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Friday, October 31, 2008
John Sigler :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Gun-Restriction Policy Playbook
by John Sigler
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“The problem that progressives have on the gun issue has far less to do with the typical policies they espouse than the rhetoric they employ.” - The Third Way

“It’s critical that progressives recognize that only an aggressive outreach strategy to gun owners will ensure that your opponent’s message about your gun record does not define your candidacy.” - The Third Way

Those two instructions to so-called “progressive” political candidates explain Barack Obama’s camouflage of lies and deceptions that hide his consistent history as an aggressive proponent of virtually every aspect of gun control -- from gun-owner licensing and universal firearms registration; to criminalizing private ownership of whole generic classes of now-lawful firearms; to what I call denial of civil liberty at local option.

The bait-and-switch gimmick of employing rhetorical tricks to hide very real gun control agendas, and to create a fraudulent history to assure that “your gun record does not define your candidacy” are the central lessons offered in a political/propaganda playbook or script proffered by something called the Third Way.

Titled, “Taking back the Second Amendment,” the script is built around a central public opinion finding:  “Voters overwhelmingly support the Second Amendment and believe that it confers an individual’s right to own firearms” – a finding confirmed long ago by NRA’s own polling of American public opinion.

The Third Way’s propaganda manual is co-authored by Jim Kessler – who as then-U.S. Rep. Chuck Schumer’s policy director husbanded legislation that became the 1994 Clinton gun ban.  This political playbook is a stark study in duplicity and is word-for-word the blueprint for both Barack Obama’s stunningly empty embrace of the Second Amendment, and of the media’s total participation in this intellectually dishonest campaign of deception and obfuscation.

“Don’t let your opponent define you by your record.”

In this case, Barack Obama’s opponent is the National Rifle Association and the millions of individual citizens we represent.

Indeed, we have defined Obama’s record with a gold-standard analysis of his words and deeds.  He has earned his “F” rating, just as he’s earned the endorsement of the Brady Campaign (formerly Handgun Control Inc.) which universally supports registration and licensing as precursors for outright gun bans.

Yet Obama makes such statements as, “I take a back seat to no one in support of Second Amendment rights, but I also support… continuing the ban on assault weapons…  Our gun rights come with the responsibility to keep them out of the hands of criminals, terrorists and children.”

My mistake -  that’s a direct line from Kessler’s script to be memorized by poseur anti-gun candidates.

Here is a real Obama quote from an appearance in South Dakota as reported by the Boston Globe: “As President, I will uphold the constitutional rights of law-abiding gun-owners, hunters, and sportsmen….  We can work together to enact common-sense laws … so that guns do not fall into the hands of terrorists or criminals.”

And here is what appears on Obama’s campaign website:

“Obama and Biden also favor commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals…” Even Kessler’s former boss, U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer, is now talking the Third Way talk, while still walking the gun-ban walk. But while Kessler was Policy Director and gun control point-man to the then-New York Congressman, Schumer testified before an April 5, 1995 Judiciary Committee hearing on the meaning of the Second Amendment.

Schumer sputtered:  “There is no constitutional question here… If anyone tried to sell the baloney we’ll hear today, they would be arrested for consumer fraud.  The NRA’s Second Amendment is an empty cereal box in the marketplace of ideas…”

Further, Schumer said the belief that the Second Amendment was an individual right “is poisoning our political dialogue… The sickening fruit of this poisonous lie are obvious in our society…. Like flat earth fanatics, Second Amendment fanatics just don’t get it… It does not guarantee the mythical individual right to bear arms…”

 That extraordinary rant notwithstanding, Schumer said in a May 8, 2002 press release:  “The broad principle that there is an individual right to bear arms is shared by many Americans, including myself.”

Nothing Chuck Schumer espoused in 1995 has changed.  I suspect nothing in his heart-of-hearts has changed either… just the rhetoric he employs. It is the same with Barack Obama, who stands with Schumer in the forefront of the most radical supporters of oppressive gun controls.

Following the Third Way dictate about not permitting any one but himself to define his record – Obama falsely claims to be “moderate” on gun control saying he has never supported a ban on handguns.

For starters, as a member of the deep pockets Joyce Foundation board of directors from 1998 through 2001, Obama approved over $30-million in grants to fund anti-gun projects – including massive funding of the Violence Policy Center (VPC) whose singular goal is to rid America of private ownership of handguns. Obama has repeatedly voiced support for local handgun bans like Chicago’s oppressive law.

In addition, there is a long list of radical gun control strictures that Obama sloughs off now calling them “common sense gun safety.”

