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Wednesday, December 17, 2008
John Stossel :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Scandal Is What's Legal
by John Stossel
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Righteous indignation over allegations about Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich's "pay to play" brazenness camouflages the corruption inherent in all government. After all, what does it mean to be a politician if not that you promise favors -- coerced from the taxpayers -- in return for support from key constituencies?

Ted Stevens and Randy "Duke" Cunningham behaved egregiously enough to be convicted, but their actions didn't cost taxpayers nearly as much as what their colleagues did supposedly acting in the "public interest."

As The New York Times reported, "$700 billion ... seemed to be an ocean of money. But after one of the biggest lobbying free-for-alls in memory, it suddenly looks like a dwindling pool. ... The Treasury Department is under siege by an army of hired guns. ..."

Sen. Charles Schumer has delivered for that army, consistently voting for every bailout. He also "helped raise more than $120 million for the Democrats' Senate campaign committee, drawing nearly four times as much money from Wall Street as the National Republican Senatorial Committee," said The Times.

What Schumer does is legal, but the billions he gives to failing companies comes from taxpayers. A formal quid pro quo between politicians and bailed-out companies is not necessary. But everyone knows that a beneficiary is more likely to contribute to a congressman who votes for a bailout. They are also more likely to hire that congressman as a lobbyist when he retires. It is disgusting. But it is legal.

H.L. Mencken was right: "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods."

The Public Choice economists remind us that contrary to what the civics textbooks imply, public "servants" have the same ambitions as the rest of us --wealth, career, influence, prestige. But there's a big difference between us and them. Politicians, bureaucrats and the people they "rescue" get money through force -- taxation. Don't think taxation is force? Try not paying, and see what happens.

The rest of us must achieve our goals though voluntary exchange in the marketplace. That difference -- force versus voluntary exchange -- makes all the difference in the world.

In "The Road to Serfdom", F.A. Hayek titled chapter 10 "Why the Worst Get on Top," pointing out why the "unscrupulous and uninhibited are likely to be more successful [than moral people] in a society tending toward totalitarianism. ... [T]he readiness to do bad things becomes a path to promotion and power."

We don't live in an authoritarian society, but Hayek's point still applies.

A system that rewards politicians skilled at campaigning -- which is the art of creating an illusion -- and that puts hundreds of billions of coerced taxpayer dollars at the disposal of the winners will tend to attract men and women with a comparative advantage in manipulation. We shouldn't be surprised that people like Blagojevich prosper in "public service" -- until they get caught crossing the line.

At his news conference last week, Obama said, "[T]here is a tradition of public service, where people are getting in it for the right reasons and to serve, but there's also a tradition where people view politics as a business." That difference is not as sharp as he thinks. Even someone devoted to achieving the public good is ignorant of what is truly in the interest of a group of individuals as large and diverse as the population of a state or country. Lacking that knowledge -- and with his political cronies and the most politically connected lobbies constantly whispering in his ear -- he will presume that what is good for the best -- organized interest groups -- must be good for everyone. Then he will take from all of us to bail out those special interests. This will tend to be good for the politician's career.

Blagojevich allegedly assumed someone would be willing to pay dearly to be a U.S. senator. I'm sure he was right. But if government were less important in our lives, politicians would have fewer goodies to trade. In return, we'd have more money and more freedom.

That's one more reason to limit government power.

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Thank you once again!
I love how clearly you can articulate the essence of the problem, Mr. Stossel. Thank you so much for the work you do. I truly hope that America wakes up in time to save our Constitution and move us back to the principled foundation we have strayed so far from.

Ask yourself...
Ask yourself why lobbyists don't give you money. It is because you don't control too many things. If Congress controlled less, the lobbyists would go away accordingly. The problem is not lobbyists, it is concentrated power.

So close, John!
You dance around the subject, Mr. Stossel. I love your writing and 20/20 segments, but this article wanders a bit. Let's just come out and speak the simple truth: Modern political lobbying is organized bribery. Campaign finance reform, term limits and government reduction are all avenues for attacking the problem, but we have to be brave enough to advertise, spread the word, propagate the slogan - Modern Political Lobbying IS Organized Bribery (with our money)!

