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Friday, February 23, 2007
John Hawkins :: Townhall.com Columnist
The top 9 reasons why a Democratic president can't handle the war on terrorism
by John Hawkins
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Many people assume that the Democrats' opposition to the war on terrorism and their unwavering determination to undercut the war in Iraq are solely an outgrowth of their dislike of George Bush. While Bush Derangement Syndrome and raw political considerations certainly are part of the problem, you've got to understand that the modern Democratic Party is simply no longer capable of dealing with a conflict like the war on terrorism because of the weird ideological tics of liberalism.

Look at how weak and helpless Jimmy Carter was when he was confronted by the Iranians. And Bill Clinton? Despite being prodded to take action time and time again by world events like the bombing of the World Trade Center, Saddam Hussein's attempted assassination of George Bush, Sr., the Khobar Towers bombing, the embassy bombings in Nairobi and Tanzania, the bombing of the USS Cole, along with India, Pakistan, and North Korea acquiring nuclear weapons under his watch, Clinton seemed incapable of dealing effectively with any serious foreign policy challenges.

That being said, if this nation were unfortunate enough to be burdened for four years with Barack Obama, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton or one of the other liberals contending for the Democratic nomination, things would be even worse this time around. Why would that be the case? There are a variety of reasons for it.

1) The Democratic insistence on treating the war on terrorism as a law enforcement issue will make it extremely difficult to deal with terrorist groups. When you have heavily armed terrorists ensconced in foreign nations, sometimes with the approval of their government, it's simply not practical to capture them, read them their rights, and take them back to America for trial. That is something that should be obvious after that approach was tried by Bill Clinton in the nineties and it failed to produce results. Going back to it in the post 9/11 world, which is what the Democrats want to do, is nothing but an invitation to catastrophe.

2) Ronald Reagan once said that, "Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong." Conversely, a super power that seems weak invites attack. After spending the last six years railing against the Bush Administration and fighting tooth and nail against almost every measure that makes it tougher on the terrorists, a Democratic victory in 2008 would be viewed by the world as nothing less than an American capitulation in the war on terror. This would encourage the terrorists to launch more attacks and cause our allies in the fight to lose heart.

3) When the only credible Democratic voice on national security in the Senate, Joe Lieberman, was defeated in the Democratic primary last year, the message sent to Democrats was, "Being serious about defending America may cost you your job." After that, elected Democrats became even more reluctant to stand up against terrorism, which is really saying something, since the Democratic Party has been nothing but a hindrance in the war on terrorism since they voted en masse for the war in Afghanistan.

4) The Democratic base doesn't take terrorism seriously and considers it to be nothing more than a distraction from socializing the economy, raising taxes, promoting gay marriage, and the other domestic issues that are near and dear to the heart of liberals. It's old hat to hear Democrats say that they think global warming is more dangerous than terrorism, but at one point in 2006, 94% of the readers at the most popular liberal blog on earth, the Daily Kos, were actually saying that they thought that corporate media consolidation was a greater threat than terrorism. If you have a Democratic base that isn't serious about fighting terrorism -- and it isn't -- you will have a Democratic President that isn't serious about fighting terrorism.

5) Using the American military to further the interests of our country makes liberals uncomfortable, even though they're usually happy to send the troops gallivanting off to the latest godforsaken hotspot that has caught the eye of liberal activists. That's why many Democrats, like Hillary Clinton, who oppose winning the war in Iraq, are all for using our military in Sudan. However, it is also why those same liberals will oppose using our military to tackle terrorists abroad except in Afghanistan, where it would be politically damaging for them to call for a pull-out.

6) When the U.N. Security Council has members like China, France, and Russia that seem to be financially in bed with every country we end up at loggerheads with, the UN is going to be even more hapless and ineffective than normal. Since the Democrats are so hung up on getting UN approval for everything we do, it will be practically impossible for them to move forward on any serious, large scale foreign policy enterprise.

7) The Democrats are overly concerned with "international opinion," AKA "European opinion." The Europeans have mediocre militaries, pacifistic populations, fetishize international law, and have extremely inflated views of their own importance. Other than Britain, they don't have much to offer in a military conflict, yet even getting token forces from them that are minimally useful is like pulling teeth. Getting large numbers of European nations to cooperate with us on military ventures that are important to American security will be nearly impossible at this point -- yet since Democrats place a higher priority on European approval than our national security, they will insist on it. This, combined with the logjam at the UN, would hamstring any Democratic President.

8) The Democrats want to close Guantanamo Bay and put the terrorists held there into the American court system. The justice system in the United States is simply not designed to deal with and interrogate terrorists or enemy fighters captured overseas by our troops. Putting the terrorists held at Gitmo into our court system would only mean that hundreds of terrorists would be freed on technicalities because it's not advisable to reveal intelligence methods -- or because our soldiers aren't trained in the legal niceties that are necessary for policemen, but should be irrelevant in a war zone. How absurd would it be to catch a Taliban fighter entering Afghanistan, take him back to the United States, have him released by a liberal judge, and then dropped back off on the Afghan border where he'd be back shooting at our troops the next day? If a Democrat wins in 2008, we will get to find out all about it first hand.

