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Friday, May 30, 2008
John Hawkins :: Townhall.com Columnist
Top Seven Reasons Why Barack Obama is a Weaker Candidate Than People Think
by John Hawkins
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John McCain is having a very tough time uniting conservatives and the political winds seem to be at the Democrats' backs; so many people seem to think that Barack Obama will win in a walk in November. However, that's probably not going to be the case.

In a normal year, where the public was more closely divided between the Dems and the GOP, McCain would be capable of wiping out a candidate as weak as Obama in a landslide of Dukakis-esque proportions. With that in mind, even in a year like this, where Obama has a huge advantage, chances are that if he wins, he'll have to pull it off by coming in on the right side of a 2000/2004 style squeaker of an election.

Here's a short but sweet primer that will help explain why that's the case:

Howard Dean 2.0

Although the mainstream media is working hard to cover for him, Obama is the most gaffe prone candidate to run for the Presidency on the Democratic side since Howard Dean. Some of his greatest hits include:

"You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

"You know, the truth is that right after 9/11, I had a (flag) pin. Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we're talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for, I think, true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security, I decided I won't wear that pin on my chest..."

"Over the last 15 months, we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states? I think one left to go."

Remember all the flack poor Dan Quayle caught for his "potato" snafu? Well, Barack Obama makes Dan Quayle look like Einstein.

Obama's Entourage

Whether you're talking about slum lord Tony Rezko, unrepentant terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, Barack's anti-white "sounding board" and pastor Jeremiah Wright, or his chief strategist, lobbyist David Axelrod, Obama has an offputting cast of characters around him -- and that's not even counting his wife, "Teresa Heinz" Obama, who's almost as gaffe prone as her husband.

He's Not Qualified To Be President

In a post-911 world, where the next President is going to be handling the war on terrorism, trying to prevent another 9/11, and dealing with a whole host of critical domestic issues, there is absolutely nothing in Barack Obama's background that indicates he's up to the job.

Given the situation, are the American people going to choose a young, mistake-prone, extremely inexperienced senator with a history of hard drug use and a knack for making basic geography errors -- over a 72 year old POW with more than 20 years worth of experience in Congress? Whatever you may think of McCain, even a lot of liberals would probably be willing to admit in private that they'd rather have him taking that 3 AM phone call after a major terrorist attack than Obama.

The Demographics Disaster

Hillary Clinton has beaten Barack Obama in key swing states like Florida, Michigan, West Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The latest polling numbers from Gallup seem to be indicating that voters in those states still haven't warmed up to Barry,

In the 20 states where Hillary Clinton has claimed victory in the 2008 Democratic primary and caucus elections (winning the popular vote), she has led John McCain in Gallup Poll Daily trial heats for the general election over the past two weeks of Gallup Poll Daily tracking by 50% to 43%. In those same states, Barack Obama is about tied with McCain among national registered voters, 45% to 46%.

This is largely because Obama is being carried to victory in the Democratic primary by black voters, young voters, and upscale liberal voters, all of which are groups that the Democratic candidate will carry in November anyway. Meanwhile, Hillary is looking considerably stronger with white women, older Americans, and Hispanic votes -- exactly the sort of swing voters that will decide the election.

Yes, Obama is probably going to beat Hillary for the nomination, but if that turns out to be the case, the better woman, at least as far as electability goes, will have lost.

From The Post-Racial Candidate To Al Sharpton 2.0

Perhaps the most appealing aspect of Barack Obama's candidacy was his post-racial rhetoric. Here was a candidate who rejected the whole race baiting meme that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have turned into careers. That was incredibly appealing to white Americans, many of whom would like nothing better than to prove that America is not a racist country by electing a black President.

However, in the last few months, the mask has slipped and people have started to realize that Obama is the same tired package wrapped in a shiny new bow. He befriended Jeremiah Wright and spent two decades attending his virulently anti-white church. Why else would he do that if he didn't share his views? Then there's the fact that Obama couldn't be the Democratic Party's nominee if black voters were not supporting him in such great numbers because of his skin color. It's also impossible not to note that although Obama doesn't personally call people racists for not supporting him, his supporters do it constantly on his behalf without being rebuked. So Obama may pretend to eschew race baiting, but he's certainly content to reap the rewards of it.

Obama may be a lot of things, but it has become pretty obvious at this point that he really doesn't intend to be the President who helps America put the race issue in the rear view mirror.

Northern Liberals Lose

National Journal ranked Barack Obama as the single most liberal member of the Senate in 2007. Keep in mind that means Ted Kennedy? Not as liberal as Barack Obama. What about Bernie Sanders, a self-described socialist? Not as liberal as Barack Obama.

The reality is that the GOP has been beating liberals, particularly Northern liberals like Barack Obama, for a long, long time. Look back at George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Michael Dukakis, and John Kerry. What's the difference between those guys and Barack Obama? Only color and the fact that Obama is even further to the left than those other candidates that the American people thought were too liberal to be President.

Alien Vs. Predator: The Democratic Edition

The long, brutal Democratic primary fight has been extremely costly for Obama. Not only has the fight drained Obama's coffers, it has had his pals in the MSM focusing on Hillary instead of McCain. Most importantly, Hillary's supporters have started becoming very, dare I say it, "bitter" about the unfair way that their candidate has been treated.

According to Gallup, 28% of Hillary's supporters would vote for McCain over Obama -- and that was back in March! Although there hasn't been much recent polling on this subject, you have to think that those numbers have only grown as the infighting between the candidates and their supporters has gotten ever more nasty and personal in the last few weeks. Now, will that many Democrats actually defect? No, but a significant chunk of those disaffected Hillary loyalists will either vote for McCain or stay home. If McCain wins the election, this factor alone could end up being decisive.

Conclusion: It's impossible to say at this early date who would win a McCain vs. Obama match-up in November, but what we can say with certainty is that even though this is shaping up to be a bad year for the GOP, Obama is very beatable.

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Ordinarily I would agree with you
but this has been the election of the sorries. Each candidate has tried to be the sorriest candidate in the race and the first to lose.

McLame has decided that since the Democrat candidates are so bad he should run as a Democrat. He decided that about 5 years ago and has been arranging his voting record to match.

No, as soon as the commies get done eating each other they and the MSM will turn on McLame. Since the base will vote for Barr it will be a blowout.

The only real question is will enough of the conseravtives go to the polls to give it to Barr?

What I need to see...
... are seven reasons McCain is stronger than most people think. I'm already tired of his high-mindedness regarding the up-coming campaign. He seems to project that he is ready to lose, so long as honor is served. Maybe because he met true evil, and can't see its likeness in mere political rivalry. But he faces an opponent with a more limited scope who will pull out all stops to win. I fear his experience & wisdom will work against him.

Barr--I hope so
As a Conservative, I can't vote for McCain and no longer waste my time listening to his drivel.

I eagerly anticipate debates including McCain, Obama and Bob Barr. Barr will hand McCain and Obama their heads on platters.

Obama - putting race behind us?
Has Obama ever been asked to comment on the issue of Reparations to Black Americans for the slavery of their ancestors? If not, he should be asked to do so. I would want to know his stand on the issue, as it may give an indication to his true feelings on the theme of "putting race behind us as a nation".

I am confident that there are many more skeletons in his closet related to his character than we currently are aware. He talks about the need to focus on issues, and until he answers questions clearly and without deferring or being invasive, he will be skillfully defeated by someone with greater experience who is willing to discuss issues of character.

signed,
Leaning towards experience!

SNAFU
You will never see a debate with Barr included. The media will never contemplate that.

Afraid you're right, Vic
The MSM will never permit Barr to participate in debates. He would embarrass their chosen ones, McCain and Obama.

Barr's qualifications actually qualify him for the job, especially when compared to the doddering dolt McCain and pecksniffian pupa Obama, and that upsets the media, who believe it their right to govern.

NO, NO, NO !
i dont agree about that.

Barack Obama is the best candidate for America.

http://allainjulesblog.blogspot.com/

debate expansion?
If Barr gets to appear, then why not Nader?


SNAFU
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SNAFU
Location: GA

Reply # 6
Date: May 30, 2008 - 3:16 AM EST Afraid you're right, Vic
The MSM will never permit Barr to participate in debates. He would embarrass their chosen ones, McCain and Obama.

Barr's qualifications actually qualify him for the job, especially when compared to the doddering dolt McCain and pecksniffian pupa Obama, and that upsets the media, who believe it their right to govern. "

YOU NAILED IT!

Our candidates were chosen by the MSM. This way, they win, we lose, regardless of who gets in.


Wow
It just amazes me how alot of Americans are lost sheep, and believe and vote based on months, or in this case years of 3 minute soundbytes they hear on the network news. If people want a government run like B.hussein wants it run, why don't they just go up, and become loyal citizens of Canada? Then they can have free(yeah right, free my butt!) health care, and all the other social programs that 60% income taxes will give you!

TSGT USAF, RET.
TSGT USAF, RET.

Suggest you do not post personal name, location, or email address on TH.

Reason, a few posters have had death threats, AND, it is also know that Mid-East operatives monitor this site as 'lurkers'.