Every time I
read one of John's articles I almost change my affiliation to Librtarian. Then I think of the feeling of security that our military gives me. However, I feel more and more that we might be able to meet somewhere in the middle.

There IS a solution
The "Fair Tax Bill", while not perfect, can solve a lot of the problems that we are having. How about pushing for it. 20/20 would be a good starting point. One idea that might get it started is to debunk the idea that only politicians and business leaders are greedy. Expose those of us that;
Are on SSI disability and play golf every day.
Are in Nursing Homes being paid for by Medicaid after transferring hundreds of thousands in assets to their heirs.
Are 85 years old getting MRI's every 3 months at medicare's expense.
Are Public employees (police, firemen, local gov't employees) working unneeded overtime when nearing retirement to boost retirement pay.
Aren't these greedy?? I'd bet some of your critics fit here.


Politicians are worse
than crack dealers. I'm serious. I don't want to buy the poison crack dealers are selling. The crack dealers are fine with that. They only sell to those who want their poison. If I don't buy what they're selling, they don't come to my house and bust down my door. I also don't want to buy the poison the politicians are selling. But unlike the crack dealers, the politicians don't give me a choice. If I don't pay a big chunk of my income to enable them to subsidize tobacco farms, wage war against countries that haven't attacked us, cut welfare checke to Ted Turner, prop up foreign dictators, pay for ugly art, etc., etc., they WILL send armed thugs to bust down my door, put me in a cage, maybe even kill me. All I want is to be left alone. Crack dealers do leave me alone. Politicians never will.

koolmuse
not much time here but you are neither cool nor amusing. Just boring.

Koolmoose
You are absolutely the dumbest poster on TH.

When the intern lover(bubba clinton) fired all the US attorneys, that was corrupt

STFU idiot!!!

koolmuse
You showed not the slightestunderstanding of my post. By "left alone", I mean that I don't want anybody using threats of violence to force me to do what I don't want to do, or to prevent me from doing whatever nonvoilent activities I choose to engage in. As for feeding myself, I am perfectly willing to engage in voluntary, peaceful exchange with farmers, ranchers, and fishermen, giving them what I produce in exchange for what they produce, at a rate of exchange we both agree upon. No threats, no coercion. There are others with whom I do not want to do business, and those who do not want to do business with me, so we don't.
It is NOT government that allows us to do together what no one of us can do alone; it is free enterprise and division of labor.
It is NOT government that provides gasoline for my car, or even the car itself; it is private individuals working together. Government only makes both more expensive by taxing gasoline and restricting where the oil companies can drill and explore. Roads built by non-government entities are invariably better maintained and cost less to build and maintain, as people spending their own money are less wasteful than people spending other people's money.
Calling me a "loner", and implying that I am mentally unbalanced by invoking serial killers was also an indication that you posses not even the most rudimentary understanding of my post. I love to interact, peacefully and voluntarily, with an enormous variety of other peaceful, honest people every day. That pretty much excludes politicians.



koolmuse
I'd say I successfully refuted the accusations you leveled at me.

Koolmuse--100,000 in freezer
pretty much points to guilt in my opinion, and that's how much Jefferson had in his freezer when he was arrested--one hundred grand in different frozen food containers. Don't you ever wonder why that money wasn't in the bank? Dude, get real here. If Jefferson had tried to put that much money in the bank, he'd have to answer all kinds of embarrassing questions like where he got it and why. And he knew that, too. So, I think Stossel's right on in putting his name on the short list.

I may not agree with Stossel on every single minute point he makes, but he makes more sense than a lot of people and that includes you, Kool.

I, like Doug, would love it if the politicians would leave me and my hard-earned dollars alone. That doesn't make me a mass murderer or serial killer either. I'd just like a choice in what Congress wastes my money on.

Like another poster has already said, every time I read John's work, I'm ready to turn Libertarian. I'm probably a lot closer than I think, too.


koolmuse
Gotta agree with you on Bush...after all, he IS a politician. However, you seem to be unaware that, when Clinton did the same thing, i.e., when he fired all those US Attorneys, it was because they were digging up dirt on Clinton himself, and getting close to coming up with information that could jeopardize his presidency. Clinton was just as dishonest as Bush. In my opinion, the last honest man to occupy the White House was Eisenhower, but I may be wrong. He was the last president who accomplished anything significant prior to becoming a politician.