Obama…

-  Voted to allow reckless lawsuits designed to bankrupt the firearms industry;

-Voted for legislation that would have given government bureaucrats free rein to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting;

- Would re-impose the failed and discredited Clinton Gun Ban;

-  Supports a proposal to ban gun stores within 5 miles of a school or park, which would eliminate almost every gun store in America;

-  Favors a ban on high capacity magazines;

-  Favors gun-owner licensing and gun registration; mandatory micro-stamping; mandatory waiting periods; one-gun-a-month sales restrictions; and a ban on inexpensive handguns;

- And wants to repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which prohibits information on gun traces collected by the BATFE from being used in reckless lawsuits against firearm dealers and manufacturers.

There is virtually nothing in the gun control bag of tricks that Obama has not at one time or another supported. And what anti-gun measures he has not sponsored, championed or supported, his running mate, Joe Biden has. Yet, over and over he follows the Third Way script with his hollow promise about his Second Amendment.

The huge majority of Americans who believe in the Second Amendment as their personal individual right need to understand that if Obama’s wish list of “gun control” were to become law, there would be virtually nothing left of the right to keep and bear arms – especially the implicit and inherent right to self-defense.

Shortly after the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear the D.C. gun ban case (District of Columbia v Heller), Sen. Obama and his running mate, Delaware U.S. Sen. Joe Biden (NRA-“F”) were asked to join with 55 other Senators of both parties on a friend of the court brief upholding the Second Amendment as an individual right.  They both refused, proving yet another example of “progressive policy” versus the “rhetoric they employ.”

As the Heller case was being weighed by the Federal courts, Obama’s campaign expressed his strong contention about the District of Columbia’s oppressive gun ban declaring that Obama “… believes that we can recognize and respect the rights of law-abiding gun owners and the right of local communities to enact common sense laws… Obama believes the D.C. handgun law is constitutional.” (Emphasis added)

This description of Obama’s view of the D.C. law was expressed in the November 20, 2007 edition of the Chicago Tribune.  For seven months Obama never once repudiated that statement of support for D.C.’s ban.  Had it been a misstatement by his campaign as he now claims, he had ample opportunity to disavow it – but he did not.

  In fact, in a February 11, 2008 interview on Washington’s WJLA Obama was asked about his support for the D.C. gun ban, answering, “I teach constitutional law, and what I said was that I believe in the Second Amendment as being an individual right and I have said that consistently.  I also think that individual right is constrained by the right of the community to maintain issues of public safety.”  (Emphasis added)

When the interviewer said, “But you support the D.C. handgun ban and you said that it’s constitutional”.  Obama nodded gravely in the affirmative and said, “Right, right.”

During the April 16, 2008 Philadelphia Democratic debate Obama said “As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right…”

Over and over Obama puts forth this notion of a civil right – the liberty of individual Americans – being trumped by state and local government.

 Civil rights at local option? Isn’t that what the entire civil rights movement of the 1950’s and 60’s was about -- ending the notion that a state or locality could trump an individual citizen’s civil rights -- like the right to vote, or the right to be a full participant in public education, or the right not to be denied access to public accommodations? Civil rights at local option; isn’t that why Rosa Parks so courageously refused to ride in the back of the Birmingham bus?

Where 50 years ago politicians stood in the schoolhouse door or blocked admission to state universities based on race, Obama would reserve the power of today’s equally oppressive local politicians – like his own Chicago boss, Mayor Richard Daley – to stand in the doorway of homes and businesses of law-abiding citizens who wish to own handguns for self defense.

Then on the day of the Supreme Court’s landmark Heller decision, June 26, 2008, Obama said that the earlier statements in support of the District’s now unconstitutional ban were “inartful,” and suddenly claimed that the decision striking down the D.C. ban was in line with his vision all along.

Policies versus rhetoric -- Obama style?

Self-defense in the home with handguns was indeed the essential core of the U.S. Supreme Court’s remarkably clear decision in District of Columbia v Heller, declaring the District of Columbia’s firearms ban an unconstitutional breach of the Second Amendment as an individual right. In a 5 to 4 split decision, the high court ruled that the District of Columbia’s ban on handguns and on all operable registered long guns in the home violated the letter of the Second Amendment.  Of equal importance was the Court’s recognition of armed self-defense by ordinary citizens as an essential purpose of the Second amendment - the very spirit of the right to keep and bear arms.

In writing for the Court’s majority, Associate Justice Antonin Scalia declared:

“The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.” (Emphasis added)

“In sum, we hold that the District’s ban on handgun possession in the home violates the Second Amendment, as does its prohibition against rendering any lawful firearm in the home operable for the purpose of immediate self-defense.”

Finally, Justice Scalia emphatically pointed to the utility of handguns for that essential exercise of the Second Amendment:

“…the American people have considered the handgun to be the quintessential self-defense weapon… and a complete prohibition of their use is invalid…” And that brings us to key points in Barack Obama’s consistently ugly record on that core protection of the Second amendment – armed self defense.

