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Thursday, February 07, 2008
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John McCain Addresses CPAC
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John McCain addressed the CPAC convention on Thursday, February 7th with the following remarks:

Thank you. Thank you for inviting me. It's been a little while since I've had the honor of addressing you, and I appreciate very much your courtesy to me today. We should do this more often. I hope you will pardon my absence last year, and understand that I intended no personal insult to any of you. I was merely pre-occupied with the business of trying to escape the distinction of pre-season frontrunner for the Republican nomination, which, I'm sure some of you observed, I managed to do in fairly short order. But, now, I again have the privilege of that distinction, and this time I would prefer to hold on to it for a while.

I know I have a responsibility, if I am, as I hope to be, the Republican nominee for President, to unite the party and prepare for the great contest in November. And I am acutely aware that I cannot succeed in that endeavor, nor can our party prevail over the challenge we will face from either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama, without the support of dedicated conservatives, whose convictions, creativity and energy have been indispensible to the success our party has had over the last quarter century. Many of you have disagreed strongly with some positions I have taken in recent years. I understand that. I might not agree with it, but I respect it for the principled position it is. And it is my sincere hope that even if you believe I have occasionally erred in my reasoning as a fellow conservative, you will still allow that I have, in many ways important to all of us, maintained the record of a conservative. Further, I hope you will grant that I have defended many positions we share just as ardently as I have made my case for positions that have provoked your opposition. If not, thank you for this opportunity to make my case today.

I am proud to be a conservative, and I make that claim because I share with you that most basic of conservative principles: that liberty is a right conferred by our Creator, not by governments, and that the proper object of justice and the rule of law in our country is not to aggregate power to the state but to protect the liberty and property of its citizens. And like you, I understand, as Edmund Burke observed, that "whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither . . . is safe." While I have long worked to help grow a public majority of support for Republican candidates and principles, I have also always believed, like you, in the wisdom of Ronald Reagan, who warned in an address to this conference in 1975, that "a political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency or simply to swell its numbers."

I attended my first CPAC conference as the invited guest of Ronald Reagan, not long after I had returned from overseas, when I heard him deliver his "shining city upon a hill" speech. I was still a naval officer then, but his words inspired and helped form my own political views, just as Ronald Reagan's defense of America's cause in Vietnam and his evident concern for American prisoners of war in that conflict inspired and were a great comfort to those of us who, in my friend Jerry Denton's words, had the honor of serving "our country under difficult circumstances." I am proud, very proud, to have come to public office as a foot soldier in the Reagan Revolution. And if a few of my positions have raised your concern that I have forgotten my political heritage, I want to assure you that I have not, and I am as proud of that association today as I was then.

My record in public office taken as a whole is the record of a mainstream conservative. I believe today, as I believed twenty-five years ago, in small government; fiscal discipline; low taxes; a strong defense, judges who enforce, and not make, our laws; the social values that are the true source of our strength; and, generally, the steadfast defense of our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which I have defended my entire career as God-given to the born and unborn. Those are my beliefs, and you need not examine only my past votes and speeches to assure yourselves that they are my genuine convictions.

You can take added confidence from the positions I have defended during this campaign. I campaigned in Iowa in opposition to agriculture subsidies. I campaigned in New Hampshire against big government mandated health care and for a free market solution to the problem of unavailable and unaffordable health care. I campaigned in Michigan for the tax incentives and trade policies that will create new and better jobs in that economically troubled state. I campaigned in Florida against the national catastrophic insurance fund bill that passed the House of Representatives and defended my opposition to the prescription drug benefit bill that saddled Americans with yet another hugely expensive entitlement program. I have argued to make the Bush tax cuts permanent, to reduce the corporate tax rate and abolish the AMT. I have defended my position on protecting our Second Amendment rights, including my votes against waiting periods, bans on the so-called "assault weapons," and illegitimate lawsuits targeting gun manufacturers. I have proudly defended my twenty-four year pro-life record. Throughout this campaign, I have defended the President's brave decision to increase troop levels in Iraq to execute a long overdue counterinsurgency that has spared us the terrible calamity of losing that war. I held these positions because I believed they were in the best interests of my party and country."

Surely, I have held other positions that have not met with widespread agreement from conservatives. I won't pretend otherwise nor would you permit me to forget it. On the issue of illegal immigration, a position which provoked the outspoken opposition of many conservatives, I stood my ground aware that my position would imperil my campaign. I respect your opposition for I know that the vast majority of critics to the bill based their opposition in a principled defense of the rule of law. And while I and other Republican supporters of the bill were genuine in our intention to restore control of our borders, we failed, for various and understandable reasons, to convince Americans that we were.

I accept that, and have pledged that it would be among my highest priorities to secure our borders first, and only after we achieved widespread consensus that our borders are secure, would we address other aspects of the problem in a way that defends the ru le of law and does not encourage another wave of illegal immigration. All I ask of any American, conservative, moderate, independent, or enlightened Democrat, is to judge my record as a whole, and accept that I am not in the habit of making promises to my country that I do not intend to keep. I hope I have proven that in my life even to my critics. Then vote for or against me based on that record, my qualifications for the office, and the direction where I plainly state I intend to lead our country. If I am so fortunate as to be the Republican nominee for President, I will offer Americans, in what will be a very challenging and spirited contest, a clearly conservative approach to governing.

I will make my case to voters, no matter what state they reside in, in the same way. I will not obscure my positions from voters who I fear might not share them. I will stand on my convictions, my conservative convictions, and trust in the good sense of the voters, and in my confidence that conservative principles still appeal t o a majority of Americans, Republicans, Independents and Reagan Democrats. Often elections in this country are fought within the margins of small differences. This one will not be. We are arguing about hugely consequential things.

Whomever the Democrats nominate, they would govern this country in a way that will, in my opinion, take this country backward to the days when government felt empowered to take from us our freedom to decide for ourselves the course and quality of our lives; to substitute the muddled judgment of large and expanding federal bureaucracies for the common sense and values of the American people; to the timidity and wishful thinking of a time when we averted our eyes from terrible threats to our security that were so plainly gathering strength abroad. It is shameful and dangerous that Senate Democrats are blocking an extension of surveillance powers that enable our intelligence and law enforcement to defend our country against radical Islamic extremists.

This election is going to be about big things, not small things. And I intend to fight as hard as I can to ensure that our principles prevail over theirs. Senator Clinton and Senator Obama want to increase the size of the federal government. I intend to reduce it. I will not sign a bill with earmarks in it, any earmarks in it. I will fight for the line item veto, and I will not permit any expansion whatsoever of the entitlement programs that are bankrupting us. On the contrary, I intend to reform those programs so that government is no longer in that habit of making promises to Americans it does not have the means to keep.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will raise your taxes. I intend to cut them. I will start by making the Bush tax cuts permanent. I will cut corporate tax rates from 35 to 25% to keep industries and jobs in this country. I will end the Alternate Minimum Tax. And I won't let a Democratic Congress raise your taxes and choke the growth of our economy. They will offer a big government solution to health care insurance coverage. I intend to address the problem with free market solutions and with respect for the freedom of individuals to make important choices for themselves. They will appoint to the federal bench judges who are intent on achieving political changes that the American people cannot be convinced to accept through the election of their representatives. I intend to nominate judges who have proven themselves worthy of our trust that they take as their sole responsibility the enforcement of laws made by the people's elected representatives, judges of the character and quality of Justices Roberts and Alito, judges who can be relied upon to respect the values of the people whose rights, laws and property they are sworn to defend.

Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will withdraw our forces from Iraq based on an arbitrary timetable designed for the sake of political expediency, and which recklessly ignores the profound human calamity and dire threats to our security that would ensue. I intend to win the war, and trust in the proven judgment of our commanders there and the courage and selflessness of the Americans they have the honor to command. I share the grief over the terrible losses we have suffered in its prosecution. There is no other candidate for this office who appreciates more than I do just how awful war is. But I know that the costs in lives and treasure we would incur should we fail in Iraq will be far greater than the heartbreaking losses we have suffered to date. And I will not allow that to happen.

They won't recognize and seriously address the threat posed by an Iran with nuclear ambitions to our ally, Israel, and the region. I intend to make unmistakably clear to Iran we will not permit a government that espouses the destruction of the State of Israel as its fondest wish and pledges undying enmity to the United States to possess the weapons to advance their malevolent ambitions. Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will concede to our critics that our own actions to defend against its threats are responsible for fomenting the terrible evil of radical Islamic extremism, and their resolve to combat it will be as flawed as their judgment.

I intend to defeat that threat by staying on offense and by marshaling every relevant agency of our government, and our allies, in the urgent necessity of defending the values, virtues and security of free people against those who despise all that is good about us. These are but a few of the differences that will define this election. They are very significant differences, and I promise you, I intend to contest these issues on conservative grounds and fight as hard as I can to defend the principles and positions we share, and to keep this country safe, proud, prosperous and free. We have had a few disagreements, and none of us will pretend that we won't continue to have a few. But even in disagreement, especially in disagreement, I will seek the counsel of my fellow conservatives. If I am convinced my judgment is in error, I will correct it. And if I stand by my position, even after benefit of your counsel, I hope you will not lose sight of the far more numerous occasions when we are in complete accord.

I began by assuring you that we share a conception of liberty that is the bedrock of our beliefs as conservatives. As you know, I was deprived of liberty for a time in my life, and while my love of liberty is no greater than yours, you can be confident that mine is the equal of any American's. It is a deep and unwavering love. My life experiences in service to our country inform my political judgments. They are at the core of my convictions.

I am pro-life and an advocate for the Rights of Man everywhere in the world because of them, because I know that to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and nature's Creator. I will never waver in that conviction, I promise you. I know in this country our liberty will not be seized in a political revolution or by a totalitarian government. But, rather, as Burke warned, it can be "nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts." I am alert to that risk and will defend against it, and ta ke comfort from the knowledge that I will be encouraged in that defense by my fellow conservatives. You have heard me say before that for all my reputation as a maverick, I have only found true happiness in serving a cause greater than my self-interest. For me, that cause has always been our country, and the ideals that have made us great. I have been her imperfect servant for many years, and I have made many mistakes. You can attest to that, but need not. For I know them well myself. But I love her deeply and I will never, never tire of the honor of serving her. I cannot do that without your counsel and support. And I am grateful, very grateful, that you have given me this opportunity to ask for it. Thank you and God bless you.

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John McCain is a candidate for the nomination of the Republican Party for President of the United States.

Make Bush deficits permanent
'Sorry John, but the math just doesn't add up. You can veto all the earmarks you want (which you should) but that won't counter the $9 billion/month we're spending in Iraq, particularly since you'd support staying there 100 years. You can't truly "cut taxes" while running a deficit. You can only force us to borrow more money.

Conservatives Boo McCain!
HP-After facing whithering attacks from conservatives, presumptive GOP presidential nominee John McCain addressed party activists on Thursday at CPAC (after Mitt Romney dropped out). The question remained: How would he be greeted? Conference organizers warned not to boo McCain — and what happened? There was booing.

Watch to find out why.


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/conservatives-boo- mccain

I suffered though the entire speech
I suffered through the entire speech and must say it sounds like he was taking notes of Romney's excellent speech. The Speech addressed the conscerns of conservatives like myself, but fell short of bringing me to supporting him. The reason for this was the not admitting he was wrong, the statements that he would still disappoint us and the fact that he kept calling me his friend. I have vowed to not support him in the Nomination, but my candidate has chosen to support him. I think Romney showed again why he is a class act and how classless McCain is comparatively. I do appreciate his acknowledgment of Romney's campaign and felt that was relatively sincere, but it was not enough. Time will tell if I stick to my principles or not, but at this point I am not convinced he will be better than Hillary or Obama. He spoke like a conservative, but warned us of his tendencies to be a Maverick. He explained how he is always a consummate conservative even when he does not agree with the party. This is to me an open admission that he will not change from who he is, even if his speech has changed. I almost believe that he believed what he said and that is the most disturbing part of it. At this time I think I will right in Romney's name on the ballot.

romney
i too will write in Romney's name!

correction
"write" in Romney's name on the ballot.