The above rank, service and retired are plenty.

~~~

FTG2 USN ~ 6 years service.


Bob Barr is
Ross Perot redux....Those who bought his spiel found out the hard way when we got stuck with bubba.. fool me once etc etc.

He is a spoiler who can not be elected and may result in us getting stuck again...with obambi and all that entails.

If he loves his country, he'll get off his ego trip and work to defeat that marxist he rails about.

Depends on the ROP
As always, *the kids* (who would be adults in any country except this one and Canada) will stay home in droves on Election Day, paying far more attention to their new Sex And The City DVD or watching LOTR Marathons in the basement. As for what the adults will do, that depends wholly on the Religion of Peace. If as always they overplay their hand and blow up some really important target (not a stupid high rise business building -- American liberals hate us as much as they hate the enemy -- but a grade school or daycare centre, under the delusion that we will cave like Spain and elect the coward, McCain will win in a walkover because Obama will be out there wringing his hands and blaming America while the rest of the liberals will be remembering what war is all about.

An Ordinary Man
The story of this campaign will be, ultimately, how very average and ordinary Obama turned out to be. There is nothing new about Obama - nearly every one of his ideas has been tried somewhere else - and it hasn't worked. It just happens to be packaged a little more slickly.

And here's what we DON'T know about the Obama vote. How do we KNOW that he's gotten all the votes he had not because he was so great, but for two other possible reasons:

1) Even Dems may be sick of the Clintons and their vote was more anti-hillary than pro-Obama, especially early on when little was known about him; and

2) This primary is the perfect opportunity for people to soothe their guilty white consciences and vote for the black man, when there's no 'risk' to them doing so. That way, they can convince themselves that they are really nice, open-minded people, and it becomes the 'cool' thing to do. When faced with the reality of a soul brother to Karl Marx in the general, they might think twice.

And I'm pretty sure so many people show up at Obama rallies because they are hopeful he will feed them with two fish and five loaves of bread.

Vice president for Obama
First, remember that war experienced Bob Dole was easily beaten by a certifiable draft dodger. So much for military experience resonating with the voting public.

That said, however, I think Obama is going to innoculate himself on the military issue by choosing Jim Webb as his VP

a different day
Unfortunately, this is a different day, and Lucifer is deeply invested in Mohammed's Child.

Also, the Republicans have chosen their only candidate who is determined to drive away their conservative base.

As for the Barr character--who will he take as his running mate, Barney Frank?

ms

Clinton Felt ‘White’ Entitlement


At Obama’s Church, Chicago Minister Says Clinton Felt ‘White’ Entitlement

FOX-Another Chicago minister is causing headaches for Barack Obama after he told the Democratic candidate’s church congregation Sunday that Hillary Clinton felt entitled to the presidency because she’s white.

Catholic pastor Michael Pfleger, who is white, issued a formal apology for his sermon Thursday after Obama put out a statement saying he was “deeply disappointed” by Pfleger’s remarks at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

“I regret the words I chose on Sunday. These words are inconsistent with Senator Obama’s life and message, and I am deeply sorry if they offended Senator Clinton or anyone else who saw them,” Pfleger said.

watch

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/at-obama%e2%80%99s -church-chicago-minister-says-clinton-felt-%e2%80%98white%e 2%80%99-entitlement

I don't see it...
Democrats are not going to flock to McCain in November. He is going to pickup some "greenies" but it won't be enough to offset the conservative run-off.

This is Perot redux alright, which means that Obama only needs about 40 odd percent of the democrat vote. Even a weak candidate should be able to muster that number.

concentration camp
don't forget how is "uncle" was the FIRST soldier to liberate the prisioners at Auwzwitch(sp?).....the guy is a JOKE....

Obama: dumber than a fifth grader
and he will be rejected - pecanrancher is right - Obummer is a joke, the sock puppet of the ultra-left - a radical anti-American - a socialist who will destroy our capitalist economy and drag us to a third-world status. He is naive and soooo arrogant - THE worst characteristic for anyone.
NO BO!

Seawolf
WRONG

Perot was a liberal besided being a nut. Barr will not "give" the election to O'Vomit, it is his already. Real conservatives have already decided to NOT vote for McLame. If they do not go down and vote for Barr they are likely to stay at home and not vote for ANY Republicrats.

Barr is a non-factor
Barr will have less impact on the right than Nadar on the left. The unfortunate truth is, the people who dislike McCain the most (conservatives - about 25% of voters) will vote for him anyway.

All wacky leftist will vote for Obama (about 25% of the voters)

The balance of Americans who are rather apolitical will vote for McCain just because he's not a complete wacko leftist. The demographics argument is very strong, McCain is likely to win Michigan, Pennsylvania, Florida, and New Hampshire. Even if Obama picks and Ohio running mate and takes Ohio, there's no way for him to win given that scenario.

In truth, given the strengthen of the Hispanic vote, Juan McCain could win California.

This landslide McCain victory is likely to be the best thing that could happen to the Democrats.

OBAMA PASTORS & CLINTON ENTITLEMENT
Hear we go again another of Obama PASTOR comes out and slam Mrs. Clinton, this time he thinks that she thinks that she is entitle to the TOP job?? what is going on in that church??? why all the applause for this crap spewing from their mouth???? what other skeleton is out there??? and just listen to Chris Matthew EXPLAINING IT AWAY AS NOTHING, makes me sick!!!!! This man (Obama) sat in that church for TWENTY years, are you telling me that some of that crap has not rub off on him??? If that was Clinton pastor there would have being a hue and cry to hang her up high!! it just goes to show the double standard of the PRESS AND ALL THE CLINTON HATERS, I want to throw up!!!.

Because of all this PASTOR thing does that makes him (Obama) thinks that he is ENTITLE to the top spot??? his he biding his time until he get the job and then make us pay??? NO ONE KNOWS OBAMA!!!! he came out of no where and every one falls over themselves to give him the top spot.
Every time some thing comes out the press give him a pass, like the grandfather war thing.I just want to know if all the teaching in church has made him feel above campaign in the BLUE COLLAR STATES, and that is why HE ONLY CAMPAIGN IN THE HIGHER PAYING WELL EDUCATED STATES,is that telling us something??? .

And last but least the party will get their man but lose the end game because they fail to notice that their EMPEROR IS WITHOUT CLOTHES!!! I AM SO DONE WITH THIS POLITIC BECAUSE IT IS ONE-SIDED!!! MY TELLY WILL GO TO GAME SHOWS THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! GOD WANT US TO PREACH LOVE FORGIVENESS NOT HATE!!!!!

John
Among the seven reasons, that you have given relating to Mr.Obama's weakness,it appears, that Mr.McCain's strength is missing.Is that to appear your next "Foray" into fiction.No White House dinners in your future!!!

Like Dr. Sowell said "There is...
...NOTHING that John McCain can say at this point that will make me WANT to vote for him.

BUT, there are lots of things that Barack Obama WILL say that will make me WANT to vote for John McCain."

I am continually amazed at the Democrat party's ability to shot itself in the foot.

ALL TOO TRUE!!!!!!!!
The article contains the truth you will never see or hear in the main stream media. The good news is the people who vote will do a little searching and as American do, they will decide for themselves and reject Obama. One thing John failed to mention is the Oprah connection, that went sour. Her rating dipped and she ran away from him. Just his name cuts out the South. The baby boomers (old hippies) are now more clear thinking with the experience that a full life brings and turns them into conservatives. White men decide elections, and they are not voting for Obama. McCain is no blue ribbon constitutional defender. He is too old, and has far too many liberal ways, but he will win out over a very inexperienced, extreme liberal, socialist, Muslim, who happens to be black, with a very mean mouthed wife, and poor advisers.

CALIFSON
I read your post and it sounds so "Emphatic".You do understand the word "Emphatic".I am always puzzled when I speak to people who are the mistaken product of "Incest".According the Constitution,"US" all have ONE vote.I take it, that you will not be voting for Mr.Obama.That's a sure sign, that he only attracts those with a working BRAIN.You be good now henmmm.

Agree 100%
if Obama wins it will definitely be a squeaker. McCain should run very strong with independents and working class voters.

MCCAIN STRENGTH IN THE SINGULAR
There is only one strength that is really noteworthy in this debate - McCain is not Obama.

Who in their right mind is going to vote for a guy who makes McGovern, Dukakis, Kennedy (Teddy) or Kerry look "conservative?"

McCain may not expose Obama for what he is, but
the 527s will, and they won't need a "Swift Boat" campaign to do it.


CALIFSON
I read your post and it sounds so "Emphatic".You do understand the word "Emphatic".I am always puzzled when I speak to people who are the mistaken product of "Incest".According the Constitution,"US" all have ONE vote.I take it, that you will not be voting for Mr.Obama.That's a sure sign, that he only attracts those with a working BRAIN.You be good now henmmm.

Some Objections To Your Arguments
You have collected a litany of reasons why Senator Obama (and not Senator Clinton?) is less worthy and/or capable to be U.S. President versus Senator McCain. I have heard these arguments from other pro-Clinton posters and websites, and I'd like to give the SHORT rebuttals to these arguments.

1) Obama's gaffes are tame compared to his competition, and there are many who find his moments of blunt candor more truthful than offensive. In short: Obama is not as bad as Clinton or McCain.

2) There are many who associate with Obama, but the worst of them are far better lot than the crazies, racists, and criminals who have been known (or discovered) with his rivals. In short: same as above.

3) Not qualified? Let me say that I'm not satisfied with McCain's "experience". Obama's run a smart campaign, and the world community seems to react more positively to him - that will go much farther than a president who wants ANOTHER WAR with many people, foreign or domestic.

4) Obama has basically won the nomination - which must count for SOMETHING - and I suspect a lot more will vote for him than what people may expect. This is the 21st century - people are more educated and less racist, and when people get a chance to know him, his polls and vote tallies always improve.

Let me summarize: People keep saying he's all talk - but he's published a 30+ page document outlining all of his policy ideas, and there have been plenty of debates to flesh out details. Quite frankly, I think the true objections are simply less objective, and what has been presented here are thinly guised excuses not to vote for a black Democrat.

If Obama does not win
it will be for a reason that is considered unsuitable for discussion. Simply put, he is black, and there is a percentage of the electorate, including Democrats, that will not vote for any black candidate. This is not to advocate this position, but merely to state the facts.

Early on, Obama seemed to rise above race, but the Reverend Wright issue cast him as a "black" candidate, and later primaries have confirmed that. If the primary season was beginning now, Obama would lose.

What if....
Let's stop saying that it is a Dem year, and say instead that 2006 waqs a Dem year, and the Dems blew it big time. Instead of dealing with gas prices, as promised, Dems redecorated the capital canteen and outlawed the 100 wat bulb. With ratings of 11% approval, it is the worst Congress in history. Republicans must convince voters that they will do better, and that should not be hard to do. The public has expressed a preferance for Republicans for 25 years.

Objections
Dear Dr.: BO has also published two books (with more than 30 pages). Some quotes:

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." -'The Audacity of Hope' (2006)

"I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER’S RACE" ..... "I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites" - 'Dreams of My Father'

I doubt that BO will repudiate his own writings exposing his own ideology. He will remain a typical radical poser.

For the Top 5 Ways Obama...
Can Get Rednecks to Vote for him, go to my blog site (just punch my name above).

I TOTALLY disagree with "Dr. Greg". If the Republicans had anybody but McCain, there wouldn't even be a contest. It would be more like Nixon vs. McGovern.

Obama has no experience, no sense of history (both US and World), and he is more Liberal than Ted Kennedy.

His campaign is a thinly disguised attempt at using "white guilt" to advance his political run for POTUS. His policy ideas (30+ pages) are a poorly written series of failed policies and include an incredible series of tax increases.

