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Friday, October 24, 2008
John Hawkins :: Townhall.com Columnist
If McCain Wants to Win, He Needs To...
by John Hawkins
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I don't want to spoil all the "happy talk" you're hearing from so many people about how the polls must be wrong because they're telling us something we don't want to hear, but unless the momentum shifts, John McCain is going to lose what may literally turn out to be the most important election of our lifetime.

The polls have definitely tightened in the swing states over the last week or so, but not quite enough for McCain to pull it out -- given that Obama is outspending him, has more enthusiastic voters, and may even have a better field operation.

That means McCain isn't going to win the election merely by pointing out that Obama hung around with Bill Ayers, by condemning ACORN's massive voter fraud, or by meekly intoning that Obama is a socialist.

If McCain wants to come out on top in this election he is going to have to draw much stronger distinctions between himself and Barack Obama and he's going to have to significantly ramp up the intensity of his negative attacks.

Normally, that's something that would be done by 527 groups -- but since they're not fond of McCain because of McCain-Feingold, because they're probably having trouble raising money from depressed conservatives, and because, perhaps not unreasonably, they're worried McCain might publicly denounce them if they take tough shots at Obama -- we can't count on the 527 groups to carpet bomb Barry into hamburger.

Furthermore, since the mainstream media is acting like little more than an arm of the Obama campaign these days, they're certainly not going to start telling the truth about Obama in the waning days of the campaign either.

So, here's what McCain should do: take advantage of the way the news cycle works to saturate the coverage from now until election day through a series of explosive attack ads.

If McCain puts out a genuinely controversial ad, the media will give it millions of dollars worth of free coverage during the 24-48 hours that it dominates the news cycle. But what kind of controversial ads should McCain do? He should talk -- honestly, I might add -- about the very same issues that have been widely discussed in the blogosphere and on talk radio that have been purposefully ignored by the mainstream media.

For example, McCain should do ads on...

Reverend Wright: Play his "God D*mn America" remarks, his "chickens are coming home to roost" comments about 9/11, and his claim that America created the AIDS virus and suggest that Barack Obama agrees with him, which makes him unfit to be President.

Obama's refusal to wear a flag pin and hold his hand over his heart during the National Anthem: Do we really want a President of the United States who doesn't love his country? This issue alone would cost Obama millions of votes if McCain has enough political courage to push it.

The Deficit: McCain has promised to balance the budget and has said there will be no more bailouts. On the other hand, some people have said Obama may run trillion dollar deficits and cause a depression with his tax increases. McCain should run ads showing a grim depression-style America featuring a weeping man apologizing to his dirty faced, overly thin son for ruining the country by voting for Barack Obama.

Inexperience and Incompetence: Obama has no record of accomplishment and he has never made an important decision in his life. McCain should say he's incompetent, that he doesn't even know many states there are in the nation he'd be leading, and that if he had a little more experience, he'd be as qualified as Sarah Palin, his Vice-President.

Obama's cocaine usage: Obama admits that he used to use cocaine. It is an addictive substance, so how do we know he ever quit? How do we know whether he ever dealt drugs? Do we want to tell America's children that it's ok to use cocaine by putting Barack Obama in the White House?

Bill Ayers: The problem with McCain's Bill Ayers attacks so far is that they've been much too tame. The Weathermen actually tried to murder American soldiers. Do the troops really deserve a Commander-in-Chief who would pal around with a guy who tried to kill them? If Obama is soft on Bill Ayers, would Obama be soft on Al-Qaeda as well? It's entirely possible and McCain should be willing to say so.

ACORN: Again, the McCain campaign hasn't gone far enough on ACORN. Obama has worked for these guys. His campaign has chipped in money to them. McCain should accuse him of being pro-voter fraud and trying to subvert democracy.

If the McCain campaign released ads like this every 24-48 hours, his campaign would monopolize the news cycle every day from now until the election, Obama wouldn't have time to respond effectively, and voters would walk into the voting booth thinking about Jeremiah Wright and whether they want a patriotic President or not -- as opposed to "change."

Granted, if McCain did this, the Obama campaign's surrogates and the media would get very angry and call him racist for not politely standing by and just allowing Obama to win -- but, they're already doing that now.

What it all comes down to is that McCain needs to make a decision: does he want to be President of the United States or does he want Harry Reid to like him? Does he want to prevent the Democrats from doing permanent damage to this country over the next four years or does he want to start trying to rebuild his friendly relationship with the Washington Post and the New York Times?

This is a crucial election and a lot of conservatives -- many of whom have never been big fans of John McCain -- have bent over backwards to do everything we can to help him get elected. We've chipped in money, we've encouraged people to vote, and we've stood up for him, even when it wasn't always easy or fun to do. As far as I'm concerned, after doing all that, John McCain owes it to us to do everything humanly possible to win the presidency instead of "going gentle into that good night."

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Mr. Hawkins
If you have put in all this effort to get McCain elected despite your reluctance and he has failed you, guess whose fault it is.

Obama's weak spots
McCain should attack Obama on his weakest
points - the people around him.

By this, I mean Pelosi and Reid. They are
easy targets.

People need to understand that by voting for
Obama they are giving one party control of
two branches of government, with leverage
on the third. We won't be able to survive
this.

BTW, I have a blog at:

http://theamericandreamagain.blogspot.com/

I'm posting the address here because I've
kicked off the liberal blogs for presenting
coherent arguments.

Please feel free to use any information posted
there if it will help get the word out.

He wants McCain to lie!
Bring up Wright on his 9-11 comments and his America created AIDS.And SUGGEST!!! Obama agrees with him.Does not matter that Obama condemmed the remarks.
But what the hell to do it Wright (ha ha)Have Saks Sarah next to you and wink real hard so people will think Obama is pro-9-11 and pro AIDS.Glad I could help.

Pathetic, Hawkins, because
by your own column, you acknowledge that there's not enough policy difference between the two of them for McCain to win on actual issues.

BOTH are for amnesty. BOTH endorse "climate change" BS. BOTH endorse Cap and Trade/Kyoto. BOTH endorse the obscene "bailout". BOTH endorse government involvement in "healthcare". BOTH flip-flopped and now endorse off-shore drilling. BOTH are against using our own on-shore oil deposits. BOTH have their most significant alliances with Senate liberal Democrats. BOTH are going to appoint liberals to Cabinet/advisory positions -- McCain's already named Cuomo, Lieberman, Gore and Kerry as some of his choices.

Hell, as far as I can tell, they only differ a bit on a few tax issues, and Iraq.


Why would any conservative consider voting for EITHER?

A pox on both their houses.

Barr 2008.

Hawkins Distortions
You're advising that McCain attempt to ride dead horses. McCain's negative attacks, from what I've read, have not paid off. No doubt there are many right-wingers whose lense for viewing the world leads them to believe all kinds of half-truths and outright falsehoods about Obama. They will vote for McCain in any case. The independent voter is whom McCain needs to attract, and they are not impressed by negative ads trumpeting dead horse charges.
The William Ayers deal is a dead horse. It takes very little investigation to recognize that the charges re. Ayers are false. The ACORN deal is a dead horse. ACORN is not perfect, but they are not perpetuating widespread voter fraud. They are working at enabling people to exercise their right to vote. Your recommendations are dispicable Mr. Hawkins.

Not a good idea
I think yu're not very bright. You don't do the same thing over and over an expect a different result. No wonder Obama is winning. ALL republicans have is dirty tricks, no brains.

you're absolutely right


If McCain won't fight for the prize, how can he expect us to fight for him.

C'mon Mac. You were my third choice in the primaries, but you are head and shoulders over the empty suited one. Fight dammit.

McCain can't win
He sided with everything America hates about Bush.

This election should have been a 30 second slam dunk landslide for McCain unfortunately he's on the wrong side of EVERY ISSUE.

McCain made his immigration FNM ACORN bed, now he has to sleep in it.

The financial collapse is a direct result of currupt criminal immigration policy and extending liar loans to immigrants.

Even with America going down in flames and dragging the world economy down with it McCain is still too stupid, corrupt and stubborn to abandon his Socialist criminal immigration policies.




Spot on
You are right, right down the line on these issues. And you're right that McCain has nothing to lose by going relentlessly negative. Obama must be the issue. Make sure this gets to someone who can get it to Mac's people - if you don't have a connection, find someone who does, unless you're sure it will find its way to him.
Keep up the good work.
Greg Buls

McCain isn't going to do anything
If anyone doesn't want BHO to be president, here are two plans that would work no matter what (if anything) McCain does.

1. Get an embarrassing video tape of BHO saying something incredibly stupid and revealing how he's basically just an empty suit. The problem is that a lot of people are just wasting time expecting something like that to come out, when it probably isn't.

So, you have to create it by going to a BHO appearance and asking him a question he's going to have trouble with. Then, upload video of his response to Youtube:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008071.html

2. Get the MSM to do their job. The NYT and WaPo could completely torpedo BHO if they released everything they know. They won't do that, but you can get close by letting individual reporters know that unless they do real reporting their careers are at risk:

http://24ahead.com/blog/archives/008207.html

For the first, write the bloggers listed and ask them why they aren't pushing that plan.