It looks..
like Captain Comeback's victory is nearly complete. This is clearly making hard core extreme right wingers like Limbaugh and Hannity very angry and rolling around pounding the ground crying.

Wow. Gotta hand it to John....
I read through the text & McCain didn't seem to make any concessions to his CPAC audience that would have heartened them. His stated positions here are nothing new. He "stood his ground". He will seal the border & when the border is adequately sealed & "widespread concensus" is achieved about the border, then he'll work out the amnesty for the resident illegals.

I kind of respect his standing his ground actually & not flip-flopping or shifting his rhetoric to appease his consevative audience.

"All I ask of any American, conservative, moderate, independant, or enlightened democrat is to judge my record as a whole, and accept that I am not in the habit of making promises to my country that I do not intend to keep."

Isn't it nice to witness a politician (that is deeply, innately moderate as John McCain is) to not suck up to the activist conservatives listening?

WONDERFUL SPEECH!!!
Too bad it was uttered by someone as completely untrustworthy to and utterly comtemptuous of true conservatives.

zzzzzzzzz

OK, McCain!

You've gotten my attention by Romney's patriotic declination speech, as well as your own "conciliatory" CPAC speech. Don't ruin it!

It's time to, "Reagan UP", John, or ---- you and the mule you rode in on.

CEN

Never
McCain has had years to be a conservative and has chosen to be a liberal. If he wins, it will be without my vote and the vote of any conservative in my family. I'd prefer a democrat politician lead us down the socialist path, but if has to be him, so be it. The sooner we get it over with the better. Hopefully we survive and come out better for it on the other side.

Nice Speech
If you can stand to listen to the lies and pandering.

SWING AND A MISS OL' JOHNNY!!!!!!

You can't run far enough or fast enough from your previous record. I'm not buying the Bovine Excrement you're trying to sell.

McCain: Will the Moment Make the Man? 1
With Romney making perhaps the best speech of his political life and exiting the stage with class and grace, the path is clear for John McCain to make his case for the support of all Republicans, particularly the conservative wing.

As a lifelong conservative Republican who has become increasingly disgusted with the absolutely wasted majorities we had from 2000-2006, I am one of the many who must be persuaded to support McCain as something more than the lesser of two evils.

The optimist within me was hoping for a home run speech today....

And I gotta say McCain's speech was....a decent base hit:

1) No surrender in Iraq.
2) No letup in the GWOT.
3) Make Bush's tax cuts permanent.
4) Lower corporate taxes to 25% and eliminate AMT.
5) No earmarks of any kind.
6) Reduce waste and size of government.
7) Praise for Alito and Roberts and pledge to nominate similar Justices.
8) Secure borders BEFORE considering reform/amnesty/whatever
9) 2nd Amendment support, no wavering
10) Reign in entitlements (a huge open-ended mess)

I agree with him that these are BIG issues and BIG differences with whomever the Democrats choose.

If McCain continues to espouse these bulletpoints to the general voting public (not just to conservative audiences) in future speeches and debates he's got my vote. (continued)

BOOOOO
The crowd sure made their feelings known. McCain supports did their best to drown the boos out.

If your state primary or caucus is still upcoming, vote Romney. What can it hurt? Don't stay home. My state (Washington) has a caucus is Saturday and everyone I know is voting Romney, same for the primary on the 19th. Send a message that we will not support McCain without OUR voice in the mix.

McCain: Will the Moment Make the Man? 2
If he wants my money and active support, however, here are a few things he could do to really win me over. I'll be generous. He can pick any three (and number 10 should be considered a freebie):

1) Repudiate McCain-Feingold as a failure and probably unconstitutional.
2) Repudiate McCain-Kennedy as ill-conceived amnesty.
3) Repudiate amnesty and taxpayer support for illegals.
4) Sponsor or support legislation to update or correct the 14th Amendment that has become a cruel lure for illegal immigrants.
5) Admit error and support up/down votes for judges.
6) Support Gitmo and intense interrogation of terrorist detainees.
7) Repudiate unscientific Global Warming hysteria and legislation.
8) Remove all unnecessary federal obstacles to energy independence.
9) Support the elimination or drastic reduction of foreign aid and UN.
10) Select a suitable VP soon because of age and health concerns.

McCain as much as admitted today he's rightly earned the mistrust of conservatives but vows he will stay (or become) true to traditional conservative principles. With the open path he now has for the nomination, will this moment make the man? I certainly hope so--MK--

BOOOOO! hahah
The crowd sure made their feelings known. McCain supporters did their best to drown the boos out.

If your state primary or caucus is still upcoming, vote Romney. What can it hurt? Don't stay home. My state (Washington) has a caucus is Saturday and everyone I know is voting Romney, same for the primary on the 19th. Send a message that we will not support McCain.

Write in Romney
I like the idea. Not sure if my state allows it. Pretty sure they don't. We vote by marking a ballot and sticking it in a machine reader.

How is McCain going to reduce corporate taxes with a democratic congress. Not going to happen. His pledge to veto any legislation with an earmark is laughable. He doesn't have the guts to stick with it after the media lambaste him for shutting down government and congress refuses to send a bill to his desk without earmarks. Enough nit picking though. I don't believe most of what he said. I fully expected him to say all that stuff since he knows he must. He is probably chortling to himself right now wondering if enough people bought it.

He has been a lukewarm conservative from the beginning. His slide to the left has been steady and deliberate over his 24 years. All the name calling in the world by republicans in name only will not convince me to vote for him. The same divide in the country that separates capitalists from communists, liberty lovers from tyrants is occuring within the republican party. It must not be allowed.

Libs like Will love him. He is already half-way to the dark side. They love all moderates knowing that the battle has been won for their hearts and all that remains is slowly dragging them the rest of the way to totalitarianism, for the good of the little people of course.

Something tells me that the war in Iraq
will not be a "winning" issue for republicans in the general election, 2008. The drum has already been beaten too loudly; there is not enough evidence of "success" for the investment the american people have made (in cash, in blood) to make the case to "stay the course".. A surge that is "working" means precisely nothing when the Iraqi government continues to be so ineffectual & weak.

It's like the billions of dollars we've funneled Pakistan's way. Musharraf is a conman. He is playing both sides, all sides (he is appeasing the Taliban & appeasing the militants in the hills giving Bin Laden sanctuary, appeasing his own Pakistani military, appeasing President Bush & the american people).

No, after more than a half decade of war & almost 2 trillion dollars spent, you'd like to see something to show for it. The middle east is more radicalized towards americans; Afghanistan is back to being Taliban country again (& a greater theocracy now than when we arrived).

Beat the continual war drums again & Obama can beat old man McCain by virtue of sheer youth & eloquence & a message of hope.

By the way, Obama raised $7.2 million SINCE TUESDAY, in a 36-hour period. That's astonishing (no conservative can come even close). He raised $32 million in January (Hillary raised a record $13 million in January, but was force to write herself a $5 million "loan" check to be able to compete with Barack for advertising in the Super Tuesday states). I thought americans would never break out of their subconscious racisms to vote for Barack, but now I am starting to re-think this. Maybe America IS ready for an african-american president. Stranger things have happened...

A Traitor

Conservatives “do not” write bills that take away your freedom of speech. Traitors do.

Conservatives “do not” write bills that give illegal invaders amnesty. Traitors do.

Conservatives “do not” ignore their sworn oaths to defend and protect the Constitution of the USA. Traitors do.

John McCain is a TRAITOR to the USA and should be brought up on charges of treason and given the highest sentence as allowed by our laws.


Does this man look Presidential?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CazKanlYDg&

I think not!

Time for
real conservatives to unite behind the pro-defense, pro-life, pro-gun nominee. Liberal democrats and their hidden allies on the extreme right fringe (amazing how extremes have similar agendas) will do their best by design or default to elect a Obama or Clinton. America cannot afford that.

No True Republican Running

"The anti-McCain carping here reflects a political immaturity and stupidity that will only serve to aid the Democrats" ... Phil Byler

It is sad you are unable to recognize we have a Communist and a Traitor running and not a Communist and a Republican running.

STRAIGHT TALK IS CHEAP
Sen. McClinton can't fool me, he talks a straight game, but his actions are with forked-tongue

Good lord
It's a fine speech. A tad bland, I admit. What would seal the deal for McCain, I think, would be promising to secure the borders, and not to reform the immigration system, but to expand ICE (Immigration Customs Enforcement). If he would move that far, I think McCain would gain an overwhelming amount back of the Conservative support he's lost. Not all of it, mind you, but probably 4/5ths of it bare minimum.

Rush Says He’ll Fundraise For Hillary
FROM HIS SHOW TODAY!

RUSH: All right, folks, I need to ask you a question, personal question from me to you. Do I sound like I need cheering up here? I’m getting e-mails from friends, “Boy, you sound like you could use a little cheering up.” And they’re sending me these stupid little Internet jokes, “for you to smile,” like an Internet joke would cheer me up. Spam would cheer me up. But do I sound like I need to be cheered up? I can’t wait ’til the Drive-Bys get hold of my thought, my consideration of helping Hillary raise money. They’ll miss the reason. They’ll just publicize, “Limbaugh is so upset at Romney getting out, he’s thinking of raising money for Hillary, period.”

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/limbaugh-says-hell -fundraise-for-hillary

Might consider McCain IF...
He fires Juan Hernandez.
Admits that Juan Hernandez is a joke.
Apologizes for his McAmnesty bill.
Apologizes for turning his back on the GOP.
Promises to finish the wall and end entitlements to illegals.

Then...maybe.....

I Am One Of Those Conservatives That
said that I would never vote for McCain under any circumstances. I express my thanks to the honorable Mitt Romney for being the class act that he is and reminding me that even though McCain is slimy and a hopeless Washington insider that will continue the as is policies of the Washington establishment, I must vote for McCreap in November.

It is my patriotic duty to support the war on terror and support the military men and women who are so valiantly fighting for freedom and liberty. McCain talked the good conservative talk today but he is and will continue to be a liar and disingenuous. Did any one notice that he pledged to "secure the border" but still did not and will not commit to rid the nation of the lawbreaker illegal aliens.

Don't ever buy the McLiberal claim that we can do nothing about the 20 million illegals in this country. Arizona recently passed laws to make it difficult for illegals to work there and the illegals are leaving Az in floods to Texas. Take away their ability to work and they will go home on their own.

In short, I will hold my nose and vote for McShame but will continue to work for conservative values as best I can in the future.

McCain DOES NOT "GET IT"
WE want the illegals OUT

NO Amnesty under any conditions:

NOW McCain is begging

WELL, we want to see it in black and white

HOW about he sponsor a senate bill before he
leaves just to show we can trust him this
time

HE NEEDS to sponsor a bill on every point he
made today:

John: If you want my vote
If John McCain is really serious about getting my vote, I would make the following suggestions.

1. Take immigration seriously. Address the people who over stay their visas. Don't give special treatment to those who illegals who are already here. Stop the hiring of illegals. You can do this without offending the Hispanics.

2. Amend the worst parts of campaign finance reform. Change the parts that violate my free speech rights and make it an incumbent protection act.