If the "Main Stream Media" wasn't behind him 150%, he would have been laughed off the campaign trail 2 months ago.

He will win
He will win because he is a liberal black. Nothing else is relevant.

GreyGhost
Do you all have libraries in your state?I would like for you to review the voting demographics for Mr.Obama.I would suspect, that you will find, that he attracts;young,well- Educated,affluent voters.There is no guilt to be had in this group.The "Old","Ignorant",and "Prejudiced" are not there.I would be remiss,if I failed to mention your absence from the former group.

GreyGhost
Do you all have libraries in your state?I would like for you to review the voting demographics for Mr.Obama.I would suspect, that you will find, that he attracts;young,well- Educated,affluent voters.There is no guilt to be had in this group.The "Old","Ignorant",and "Prejudiced" are not there.I would be remiss,if I failed to mention your absence from the former group.

If you don't vote McCain,
then you may as well p*ss your vote away.

And if you don't vote, I don't want to read your whining and pewling after the Dems. take the WH and Cong on TH.

There is a very clear difference here:

The Dems. are STILL promoting more 19th C. leftist Marxism that already has us $39,000,000,000 in debt to Soc. Sec. Clinton wants the US to be Sweden, but Obama wants the US to look like Cuba and take down the rest of the world with him, because as the US ec. goes, so goes the globe.

McCain will not bring us military humiliation and loss of influence in the Middle East. He has never had an earmark. He has never voted for a tax increase. He is ready to be commander in chief on inauguration day. He does not believe the war on terror and national security should be turned over to trial lawyers. He will not nominate 2 or 3 more Ginsberg clones to the Sup. Ct. The latter alone is worth voting for McCain, because the influence will last for decades.

Put this on the NY postfront page
Even the dems can't argue with the facts...if they knew them.

#3 is the only reason
Hawkins was 200% right with his #3 reason: Obama is not qualified to be President. He has done nothing of note in his short and extremely political political career. I cannot think of one thing that qualifies him. He is, however, an orator extraordinaire and is living proof that many among us are total sheep.

I am sick to death of threatened little weenie Democrats who say -- if people don't vote for Obama, it shows they are scared to vote for a black. Obama could be chartreuce for all I care. What I'm scared to vote for is a totally inexperienced tax-loving abortion-favoring Marxist.

Elitism
The snobbish attitude expressed by "killer" is typical of the elitist Obama campaign and is another reason he will lose. If I oppose Obama because he is an extreme left-wing Socialist, does that mean that I am racist, prejudiced, old, ignorant, uneducated, etc? I don't think so.

There will be more than seven soon
Once we get rolling towards Nov there will be more than 7.

8. Pro Infanticide
9. Troop withdrawal
10. Increased taxes
11. Energy policy (global warming policy)
12. One yet to be known scandal. (just guessing but confident there will be a skeleton)

Lastly: Susan Sarandon vows to move out of the US if McCain gets elected. This will get McCain a few more votes by itself.

killer 10:07am & 10:11am
Perhaps, but I didn't scr*w up and make a double post, did I?

Most of the college kids I have spoken to in Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, and Missouri don't agree with you.

PS: I also have a BSEE and a MSME. What do you have?

GrayGhost
My redundancy was on purpose!Most of the college kids you spoke to, did not speak.Young people still have a level of respect in the "South".Think about it;Winners don't have to talk,it's usually the "Losers" that are crying.Young people are smart enough to realize, that the POWER is in their hands and it's their time.Why would any smart,well-educated,affluent person hurt your feelings with a contrary answer?We still have sympathy for the old...

Killer
You name demographics of elitists and young voters who think that Obama has new ideas. These young voters were not around when many of Obama's ideas were tried and failed. With the inproportionate number of liberals teaching our kids these days, it is highly unlikely they will get a balanced view of history.

You need to stay out of the comic book section of the library.

Using killer's logic
we should ignore and possibly deny the vote to the poor, the unintelligent, and the uneducated. This demographic votes 95+ percent for Obama and has provided his only primary victories. Sounds like a plan to me.

Where's my arugula...? WAAAAAHHHHHHHH.
Have you seen the price of arugula at the whole foods store lately?
I want my arugulaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Missed the top 1 reason
Needs a little historical background. Back in 1700's, France and Britain were competing for territory in North America. France thought the place peripheral and followed a plan of grabbing European territory in wars to trade back for North American, while Britain (protected by the Channel) went for capturing territory abroad--but was confident of doing so. The result was that both sent their most incompetent military commanders to North America.

Currently, GOP (like France) views the election as inevitable loss so appointed McLame; Dhimicruds (like UK) viewing it as cakewalk appointed just-as-incompetent Oblama!

Beta vs VHS
When video tape players first came out there were two competing systems VHS and Betamax. Betamax was superior in every way but marketing. There are two competing operating systems for personal computers the Windows OS and the Mac OS. I have used them both and the Mac OS is better except that most people are used to Windows, which again marketed itself much more cleverly. McCain is certainly preferable to Obama but look at the image on TV. A shiny, smiling, suave, charming New Model versus someone that central casting sent down when the director asked for a character that would embody cranky, peevish, idealess obstinance. He's old. He cant speak. He doesnt have anything to say when he does speak. He is unmarketable. Even a candidate as flawed as Obama has a good chance to beat him unless some genius repackages this superannuated piece of political wreckage and gives people a reason to like the idea of voting for him.

I
intend to vote down ticket, I have some good conservatives I can vote for. However, haven't made up my mind about McC, just when I think I might vote for him, he goes off and does something or says something that ticks me off.
I'm waiting to see who the VP pick is for one thing, and maybe his pandering, squishy lovefest with LaRaza in July will finally decide it for me. Are we to believe that if this speech is what I expect it will be, that
the delegates will still support him in the Convention, with a huge majority of Americans,
from all over the political spectrum against
Amnesty in any form? Maybe it's wishful thinking, maybe the suits have fixed that end
of the nomination also. I just don't know, I
am praying daily about it.

Charles
People who go beyond their ability, do a disservice to themselves.I would suggest, that you read the book "The Peter Principle".To castigate black people as an uneducated group, is not only wrong but most revealing.I would venture to say, that your level of knowledge is no higher than the most Challenged in this group.The superiority, that you have assumed is self imposed and maybe self defeating.Why?Because the statements you have made betray any "Speck" of intellect.Have you seen or been given any data which reflects your assumption on 98%.No!This simple examination, reveals your TRUE character.I would suggest that figure to be 00000000. Cube,I know books are rare in your home,so please go your local library.Upon reading any book of thought,you will that idea are time sensitive.Translation;Some ideas come before their time,that is why the word "GROWTH" has relevance.Sir,you should read a "Comic Book",it may improve your ability to THINK!My dog is smarter than you are...

Stop rationalizing facts away.
John,


At some point republicans will need to stop rationalizing facts and reality away or you will be on a long long minority dry spell.

We democratic voters love our candidate. We were happy with our top 6 contenders. You guys hardly tolerate your candidates.

Then there are the actual issues. The massive republican corruption, the failure of the WOT and the dreaded economy that is set up for massive transfer of wealth from those working hard and clinging to their guns and religion to an elite minority... the concentration and abuse of power....

Anyway reality is not in your favor things only look hopeful because aof your great ability to rationalize and disregard facts and reality.

skep41
Very nice analogy.

Obama distances from Dr. King
Obama said those who say he should be judged by the statement:

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Dr. Martin Luther King
================================================

Obama stated that unless you are black you cannot quote Dr. King

Obama staffers say Obama is deeply offended that voters want to judge Obama by his character and that Dr. Kings statement was taken out of context and should not apply to Obama.

Obama said today I do not accept certain statements by Dr. King that I should be judged by my character instead of the color of my skin.

This is not the Dr. King I marched with and listened to for 23 years and find his comments unacceptable.

SNAFU

.....Bob Barr will not be allowed to participate in the Presidential debates unless he polls 10% or higher ...if he doesn't get in the debates then his chances are nil ...if he does get in the debates ...he will take votes from McCain ...Obama is such a bad candidate that McCain might win anyway .....COLOSSUS

Test
This is a test of my new screen name.

There is no wasted vote
except for the one not cast. People who are going third party are doing so because holding your nose and voting for the lesser evil isn't working. If you do that this election, then what are you going to have to vote for next election?

I have to vote where my judgements and concerns are addressed. Barr is no Perot - there is a major move of the conservative base going to third party. We need to unite and get true conservatives in office.

Retired Geek
Loved your post!!
It was so out of whack, I wondered for a few seconds if Obama had really said it!!could be.

One of his latesst gaffes is he said he would talk to Ahmadinejad, and offer him incentives like membership in the World Trade Organization.
What he didn't know is that one of Ahdimejad's first actions was to freeze Iran's efforts to secure membership in the WTO.
Yup, he is really a knowledgeable leader. One that we could depend on.

Between Barack and a hard place
This is getting fun. The Democrats are on the cusp of nominating a uniquely unelectable candidate. Yet, if Obama is jettisoned, there will be a very uncivil war within the party.

If the super delegates nominate Obama, they will lose the general election, and they know it. The last few primaries show he has alienated working class white voters. He lost in West Virginia by a whopping 41% -- and that's Democrat voters only! There is no way Obama could win without these voters.

If they nominate Mrs. Clinton, they stand a better chance to win the general, but not that much better. Her persistent high negatives (which is pundit-speak for "people don't like her") have never fallen to acceptable levels. Her selection would enrage black voters, who support Obama by more than 90%.

So, the super delegates can nominate either Obama or Mrs. Clinton, and Democrats still lose. Which is another way of saying America wins.

This is getting fun.

Even some of Obama's core constituency
won't vote for him as they know more about him. Let's see how he performs in debates against McCain. I think McCain will wipe the floor with him. McCain recently challenged Obama to go to Iraq, which he hasn't done in 2 years. If Obama goes, the MSM will be forced to cover it and that will provide coverage of the progress that has been made there.

Just for the record, I am a minority, I graduated with my B.S. in Electrical Engineerin from MIT and did graduate work at Purdue, and am now getting a second Master's degree. I'm educated and not white, but I'm voting for McCain. I voted for Ron Paul in the primary. I don't think McCain is a great candidate, but compared to Obama... and it has NOTHING to do with Obama's race.

I would LOVE for us to have a non-white President IF HE OR SHE IS QUALIFIED. For example, I am very excited about the possibility of Bobby Jindal running someday, AFTER proving himself as governor of Louisiana. But I would NEVER vote for a candidate because of his or her skin color. The candidate MUST be qualified. The Presidency is not a beauty pageant.

I would rather vote for an ugly, old white guy who has experience and who shares at least some of my conservative values than a handsome, articulate and cool black guy who has little experience and is extremely liberal.


Trinity's Racism is not Christian
BTW, one thing no one seems to investigate - part of Obama's resume includes being a community activist in Chicago. What does that mean, exactly? It seems to include organizing protests and intimidating legislators. Again, not what I want in a President. I also find the tenor of the church Obama went to for 20 years to be quite racist. Black racism is just as ugly as white racism.

