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Thursday, March 08, 2007
John Noonan :: Townhall.com Columnist
They know so much that isn't so
by John Noonan
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Sometimes I read liberal blogs. Not for education, of course. I suppose I read them as some sort of perverse method of reinforcing my convictions on the war. Ronald Reagan used to say "it's not that liberals are ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so." It's a bit of wisdom that is most effectively illustrated by the left side of the blogosphere.

This war has become, by and large, an exercise in politics. "Warped Clausewitz" is a good way of framing it. In Clausewitzian theory, war is conducted by a trinity of the people, the military, and the government, all interconnected and functioning as a single-minded entity in pursuit of a single objective: victory.

Today the trinity is fractured. Some would argue that it fractured when we withdrew from Vietnam. But losing South Vietnam didn't have the same horrific implications as losing Iraq to Iran, nor did we have to worry about Saigon becoming the capital of a breeding-ground vacuum state.

And, we aren't conscripting a largely disgruntled pool of unwilling draftees to fight the war in Iraq like we did in Vietnam. All are volunteers. So why has 21st-century America shattered the trinity when we need it most?

True to Clausewitzian thought, the answer lies in the political realm. Opposition to President Bush has become downright religious for some Americans—activists whose greatest fear is that victory in Iraq would be tantamount to justifying the whole invasion and occupation.

Thus leftist pundits erect pyramids of anti-war rhetoric, built on falsehoods, misconception, and doubt—constructs that serve as pillars of justification for a hasty retreat. None of it is built on sound military judgment or expertise, which should be a requisite for respected war punditry, but like Ronnie said, "they know so much that isn't so." And, there's nothing left-o'-center bloggers love more than to show off that knowledge.

Take Juan Cole for example. Cole is a prominent liberal blogger and a professor at the University of Michigan. Recently he reported on his blog, titled Informed Comment (without a hint of irony, no doubt), that the U.S. Air Force:

…launched a series of bombing raids on southeast Baghdad. This is absolutely shameful, that the US is bombing from the air a civilian city that it militarily occupies. You can't possibly do that without killing innocent civilians, as at Ramadi the other day. It is a war crime. US citizens should protest and write their congressional representatives. It is also the worst possible counter-insurgency tactic anyone could ever have imagined. You bomb people, they hate you.

Not if you're bombing the folks who are trying to kill you, as the Air Force is doing by targeting Al Qaeda Iraq with a healthy dose of precision-guided justice. Then people like you. A lot. In fact, an Iraqi blogger e-mailed me a photo that he took of a B-1 bomber running a combat air patrol over Baghdad, curiously wanting to know what it was, and whether or not it would help with the surge. That's right—Iraqis are so terrified of these bombing raids that they're outside taking pictures of the strike aircraft.

Prof. Cole is doing something that many anti-war bloggers do—pretending that they are someone they aren't, writing on a topic that that they know little about. Cole is a professor of Middle Eastern studies, and is no doubt expert in that discipline. But his writing implies that he has some sort of expertise on counter-insurgency that trumps that of the career military officers who ordered the aforementioned air strikes.

You ask a career military officer and they'll tell you that using precision guided munitions is one of the best ways possible to minimize civilian casualties and collateral damage, while still effectively negating a target. Ask Juan Cole and he'll make it seem like the U.S. Air Force is indiscriminately carpet bombing Iraqi neighborhoods for a giggle. "They know so much that isn't so."

On Monday, USA today front paged news that the 2nd Brigade of the 4th Infantry Division and the 4th Stryker Brigade would be bypassing the usual pre-deployment counter-insurgency training at the National Training Center (NTC) so that they could more rapidly support the recent troop surge.

Blogger John Aravosis hyperventilated over this news on AMERICAblog, another popular blog opposed to the war in Iraq, suggesting that Iraq war supporters "hate the troops but love the war."

An informed commentator, well-versed in military knowledge and thought would rationally tell you that these two particular units are already seasoned veterans of the war, and come from home bases (Forts Campbell and Stewart) that boast two of the world's finest MOUT (military operations on urban terrain) facilities.

That is the reason that the Pentagon feels comfortable in accelerating their training. John Aravosis, not well-versed in military knowledge or thought, would have you believe that inexperienced kids are being heartlessly shipped into a meat grinder without proper training or equipment. "They know so much that isn't so."

These are two relatively benign examples from the liberal blogosphere, a place whose terrain cracks and oozes with emotionally driven hatred masquerading as political discourse. A place where the mere thought of victory in Iraq is downright blasphemous. But they do effectively demonstrate how anti-war bloggers and pundits will try to second-guess and sabotage the Pentagon's every move by pretending to be military experts.

