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Monday, July 17, 2006
John Leo :: Townhall.com Columnist
Free speech is loser where religious expression is concerned
by John Leo
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Brittany McComb's microphone went dead at her high school commencement because school officials thought she was talking too much about religion. This was during her valedictory speech last month at Foothill High School in Henderson, Nev. The crowd of some 400 jeered for several minutes after her speech was cut off, but the American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada thought school officials had made the right call. No surprise there. If the issue is freedom of speech vs. fear that a commencement speaker will imperil church-state separation, the ACLU will come out against free speech every time.

Officials of the Clark County school district read the text of graduation talks in advance and edit out comments they consider inappropriate. In this case, administrators deleted all three biblical references, several references to "the Lord" and the one mention of Christ. But McComb rebelled and said what she wanted to say. She thinks commencement speakers have the right to thank anyone they want to. "Other valedictorians thank their parents. I wanted to thank my lord and savior," she said.

John Whitehead of the Rutherford Institute, which will represent McComb in a suit against the district, made the same point: "She has a constitutional right -- like any other student -- to freely speak about the factors that contributed to her success."

School district officials say students are encouraged to mention religion, but McComb's comments went too far and amounted to religious proselytizing, which they refuse to allow. Allen Lichtenstein, the ACLU general counsel, said: "There should be no controversy here. It's important for people to understand that a student was given a state-sponsored forum by a school and therefore, in essence, it was a school-sponsored speech."

Lichtenstein's no-controversy announcement is a bit much. Not every speech on school grounds qualifies as a "school-sponsored speech." The key question is: Who is speaking? Is it the individual student, or the school, selecting a speaker who reflects the administration's views?

The county school board acknowledges this issue clearly. Board policy says that when school speakers are selected "on the basis of genuinely neutral criteria" and retain primary control over their text, then what they say is not attributable to the school and may not be restricted." So on the basis of the board's own principles, it seems that McComb should have been allowed to speak.

Nobody in the audience could have plausibly concluded that she was speaking for the school district or that government was endorsing Christian belief. If the school was worried on this point, it could have made unmistakable disclaimers after reading her text. There is a catch-22, however. By requiring students to submit texts in advance, the schools involve themselves in the editing process, thus inviting judges to rule that the talks are indeed state-sponsored.

Officials relied heavily on the argument that McComb was proselytizing, not just expressing her religious beliefs. One version of her original text, circulating on the Internet, does not seem to be proselytizing at all. Besides, government shouldn't be in the business of judging the content and appropriateness of religious expression. It should just get out of the way and let valedictorians control their own message.

I think it's tacky to make anything more than a glancing reference to one's own faith to a diverse and captive audience at a commencement. On the other hand, I think these speakers have a clear First Amendment right to say what they think is relevant on the big day. The republic won't fall if an 18-year-old feels the need to attribute school success to Muslim, Christian, Wiccan or vegetarian principles.

One problem here is the great bugaboo of the culture wars: sensitivity. Many people think they have a right never to be annoyed, never to hear anything they disagree with. In one California case, decided against a religion-minded salutatorian, a federal judge wrote that "Forcing a dissenter to make the choice between attending ... and participating in a religious practice in which the dissenter does not agree is not constitutionally permissible." That is one sensitive judge. She thought listening to a student's speech was like compelling attendance at someone else's religious service.

Writing in 2001 about another such suit, columnist Cathy Young said: "As applied in this case so far, the First Amendment seems to be less a guarantee of religious freedom than a speech code guaranteeing that no one's feelings are hurt."

In the McComb case, the ACLU cites two 9th Circuit decisions. Why not? Both were on the ACLU's side. But there are two decisions in other circuits that go the other way. It's surely time for the Supreme Court to decide.

COPYRIGHT 2006 JOHN LEO

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You know what I would like to see...
Besides, of course, the 'spiritual revival' of the ACLU (or the complete ban and disappearance of same.)

Is any school with a program that at the end said, "Okay, now we will hear some religious views, those that object can now leave." Perhaps with Christians preCommencement speeches and Moslem postCommencement speeches.

Would THAT be treated the same? Oh, I'm so sorry, I forgot a whole lot of religions - but you get the picture. Whatever the two highest gradepoint averages WANT to discuss.

Both would be "voluntary" and so avoid that 'state - sponsored' tag and schools and people would see WHAT is most beneficial/popular to their own areas.

Because, if you make it "voluntary" and give everyone the options of staying or going - they cannot then claim any "offense." Or can they??

9th Circus
As soon as I saw 9th Circuit Court as the source of the rulings on the other "free" speech cases, things became left coast clear to me.

Ms McComb's "problem" was that she was expressing Christian rather than Islamic or Wiccan or Atheist viewpoints. All of those viewpoints appear to be protected speech in the ACLU's opinion, no matter where ofr when.