As someone who has had to deal with racism on occasion in my own life, I, as a Christian, would never condone ANY sort of racism. I believe in the Golden Rule. How can Trinity call itself a Christian church if it encourages racism against whites? Jesus never said "Slap people who hit you", He said "Turn the other cheek". Are these people reading the same Bible I've got?

Hawkins, great article....also.....
1. Obama Is a Liar. His recent speech during memorial day weekend did not have any TRUE STATEMENT in it. His campaign tried to change the name and place of service for the so called 'uncle' but military records do not add up with their new revised story. Obama has lied for so long to ignorant community members, he can't remember what is true about his personal or professional life anymore.

2. Obama's agenda to disarm america. While it is one thing to lack experience but want to succeed, Obama's agenda to disarm america makes him a dangerous president. He not only wants to disarm america but he has been endorsed by hamas, chavez, castro, and the Iranian president AhmediXXX.

3. Obama's religion. The Black Liberation Theology is the new age version of the Black Panthers. It teaches to put Africa and Blacks first without prequalification in order to replace the eurocentric perspective with an afrocentric one. A president's religion is important when it comes to making foreign policy that defends america against all enemies foreign and domestic. His religion makes his allegience to the oath of office questionable.

Obama is untrustworthy - period!


wing-nuts are running scared
why is it soooo many wing-nuts are shouting that Obama is weaker than clinton. You would think they would be happy Obama is winning .. right. Methinks they protest too much and you can sense a nervousness in their voice.
I think they are all scared that Obama will win and they are doing everything to derail him.

Killer
You are the one assuming that I am referring to black people. I was actually referring to liberal weenies like you who like to brag about their intellect, education, and affluence (like Obama). People who actually possess these attributes rarely brag about them.

btw, I don't understand why blacks
vote Dem so heavily.

If you look at Dem policies, they hurt blacks.

1) Abortion - a higher percentage of black babies get killed.
2) Gay marriage - blacks overwhelmingly support the traditional family.
3) Social Security - black men die young, so many of them contribute to Social Security and get very little back. Republican private accounts would at least allow them to leave something to their families.
4) Educational choices - many blacks live in districts with failing schools. They would do better with school choice.
5) Immigration - illegals compete directly with low-skilled workers, many of them minorities, for jobs.
6) Business friendly policies - starting small businesses is one way blacks can get ahead through hard work despite discrimination
7) Welfare - the welfare state has led to the disintegration of the black family, as even Democrats like Moynihan recognized years ago.
8) Religious freedom - Many blacks are religious and also value these freedoms
9) Economic policies - look what's happened to blacks under Democratic city governments, like Detroit or Birmingham.

I could go on and on, but except for affirmative action, which helps blacks in the short term while eroding respect for blacks in the long term, the Dems don't really provide much in the way for blacks.

From the beginning
From the beginning, Senator Obama has surrounded himself with people who are anti-American and racists. If a white person had spent five seconds with this kind of association, he or she would never have been seriously considered for any political position.

But the mainstream media has given the Senator a pass. They have even thrown their former darling, Senator Clinton, under the bus.

William Ayers who helped launch Senator Obama's political career in Illinois was a member of the Weathermen. The Weathermen used to go around blowing up government buildings, and William Ayers is still not sorry. To help launch Mr. Obama's political career many years ago, William Ayers hosted a fund raiser in his home for the future Sentor Obama.

Rev. Wright preaches sermons full of hatred for whites and this country. His sermons have been recorded and can viewed if people are interested. He was Senator Obama's pastor for twenty years. Senator Obama used his pastor's words for the title of one of his books. He was the Senator's mentor and close friend.

Father Pleger preached a venom lace sermon at Sentor Obama's church this last Sunday. He has already apologized for his remarks. But those remarks are consistent with what Father Pleger has said before. He has been Senator Obama's friend and advisor for twenty years.

Senator Obama has surrounded himself with people who are racists and hate this country. Anyone who thinks that his views are different from his long-term friends is living in a fantasy world of their own construction.

The people who suport Senator Obama see only what they want to see and ignore the rest. What about the rest of us?

how hillary clinton can still win
If you think hillary is going to give up a lifetime ambition to be the president,think again.Hillary will be on the ticket as an independent.In a three way race between obama,mccain and hillary she would only need 35 percent of the total vote to win.this would give obama all the black vote and spliting the rest of the voters between hillary and mccain.

Smell
Don't become a victim of your own ignorance.I must inform you,that most national polls show both Mrs.Clinton and Mr.Obama leading Mr.McCain.How do you sleep at night,with your brain rolling around."Dumb As" a doorknob,is thee!!!

bottom line for repubs/cons
to put it quite simply:

"If you dont like sen. obama as a prez candidate, the dont vote for him."

but therein lies the problem for repubs/cons.
convincing OTHERS to think as negatively as THEY think about him and at this point it just
isnt working.

republicans have nothing to offer but negativism, because at this point they are on the wrong side of practically every major issue facing the nation. they got a highly unpopular
incumbent repub prez bush who has practically destroyed the republican brand. he is a albatross around every repub running for re-election..repub prez nominee mccain keeps him
at arms length. you got a equally unpopular
Iraq War which the vast majority of americans
want ended asap. you got a bad ecomony, high gas and food prices. the vast majority of americans believe the country is on the WRONG TRACK.

So what do repubs/cons have left?

GO NEGATIVE WITH CHARACTER ASSASINATION OF OBAMA...

karl rove, roger ailes and lee atwater would be proud...

muirgeo, how is Obama qualified to solve
that list of problems? Democrats have a message that resonates with voters but lack a candidate who has the experience to implement the changes being proposed. Obama is COMPLETELY UNQUALIFIED. How will democrats explain picking an unqualifed, inexperienced person to solve such BIG PROBLEMS? This is the illogical thinking that has brought democrats to the worst candidate ever i.e. the country is going to hell so we need trhe most inexperienced guy to fix it. The war in Iraq is going badly so we need the guy without any military exprience and won't meet with the generals to solve the military problem in Iraq and become commander in chief. Do you think americans are stupid?

Left Angle, who said this?
Obama is like any other politician, he says what he needs to in order to get elected.

The very right Reverend Wright - Obama's Pastor, Friend and Mentor for 20 years.

What character assasination? Obama is a fraud and his pastors said so. LOL x3!!!!!

Barr
"The only real question is will enough of the conseravtives go to the polls to give it to Barr?"

Not sure if so-called conservatives would like Barr all that much. He opposes the Iraq war, opposes Federal laws against drugs where such should be returned to the States, against the Imperial Federal Government's attack on privacy such as through the Patriot Act, and from his statements he seems to also be pro-Choice and on and on. Not sure Barr is the candidate for most here on TH.

Perhaps they think he is still the Bob Barr of old--he is not the Bob Barr of 1998 when he was one of the house leaders prosecuting Bill Clinton.

Absolute nonsense as usual
1) Obama is no more gaff-prone than McCain. In fact, McCain is arguably more gaff-prone, and in areas is which he claims strength. Now, what are these people, Sunnis or Shi'ites? Don't ask John, because he hasn't got a clue. And, er, leave the economy out too because that's not his strong suit either. Who cares about the economy anyway!!!
2) Obama's entourage is no more controversial than McCain's. If this campaign isn't a lesson for all aspiring politicians to leave the lunatic religious fringe out of it, then they'll never learn. Besides, McCain has what, 60 lobbyists in his team? People who were lobbying for the banking industry at the same time as advising McCain on the economy? There is only one Maverick - and that's Jim Garner.
3) Obama is perfectly well qualified to be president. McCain has a long record of Washington nonsense - he is well known for voting against legislation that has his own name attached to it. MCain also has a very short fuse - frankly, I wouldn't want a war-scarred septugunarian in a temper tantrum with his finger on the button. And some of yo want Jindal as VP? And you cite Obama's experience???!
4) Doubtless Obama has work to do in some areas of the electorate. But McCain doesn't? Come off it - Obmama beats McCain hands down in all current polls, even more comfortably than Hillary. Most Hillary supporters, by general election time, will vote for Obama ahead of McCain, who has a tough enough task getting Republicans to support him. Isn't Hawkins the man who has already vowed not to vote for McCain???!
5) Obama remains the closest thing to post-racial this country has seen, despite the right's relentless attempts to push race into the debate. Obama's speech on race remains the defining point of his candidacy.

Absolute nonsense as usual II
6) The myth that Obmama is the "most liberal" senator is exactly that - a myth. Most reliable sources indicate that there are plenty in the senate with more liberal voting records. But he is a liberal - and so what? Most Americans are. Those other candidates Hawkins mentions lost for a large number of reasons - being "too liberal" isn't one of them. Hawkins's isn't brainless but he assumes people who read this are.
7)As I've written before, most Hillary supporters would rather see Obama in the White house than McCain. A handful of racists in Appalachia won't make any difference come November. Policy-wise, Obama and Hillary are very close, whereas McCain is out there with the fairies, and by November tht will be clear. So I think Hawkins is clutching at straws.

In conclusion - Hawkins's list is cobblers. Each point is easily refutable, and if he thinks that this nonsense is going to win it for McCain (who, after all, doesn't even have Hawkins's vote) then he is in for a rude awakening come November.

SFA7392-Vic
TownHall probably had Hawkins stop after 7 Reasons for fear he would crash their servers if he wrote a COMPLETE list.

Isn’t it SCARY how the closer we get to election Day, The Obamabots get more STUPID!

Jo
No Independent candidate has ever won the Presidency.Also, Mrs Clinton does not have the organization to wage a winning third party candidacy.Mr.Barr has a far better chance.But you keep on wishing and don't forget to "HOPE".They tell me,that the "Fairy Godmother" is still in business.

Critique
First of all I've always thought that in a cast of lame columnists Hawkins is the lamerst. But, oh well.

1> TRUE

JO - that is brilliant!
Hillary would win as an independent. Of the three candidates she has the most appeal for a strong consistent base of voters. I had never thought of that before. I always thought she is weakening Obama so that she can come back in 2012. You know what? She could pull a Liberman and become an independent candidate because her party has disrespected her emmensely. I do not like Hillary but i dislike the bullying of Hillary even more. After voters started picking her over Hussein, the democrat leaders lead by Pelosi started pressuring superdelegates to go with the popular vote and pick Barack - and everybody knows Hussein's lead is based solely on black voters and one county in IL. I am shocked at the way Hillary has been treated considering how her husband stuck with the party and lead them to victory twice. It is shameless to fix the nomination for Obama because the democrats should have been allowed to pick their nominee even if they picked Hillary. Instead they have treated her very very badly. I hope she decides to run as an independent. She certainly has a following of voters who will not give up on her - and she can pick a 4 star general for VP (any suggestions?).

shefali
i just wanted to say that your views parallel my own!

i abhor racism in any form and apparently obama's church doesn't use the same bible that i was raised on!

i could care less what color a person is who runs our country. we don't need someone so far left that our country will be destroyed by his/her socialist decisions.

and since war is an inevitable part of our existence, then i want someone who has somewhat of a strong military background to make decisions in that catagory.