9) The intelligence programs that have helped prevent another 9/11 would be curtailed under a Democratic President. As a general rule, Democrats favor weakening our military and intelligence agencies. Add to that the complete hysteria we've seen from liberals over programs like the Patriot Act and the NSA tapping calls from terrorists overseas to people in the U.S. Under a Democratic President, we would be sure to see our intelligence agencies systematically stripped of the powers they need to detect and foil terrorist plots.

If a Democrat were to win in 2008, it would give terrorists worldwide a four year respite to rebuild, reload, and run wild without serious opposition from the United States. The price our nation and our allies would pay in blood and treasure for that mistake would be incalculable.

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Reasson Number Ten
Democrat(ick)s faint at the sight of blood.

Reason Number Eleven:
Democrat(ick)s are confused about who exactly is the enemy.

Rose
They know who the enemy is and it is US!

Don't belive me, then just ask Kimberly. (heh, heh)

I don't think we are going to have to wait 4 years. I'm pretty sure with the current leadership in congress, they will make sure the enemy has an oportunity within the next TWO years!

Hitlary......
......has stated recently that we are not equipping our soldiers before we send them to battle. Murtha has responded by trying to delay troops from entering the battlefield.

It is absolutely amazing to me that a soldier that has blogged on this very site, disputes this crap: "Not a single GI is sent out beyond any compound without full protection". So tell me, what exactly are these two doing besides hindering our troops and putting them at a disadvantage?

Will the great senator from NY actually speak to a soldier in the field in order to back up her BS?

I doubt it seriously! I think she is getting her intel from that great 'stab 'em in the back' Marine, Murtha! Why should we question such heroic rhetoric?

I am ashamed these people call themselves AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!

If we can prove the enemy is benefiting from the slander these two are projecting onto our troops, CAN WE HANG 'EM?

Full Protection
Don't you realize that when a Democrat says "full protection" she means CONDOMS?

Login Leery
That was a great post on my blog you left. Thx.

I agree with you that we ARE our own worst enemy. I posted a quote on my blog about 5-6 articles back, that has a quote of Lincoln on exactly that!

Also, I suggest reading, "The Balkinization of America." It examines the game plan of the libdolts on how they are going about killing the American experiment through diversity, multi-culturalism, etc.

Login Leery
FYI, there have been several posts by soldiers and Marines refuting Hitlary's nonsense on different columns' threads... and I suspect some will appear here today as well.

Primus54

(I think there might be a few under Ann Coulter's column from Wednesday)

Login leery
When I couldn't sleep, I was so glad to see your posts on the other threads and glad that someone else likes the use of "strong" vocabulary!! You aren't in Siberia,YAY!!! Kimberly brings out the best(beast?) in me, haahaa. Keep it up...

Login Leery
Great post and vice hanging them, I'd rather tar and feather them and slap them in a pillory so that I can throw rotten eggs and veggies at them! haha.

Of course, we could just exile them to France!

BTW, watch out for language, etc, since you may get to experience banishment to Siberia like many of us have. It's no fun not being here to slam libdolts and chat with fellow conservatives.

Jabelson
I see you've got the Democrat(ic) talking points down pat.

The "history" you've posted is totally without historical context and is disingenuous in the extreme.

But if you want to believe such bilge, that is your right -- just don't expect you'll sway any opinions here.

I wonder why this is even up
for discussion. There will be no war on terror if a Dem become president. It's not just that they could not fight it, they will not even try.

Instead they will bloviate, attack a few camels and tents, and stick their collective heads in the sand.

Jabelson is right
TH columnists seem to suffer from Carter Derangement Syndrome (reviling the only moralist President since Lincoln) and Clinton Derangement Syndrome (reviling the President who showed that competence pays, in Bosnia, and in the economy). Their irrational hatred for any truly great President is caused by deep set insecurities. They need a peacock who can strut (and stutter) on stage and not ask them to think.

How do you tell who’s a Democrat

A school class group vested Washington last week. A little boy looks at a picture of congress on the steps of the capital building and was impressing. When he got home he tolls his dad about the trip and the picture of congress on the steps of the capital building. His dad was listening to one of the talk radio shows and the little boy heard the talk show host call the Democrat cowards for there vote on the war. The little boy then asks his dad how you can tell Democrat from Republican in the picture. His dad looks at him and asks him did they have the same picture with just there back showing. The little boy replied that he did not see one. The dad then told him that if there had been a picture of there back he would able to tell the difference. The little boy then asks how you would be able to tell. The dad then told him that the all the Democrat would have a yellow strip down there back and the Republican with red and yellow strip down there backs think and act like Democrat.