For the second, send that link or just the text to major MSM reporters.

Republicans seem to always go negative
Even Townhall's Charles Krauthammer thinks Barack Obam's tax plan would not be so bad and is not socialism. Why do many of the hard core right want to continue to let the billionaires pay less taxes than their secretary?

Say you have a million dollar business. (Your daddy built it and you were given it), you get to write off all your expenses, equipment, training, education, etc. You decide what to pay yourself.

How about sharing some of the wealth with the working middle class after all, our factories jobs are gone, companies are not giving raises,
are are kids are exposed to filth on TV and the internet.


John great adds but...
Your adds would be great and accurate but, you are underestimating John McCain's effort, he does want to be Pres and he has been out there fighting for US. The problem is that there may not be enough voting Americans to overcome, the obaliar's $$$, the media propaganda and lies, hollyweird, acorn's cheating, the ignorance of so many "American" voters. We need a Miracle from above and no add will give US that, only G_d himself ! And I have Faith he will !
We all know the people who are backing obaliar, bandwaggoners claiming to be "Republicans" or "conservatives," and staunch democrats who want to win even if their candidate is inexperienced and would put our national security in danger, will lead US towards more government in our lives and pockets(specially if pelosht and bsreed get free reign) and G_d knows what else this unknown would bring US !
G_d willing McCain will pull out another Miracle Victory when he does we need to go to work right away to avoid ever coming so close to electing such an inexperienced, unknown, government control and power hungry person. Maybe McCain will take your advice and put on some of those adds, I know he won't quit and neither will Sarah, they are both fighting hard ! G_d help US because with G_d on our side, the Victory will come !!

Where's Obama's Birth Certificate?
CONSTITUTIONAL lAWYERS: FILE A LAWSUIT AND PREVENT OBAMA FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND MCCAIN SUPPORTERS!

ARTICLE II: THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES: NO PERSON ACCEPT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN OR A CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES AT THE TIME OF THE ADOPTION OF THIS CONSTITUTION SHALL BE ELIGIBLE TO THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT, NEITHER SHALL ANY PERSON BE ELIGIBLE TO THAT OFFICE WHO SHALL NOT HAVE ATTAINED THE AGE OF THIRTY FIVE YEARS AND HAVE FOURTEEN YEARS OF RESIDENCE WITHIN THE UNITED STATES.

OBAMA MUST PRODUCE A AUTHENTIC CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND PROVE THAT HE HAS LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES FOR 14 YEARS OR HE MUST DISQUALIFY HIMSELF BEFORE ELECTION OR THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES AND PRESIDENT BUSH MUST FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE POWERS THAT OVERSEE THAT THE LAWS ARE FOLLOWED ACCORDING THE LAWS OF THE LAND WRITTEN IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. OBAMA IS A LAWYER AND HE KNOWS HOW TO READ, INTERPRET, AND ENFORCE OR VIOLATE THE LAWS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST DEMAND A AUTHENTIC U.S. BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

McCain, the Warrior?
McCain may have been a warrior once - but, now seems to have lost his way. He once cared enough to fight for our Nation, why not now? Does he really think his father and grandfather McCains would understand his lack of offense in a critical war for the security of our Nation? Is he willing to "act nice", and thereby place our military in the hands of Obama as Commander-in-Chief? Our military is obviously in his corner - is he in theirs?

MCCain and Winning
Your points are dead on. Will he listen?

McCain needs to step up Attack ads
Your Points are Dead On!! We believe Sarah Understands this by her comments in interviews and speeches on the Stump, but not sure McCain does.You Are absolutely Right,it comes down to does he want to Win this Presidency or go back to being Friends with the Dem's?? The real thing he needs to think about is-Looking ahead, if he caters to the Dems what will he look like after?? Our prediction is he will be a Total Disgrace to the Country and then what good will it do for him?? McCain You're Soft Campaigning isnt Cutting it, STEP IT UP NOW,YOU'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!!!!PUT THOSE ATTACK ADS OUT ABOUT OBAMA IF YOU DARE!!!AMERICA DESERVES THE TRUTH DONT YOU THINK????????

Thanks John Hawkins
.
...To make most efficient use of time and money, thin down your list, in my opinion
(in no particular order than from your list):

1) Deficit
2) ACORN

While Wright and Ayers are important parts of the "Inexperience and Incompetence" theme, FOCUS ON THE BIG ISSUES, JOHN.

"Deficit," as you describe above, shows Americans DIRECT implications of a vote for ZerObama.

I feel you miss ENTIRELY the critical and FATAL nature of Obama's "ACORN" connection:
McCain needs to point out John Fund's point - ACORN's voter registration fraud threatens ALL AMERICAN'S VOICE OF THE VOTE, by "negating" our VALID vote with that of FRAUDULENT, non-eligible "voters" [sic]...THIS THREATENS THE FUNDAMENTAL FABRIC OF OUR REPUBLIC!

Americans still value this - ahem - detail.
_____________________

In addition, the FINANCIAL focus is ALSO of tremendous import,
as it sends a CONSTRUCTIVE, POSITIVE message,
to ocunterbalance the "negative-yet-thoroughly-factual" nature of your "Deficit" item.

McCain also has to raise the Lawsuit in
Pennsylvania brought by Democrat Phil Berg to light.Berg was an attorney general not just Joe Blow
If Obama IS REALLY a CITIZEN and why he won't produce proper documentation just to show he is. McCain did and the courts decided.

Obama for good or ill, one way or another, it would be solved, it would be over...
WHY won't Obama do it? What's Obama hiding?

Republican message:
Republican message:

Be afraid. Be very afraid. And vote Republican.

Because, if you want change, if you are hopeful about America's future then you'll be voting Democratic this November.

Remember: be afraid, and vote Republican.

Bring Abortion Issue front and center
Months ago, I had thought that even though McCain was a disappointing candidate, he could certainly defeat Obama, the most radically liberal politician to come to the fore ever. McCain has not done enough to point out Obama's extremism in so many areas.

To add to your list of ads, the abortion issue should be put front and center. Obama is an extremist on this, and his cronies are doing a fantastic job of distorting true positions, both his and McCain's. Most Americans believe that abortion is bad -- some want it to be outlawed outright, and a greater number beleive that there should at least be some restrictions on it. Not so, Obama. Also, most women in this country oppose abortion. Palin was obviously picked 1.)b/c she was a woman and 2.) b/c she was pro-life and pro-family. But she has not been allowed to campaign on these issues. She is apparently being coached to equivocate and say as little as possible so as not to upset the left on this issue. Dumb. Women outside the media world would love her if she came out in support of Life and Family, and there would be voters that turned out on election day, who never cared about an election before in their lives, coming out to vote for McCain/Palin.

Hawkins for Campaign Manager!
Hey you're hitting a nerve with the libs, good work. Good ideas, no
deceit, they are for real links to a real lack of moral character that need to be impressed on the minds of voters.

Rose, reply #15, I think he has the 14 years residency, but psssssst he has a paternal Kenya grandmother who is absolutely elated that Barakis going to be president. In her enthusiasm she admited that she was present at his birth at a Kenya hospital!!!! This means, if true, he can't be a natural born citizen, a necessary constitutional requirement for office. The Hawaiian birth certificate he supplied his web site is a proven forgery; a remake of his half sister's, her name can be revealed on it. Any alternations on a birth certificate render it void. Besides this, he has an apparent dual citizenship in Indonesia. Theris a legal lawsuit he won't address........yet. His deceit may yet be his downfall.


McCain campaign
One at a time:
- Rev Wright: not new or news; if guilt by association, then why not Keating 5, Alaska Independent Party for Palin?
- Flag pin: Obama wears it; also old news
- Deficit: too bad McCain voted for Bush budgets
- Inexperience: what about Palin? Please don't tell me she's experienced when McCain had so many strong Repubs to choose from (Huckabee, Crist, Rice, Hutchinson, Whitman, Romney). Choosing her was his big mistake.
-Cocaine: ridiculous, no evidence whatsoever; but what about McCain cheating and leaving first wife? Cindy's addictions?
- Ayers: hasn't worked yet and won't
- Acorn: too bad McCain was their keynote speaker in 2006, and it's on tape too

What McCain doesn't seem to get is that Americans' want to hear real solutions to their real problems, not stunts (e.g. 'suspend campaign'), negativity, and phrases.

You may feel better with the 'go negative' approach and get all the venom and hate out, but it won't win enough voters.

And in the long term, it marginalizes the Repub party to right wing fringe with only nastiness as an organizing point, which is why more Repubs are distancing themselves from McCain and some now endorsing Obama (Powell, Wm Weld, Goldwater family, Susan Eisenhower, etc.)
The GOP can and should do better.

Just voted for true change
I refused to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. I voted Libertarian.

Go ahead all of you Republican sheep, and tell me I wasted my vote, or my personal favorite, my vote was proxy vote for Obama.