More brilliance from Stossell
Well reasoned great piece. This is the kind of pundit who might be able to swing some opinions. God knows he is right on target. Thanks John, keep it up. This will not change until we ALL take some risks. Otherwise this nation is indeed going to be authoritarian.

koolmuse
"Laws are what make a nation"--ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! And we have 434 Congressmen (the lone exception is Ron Paul), 100 Senators, and the last 9 consecutive presidents who totally ignore the Supreme Law of the Land--the Constitution. Both presidential candidates in the recent election have a record of violating the Constitution, so it will soon be 10 in a row.

ML Bushman
Actually, there was only $90,000 of the $100,000 bribe that Jefferson was filmed accepting. Which begs the question: Does William Jefferson tithe on his bribes?

Obama-Victim of His Own "Success?"

Obama is quoted in this article,as saying about why people go into politics,

"[T]here is a tradition of public service, where people are getting in it for the right reasons and to serve, but there's also a tradition where people view politics as a business."

The author explains:

Even someone devoted to achieving the public good is ignorant of what is truly in the interest of a group of individuals as large and diverse as the population of a state or country. Lacking that knowledge -- and with his political cronies and the most politically connected lobbies constantly whispering in his ear -- he will presume that what is good for the best -- organized interest groups -- must be good for everyone. Then he will take from all of us to bail out those special interests.

______________________________________________

Is the author making the case that Obama believes what is best for Tony Rezko, Ali Ata, "Al" Chaib, Bill Ayers, Rashid Khalidi, and Jeremiah Wright, Move On.org, the 2 Palestian businessmen caught donating over $35,000, is good for US?

Yes...
The last full paragraph says it all. Thank you!!

koolmuse your love of government and
fear of self-sufficiency is probably listed in the DMV-IV, I bet you could get your insurance to pay for the therapy to help your condition. The rest of us will be going about our business of trying to overcome the government's intrusion into every aspect of our lives.
Your examples are so oversimplified your argument becomes ridiculous.

Beckie
Did you mean DSM-IV? DMV, is, of course, one of those government agencies that koolmuse loves so much, but is such an annoyance to those of us with lives to live.

Once again
I'd like to thank Coolmews for posting lots of drivel (deduced from scanning others' responses) so I can scroll past and make a rapid trip to the bottom of the thread. What a simpleton. If I had a cow that dumb, I wouldn't drink her milk. Why debate with him? It's like arguing with a two year old.

Really good, John! 5 checks.

Mafia versus government
Stossel is absolutely correct. When you think about it, the main difference between the Mafia and the government is that the Mafia charges much less for its services. Also, the Mafia kills far fewer people.

The ultimate solution to corruption in politics, as the great libertarian economist Murray Rothbard once said, is separation of state and economy. The only reason special interests buy congressmen is that congressmen have the power of life and death over the businesses they regulate. Take away that power, and congressmen would have nothing to do. And that would be ideal.

The Obama-Rezko-Nadhmi Auchi Love Affair
FROM THE AMERICAN THINKER December 17, 2008

"Obama's Iraqi Oil for Food connection"
By Andrew Walden- American Thinker- March 06, 2008

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/obamas_iraqi_oil_for _food_conn.html

Out on bail awaiting trial, dual US-Syrian citizen, Antoin ‘Tony' Rezko, was rousted out of bed by police pounding on the doors of his Chicago mansion the morning of Monday, January 28. According to the Associated Press:

"U.S. District Judge Amy J. St. Eve jailed Rezko...saying he had disobeyed her order to keep her posted on his financial status. Among other things, he failed to tell her about a $3.5 million loan from London-based Iraqi billionaire Nadhmi Auchi -- a loan that was later forgiven in exchange for shares in a prime slice of Chicago real estate. Rezko gave $700,000 of the money to his wife and used the rest to pay legal bills and funnel cash to various supporters."

