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Wednesday, September 13, 2006
John Stossel :: Townhall.com Columnist
Secrets in the Senate
by John Stossel
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Their arrogance is stunning.

Sens. Ted Stevens (R-Alas.) and Robert Byrd (D-W.V.) are the acknowledged kings of pork-barrel spending. They bring billons of taxpayer dollars to their states to ensure their hold on power. But apparently, that's not enough. They also want to make certain that you and I don't see what they get away with. So secretly they tried to keep us in the dark.

Fiscal hawks in the Senate, led by Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), are sponsoring a bill to create a database that would keep track of government spending. You could search that database from your home and find out who got all that special-interest taxpayer largess.

That seems like useful information for citizens who would like to keep their eyes on their spend-happy representatives.

But what's good for the taxpayers is not necessarily good for the politicians who ladle out our money, or the feeders at the government trough who get all those contracts and grants. The power brokers would rather the people not look over their shoulders.

The bill to create the database has sponsors from both parties, including Majority Leader Bill Frist and Minority Leader Harry Reid. It has support from 100 conservative and liberal government-watchdog organizations. It was approved unanimously by the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.

The measure was headed for a vote in the full Senate when suddenly it was derailed by unidentified senators. The Senate, it turns out, has a rule that lets any member delay a bill -- without revealing his identity. It's called the "secret hold."

This mystery led to several days of speculation, but finally, Sen. Stevens came forward. The next day Sen. Byrd did, too.

Byrd has since lifted his hold, but Stevens hasn't. Byrd said he wanted time to read the bill and try to improve it. Stevens, who is a member of the committee that held hearings but didn't speak up at the time, now says he wants a cost-benefit analysis done before he makes up his mind. Sounds fishy to me. I think these guys just don't want us to see how they spend our money.

When the Democrats held power, I confronted Sen. Byrd about his "Honorable" Robert Byrd Highway-type projects in West Virginia. His answer was as arrogant as he was: "I would think that the national media could rise above the temptation of being clever, decrepitarian critics who twaddlize, just as what you're doing right here."

"Twaddlize?" I asked.

"Trivializing serious matters," he explained.

I persisted, "Is there no limit? Are you not at all embarrassed about how much you got?"

Byrd glared at me, "Are you embarrassed when you think you're working for the good of the country?!"

As for Sen. Stevens, last year, the congressional transportation bill included $450 million to build two bridges to little-populated parts of his state, Alaska. One of these "bridges to nowhere" would connect Ketchikan to a nearly uninhabited island.

When Sen. Coburn proposed that the money instead be spent to repair a bridge over Louisiana's Lake Pontchartrain that had been damaged by Hurricane Katrina, Sen. Stevens had a little tantrum. He stood on the Senate floor and said if his state's loot was cut, he'd resign and "be taken out of here on a stretcher!"

Good! Sen. Stevens, please go. I'll help carry the stretcher.

The Senate shot down Coburn's proposal 82-15. Big spenders stick together.

I'm skeptical of Sen. Stevens's demand for a cost-benefit study. Congress estimates it would cost $4 million to build the database and $2 million a year to run it -- small potatoes next to the hundreds of billions Sens. Stevens and Byrd spend on pork.

And the benefit? Can you put a dollar figure on the good that would result if the big spenders were inhibited because the people were watching them?

Maybe we wouldn't need a user-friendly database if the government weren't so big. But it is that big. So at least let's make it visible. Let's get rid of secret holds and secret spending.

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Bipartisan Disgrace
Senators Byrd and Stevens are a disgrace. Voters in West Virginia and Alaska ought to be deeply ashamed of these two.

Bipartisan? Nah, there's only one party
...and that's the Permanent Institutional Incumbent Party. The voters in Alaska and West Virginia are *proud* of their high-seniority specialists in pork. They glut on The Other White Meat, and delight in the fact that they fatten at the expense of their fellow citizens in other states.

Isn't that what government is for? Plunder, pillage, and pork?

SiliconDoc is right!
This "pork-barrel" spending issue is just a diversionary tactic to avert our attention from the really crappy stuff that disguises itself as congressional business. We need to go back to part-time legislators that have to make a living from someone other than the tax-payers. They should get about $20,000/yr because they only work about 80 days/yr. And if they don't pass a budget on time, they should not get paid at all. All spending should be open to public scrutiny. When will this happen? When pork flies!