Remember, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

We keep getting more of the same with the Dems and the Reps.


Newsflash: Game Over
McCain's already lost. The deceitful dishonest recommendations in this article are too late. Most of them have been tried and failed to get much traction. American's have the ability to see through lies and distortions. Reading the advice of desperate wingnuts is quickly becoming my favorite form of entertainment! But I must say I appreciate that McCain supporters have dwelled on superficial accusations, instead of doing and saying what it takes to get McCain elected! Thanks for all your help folks!

spot on
The polls (the reliable, non-biased polls) are hovering within the margin of error and one, George Washington poll, has it even.

Bring on that flake the Wrong Rev. Wright and reintroduce his rants to voters in swing states and it's all over for the biggest phoney to ever hit the bigtime, Obama.

And all he had to do was act like the pied piper, handing out money for people's votes.

Not leadership
The sooner conservatives abandon the likes of Hawkins, the sooner Americans will start embracing them again.

Hawkin's ideas completely abandons the idea of leadership, which, like it or not, Obama has shown to be more adept at.

Had Republicans no fallen into the religious bias that keprt Mitt Romney from the nomination, there wouldn't even be any ridiculous talk of exactly how negative McCain's campaign should lower itself. Instead there would be a choice between a proven economic expert and values leader verses Obama's brand of leadership.

Independent Texan
I have nothing against you at all for voting Libertarian. I tihnk you are wrong, but at least you are an informed voter.

At least 50% of the people voting voting for Obama are doing so because they are expecting big fat check(s) once he is in office. That will not help the economy one bit.

Keynesian philosophy in economics is dead. It'll be a failure for Obama, and this country.

Too bad he won't be able to give it try!

B.O.'S PATERNAL GRANDMOTHER ON TAPE
WorldNetDaily has a story about a tape that Attorney Berg has access to of an audio interview with B.O.'s paternal grandmother.

She confirms his Kenyan birth.

Here's a question for everyone: which MSM network (CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, etc.) will be the first to break away from the rest and finally admit that this story exists?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId =78931

it's a matter of
......knowing who a man is that won't even allow anyone to look at his college thesis by telling people whom his friends are......if we want to know a man, and we should if he is asking us to elect him leader of the free world, we should know his friends and mentors, because that tells us who he is.

Fact is, many of them are skids, period. And since the MSM is in the tank for Barry, it is McCain's job to introduce these men to voters in the swing states.

Obama born in Kenya? I am skeptical and it seems a bit flaky, but it sure is looking that way http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=2256






Will from CA
You are the pathetic one. Do you think people actually care about money more than life?? That's exactely what it read like to me. I think you have that backwards. What the h...is money good for if you're dead? I truly believe we will be attacked by the terroists again. Obama wouldn't know what to do. What do you think he'd do? Probably go sit with them and pretend we can talk things out. He is a loser and is NOT at all interested in the freedom we are so blessed to have in America. He is a control freak and seems to talk a good talk, but he's very inexperience about what America is all about. Look at Chicago and how he and Ayers said they helped the education system (by throwing money at it) well that didn't help at all. The worst in our country. If he can't handle that and a little question from Joe the plumber do you want him making decisions for the safety of Americans?
Joe was publicly humiliated for asking him ONE
QUESTION...BOTOX BIDEN got on the band wagon for that one at his rallys. If they can't handle that without their figure pointing and
mocking a common American worker what is it going to be like the 4 horrible years they're in. No one will be able to voice their opinions without fear of being ridiculed in public. So I ask you, how much freedom are they going to take away from the American people if they are trying to do it now - our 1st admendent???

truthorfiction is needed ...............
and if you all go to http://www.truthorfiction.com and see what is true/false/undecided with the candidates, Obama and Biden would be down 37 points not up by the margin.
So many Rinos and Libs on this sight anymore it is hard to have a decent, interesting discussion!
McCain/Palin is actually doing better than the polls show and now the Rinos want to bail out crying.
Any loss this year is on you not the GOP and its true supporters.
So McCain/Palin'08 and the future for sure.

to be clear
So McCain should basically do what he has been doing, but should take on the demeanour of a 9/11 truther while doing it. Yeah that should work.

Pathetic
This has got to be the most bizarre, pathetic effort I have ever read on townhall. Hawkins appears to be unaware of the fact that negative attacks on Obama tend to result in a decline in McCain's poll numbers.

Mr. Hawkins, the great majority of Americans are sick to death of conservative fear and smear politics. Obama's lead is 30 points among indepedents. A significant number of Republicans are abandoning the party to vote, not for Ron Paul, but for Obama.


Independent Librarians
Independent Texan
Location: TX
Reply # 24
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 9:08 AM EST Just voted for true change
I refused to vote for the lesser of 2 evils. I voted Libertarian.
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Then why are you here, except to spread more hatred. Typical Commie insight.
SIT why don't you go to Huffingtonpost and brag to them. Because you voted for evil not the lesser of two which makes you more pathetic than a Dem.

Jeff MI
How's the Kool-Aid Jeff? What lies are you talking about? Rev. Wright??? You are stupid.

Jack that's why
I thanked the McCain supporters for all their help in getting Obama elected in my earlier post LOL. Their assistance has been invaluable. The more they make outlandish assertions, and "guilty by association" accusations, the better Obama does. I think the mistake the right wingnuts made was thinking that all Americans are driven by fear and hate and that's not the case. That's mostly limited to their side.

McCain will win
Conservatives don't go group up and yell about our candidate the way the brainless left does, and BO is motivating plenty of people that he doesn't want to vote, to vote.

A sucker is born every Second, yeah
Lon
Location: PA
Reply # 33
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 9:44 AM EST to be clear
So McCain should basically do what he has been doing, but should take on the demeanour of a 9/11 truther while doing it. Yeah that should work.
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What Mccain/Palin is doing is working, what we will not do is Lie like the media,DNC and BO/JB have.
Obamas Energy plan is or was McCains until they stool it verbatium. Health care, Dems declared a tax on the employer benefit package because that is what the Congress will do to those who try to get the coverage at, no co-pays.
What all you Libs and Rinos here do not see is, no matter what we suggest, the DNC will not allow or has effectively ignore us and give it to themselves.
Obama had no energy plan until we talked about it, then he had ours. Same with health care.
DNC strategy is, promise them everything and blame the GOP for what they will not allow.
Which will be all of it.

NewsFlash...MI surrenders to Canadian...
Jeffrey
Location: MI
Reply # 25
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 9:19 AM EST Newsflash: Game Over
McCain's already lost. The deceitful dishonest recommendations in this article are too late.
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Fisherman with hook. Claims state was out manueverd as it sent first team Wolverines to attack and they fumbled on the five.
He who reads his own fortune sees only what he wants and nothing else.
Go serve your Massa and post at Huffingtonpost with all the other LOSERS

Pinto man
McCain may not even win Montana! It's now in play, according to electoral-vote.com. Sorry.

Mod Mark
Don't you like guys? I was surpised at the invitation. Hey, when your communist BHO loses, are you going to jump on one of those ships and leave the US? Something to think about.

Yikes conservatives get
real nasty when they lose! Why all the name-calling? I'm not in charge of the polls, I was just reporting the results. Don't blame me that McCain picked Caribou Barbie and ran was of the most dismal campaigns in recent memory. Don't blame me that George Bush is a presidential failure. McCain's loss is mostly his own doing; call him names, not me.

Gin&Tonic...............................
Mod Mark
Location: NY
Reply # 40
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 10:13 AM EST Subject: kathy living in fear
"I truly believe we will be attacked by the terrorists again."
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Kathy have a great fear, any priss still drinking G&T will never stand and fight. To sloshed to stand and see, let alone fight.
Kath your telling them good keep it up.
MODMARK, rhymes with Wal-Mart, ValuMart, and all the cut rate discount China Good imporiums the DEMS own and Love.
I thought for sure they found your comments so inept that they blocked you for lack of substance.
Gee we are more tollerant of the metally challenged than I was aware of.

Caribou Barbie is rather sweet at least
Jeffrey
Location: MI
Reply # 44
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 10:31 AM EST Subject: Yikes conservatives get
real nasty when they lose! Why all the name-calling? I'm not in charge of the polls, I was just reporting the results.
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Sarah said it did not offend her, at the Ohio Rally Wednesday in Green, Ohio.
But that is the only nice thing Liar DEMONS have had to say anywhere.
So go back to Huff&Puff and tell your wacko friends that it is not over till Jan 12th when John takes the oath of office and we out all you crooks for the true low-lifes you are.