In defining Barack Obama on self-defense, we must examine the late December 2003 story of a courageous Illinois citizen -- a victim of both a potentially deadly criminal and of an oppressive local gun ban law supported by Barack Obama. Obama’s denial of a citizen’s right to armed self-protection begins with a nightmare for a Wilmette, Illinois homeowner, Hale DeMar.

While he and his children slept upstairs, Mr. DeMar woke in the dead of night to discover that his home had been invaded by a thief who took household items and keys, which he used to steal the homeowner’s automobile.  Police did virtually nothing except take a report.

As Mr. DeMar recounted to the Chicago Sun Times, “The police informed me that this was not an uncommon event in east Wilmette and offered their condolences.”

Within 24 hours of the initial crime, the burglar returned in Mr. DeMar’s stolen SUV and again entered DeMar’s home, this time using stolen keys.  Because of the weak response of police the previous night, Mr. DeMar was prepared for the worst with a handgun that he had legally purchased and kept locked in a proper safe.  Legal in most other parts of the state, Mr. DeMar’s gun was illegal to possess within the city under Wilmette’s gun ban ordinance.

Confronted by the criminal and fearing for his children, he shot the burglar who fled in DeMar’s stolen vehicle.

As it turned out, the wounded home-invader had a long rap sheet.  This guy was a dangerous career criminal.

Cook County prosecutors found Mr. DeMars’ use of his banned handgun to be justified, but Wilmette trustees pressed to prosecute him for violating the town gun ban ordinance – claiming that Mr. DeMar’s simple possession of a handgun in his home “is endangering innocent civilians…” Outrage grew exponentially among ordinary Illinois citizens, ultimately resulting in enactment of legislation making self-defense or defense of others in a home or business an affirmative defense against prosecution for possession of a banned defensive firearm in such places as Wilmette, Morton Grove and Chicago. 

In spite of Obama’s vote, the legislation passed the senate by a 38 to 20 vote.  The House margin was 86 to 25.  And he voted against armed self-defense in the home again when the Illinois Senate overrode the governor’s veto.

Like its sister city of Morton Grove, Wilmette withdrew its handgun ban soon after the Heller decision came down but Obama’s home town of Chicago remains defiant.  Chicago’s handgun ban is literally a carbon copy of D.C.’s now-illegal ban.

Even after the Heller decision, Obama still fully supports the handgun ban in his home city, Chicago.  It is a law that Mayor Richard Daley is defiantly defending in spite of the Supreme Court’s D.C. decision.  Daley, among Obama’s most powerful and influential supporters and political mentors, recently shouted at an anti-gun rally:

NO GUNS IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA!”

Remarkably, where Obama believes a right can be infringed by local politicians, he also believes the inverse - that the Federal government can trump state and local laws where it serves his “progressive policy” end-game.

Once again, the issue is armed self-defense – in this case, right to carry. Just as Obama’s record clearly shows he considers laws criminalizing citizens self-defense use of firearms in the home as “common sense gun laws,” he is unalterably opposed to the concept of right to carry for ordinary law-abiding Americans – a right recognized by 38 states after hard fought legislative battles.

On April 4, 2001, Obama led a floor fight in the Illinois Senate defeating legislation that would have provided limited conceal-carry rights to persons whom a state court had determined were in imminent danger of death or bodily harm and were shielded by that court’s protective order. During the floor debate, the bill’s prime sponsor, Illinois Senator Edward Petka, repeatedly cited the Second Amendment describing his legislation as “a modest proposal which simply permits a person, who would usually be a woman, to exercise a constitutional right to defend themselves…”  Obama countered by labeling the legislation “a potential Trojan horse through which we introduce the notion that conceal carry is appropriate to our state.”

The following day, Obama issued a press statement in which he cut directly to the question of the right to self defense:

“…authorizing potential victims to carry firearms would potentially lead to a more dangerous rather than less dangerous situation for the very people we want to protect.  It was a bad idea and I’m glad it failed.”   (Emphasis added)

Headlined, “OBAMA HELPS DEFEAT CONCEALED-CARRY LEGISLATION,” Obama’s statement complained:

“Although this bill supposedly only affected people who receive an order of protection, it would have opened the door to the adoption of laws permitting all persons to carry concealed firearms on the street or in their cars.

“Concealed-carry laws would only increase the problem of hand-gun violence and ultimately make the streets less safe everywhere.”

Obama’s extreme opposition to law-abiding armed citizens in Illinois was expanded to cover all Americans as expressed in a February 20, 2004 Chicago Tribune story:

“He (Obama) backed federal legislation that would ban citizens from carrying weapons, except for law enforcement.”

The article directly quoted Obama, “National legislation will prevent other states’ flawed concealed-weapons laws from threatening the safety of Illinois residents.” (Emphasis added)

Most recently, in an April 2, 2008 Pittsburgh Tribune-Review article Obama said, "I am not in favor of concealed weapons. ... I think that creates a potential atmosphere where more innocent people could (get shot during) altercations."