3. Support or at least do not appose (promise to sign) the marriage amendment if it gets to your desk.

4. Openly admit that most (not all) Global Warming is part of a natural cycle and not caused by us. In addressing the part that may be man made, don' do something radical and stupid that will hurt America.

5. If you want to be the candidate of change, try changing a few of your past mistakes and make some moves in the right direction. You do not have to move all of the way but please make some moves in the right direction.

WRITE the BILLS NOW JOHN SENATOR
well

nice speech: so how is it that he could
NOT
sponsor or write ONE BILL to support just even ONE OF HIS POINTS: as that all
powerful senator in the past 25 years:

NOW HE GOT "RELIGION" on the critical issues

He had his chances on Taxes
that obscene energy tax working its way through
now with his name on it:

HOW CAN WE BELIEVE this liar

The amnesty plan...

Reagan gave amnesty... and didn't close the border.

Bush Sr.... didn't close the border.

Clinton... didn't close the border.

Bush W... didn't close the border (supported amnesty)

McCain... will close the border (supports amnesty)

Sounds like McCain is the most Conservative on closing the border so far.


My theory...
Why do the neo-cons really hate McCain?

It's because every time they look at McCain, they are reminded that while McCain was wasting away in a POW camp, their little overgrown frat boy was so stoned out of his mind that he couldn't even dare show up for his April 1972 physical.

Take a good, long look at McCain: look at the face of a true American hero, a real man. Then look at the droopy-eyed failure you people have hitched your star to.

Well done, GOP!

Great speech!! Here's my suggestion...
Senator McCain, I am conservative and I am a Republican. I liked the speech. I disagree with some on this website and some of the talking heads. I believe that you have done the work all these years and will earn the nomination through that hard work. I believe that your campaigning for President Bush in the past should earn you the support of the Republican Party, and that it should not be a one way street for the so called "true" conservatives". Even if they believe you are "liberal", which seems strange to me when we think of people that live in Berkeley as liberal, you have a right to your opinions and stances, as well as your attempted solutions to difficult problems. Notably, President Bush did not veto the legislation you co-sponsored.
My Suggestion to unite the Party for a win in November is to ask Mitt Romney to be your runing mate, and ask Huckabee to be in your cabinet. Please consider this a Pearl if you want to be in the WhiteHouse next year.

Listen, maybe McCain doesn't need
"hardcore" conservative to win. Mainstream conservatives, liberal conservatives, independants, some democrats: All can be brought into the fold.

I've been looking over his record & there is quite a lot to recommend McCain to a moderate/liberal audience:

1. He's great friends with Russ Feingold, Nancy Pelosi, Joe Lieberman & Ted Kennedy.

2. Writing legislation regarding global warming with Joe Lieberman, McCain said: "We continue to learn more about the science of climate change and the dangerous precedence of not addressing the environmental problem. The science tells us that ungent and significant action is needed" (sidenote: Feb 1, 2007: McCain & Schwarzenegger called for a nationwide roll-out of California's new low carbon fuel standard).

3.McCain said if he were President, he would transform the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency into new Cabinet Departments.

4. McCain is a member of The Republican Main Street Partnership and supports embryonic stem cell research.

5. McCain has received fair to poor ratings on gun issues from the NRA, garnering a C+ (he has something for everyone in his record).

6. John McCain's 2006 rating by the Almanac of American Politics (2008) on Social Policy is 46% conservative, 53% liberal.

7. John McCain's immigration policies have earned him a D grade from Americans for a Better Immigration (John is for secure the borders now; then we'll talk amnesty).

8. Waterboarding is torture: McCain argues that the Bush administration's policy will put American prisoners at risk of torture, summary executions, an other atrocities by chipping away at the Geneva Conventions.


You know, one hell of a commercial could be put together for the "blue" states. Focus on the above poilcy positions & keep streaming photos of John and Rudy and Arnold smiling, John and Ted smiling, John and Russ shaking hands, John and Nancy...

There is another conservative out there
Well, to all of you Romney supporters, I say come give Mike Huckabee another look when you quit licking your wounds. He is still running and could win this nomination. He has gotten far with many obstacles and the MSM and Talk Radio against him. I respected Romney and appreciated his speech today and these are the views the Huckabee supporters have also. SS

Respect Romney?? R U Kidding?
The "true" conservatives who would rather see the country fall deeper into socialism by electing the party of "true" liberal Berkeley types, rather than support their nominee, Senator McCain, was real slow to support Romney. They were hoping for someone else, like Thompson who didn't wake up until the 4th or 5th debate, and the talkingheads were slow to get on the bandwagon. Hannity was singing the praises of a liberal Rudy G for a long time before he went to Romney.
Romney put his money where his mouth is. If you really respect him, then send him some money to bring down his contibution to the conservative agenda, AND do what he suggests, support the nominee against the democrats, so the fight against the Islamic terrorists continues. Show some Respect!!!

Andrew
Should we also send money to the defense funds for the terrorists that Mr. tough on terrorism McCain wants to allow to sue our government in our courts?

Andrew
Should we also send money to the defense funds for the terrorists that Mr. tough on terrorism McCain wants to allow to sue our government in our courts?

Andrew
Should we also send money to the defense funds for the terrorists that Mr. tough on terrorism McCain wants to allow to sue our government in our courts?

It was not CPAC you were addressing
Who in the world did you think you were fooling with that bogus speech. You weren't addressing the Conservatives, but everyone else who wasn't a Conservatives. You still haven't learned your lesson. Conservatives want to know their voting for a Conservative. All you did was take the opportunity to address the weak Republicans who think as you do, the Democrats, the uninformed Independents, and the media. The appeal you speak of, which you don't deny was create by you and you alone. No one in talk radio, no Republican, no Conservative is responsible for the way Conservatives feel about you. You have done nothing, but confirmed that there is a liberal wing of the Republican party. Only now, do you attack Hillary and Obama. Where were the attacks before. There were none because in your eyes, Mitt was the enemy and not the Democrats. You speak of uniting the party as if you had nothing to do with dividing them. Didn't it ever occur to you that by being a Maverick was creating a division in the party. You are no true Conservative, so stop trying to act and speak like one. Speak in the liberal tone and terminology Conservatives are used to hearing from you when you speak of Republicans.

I'm a Maverick too
"I am sure that Senator Clinton would make a good President." -- John McCain

Maybe I should be a Maverick and reach across the aisle to vote for Mrs. Clinton. After all, she has already been nominated by Senator McCain.


Maverick
Did you actually hear the speach? It was great, he got booed on the part about him having differences of opinion with them.

Correction
I meant endorsed, not nominated

Richard, don't be a .....Richard.
I do not agree with McCain on his stance on closing the base, but his view of imprisonment and what constitutes torture in war time were influenced by his service to his country, which I highly respect. Please quote him exactly on his stance on the base and let's debate it. Before we get to that though, what did you think about the US policy of taking Japanese-Americans and putting them in camps in WW2 without due process?

Sigh...
Go ahead, abstain from voting for McCain and elect President Barack Hussein Obama, the #1 ranked liberal Senator in DC. Then do not complain when you get liberal federal court appointments, increased taxes, progressive social engineering, amnesty, open borders, pro-abortion legislation, tea and crumpets diplomacy, weakened military structure, large federal government, socialism, government-run health care, expanded rights for illegal immigrants, enhanced affirmative action programs and policies, weakened 2nd Amendment rights, secular-progressive system of government....

poot--is it possible that...
Is it possible that he was being smart during that interview to not tick off the woman voters he will be asking for support of in the future? She would make a good president, BUT these are the problems that I see with her stances on... Is it possible that McCain is playing his political hand correctly? Who is about to be the nominee? McCain or Poot?

THANK YOU TAMPA DAVE!!!
Perfectly said.

Apples and Oranges
The Japanese-Americans were Americans and committed no crimes and made no hostile acts. The thugs that you and McCain want to give due process to were captured in the conduct of war. They are terrorists and do not even meet the criteria for POW status. At best they should be tried by military tribunals. Like the ones Roosevelt used in WWII.

I do not believe that war veteran or hero status automatically confers a candidate with the qualifications to be President or even a Senator. McCain demonstrates well how a war experience can cause a person to become weak and fearful of pulling the trigger when needed. I can understand that his personal experience causes his to abhor any torture. But pouring water up a guys nose is nothing like the torture he endured. I think his weakness, brought on by his past experience, makes him unqualified to be the commander in chief. I would glady exchange the comfort of some terrorist thug for lives of Americans.

Apples and Oranges
The Japanese-Americans were Americans and committed no crimes and made no hostile acts. The thugs that you and McCain want to give due process to were captured in the conduct of war. They are terrorists and do not even meet the criteria for POW status. At best they should be tried by military tribunals. Like the ones Roosevelt used in WWII.

I do not believe that war veteran or hero status automatically confers a candidate with the qualifications to be President or even a Senator. McCain demonstrates well how a war experience can cause a person to become weak and fearful of pulling the trigger when needed. I can understand that his personal experience causes his to abhor any torture. But pouring water up a guys nose is nothing like the torture he endured. I think his weakness, brought on by his past experience, makes him unqualified to be the commander in chief. I would glady exchange the comfort of some terrorist thug for lives of Americans.

What's going on?
Is anyone else having problems with posting? I hit post and the whole thing disappears. When I try to post again it comes up posted two or three times.

Andrew
Gosh, I never thought of it that way. I guess I shouldn't have an opinion since I'm not about to be nominated for president. I guess I should just shut my mouth. I guess if McCain has problems with her stances, maybe he shouldn't say that she would make a good president. Maybe Mr. Straight Talk shouldn't try to pander to female voters.

How enlightened you are! What would McCain do without you to explain to us what we heard with our own ears.

McCain is a detestible little troll who cannot be trusted. The only problem is that Hillary is worse and Obama is inexperienced and extremely liberal.

Sorry dude, I'm not buying what you have to sell.

What's going on?
Is anyone else having problems with posting? I hit post and the whole thing disappears. When I try to post again it comes up posted two or three times.

What's going on?
Is anyone else having problems with posting? I hit post and the whole thing disappears. When I try to post again it comes up posted two or three times.

What's going on?
Is anyone else having problems with posting? I hit post and the whole thing disappears. When I try to post again it comes up posted two or three times.

Apples, Oranges, Bananas, Pears
They are all fruit. The point, I have none.. No, I am kidding. Due Process is the principle that ties the 2 together.
I do not disagree with water-boarding when needed and under the right circumstances, but to say that McCain is weak because he believes in a principle and stance that you disregard so easily is intellectually dishonest.
Let's not forget that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Put that power in the hands of the wrong person unchecked, and the next thing you know, guys by the name of Richard are "terrorists" and they have water going up the nose.
Is it possible for 2 patriotic Americans to apply 2 different substantive principles to the same question, and arrive at a different conclusion? Something to think about.

Richard
Try reloading, even going to another page and coming back. I had the same problem, but I assure you it's getting through...in triplicate!

I've said it before . . . .
and I'll say it again:

Sometimes you need to get a little taste of a Carter to get a Reagan.

If this country can survive Jimmy Carter, we can sure as hell survive Hillary or Obama. I have a lot of faith in this country. When Reagan was elected it was when the country finally stood up and rejected the doped-up burn-outs from the sixties and seventies. The country finally said it was time to grow up. With the slow slide to the Left by the Republican party, it's like a slow bleed.

I do not support voting for a Democrat, but I cannot support McCain either. It will only reward his treachery and undermining of the Conservative Movement. It will encourage more like him. It's time to purge this cancer or abandon the party and form a new one that is founded on solid, unwavering, conservative principles.

So because thou art lukewarm...
...and neither hot nor cold, I will spew thee out of my mouth.

Of course, I could have never said it better.

McCain is a Conservative
McCain's record is conservative on...