Another Lib/Dem ostrich
Jabelson writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 7:16 AM
The only problem with this theory...
Is it's wrong!

If Reagan was so tough - how come the terrorists killed 300 Marines in their sleep - and he did nothing?

Because congress threatened to cut off the funds paying for their deployment to Lebanon. I believe that he also had to deal with European libs whining about him starting a Middle East war. I was a teenager then and I didn’t pay attention to world events so my memory could be faulty.

If Republicans are so tough - how come Bush the First allowed Saddam to get away?

Again it was advice from Arabist and European liberals that convinced him not to roll up Sadam. Something about the coalition falling apart and our Arab allies turning on us. I didn’t see much TV then because I was there and we didn’t have AFN and the like as we do here in Iraq.

Oh, the terrorists MUST be scared of Republicans - after all, it was on Bush's watch -with a full Republican Congress - that the largest terrorist attack took place on American soil - and bin Laden still is free.

After Klintoon failed to accept Osama from the Sudanese and he slipped off to Afghanistan. Also your hero “Slick Willy” just ignored all the attacks that led up to 9/11.

I know it's fun to blame Clinton - but if I recall, during his years, Republicans held both houses of Congress. It's funny, you can google Monica and get a lot of Republican quotes. Do the same thing with bin Laden - you get nothing. Republicans have failed this country - worse, they failed their base.

Again Klintoon was CIC and ultimately it is his responsibility for his actions or in Osama’s case inaction.

Which party has closer connections to the Saudis? Which party's VP shook the hand of Saddam?

Which party has failed twice in Iraq?

Failed how? By being convinced to quit early the first time and by being stabbed in the back the second to make sure you fail?

Which party is America going to blame for this current fiasco - not to mention bin Laden's laughter - which rings freely across the terrorist world.
Which party supplied arms to Iran?

If the Dems keep acting like you; it will be them. The American military will not forgive and forget a second time around. And flyover America as you all call it is not stupid either.

Which party armed the Taliban?
Neither. The Taliban funded themselves through rich Saudi donors and the opium trade.

Which party armed the Islamic Freedom Fighters (a la Bin Laden) during the Soviet invasion of Afghanastan (you know, Like Iran arms them today?)
Which President - Bush or Clinton, commands more respect in the international community?

F the international communities they have no say in my country. They don’t live here; so they have no say. When they start paying for their own defense and stop relying on the U.S. I might consider their point of view, but I highly doubt it. My country comes first always.

I really hope Republicans keep running on this theme - one of competence and bravery and "toughness."

We'll have the White House for sure!

All your positions above are half truths or lies, but what shines through is your total dedication to the Democrat party. Your hatred blinds you to the reality of the world as it is not as you wish. Go ahead and berate me again like you did in another thread. I can take it, but you losers can’t. So once again STFU Clown.

I detest any submission to a people who have either ceased to be human, or have not virtue enough to feel their own wretchedness. If ye love comfort better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, [then] go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands of your master. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!"
-Patrick Henry

Jugular
Man...you get after it. Your articles are great. I can hear libs screaming and cursing your name every time I read you. I bet you get a lot of hate mail and love every bit of it. I know I would. I bet they accuse you of calling them unpatriotic. To heck with them. Keep blasting.

Why does this guy have a column?
I could get more depth and insight from a high school kid. The cliche'd rantings of this meathead don't even warrant a comment by Phylo Se Fiser.

Phylo out.

They only wage war on America
The leading democrats (with the exception of Joe Lieberman) have not engaged in the idea of winning the war...only in running away from it.
As far as I can see, they've put no thought into anything except blaming and beating the current administration. Thus the only practice they've had in war is the one they've waged on the President. So, aside from the fact that they haven't the will, they lack experience.

allegience
The party of Marxists will go to war against any nation seeking to destroy communism (why they ensured that the USA would leave Viet Nam in defeat). They had a problem fighting against the Islamo-fascists seeking to destroy us but they had no problem fighting against the Serbs who were "paying back" the Islamo-fascists for previous war crimes. The Democrats (Marxists) abhor fighting a war against any nation seeking to destroy the Constitutional Republic of the USA as that is their agenda. They are indeed a party of traitors who relish the thought of the collapse of our Constitutional Republic.

Anatomical Shortages
Vertabrae and testes. Or at least the behavior of those who have them.
LGM -YGBSM Carter a moralist? He may have been a moral person, but his "great malaise" vision of America made any real man (or woman) want to puke. Clinton & competence? His claim to fame is seducing interns. The economy of the 90s was the result of the Regan tax cuts.
The only villians of the Dems are American or capitalist.

Phylo Se Fiser: Really?
I could get more depth and insight from a high school kid. The cliche'd rantings of this meathead don't even warrant a comment by Phylo Se Fiser.