Again, in a Chicago Sun Times July 12, 2007 story headlined, “From Promise to Power,” Obama said, “I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry.”

All of this gets us back to Jim Kessler’s “Taking Back the Second Amendment,” and the notion that rhetoric is a cover for real policy.

The words of Chuck Schumer’s 1995 rant on the Second Amendment equally apply to Obama’s 2008 reinvention of himself on the right to keep and bear arms:

“If anyone tried to sell the baloney we’ll hear today, they would be arrested for consumer fraud.”

I agree. Anyone buying Obama’s baloney on this issue simply isn’t reading the fine print.

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John Sigler is the President of the National Rifle Association of America and has served on the NRA Board of Directors since 1996.
 
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Regulation is the answer in
gun control and everything according to Obama and his leftist illuminati ideals. No one is responsible enough to make their own decisions; we need Obama and the government to make them for us.

What Will Be Done
Our consitution clearly established our individual right to bear arms. The founders of that document were all proponents of guns. It's all over their writings, every one of them.

The D.C. vs Heller decision clearly decided the issue.

But so what?

So what if the Left outlaws guns and begins their confiscation? What really will white middle class gun owners do? Oh, they'll fight back, they'll shoot it out with law enforcement, they'll stand their ground. Molon Labe?

Are you serious?

Kill the wolf and the sheep will scatter. Let one 2nd amendment holdout be attacked by the BATF and FBI on national TV and let all Americans see his house ablaze, and the rest of the NRA members will simply limp home and give up. The loudest in any group are the first to ally themselves with the enemy when the shooting starts.

No one's about to sacrifice his comfortable life, his 4X4, boat, wide screen TV and a heated home to watch "the big game" for any stupid consitutional rights. That's ridiculous.

Conservatives can be counted on to do what they always do when the Left extorts their money, takes their jobs and gives them to civils rights victims, and otherwise pushes them around. They'll fold like used condoms.

The guns are gone. Period.

Thanks to Obama!
Gun sales are way up, especially the high capacity types. I got a real nice deal on a AR-15.

I don't doubt
that they will try to take away guns, but the first step will be registration. Hasn't Canada spent billions on this and their gun owners just didn't register? But then there is Australia where they successfully disarmed the law-abiding leading to a massive increase in violent crime including home invasions.

I'm not sure what happens here, but wouldn't Montana leave the Union as they joined with the provision of individual gun ownership? Plus what happens in Alaska and Texas?

I will say I think they will make guns and ammunition harder and more expensive to get - so if you want them start buying now.

Where are you gun people?
Doesn't the NRA have 4-5 million people?

Catholics are 75,000,000.

Evangelicals are 50,000,000.

There's only 300,000,000 in the entire country and that's a third of them above. The Left does not have 200,000,000 in their pocket.

So, get out the vote with your friends,
neighbors, coworkers, old classmates and anyone else you can think of.

Vote like a Dem., early and often.

Drive people on Nov. 4.

Vote McCain/Palin and avoid having to see tv footage of O cowering behind the Sec. Service when Iran attacks Israel and she drops a dozen bombs across the ME.

Down here in God's country...
Texas has its own power grid and is capable of independence from the entire rest of the nation in virtually any way you can think of: energy, food, water... ...and GUNS. LOTS of guns.

There would be hell to pay down here if Obamessiah tried to take all of our guns - or even a tiny part of our guns.

Long live the Republic of Texas.

Scanning through the
internet, I see news articles from all over the USA that report gun sales have increased greatly in recent days.

Some of the articles claim it is because Obama will take guns away if elected, and others claim to fear riots if Obama fails in his election bid.

Regardless, there are lots and lots of guns in this country that no one will ever find. I've seem closets and gun racks filled with guns from when this country was founded -- muzzle loaders, brown bess, Krags, Springfields, Japanese and German guns, you name it. I suspect it is the same in most fly-over states.

I wonder which side the military and various government organizations would take in this country if push came to shove. No one knows.

No single first step.
The gun grabbers attack from all angles, banning this sort of gun because ___, banning another sort because ____, banning ammo, banning hunting, banning shooting ranges, banning anything they can.

How To Do It
Taking American guns would not be difficult. Starting January, 2009 America will be ruled totally by socialists. The GOP has been nutted. It has long been inept, perverted and cowardly. Now it is irrelevant.

First, the assault weapons ban will be reimposed, this time with more teeth. All military semi autoloaders will be banned as will magazines exceeding 5 rounds. This will be done to save the kids. Who doesn't want to save our kids.

Next to be banned will be military caliber ammunition. This will further save the kids and make us safer.

Next will be handguns. More of our kids will be safe when handguns are banned.