National defense.
Pro-life.
Small government.
Cutting government spending.
Consistent opposition to tax increases.

That's about it, but those are large enough litmus test type issues, that McCain can be, and should be, considered a conservative.

Romney still a factor
I just heard Orrin Hatch say that Romney's votes will still matter....he just suspended his campaign.
So, let's give him more!!!
Vote for mitt!

Poot--Are you Ok?
I didn't say that you shouldn't have an opinion, but you might not have considered the tactic behind the statement.

As to the "treachery", is it possible that the Republican Party might have people with different ideas that do not march in lock step? He supported President Bush in 2000 & 2004 by campaigning for him. It is a 2 way street to be a member of a political party.

I would suggest lobbying McCain to put Romney on the ticket. It is a lot less destructive than your idea.

My childrens future hangs in the balance
SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN AND HOUSE MINORITY LEADER RICHARD GEPHARDT TO BE HONORED AT 1999 NCLR CAPITAL AWARDS

http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/2178/

Jun 7, 2004, SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN TO PROVIDE KEYNOTE ADDRESS AT NCLR ANNUAL CONFERENCE

http://www.nclr.org/content/news/detail/2649/

John McCain: La Raza’s voice in Washington
By Michelle Malkin • February 4, 2008 01:46 PM

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/04/john-mccain-la-razas-v oice-in-washington/

Good speech, OK candidate
Our GOP presidential hopeful made a fine speech. It's to be expected these myriad malcontents will scoff. They expected their rightful Pie In the Sky, even from somebody painfully truthful.

I just marvel at how many hard-headed Republicans in our midst glory in their less than awesome aura of "conservatism," at least here in this thread.

I can forgive Sean Hannity and Rush; their vested interest is principled enough; they think we NEED them to lead the conservative spearhead. But nobody here in this column is a leader. Why rasp on and on, repeating all those boring cliches ? McCain is an honest Republican.

Here you all are giving John McCain a cockeyed ultimatum and litmus test, as if he needs your input to lead a nation of free people. Your vainglory and self-importance is truly satanic. Andrew 1218: NO, Romney is no Republican VP in our ticket. He's unqualified. The people KNOW this.

Will: "Hardcore" is more the PORN industry; HARD-LINE is a political stance. (Easy to guess where you picked up your vocabulary.)

Poot: Get a LIFE. You are no conservative. Next to you, John McCain is John the Baptist, and you are a wannabee Herodias; IMHO. All the right JERKS are anti-McCain. That means he'll become a fine President of our country.

No. Absolutely not. Part I
I am *so pissed.* Duncan Hunter is/was my man. Naturally, he didn't get ANY coverage as he was one of the only real conservatives running. He's gone. I warmed to Thompson because he seemed conservative. He’s gone. I was working on my way to Guiliani, and then somehow we get to Huckabee, Romney, and McCain. Huckabee is a liberal and a liar. As I was considering the idea of voting for Romney because AT LEAST he's accomplished fiscally, and I could maybe get a fiscal conservative in the White House, he “suspends his campaign.”

Now I'm left with McCain as my likely nominee. McCain of the “let's limit free speech McCain-Feingold Bill”... McCain of the “let's make alien criminals citizens because they should be Americans too Kennedy-McCain Bill”... McCain of the Gang of Fourteen that opposed Bush's conservative judge nomination... McCain who sided with the general liberal opinion about Rumsfeld and the war. McCain who tells me that I need to "reach out" to him as a viable candidate, even though he isn't conservative. McCain who has had so many years in the Senate to prove his conservative record, but always seems make a record that isn't conservative.

What really makes me angry...McCain tells Republicans that we need to shut our mouths, that we need to learn to get along with him, that for "party unity" we need to put aside our differences with McCain's moderate tendencies.

Why can’t you, sir, learn to work with YOUR OWN PARTY? Why can't you work with us? Why do you tell us to side with you, when you side with the Democrats over us? Why are you asking that of us (party loyalty) which you can't do YOURSELF?

Adair

McCain
You can put all the lipstick on this pig you want. I am conservative and still will not vote for McCain the two faced liberal

Dread--How is Romney unqualified as a VP
After you answer that, who is a good VP then that will unify the Party against the dems?

So what do we do, folks?
I am heartened by reading all of the comments here, though.

Are we going to write someone in? Or do we just say good-bye to the (RHINO) Republican Party?

Who are we supposed to support now? Where's our next conservative leader?

Any of you over 35 and willing to be a little busy for the next four years or so?

Adair

Most reactions here are of vile hate
I am getting tired of trying to explain to conservative simpletons here of how McCain is better than Hillbama. What is it going to take? One poster here posted (MK) 10 disagreements he has with McCain,... and then he will consider voting for McCain. Why does he have to endorse EVERY conservative stance that exists? Can't he differ a little? His lifetime ratings is 82%,... 82%! Let me make that simple of you, you agree about 8 times and disagree 2 times out of every 10. Hillbama is about 0 or 1 time out of 10. How does that suit you?

I do disagree with McCain on certain issues and hope he will "see the light" on those disagreements. I am not conservative on EVERY issue but I am a conservative. Hell, here it looks like all you have to do is take a few non-conservative stances and you are a Michael Moore.

Think of 9/11, your taxes, your children, your freedom, your way of life,... do you really want Hillbama to have govermental influance on that while McCain would have help you and our country?

excuse, me mr cam
This terrible burden of 9 billion a month "spent on Iraq" is a pittance if it can ensure for America the lessened risks of everlasting Jihad we were promised by al Qaeda; something you seem to think is imaginary.

It is also a healthy portion of our own national economy; since it is spent on the salaries and upkeep of our armed forces. They spend it here; not out in the desert. --NOR will we be in this for 100 years ! That is mere hyperbole; Balderdash ! As for the specter of deficits, NO; with reduced spending here on the earmarks McCain wants to eliminate; plus low taxation and a productive, thriving business sector, deficits over the next years will probably shrink.

They already did, and remarkably so with Bush's tax reform; despite the out of control spending. VOTE for McCain , Cam!

Not impressed with McCain
I’m a Huckabee supporter, and if you think we’ve got some kind of alliance with McCain you’re about to find out the truth. We’re ready to take McCain on head to head. I could tell Tuesday night that McCain was not going to be conciliatory at CPAC, and he was not going to solidify Conservative support. I watched McCain’s speech live at CPAC, and it was just as I expected. He talked in a quiet tone to try and sound humble, but you could see the real McCain just underneath. His attempts at humor fell short and at times came across as condescending. I could immediately tell that the cheers he was getting were “plants” because they sounded like they were coming from the same people each time. Also it was a dead give-away when the conference attendees started booing McCain on immigration, and then all of a sudden these were these cheers from the same group who had been cheering. I knew right then McCain had brought people in, and he wasn’t doing as well as it looked like he was.

Sure enough I saw Tom Delay being interviewed, and he said all the cheers were coming from 500 college kids that the McCain campaign had brought in, and that the reception from the actual Conference members wasn’t all that good. I’m amazed that very few media outlets and especially Fox isn’t covering this. Not even TownHall bloggers seem to be talking about this.

This is not over!
Everyone is saying that this is over, and this is not over! It’s true that it’s almost mathematically impossible for Huckabee to get to 1191, BUT it is not mathematically impossible to keep McCain from 1191. If Huckabee can gain some momentum and pick up some wins this coming week, and then do well in Ohio and Texas, you could see the Anti-McCain forces joining together. McCain has a bad temper, and if he loses some of these upcoming states he may start to get testy publicly and start to say some things that gets him in trouble.

Under ordinary circumstances this would not be doable, BUTTTTTT Mike Huckabee is one of the best Campaigners I’ve ever seen, ANDDDD McCain is one of the weakest ones I’ve ever seen. It’s a long shot, but it’s doable.

Also let me say to Romney folks that your guy did a good job today in his speech. I’ve been highly critical of Romney, but he had a good day today.

Later to Talk Radio
Good bye Talk Radio--Back to R & R!!
In a way, I will be happy again listening to music. For years, I have agreed with Rush, Sean, Marc and the beautiful Ann & Laura. Their main themes that made them a fortune, the Clinton machine is bad for America, in a nutshell. Now, they are leading us down the path of another 8 yrs of Clinton and 8 of Obama, or vice versa. Enjoy all that money talk radio heads!! Now, since it seems that the party will be fractured and the "true" conservatives will stay home or vote for hillary, I can stop caring about talk radio. This is my take.
McCain campaigned for President Bush after he lost his bid for the nomination. A political party has a wide range of people and differing views on how to solve complex issues. I am a Republican because I can handle the "liberal" Rudy G or moderate McCain. I can't handle the Hillary or the Berkeley types, so I am not a dem.
Senator McCain worked for years for this nomination. Anyone could see he was going to run. Did the "true" conservatives run a candidate against him of substance years ago in Arizona? No. Did the conservatives do the leg work in places like NH? No. McCain put in the hard work and also helped get the President elected. The Republican party should be a 2 way street, not just libs and mods helping the Conservatives. He got the job done. Tip your hat to that, and then work harder for your candidate next time. Defeat the Dems and Lobby McCain to have Romney as VP.

Not Impressed
I’m a Huckabee supporter, and we’re ready to take McCain on head to head. I could tell Tuesday night that McCain was not going to be conciliatory at CPAC, and he was not going to solidify Conservative support. I watched McCain’s speech live at CPAC, and it was just as I expected. He talked in a quiet tone to try and sound humble, but you could see the real McCain just underneath. His attempts at humor fell short and at times came across as condescending. I could immediately tell that the cheers he was getting were “plants” because they sounded like they were coming from the same people each time. Also it was a dead give-away when the conference attendees started booing McCain on immigration, and then all of a sudden these were these cheers from the same group who had been cheering. I knew right then McCain had brought people in, and he wasn’t doing as well as it looked like he was.

Sure enough I saw Tom Delay being interviewed, and he said all the cheers were coming from 500 college kids that the McCain campaign had brought in, and that the reception from the actual Conference members wasn’t all that good. I’m amazed that very few media outlets and especially Fox isn’t covering this. Not even TownHall bloggers seem to be talking about this.

Enough!
I listened to McCain, and I did not believe him. His words do not align with his past actions. If he were honest, he would admit that he is actually a left-wing democrat, and change his party affiliation.
So if I don't compromise my principles, again, and vote for Johnny McCain, Egotist, Arizona, for President, I will get a self-styled "liberal" as President. But if McCain is elected, I will get an arrogant "liberal" as President. If we are going to get a democrat-in-fact, then it might as well be a member of the Democrat party, so that when they capitulate to the Islamists, let the illegals overrun the country, and wreck the economy with higher taxes and soviet style economic foolishness, they get the blame.
I have bought the proposition that any so-called Republican is better than a Democrat once too often. The last time, I helped re-elect a President who doesn't know on which side of the Rio Grande the people he works for live. Enough!

McCain is still for amnesty
I'm a Huckabee supporter, and we have been civil toward McCain. But....there are some vast differences.

McCain and Giuliani both made it clear in debates that they are still for some kind of path to citizenship. The ONLY thing that's changed is they now say they'll secure the border first. We all know how that will turn out. They'll have some kind of arbitrary benchmark set up to say the border is ok, and then they'll go ahead with a basic amnesty plan.

Also on taxes, it's been made clear that his opposition to the Bush Tax Cuts in 2001 was based on his principles that tax cuts shouldn't go to the wealthy and hadn't nothing to do with spending. The last time we had a Republican President who was not solid on taxes was George Bush SR., and we saw how that turned out.