Funds from Auchi's loan may have helped finance a complex series of transactions between Rezko and Democratic Presidential candidate Illinois Senator Barack Obama involving the 2005 purchase of Obama's Chicago mansion and Rezko's purchase of an adjoining landlocked parcel.

Ron Paul Supporters
Ran into a few of them during the past year and what a bunch of nutbags they were. Ron Paul is not the answer either. The people have the power to remove corrupted officials yet they rarely do. Just don't keep voting them in election after election. But all the Libs will do is keep making excuses for their party members and attacking the other side. They can never admit they were wrong or just didn't see it coming. Never. And some people just hate everybody. Get a grip. You are not as smart as you think and that "everyone is stupid and I am so smart" attitude is just ignorance on your part. Get over yourself.

Stossel writes ...
'That's one more reason to limit government power.'

I believe in limited government just like children used to dream about the tooth fairy, Peter Pan and sugar plums dancing in their heads and with the same eventual outcome. Limiting government is a good talking point but it will never happen unless a miracle happens. Everyone wants the other guys stuff limited but oh don't touch my stuff. Face it, the USA is dying and there is very little that we can do to stop it. The USA was a great hope for the world but it is being destroyed by greed and power.

And
liberals continue to believe that Obama is the only virgin in the whorehouse

Leftist conspiracy nuts
A lone leftist calling himself Koolmuse, who seems to use Townhall to satisfy some emotional attention deficit, recites the conspiracy lunacy of the left for us:

"... there's tons of evidence that... [US attorneys] were removed because they refused to prosecute criminal cases against Democratic politicians..."

Though twisted by dementia, this is partly correct; the corrupt Justice Dept under the Clinton administration prosecuted only Republicans, leaving Democrats unfettered to steal elections. The Bush administration ordered US Attorneys to investigate Democrat corruption as well. Some of them refused, or bungled their jobs -- and were removed.

True to form, the insane among the Democrats (but I repeat myself) point to the Republican attempt to correct their corruption as though it were itself corrupt. Democrats have spent the last 8 years attempting to make ordinary governance seem criminal, so they could pretend that the Bush administration was somehow as corrupt as the last Democrat criminal in the White House. And, of course, the next Democrat is already showing himself corrupt...

With investigations of voter registration fraud by ACORN active in at least 14 states, we now know without doubt that the failure to investigate Democrat election fraud was, in fact, dereliction of duty. ACORN's been doing the same things nonstop since the 1970s. But now Koolmuse is going to tell us that fraud doesn't really matter. Pay no attention to those criminals, they're not hurting anything... It's the Democrat way.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Click on my nickname and follow the links on my townhall blog. Thanks.)

ML Bushman
"Cold Cash" could not deposit that money into an American bank; any deposit or withdrawal of cash exceeding $10,000 automatically triggers a report to the Federal government. This was originally made a law in order to catch Mafia types and drug dealers. Of course no distinction is made between those that habitually do this (i.e.-never deposit checks) and those that only do this on occasion.

Firing US attorneys for Koolmouse
A good Article to read on this is http://articles.latimes.com/2007/mar/23/nation/na-talking2 3

The Clinton administration’s “fired all 93 U.S. attorneys” when Janet Reno became attorney general in March 1993.

Reagan replaced 89 of the 93 U.S. attorneys in his first two years in office. President Clinton had 89 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years, and President Bush had 88 new U.S. attorneys in his first two years.

I would wager a dollar that when Pres Elect Obama takes office they replace all US Attorneys except those who might still actively be involved in the Gov Blogobagoshytovich case very quickly and then those that were involved in the case once it wraps up.

The precedent is there and it is the right of the new Pres to mold his cabinet and appointed positions to people with his view points. It is why he was elected (althought I certainly did not vote for him). Hopefully in 4 years we have a new President with conservative views who can restore sanity.

On the other hand,,,,,

What is difference between a Lawyer and a Carp? One is a bottom feeding, scum sucking scavenger, and the other is just a fish!

Tinsldr2@yahoo.com goin fishing this weekend!