High taxes and tariffs will be imposed on ammunition. Perhaps we'll be required to sign forms with copies of our drivers licenses attached to invoices, copies forwarded to the BATF. More of our kids will then be safer.

All of this can easily be done. After each step gun supporters will protest. They'll call talk radio and perhaps write their representatives and thus be placed on terrorists watch lists. Once this gets out, they'll shut their mouths for the next steps in the process.

This may take some time, perhaps a few years, but it can easily be done.


Obama: Constitution Killer
Obama complaining about our Constitution:
"...the Constitution is a document of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."

For most people, including those listening to that broadcast, the word NEGATIVE is synonymous with BAD. Obama knows this. If Obama knows anything, he knows how to choose words carefully. Obama is a constitutional scholar, and if he wanted to make the Constitution and its "negative liberties" sound like the best thing since chicken noodle soup he would have chosen different words.

For some insight, take a glance (online) at the book "Negative Liberties" by Cyrus R. K. Patell. This book, perhaps coincidentally, was released three months before Obama made his comments. Do you think Patell admires the negative liberties of the U.S. Constitution? Do Patell and Obama have similar viewpoints? Wouldn't it be nice if someone had the courage to ask Obama about this and insist on a straight answer? Wouldn't it be nice if more voters actually cared?
Everyone please study this issue more, and share your knowledge with anyone who will listen.
http://rightklik.blogspot.com/

Obama must respect the right to live.

First we must get Obama to respect the right live before we can expect him to respect the right to protect that life.

In Response to Many of the Comments
I will not turn in any of my guns. I will not register any of my guns.

I will not be a "closet" criminal and hide my guns.

If any laws are passed (that "Cicero Dallas" in Utah or "JD's Handsome Son" of Ohio mentioned), I will take this action by the Federal Government to be the same as the action taken by the British at Lexington and Concord. And I will openly revolt.

Second Amendment TIME!
Better buy a gun now so if Obama IS elected he'll have to TAKE it away...

If you don't own one then he doesn't have to do anything but pat you on the head and say, "good boy".

If McCain gets elected then you ready to defend yourself against the mad rioting masses of A**E* that will prowl the strrets looking for revenge.

They will NEVER believe that DUMB-BAMA lost this election becasue he is a SOCIALIST-PIG...

Time to buy a gun before Obama tacks an 800% tax on them and then gives your gun to some ACORN thug to collect the "SPREAD the WEALTH AROUND" money from you and JOE THE PLUMBER!

what to do?

I'm a law-abiding citizen, and of course I will never break the law. I just worry about all the unregistered guns being traded by private parties via the 'gun show loophole' in another state where one would not be recognized. If one were so inclined, a day trip and some cash could yield anything from a .357 revolver to an FN-FAL. Or a nice shootable 1911 or AR. How much untraceable ammo is out there? .308 / .223 / 9mm / .45 ACP reloading gear and components? Hmm. Thought-provoking.
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Hussein II is really Hitler II
To call B Hussein O a socialist is too kind and gentle. The beginning is to spread the wealth by creating a guilt social climate.(class warfare.

The second step for B Hussein is Marxism. To acheive this step the CONSTITUTION must be change by appointment of radical judges that will make amend the law to steal from the rich and redistribute the wealth.

The third step for B Husseing is Communism. This is when step one and two are completed and Joe the Plumber gets in the way and his denial of the NEW SOCIETY is extreme and Joe has to be exterminated.

Joe in Or
#1, There is NO federal requirement for firearm registration.
#2, The "Gun Show loophole" is a leftist term which does not exist in any meaningful way. If, at a Gun Show, you buy a gun from a dealer, you must go through a background check just as you would at the dealers store. If you buy a gun from another patron at the show, it is considered a private transaction and not subject to BI checks, just as if you bought it from him at his home. Now then, what is your concern?


OBAMA AN ANTI-GUN SOCIALIST
LIKE ALL GOOD LITTLE SOCIALISTS, OBAMA BELIEVES IN THE POWER OF THE CENTRALIZED STATE, ALL POWER MUST BE MONOPOLIZED BY THE STATE AND THAT INCLUDES THE RIGHT TO OWN AND USE FIREARMS .

THESE "UTOPIAN" CONCEPTS ARE REALLY "MARXIST" AND THEY ARE NOT NEW.
UNKNOWN TO MANY PRO-GUN CITIZENS, THE 2ND AMENDMENT DID NOT COME FROM ENGLAND IT CAME FROM THE LITTLE FREE STATE OF SWITZERLAND, THERE SINCE THE MIDDLE AGES THE "FREE" CITIZENS OF THE CANTONS HAD THROWN OFF FOREIGN IMPERIAL RULERS AND CREATED ONE OF THE FEW REPUBLICS IN EUROPE FREE FROM THE CONTROL OF KINGS AND EMPERORS.
THE MARXISTS WHO WERE PART OF THE AGITATOR CLASS IN EUROPE WHICH WERE ALWAYS FIGHTING TO SUBVERT THE CHURCH THE KINGS AND THE NOBILITY ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE SAME BANS THE OLD ORDER HAD ON CITIZEN WEAPONRY.
THE REASON IS A SIMPLE ONE , AS VIOLENT REVOLUTIONARIES THEY HAD NO INTENTION OF MAKING IT EASY FOR OTHERS TO FOMENT REVOLUTIONS AGAINST THEM.