Silicondoc
I hear what you're saying, but thr change has to start somewhere. And this is as good a start as any. If the members of Congress know they're being held accountable for the 1%, maybe the fear of being found out will cut into the 39% that you speak of. Let's give this a try and see where it leads.

earmarks/Pork
All the past talk about campaign finance reform. As far as I am concerned, earmarks/pork is just a method of using taxpayer money to buy votes. Politicians make a big deal about all the money they bring back to their districts and the voters eat it up. Unfortunately the voters don't seem to be smart enough to realize it was their money to start with.

What a crock!!!

Senators
I wonder how my two senators, Mssrs. Kennedy and Kerry, would fare should they be required to "work" gratis.

How would they eat? How would they live?

That's so funny I forgot to laugh.

FIRST THING TO DO
First thing to do is to prohibit naming any building, bridge, highway, structure, etc., after any sitting politician. Let's create a law that says we can't name anything for any elected official until 5 years after that official left elected office, or until after that official's death.

Incentives matter
1% of GDP is 33% of the budget deficit. So cutting $29B of pork (it is triple that, but to achieve baseline agreement, let's start there) is worth the effort on its face. But more:

As American business awoke from our fat and uncompetitive slumber in the late 80s, and finally took notice of our lack of competitiveness (remember Japan, Inc?) the first thing we did was take stock of where we were. We learned an important truth:

"If you want to change something, you
first have to measure it."

We then went on to...

"do the right things right, once..."

...and that has made all the difference. Tom Coburn's bill is the single most important bill that the Senate could pass in this session. It will make the sorry state of the once fine GOP a little less sorry.

But I still can't get myself up for voting for Conrad Burns (R-MT) this November!

Thanks for a fine column, John.
TimC

Silicon Doc is right . . .
the so-called pork isn't going to bankrupt the USA.

All spending is local and state/local governments spend federal money by letting contracts to local constrators who actually do the work. The local contrators pay their workers who are, of course, taxpayers (from whom the money came from in the first place).

Sen. Ted Stevens and Sen. Bobbie "Sheets" Byrd are two dispicable and sleazy men who should be digging ditches for a living. They've earned all the disrespect and contempt we can give them.

On the other hand, they've given the good people of Alaska and West Virginia their tax money back.

Misspelled "contractors"
sorry, guys.

Pork spending
Is way more than 29 billion .I define pork as any unconstitutional spending which would be about 90% of what we spend according to what the constitution authorizes ..thing like social insecurity and medicaid and medicare .. there are lots of other things .


Pork

Both Houses spend because it is not their money. They are (as a group) addicted to the money because it equals POWER. Nothing or no one will be able to stop them unless we take away their money. It is like an alcoholic, it must be cold turkey. The Dems are still crying about a "tax cut for the rich." They will raise taxes if they get the first chance. Why? For the POWER it gives them.
We must always be vigilant, and demand low taxes and demand that they live with-in their budget (just as you and I must).

Pork
From comment above.

"On the other hand, they've given the good people of Alaska and West Virginia their tax money back".

Unfortunately, they have also given their constituents some of my money, and don't live in their states!!!!

Trivial
$29 billion is just a trivial figure. Since it is only 1% of the overall budget, let's just forget about it. Oh wait, did you realize that $29 billion is more than the total state budgets of Arizona, Colorado and Utah - combined? Those states have 4.4% of the population of the United States.

The Federal Government spends way more than it should and on many things that are not allowed under the Constitution, starting with $29 billion in cuts wouldn't upset me. All "discretionary" expenditures should be clearly disclosed to the tax payers. I mean, the Fed's make the mutual fund industry give all of us very clear information so we're not misled by them. What's good for the Goose, blah, blah, blah.

The only reason to refuse to provide this information is self serving and designed to enable politicians to retain their power/office. Vote 'em out if they can't quit spending our money.

DavidMac
Anytime the pork going into a state exceeds the amount the taxpayers of that state contribute in taxes, as in the case of West Virginia and Alaska, those of us in the other 48 states have a legitimate right to b****!