Polls are like Arses....................
Jeffrey
Location: MI
Reply # 42
Date: Oct 24, 2008 - 10:23 AM EST Subject: Pinto man
McCain may not even win Montana! It's now in play, according to electoral-vote.com. Sorry.
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we all have one and seen one, but only the lame kiss them and live by them.
Most of those polls being posted and put up by the media are Libeal sided and tilt towards Mecca, oops east. See NY,DE,MA,NJ,CT,RI,ME,VT, and of course NC, which imports 97% of all Chinese made Goods and slap Made in America libals on them, support these polls.
If we lose MT, it is because ACORN registered all of Deadwood and Boot Hill.
Go to truthorfiction and read somethings that will make you vomit your support of BO/JB

Whaaat???
As I understand it, McCain was tied or leading in the polls until the mortgage crisis hit us full force, about a month ago. Since then Obama has pulled way ahead (so we're told by the lying left media).

What went wrong? The mortgage crisis was a corrupt Democrat entitlement production, start to finish. It started with Clinton's so-called Community Reinvestment Act, complete with threats from the Reno Justice Dept. that reluctant lenders would be sued and/or regulated out of business. And it ended with corrupt CEO Franklin Raines cooking the books at Fannie Mae so he could loot it before joining the Obama campaign as - get this - an advisor on finance and housing.

So what did McCain do with this gift? He tripped over it. He made a stupid grandstand play by "suspending" his campaign and challenging Obama to do the same so they could go to DC and save the country from this 'crisis'.

And then the bill didn't pass anyway.

The subsequent Friday night debate was held anyway. And the next week the Senate loaded $150 billion in pork onto the bill that had just failed and - voila - the bill passes. With McCain voting "yea".

McCain attack Obama? The guy is a dinosaur who can't get out of his own way. The only time he's any good is when he lets one of his staffers write a speech for him. When he runs off at the mouth on his own he's a political disaster.

Butcher, you are a piece of work.
Commie, where the he$$ did that come from? I come here to get a feel for what other conservative are thinking (not rebuplicans). I have always voted republican up to the last 2 elections. I have no desire for more of the same.

Wiseone
you write:

"The mortgage crisis was a corrupt Democrat entitlement production, start to finish."

This is factually untrue. Your statement shows that you really have no idea what went wrong. Of course, it matchess the official Republican talking points, so you feel comfortable repeating it.

A liberal agrees with you
By all means, McCain needs to attack Obama much harder than he has thus far. He needs to say openly and powerfully that Obama is an enemy of this country, that he is a Commmunist and a Muslim, as well as (possibly) a substance abuser. He is also black and has a funny name. I mean, what kind of country is this, when a guy with the middle name "Hussein" could become president?

Subject: Great Article! Hawkins
I agree with everything you said. I also think that the reason the democrats are saying telling the truth is not working is because they do not want the truth getting out.

I always find it amusing
To visit all of my friends at TH. I love the way the Ditto-heads spout the latest wisdom from the Fat Boy.

The excuses and fruitless explanations blaming anyone for anything but your own party.

The absolute belief of a conspiratorial MSM that has it out for Republicans and will do anything to slander and lie about conservatives.

You are spoon-fed your rhetoric by Savage, Coulter and Medved. I'm glad that you are voting because it is your right. But I do have to laugh when I come here and read some of these posts.

I have a hard time determining if they are real or hoaxes. It's like listening to Dr. Laura when she corrals a caller. Who in their right mind would call in with such a stupid question? Is this real?

Yep it's real and scary.

Y'all have a nice weekend and you'd better start fortifying the bunkers cause' when Obama wins we're coming for YOU.


kathy
You opined, "I truly believe we will be attacked by the terroists again. Obama wouldn't know what to do. What do you think he'd do?"

Obama may not wind up doing ANYTHING; if an Obama Administration adopts a soft anti-terror policy that facilitates a terrorist WMD attack on American soil during his tenure, I figure he stands a good chance of being greased in the attack himself.

That's why I don't tend to worry about a terrorist attack on American soil during an Obama presidency; I live in the Kansas City area, and I'm not too concerned that KC is particularly high on the Islamists' hit list - even though we DO have a lot of barbeques out here that serve pork. If an Islamist WMD attack happens on American soil during an Obama administration, I figure one of the big liberal meccas - NYC, L.A., Washington DC, San Francisco, etc. - figures to be at the top of their list, and therefore Democrats/liberals will be overwhelmingly represented in the fatalities count. And that count may easily include Obama himself.

If an Islamist nuke took out most of Manhattan, for example, including the New York Times edifice, I'd hope that at least one prominent Times' writer - say, Maureen Dowd - was away from the site at the time of the blast while her other prominent Times' colleagues weren't. Wonder what she'd have to say about the Obama Administration THEN after attending the funerals of such luminaries as Frank Rich and Paul Krugman and Nicholas Kristof and Thomas Friedman after they'd been vaporized in the attack. Although, probably clueless to the end, I'm sure she'd STILL blame it on George Bush, no matter how long he had been out of the White House.

I'm Sick and Tired of the Republicans
For the last 8 years, Republicans have been whimps...gotta stay on the high road..gotta bend over for the libs to make nice.

STOP IT!!!!!!!

McCain can win this unless ACORN steals it for Obama. McCain can win and he needs Republicans to get behind him and scream it. He needs Republicans to grow some cajones and stop being defeated before it's even over.

STOP IT!!!!!

Two weeks. Get out there and work for him. Spread information. Put up signs. Make calls.

Stop giving up you bunch of mealy mouthed weak pissants. If I didn't know better, I'd think you were Democrats.

STOP IT!!!!


pablo
"The excuses and fruitless explanations blaming anyone for anything but your own party."

Kind of like the Democrats did with Bill Clinton, eh?

Say No To Terrorism/Obama
Say no to Islamic Terrorists. Say No To Obama.

You nailed Obama Andy in Az
I have long said that Obama was a Hand Picked Hand Puppet of the extremists in the DNC and beyond. Look at his Campaign Monies. Over 600 million in campaign funds??? Where does this come from? The same place that his roots are: Islamic Terrorist Nations. His Harvard Law Degree was bought by Sauidi Money. His lifestyle has been financed by this same money. This liar and his lying racist wife, Michelle, said they were paying back student loans. She is a liar. They had no loans and there is no record of those loans. Their Loans or Gifts were from Radical Muslims in this country and from the Middle East. Obama is a communist and would lead this country to damnation with the DNC libs in congress and other traitors giving him directions and pulling his strings.

Jack
"This is factually untrue. Your statement shows that you really have no idea what went wrong. Of course, it matchess the official Republican talking points, so you feel comfortable repeating it."

Why don't you tell us the truth then, instead of just issuing a denial and an insult?

The ads would backfire
Most of these ads are so inflammatory that if McCain ran them, he would be the most hated man in America by election day. Good luck with that!

Obama is Sleazy
Obama is Inexperienced except in Radical Causes. His entire adult life has been spent associating with terrorists, racists and criminals. It is time to send this Chicago Street Hustler back to the streets he came from. Chicago is just sleazy enough for him. The University of Illinois, Chicago Campus, will allow an admitted anti-American Elitist and Terrorist like Bill Ayers to be on their faculty. This tells you a lot about the character of the city of Chicago which gave us the Democrat Daily-Mafia machine politics that is still alive and well, except the Mafia would not have allowed the likes of an Islamic Terrorist Supporter and an American Terrorist like Bill Ayers to occupy air space in Chicago. Even, the Mafia has some standards of decency and were generally patriotic Americans. You can't say that for the present day Chicago Machine that produces the likes of Barack Hussein Obama.

One thing more, Jack
While you're at it, why don't you cite examples that demonstrate that "...it matchess the official Republican talking points."

Give the names, dates, and quotes of "official" Republicans who have said the mortgage collapse is entirely the fault of liberal economic policies pushed and sustained by corrupt Democrats.

If you had read my post with reason and logic you would have seen that one of the things I'm displeased with about the Republicans is that this ISN'T the "official" position of the GOP.

Obama is Dangerous
Obama is the single most dangerous man ever to seek the white house. Where does he get the 600 plus millions to buy propaganda ads. Why does the MSM use their so called news forums as even more Obama Advertising and free of charge while they Denigrate McCain and Palin at every opportunity and report it as news???

There is a very definite Left Wing Conspiracy going on in this Election, and it would not be very pretty for America should this Leftist Scoundrel Obama be elected.

Obama's background is sleazy and even this sleazy background experience is thin. There has never been an election campaign such as this one except in the Staged Elections in the Old USSR. Our MSM outlets are exactly a carbon copy of Pravda and TAss, the Soviet News Agencies of the old Soviet Union.

We do not want or need a Communist President. Since the days of LBJ, the Liberal Democrats have been building a Socialist Bureaucracy, and with a Controlling Congress and Executive Branch in the hands of these traitors, our days as a Sovereign Nation with Rights and Freedoms would be numbered.

The first and second amendment rights will evaporate. With the Liberals pushing for the Fairness Doctrine, Free Speech will end; With the gun laws they propose, the Second Amendment Right to Bury, Register and Bear Arms will be gone; Americans better speak loud and clear on November 4th and Vote McCain-Palin, the only two people standing between a Free and Open Society and Republic and Absolute Tyranny under a Marxist Leadership.