You Cannot Trust Barack Obama
Barack Obama was mentored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis, Communist writer and poet (1905-1987).

Frank Marshall Davis was identified unequivocally as a CPUSA member in a 1951 report of the Commission on Subversive Activities.

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Barack Obama carefully chose William 'Bill' Ayers who said, "Kill all the rich people. ... Bring the revolution home. Kill your parents."

In the 1960s, Bernardine Dohrn and her husband Bill Ayers were leaders of the "Weatherman" faction, which in 1969 went underground to become America's first terrorist cult.

Barack Obama launched his political career in the home of Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn.

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Alice Palmer met Barack Obama during meetings at the home of Bill Ayers and hand picked Obama to fill her newly vacated 'State Senate Seat'.

Alice Palmer served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group.

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Michael Klonsky was chosen by Barack Obama as a blogger on the 'Obama official Website'. Klonsky a former leader of 'SDS' - Students for a Democratic Society and a leader of the 'New Communist Party'.

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Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA), and has been a key figure in the party's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s. He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

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Jeremiah Wright was carefully chosen by Barack Obama to 'Mentor' him and be his spiritual guide.

Mentor Wright became famous for screaming 'God Damn America' from the pulpit at TUCC.

http://hisfacts.blogtownhall.com/2008/10/21/obamas_radical_ and_communist_alliances.thtml

No Debate
OBAMA LIES ABOUT EVERYTHING!!

Takes campaign money from illegal sources

Has ACORN coercing people to register.

Cares very little about individual rights and nothing about womens rights.

He is SOCIALIST all the way and should be stopped.

Nightowl

Off course Obama is lying. Liberals can't get elected if they tell the truth. This is why they reley on newer voters who lack the experience to know liberal programs fail. They reley on immigrants who may not understand the blessing our founding fathers attempted to bestow upon us.

Survey after survey shows the average liberal voter has no idea about the complex issues we face today. They just know the basics. Help poor = good. Help old people = good. Help senior citizens = good. More education = good.

Their understanding of the issues if just at the basic entry level. Liberal Democrats need them, expliot them to get elected.

All it would take
is for his stacked SC to re-visit Heller and declare the 2nd Amendment null and void. Then his "national security force" comes to your home and in the scenario posted above fear will rule and guns will be gone. It happened in other countries, it can happen here.
Kaiser Wilhelm of Germany once said "let the people think they are invested in their gov't, it keeps them docile". How many who get a gov't check like Social Security or a pension will step up and overthrow obama's little empire if they would lose their income?

If this commie gets elected, you can bank on a gun ban, But it doesn't have to happen..Vote Mccain/Palin and anyone with an R after their name..drain the swamp on Tuesday.

Seadog
You got that right. There are lots of guns that will never be found. I really don't think Americans are going to give up their guns that easily and like someone else said limp home about it. If the first shootout occurs over this, other people in this country are going to rise up. There is nothing more sacred to many people than the right to bear arms.

Seawolf
You're right, vote McCain/Palin to avoid having our guns taken away.

But, I would not give into this gun ban if Obama is elected.

We do a disservice to our Founding Fathers who established our freedoms for us many years ago, to just lie down and take it.

Do you want to live in a totalitarian country or go out fighting? What's in our lives if we have all of our freedoms gone.

That is not the American way. We have to stand up and fight no matter what it takes.

Learn from England
I was reading on an English blog how serious violence has gone up after guns were taken away from law abiding citizens in England. The same thing will happen here if we let. This is something we cannot compromise on. I imagine immigration from terrorist sponsoring states will greatly increase under an Obama presidency and we will need protection more than ever. I also fear Obama's Public Allies will become oppressive thugs once they are empowered as a domestic police force. Just say hell no to gun control.

Zogby Has Us UP by One (1)
Obama is an existential threat to America. Sunday November 2nd is a National Day of Prayer devoted to the election. Church officials of multiple faiths across the nation are asking people to pray for God's will in the election because there are so many critical issues at stake. This election is as important as any this country has faced in its 232 years. If you can say a simple silent prayer Sunday asking for God to be present in the election, it could be a powerful force on the many life and death outcomes hanging in the balance.

Also please vote and get as many people you know to the polls. Turnout wins this thing!!!