i pray for the day that race in our country is no longer a factor. that, however, may be unlikely if we look toward the direction of other countries, who for centuries, have been fighting over one anothers' differences.

in a perfect world, however....and i doubt there will ever be one. but we DON'T need a wolf in racist clothing as the leader of our country.

Things are not so bad
The war in Iraq was a necessary element of the need to eradicate radical Islam wherever it exists. This is a matter of pure self-preservation. President Bush made some tactical errors in the war, but the situation is much better now since Bush listened to and adopted the experienced counsel of John McCain.

The "bad economy" is largely a media creation. Unemployment is historically low, and only the over-inflated housing industry has been seriously impacted. The speculators and the "no money down" folks are getting what they deserve.

Oil prices are a serious problem, but much of the blame can be laid on the Democrats who have consistently opposed new drilling programs and the construction of new refineries. Obama's only plan is a windfall profits tax, which may punish the oil companies, but will also punish consumers in the form of even higher prices.

The fact that Obama is totally unqualified personally is just a bonus on top of the wrong direction of Democrat policies.

CriticalBill, even Hawkins
who isn't supporting McCain - gets that McCain will win in November. Why? Obama is THAT unqualified to be POTUS. I noticed you did not give the list of accomplishments that qualify Hussein to be commander in chief - just the usual rheteric. McCain has weaknesses - nobody is arguing that - but there is one irrefutable fact. When it comes to picking a commander in chief - McCain is more qualified that Hussein. The constitution does require americans to pick a commander in chief NOT an 'agent of change'. Capish?

Medical records
B. Hussein has released his medical records but I did not see the results of any drug testing. Sincew he is an admitted drug user he should be given a mandatory drug test.

Critique
First of all I've always thought that in a cast of lame columnists Hawkins is the lamerst. But, oh well.

1> TRUE. What Obama says about the working class in that area of the country is true.
2> TRUE. What Obama says about flag pins is true.
3> Big deal about 57 states. That's called grasping at straws, John.
4> We have a cabinet to handle the details. We need Obama for his vision.
5> By Hawkins logic the best president would be the one with the longest experience in congress.
6> Who said the 3am call was about a "major terrorist attack." It could be about the plumbing. Plus where is the attack that Hawkins has dreamed up and what is it's nature. As long as you're fantasizing Hawkins you might as well make it a good fantasy.
7> Not a racial country? Try reading Skip's posts from yesterday on the thread about Obama not seeking out Petraeus. And why does Skip feel so comfortable posting his racial posts?
8> No, John, we don't want to put race in the rear view mirror, at least the way it is now. That's ducking and weaving and sliding. We need to update our view of race in America and Obama's the guy to do it.
9> Obama's a liberal. That's good.
10> The GOP's been beating liberals. Yes, But they've had to lie to do it.
11> Why Hillary's supporters won't defect. Knowing what we now know about how Bush's presidency would turn out, many who voted for Bush or Ralph Nader now understand how important each vote is. Hillary's supporters will know that it will be on their heads if they vote for McCain and his presidency is a disaster, i.e., he bombs Iran within the first hundred days as I predict he would.

More blahs?
Blah, blah, blah.

Proud Liberal
Bombing Iran sounds like a good idea, particularly if the survival of Israel is of any concern.

Two-faced about experience
Conservatives are being two-faced about the experience to be president.

Conservatives consistently disparage all politicians - liberal politicians more than conservative politicians, to be sure - but in general conservatives have nothing good to say about politicians.

But now, in a two-faced manner, they are claiming that Obama doesn't have enough experience AS A POLITICIAN to be president.

So, which is it conservatives?

OBAMA/GRAY GHOST
Gray Ghost go to my blog #25 and read what I wrote!! I cant agree with you more !! and I have said that we are in for a rude awaking when he win this thing and end up losing the big prize. THIS IS THE PIPE PIPER THING AND NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION !!

Any one saw the movie "Best little whorehouse in Texas???" there was a Governor running for office and the "press" could not make out a word he was saying and they ask each other what is he saying?? ONE writer said " he is saying a lot but he is saying NOTHING!! Every time Obama open his mouth he makes a mistake he NEVER TALK TO THE PRESS ONE ONE" HE WRITE SPEECHES AND THEN READ IT" and we all clap , well wait until he and McCain square off!! OH, I forgot the race thing McCain will not be able to saying thing without "race " rearing it"s ugly head like what they do to the Clinton's!! ,

Obama gets elected if
1. Americans believe no experience is necessary to be POTUS.
2. Attending a race-obsessed church for 20 years is no big deal.
3. Having a first lady who refers to america as 'down right mean' is no big deal.
4. Stopping to count votes in FL and MI and calling it 'playing by the rules' is no big deal.
5. Calling small town middle class americans 'bitter and frustrated' is the new politics.
6. Disarming america while giving credibility of Iran, Cuba and every thug nation is 'change we can believe in'.
7. Referring to 'typical white people' is a term of endearment.
8. Being born to a muslim father and living in a muslim nation while being educated by muslims 'makes one a great christian president who will defend americans from radical islam'.
9. Re-distributing wealth by taxing the rich to provide for the poor is 'how to strengthen our economy'.
10. Success in the Iraq war and against other military regimes will be accomplished by 'talking without preconditions' to our enemies and 'giving them carrots' funded by tax payers.
11. Making up military experience stories and relatives to pad Obama's foreign policy experience is an acceptable form of campaigning and 'change we can believe in'.
12. Even if the federal government has ruined social security, education and medicare - we can trust that under obama's leadership they will not only improve these programs but give us healthcare we can all 'believe in'.
13. Community organizing is a career that prepares one for president and his colligues in inner city are acceptable influences for how american domestic agenda is set.
14. A president who quotes Jay Z the rap artist who insults women is a good role model for 'change we can believe in'.
15. Personal friends and associates do not reflect the judgement of a president, his thin resume, and speech writers should be how we judge him.
Did I leave anything else out?

Charles
I think we'd have to then, after the bombing, occupy Iran for the next 1000 years.

Iran certainly wouldn't take the bombing laying down. Nor could we expect that they'd do the manly thing and man up in an eyeball to eyeball fight.

Iran will retaliate and they will probably retailiate in a devious way. They could retaliate against Israel. They could retaliate through Hezbolah or the Palestinians. They could choose to wait 10 years until the U.S. thinks Iran has forgiven and forgotten.

So, my friend, your thoughts on what comes AFTER THE BOMBING.

Barack Obama
Here's another reason why Barack should NEVER be allowed in the Oval Office; and in fact, should be kicked out of office altogether.

http://www.macsmind.com/wordpress/2008/02/27/obama-plans-to -disarm-america

I suggest that you view this quickly as it is being threatened with removal from the web!!!!!

Reparations
Has Obama made any conclusive statement about his position on reparations for slavery? Behind the racist and sexist rantings of the mad priest at Obama's church, the basis thesis of the sermon was about reparations, and the mob was wildly in favor.

Proud Liberal , Obama's qualifications?
Please list what qualifies him to be president. His inner city community organizing days are filled with drama filled church rantings that make saturday night live look like a serious policy meeting. Exactly what is in Obama's resume that gives americans confidence he will give us 'change we can believe in'? List please. tick tock tick tock.......americans have this negro's number and they aren't voting for him and his racist inner city thugs who preach, and teach racial divide in the name of 'social justice' or is it 'community organizing'. Please list Obama's qualifications or stop wasting our time.

I'm quite enjoying
The lefties and assorted liberals on this board as they whistle past the graveyard with their "Obama is going to WIN BIG" tune! You guys and gals on the liberal, deplorable left need to wake up and smell the java!!! LOL! Candidates don't have ANY HUGE losses on their resume and Hillary has dealth BO several. It's no wonder she's still in this. Hey, liberals, listen, I know you have the minds of children, but you have to understand that people vote for ADULTS, serious ADULTS to be president. Obama is just some goofy telegenic kid with pie-in-the-sky ideas of how to run the "rilly rilly" big lemonade stand! McCain may not get a landslide, but it will be much bigger than Bush's win over Kerry.

Sarah
I understood everything except capish. The word is capice.
You keep on writing (I've seen it on other threads) that Obama is unqualified. However, I am unaware of any formal qualification requirements - can you tel me what they are? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dwight Eisenhower win the White House twice without ever having held ANY elected office prior to that job? There are many paths to the White House (failed oilman and failed ballman spring to mind), but there is no formal experience required. Your argument is totally nonsensical. Obama is a Senator, a proven leader, has the ability to inspire and can win enough votes - ergo, he is qualified.

Proud Liberal
I assume that we would bomb them in such a devastating manner that they would have no ability to retaliate and that there would be nothing left to occupy. The time for politically correct wars is over.

Israel can take care of Hezbolah and the palestinians if we just turn them loose.

Would you (and Obama) advocate retaliation if Iran used a nuclear weapon on Israel, or would you talk about it at the UN and maybe pass sanctions?

Broken Eagle
"I AM SO DONE WITH THIS POLITIC BECAUSE IT IS ONE-SIDED!!! MY TELLY WILL GO TO GAME SHOWS THANK YOU VERY MUCH!! GOD WANT US TO PREACH LOVE FORGIVENESS NOT HATE!!!!! "

The absolute WRONG thing to do. If you "check out", then you have no one to blame for the consequences you will suffer - right along with the rest of us. Get off your disillusioned butt and FIGHT! Your vote is a punch! USE IT!

Obama's Suicide Mission - disarm USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl32Y7wDVDs

Americans have heard it from the horse's mouth....this is the guy who wants to be 'commander in chief'? Commander in chief of armed forces armed with what? As Zell Miller would ask - spit balls?

OBAMA IS THE PRESIDENT JIHADISTS HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR......this is not fear mongering, it is a fact!

Killer & Dr. Greg
Geez you guys ... Killer, are you so insecure that you have to post twice to get a point across? Tsk, tsk.

Dr. Greg, my above posted link about Barack is especially important for you to watch. Please go do that!

Thank you!

CriticalBill , this is 2008
and the republic is under attack from jihadists. Americans need a qualified commander in chief to defend our nation. Capice, capish or should I say that in another way - The negro is unqualified and POTUS is not a paid internship for inner city thugs. Come November, Wright can expect his mentee back in the inner city gutter where he belongs tick tock tick tock!

Obama's gaffs
For those of you out there who are minimizing the "gaff" issue, let's get some clarification. For the most part, they are not that important. The point that is being missed is the issue the MSM chooses to make out of them. When it was Dan Quayle, it was a hugh issue with the misspelling of potato and emphasized endlessly. But a liberal making a gaff? It gets reported and dropped like a hot potato(e),so to speak. The liberals love to ridicule those less endowed with intelligence (be it real or a contrivance) in the off-season. But come election time they are so caring and comforting to the afflicted because they think that assuming that posture will garner votes for the democrats. As Thomas Sowell would say, they use race as their mascot and I think they do the same thing with the poor and underprivileged. But, hey, it works to win elections, so why not?

asurferiamnot
"Lastly: Susan Sarandon vows to move out of the US if McCain gets elected. This will get McCain a few more votes by itself."

Good thing I had just put my coffee down asurfer ... do you remember Alec Baldwin said the same thing if Bush was elected. He's still here however, as crude, rude and abusive as always. He would never leave the country that has paid him so well for the crap he calls "acting". Apply same statement to Susan Saranwrap and there, you have it!

(Still snickering)

Sarah
You aren't real, are you? You're a liberal troll on here, writing the most outrageous nonsense you can just to make Townhall look stupid, aren't you? Well, I must congratulate you because you are doing a fine job. Keep up the good work!