Same goes for the inequities in federal gas taxes. Many states get far more in spending money for 'road projects' than their state contribution to the federal gas tax. Good argument for not having a federal gas tax. Take tax money from all states, then divvy up without regard to how much was collected where.

Taxes on your phone bill by feds so schools can be connected to the Internet. Billions collected, but not spent on schools. Our elected representatives get into our pocket again.

There are literally thousands of other examples. A formerly free people have their pockets continually picked by Washington.

PineKnot . . .
makes some good points.

Highway spending is vital. No one would suggest that Rhode Island get as much federal money as Texas, though. It's a constant battle trying to allocate the approriate amount of money to where it's needed most. Rhode Island probably pays much less than Texas in taxes, but at what point do you cut off Lil Rhodie's share? I don't know.

I do know that Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) wanted millions for a bridge that wouldn't do much for the immediate denizens of the area. They could still take the ferry. What actually happened is that the earmark was removed and the money given to Alaska anyway. That's what pisses me off.

Bipartisan?
Funny how Stossel paints this as a bipartisan problem. Those two senators are notorious pork barrel piggies, yes.


But the federal budget and discretionary spending increased 50% from 2000 to 2005. George Bush signed every increase. The Republican Congress and the Republican President are the ones spending our tax dollars like drunken sailors on shore leave.


Anyone who really wants to cut spending should stop blindly voting by party and start voting by individual results. Toss out the big spenders regardless of their party, if you want to change this fiasco.

Trivial ?
One billion MINUTES ago, Jesus lived.

U.S.Government spending at the rate of One Billion Dollars ($) every 8 hours cannot be considered trivial!

Somebody stop those guys; we need to quit talking and take action !


Obama
I like how you mention that the problem is bipartisan but don't mention the other sponsor's name on this bill (Barack Obama).

The Dirty Byrd and the Senile Stevens
"Byrd said he wanted time to read the bill and try to improve it."

Oh to see the "improvements" Byrd would make. Isn't that like letting felons "improve" our prisons?

"Stevens, who is a member of the committee that held hearings but didn't speak up at the time, now says he wants a cost-benefit analysis done before he makes up his mind."

Would Stevens even understand a cost-benefit analysis? After his comments about how the internet works, I have to wonder.

Byrd probably need time
to figure out how to install the database system somewhere in the state of West Virginia (the Robert Byrd American Taxpayer Oversight System).

By the way, does anyone recall the Grace Report?

Might be worth dusting that baby off, don't you think?

Hey Tim
I know that Conrad seems to be suffering from foot-in-mouth disease recently. He does bring some of Montan's tax dollars back to the state though.


The whole practice of directing the tax dollar to an elected officials home state is probably good in some ways and bad in others. There should certainly be no secrecy about it. The rule allowing a politician to secretly block a bill is a rule written by criminals for criminals.


I do know that Conrad Burns has generally been right on the illegal immigration issue. (I think that there was one vote he took some time ago that benefitted an employer who hired some illegals. I can't remember the details).


Right now Conrad is on the line fighting the drive for amnesty and open borders. Personally, I think that makes him a far better choice than John Tester, or any other Democrat for that matter.


Any Democrat in Montana is in a Party that is no good for America. Montana politicians may hunt and support the Second Amendment. That doesn't mean a thing. Their Party is overwhelmingly against civilian gun ownership and use. Putting a Democrat in anywhere is strenghtening the gun grabbers.


The Democrats also favor amnesty for illegal aliens. They favor illegal aliens getting to vote in American elections. They favor Social Security for aliens, even though the system is in trouble for citizens. They even try to assist illegals in getting registered illegally.


Conrad hasn't been convicted of anything, but he is crucified in the Missoulian and probably in other papers around Montana. If he doesn't win reelection then John Tester will be able to further the ever increasingly radical leftist agenda of today's Democrat Party. I sure hope that doesn't happen.