This is no exaggeration. These folks are serious and they are dangerous. Be afraid, real afraid, should Obama be allowed to Steal this election. ACORN is out there committing voter fraud and it is being paid for by my and your tax dollars and by about a million dollars of Obama's Fraudulent Campaign Funds.



Ditto Head Pablo
What country where you born in? Why don't you stick to your communist blogs and stop making yourself look like a fool everytime you try to act as if your word is from God. Give me a break. Why don't you just take your liberal-gays and go live in another country. Far away from here.

Obama is Dangerous-Part 2
Obama is the single most dangerous man ever to seek the white house.


We do not want or need a Communist President. Since the days of LBJ, the Liberal Democrats have been building a Socialist Bureaucracy, and with a Controlling Congress and Executive Branch in the hands of these traitors, our days as a Sovereign Nation with Rights and Freedoms would be numbered.

The first and second amendment rights will evaporate. With the Liberals pushing for the Fairness Doctrine, Free Speech will end; With the gun laws they propose, the Second Amendment Right to Bury, Register and Bear Arms will be gone; Americans better speak loud and clear on November 4th and Vote McCain-Palin, the only two people standing between a Free and Open Society and Republic and Absolute Tyranny under a Marxist Leadership.

This is no exaggeeration. These folks are serious and they are dangerous. Be afraid, real afraid, should Obama be allowed to Steal this election. ACORN is out there committing voter fraud and it is being paid for by my and your tax dollars and by about a million dollars of Obama's Fraudulent Campaign Funds.

Where does a Know Nothing man with only 143 days in the U.S. Senate get over $600 million dollars to buy Propaganda Ads with and How Does a man with Only 143 days in the U.S. Senate get the MSM and networks to Spread Propaganda for him, while trashing his opponents, and even innocent supporters such as Joe, The Plumber?

Makes you wonder, doesen't it? Well, I do not wonder. He is backed by every radical group in the Middle East, as well as by every radical group in Europe, including the Socialists in France, England, and elsewhere.

Obama is a Socialist, pure and simple and we do not want a Socialist Government. Socialist governments are incompetent and the only way they can govern is with a Police State. Do you want a Gestapo to control you? If so, vote Obama. If you love freedom, Vote McCain.

Obama is Dangerous--Part 2


We do not want or need a Communist President. Since the days of LBJ, the Liberal Democrats have been building a Socialist Bureaucracy, and with a Controlling Congress and Executive Branch in the hands of these traitors, our days as a Sovereign Nation with Rights and Freedoms would be numbered.

The first and second amendment rights will evaporate. With the Liberals pushing for the Fairness Doctrine, Free Speech will end; With the gun laws they propose, the Second Amendment Right to Bury, Register and Bear Arms will be gone; Americans better speak loud and clear on November 4th and Vote McCain-Palin, the only two people standing between a Free and Open Society and Republic and Absolute Tyranny under a Marxist Leadership.

This is no exaggeeration. These folks are serious and they are dangerous. Be afraid, real afraid, should Obama be allowed to Steal this election. ACORN is out there committing voter fraud and it is being paid for by my and your tax dollars and by about a million dollars of Obama's Fraudulent Campaign Funds.

Where does a Know Nothing man with only 143 days in the U.S. Senate get over $600 million dollars to buy Propaganda Ads with and How Does a man with Only 143 days in the U.S. Senate get the MSM and networks to Spread Propaganda for him, while trashing his opponents, and even innocent supporters such as Joe, The Plumber?

Makes you wonder, doesen't it? Well, I do not wonder. He is backed by every radical group in the Middle East, as well as by every radical group in Europe, including the Socialists in France, England, and elsewhere.

Obama is a Socialist, pure and simple and we do not want a Socialist Government. Socialist governments are incompetent and the only way they can govern is with a Police State. Do you want a Gestapo to control you? If so, vote Obama. If you love freedom, Vote McCain.

THE SECOND COMING OF HARRY TRUMAN
No republican candidate has ever won the White House without winning the state of Ohio; and the Joe the Plumber phenomenon-which began in that state-is, I believe, an unmistakably auspicious sign that Ohio will go for John McCain in November as it did for Bush in 2004 and spare America the misfortune of a Barack Obama presidency.

The Plumber Joe phenomenon is helping the American people connect the dots between the subprime mortgage catastrophe and Barack Obama's spread the wealth ideology as the financial meltdown was the unintended consequence of another well meaning liberal giveaway program to bring the underclass into the American dream.

For more analysis and insight on the meaning of Joe the Plumber and Obama's coming Truman like defeat click ApolloSpeaks and read Appendix V and VII of John McCain, Hero of Destiny: Signs and Cycles of Republican Victory



just wondering
Does Townhall censor these comments? Let's see if this one makes it through...

Mod Mark
Don't even know why I'm responding to the towering intellect who posted on this site the immortal quote that deserves enshrinement in Bartlett's Famous Quotations, "And why did Christianity take such a drastic change with the birth of Christ?", but here goes.

As far as whether I'd "gleefully dance on the graves of all those vaporized liberals and even justified it with his Bible in hand": I said in a post a few weeks ago that if under an Obama Administration, someone were to tell me that there would be a WMD attack on San Francisco that would vaporize the entire city, and almost every one of the hundreds of thousands killed was gay, would I still want to see such an attack happen, I said I would NOT. Because whatever I may think of homosexuality or any other perversion, I would not welcome such a Sodom and Gomorrah evisceration-type action on American soil. So it goes to show that you're wrong about me - AGAIN.

However, if such an attack that eviscerated large numbers predominately of liberals happens because of naive anti-terror policies under an Obama Administration backed by Nancy Pelosi’s Congress, I would regard it as a fool paying the price for his foolishness. I wouldn't actively WELCOME it - I would love nothing better than for Obama, if president, to be successful in preventing any future terrorist attacks on American soil - but at the same time, if it happens, I'm not going to be blaming MYSELF for it, either, or my fellow conservatives. To me, such an attack would be the effect that follows from the liberal cause.

By the way, the other day, christianlib showed a determination to outdo you as far as, shall we say, distinguishing oneself with particularly breathtaking thinking when, in response to something I submitted about the right to health insurance that this is a consumer product, not an entitlement, he replied (exact quote here), "Health insurance is not a consumer product."

another reactive election
Good column... it is inexplicable why Amnesty John won't go after Hussein... the media is no longer his friend now that a hard left lib is his opponent.

Elections are often reactive-- it is NOT that Barry's message resonates-- it is that Presidente Jorge has so stunk it up, and the voters falsely blame the RINOS for the economic crisis, which has REALLY been caused by the left's required social engineering experiment (mortgages for everybody).

The voters did not so much embrace R.R. as reject Jimma' Carter, who in turn had been elected as a reaction to Watergate. The media's "conservative" Amnesty John IS underwhelming, but Jorge pursued the profligate pointless war, and Jorge grew government like a drunken sailor 'Crat, alienating real conservatives.

Now we will get stuck with the luckiest candidate in memory, who never would have been taken seriously (due to thin resume) had he not had what proved to be an edge at the right time-- the claim to be black... and the press let's his associations hide.

Educate yourself, Jack (Part 1)
A friend sent this to me. You might as well research your denial of this while you're trying to refute mt earlier posts.

Chronology of the Mortgage Mess

If you had any questions about the 'bail out' that was just passed and why it was necessary, read on...

The following is a condensation of a series from the Investor's Business Daily explaining 'What Caused the Loan Crisis':

1977: Pres. Jimmy Carter signs the Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) into law. The law pressured financial institutions to extend home loans to those who would otherwise not qualify. The Premise: Home ownership would improve poor and crime-ridden communities and neighborhoods in terms of crime, investment, jobs, etc.

Results: Statistics bear out that it did not help.

How did the government get so deeply involved in the housing market?

Answer: Bill Clinton wanted it that way.

1992: Republican representative Jim Leach (IA) warned of the danger that Fannie and Freddie were changing from being agencies of the public at large to money machines for the principals and the stockholding few.

1993: Clinton extensively rewrote Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's rules turning the quasi-private mortgage-funding firms into semi-nationalized monopolies dispensing cash and loans to large Democratic voting blocks and handing favors, jobs and contributions to political allies. This potent mix led inevitably to corruption and now the collapse of Freddie and Fannie.

Mod Mark
Another thought here: given the fact that I despise the New York Times and what it has come to stand for, you ought to be glad that if a terrorist nuke eviscerated most of Manhattan, including the Times' edifice, during an Obama administration, that I wouldn't want to see EVERYONE who works for the Times vaporized with it - though I would hardly lament the end of the Times as a continuing extant publication.

No, I would definitely want there to be Times' people left afterward - so that they could grapple with the issue that the very person they practically became campaign staffers for to put in the White House in 2008 was the same one whose policies got their friends and colleagues killed. But, like I said before, those survivors would probably STILL put all the blame on George Bush, even if the attack happened during an Obama SECOND term. I think the cognitive dissonance involved for them to do otherwise would be more than they could bear.

Educate yourself, Jack (Part 2)
1994: Despite warnings, Clinton unveiled his National Home-Ownership Strategy which broadened the CRA in ways congress never intended.