The scandal is what's legal-article by J
Wow! John stossel has such clarity, yet, after you read this article you realize its stuff you should have known all along, or maybe do unconsciously, but just have accepted the status quo of the system for so long,, you just don't question things. Like, his description of 'forced' taxation. So very true. Politicians think they can use our money to advance their own agendas, instead of ministering federal money for all our common good. Thank you John for pointing out the obvious to us!

Stossel not quite right
Actually many CEO's have their salaries determined by boards consisting mainly of people who make their money as CEO's who in return have their salary determined in the same fashion.

If Stossel thinks that the advantages he describes are limited to government and not to be found in the magical free market then he doesn't really pay much attention to how the actual market works, does he?

Thanks Mr. Stossel. Of Biblical ...
..proportions all what is happening now is (a little Yoda lingo). I am reminded of the Old Testament where, when the Judges became so corrupt (bribed), ancient Israel became a civil mess with no justice. The Israelites's solution? "We want a King like the other nation's around us." And so they got Saul, even after the people were warned by God's prophet that what would happen is centralized and bigger and bigger gubment.

A former aid of Ron Paul's....
who was fired (Erid Dondero), and pretty much hates him for it, once mentioned that his congressional office is unlike any others, because lobbyists never visited his office.

They're all corrupt?
John Stossel is smart and decent man, and he's making a valuable point when he observes that the legal stuff is also corrupt. He doesn't go quite far enough, though.

The real problem is that we, the American people, are corrupt.

An axiom of political science articulated by Edmund Burke (British Whig political philosopher, 18th century) claims that people generally have the sort of government they deserve. Is our entire government, including the legal parts, corrupt? The best place to look for the reason is in the mirror.

I managed a retail store for a short while, and quit when I realized that it was ruining my love for the human race. Ordinary folks steal. They lie. They bully. They cheat. They get in your face and lie like a rug in order to save themselves a buck and some change. It's disgusting.

The district loss prevention manager, when training us to prevent theft, used to say: "Ten percent of the people will never steal, and you don't have to worry about them. Ten percent will always try to steal no matter what you do, you have to catch them. Eighty percent of the people will steal if you let them -- so don't let them."

If you're one of the 80% who will steal if you can get away with it, or one of the 10% who steal all the time -- corruption in government is just a reflection of the corruption in your soul.

The solution is repentance. Christ can help. But blaming the Dems, or the Repubs, or the politicians, or the big corporations, or Wall St., or the oil companies, or the UN, or the world Marxists, will not help -- not if the problem is the guy in the mirror.

We will deserve better government when we're all better people.

(Unrelated to this topic, please visit my political blog, "Plumb Bob Blog: Squaring the Culture," at http://www.plumbbobblog.com. Though, why you'd want to after I called all of us a bunch of thugs, I couldn't imagine...)

Responses
Koolmuse at 4:18: Democracy truly is a "criminal illegal corrupted system of government", and our founders mandated an alternative--a constitutional republic. Two problems with an unlimited democracy are that it allows a group to force other peoples' stuff into their pockets and force everyone to walk in lockstep with their vision of America. All it takes is to steal and buy 50.01% of the votes.

Stossell: We do live in an increasingly authoritarian society. We have degenerated from a constitutional republic into a democracy and have voted for some socialism (government owned schools) and some fascism (extreme regulation of oil producers).

"...politicians would have fewer goodies to trade" if we spent government money only on activities allowed by the Constitution.

Like most libs, koolmuse talks out ...
of both sides of his arse. In one post he states:
"Our system of justice declares all innocent until proven guilty..."

Yet he makes statemenst like this about Republicans without any pre-supposition of innocence:
"When one secretly betrays the public interest for cash or other illicit gain, lies and undermines the ethics of fairness.... like Halliburton's many billion$ in no-bid contracts awarded them by Cheney... that is criminal corruption."

kookmuse attempt to paint John Stossil as a Republican journalist hack but it is the kook who parses everything in political terms. Anyone who has listened to Stossil for even a few moments, let alone the years of work he has as a journalist and a 20/20 correspondent, knows that he has strong libertarian credentials.

kook, I suggest you crawl back under your rock. You've already violated the premise that it is better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth (or type on a keyboard) and remove all doubt.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

Scandals
It sure makes me feel better now that the mainstream media has cleared Saint Obambi of all wrongdoing in the Governor Blagojevich scandal. After all, everyone should know that there could not possibly be any connection between an Illinois Democrat elected official and another Illinois Democrat elected official.