Do not give up the fight! Huckabee can keep McCain away from the 1191 he needs, and we can make a deal at the convention. I won't say that Huckabee would put Romney on the ticket, but I'm sure there is someone both sides could agree on. Maybe Duncan Hunter or Newt?

Dear Andrew 1218:
Your questions:

Is Romney qualified ?

He isn't; because his name on the GOP ticket will not bring us the necessary votes in the 2008 election. It's plain by the woeful results (for such a ponderous amount of money he invested up till now) so far seen in his campaign. He certainly won't gain much in the south, which is always crucual for the GOP. I'm not saying he's not a fine man. It's the TICKET we must consider.

Do I know who should be McCain's running mate ? Hardly; but maybe it ought to be a southerner, at least. Michael Steele comes to mind; he's a black conservative, excellent VP material. Who do we know in Texas ? TEXAS MUST fall to the GOP in November ! I would love to see a Republican woman, to counter the Hildbeast; yet I can't imagine who. But nobody from the Blue states; where Hillary is a shoo-in. It must be someone who really moves the ticket UP.

Dear Dr. Dread
I don't disagree with your analysis on Romney, BUT I think people were starting to get to know him better. I believe the focus went to some non-starters like Rudy G & Thompson. I like Michael Steele when I see him on Fox, but I don't know enough about him.
Do you think southerners were reluctant on Romney because he is a mormon, or was it because they liked Huckabee better, or both?
I think after Huckabee and Romney garnered all those votes that they should be in McCain's cabinet in some way. I still think Romney for VP at this point because he has the name recognition and I don't know of anyone else that might get the base going.

Dear Walter Can
If I were you, the conservative with an axe to grind (illegal aliens)

I'd worry more about stopping the Democrats than about boosting Mike Huckabee. He will NEVER beat out Hillary or Obama. Anyway; one lesson we learned last time-- Forget about Arkansas. ONCE was quite enough ! That's the state of the famed Arkansas Babbler, Bill Clinton.

Nothing is less interesting to the voter at large than a minor-league minister from Little Rock. This guy is something of a babbler too. It must be their water. Hillary would tear him to pieces, IMHO.

dread
I'm not a Tancredo type on illegals, but I just think that as long as we keep sending signals that we're eventually going to do amnesty again that it's going to be impossible to secure the border. It's like trying to stop water from going downhill.

I'm not going to respond the criticism of Huckabee because we've been marginalized and counted out so many times that it's getting comical. I do admit though that we have to produce wins for people to take us serious. We have to win Kansas Saturday, and we have to win Virginia Tuesday. If we do that though and maybe even win some of the others on those two days then we could build some momentum heading into Ohio and Texas.

one more reply--Andrew:
I hate to say so; but Yeah. In the Bible Belt, a Baptist clergyman and the fundies are TIGHT, Man ! Whereas; to a vast number of fundamentalists, Mormonism is unholy by definition. They can be very fanatical. Not all; naturally.

But when everything depends on whipping up the vote, it is essential to bring them out in droves. And no Mormon would, sad to say.

McCain's expedience
This guy is a power crazed elitist megalomaniac.

Consider:

1) McCain/Feingold shuts everyone up prior to an election except the media, giving it inordinate election leverage via mass information distribution at the critical moment when most people begin to pay attention to the political process and to evaluate candidates.

2) He takes positions and associates with liberal politicians that guarantee that the leftist media will give him the most attention and discuss him in the most favorable light. His positions, invariably, are those that oppose conservatives and republicans but, in general, liberals would support.

Thus the media conferred 'maverick' tag - McCain can take a large amount of the credit for the fact that since 1994, Congressional republicans, though holding majorities or near majorities in both houses, and even the presidency for the last seven years, have managed to get pitifully little to nothing useful, conservative-wise done.

Santorum is right: over the last decade, this GOP 'maverick' has shamelessly promoted himself via a third party (i.e. the media/John McCain party), to the point that he will become the presidential candidate of a legitimate political party, a good portion of which fears, loathes and despises him.

Destiny
John McCain was destined to be the Republican's presidential nominee, and possibly the next U.S. president. Like the New York Giants which won the recent Super Bowl, he was the underdog among leading contenders. In fact, just a few months ago, McCain's campaign was considered dead. He was running out of money and support. He was definitely not the favorite among the conservative rank-and-file. McCain's opponents on the right, both within the media and in government, were very vocal in their opposition to him. Nevertheless, he trudged along despite the odds against him. With determination and some breaks, McCain has now achieved what was destined to be his all along: the Republican presidential nomination. Now, the nation faces some very unique and historic choices -- possibly electing the first female president, the first black president, or the eldest president who had relatively no initial support from his party's base. We're living in interesting times indeed. I don't believe in coincidences or luck alone...Perhaps the current conditions and season is just the right one for McCain -- our future president?


"And it is He who changes the times and the epochs; He removes kings and establishes kings; He gives wisdom to wise men, and knowledge to men of understanding" (Daniel 2:21

A call of duty
What is the difference between John McCain and Mitt Romney? Well, as I see it, one acted with true class, the other gave a speech that was so unbelievable that, it was clear the speaker did not believe it himself. One seemed old and tired the other fresh and renewed. One seemed presidential; the other seemed like a panderer that could not even pander properly. How can conservatives embrace John McCain with open arms when every time we opened those arms, he tried to cut them off? Answer me, how can a one-legged stool stand through wind and trial? It cannot. McCain will lose the nomination. His blessed independents will leave him blowing in the wind, his supposed Reagan democrats (as if they exist anymore); will not be there for him, the loving MSM will disown him quicker than a scorned woman. He will not stand, and in four years, Romney will pick up the pieces of this broken party like a Phoenix and bring us to reason. Until that day, you John McCain supporters, like a broke jock strap can keep your "Calm Down" comments to yourselves.

A call of duty p2
Today my party has left me; I did not leave my party. John McCain has started a firestorm that will only continue to burn hotter and hotter. To quote the famous line from the movie Network and the character of Howard Beale played by Peter Finch: "I'M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE." If any of you McCain lame brains tells me to calm down, or to drink my Kool-aid, I will simply do everything in my power to make sure that John McCain does not get the presidency, if you want me voting for him, shut the hell up. We do not care what you liberals and moderates think, we think of you as a disease that needs to be removed from our party like cancer from the body; we are disgusted with your lies, your double talk and your destruction of our party. If you want to be liberals, that is fine, go do it in somebody else's party and leave mine alone. If you want McCain Feingold, Lieberman, Kennedy, etc. Become Democrats. Stop bringing us down. I will not tolerate you anymore; the party must be cleansed of your disease!

Good Speech Mac
Mac, don't move too far right or you lose the middle and the independents who got you this far. As conservative as I am I have enough since to read the stats and see it will take a moderate to win this year. For every crybaby conservative who sits out the election, (or votes for Hillary like Coulter), that many independents will be won over, especially after the jihad breaks out with Hillary and Obama. There will be blood.

Why does this have an
average 3 after 87 comments? Come on people let's get with the ones.

Solid "B+" speech.
Overall, very good speech.

Especially refreshing is his frankness in noting mistakes in the past...his imperfections...an essential component of genuine conservatism...acknowledgement of man's inate imperfection.

McCain's general thesis of the necessity to return to small government seems genuine. Certainly no conservative would argue with that. Even non-conservative ideologues like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck would not take issue with that.

One cautionary note for me is his firm advocacy for the "Rights of Man everywhere in the World...and that(for man)to be denied liberty is an offense to nature and to nature's Creator".

Our nation was founded on individual liberty. Where applicable, we should encourage others to adopt liberty...BUT we must never encourage the adoption of liberty or freedom on peoples whose cultures or beliefs are incompatible with the tolerance and respect for dissent so essential to freedom-loving peoples. They must have a foundation of tolerance before the tree of liberty can flourish.

Certainly the simplistic, flawed, ill-conceived notions of the Bush administration on democratizing the muslim world has taught us that, if nothing else.

Friends, McCain quoted Edmund Burke, perhaps the greatest purveyor of conservative thought in the history of man. Burke is a true legend.

Regarding G.W. Bush's efforts on democratizing Iraq and the muslim world, I will leave you with a most relevant quotation from Edmund Burke:

"The effect of liberty on individuals is that they may do what they please; we ought to see what it will please them to do, before we risk congratulations".

I could not have said it any better.

Rest assured
At least we can now guarantee that in November we will DEFINITELY have LIBERAL in the White House no matter which party wins.

Democrat against a Democrat

By accepting the nomination you surrenderedd our countries hegemony to the Chinese. Your ambition exceeds common sense. Your attitude turns women off, your blatent falsehoods regarding fiscal restraint and sanctity of life will cause us to lose. Your speech told me what you would do as a Senator, however you are running for the Presidency. Your lack of experience tells me no reform will occur and you obstiency in granting amnesty to illegals showed me how indifferent you are to the suffering that is caused by perpetuating the incentive to come here illegally.

None of the choices - both Republican and Democrat are good for our Nation. Not only is Washington broken beyond repair but the malaise goes right down to the local level. We can look to a core group who support "indefinite" chairmanships.

What we need isn't you or Hillary or Obama. What we need is a revolution John Marshall and our founding fathers would have approved.

We need to replace just about every political party chairman and their officers and politicians on a local, state and federal level for they all function under the misguided notion that it is all about them, that they have the "best" judgement and yet they are surrendering our nation.

It is time to "reset" Americas political parties to ensure the future of our Nation because it is pattonly obvious that current leadership has lost all sense of their fiduciary duty.


Oldwcolumbia

Now that is a perfect example of the McCain intolerance to fiscal and social conservatives. He really hates them and so do you. This is why America lost yesterday.

McCain is just like any Democrat I've heard lately. Intolerance, nanny state, elitists who can't bare real differences in thought.

Republicans gave no choice to Virginia

Republican leadership also gave no choice to Virginians. Apparently Virginians can't be trusted to make the "right" choice so they took away the most competent of a host of hard "choices."

will
We have discovered a copy of obamas next speech... "I will bring change! And i hope that The change i bring will give you hope, to make the change that's needed in this hopeful, changing time! love and cotton candy for all! Oh and i may need about 20% more of your income. But i think these changes will give hope to the hopeful!Rainbows and lollypops to my enthusiastic young supporters!(don't let them know i have a 2 pack a day habit)As a strong american i will stand by your right(like me) to not salute the flag, to not where tacky flag lapel pins! Allah, oops i mean God bless America!Hope and change for hope!!!" end transcript

Your contempt for the First Amendment
Would you ever appoint judges or commission members who have any respect for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights?

I didn't think so.

McCain: Win at All Costs
McCain was a mediocre student at Annapolis and there's no evidence that he would be a great president. To the contrary I think he would destroy all the advances made by conservatives since Ronald Reagan's administration.

He is a cunning man who knows that a true conservative cannot win a presidential election. Like a golf course caddie he always knows which way the wind is blowing. There was only one Reagan and it's not likely that another charismatic figure will come along and sway an entire nation to his or her way of thinking.

Both Bushes did not have the intelligence, fortitude, or inclination to carry out the conservative program so they compromised and McCain is more like the Bushes than Reagan. After all, he has compromised his whole life to get where he is now. What does it matter to him that to obtain his goals he will blithely compromise with the Democrats and moderates and, in effect, slowly enact their liberal agenda. Like the proverbial frog, American liberties will slowly boil away under a McCain presidency while Clinton or Obama would melt down our freedoms much faster.


jerseyvet
Man, You said it!Ive been seeing some stuff about Mc Cains time as a pow, That the dems may use to swift him, God help him if it's true. It's some bad $hit! But mostly based on hearsay by guys trapped with him. I won't say what ,out of respect for his service. But you can bet your a$$ the dems are salavating. God bless brother!