1995: Congress, about to change from a Democrat majority to Republican, Clinton orders Robert Rubin's Treasury Dept to rewrite the rules. Robt. Rubin's Treasury reworked rules, forcing banks to satisfy quotas for sub-prime and minority loans to get a satisfactory CRA rating. The rating was key to expansion or mergers for banks. Loans began to be made on the basis of race and little else.

1997 - 1999: Clinton, bypassing Republicans, enlisted Andrew Cuomo, then Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, allowing Freddie and Fannie to get into the sub-prime market in a BIG way. Led by Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd, congress doubled down on the risk by easing capital limits and allowing them to hold just 2.5% of capital to back their investments vs. 10% for banks. Since they could borrow at lower rates than banks their enterprises boomed.

With incentives in place, banks poured billions in loans into poor communities, often 'no doc', 'no income', requiring no money down and no verification of income. Worse still was the cronyism: Fannie and Freddie became home to out-of work-politicians, mostly Clinton Democrats. 384 politicians got big campaign donations from Fannie and Freddie. Over $200 million had been spent on lobbying and political activities. During the 1990's Fannie and Freddie enjoyed a subsidy of as much as $182 Billion, most of it going to principals and shareholders, not poor borrowers as claimed.

Did it work? Minorities made up 49% of the 12.5 million new homeowners but many of those loans have gone bad and the minority homeownership rates are shrinking fast.

Educate yourself, Jack (Part 3)
1999: New Treasury Secretary, Lawrence Summers, became alarmed at Fannie and Freddie's excesses. Congress held hearings the ensuing year but nothing was done because Fannie and Freddie had donated millions to key congressmen and radical groups, ensuring no meaningful changes would take place. 'We manage our political risk with the same intensity that we manage our credit and interest rate risks,' Fannie CEO Franklin Raines, a former Clinton official and current Barack Obama advisor, bragged to investors in 1999.

2000: Secretary Summers sent Undersecretary Gary Gensler to Congress seeking an end to the 'special status'. Democrats raised a ruckus as did Fannie and Freddie, headed by politically connected CEO's who knew how to reward and punish. 'We think that the statements evidence a contempt for the nation's housing and mortgage markets' Freddie spokesperson Sharon McHale said. It was the last chance during the Clinton era for reform.

2001: Republicans try repeatedly to bring fiscal sanity to Fannie and Freddie but Democrats blocked any attempt at reform; especially Rep. Barney Frank and Sen. Chris Dodd who now run key banking committees and were huge beneficiaries of campaign contributions from the mortgage giants.

2003: Bush proposes what the NY Times called 'the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago'. Even after discovering a scheme by Fannie and Freddie to overstate earnings by $10.6 billion to boost their bonuses, the Democrats killed reform.

Educate yourself, Jack (Part 4)
2005: Then Fed chairman Alan Greenspan warns Congress: 'We are placing the total financial system at substantial risk'. Sen. McCain, with two others, sponsored a Fannie/Freddie reform bill and said, 'If congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole'. Sen. Harry Reid accused the GOP ;of trying to 'cripple the ability of Fannie and Freddie to carry out their mission of expanding homeownership' the bill went nowhere.

2007: By now Fannie and Freddie own or guarantee over HALF of the $12 trillion US mortgage market. The mortgage giants, whose executive suites were top-heavy with former Democratic officials, had been working with Wall St. to repackage the bad loans and sell them to investors. As the housing market fell in '07, subprime mortgage portfolios suffered major losses. The crisis was on, though it was 15 years in the making.

2008: McCain has repeatedly called for reforming the behemoths, Bush urged reform 17 times. Still the media have repeated Democrats' talking points about this being a 'Republican' disaster. A few Republicans are complicit but Fannie and Freddie were created by Democrats, regulated by Democrats, largely run by Democrats and protected by Democrats. That's why taxpayers are now being asked for $700 billion!!

If you doubt any of this, just click the link below and listen to your lawmakers’ own words. They are condemning!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68D9XrqyrWo&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIgqfM5C8lY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9juJr8CSY4&feature=related

Postscript: ACORN is one of the principle beneficiaries of Fannie/Freddie's slush funds. They are currently under indictment or investigation in many states. Barack Obama served as their legal counsel, defending their activities for several years.

For wiseone @ 14:16, 14:19, 14:20
One flaw in your thinking, wiseone: for jackdaw to research, he would actually need to read (and not simply copy/paste/scribble) at a level higher than Alberta-standard 5th-grade.

(from what I've seen of his posts, he may be able to actually reach the BOTTOM third of AB-standard 4th-grade).

wiseone
You are asking way too much from poor ol' Jack. He just has his blinders on and his hands covering ears while he yells "Its Bush's fault!". It is clear that without the CRA bill this would not have happened.

mad mod mark
Your one liners were funny, but now I think the gin and tonic has "done you in". What are you talking about??????

Re: Here is a thought!!
Ever what to know why Obamarxist is appealing to the younger generation? Think on this for awhile, an essayist from Rockwall Texas, was a winner in an essay contest for a scholarship and he won the contest, he was asked what is wrong with this younger generation!! In short his answer was that this younger generation has been raised to believe they are entitled to everything and have been rewarded for laziness and mediocrity. So, why would'nt Obamarxist appeal to the young set? They have no work ethic and scawl like the devil if they don't get what they want!! Something to ponder on!!!

I love it where.....
....Dawkins says, “McCain is going to lose what may literally turn out to be the most important election of our lifetime” unless he unleashes a barrage of adolescent B.S. like the Swift-Boat codgers did to Kerry.

Democrats called the last two presidential elections “the most important in our lifetime”, and they were right, and they lost.

Now Dawkins has the bone headedness to ask “Does he (McCain) want to prevent the Democrats from doing permanent damage to this country over the next four years?” What does he call what Bush has done to the country for the past 8 years, if not ‘permanent damage’?

We need to get a different party in the White House period. It doesn’t matter who heads it.

Response to Dan
I agree with everything you said except I think it would be a good thing for the McCain campaign to follow Dawkins advice. That would absolutely secure the election for Obama.

But it's probably too late for any kind of new approach, negative or positive. A significant number of people have already voted. All anybody can do now is wait until November 4 to count them.

Mod Mark
Like I said before, I wouldn't WISH a catastrophic WMD attack on ANY place in America under Obama if he is our next president - even if someone could guarantee me, and I actually believed the guarantee, that such an attack would ensure that conservatives would occupy the White House for the rest of my lifetime, and even if I was assured and believed that it would be in a place where almost all the casualties would be Democrats/liberals. Even the massacre of millions of American liberals would not be an acceptable price in my mind to get long-term conservative control in Washington DC.

If Obama is our next president, I sincerely hope that he IS successful at preventing another major terrorist attack on American soil. And that a lot of the dire things many of us conservatives who come to this board, including myself, have predicted will befall this nation if Obama is our next president never come to pass. If that turns out to be the case, I'll be delighted to be proven badly wrong - and I'd gladly accept the mocking of Obama's supporters about it, too.

However, there is a reason you don't give the keys to your car to your 10-year-old so that he can take it for a spin, or hire a man with a prison record for embezzlement, even if he says he's reformed and you actually believe him, to be your company chief financial officer no matter how much you wish the two only the best in the endeavors which you're entrusting to them. Because no matter how much you may want someone to succeed in an endeavor, what he brings to that endeavor is hardly irrelevant to what the outcome of the endeavor will be. And in the case of Obama, backed by a Nancy Pelosi-led Congress, I believe these parties are bringing a dangerously flawed worldview to leadership in Washington DC - and like a building constructed with dangerous flaws, it will only be a matter of time before the real-world consequences from those flaws manifest.

Well put Sandishground..
I like your input. I just wish people could give a little more respect to Mr. Hawkins. He is entitled to also write his opinion. I'm glad we still have our freedom of speech. I'm just wondering for how long??? I don't trust Biden or Obamba and that Pelosi, yuck. She is an embarrassement to all women. I immediately change the station when she comes on. Gee, I wonder if they have ever calculated how much $$ she spent on her clothes. They aren't even nice looking on her. Sorry, just telling like I see it.

SPOT ON ARTICLE, JOHN EXCEPT
You forgot Raila Odinga, the murderous Kenyan Marxist for whom Obama campaigned in 2006:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1823883/obama_backing_islamic _terror_regime_in_kenya/

P.S. BO can't claim he was "8 years old."

Great Strategy PLUS ...
For McCain to Win also ...

Obama wants to nationalize 401K's --

Obama's birth certificate has been forged -- he used his Indonesian passport to go to Pakistan -- how amazing to have a President who is not a legal citizen!

The ENTIRE world financial meltdown has been two reasons:

Reason One: Democrats in Congress

Democrats failed to vote for Republicans trying to divert fall of Freddie and Fannie in 2005 -- McCain was the co-sponsor ... Democrats voted 100% against, Republicans 100% for taking action!