shefali
"I would rather vote for an ugly, old white guy who has experience and who shares at least some of my conservative values than a handsome, articulate and cool black guy who has little experience and is extremely liberal."

Well said shefali! A smart, educated, degree-holding insignificant person according to "killer". I guess "killer" ain't so smart. I notice he can't type very well either!

Anyway, shefali, my only dispute with your statement is that I don't think McCain is "uggy". Remember, he had skin cancer which was treated and left him with that "bump" on one side of his face. I've seen pictures of him as a young pilot; he was quite handsome. In any event, he's still smarter and more savvy than Obamanation!

Thanks for your post. It was excellent!

Sarah
Sarah is reflecting my previous comment. See reply #34.

Most Americans
"But he is a liberal - and so what? Most Americans are."

Actually most Americans are center-right and polls show this. Since 1968, the DP has won only three times and each time the party nominated what was seen as moderate Southerner--when they took a liberal from the midwest or northeast, they lost--usually in a landslide--1972, 1984, 1988.

Americans support lower taxes, lower government regulations. Obama has a different view.




Critical Bill
"5) Obama remains the closest thing to post-racial this country has seen, despite the right's relentless attempts to push race into the debate. Obama's speech on race remains the defining point of his candidacy."
Is that why he is a member of a black separatist church?

sarah: its obvious..
you dont like sen. obama, so like i said:

dont vote for him, it's that easy.


btw:

what are the qualifications to be potus and where can i find them to print out?

rockisback ...
from where? Outer space? Oh, I see you're from Oregon ... Little California wannabe. Well, while you as usual are your usual "tolerant" self slamming the "wing-nuts", how 'bout your Lug-nuts who think Obama walks on water. DON'T YOU READ, HEAR OR ABSORB ANY OF THE RECENT DEBACLES OBAMANATION HAS SAID, BEEN INVOLVED IN, OR RATIFIED?

Good grief, scrape the moss and mold off what's left of your brain and PAY ATTENTION to to what this guy REALLY STANDS FOR.

Again, I refer you to the link I posted above. Unless you're totally brain dead and don't give a whit about your head or your butt, then by all means, ignore what this marxist maniac is all about! You can kiss your country goodbye if he gets his way. And you can bequeath to your children and grandchildren a horror that you won't be here to deal with. I'm sure they'll thank you for that!

Obama's Qualifications
First of all, I would apply this same reasoning to McCain and "Shrub."

You look at a person's whole life. A whole life includes lots of experiences in many areas, lots of books read, lots of conversations, lots of thinking, some successes, many failures - if you're not failing your asleep - and character, and influences, etc.

But, you also ask what it takes to be president and can the success or failure of a president be predicted.

In judging presidents you have to consider the era they lived in and the issues of the day. A president good for one set of circumstances might not be good for another.

Obama? I happen to like the way he thinks. I think he has a better understanding of things than most people. His major qualification is that understanding and his vision of where he would like to take the United States. That's the only qualification he needs.

Sarah!

Left Angle, minimum qualifications POTUS
At a minimum a commander in chief should not plan to disarm his military. Obama's suicide mission to disarm our military should frighten even the liberals like you who support him. If the man is a pacifist he should seek a position in the UN not try to be a commander in chief!
see the video on utube where Obama is discussing his plan to disarm our military. At a minimum, he should be planning to strengthen our military not weaken it. Also, if he claims to be a uniter bringing 'change' we can believe in - he should pick a religion that discusses racial harmony instead of 'whitey' hatred - the man is a JOKE!

Flyfisher
I'm white and his church doesn't bother me one iota. I know that many black churches can sound radical to our ears, but I also realise that even if Jeremiah Wright has some controversial views, he is unlikely to have expressed them week in week out and I believe that Obama does not share those views. As someone who is neither black nor white, Obama can, I believe, see beyond the petty irrelevence of race. Altough to be honest I would prefer it if he didn't go to church full stop, but that's a little too much to ask even in these enlightened times.

OR: please explain
what you mean by this in detail could you please? just curious.

"You can kiss your country goodbye if he(obama) gets his way."

typical day with the trolls
the joys of reading the postings at TH. The leftists appear to post their usual drivel. They attack the messenger without countering his arguments and they defend the indefensible by insisting there is something of substance to their snake oil salesman, their new messiah b. hussein.

But the leftists will have difficulty overcoming the words as spoken by b hussein, the hateful wife, the rev wrong from the church of never ending hatred and now the self hating white priest and b hussein mentor, phlegler.

At what point will the trolls finally realize there is nothing of substance to b hussein and his running as both the typical status quo dem and as a black victim is the whole basis of his campaign.

from the common vernacular of the ghetto it seems that b hussein has settled in new identity of NWA. Alas image over substance won't win the election.

But then what else does the left now hold dear except total surrender, more govt and more govt programs and higher taxes to subsidize the socialist nirvana they want implimented on america. Group think has come to replace individual thought.

But alas by the time the left wakes up, if they ever do, it will be too late they may find they got exactly what they wished for unless of course the right unites to keep this disaster, b hussein from destroying this country

Proud Liberal , what does Obama think?
His relationship with his 'sounding board' Wright changed from 'uncle who can't be disowned' to 'a man i do not know' in 3 weeks.
His thoughts about meeting with Iranian president have changed at least 5 times in 2 weeks. His thoughts about the lapelle pin and what it represents has changed about 3 times in 1 week. His thoughts about guns and whether should own them or not has changed at least 5 times in 2 months. His story about his made up uncle who served in a yet to be confirmed location has changed and been revised by his staff at least 3 times in one day. EXACTLY WHAT DOES THIS FRAUD BELIEVE? He is confused about his heritage, his religion and his policies. For every position he has taken, you will find him explaining and back peddling - except of course disarming america for the sake of evening the playing field for jihadist.

sarah once again...
it appears you didnt understand my question so let me clarify:

can you please tell me what the official qualifications are to be potus and where can i find and print them out?

Critical Bill
I feel that Obama should have recognized how "white America" would view such a church. I want a President that represents ALL Americans; not just BLACK Americans. To me, it just shows a lack of judgment.

talking point a question
you stated:

"But alas by the time the left wakes up, if they ever do, it will be too late they may find they got exactly what they wished for unless of course the right unites to keep this disaster, b hussein from destroying this country."

can you please give a detailed explanation as to how sen obama if elected is going to "destroy this country"?

CriticalBill , Negro like Hussein is a
real word. Negro is a word used to define black people. Obama describes himself as a black man also known as negro. Is there a problem with using english words as well, I thought Hussein was the only forbidden word when it comes to discussing Obama. Like Obama said "I am a black man" so he is a negro.

Left Angle
Sarah cannot do anything other than screech about qualifications and this garbage about diasrming the military. I've asked her the same question, and explained why Obama is qualified, but she won't reply because she can't. I would ignore her - her true affiliations (beginning with the letter K) are clear to see in this thread.

Left Angle, the constitution requires
a president to be a commander in chief. A commander in chief is expected to lead the military into battle and to strengthen the military so that it is prepared to defend this country when it is attacked. Are you public school educated or just slow in general?

critical bill ...
"Subject: Sarah
I understood everything except capish. The word is capice.
You keep on writing (I've seen it on other threads) that Obama is unqualified. However, I am unaware of any formal qualification requirements - can you tel me what they are? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Dwight Eisenhower win the White House twice without ever having held ANY elected office prior to that job? There are many paths to the White House (failed oilman and failed ballman spring to mind), but there is no formal experience required. Your argument is totally nonsensical. Obama is a Senator, a proven leader, has the ability to inspire and can win enough votes - ergo, he is qualified."

Ah, cb, and where are your credentials to critique the criticism? May I suggest that you follow the above suggestion and LIST the qualifications of Obamanation! Let's see now, he votes "present" (so he doesn't have to state his true position on anything); he hasn't seen a contributor he doesn't like; he is sponsoring a humongous Bill in Congress (RIGHT NOW) that will place another some 835 BILLION dollar tax burden on the American taxpayer to contribute to stamping out "WORLD HUNGER" ... like that's ever going to happen. As the world grows, so will the hunger, especially when the offending countries won't take care of their own! SO, WE MUST DO IT? I don't think so. This guy will give America away; turn her into another 3rd world country and bring the statue of liberty to her knees in shame.

Eisenhower had the balls to protect the nation - which is the ultimate duty of the CIC! I'd say that alone qualified him. Don't foul his grand name and courage with such tripe.

You need to apply for a brain!

CriticalBill, didn't know
the KKK include non-caucasians in their church. I am not white for your information. I do have some issues with a man who is unqualifed becoming president and like you are about to find out in 5 months so do thinking americans. Barak Hussein Mohamoud Obama is an unqualified negro who thinks he is entitled to the presidency because this is 'his time'. I think he is using the wrong clock to tell time. But then again, he comes from a church that believes AIDS was created by the whiteman to kill blacks - LOL!! Did you hear what Obama's pastor for 20 years said about him 'Barak is a politician who will say anything to get elected' - at least one time I agree with Wright.

left angle
in order to put anything in terms you understand requires a coloring book and crayons. since the left lacks the values that built america who on your side of the discussion will step forward to defend america.

That your messiah sees no danger from terroists why should any take comfort that b hussein will work at keeping america strong.


Charles/Sarah
Charles: We're talking about real morality here and real people. If you think it is moral to bomb the population of Iran to smithereens I think we should start rounding up people like you and putting them in cages where they belong with the other animals.

We'll have smaller cages for those who think nuclear war is containable. Conservatives self-referentially think they are realists. You are, in fact, naive to a fault.

Sarah: If you'd like I can make up a list of countries in which you might be more comfortable when Obama gets elected. What do you think of Uganda for starters?

critical bill: isnt it odd
that right wingers such as sarah, OR and talking point keep saying things like:

"Obama isnt qualified to be potus."

and yet when you ask them for the "official"
qualifications for potus, they cant give an
straight answer.

also they things like:

"If Obama is elected potus, it will a disaster and the end of the usa as we know it."

then you ask them to give you a detailed explanation as to how this "disaster and the end of the u.s." will unfold under obama as potus" and they cant explain what they are predicting...it's very odd

Polls
Polls show that 13% of voters believe that Obama is a Muslim. Think any of those folks will vote for him?

CriticalBill, here are definitions ....
The federal govt. uses the following racial categories ....

Black/Negro/of African decent
Hispanicr/Not white
Caucasian
Asian
American Indian

etc......

How racist is the government? As a caucasian, your guilt is showing up when I use the word Negro and it unhinges you. Negro is a perfectly good adjective used in most government documents as a synonym for black. Not to be confused with 'nXXXXr' the insult.

Is this clear? or are you also public school educated?

Proud Liberal
If the people of Iran support a radical Muslim government devoted to exterminating Israel (and all Jews for that matter), then they deserve whatever they get.