Re: Lisa's comments
I agree with Lisa's comments above.

New Jersey residents are fleeing on a daily basis to neighboring states because of the crushing burden of taxes yet stupid Democrats continue to elect toadies who tax and spend, tax and spend.

The revolution has to begin at the precint level. We have to hold the feet of winning candidates to the fire. Gov. Corzine, who bought a senatorial seat and the governorship, with money earned on Wall Street now wants to sell off interstate highways in order to overcome a huge budget deficit. I know of no Democrat who has ever cut a state or nation's budget.


Talk to us
Message to McCain
Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:54 PM

Your speech at CPAC was a good start. That you spoke there at all was somewhat of a prerequisite. Now you have to go on all the talk-radio shows that you have been balking at. I'm sure it will be a more friendly audience now than it might have been yesterday, but you should expect and welcome tough questions.

Let us reason together.

http://theotherside.townhall.com/g/f5e35bc3-306a-4a35-971b- 179114ad339c

SCAMNESTY
McCain snuck into a secret meeting with 9 other Senator amnesty p1mps and they puked up the McCain-Kennedy Scamnesty Bill.

McCain says it's not amnesty because it calls for fines. McCain fails to point out that the bill reduces existing fines and provides interest-free time payments of said "fines".

ANYONE not convicted of a U.S. crime can stay and, if interested, can buy U.S. citizenship for $40 per month.

Only two weeks ago McCain stated: "My opinion on immigration is unchanged". If elected, McCain will sign this Bill when it is re-introduced.

McCain is an economic numbskull and somehow can't comprehend that his Scamnesty Bill will add over $2 Trillion in taxes to aid illegals. When passed, the number of illegals will swell to 50 million and you can bump the tax bill to $6 trillion.

we already pay the net tax bill of $20,000 per illegal family or about the cost of a new car

SCAMNESTY 2
If McCain is elected, he'll sleep all day at the White House because he'll be up all night stealing cars to give to illegal invader families. Your's is first.

McCain needs to
let us drill in ANWR...and get some nuclear power plants built!

McCain Has Destroyed The Party
And he knows it. He is NOT conservative, no matter how many times he utters the word.

He is going to give the country away to ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS just like President Bush is doing.

If I have to vote for either a self proclaimed Democrat or a Democrat running on the Republican ticket, I am going to vote for the Democrat that says he is a Democrat.

McCain might be a war hero.

So was Benedict Arnold.

SCRATCH SINGLE - PART ONE

.....Mr McCain ...

.....Your speech at CPAC got you to first base, barely ...you still have a long way to go to get to home plate...

.....First some advice from a Reagan Conservative ...stop talking about your experience in Vietnam ...I am also a Vietnam vet and I would have to hold my nose to vote for you ...Vietnam is ancient history in the minds of voters born after 1970 ...you are not going to win by comparing yourself to Reagan either ...forget the past ...Bob Dole tried to build a bridge back to WWII and Clinton creamed him with his bridge to the 21ST Century ...

.....I would like for you to explain to me why McCain/Feingold should not be repealed? ...what is your reasoning for supporting such an attack on First Amendment Rights? ...

.....What is your justification for McCain/Kennedy? ...don't you believe in the rule of law? ...we have laws on the books to cover illegal immigration ...if these laws were enforced then there would be no need for a physical barrier (fence) as there would be no incentive to enter the Country illegally ...(cont PART TWO) .....COLOSSUS

McCain
What many of us conservatives are saying to the party elite is:
"No Lucy, I won't try to kick your football again"

It would appear...
that many on TH are not sold on McCain. I am not sold on his 46% conservative record.

However; I am not at all sold on the 100% Liberal record of Hussein and Hillary. So what a body to do?

Elect more conservative Reps and Senators. That sound easy but requires much effort to get these candidates on the ballot. Too bad the dye is cast for many candidates in this election cycle.

On election day I will hold my nose and vote for McCain and pray.

Designated loser
The GOP has given up on 2008. They have decided that if they are going to lose, McCain is their man.

As Romney stated, our economy has been in a "long slide" and we are destined to become a "2nd tier" power soon.

Neither party can stop what is coming. As Bernanke testified to Congress, we would have had to reformed 10 years ago to avoid what is coming.

In Japan, when they had a similar real estate collapse, it has lasted 17 years with 80% drops in values and that was with almost zero rates.

It isn't the supply of money available but, consumers spending that will keep the economy going and they were dependent on home equity for spending above the level of their paychecks.

If American consumers start saving, like they do in other nations, we will have a depression no matter what the interest rate or stimulus package. If the government starts pumping money into infrastructure projects then maybe a recession followed by another bubble but, eventually, deficit spending and debt will catch up again and cause a new crisis and eventually one we can't get out of.

Some prominent GOP member of Congress have retired. Mitt drops out, McCain is going to be the choice?

The GOP is planning on letting the Democrats have a veto-proof Congress and the Presidency so they take the blame when the crash comes in a few years, possibly less than five even if we only have a mild recession now. With a veto or filibuster proof Congress, they will have no body to blame for not getting their policies in place they say will "save the nation."

Mitt Romney may have seen this rising crisis and decided, "not now." Let the crisis hit and the Democrats get the blame and then, the voters will remember Romney warned them this was more than a normal economic downturn. He has almost assured he will be the candidate for 2012 or 2016 if the Democrats win. He would only be 64 in 2012 and 68 in 2016.


Standing ovation
Ron Paul got much applause and a standing ovation.

Imagine that....at a conservative gathering and all.

Here's the good speach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l8AIuJJRZo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaD9oM4xQo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWlUc8ip5hc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGaZsAeMKFo

SCRATCH SINGLE - PART TWO

.....Mr. McCain ...

.....Why did you vote against drilling in Anwar? ....Anwar is a desolate wasteland and oil rigs are not destructive to the environment ...why are you against America developing our own natural resources? ...we have a 300 year supply of coal and the clean air technology to use it ...we have vast untapped natural gas fields and oil reserves that are not exploited because of Eco-nuts like the Sierra Club and our own EPA that fight the energy companies in court and force them to go overseas to get oil from our enemies ...we will never run this country on windmills, solar panels and Ethanol ...click on my name and read my blog on "The Great Ethanol Boondoggle" ...why are we not building Nuclear Power Plants? ...

.....What is your reasoning behind McCain/Lieberman? ...have you bought into the hoax of "Man Made Global Warming" ...do your realize how destructive Green Energy restrictions and regulations can be to our economy ...do you want America to become a second class industrial nation and our economy to be surpassed by China? ...

.....What is your plan to pay off the National debt and to restore the value of our dollar on world markets? ...

.....Do you support Federalism and States Rights? ...would you appoint Justices that would overturn Roe and return the issue back to the States? ...would you be willing to take on the unions in the public sector and and support a National Right to Work Law? ...would you be willing to shut down the Federal Department of Education and return education back to the States? ...(cont PART THREE) .....COLOSSUS


SCRATCH SINGLE - PART THREE

.....Mr. McCain ...

.....With the one exception of his foreign policy, only Ron Paul seemed to be committed to following the Constitution ...would you allow Judges to legislate from the bench or would you, like Paul, follow the Constitution? ...

.....These are just some of the issues that I, as a Reagan Conservative, have had with the Republican Party since Reagan left office ...Conservatives will not support or contribute to a Party that they believe has deserted them and their ideals ...without the support of the Conservative base, neither you, nor any other Politician, can win the Presidency running as a Republican ...

.....In order to win in November you are going to have to have a strong Conservative VP to pick up the Red States that Huckabee carried and that gave Bush his margin of victory ...I am sure that you will give this a lot of thought but my recommendation would be Fred Thompson .....COLOSSUS

Dude- don't call me your friend.
I'm so NOT your friend!

I couldn't even read thru his
speech.

As for Romney being the nominee in 2012 -- forget it. He's show that he CAN'T INSPIRE voters. We need to look for some new blood.

I have to keep reminding myself
that between McCain, Obama and Hillary, only McCain will do everything he can to keep us safe and the whole world will know that.

Anyone want to bet...
on just how broadly "our borders are secure" will be defined?

I'm not buying any of it. McCain has no intention of slowing the growth of big government and stopping the illegal migration of cheap labor.

McShameful.......

.......is the last person we need to support.

He is going to lose with or without our support, but
I want the GOP to KNOW why he lost and lost badly, and that they never again send us such a gutless wonder as our candidate.

This man ShamlessMc, in no way deserves our support. To begin with there are/were better candidates, far better and more acceptable. Shameless started being that, shameless according to some writers, and no surprise to me, when he was in North Viet hands. According to stories which will not be written in TH for obvious reasons, no guts, since his father was naval commander for the entire region and since he contacted the North Viet Cong about his son, he was afforded great privileges to include members of the opposite sex while apparently being tortured, all of us think. Maybe not..

The man is a shame as a senator and doesn't properly represent any state nor any true American.


Dear Closet GOP,
You completely misread my post(s). In part 1, I said that based upon his record and speech before CPAC McCain has my vote. In part 2, I suggested 10 things (any three of which would suffice) to gain my active and financial support. Other than that misreading you and I seem to agree. Here's a quick summation:
part 1-
And I gotta say McCain's speech was....a decent base hit:

1) No surrender in Iraq.
2) No letup in the GWOT.
3) Make Bush's tax cuts permanent.
4) Lower corporate taxes to 25% and eliminate AMT.
5) No earmarks of any kind.
6) Reduce waste and size of government.
7) Praise for Alito and Roberts and pledge to nominate similar Justices.
8) Secure borders BEFORE considering reform/amnesty/whatever
9) 2nd Amendment support, no wavering
10) Reign in entitlements (a huge open-ended mess)

part 2-
If he wants my money and active support, however, here are a few things he could do to really win me over. I'll be generous. He can pick any three (and number 10 should be considered a freebie):

1) Repudiate McCain-Feingold as a failure and probably unconstitutional.
2) Repudiate McCain-Kennedy as ill-conceived amnesty.
3) Repudiate amnesty and taxpayer support for illegals.
4) Sponsor or support legislation to update or correct the 14th Amendment that has become a cruel lure for illegal immigrants.
5) Admit error and support up/down votes for judges.
6) Support Gitmo and intense interrogation of terrorist detainees.
7) Repudiate unscientific Global Warming hysteria and legislation.
8) Remove all unnecessary federal obstacles to energy independence.
9) Support the elimination or drastic reduction of foreign aid and UN.
10) Select a suitable VP soon because of age and health concerns.

John McCain on John McClaim
Good Speech!!! Many good points!!! BUT . . .

A couple of things just don't ring true!!!

You said you love America and would govern in its best interests. Is open borders and amnesty,
for illegal aliens who stress infrastructure and harm our citizens, in the "best interest" of America. I THINK NOT!

You said you would "seek counsel" of conservatives; that you MIGHT accept that counsel OR stand firm on your decision. If ALL the things conservatives condemn (I won't mention them ALL, but your stance on illegal immigrants serves as one example), it seems you consider your stances more "correct" than the MAJORITY of American citizens.

The one area where you are totally correct is your idea of the war on terror - and what will happen if we abandon Iraq (as Clinton & Obama pledge).

The rest of your speech sounds like (pardon my crudity) political BS pandering to CPAC. You are simply saying what you think conservatives want to hear. I HOPE you are sincere, but have my doubts.


Why does this still have a
one average? People are you voting your one's?

No respect...
I cannot go against my core principles. I will not vote for a man that I do not repect.

I heard about the lies McCain put on automated recordings in Florida the day before the election...because he knew McCain/Feingold bill prevented Romney from countering the lie with a new ad...