Obama's Gun Restriction Policy
Obama is among the best of the vintage democrat 'weasel worders'. He and the other democrat purveyors of deceit and duplicity have placed themselves above us and the Constitution. They have repeatedly demonstrated that they are willing to SAY ANYTHING to achieve their goals.

None of the elitist left have any respect for the U.S. Constitution. If Obama can assert that the Earl Warren Court was not radical enough, you can be assured that the next Supreme Court nominees will make Justice Ginsburg look like a moderate.

Hang on!

Dr. Chaz and Dick
Dr. Chaz
From another Kentuckian, I am saying my prayers all day and all night through the election. Very good idea for the whole nation to say their prayers that our country does not fall under this Marxist.

If the Socialist party starts tearing down our Constitution, I think I recall that it says, by the people, for the people.

Dick
If these socialists do what we expect them to do, if elected, it will be time for all of us to raise our voices in unison demanding impeachment of the whole lot of them. IMHO, they will all be traitors to our country. They took an oath to uphold the Constitution. They are bound by that oath. If they are not going to abide by it, then we, the people, must see to it that they are stopped.

Reports from History
From Thomas Jefferson to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778:

. . . we discover that our enemies have filled Europe with Thrasonic accounts of victories they had never won and conquests they were fated never to make. . . Many of the articles have been communicated to us from England as taken from the official returns made by their General. . . I think that upon the whole (our loss) has been about one half the number lost by them. THIS DIFFERENCE IS ASCRIBED TO OUR SUPERIORITY IN TAKING AIM WHEN WE FIRE; EVERY SOLDIER IN OUR ARMY HAVING BEEN INTIMATE WITH HIS GUN FROM HIS INFANCY.

From: Jefferson, Political Writings, Cambridge Text, 1999

Our Past Experience With Disarmement
Jefferson on Taking Up Arms, July 6, 1775

(After the Battle of Concord, the British rushed back to Boston to lick their wounds, fearfull of an onslaught by the rebels who had the momentum. General Gage ordered the town's citizens to deposit their weapons in armouries "for safe keeping" and if they complied they would be free to leave.)

Jefferson: "The inhabitants of Boston being confined within that town by the General, their Governor, and having, in order to procure their dismission, entered into a treaty with him, it was stipulated that the said inhabitants having deposited their arms, should have liberty to depart, taking with them their other effects. They accordingly delivered up their arms, but in open violation of honour, in defiance of the obligation of treaties, which even savage nations esteemed sacred, the Governor (General Gage), ordered the arms to be seized by a body of British soldiers; detained the greatest part of the inhapitants in the town, and compelled the few who were permitted to retire, to leave their most valuable effects behind.

By this pefidy wives are separated from their husbands, children from their parents, the aged and the sick from their relations and friends, who wish to attend and comfort them; and those who have been used to live in plenty and even elegance,a re reduced to deplorable distress.

OBAMA GOONS STIFLE NRA ADS IN PA

.....When the NRA started to run 4 ads in PA that outlined Obama's voting record on the 2nd Amendment his goon squads went into action to get the ads off the air ...

.....Obama lawyers threatened the TV stations with lawsuits ...supporters flooded the stations with complaints and boycotts ...imagine if enough voters are stupid enough to put this man in the White House where he can stack the Courts with radical anti-gun left wingers ...hide your guns .....COLOSSUS

ARE VOTERS THAT STUPID?


.....Are Americans stupid enough to elect to the highest executive office in the country a man, who because of his past associations with ex-terrorists, radicals, criminals and Marxists, would be unable to pass the same security test required of a Washington tour guide? ...

.....We are about to find out .....COLOSSUS

FREEDOM
I would rather die on my feet--than live on my knees. They will take my guns when they pry my cold dead fingers off the trigger.

OBAMA IS ANTI-FREEDOM!
WAKE UP AMERICA OBAMA WANTS TO TAKE ALL OUR RIGHTS!OBAMA WANTS BARNEY FRANK TO RUN MAYBERRY,WE ALL LIKE BARNEY FIF.OPIE GOT SNAKE BIT!

B.HUSSEIN WILL TRY TO DESTROY MAYBERRY!
OBAMA IS A DOG THAT WONT HUNT,AND HE DONT WANT US TO! FOLKS VOTE MCCAIN-PALIN!

This is Obama in a nutshell
Hiding his past, carefully crafting his image, running a Saul Alinsky (Rules for Radicals) style campaign. This election has been a voyage of discovery, frightening bits and pieces about Obama coming to light when he makes errant remarks or when somebody (not the mainstream media) uncovers something.

I think Obama's idea of "commonsense regulation" of guns means banning them entirely, not surprising for someone with his Marxist tax and social plans. I wonder if Obama also favors banning bombs? I'm sure his friend Bill Ayers would object.