One Term and Your Gone !!
The only way to clean up this mess in congress is to enact term limits. The framers never intended to make political positions a lifetime endeavor.
We groan and moan about these unscrupulous bastards but turn around and re-elect them over and over.
If they ran for election, knowing that they were gone after one time around, maybe we would get people more concerned about the good of the nation rather than how much money, power and graft the can secure over their political career.
I say, "vote all incumbents out, no matter what party."
After two cycles we would have a more caring and responsible congress and you can bet the bank on that.

About this bill...
Stevens/Byrd cost-benefit analysis: What's in it for me?

Paulie: You're remark was hilarious.

This bill is THE single most important bill we've seen there for a long time. We The People NEED this bill.

Sure, maybe the pork-barrel is small, but you have to start somewhere, and "a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you're talking real money."

Wisconsin's a net tax payer, so I too am asking "Where's mine?"

Gunter: I'm a firm believer in government by amateurs. Get them in and out before the system corrupts them.

Hey, Skip, get a smaller brush
"The Democrats also favor amnesty for illegal aliens."

Not this one.

"They favor illegal aliens getting to vote in American elections."

Not this one.

"They favor Social Security for aliens, even though the system is in trouble for citizens."

Not this one.

"They even try to assist illegals in getting registered illegally."

Not this one.

Maybe you're talking about the (sometimes) idiots in charge of the party. Down here in the trenches, I don't know any Democrats like that.

Just a note from History:
The fine pair, Lt. Kerry now UnSenator Kerry and his pal John McCain were co-chairs of the MIA/POW comittee back in 1995 or so when the Polish Govt. worked to get into NATO, so they sent a good will thing to Pres. Clinton and the MIA/POW comittee in the U.S. Senate, it was a 12,500 name list compiled from many Russian and other sources. A poster on the "swiftboat blog" back during the truth search on Lt. Kerrys fake awards and citations and work on his rather strange Offical Naval Records (not made public) "did post this and it is a fact.."the list was never seen after it got to the committee, and now in in the U.S. Senate Security Vault under the signature of the fine UnSenators Kerry and McCain, and the list just could have Jerry Micahel Shriver's name on it,Sgt. of the Army in Vietnam, member of special forces, attached to S.O.G. and gone missing on the "bomb damage assement mission to the combined headqts of the VC/NVA in Cambodia, and last seen still fireing at the NVA etal, and the commies said they had him,,,, yet these two no good sob's locked the info up...YES LEFT BEHIND BY THE STOOGES IN WASHINGTON.........

THE U. S. SENATE IS THE CENTER OF AN EVIL CULT OF MONEY

have a nice day Lt. Kerry , we NEVER FORGET

The Lullaby of Byrdland
I wrote about the same 2 Senators last year in a piece at OpinionEditorials.com:

The Lullaby of Byrdland

Christopher Suleske

Why is it that the good people of West Virginia tolerate U.S. Senator Robert Byrd having his name on nearly everything in the state? Today I read that the Green Bank Telescope had been named for the former Exalted Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan. Forgive? Yes. Forget? How can we when, such as in 2001 when he publicly used the infamous N-word in a television appearance, he keeps bringing up reasons to remember his past? The man is a (slowly) walking advertisement for the need for term limits in Congress.

Enough West Virginians have been content enough with his procurement of federal funds for the state to tolerate his occasional lunacy. In examining the placenames named after the Senator, a commonality appears: most if not all are or were financed with public monies. There is something perverse about a sitting representative of the state having publicly financed projects named for him. In fact, the state even has a law against erecting monuments to living persons:

"Sen. Byrd has set a new standard for taxpayer-funded narcissism by convincing the West Virginia Legislature to erect a statue of himself in the state Capitol. The statue's completion violates state law prohibiting statues of government officials until they have been dead for half a century." (source: Citizens Against Government Waste)

I particularly enjoyed this comment from the same source:

"Byrd's statue is currently housed in the Capitol Rotunda, as shown in the picture, and it is said if you stand under the statue the senator's hand points directly at your pockets."