I heard on my own phone in California the night before that election the lie McCain spread all across this state that Romney fathered and voted into law in Mass. an abortion on demand bill...McCain spread that lie knowing full well it was a lie...knowing full well that 85% of the legislature in Mass. was Democrat and Independent and the reason all the liberal bills got passed while Romney was a governor was because the legislature overrode his vetoes time and time again.

I have watched as McCain and Huckabee made a pack and split up states so they could save time and money as they campaigned.

I listened to all the 'good old boys' in Washington stand up and "endorse" McCain...literally telling the voters to give up their free agency and right to think and choose a candidate and vote for McCain because they were more able to make that decision for the voters.

I will allow no one to extort my vote out of me on the presumption of fear of anything.
I desire to use my free agency to vote on the basis of inspiration, faith, confidence, respect...I have none of these for McCain. His campaign against Romney was despicable.

Obama remains the most honorable candidate and if that is the only thing I can vote on...then so beit.

Don't doubt his INsincerity...

..........The man has demonstrated his colors repeatedly. Are we now supposed to believe his SINCERITY.??.

Not for a moment nor even a New York slit second.

You make your bed and you lie in it. WE see your bed, McShameless, and you might as well just go lie(sic) in it. Maybe Arizona will still elect you as senator. You will never be president, and that hurts us more than it hurts you, believe it. We're millions and you are only one man so your suffering is nothing compared to ours.

hate speech on a rampage
Only hatred, fear and loathing, incontinent blather and grinding of teeth:

Seeing the post here from Bill in Orlando (that the handle ?)

Here is the real face of the fringe zealot of our GOP (the farthest Right-wing) whose gross intolerance and stupidity cost us our congressional majority in 2006.

It was the rise of the fools in our American political arena. They actually think they own the United States of America, it's their private property! Sick bashtarts ! Yes, bigotry and white supremacy survive and smell up the pissant trash-talking communities of our country; Satan lives!

Honest and decent Republicans should pay attention when hatred of the "Other" rears its evil head in our society. We were branded racists precisely on account of these American simpletons who poison all the wells of our DECENT country. Do NOT listen to the fools !

No RINOS, No McLame, No McAmnesty
You want conservative support? How about signing some pledges about amnesty, securing the border, tax reform, no new taxes, no earmarks, conservative judges, etc. etc?

Or better yet, why don't we just dump you and get somebody we can trust without having them sign a pledge?

mr jeffrey
Howdy, Mr, Republican strongman.

"JefferyP writes: Friday, February, 08, 2008 1:58 PM
No RINOS, No McLame, No McAmnesty
You want conservative support? How about signing some pledges, etc."

Wow; that's motty big of ya, Jeff ! How can McCain even think of not begging for your support ? Supposing, though:

Just suppose many of those Republicans you detest so (RINO, libs, unfaithful to YOUR ideals) in fact go forth an SUPPORT the man; and let the devil take the hindmost ?

I'm sometimes applalled, especially in these debates with the overweening PRIDE in conservative quarters; the self-importance and condescension for all others;

People like you. Rough& tough, and hard to bluff.

But that's precisely your own tactic. BLUFF. You do NOT own the Republican party, Jeff. You think you do; you expect all others in our USA to fall into lockstep with you; or go to hell. Most of all where it concerns the illegal immigration craze. You've been spoon-fed the anti-Mexico poison so long you actually think you can blackmail a Republican presidential candidate; demanding he follow your intolerant, unyielding, quasi-racist ideology, or lose your "support." In another thread, I accused you and other diehards of going penny wise and pound foolish.


again, to Mr Jefferey
YOU guys lost us the last mid-term elections, and our lead inh Congress--It went to Plastic Pelosi and the DEMS, who know how to take but not give an inch--)

You indulged yourselves for months on end bashing the illegal alien and the so-called "open border," something wayy over-the top, with your hate speech. Until every single hispanic and Mexican-American LEGAL resident of our country, culturally consrvatives all, decided to cut you 2ss-wholes LOOSE ! They went out to vote AGAINST our GOP; costing us a number of razor slim losing margins in every state which should've been on OUR side; including Senator Allen the poor guy who called a spy at his rally a Macaca--he lost by a whisker ! HE wouldd've been running for president today, except he lost all the ethnic votes. Many conservative hispanics would have helped us elect him. If it hadn't been for the likes of YOU, Sir. With your damn hate speech and blind bashing of the illegal alien. Penny wise & pound foolish; and you're trying to do it all over again !


Hmmmm....
After all the research I did on all of the candidates before deciding who I could vote for my conscience won't let me vote for McCain. Besides, he is going to be eaten alive by the Democrats. (Bob Dole II)

Writing in Romney seems like a good idea, except I'm not sure it will do much especially in states not set up for write-ins in the Presidential elections. Correct me if I'm wrong. We should be able to write in anyone we want. But I keep hearing about a "process" of getting on the ballot.

Is there a third party with conservative position? Could we put together a "conservative party?" I think this would be a wonderful year to do it since the GOP will be running such a lame duck.

Put Him On a 4 Year Probation
Why not?

I don't trust this guy either, but I'd rather have Mccain than Hillary or Obama in office tearing up the joint.

In business when hiring a new employee, a person sometimes never reflects their resume nor their interview. They can either be surprisingly bad, or wonderful. This is why we give all new hires a 90 day probationary period. If we like them, we keep them, if we don't, they're out the door.

Why not give Mccain a 4 year probation to prove to us he says what he means. Let's see how well he does on taxes, cutting spending, earmarks, and building that fence---because we all know Hillary and Obama will cripple us in every aspect.

If McCain does a good job, wonderful, let's keep him on 4 more years. If he doesn't, oh well, we don't vote for him next run.

What can this hurt? We're stuck with the worst possible dems in the universe, but if McCain walks the walk on all his talk, that would be to our benefit.

Think of it as probation. I'll hold my nose to save my country.

Dear Mr. McCain
It doesn't matter what you told CPAC. And it doesn't matter what you write on TownHall's website.

I don't believe you.

Your campaign issued ads that blatantly lied about Romney's position on troop withdrawal "timetables". Your campaign also lied about what Romney said about Bob Dole.

You have spent seven years pursuing your own ambitions at the expense of the party and of conservatism.

I don't believe you will nominate judges that will overturn Roe vs. Wade and even if you do they will never get confirmed because of Democrat opposition in the Senate.

I don't believe you will enforce the border before granting amnesty to illegals because you have made it clear that your heart isn't in it.

You have foolishly bought into Al Gore's global warming lie, hook, line, and sinker.

Your promise to make the Bush tax cuts permanent might not sound so hollow if (1) you hadn't voted against them and (2) if you had the first clue about economics.

I am apalled that members of CPAC were ordered not to boo you at their conference. Maybe you can enlighten us mere peasants as to just where your restrictions on free speech will end.

You are not "pro-life". You voted to fund embryonic stem cell research, which kills embryos and provides incentive for abortion.

And don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for supporting the surge. Nearly every Republican in the Senate has supported Bush on Iraq throughout the war, and the rest of them have not jumped at every chance to bash Rumsfeld and give rights to terrorists held at Gitmo.

It takes a lot of hypocrisy and pure selfishness for you to ask for party unity now that it will serve you after spitting on it for the last seven years.

Just call us "Mavericks"
Who is the tall, dark stranger there?
Maverick is the name.
Ridin' the trail to who knows where,
Luck is his companion,
Gamblin' is his game.
Smooth as the handle on a gun.
Maverick is the name.
Wild as the wind in Oregon,
Blowin' up a canyon,
Easier to tame.


Hey, why don't you el caminos reach on across that aisle one more 'gin and get your votes? I'm voting for Hillary or Obama, baby! Thanks, moderates!

Every speech by McCain
is going to be full of crib notes from Reagan and Romney. Kerry's old VP choice is going to tell us about being in the war about 5 times per answer.

Sen. McCain, what kind of ice cream do you like?

A. Well, as you know, I was a squadron leader...

Senator McCain you lost....
me and most of the party base a long time ago.

As a farmer I noticed, of course, one of the first things you said, "I campaigned in Iowa in opposition to agriculture subsidies." As farmers, my husband would like to know if you will also get the government out of all our business. Will you stop the price controls on the commodities we produce, or will you just further hobble us by cutting off the subsidies.

I for one farmer would love to be able to pass along input increases along to consumers like all other business people do. Most people do not realize that 67% of the so-called Farm Bill goes to nutrition (food stamps, WIC, etc), 9% to conservation (CRP, etc.) and only 14% to production agriculture (subsidies are a mere 1/4 of 1% of the total bill) with the other 10% going to various other stuff.

What you said about subsidies, however, is not the reason I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR YOU, your voting record in the Senate especially in the last few years is in no way in keeping with Conservative principles. I won't go into the list here, but it is longer than my arm.

Try to explain it all away, but no amount of rationalizing will ever convince me. Your AMNESTY BILL, was the final straw. You should have switched parties a long time ago.

BTW, thank you for you military service.

Senator McCain
I am such a big fan!!!

You have been an inspiration to so many, and your life story a rare treasure of survival and patriotism. My deepest respect for you, sir.

Although your service to our country is beyond exemplary, both on the field and in the Senate, I must say I cannot bring myself to vote for you. Your major bills notwithstanding, I simply cannot vote for a man who has the poster known as "Robert" as a supporter. If you were to shed yourself of this cumbersome albatross, your path to the White House might just be assured.

I'm sure said poster is reading this, and will be replying shortly, as is his habit. Nonetheless, I felt I should write to you, and give you my deepest thanks.

Robert
Why do they call you WOBBIE

Senator McCain
Or is it Gov Huckabee? I had the strangest call from your headquarters last night. Yes the KS caucuses are tomorrow. First I was asked to participate in a one minute survey, which I agreed to, I was asked to keep it to a one answer "yes" or "no" but I have a hard time with that given the questions being asked.

I was then told that it was McCain Headquarters calling wanting to know if I would be attending the Ks Caucus tomorrow which I replied "yes." The next question was if I would be voting for McCain to which I answered "NO!" Then I was asked if I would vote for Huckabee and I said "NO!" Then the caller asked WHO I intended to vote for and I can't say yes or no to that! I said Mitt Romney! They said you realize he dropped out, don't you? I said "you mean he was steamrolled out!" They said only yes or no please! I said "Excuse me, YES!"

Then they said so you will not vote for Huckabee, we are with the Huckabee election campaign. I pulled the phone away from my ear and looked at it. I put it back to my ear and said "who IS calling? I will write in Mitt Romney YES! Goodbye"

Gator,
Welcome to Townhall.

I hope you become a regular poster here. :o)
You'll find us to be a pretty agreeable bunch for the most part. :o)

There are a few like our "friend" wobbie the wodent, who are basically trolls, who revel in derailing the conversation and starting arguments.

The best advice I can give is, once you recognize them for what they are, (And you will) use the scroll wheel on your mouse to bypass the space they waste here. They're usually pretty easy to spot, they're the ones who throw nasty accusations around, and have childish tanturums when they're ignored.


Senator, it might come as some surprise
to you, but I and many other conservatives are not buying your BS for a split second, and will not vote for you even were you to claim to be the second coming. Of course, I would not for a moment suggest that you actually are claiming to be the new republican Messiah, even though your speech at CPAC skirted perilously close to claiming your conservative divinity.

You are going down, sir, to use the current vernacular, and hopefully you will fall hard. May I suggest for your retirement a community, preferably in Mexico, where you can bask in the admiration of those you worked so hard for. Unfortunately, once out of office, you will not be able to demand amnesty for illegals at the expense of the American taxpayer.

Your passing from public office will not be regretted, except possibly by those on the left, and your legacy will only reflect a man who sold out the people, who elected him, for a mess of liberal pottage.