Surely Clausewitz never anticipated that an active percentage of his trinity would be working towards achieving the enemy's vision of victory, but perhaps that's the most compelling evidence that the trinity has fractured once and for all.

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John Noonan has been published in The Washington Post, Richmond Times-Dispatch, and National Review, and was a contributor to the Encylopedia of World War I and World War II. He blogs at www.op-for.com.

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Liberal Bloggers
I signed up at a liberal blogging site for some undercover work, and I was appalled at the hollowness of it. Each post was essential a headline with a one-liner beneath it- essentially void of the substantive articles written daily on townhall. Then hundreds of commentators basically would comment by saying "yeah for us! Boo for them!" ad infinitem.

I tried refuting some of their ideas, but I was frankly ignored. Nobody responded to any comments at all, it was just a "hooray for us" fest. Anytime a liberal posts here they are quick to have their arguments ripped apart.

I think it isn't that they know so much that just ain't so, but that millions of people reinforce that ideal. After all, if reality can be changed by consensus...

The Gipper...
...really had the Moonbats pegged!

great article!!

Agreed
Yup, just let Petraeus do his job.

I find Juan Cole useful at times because he seems to have a better understanding of the complexities of Iraqi society and politics than I find elsewhere, but his military judgments are uninformed.

AHAHAHAHA!!!
If you want a REAL "laugh" go to this MOONBAT site!! We have been engaging them and we have them squirming...

http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=479#comment-927

Truly pathetic, to say the least...

To Libertybob
It's a wonder you were not kicked off immediately. Normally the Lib sites do not allow conservative trolls. They are banned immediately.

One wonders...
...how vocal the "conscientious objectors" would be if Reagan was the President today?

Nope... it wouldn't make a difference. "Partisanship" now trumps national unity and patriotism.

Truly sad.

The Fractured Trinity
Has at least been an issue since WWII. The left in America was perfectly ok with Hitler when he was honoring the Hitler-Stalin pact. It wasn't until he violated that pact and attacked "the motherland" that they screamed, many in the State Department screamed for war. After the war these State Department officials turned their backs on their country during the cold war and sold secrets to our next enemy (after Hitler).

Of Course We All Agree
Ayn Rand said that the minute someone says "Of course we all agree that..." whatever follows should be denied. The person laying down that statement is giving you his Major Premise and if you agree with that, your arguments become window dressing to this.

"Of course we all agree that a woman has a right to unlimited abortion" is one major premise. "Of course we all agree that everyone who breathes has a 'right' to food, clothing, shelter and a living wage" is another.

"Of course we all agree that men and women are different" is a trickier one, because the alert conservative must jump in and say "Define 'different' before we go further."

"Of course we all agree that Men Are Pigs" is another tricky statement because the terms have been left undefined. A lot of times Liberals and Conservatives think they are agreeing on something when they are talking past one another because the terms have not been agreed upon. Haven't you ever travelled with someone and found out when you got to the destination that what you thought you had agreed upon was not what she thought she had agreed to?

That is due entirely to the fact that the major premise contains undefined terms and therefore the argument collapses like a house of cards.

A spooky little story I read once concerned a group of sentient ants who was in the process of taking over a neighbourhood. One battalion had assured a man that "We can save you." As the house began to crumble around them, the man asked "Are you sure you can save me?"

And the ant leader replied, "Oh we didn't mean you as an INDIVIDUAL."

The man, you see, had assumed that "you" meant the same to an ant as it meant to him.

That's the problem the Liberals and the Conservatives have.

AudiR10:
Ayn Rand referred to it as the "Argument from Intimidation", which she further described as "is a confession of intellectual impotence."

You can usually identifies an Argument from Intimidation, since the sentence framing it begins with something like:

* surely you don't believe in the stupid notion that ..
* no serious person believes that ..
* only mindless Neanderthals still believe ..
* one million scientists 'feel' that ..
* it has been conclusively proven that ..

Usually no facts are offered that would prove such an argument.

Ad hominem attacks!
Don't forget ad hominen attacks. When someone resorts to personal attacks against you, it is a sure sign they can't refute your statements.

Nice posts AudiR10-Voice of reason
Great debating tips. Usually critics just try and throw out as many unrelated statements as they can so they do not have to defend any of them specifically. Its nice to be able to recognize rhetorical flags that allow one to take apart their argument in a methodical fashion.

libertybob

You are so right,
I've surfed through Alternet, DailyKos, and Huffington. Too often I see off the wall rants, BDS, or excessive obscenity. I appreciate TH's approach. As tempting as it is to use overt obscenity to describe some folks, it is better exercise of one's vocabulary to say that as "Bone" McCoy once said "What the Klingon has to say is of no consequence"

I can refer to some one as a bottom dwelling scavenger that's lower than a catfish's belly without using ^$%#&(&)(*.