Corruption?
The blame goes on and on while everything goes back to the same, no matter the promises made. The problem is voters who don't bother in getting informed as to, who is who in the candidates group, what they stand on the issues, and they are voting according how were instructed, by the corrupted media and party groups, so they are to be blamed, since they elected unfit candidates. Why are illegal aliens illegally voting in our elections to elect our leaders? We need a clean sweep from all those that are braking our laws. Their bad habits are brought into our government. If this continue to be allowed, we will one day loose ALL our freedoms we enjoy at this time. Big price to pay for allowing all this Cancer keep growing years without rooting it out for good. We have honest & responsible people that can take their position to help our country, instead to discredit it. Why allowed all the million campaign money, so only the millionaires can be candidate or support these corrupted ones? There should be an investing limit to campaigns.





Lon Reply #7
You just don't get it---- the free market plays with private money. If shareholders are unhappy with the results of the boards or CEO's they can opt out of owning stock in a particular company. However, WHEN IT COMES TO GOVERNMENT the American citizen does not enjoy the same right. People who think like you are the uninformed masses who unfortunately vote. The day you could criticize Thomas Sowell will be a cold day in hell!

inkling
I just visited your blog. Spent waaay too much time there!! And have added it to my Favorites.

You may want to check the Comments to your Global Warming and Screeching Inversion pieces; on December 1, someone posted, uh, irrelevant comments. I hope there's a way you can delete them.

Now you need to post more blog so that I can read more of your interesting commentary and the impressive comments following it.

Welll I would like to recommend a poster
http://www.plumbbobblog.com/

The site above of Plumbob, is actually well worth your visit. I took the earlier recommendation of another commentator on this thread and went to the site. I found it excellent. I suggest that many here would enjoy taking a try at the "civic competency test" he has posted there as well. I have no knowledge or connection to this poster so caveat emptor, but I did find his content impressive.

Solution to quid pro quo
Ban all lobbyists from public property. Only constituents NOT REQUIRED TO REGISTER AS LOBBYISTS would be allowed to visit their representatives or attend/speak at hearings. All others must put their requests or presentations in writing and post them online.

Now to convince Congress-- and especially their staff-- to get the necessary legislation passed.

Har-de-har-har!

I cannot take any politician

seriously who supports the federal income tax.

Taxing productivity by people who say they support a strong economy is either insane, stupid, ignorant or crooked. None of those traits are desirable in leaders.

Also, I think we can rule out stupid. That leaves only insane, ignorant or crooked. Since not too many of our leaders are certifiably insane, it leaves only ignorant or crooked. I will leave it to the reader to decide which of the two adjectives best describe their Congressional representatives who support the income tax are!!!

Until America gets serious about the "Fair Tax", it will remain at the mercy of the corrupt.

Quote
if government were less important in our lives, politicians would have fewer goodies to trade. In return, we'd have more money and more freedom.



Amen

It's been over two days
since the Electoral College started working on the results of the election, and the members haven't announced, "Halleluia, It's the Obamessiah". Do you think they might be looking at answering the questions about Obama's citizenship before starting the vote count?

Another myth
"We" have the power to vote them out of office. No, "we" don't. I can only vote in or out of office the 3 folks that represent "me" - my Senators and my House Rep. I have no power to vote out of office crazy Reid, whom his voters seem to love. He can punish me all he wants to, as long as he brings the goodies to his folks they won't care.
That is the real problem. We can have ten, die hard conservative states - but if they are small with low Rep numbers - they will be beaten into submission. More people like hand outs than not. So, we have created a system where I must vote for the person who is going to screw the "other" guy before his rep screws me. Otherwise, I am out of luck.
This is why we need LESS government.

Koolmuse
Yes, Jefferson is just one of those perfectly normal people who happens to keep lots of cash in his freezer.