Gun-Restriction
Nobama is a lying, deceitful slimeball and I wouldn't trust him to shine my shoes!

the 2nd
I just hope that America is not dumbed down enough to elect a black supremacist muslim marxist to the highest office in the land. I agree with others posting here that any assault on the second amendment by this third rate imbecile will have serious consequences.

I think it's time for every conservative to fly the Gadsden flag and openly defy our corrupt government.

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

As goes the 2nd Ammendment, so too the
whole Constitution.

Gun Violence - Another Liberal failure

If you were to take and FBI crime map and place it over a voter registration map of the United States you would see that everywhere there is a high level of gun violence, there is a high concenstration of Liberal Democrats.

This despite Liberal Democrat Mayors, City Councils, and school boards. Cities like L.A. Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and New York, Atlanta, all have Liberals running the show. The result is poor quality of lives,stress out population, demoralize police departments, poor schools, and lack of jobs.

You can't just blame all this on the drug culture because we know a substantial amount of drug abuse is also happening in the suburbs and rural areas.

So clearly america doesn't necessarily have a problem with people with guns. America has a problem with Liberals with guns.

White people have to ...
vote for Obama in big numbers in order for him to win.

I can understand Black americans want "their guy" to win - even though he is not really "their guy" - but I guess he is close enough. So the black vote is not goiong to change - Blacks will go for Obama.

But for Obama to lose a lot of white Americans seeking to shed their White Guilt have to wake up in time to realize that voting for Obama will do NOTHING to change slavery, or Jim Crow, or the 1960's, or segregation from the past.

If you are white, there is nothing wrong in voting for John McCain. He is a true American hero. He has suffered for our country.

Obama has not served this country in any way shape or form - being a POLITICIAN or a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER is NOT service to country.

There will be a time - maybe soon - when you can vote for a BLack American who is an AMERICAN - not this hybrid Obama who is a MusloChristian IndonesiaKenyan who has refused even to verify that he is a Natural Born Citizen of this country.

John McCain has verified his citizenbshiop, OIbama has not.

Why? The answer is obvious. He can't or he would have already done so.

As a white person, how can you vote in concert with so many prople that hate you for YOUR RACE and hate AMERICA. How can you do this to your country and to your family and to yourself?

Obama is a Socialist. He is an ANTI-AMERICAN RACIST. He could NOT have sat under Jeremiah Wright's ministry if he did not AGREE with his rants.

If Obama wins, it will be WHITE people who elect him.

Do your self a favor, put your WHITE GUILT on hold until November 5, 2008. Obama is not worthy of your Guilt VOTE, He has not suffered as a Black American. His history is one of privilege and middle class upbringing mixed in with a host of anti-American friends.

Vote for a man who loves this country and has served this country - John McCain.

Vote McCain/Palin 2008.

The gun issue ...
is not difficult to comprehend. Both sides know the truth. The guns are there to protect us against a government that turns to tyranny.
Tyrants want the people disarmed. In advancing the cause of tyranny the creeps amongst us have moved into all the positions of power and have subverted justice causing an ever increasing tide of recitivism.
They live in relish of news of gun violence and rape and all nature of perversion. They are insane; their souls are stained.
That's why free people require weapons. In the end, we will not bend the knee to evil. It's easier to die fighting.
That's how simple the whole issue is.

Gun-Restriction
To a fellow patriot: Good analysis, Cliff from N.Y. but your conclusion only applies to those with the will to die for their convictions. I'm one of those but I doubt we’re a majority of the conservatives; lilly-livered cowards are everywhere! Semper libertalis!

Even my Death Penalty Professor
has called the 2nd Amendment the "reset button" on the Constitution. That's an ACADEMIC professor for you!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Go 'Cuda, GO!!

Not bitter but getting my .38 ASAP
Nobama will trash our 2nd amendment rights. I applied for my IL Firearm Owner's ID today. The gun shop was full of people looking for FOID application forms. Get your handgun while you still can!

Circle the wagons.
If you have been waiting for an excuse to buy that gun you've always wanted, or perhaps even your first gun, you may never get a better chance, or dare a say, a second chance. Buy an extra (consider it an investment in your life). Buy plenty of ammo, lots of it, more than you think you'll need - it doesn't go bad when stored properly, there is viable ammo left over from the second world war. Ammo may end up being more valuable than food itself. In any event, you can always hunt for game, and everyone needs to practice. Any gun you own, is several orders of magnitude more difficult for the government to confiscate from you, than for that same government preventing you from procuring it in the first place. Buy now! Buy often! A responsible and well-armed populace is societies' (and democracy's) best friend. Just ask our forefathers.

gun laws and regulations
Bilions are spent on gun laws that are not working.
Save the billions and put into effect a simple law that works.

For any vilent crime committed with deadly weapon the criminal will recieve a life sentance and for the rest of (his or her's) life will work each day with the monies going the families or indivual who was affected by the violent crime.
I promise vilent crimes will drop drimatically
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