Jackpine Savage
Do you know Mountain Rose she told me Robert was a fraud and was declaring himself as a Navy Pilot. Is that true

Gator; You mean wobbie hasn't answered


your question??? Huh! That's strange! LOL

hey Gator
Come join us here

http://www.fundmental.com/thchat.php

the No Troll Zone :)

just set up your profile (Kinda like you did for TH) and come join the party
All the "Cool Kids" hang out there :o)

FarmersWife -- Bravo
and that sums it up nicely.

Jackpine Savage
Do you know Ralph Ellison for he believes im Chuck. Do you know CHUCK,

I was raised in the same area of central florida as chuck by his reponses on this net is that IM also Chuck

Hell I work on the road all day and have never been on here so I dont know how he can say that

Some of us do work for a living but, By saying that I guess Im not a LIB.

Gator
Welcome to TownHall.

Yes, Robert tried to claim he was a Navy pilot. A real pilot came on line and exposed him as a fraud (for his inability to show basic knowledge that any real pilot would have).

Robert has invented so many phony tales about himself that he has been referred to as the Walter Mitty of TownHall.

Do not even bother to read anything he posts.

wiseone

Sen McCain --
There are many conservatives who do not believe you, and will never believe you. I'm one of those.

MK's 6:49 post covers many things but I want to see 6 of 10.

In addition, abolish department of energy, department of education, department of HHS, department of transportation -- in other words promise that limited government means the government authorized by the Constitution.

Explain your comment about Sam Alito.

Read Mona Charen's TH column and provide a written explanation of your behavior or repudiate that behavior.

Explain yourself as a conservative when you sought to stifle speech with M-F.

Explain how you will assure me that you won't jump into bed with liberals, as has been your history, as soon as you are in the WH.

Unless you do these things the only dog I will vote for is mine as a write in.

Senator McCain
I was taught to respect my elders, so I'll be polite. It won't be easy, but I'll do my best.

Thank you for your years of service to your country. In and out of uniform.

I watched your speech at Cpac, and was thoroughly unimpressed. I saw a man who has given the conservatives in the republican party the finger every chance he got over the past eight years, suddenly trying to attract those same conservatives back into the fold.

I saw the man who considered becoming John Kerry's running mate in 2004, suddenly trying to be a Conservative.

I saw a man representing 26 years of "More of the same" trying to be the candidate for Change.

It's going to take more than "Straight talk" to convince this conservative, and millions like me, that you are not the RINO we have seen in action for the past few years.

Hiring Juan "The smiling snake" Hernandez as your "Hispanic advisor" was not a move in the right direction sir.



Wiseone
Why would anyone today with the technology we have want to lie about whom he is.

Thats the problem with America we think that everyone needs to be taken care of. like my grandpapa used to say. this country will always and foreever thank REPS for taken the steps to protect it that LIBS(DEMS) wont

God Bless America for no one else will

McSame
Don't care what the compromising bastid SAYS, what he did: On the courts was help block strick constructionists with the gang of 14, don't care how you want to spin it. On the economy he was against the Tax Cuts, using the same rhetoric as the dems. On the limited role of the Fed he was McFeingeld friend of incumbents, on Immigration he was Shamnesty, on Terrorism he was Terrorist Rights. On reducing Gov he's pro-stem cell research.

So he's a War Hero, so was Benedict Arnold.

He's Socialism Lite, more of the same moderate compromise with the commiequeers that has brought us to the BRINK of Socialism, more of the same compromise that we've been told to swallow since The Gipper left office.

Why would ANY rational person WANT to keep doing the same crappy things that have given us the SAME Crappy Government???
How is Mac MORE Conservative than Bush? HE's the one who helped HOLD UP Bush's Conservative appointments! Others have pointed out how COMPLETELY our Government has failed us over the last 6 years--and MAC was as much to BLAME for that as W!!! WHY REPEAT THE MISTAKES????

And he's on the SAME SIDE as Hillybama on Immigration--on the WRONG side of 70% of the American People!!!

I won't be his beech. I switched my Registration to Independent today. I'm voting for Hillybama.
The McChurian Candidate's Socialism Lite is the slow poison that kills all the more surely for being slower--accustoming the victim to the dose, just like the GOps been doing for years. At least with Hillybama's Socialism Straight there is the hope America will choke and puke it up before fatality is inevitable.
NO chance of that with McSame.

The big mick

Gator
One of the inherent problems of being ignorant is that the ignorant don't know how ignorant they are.

People like Robert watch movies like Top Gun and think they know enough about flying to pass themselves off as pilots.

When I was 20 years old I started a new job. On my first day the three guys I was working with were very friendly and did their best to get to know me. They asked me what I like to do when a wasn't working. I told them I liked to play golf.

One of them, who I would soon find out had a lot of personality problems, immediately launched into a tall tale about he had once shot par on the course where the Hawaiian Open was played. By the time he was done with his blow-by-blow description of his round I, an experienced player, was not only convinced he had never shot par, but that he had never even tried to hit a golf ball at a practice range.

Later that summer one of the other guys, who didn't believe my warning, invited him to play. The next at work I learned what happened. The guy who claimed to have shot par a few years earlier shot 96 on the front nine and 84 on the back for an 18-hole score of 180; ten shots per hole. And they didn't make him count his whiffs.

When the round was over he still stuck by his claim (fairy tale) that he had once (upon a time)shot par on the Hawaiian Open course.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a blood relative of Robert.

3 more thoughts
The first is to expand the fact that Hillybama is the Lesser evil.
1. All you who think Mac won't and hillybama will
review all the times HE ALREADY HAS!!!!
2. Even on War, size of Gov, judges, EVERYSINGLE Conservative issue his PATTERN is to SELL OUT and COMPROMISE. He WILL do it again. McSame buys Conservatives NOTHING!!
3. The fact uber commiequeer Kerry picked him as Veep and the Fact even Dick Morris says he SHOULD run as the Democrats Favorite Republican TELLS you how he WILL Govern. He will do NOTHING for Conservatism. Nada, zilch, zip!
4. It does NO good to Stay the Course on the Eastern Front if you collapse on every other, The Southern Front, the Home Front. We can be and will be destroyed just as easily there. And McSame has ALREADY CUT and RUN on those fronts.

I will not go one further step down the McSame yellow brick road. I WILL help push the Republic all the way over the cliff by voting for Hillybama and hoping America hurls Socialism Straight.

McSame buys me just that, More Slow Socialism DEATH. More surely for being slightly slower.
No sale.
the big mick
charter member of
O2C2 (b) Out of Control Conservative (Backlash Brigade) and
Conservatives for Hillybama

2 more
I've already posted a number of flying fig leaf warnings. The Pro Pundits will Have To! HAVE TO spread and shill for The McChurian Candidate.

If they walk away, like us McVirgins, they lose their access, their face time on Fox, their A-list party invites.

And if they don't DELIVER us Conservative Sheep to the Establishment Party Machine (EPM) Bosses, they have no relavancy TO those bosses.

They got a problem!

So look for the continuing Oh so rational and plausible McBeech fig leaves for those who have dropped drawers for the McChurian Candidate.

Also note which ones tell us how stupid and low class we are in the SAME tone of language, even the same ideas and phrases as the commiequeers.

Tells you what they've really thought of us True Conservative Believers all these years!

McSame and the Gilt Bird Cabin EPM bosses will go back to their Country Clubs and chortel to their Frat bros how they "had" the poor stupid Conservative Gals.

I'm walking away from McSame and his yellow brick road of Slow Socialist Death--with my dignity and my Principles Virginal

big mick O2C2 (b)

The EPM
McSame V Clinton (bama)
Tale of the Tape
Old verses younger, fresher more energetic
insider verses up and comer
old school verses agents of change
grumpy prick verses preachers of hope
Nixon verses the black JFK
Dole the lesser verses Clinton the Woman
(hey, if the play didn't WORK the first time just run it again!)

Same Bush "stay the course" vs ???
Which is right!, but where's the country???

But WORST of all is The Winning Issue on which 70% of the American people could be triangualted AGAINST hillybam was IMMIGRATION--and WHO did the
EPM Bosses MAKE SURE we had no other choice against? On WHICH side of the issue?

Could it be they learned their lesson on Shamnesty and they would rather insure the nomination of a LOSING candidate just to MAKE SURE a Serious Immmigration candidate could NOT emerge?

Sure ju-jitsus their foes in Talk Radio doesn't it? WILL they walk away, or will they spread and shill as McWhores?
I predict A.(pox on both your houses) Coulter will be the only one to stay Virginal. I have HOPE for Sean, Rush, Lara, Glen, but we'll see, won't we?

big (I won't be Mac's beedh)mick new minted registerd independent.

"The Pet Goat"

You wrote, "Why do the neo-cons really hate McCain?

It's because every time they look at McCain, they are reminded that while McCain was wasting away in a POW camp, their little overgrown frat boy was so stoned out of his mind that he couldn't even dare show up for his April 1972 physical.

Take a good, long look at McCain: look at the face of a true American hero, a real man. Then look at the droopy-eyed failure you people have hitched your star to.

Well done, GOP!"



Well, Goat, I served from 68-70. My son is an Army recruiter. I have no overgrown frat boy who was stoned out of his mind in my family.

What have you done for your country?

oldwcolumbia @6:55 AM

"If they dont want to vote for President McCain fine, but 2 things WILL happen. 1 they dont vote and a loonie leftist wins and they will be blamed for what happens then (high taxes, cowardice, etc.)."

The other possibility is that a loony maverick liberal will get in and put us in the same hole.


"2 President McCain wins and these silver spoons (who NEVER had the guts to serve) will be deemed what they REALLY are IRRELEVANT!"

See my post of 10 minutes ago about serving.

So you think I am irrelevent? I am a Christian, Conservative, Republican voter. You have NO place in your tent for the likes of me? That's fine. I can find someone who does want my vote.


It doesn't matter whether I backed Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, or Tancraedo. You want me to pitch my position and standards just so your horse can beat a Democrat? How shallow of you.

Back at the beginning of Bush II I recall 'W' reached across the aisle to include the Democrats and had his hand bitten. One of the biters was your 'horse'. Now, it my opinion that mad animals should be shot. And it my further opinion that I am not being represented by your 'horse'. So why should I vote for him again?

TOUGH SELL

.....Mr. McCain ...

.....As you can see from many of the posters here your task of winning their vote will be the equivalent of selling ice cubes to Eskimos ...

.....A man's words cannot erase his deeds and you have built up a long record of anti-conservative actions that have created a deep animosity within the Conservative base and you cannot win the election without them ...

.....You will have to select a VP that will convince your detractors to take a chance on you and hope that Hillary is your opponent so that the Anti-Hillary vote will make up the difference .....good luck! ...you are going to need it .....COLOSSUS

Pillow Talk
"I know I have a responsibility, if I am, as I hope to be, the Republican nominee for President, to unite the party and prepare for the great contest in November."

John now, 2008:
“And I am acutely aware that I cannot succeed in that endeavor, nor can our party prevail over the challenge we will face from either Senator Clinton or Senator Obama, without the support of dedicated conservatives, whose convictions, creativity and energy have been indispensible to the success our party has had over the last quarter century.”

John then in February 2000:
"Neither party should be defined by pandering to the outer reaches of American politics and the agents of intolerance."

Maybe if you were true conservative, your fight would be against the liberal left agenda rather than perceived “agents of intolerance” of your own party, instead of participation in that agenda. No, “backroom deals” are more the flavor of your battles there; followed only by grand media spots about the deals.

I wonder not what the veto pen would do in your hand, but what the “executive order” in your hands would bring.
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