Being offended
No one has the power to offend or annoy another person. A person makes the choice to be offended or annoyed. What ever happened to "I do not like what you say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it?" Maybe it's about time we started sueing the ACLU!

Wonder what might happen if - - -
- - the ALCU would try exporting it's brand of crap to Brazil maybe...
Just returned from a wonderful vacation in Rio de Janeiro (which, incidentally, appears to be Political Correctness Free, at least for now) and wondered if the "BCLU," if there ever were such an unGodly thing, would try to knock down Corcovado, the scenic Christ statue seen in all the travel pictures...
Nothing would surprise me.

Forced religious conversion
For the last several years, we've heard terrorists shouting, "Allah Akbar!" before, during, and/or after committing some atrocity or another. So many to choose from!

I wonder how many Christians or Jews have heard this and responded, "Hey, I just HAVE to convert to Islam!"?

Any?

Religion is a free choice. Even our politicians can't force us to become Christians or Muslims, although Jews are determined by their mothers' being Jews. On the other hand, "lapsed Catholics" has entered our language, and there are a number "lapsed Jews." I mean, though a Christian, if I see a Jew eating a BLT, I'm not going to follow him/her down the street screaming, "Shame! Shame!" It's simply none of my business.

Those who would base a decision to convert to another religion based on another person's brief mention of God or Christ in an address before a student body (one assumes that the young lady in question didn't deliver the Sermon on the Mount) would seem to be an advertiser's dream! It appears that the student body, which expressed verbal offense at this unconstitutional denial of religious expression, have a better grasp on reality than their education "supervisors" (censors).

Perhaps if the young lady had been inserting a cucumber into a condom at the time, this might have been a mitigating factor: "Oh, well... THAT'S different!"

The inmates are running the asylum.

Free Speech unless it is about the Lord
Our country has allowed the ACLU to speak for it for far too long. Few Anerican people feel the way these few spastic voices do, yet for some reason they have grabbed the power to override anything the common man on the street wants for our country. They can do their best to stamp out Christianity, but we, like the Jews, will survive and the ACLU can tell satan what they think when they get to hell with him. We will have free speech inspite of them. The Bible is true and will prevail.

I wonder
I wonder of the school and the ACLU would have edited her remarks if she'd criticized Bush or the WOT.

I'm sure they'd have heartily approved if she'd quoted a NY Treason article on SWIFT.

Animalgirl - you're wrong
You obviously don't know a lot about Christians, or real Americans for that matter. The vast majority of people in this world, regardless of race, creed or color, just want to enjoy life, find love, get married and have a family. We allow the Michael Moores & Cindy Sheehans of this world to spew their venom, because we know they preach to the choir and they're not making any converts. Many of us choose to reply monetarily - we don't buy their books, go their movies, nor patronize any group that supports them. Instead of worrying about how Christians might react to a wiccan commencement address (by running home and watching "Bewitched" reruns), you might be better served by opposing the one group that represents almost as big a threat to our way of life as Islamic terrorism - the ACLU.

What is too far?

“School district officials say students are encouraged to mention religion, but McComb's comments went too far and amounted to religious proselytizing, which they refuse to allow.”

The culture war is not about sensitivity. Do you think the secularists are not proselytizing? We are bombarded with darwinite dogma from every quarter. They have taken captive America’s children in the state schools.

Miss McComb committed the unpardonable sin. She rejected the state religion. She stood up in the state church and preached another gospel. She dared to appeal to an authority higher than the state. This sin trumps her first amendment rights, so we are told. It is not allowed in the state churches.

Like the first Reformation the state and the religious authority will work to suppress an open Bible. We can hope that Miss McComb and many others like her will continue to stand up and be heard. We will not bow the knee to the state religion, rather we will declare the truth that all men are enslaved to their own sin and that real freedom comes from knowing Jesus Christ through the Scriptures. Perhaps the Lord will visit His church again with a new Reformation.

Free Speach vs Religion
It's interesting (but not too surprising) to read of secularists' attempts to ban "religious" (read GOD) sentiments in their public venues. Such statements often conflict with secular "religious" (read Humanist) sentiments. There is no difference bewteen this and the medieval Catholic Church banning the public expression of Protestant sentiments, or Hindus banning Moslem or Christian sentiments, or Buddhists banning all other conflicting religious sentiments.

The big difference is that it is being done here in the present under the supposed Constitutionally-sanctioned "Separation of Church and State". But these terms are being defined by the Secularists to exclude their "religion" from the "banned" list. How self-serving of them.

So, this comes down ultimately, to a war of word definitions. And what we are now experiencing is not unlike the ancient "Tower of Babel" story in the Bible, where the language was "confused" by God.

Except this time, we'll do it ourselves, thank you!!!