Sure, nothing suspicious there at all.

Please! I admit there are corrupt Republicans. Are you too much of a kool aid drinker to admit there are corrupt Democrats as well?

Eddie Too
There are alternatives to the Fair Tax, so one does not have to be a Fair Tax proponent to be sane.

For that matter,t eh Fair Tax is just as out of agreement with the constitution as the income tax was prior to the 16th amendment.

I personally support restoring the proper tax system, direct funding of the federal government by the states. It would actually give the states an incentive to fight federal spending, as pork isn't all that attractive when it comes out money you have to send directly to the feds.

It also means we will have 50 different tax systems and can see which work well and which work badly, rather than the single, one size fits all tax system we have now.

long held belief
This just confirms what I've said since I was a youngster. There will never be a decent man in the White House, because no decent man will do what it takes to get there. Right on, John.

john stossel
mr. stossel is, in my opinion, clinically incisive when he analyzes his subject and in few words reduces it to its elements. E.B. Hauck

Roopsag is right
Limited government would be natural lobby reform. If you do not believe him, look at the correlation between the growth in government spending and the number of lobbyists.

Here is a quote from a recent post of mine: "As an additional benefit, limiting the power and budget of the federal government provides natural lobby reform."


http://limitedgovernment.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

Now..there's a brilliant idea...........

Limit lobbyists by limiting the power and budget of the fed. guvmint....

brilliant........so simple.....why has'nt it been done?

Theft is Theft
Why people cannot wrap their heads around this fact is beyond me? When a private citizen does it, whether he's an amateur or a professional criminal, the theft is illegal. When a politician does it, it's legal. Both are wrong, but I suppose if you've got one criminal syndicate that calls itself "government" saying they work for you, I guess it's okay by a lot of people.

Well, it's not okay by me. I don't want my money stolen just to payoff people of whom I do not know nor have any inclination of paying off. I do not want my money stolen on behalf of public education. I do not want my money stolen on behalf of Social Security. I do not want my money stolen on behalf of subsidies, foriegn aid, welfare, Medicare and Universal Health care, or anything else beyond what is needed to maintain our national security and sovereignty. I don't know about you, but I'm tired of all this theft.

It's time for a tax revolt.

What About a Constitutional Amendment?
repealing the Congress' power to levy taxes? That is the only way to stop Washington D.C. from its suicidal spending path. Take away or limit their power to tax and you take away their leverage.

FairTax
It's time for a tax revolt. Amen! Adopting the FairTax would mean an immediate repeal of all corporate and individual income taxes, payroll taxes, self-employment taxes, capital gains taxes and gift taxes. In their place, Congress would enact a consumption tax that would be collected at the point of sale for a good or service. One advantage of the FairTax is immediately clear: With no need for a federal entity to police individual Americans' compliance, the excessively bureaucratic and needlessly intrusive Internal Revenue Service could be eliminated.

For too long, the American people have been asked to comply with an incomprehensible, loophole-riddled, lobbyist-friendly income tax code that makes it far too easy for innocent taxpayers to find themselves at the mercy of a punitive federal agency. Further, the income tax code has long been used by Washington policymakers as a tool for social engineering, with the costs being embedded into the costs consumers pay for goods. American citizens and the American economy have suffered as a result.

By adopting the FairTax, taxpayers finally will be able to turn the tables on Washington's big spenders. American consumers could decide for themselves just how much of their money they were willing to send to Washington, by factoring this into their decision whether or not to make a purchase. Decisions made by consumers to forego current spending likely would lead to greater saving by these individuals. Most economists will tell you that encouraging saving is a key to maintaining a strong economy.
Enacting FairTax would unleash power of U.S. economy

By: Paul Broun


Re: Scandel???
Hey, what do expect from a city that had Al Capone ruling it for almost 30 yrs and the Valentines Day Masacre take place, the entire mess smells in Denmark!! The entire lot of who is involved should end up in the slammer like Scooter Libby did!!!

In other words ...
When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things bought and sold are legislators.

Lobbist in power.
When a politician sees one lobbyist, they see money, influence, and with that, power.
When the same politician sees one American, they see only one vote!
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