I know liberals (Socialists/Communists)like to round up people with different beliefs and put them in cages. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez, etc have all proved this. That's why we can't risk Obama.

Charles , and the other 87% won't
admit it in public. When it comes to Obama everyone is expected to walk on egg shells. here are the rules...
1. Do not use his middle name
2. Do not mention he was born of a muslim african father and raised by a muslim step dad.
3. Do not mention he was registered twice by his atheist mother as a muslim in two schools in indonesia
4. Do not say anything about Michelle's anti-amreican research paper and comments on the campaign trail - even if she would be a first lady with a tax payer fully funded staff expected to represent this country in a positive light abroad (minor distraction).
5. Do not mention obama makes up military service stories without ANY FACTS like on his memorial day speech.
6. Do not mention all Obama's 'community orginizer' associates who are anti-american at best and racists at worst.
7. Do not mention Obama's plan to disarm america because as commander in chief this would be 'change we can believe in'.
8. Do not mention Obama's racist religion because that is just being racist.
9. And just in....calling Obama a negro is an insult that rises up to high crimes of racism.

AND THE MAN IS NOT YET THE OFFICIAL NOMINEE - CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT WE CAN'T SAY ABOUT HIM WHEN HE BECOMES THE OFFICIAL NOMINEE?

Left Angle, Critical Bill
If Obama is elected, I don't think it would be a huge disaster for America. But I do feel some of his ideas would be harmful. For some reason, I have a hard time believing him.

Policy is secondary to honesty for me.

Looking good, Republicans!
I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat living in the capital of the blue states, Massachusetts, and I'm becoming convinced that McCain will be our next president. Obama is a significantly weaker candidate than Clinton among segments of the voting public that Obama doesn't reach--especially white, blue-collar voters. Obama has managed to take what started out as a victory lap even before the primaries and turn it into a bungling, inept campaign that is as bad, if not worse, than what John Kerry ran. I think many people who would have voted for Clinton will not vote for Obama, and some fraction of them will clearly go for McCain.

All that Republicans need to do is keep cycling back over Rev. Wright, Michelle Obama, and Obama's own gaffes mentioned in this column. I think McCain has a very good chance at winning.

Then comes the next problem. Do even you Republicans want what would amount to a 3rd term for George Bush? If you loved Bush, you'll love McCain.

Left Angle. official qualification is in
the constitution i.e. A president is also commander in chief. Obama is unqualifed to be commander in chief because he wants to disarm our military and weaken our nuclear capability making it impossible for us to defend ourselves when our enemies attack. Is this difficult for you to understand?
The constitution lays out the official responsibilites for a president and one of them is to be commander in chief.....and Obama is not qualifed to be that based on his plan to disarm our military.
Sorry, my 5 year old understands this so I can't make it any simpler for you.

It is God who will judge you Charles
You don't have to worry about what I say. Your morality is actually Machivellian rather than Christian though (see Robert Kaplan) But judging from the expression of your thoughts and attitudes on this thread I don't hold out much hope for you when blinded by the throne of gold.

Response to Gestell
Republicans do not want a third Bush term. They want a return to traditional Republican values of low taxes, reduced spending, and small government. They are not sure that McCain will offer this in total, but are absolutely certain that Obama will stand for high taxes, excessive spending (on the wrong things), and big government.

All this aside, Republicans place national security above all else, and in this area Obama is criminally negligent.

Proud Liberal
So you think it is moral to stand by while Iran exterminates Israel?

Subject JO#81
Hi Sara Subject JO You've got it You've got it I think that is what she should do and show them!! They have thrown her from and under the train , they have call her the "B" word and every thing that she says is laugh at , pick apart and discounted, that is when they are not calling HER, AND HER HUSBAND A RACIST.

Pelosi and all the others that kick her to the curb FORGOT that without PRESIDENT Clinton there would NOT have being a party !! it was almost dead until he came and won twice! that got them some life ,now the are killing him for fighting for his wife , how soon we forget!!!
Two runners, and the Judas snakes are on the side of the road telling her to step aside so that their lord and master (Obama) can get the top job . I agree with you whole hearted!!! I wonder if they are reading the blog?! if not they had better start!!!. WE WILL VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT THEIR HEN PICK CANDIDATE!!!!!!
#99 I Will VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT!!! thanks for your reply.

By the way, Charles
I mentioned on an abortion thread the other day that conservatives have a sliding scale on the value and sanctity of life. Unborn life in an American mother's womb is a 10 - and I hope I don't have to qualify that as an American white woman.

While the value and sanctity of life in the wombs of foreigners, particularly foreigners whom Bush has declared as evil or an enemy is zero.

Charles. Think of all the unborn life you can kill by destroying Iran. But then they deserve what they get, don't they.

Gestell, I agree no 3rd term for Bush
The single most important failure of Bush in foreign policy was based on his lack of experience in foreign policy. He had Colin Powell a great general who advised his father but Bush's inexperience made if impossible for him to fathom and maximize Powell's wisdom in foreign policy and military matters. I agree that McCain has some similarities with Bush, however, his experience in foreign policy and war makes him different in that he can make better judgement when it comes to the followint;
1. concluding Iraq wisely and with fewer casualties.
2. Using his 28 year relationships with fellow senators from ALL parties to make policies that are good for AMERICANS (not republicans or democrats but americans). His record shows that he is willing to take the difficult path when he is required to do so ......and not stick to party politics for political expediency.
3. I am more concerned about jihadists than mexicans. If we take care of jihadists first then we can discuss mexicans and other illegal aliens.
4. McCain did challenge Bush to 'change course in Iraq' even when he realized it could cost him the nomination. He put country above party - that is a good indication for what he will do when under pressure.
5. McCain has authored bills with people from ALL political backgrounds. Liberal Kennedy and conservative Coburn.....this is 'change' we can believe in. Bush was less tolerant of the liberals/and other democrats.
6. McCain's kids are serving in the military - It's difficult to believe he will wage a failing mission in Iraq when his 2 sons are likely to serve there.
7. When was the last time america had a 'main street' president? I like the idea that McCain is a self made main street man and not an Ivy league educated needing advisors and country club types to prep. his ego !

Charles
Do you see Iran exterminating Israel?

And by the way, you apparently think it is immoral for Iran to exterminate Israel, but perfectly fine for the United States to extirminate Iran.

Proud Liberal
Why do you refuse to answer my question (about Iran attacking Israel, which they have stated is their intention)?

Your assumption that all Conservatives are either religious or anti-abortion is not necessarily correct.

Proud Liberal , I am privileged enough
to own residences in ALL continents of the world. But I chose to become an american because this is still 'the greatest nation on earth'. Excuse me when I take issue with an unqualifed negro like obama having the audacity to say that as commander in chief his first priority will be to disarm the american military. This is the president jihadists have been waiting for and no amount of hoping and wishing can make this man qualified to be POTUS and commander in chief. The guy does not know what he believes about the lapelle pin - how confused is he? The man cites his grandmother's fears for blacks as a political ploy to win white voters over (how is that working for him?). Now he makes up a story about another relative who is supposed to have served the jews to gain those votes (turns out that too was a lie). He and his wife could not manage a simple budget including paying off student loans with a combined income of over 300K and they want to argue that they will 'improve our economy'. When asked to discuss his dividend tax plan and how it impacts 100 million americans, he whines that George and Charlie the friendliest journalists on the left are 'picking on him' and then proceeds to quote jay Z the rap artist indicating he is 'brushing it off'. This incompentent, unqualified, rap artist quoting inner chicago community organizer has lowered the presidential race to 'a night at the apollo with steve harvey'. His jive talking express is soon about to exit the stage as the crowd boos him off with less than 200 electoral votes in november. And this is the change americans can believe in.......

critical bill
aren't you the ex brit who being upset with your country of birth, recently relocated to america where you have decided to critisize your new country of residence.

Perhaps if you had been as vocal about conditions in england they wouldn't be sinking into the morass they find themselves.

But when non-citizens critisize america it is a sign of an ingrate who wants to enjoy the benefits of being in america but feels the need to critisize things they have no understanding of.

But I guess being a brit you have learned that since america played a role in saving your country in 2 previous world wars, arogance as opposed to gratitude is how you repay america's citizens.

With luck the citizens living in louisville will tire of your arogance and let you know how they feel about foreigners who critisize their country

POTUS Material?
“I knew Obama during the mid-1990s. The first time I introduced myself to him he said ‘Oh, you are the gun guy.’ I responded ‘Yes, I guess so.’ He simply responded, ‘I don’t believe that people should be able to own guns.”’ —Professor John Lott, PhD, author of More Guns, Less Crime

broken eagle , fairness is important ...
I really do not agree with Hillary on any issue - except when she opposed the Dubai Debucle - and I wrote thanking her for her patriotic gesture in standing up to Bush madness (and I voted for the man twice!). However, I believe that it is unamerican to bully a nominee out of the race. If Barak won the nomination fair and square, like he did in IA ( that was a proud moment for me as an american, I have relatives in IA and it made me proud to see them move past race in picking a nominee), then he would be an inexperienced candidate with a CREDIBLE NOMINATION TITLE. However, the way superdelegates and party officials have treated Hillary has made me - a hillary opposer - feel upset. I can only imagine what her true faithful supporters are feeling. The way Barak gets the nomination is tainted with 'changing party rules' to exclude FL and MI voters (an unconstitutional gesture). And asking Barak debate questions AFTER Hillary has given the answer so that his lack on knowledge is padded with answers like 'I agree with what senator clinton said'. This is how he answered the question regarding Russia's new president being hand picked by Putin. This man has not only fraudulently gained the nomination, he is the most unqualified, foreign-influenced person to run for POTUS. And that makes this proud american very upset - even if the victim is Hillary.

I hate to tell you this, Sarah
But your posts are filled with distortians and quarter truths. I expect this from Hannity on a daily basis, but have to ask myself whether you really think like this and are unable to distinguish your flawed thinking.

One example, which you called a lie from Obama. I understand, though don't know the truth, that in fact a great uncle of his did participate in freeing a concentration camp. I think it's easy to see that family stories get passed down from person to person, that Obama may not have remembered the details correctly or even heard them correctly.

Sarah, there are things that we might not know, but you seem not to be capable of understanding what you know from what you don't know and what you wish is the truth. You need help, girl.

Obama Weaker???
I sure hope you're right about this "O" man.
The things I've read on the internet are uncommon and ghastly for someone running for president. The "O" man wants CHANGE?
Does he mean....Change....or CHAINS ?

talking point: Yes, you nailed critter

Billy exactly! Apparently his mother neglected to teach him good manners, or much of anything for that matter.

Actually, his American wife married him and dragged him here... I think she's got some 'esplainin' to do! (Can you even imagine how desperate she has got to be? Geeze!)