I won't promise that once in a while I may slip.

Off subject but important!
IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE, FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!.. She really was a traitor

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember, and didn't have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear.

Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." by Barbra Walters

Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot named Jerry Driscoll. In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for the visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane Treatment" he'd received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During a subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant’s feet, which sent that officer berserk. In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied application of a wooden baton.

From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hanoi Hilton", the first three of which his family only knew he was "missing in action". His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane Treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their slivers of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.

“When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received... and how different it was from the treatment reported by The North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me. These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.

There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget “.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343

What I can't stand
is the left's insistance on referring to our millitary in paternalistic terms. Boxer, Feinstein and Pelosi all want to bring our kid home, etc.

The US does not utilize child soldiers, unlike their authentic Sub-saharan African models of authenticity. Our armed forces are young men and women who want to serve their country, and not as a glorified meals on wheels program.

If I could be granted one wish, it would be to send the entirety of Congress to Iraq on a 6 week rotating basis. Require these Congressmen and Senators to venture outside of the greenzones a minimum of 20% of their time in country. (Five hours a day, for seven days each week). Embed them into various units where they will get to know our military on a first name basis. Then maybe, they will think twice before denegrating our troops and their mission.

We'd only be out 69 congressmen/senators each cycle, their fellow lawmakers should be able to take up the slack for 6 weeks. I'd go one step further and withhold 1/3 of their pay until all members have completed their rotation. That should insure that Kerry, Murtha, and Pelosi won't call in sick.

bobnet

That is the name of the virus that repearedly attacked Bill O'Reilly's web site a couple of days ago causing it to be shut down. Evidently, the same thing happened to Ann Coulter's web site although nothing has come out on hers.

What happens is that the web site got bombarded with massive amounts of data that overloads the firewall.

Let's see now: Ann is a Conservative and Bill is an Independent who supports many Conservative causes.

Do you think there is a connection between the two? Hmmm, I wonder?

It is wise to study America's enemies.
It can be a strong challenge if you expect to find logical reasons for the words of Liberals.
The only consistency I can see is in error.


Snooper: re link
Interesting commentary and lack of specifics on the part of the site operators. And the avoidance of legislative responsibility was interesting. Don't think you can impeach members of Congress; each House can expell a member (Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution), but not impeach.

Also, the remark about the Caliphate ending in c.a. 1924 seems a bit off. The Caliphate collapsed with the Shia-Sunni split in the 700s IIRC; there were "caliphates" after that, but they didn't speak for the entire "umma".

Good link and thanks.

MyOpine

I appreciate the website, but for me it leaves too much open for faulty intrepretation.

Would you give me a hand to lead me where you would like to go with this? It is your view I am interested in, not theirs.

Thanks

Shrew
And I hope that you understand exactly what you are saying...when you make such an assinine comment such as that. Those men have more right to live than you ever will after a comment like that...

Sonny
I think it is an attempt to shut Ann Coulter up.
The same reason her web site is under cyber attack.

Those kind of attacks can usually be traced back.
I think it is being done with equipment from a certain deep pockets university that will soon be sued for malice.

I think DailyKos will be stupid enough to post the names of any sponsor they drive away from Coulter and some angry conservatives will boycot those sponsors.

Thats all the I thinks I have on that one.
The link kind of backed up your post so I gave it to you.

for Shurely_u_jest
I remember well some of what you say. Not all of this got out at the time. Thanks for the reminder.

ALWAYS thought she should have been hung as a traitor...

Makes me wonder even more about John Mc Cain...

Juan Cole
While Juan cole might know something of the Middle east,I am not convinced he knows Iraq well. I remember well a couple of years ago when Juan cole was writing about how Iraq could never be a democracy because of its history, the bloggers at Iraq the Model took him to the woodshed over his claims of Iraqi history. They refuted almost every claim he made citing chapter and verse to do so.

Juan Cole reminds me a lot of Noam Chomsky writing about Cambodia and the Khmer Rouge. He will not admit that he is not sure of what he is saying but thinks it might happen this way or that. He just plain says this is thus and so and when he is challenged he just covers his ears and repeats what he said. I would like a whole lot more proof before I believed anything he had to say about what is happening in Iraq.
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