Here's a list of published placenames dedicated to Byrd (source: Wikipedia.org):

* Robert C. Byrd Academic and Technology Center at Marshall University, Huntington
* Robert C. Byrd Addition to the Lodge at Oglebay Park, Wheeling
* Robert C. Byrd Appalachian Highway System part of the Appalachian Development Highway System
* Robert C. Byrd Biotechnology Science Center at Marshall University, Huntington
* Robert C. Byrd Bridge, between Huntington and Chesapeake, Ohio
* Robert C. Byrd Cancer Research Laboratory of West Virginia University, Morgantown
* Robert C. Byrd Clinical Addition to Veteran's Hospital, Huntington
* Robert C. Byrd Community Center, Pine Grove
* Robert C. Byrd Conference Center at Davis and Elkins College, Elkins
* Robert C. Byrd Drive, from Beckley to Sophia (Byrd's hometown)
* Robert C. Byrd Expressway, U.S. Highway 22, near Weirton
* Robert C. Byrd Federal Building & Courthouse, Beckley
* Robert C. Byrd Federal Building & Courthouse, Charleston
* Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope, Green Bank
* Robert C. Byrd Hardwood Technologies Center, Princeton
* Robert C. Byrd Health and Wellness Center of Bethany College, Bethany
* Robert C. Byrd Health Sciences Center of West Virginia University, Morgantown
* Robert C. Byrd High School, Clarksburg
* Robert C. Byrd Hilltop Office Complex, Rocket Center
* (For Byrd's wife) Erma Ora Byrd Conference & Learning Center
* Robert C. Byrd Industrial Park, Moorefield
* Robert C. Byrd Institute for Advanced Flexible Manufacturing; Huntington, Charleston, Bridgeport & Rocket Center
* Robert C. Byrd Library & Robert C. Byrd Learning Resource Center at Mountain State University, Beckley
* Robert C. Byrd Locks & Dam, Gallipolis Ferry
* Robert C. Byrd Metals Fabrication Center, Rocket Center
* Robert C. Byrd National Aerospace Education Center, Bridgeport
* Robert C. Byrd National Technology Transfer Center at Wheeling Jesuit University, Wheeling
* Robert C. Byrd Rural Health Center at Marshall University, Huntington
* Robert C. Byrd Science and Technology Center at Shepherd University, Shepherdstown
* Robert C. Byrd Technology Center at Alderson-Broaddus College, Philippi
* Robert C. Byrd United Technical Center
* Robert C. Byrd Visitor Center at Harpers Ferry National Historical Park, Harpers Ferry
* (For Byrd's wife) Erma Ora Byrd Center for Educational Technologies at Wheeling Jesuit University, Wheeling

One wonders if we will not see, after a respectable period following the good Senator's departure from this Earth, a rush to remove some, many, or most of these placenames. Or, perhaps once the United States economy collapses in upon itself and the overarching cause is eventually properly attributed to gross overspending by the scions of the federal government, a fate similar to the myriad statues of Lenin will befall those of Byrd. Perhaps we will one day even see the good Senator's statue in Freedom Park aside Lenin's overturned torso.

Lest I be accused of partisanship, let me state that pork and narcissism is hardly limited to the political left. Byrd is only the most reprobate example. Senator Ted Stevens has made Alaska (controlled by Republicans) the state with by far the most pork per capita. Check out the comments of Alaska Rep. Don Young - Republican - concerning a "bridge to nowhere" named for him:

"Rep. Young had a much more curt response when asked by a Fairbanks Daily News-Miner reporter about redirecting the combined $450 million for the Gravina Island and Knik Arm (renamed Don Young’s Way) bridges to hurricane victims: 'They can kiss my ear.' He then called such a request the 'dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.'" (source: CAGW)

With all due respect (that would be less and less daily) Congressman, the dumbest thing I've ever heard is your statement and rash euphemism. I for one will be kissing no part of your person.

Can such brazen examples of pork and narcissism be eliminated within the status quo? Or will it take measures such as term limits and a successful third party presence in Washington to sound a different tune than the lullaby of Byrdland?

Controlling Spending
I also believe that terms limits are key.

Two other changes would be helpful: 1: No pensions for elected members of congress and 2: Limitations on staff size and expenses.

Congress pensions should be limited to social security. This would certainly incent people to serve their country and then go home to earn a living like the rest of us.

Jay_in_milwaukee
You are right. I was talking about the leaders of the democrat Party. I apologize to you if that shoe doesn't fit.