Not that will do any good, but even my favorite Englishman took critter Billy to task, and him of what a sorry excuse for an Englishman he is......

Guess you just can't put lipstick on a pig!




the truth about the real obama..
Sen. Barack is a closet dictator, with ties to radical islamofacist, such as Al Qaeda, Hamas and Osama bin Laden, and radical american leftist such as William Ayers, Rev. Wright and Louis Farakan who plan on overthrowing the american government, install obama as dictator in a one party goverment which will be converted to one of Marxist, communism and socialism. The Republican Party will be outlawed. All its members including radical conservatives will bill exiled from the u.s. or killed. that is why his election will be "the end of the u.s. of a as we know it"

Proud Liberal
"Obama? I happen to like the way he thinks. I think he has a better understanding of things than most people. His major qualification is that understanding and his vision of where he would like to take the United States. That's the only qualification he needs."

It's too bad you and Left Angle don't live anywhere near each other ... you could hold a lug-nut convention! "Understanding of things" ... now there's a QUALIFICATION if I ever heard one! N-O-T! He doesn't even know that we don't have 58 states! Now, there's real understanding - don't even know his own country, but thinks he can CHANGE "THINGS" in it.

Where Obamanation wants to take the United States is down the crapper and into the larger sewer which is most of the rest of the world. You ought to be kissing the ground of the greatest nation in the world instead of wishing for and supporting its destruction.

As for you Left Angle, the only "explanation" you're going to get from me is to watch the video I linked above! If you have any brain left that is not totally rot, even you should be scared witless of what you see/hear there!

The man is a automaton for the socialist lug-nut left; but then you should recognize that since you are one.

It saddens me to see that you and Proud Liberal are two of the many rats that the Pied Piper Obamanation (whose strings are manipulated by puppeteer Soros) is piping to destruction. I, however, do NOT WISH TO JOIN YOU!

talking point, Bill is British? LOL!
You know I had a british education. One thing I can say is that churchill is turning in his grave if he can see the place once known as 'great britain' and how it has been reduced to 'just britain' by the masses of liberal thinkers like Bill and of course courtesy of muslim immigration leading to an 'almost' sheria law britain. Did you hear that they are considering sheria law as a form of legal system for the muslims who live in Britain? Isn't it amazing that the once 'great britain' was attacked twice by al qaeda and all they could show were people dancing in the street chanting 'Allah is Great' and saying 'God bless Bin Ladin'. Now I understand, Bill is depressed. If i were him, I'd ran away from home too......Dear Bill, I apologize for misjudging you. Soon, McCain will take care of the jihadist problem then you can go back home where you will be safe to use the London subway again without fear that a jihadist will get you. Again, i am sorry for not knowing your background. My sincere well wishes as you recover from .....ooooh shall we say, european liberal outcomes.

Sarah
Your WEAPONS dealing husband cans still earn a living without KILLING our young people and let "US" not forget the women and children of Iraq!Also I read your reference to the Commander-in-Chief aspect of the Presidency.You said,and I quote;"The Commander-in-Chief should lead his troops in battle".However,I could not find the part, which addressed them being led out.A suicide mission does no one any good.You must really "HATE" Mr.Obama.I pray, that you get the help,you so desperately deserve.

Left Angle, the constitution?
Did you find the role and responsibilities of POTUS in the constitution? If you did, then you will stop posting about Obama's fradulent candidacy. Until you understand this basic consitutional requirement of POTUS - please spare us your ignorance.

killer, commander in chief
that is the basic requirement of POTUS. Refer to kindergaten notes addressed to Left Angle. About iraq....why don't you invite Obama to share a joint with you, I heard he enjoys blowing smoke with people who kill americans. Hollar back Killer, the jive talking express is about to exit the station and the night at the apollo with steve harvey has just booed Obama Hussein mahmoud off the stage - what are you going to do? kill someone? Opps you already did!

Left Angle
"Subject: critical bill: isnt it odd
that right wingers such as sarah, OR and talking point keep saying things like:

"Obama isnt qualified to be potus."

and yet when you ask them for the "official"
qualifications for potus, they cant give an
straight answer.

also they things like:

"If Obama is elected potus, it will a disaster and the end of the usa as we know it."

then you ask them to give you a detailed explanation as to how this "disaster and the end of the u.s." will unfold under obama as potus" and they cant explain what they are predicting...it's very odd"

NO IT ISN'T! YOU JUST WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THEIR RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO DA-- LAZY AND ELITE TO LOOK, LISTEN AND LEARN FOR YOURSELF!

IF YOU TUNED IN TO SOME OTHER MEDIA THAN THE ALPHABET IDIOTS AND/OR READ SOME BOOKS AND WATCHED SOME VIDEOS OF PEOPLE WHO DO KNOW OBAMANATION'S "RECORD" ... YOU'D FIND YOUR "EXPLANATIONS". Dam--d if I'm gonna do your work for you! Figure it out - if you're able. Oh, maybe, you're a product of the "new" school system that has destroyed much of America's history and known/accepted/REQUIRED "qualifications" to become Commander in Chief!

Maybe you could start at a library that just might carry some of the TRUE history books of the United States!

Obviously, you're either too lazy and comfortable to bother to dig for the truth. You'd rather drink your Kool-Aid spoon-fed from the knotheads that are trying to turn this country into something disgusting and unrecognizable.

Not as long as I live and breathe!!!!

Proud Liberal , Military records are
public, at a minimum a man who wants to be president should know that before LYING about non-existent uncles who served in in the military. Please clarify is this a real uncle or is he like 'uncle Wright'? With Obama, personal relationships take on a whole new definition depending on where he is campaigning. Like Obama's pastor said "Barak is a politician who will say anything to get elected" - Wright is neither a member of the vast right wing conspiracy, the 'bitter and frustrated small town americans, or white. He is the man who mentored Obama for 20 years, married him and baptized his children. Is Wright a credible source? Believe Him, Obama is a LIAR!

Charles
"I know liberals (Socialists/Communists)like to round up people with different beliefs and put them in cages. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez, etc have all proved this. That's why we can't risk Obama."

Charles, have you forgotten that folks like Proud Liberal, Left Angle and like others on this board ARE devotees of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, Hugo Chavez, etc.; that's where they GET their Kool-Aid sotted thoughts - see: Hollyweirdos who spew the same crap! They just can't get enough of the real despots of the world, so they want America to be "just like them". America has lost millions of young soldiers fighting these wacko devils and that's why we can't let the home-grown variety win - no time, no how, nowhere!

Sarah, I'm afraid we have critter billy

forever. I know, pretty depressing, isn't it?

killer, Obama's suicide mission is
to disarm and destroy the USA military. He is on record as saying his first priority as commander in chief will be to end our nuclear capability. Here is a question for you - who benefits when Obama disarms america? Jihadists and our enemies who will find it easier to attack and defeat us. As a killer, you should know that once Obama has disarmed america, he will have paved the way for our enemies to destory us. This is the equivalent of a suicide bomber in the whitehouse......disarming america is the jihadist vision for america. Any man whose plans includes disarming america should not be elected to command the troops on any given day or at any level. Obama should even be voted out of the foreign relations committee.

Gestell
"Then comes the next problem. Do even you Republicans want what would amount to a 3rd term for George Bush? If you loved Bush, you'll love McCain."

Nice. You've been sipping from the mainstream media Kool-Aid, too, haven't you?

Everybody seems to forget how McCain has distanced himself from President Bush; and, even before announcing his campaign, was bent on foiling a lot of Bush's ideas.

There's no such thing as a Bush Third Term ... good grief ... GET OVER IT! Are you people STILL going to be spreading lies and trying to twist everything to suit your view, or even pursuing impeachment of a President who had the fortitude to protect us?

What a bunch of crap. No wonder we're in the predicament we're in. There are no longer people who give a da-- about America, only how high they can climb and what stinkin' lowdown damage they can do to further their own greed and power avarice.

Sickening - just sickening. And you call yourselves Americans? You wouldn't know the meaning of the word!

BO'S PRESIDENTIAL CREDENTIALS
Article II of the Constitution enumerates the qualifications for POTUS.

George Washington also thought this to be a qualification: "Associate with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation; for it is better to be alone than in bad company."

Left Angle
You want reasons Obama would destroy America?

#2. - Obama wants to give the United Nations authority to TAX Americans and use the money to "end World Poverty". (Oil for food scam come to mind?)
Such redistribution of wealth from Americans to impoverished Nations has the potential to impoverish Americans!
http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=11014611&ty pe=CO

#2. - Obama wants to reduce our military to a minuscule fraction of the present strength, use the money for social programs and expect the U.N. to provide for our National Defense.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/02/interventionism_obam astyle.html


Browse the "Progressive" Agenda and you will see reduction of military using money for social programs listed.
http://web.archive.org/web/20020215003619/www.dsausa.org/pc /pc.progag.html

Obama has an insane idea he can NEGOTIATE with Moslem fanatics;
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/316

Three good reasons to NOT vote for Obama!

Sarah
The next time, you and your husband, sell those weapons that kill the "Innocent".Let him give the Head and you the Tail.I meant the "Heads up".I keeping getting that mixed up...

Proud Liberal
"One example, which you called a lie from Obama. I understand, though don't know the truth, that in fact a great uncle of his did participate in freeing a concentration camp. I think it's easy to see that family stories get passed down from person to person, that Obama may not have remembered the details correctly or even heard them correctly."

Another thing (though minor) that Obamanation AND the proud and haughty media has gotten WRONG! There is no such thing as a "great Uncle". It's either "Grand Uncle" or "Great Grand Uncle". "Great" is next after "Grand". "Grand" always comes first! To simplify for those of you with questionable intel ... Grandmother is first before Great Grandmother - Get it? That's the way lineage follows!

Good grief, I thought everyone knew that!

I guess they shan't though, since they're mostly "Monkey's Uncles"!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Qualifications
To the best of my knowledge, the only qualifications for president are spelled out in the constitution: age (over 35) and birthplace (United States). Everything else falls under the heading of competency, and it's my belief that Senator Obama is qualified but not competent to be president.

Proud Liberal , Obama's hearing problem.
Military records are not 'things'. These are records of honorable men and women who serve our country. The men and women who serve deserve a commander in chief who knows that service is not a flippant story we tell but a life style full of honor, service and sacrifice. To Obama and his supporters - these are stories they tell when they are getting high on drugs d'jour. Also, Obama 'heard wrong' from relatives I suppose or maybe it was harvard law or Columbia that the United States has 58 states. Also, Obama 'heard wrong' when Wright declared that 'whitey' developed AIDs to kill blacks. Also, Obama 'heard wrong' when somebody convinced him that the lapelle pin represented 'false patriotism'. Also, Obama 'heard wrong' when he said 'people cling to guns and religion because they are bitter and frustrated about their economic condition'. Also, obama 'heard wrong' when he decided to remove his name from the Michigan ballot and later say 'it's not fair to count all the votes!'. Here is one thing Obama should hear correctly - his suicide mission to disarm american will never come to pass because americans are not stupid enough to elect him. A man with this many 'hearing wrong' problems should work in a silent auction not whitehouse.

Proud Liberal
"Charles. Think of all the unborn life you can kill by destroying Iran. But then they deserve what they get, don't they."

Anyone ever tell you you're an idiot? Allow me to confirm that thought.