Reason Two: National Security/OPEC

Our gas prices skyrocketed at the exact time the sub-prime housing market was falling ... national security says that OPEC could have pushed us into the world meltdown. Yet, Obama and Democrats will NOT drill -- AND oil can be retrieved much faster than Democrats tell you -- some scientists say 2 years!

Lastly, Obama worked as a community organizer for Project Vote (a sister organization of ACORN), was a lawyer and trainer for ACORN -- citizens are paying now for ACORN -- an organization, along with Obama, who are trying to steal the election!

Clear thinking americans are outraged!





Patriot
Thank you for the web site. I reminds me of the movie of the anti-Christ I watched a few years ago. It's scary, even the way Hussein smiles and waves, like he is the great One to change your lives. I can't believe this is really happening in our country. I hope all the others on this site go and review this before you put in your vote. I hope you can see what Obama really stands for.

how about something new-hope and history
The other day people at work were discussing the death with dignity inititive on the ballot in my state. The theme of comments were that it was not humane to force a terminaly suffering person to continue suffering, and why not allow doctors to be able to prescribe a leathal dose of drugs. I said how about the hippocratic oath do no harm. The unanimous reply from 7 adults was "dont impose your christian religious views on us" to which I replied the hippocratic oath originates from a greek philosopher and has nothing to do with christianity and has been a basic tenat of western medicine longer then the christian religion has been around. The response.... deer caught in the headlight.

My freinds if your going to win you better educate with history and show how conservative ideas,scratch that, western ideas can bring hope for the future.


Kathy
The re-instatement of the Fairness Doctrine, and the ancillary attempts to stifle conservative speech, is precisely one of the "dire things many of us conservatives who come to this board have predicted will befall this nation if Obama is our next president" that I'd absolutely love to be wrong about if Obama is our next president.

However, I simply cannot ignore, or pretend is inconsequential, the record of Obama and Pelosi and many liberals like them. Obama and Pelosi have a very clear agenda they've been actively pursuing even before Obama may get handed the keys to the White House. IF he gets handed the keys to the White House, I see no reason to believe that the Obama/Pelosi agenda won't be pursued with even more fervent zeal - especially since it will be clear that the far left will have become the ascendant power in the Democratic Party.

Another "dire thing" I'd love to be wrong about with Obama is my belief that an Obama/Pelosi leadership in Washington DC would vigorously try to force same-sex marriage down the throats of the American people. But when I hear Obama say he wants to repeal the Defense of Marriage Act, despite his SUPPOSED opposition to gay marriage - well, what else are conservatives supposed to conclude from THAT?

What Obama TRULY believes is plain for all to see. It's possible he may have a moderating epiphany after he gets into the White House, IF he gets into it - but it hasn't happened up until now.

By the way, I like your input too. In fact, many of the strong conservative women who post here - Lolo1, Mother of 4, Summers, Anne, Mountain Rose, LuLu, Mrs. Paddy, yourself, and others - are among my favorite conservative posters here.


If he wants to win he needs to stop this
Police Say Volunteer Lied About Attack
By JOE MANDAK, AP
Crime News, Election
(Oct. 24) - A McCain campaign volunteer made up a story of being robbed, pinned to the ground and having the letter "B" scratched on her face in a politically inspired attack, police said Friday.

ModMark
Ive read all about cato saying CRA had nothing to do with it. I look at all the evidence myself though and say otherwise. I do not have to take a single institutions word for it if I believe they are wrong.

Mod Mark
I actually HAVE been to NYC, several times in fact, although not for several years. One time I was there, in 1988, I went to the top of the World Trade Center. Glad I did it while I still had the opportunity. In fact, I've also been out to your neck of New York, as I've been to Niagara Falls several times (had relatives, now since deceased, who lived in Buffalo) and made a bunch of trips along the length of the New York State Thruway (the service areas along which I've always been fond of, by the way). Don't see myself going back any time soon, simply because there's not much reason for me to go to the Northeast anymore, and in any case the vast majority of my traveling nowadays is to places within reasonable driving distance (say, about 600 miles) of Kansas City - and the East Coast definitely isn’t.

Regarding Obama and security, unfortunately, you're probably right insofar as it takes many government workers to ensure our security by actually carrying out the directives of the administration - and large federal bureaucracies aren't exactly known for being diligent in their chartered responsibilities after a certain point.

That having been said, the next president of the United States now knows very well what kind of a world he now lives in and will have to operate in as president. As far as I'm concerned, if a man wants the job of president in the age of terrorism, he is openly accepting primary responsibility for the security of this nation, REGARDLESS of what went on before. Therefore, whichever man is elected, I don't want to hear any excuses about what the previous presidential administrations did or didn't do or what the agencies of the federal government should or shouldn't have done in the area of domestic security. Whoever wants the job of president from this point forward had better have the stuff to get the things done that will keep us safe - and if he doesn't feel he's up to that task, then he shouldn't be seeking the office.

Patriotic
Obama never campaigned for Odinga, and that website doesn't show that he did. It's innuendo and propoganda that can't be backed up with any type of evidence.

Obama was photographed with numerous Kenyans while visiting there, Odinga being one of hundreds. Other than the photo, what evidence is presented to support your claim?

McCAIN
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT GOV. PALIN IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A BACKBONE ON THIS TICKET.HE HAS THE WORST ADVISERS I'VE SEEN SINCE BOB BECKEL.I THINK McCAINS ADVISERS ARE SECRETLY WORKING FOR OBAMA.ALL THE IDIOTS THAT VOTE FOR OBAMA ARE GOING TO GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT. THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THIS GREAT COUNTRY INTO A DEEP DEPRESSION.THEY ARE GOING TO GET THE BIGGEST WELFARE STATE IN THE WORLD.THE SO CALLED MIDDLE CLASS WILL BE ON WELFARE ALSO BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE ANY JOBS.I SURE HOPE NOT BUT I THINK THERE WILL BE A CIVIL WAR.OBAMA,PISSLOSI AND WEASEL REID ARE GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO SILENCE TRUE AMERICANS.ANYBODY THAT VOTES FOR OBAMA
ARE THROWING THEIR CHILDREN AND AMERICA TO THE DOGS.BARRY SOETO AKA BARRACK OBAMA IS A FRAUD.
GOD BLESS THE CHILDREN OBAMANUTS SURE DON'T CARE FOR THEIR CHILDREN.

Pancho
I would have thought that the INITIAL video was enough.

"Initially, Mr. Odinga was not the favored opposition candidate to stand in the 2007 election against President Mwai Kibaki, who was seeking his second term. However, he received a tremendous boost when Sen. Barack Obama arrived in Kenya in August 2006 TO CAMPAIGN on his behalf. Mr. Obama denies that supporting Mr. Odinga was the intention of his trip, but his actions and local media reports tell otherwise."

http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/12/obamas-kenya-ghos ts/

How about this from WBBM NEWS CHICAGO (MSM) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpvLV3d1Eq4&eurl=



Typical lib tactic
Mo Mark writes:

"Here is a interesting article concerning CRA, has a computer geek twist..

Should CRA Stand for“Community Redundancy Act

http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv23n3/gunther.pdf"

But if you read the article Mark links, which carries no date, it is apparent that it was written prior to the mortgage crash by a conservative who not only was arguing that we didn't need CRA, but that CRA might be exposing us to risks that wouldn't be realized until the next downturn in the economy.

The author is NOT arguing that we would have had this crash without CRA. He is arguing the opposite; that we could have enjoyed the benefits of an expanded mortgage market into the low income sector without forcing banks to abandon the safeguards that helped them avoid bad loans.

But libs being libs, they can't help but twist this dissertation by Gunther on its head and claim that he is contending that CRA had nothing to do with the crash.

No sale. CRA had everything to do with the crash. One can debate the extent to which low income earners would have qualified for loans without it, but there is no question that hundreds of billions in bad loans and corruption would not have evolved without it.

HEY PATRIOTIC WILL THIS WORK
JUST WATCH HIM GET OFF THE PLANE AND SEE WHO IS WAITING FOR HIM AND YES HE DOES CAMPAIGN FOR HIM
I JUST HAVE NOT BEEN HEARING ANYTHING ABOUT OBAMA'S FORMER DISTRICT. THEY SAY ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS
GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE IN OBAMA AND ODINGA
OBAMA FORMER DISTRICT
OBAMA ABORTION
Obama: "I Don't Care How Poor You Are"
hObama and Odinga Campaign in Kenya IT SHOWS

OBAMA GETTING OFF THE PLANE IN KENYA AND ODINGA MEETING HIM. YOU HAVE TO SEE WHY IS THIS NOT BEING REPORTED
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6eVVVKFHu0

Barack Obama & Raila Odinga
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGxzqwRJUzM

AMERICAN IF OBAMA IS ELECTED

OBAMA FORMER DISTRICT

Barack Obama's district - his american idol tour - 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjkH8NEoOUY

SHARON
Great Post. Probably not enough for the brainwashed though.