I still see a problem voting a Democrat into office. I base that on my belief that the leaders of the Party craft the policies of the Party. If I am wrong in thinking that a vote for a Democrat is a vote for the policies of the leftists who run the Party, please let me know how I am mistaken.


I looked at what happened to Joe Lieberman, and interpreted it as a pretty clear picture of where the Democrat Party is today. Don't get me wrong. I didn't shed any tears over what was done to Joe, because he pointed out that he is a liberal Democrat, and I believe him. Frankly I viewed it as a good look at how radicalized the Party is.


You may not believe this, but I sympathize with Democrats who are not like today's Party leadership and the Howard Dean people. I used to be a liberal Democrat. It makes me sick to realize that the Party has been taken over by the same kind of people who defended Stalin, Chairman Mao and the other totalitarian Marxists who have butchered so many millions of people.


It would be great if Democrats who do not approve of the things I mentioned could come up with a way to counter what the extremists who control the Party are doing. I wish you well.

Skip gets it . . .
right. I don't feel bad that Joe Lieberman was kicked in the teeth by his own party; Joe's a liberal and doesn't support Republicans.

The Democratic Party has been co-opted by a bunch of socialists. They have been working at this for decades.

The socialists realized in the 1950's that they couldn't make a dent in the two-party (Republican/Democrat) system, so they needed to control one of them. Obviously, they couldn't touch the Republicans, but the Democrats were slightly closer to socialist ideology.

This new party should be named the Socialist-Democrat Party.

Drunken sailors
It was Reagan who mentioned drunken sailors in his acceptance speech in 1984:

The President: ...

They call their policy the new realism, but their new realism is just the old liberalism. They will place higher and higher taxes on small businesses, on family farms, and on other working families so that government may once again grow at the people's expense. You know, we could say they spend money like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors -- [laughter] -- --

Audience: 4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years!

The President: All right. I agree.

Audience: 4 more years! 4 more years! 4 more years!

The President: I was going to say, it would be unfair, because the sailors are spending their own money. [Laughter]

Pork and the eventual cost thereof
May I contribute that there is an old Wall Street saying that seems to forecast the future of those who deal in Pork Project. "Bears make money, Bulls make money, but Pigs, well they get stuck!"

I can see two things happening in the future to remedy the abuses in public spending. It has to stop and those who are spending it like there was no tomorrow, will eventually be stopped. One way is term limits and that is the method that I personally prefer. Then there is another way which I do not endorse, but seems to be gradually creeping up on us. Some one will get enough of the abuses and will assassinate one or more of the Senators who have caused such expenses and who have such vanity and inconsideration about the way wasteful spending is driving our nation deep into possibly a situation which from which it cannot extract itself. Hipanic countries used to employ that method to rid themselves of those who did not care how much they spent as their countrymen suffered. You know your history and the French Revolution was only another of the cases where a large majority of the wasteful few were punished with a more severe punishment than imprisonment. Shall we all work toward term limits before someone starts working to solve the problem starting from the other end?

NASA
Talk about governmental waste, in my opinion the biggest wastrel of billions of taxpayer dollars is still the ubiquitous NASA program. That was until the war on terrorism finally took priority. Each time NASA launches another space vehicle the cost exceeds a billion dollars and the 2007 budget, at this time, is a projected 16.6 billions and we know this figure is prone to unpredictable cost overruns. True, it costs far more money to send a manned vehicle into space than to build a bridge spanning frigid Alaskan waters to a virtually uninhabited inland. Each time NASA has a successful launch, more than a billion dollars is spent and goes up in rocket propellant and billowing smoke clouds. The International Space Station project would be a financial farce if the cost had not risen into many billions and there is no foreseeable schedule for its completion. However, the NASA program could reduce its size by half and still be able to perform the same function and continue to furnish employment for thousands of ancillary businesses and their employees. What has this statement have to do with pork barrel projects? It is almost unbelievable that our Princes of Pork allowed all that money to escape their claws and be wasted on our future, instead of installing the Robert C. Byrd International Space Station to which future generations of world citizens train their telescopes on yet another wonder hovering protectively over Byrdland. A glittering spectacle to feed Senator Robert C. Byrd’s gigantic ego and to crown all his other pork boondoggles!
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