ACLU ???
This is a farce. American Civil Liberties Union????? What happened to America if these are the people who SPEAK for us Americans? Not the America I grew up in for sure.

It's freedom of religion...
...not freedom from religion.

Clark county school officials proofread her speech and altered it. She should have stood her ground there, not at the commencement.

Free speech is loser
The point that I would like to make is this:
if Brittany or any other student had openly thanked Buddha or Rhama or Meher Baba or Mohammad or this one or that one neither the school officials nor the ACLU would have complained and the speech would have been given as written. It is only JESUS who gets this sort of treatment.
The hypocrisy is appalling.

The time has come
to end religious oppression.

Hey, I know, let's form a country where we can be free to express ourselves. We can have a First Amendment and stick it to the King! We can worship how we please and where we please. We can start a revolution. Wouldn't that be great?

animalgirlisback:
"But I do have to wonder--what if the speech WAS Muslim, or Wiccan, or atheist? What if, at your child's graduation, the valedictorian gave a speech in which discussed how happy he was that he had thrown off the chains of religion to engage in scientific inquiry?"

I'd yawn. Unless, that is, their speech was under five minutes. Then I would applaud.

"Would you be as supportive of his right to say what he wanted as this girls?"

Nonissue. The plug would not have been pulled in any of these cases. Plenty of people would beg to differ with these hypothetical students, but not enough to file a lawsuit. It's called perspective, as in "putting things into". As for me? See above answer. Any more questions?

Calm Down
Honestly, you religious types sure get your pants stuck in your crack when someone who is boring everyone witless on a podium, is cut short.

Look, to me its simple. This kid got up and was meant to give a short speech. She then droned on for hours. It could have been about religion, atheism, types and makes of airplanes,how microsoft will run when Gates retires. Any topic which was not relevent to the subject and some drooling fanatic on the subject thinks we all want to hear 3 hours of it. We dont.

Clearly the audience got fed up and restless and the organisers fearing they would lose attention and probably their schedule curtailed the speech.

People droning on about anything boringly for hours should never be welcomed; anywhere, anytime. In fact to me it saya that that person is so anally retentive they dont care about their audience. Selfish.

Look, it doesnt mean that satan and his little pixies are stopping you practicing religion. In fact the fabric of US life is absolutely drenched in it. To its detriment in my opinion. Calm down, you'll live!

Idopas,
I'm fully with you about long, boring speeches; however, your post indicates that you didn't read the article or any of the news releases about the incident. You seem to think that the plug got pulled on her merely because she strayed into Boringland. The problem is that the audience was upset that the plug was pulled, not that it had taken so long to do so. Another problem is that the people who pulled the plug disagree with you as to why they pulled it. Oh, and the religious types here don't really appear to be foaming at the mouth. John Leo himself said that he thought the speech was a bit tacky. We're just not very comfortable with our rights being usurped by the very people who should be encouraging the use of those rights (schools). Other than that, you're spot on!

ldopas
You are right wolfman, thanks for the decent reply!

Boringland...I like it! ;-)

There is NEVER a surprize ...
... when the ACLU is involved.

http://evangelicalperspective.blogspot.com

Perspective from Creation Ministries Int
Today’s Feature
Government schools are becoming Christ-free zones: A school’s top student wanted to thank Jesus in her farewell address. But school officials disconnected the microphone. What are the legal and educational implications for Christians?

Erring on the side of censorship:
US government schools are becoming Christ-free zones

by Lita Cosner, guest writer

http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4515

Brittany's speech and Suhrheinrich J.
I'd point out that the article http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4515 has a link to a video clip of Brittany's speech. It shows that it was hardly "long", and that the audience shouted "Let her speak! Let her speak! ..."

There is also a handy citation of a court case, ACLU vs Mercer County (KY) http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/05a0477p-06.pdf, that TH readers should be aware of: where Suhrheinrich J. (with Batchelder J. concurring) scathingly denounced the ACLU for treating "separation of Church and State" as if it were constitutional.


Brittany's speech and Suhrheinrich J.
I'd point out that the article http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4515 has a link to a video clip of Brittany's speech. It shows that it was hardly "long", and that the audience shouted "Let her speak! Let her speak! ..."

There is also a handy citation of a court case, ACLU vs Mercer County (KY) http://www.ca6.uscourts.gov/opinions.pdf/05a0477p-06.pdf, that TH readers should be aware of: where Suhrheinrich J. (with Batchelder J. concurring) scathingly denounced the ACLU for treating "separation of Church and State" as if it were constitutional.


Separation of Church and State
The free speech issue aside, I wish every time one of these discussions about separation of church and state comes up, the columnist would remind the readers that the concept was meant to protect the church, not the state. Our country is founded on the belief in freedom of religion not freedom from it.

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