OBAMA AND DEMOCRATS FINANCIAL CRISIS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAF6vNtEgGA Real reason for financial crisis.. (for Obama supporters)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rpoYvsc3ho The Real Reason for the Financial Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EyKiOE78yU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64 EVIDENCE FOUND!!! Clinton administration's "BANK AFFIRMATIVE ACTION" They forced banks to make BAD LOANS and ACORN and Obama's tie to all of it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0 Explosive Video, Fannie Mae CEO calling Obama and the Dems the "Family" and "Conscience" of Fannie Mae

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnZMGDG4k4 Congressional Democrats = Fannie & Freddie Economic Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3Ij9eEJ0NU Financial Meltdown-Obama opposed regulation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nU3fNh-PRk Follow the Money: How Fannie Mae Bought the Democrat Party

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPSDnGMzIdo Democrats were WARNED of Financial crisis and did NOTHING

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE Bill Clinton Agrees That Democrats Caused Financial Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbkEAR2GgiA Barack Obama & Friends Caused U.S. Economic Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WW3rOXJTo70 Democrats Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Economic Crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaABV1CWXug BANNED video by OBAMA campaign showing DEMOCRATS GUILTY for the economic crisis we are in. Nancy pelosi, barney frank, meeks, maxine waters fannie mae freddie mac predatory lending practices legislated by the democrats to blame for collapse

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190 PROOF JOHN MCCAIN TRIED TO WARN ABOUT FANNIE AND FREDDIE CONGRESSIONAL RECORD



JOHN MCCAIN/SARAH PALIN
IT IS TIME THAT JOHN MCCAIN GOT TOUGH ON THE ISSUES AND START TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE TRUTH.

Don't forget gas...
I think that McCain can easily win by making commercials which point out how Senator Obama will raise taxes, take more of our money, and support policies along with a failing democratic congress which will raise gas prices. McCain supports nuclear power - imagine a cheaper electric bill. Obama will hit American's in the pocket really hard. I hope McCain lets people know that.

texaschuck
you wrote: "Bring up Wright on his 9-11 comments and his America created AIDS.And SUGGEST!!! Obama agrees with him.Does not matter that Obama condemmed the remarks."

He only condemned the remarks when they became politically uncomfortable for him.
Seriously, would you sit there for 20 years and listen to that?
He didn't leave and he didn't speak up.
Which either means he agreed or he didn't have the spine to object.
Which?

the BARR vote
I just heard that McCain can only expect 24% of the hispanic vote (Bush got 44%). That's a real shame (and unfair to McCain), but I think we can thank you "real conservatives" who managed to trash hispanics last year in the process of protesting immigration reform. Not content to speak against the bill, you managed to cast republicans as anti-hispanic racists (which many of you are).

You brilliant strategists think that somehow people are going to look at the paltry barr vote as a signficant thing that loses the election for republicans (who will then magically move to the right). You can also take credit for the 20% of hispanics who got trashed, but that won't be counted as a cry to move right.

No. How it will be seen:.
Obama and the dems will claim that people of all backgrounds have given them a mandate.

Nice goin' you geniuses.

Mod Mark
"I found interesting with it, the effects of the IT industry had on the banks ie: instant approvals, real estate databases, instant credit checks."

Yes, that was all in there. But I didn't find a date on the article. What was also missing from the article was any reference to whether CRA had any effect on the recent crash. That's what led me to conclude it was written well before the crash.

Most importantly, the normal high-tech and free market forces referred to by the author would nothave prevented lenders from denying loans to unqualified applicants the way Clinton's bastardized version of Carter's CRA did.

SunThe1..Kind of what YOU doing NOW?
Conservatives NEVER bashed Hispanics...Just ILLEGALS...Maybe your confused ... or tuned into the wrong Media for your info ...sheesh :)

Uh, no
>local media reports tell otherwise.<

http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_19887 40,00.html

We have a local newspaper account of that speaking event, that makes no mention of any political support for Odinga. According to the article the topic was primarily about fighting malaria and HIV. Odinga's presence there, like the 9 other local community leaders who were there, was as the local member of parliament.

At Obama's next speaking event later that day he was quoted as saying, "I am here not as a grandson anymore but as a senator and a representative of the US government." and, "When I’m here I’m not on my own but accountable to the American Government. This visit is to strengthen partnership between the US and Kenyan government."

Hawkins- bad advice
Yes, these are all things we wish could somehow be made explicit to those voters who just now tuned in. But for McCain himself to launch into the attacks you suggest would be counterproductive.
Look where it got Hillary.

If we had a press, they would be doing it.

SunThe1
I agree that several of Hawkins' ideas are just simply not going to work, at least not by this late date.

Unfortunately, it appears that so many people are so tired of the Bush Administration that they figure that ANY alternative that wears a "D" attached to his name HAS to be better.

I don't know what you can do to make people see who are apparently content to stay willfully blind. Maybe what needs to happen is that they need to be allowed to experience the full monty regarding the choice they make for president if they choose Obama. If Obama proves to be the disaster as president so many think he'll be, maybe when a lot of Americans have suffered quite measurably personally from the policies he'll institute, they'll finally learn to look more carefully next time at whom they decide should lead the country.

Of course, as you'll recall, I've opined in previous days that if one of those disastrous policies is a WMD terrorist attack(s) on America that kills tens or hundreds of thousands and leaves a good bit or most or effectively all of a major U.S. city(ies) in ruins, I believe Obama, joined by the Democratic majority in Congress, would make a serious attempt to get future national elections postponed "indefinitely" - meaning, in perpetuity - under some expansive interpretation of a state of national emergency and public practicality. Because after such an attack, I don't believe the Democrats could afford to risk subjecting themselves to a popular vote and possible lose the grip on the levers of power in Washington DC for maybe the next 30 to 50 years.

stand
Yes I do recall. As I have said it is a scary thought, only because it has a ring of plausibility.
Scarier to me by far tho is this: that instead of something that would shock people into action and revolt, we would instead have a slow steady decline. That people would stop paying attention. Stop being passionate. Get too comfortable with their own entitlement goodies. Be boiled frogs. And simply slide into becoming the european-like socialist commune that people like Ayers envision.

Ignore MSM and Polls--Vote McCain
The MSM media has no more credibility than does the Democrat Party and their Hand Picked Hand Puppet Obama. They are doing everything they can to Steal this election and hand us over to Socialism which would be complete should we Americans be foolish enought to elect this Questionable Candidate, Barack Obama. With a packed congress of Socialists such as Pelosi and Frank and others and a Puppet of theirs, Obama, every piece of legislation that the Marxists are sitting on would be rushed through congress and handed over to their Puppet, Obama to sign into laws. Things like taking away all State's Rights guaranteed by the Constitution, such as eradicating all state laws that put any limits on Abortion, such as Parent Notification for minors. Obama and the Liberal Democrats do not think that parents have any rights over their own children's lives. They want all the Children to Belong to the State. Things like the so-called Fairness Doctrine, which would end free speech on radio talk shows. Things like Abolishing The Right To Own Guns, a second amendment guarantee that we have so that we can defend ourselves from Thugs and Despots. Things like destroying the military and spending the monies now being spent on defense to fund UN initiatives such as World Welfare and expanding American Welfare to Illegal Aliens and others. Also, this Marxist Congress with a Marxist President would pack the courts with Marxist Judges, and the end of American Democracy with Checks and Balances as is our tradition.

Better wake up America, An Obama Presidency is a Clear and Pesent Danger to our National Sovereignty and individual freedoms.

MY FRIENDS AND WIFE
For the first time in 42 years of marriage my wife has been following this election thing
and she said after many weeks of listening and reading and watching I WOULD FEEL BETTER ABOUT MC CAIN WINNING IF(ARE YOU READY FOR THIS)IF
SARAH WASN'T ON THE TICKET ! We don't care for her...sorry folks just being honest! We are not in love with Mc cain...but we feel he could have chosen someone with more indepth knowledge
oh well...my friends feel the same!
elvis

Sarah THE AUTHENTIC
Me thinks we have the wrong person running for president. If it were not for Gov. Palin, MCDOLE would behind by 30 points....eat your hear out "THE VIEW".

Not getting a fair shake
McCain and Palin will never get fair coverage from this crooked media. They can cut and paste anyone and distort the truth. Palin has been made to look like a complete fool. Every woman in America should be outraged, instead of buying into the bimbo image of her. That's unbelieveable. Where is your brain?! She's the only one running with executive experience. The media couldn't do enough to McCain so they decided they would just pick on someone who they consider an outsider. Don't we need an outsider at this point? An accomplished outsider? We sure don't need the likes of Obama. In all my years of voting, this is the first time I've actually been scared for our country. I consider any Obama voter an idiot.

sarah and bob of calif.
Bob, 30 points behind 10 points behind still a loss regardless of Sarah!
Iam amazed at the gop people who are saying ,sarah didn't do anything shady,etc. Not
sooooo! But people can rave all they want she has been scratching backs up there ! Her money approach is similiar to bush...tax cut but spend baby as long as it's your money!
The best we can hope for is that after 2 miserable years the public will wake up and
replace obama,demo congress!
elvis
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