just over the next hill a hunter is shooting a moose to feed his family or a slaughter house is turning a horse into dog food.

Humans are an interesting species indeed!

My real sore spot!
My real sore spot is people who live in dangerous places, such as coasts where hurricanes often strike! Why should I pay for them to live there? That is, when a hurricane disaster strikes, they want me to pay for their rescue, housing, food, & then repairing or replacing their homes, boats, cars, clothing, etc.! I am darn tired of this! You take the risks, you pay the bills!

Cash or credit card!
A novel idea? When some of these less than smart people call 911 for rescue, ask them: cash or credit card? If they have neither, hang up saying call back when you have it!

Doctor's call?
I have first hand knowledge of a man in a small town. Diabetic stupid, lazy, and unemployed. He and his adult children too. Wait, or neglect to take his medication for the diabetes until he passes out. Call 911 for the ambulance to stabilize the fool. Refuse to go to the hospital and then do it again. Up to two times a week. Surrounding townships are struggling to keep the ambulance services paid for yet these fools persist. The ambulance service says they must respond to the 911 calls regardless to protect themselves.

What? promote personal responsibility
Good luck with that...

Litigation
That's why people do stupid things and that's why we have to pay for it.

Nanny Statists
This'll send em over the edge with much weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Stossel
"Pay for Your Own Rescue"

Why didn't you think of that during WWII?
It would have saved two of my uncles.
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