+ Really? As opposed to your consistantly puerile rhetoric reflecting a pedestrian intellect? Post-modern Neo-marxism is as nuanced as a sludgehammer.

+ Thank you, but I'm going to have to kindly decline your generous offer to join your hallucination. Please return your seat to its upright position & promptly depart to your alternate reality.

Dems unsuitable for war on terrorism
Along with all the other points(9 in all), one
was forgotten. A Democrapic president would
have to have one nanny staff member just to
change his or her diaper 48 times a day just
because they would be so scared standing up
to terrorists that the crap they are so full
of would wind up overfilling diapers every
30 minutes.

WHY BUSH CAN'T HANDLE THE WAR ON TERROR
WE GET THE GOVERNMENT WE DESERVE… and, boy, we’ve really been getting it for the last 6 years! Truth, values, competence and results no longer matter in America.

THE PROBLEM: our President is not a rational thinker – his mind accepts information from only two sources: faith and experience. A notable example from Iraq, Bush learned the "the enemy will follow us here" from Vietnam and the Domino Theory: “If we don’t defeat the communists in Vietnam, then we’ll have to fight them here in America.” Now just insert “terrorists” and “Iraq” into the one lesson Bush learned from Vietnam. Of course, the real terrorists who will come to America are in Afghanistan and now the border regions of Pakistan.

Because George Bush is not rational (strictly empirical and subjective), objective facts and evidence such as the recent National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) that found this Iraq war has created more jihadists and terrorists and made America less safe are meaningless to this anachronistic man of several millennia ago. The reality of Iraq is what he thinks it is from the beautiful White House, and so our country and our precious soldiers are in for much more of this growing catastrophe, incompetence at the top from day one and continuing into the foreseeable future, and SPIN, SPIN, SPIN (from “shock and awe” to “surge,” everyone stand up and shout for failed policies).

The next application of Bush's mind to our tribulations... GOOD NEWS! God has spoken directly to George Bush (again) and told him to go to war with Iran after the November 2006 elections. This new war should go as well as the Iraq war (our President’s last guidance from “a higher authority,” “another Father” than Bush41) and further help over one billion Muslims in their decision to fight America in a mutual holy war. When the President finally increases the level of hatred against the United States to where it engulfs Pakistan, then we face nuclear terror, and Biblical Armageddon becomes real and a self-fulfilling prophecy. Oh, the joy, the Rapture!

Without rational thinking, bumping into reality is always a shock! FUTURE SHOCK… Right now roiled Pakistan is just one assassin’s bullet away from going under, and still jihad recruitment is only in its infancy. The Crusades of long ago are living history in the Middle East, so Muslims are already primed for another war with Christian invaders; and our “bring it on” cowboy President is only rekindling and fueling this centuries-old fire.

Of course, talking with adversaries (instead of war) requires rational thought… AMERICAN DIPLOMACY, now there’s an oxymoron! The leader of Iran comes off as a whacko, however, the Iranians and the entire rest of the world view George Bush in the same way, so there is a common starting point. Real diplomacy involves talking with your adversary one-on-one without preconditions, and there’s a lot to discuss with Iran: the CIA in the 1950s, the Shah, the 1979 hostage crisis, sponsorship of terror, Israel and justice in the Middle East, and nuclear issues. But if past is prelude, Bush’s diplomacy with Iran will be perfunctory and rigged - this time, our mentally unbalanced, messianic President needs to provoke a war, AND HE WILL FIND A WAY!

1 thing democrats won't do
Is start unecessary wars under the guise of terrorism (see Iraq)

Kimmy
You must have brown eyes. What makes me think this? You're so full of sh*t. Halliburton syndrome? Yeah, right. Next It's black helicopters. Carter was, no is a wimp. In fact his picture is in the dictionary next to the word. He was too busy trying on sweaters to do anything about the kidnaping of American citizens by Iranian Islamists. Clinton prosecuted the 93 WTC bombers-that points out the biggest problem with the Clinton law enforcement approach. Giving people like the blind shiek lawyers like the bimbo who broke the law by passing illegal communications to her client, then the f***ing moron judge gives her 28 months.
Bush started terrorism? Put down the crack pipe NOW. The history of terrorism goes back to the 72 Olympics when Black September guerillas kidnapped Israeli athletes in Munich. WTF did GWBush have to do with that?

To Kimberly
Kimberly writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 9:12 AM

Normally I just let these things pass, but not this time. I have to give a rebuttal.

Kimbat: Because Bush started it all? Just a guess considering the man who has single-handedly made terrorism several hundred times worse than when he took office.

Resp: Lets see, they struck us what, 4 or 5 times pre-Bush and none since then? How is that worse? What is your yardstick for measuring this worsening condition?

Kimbat: First off, the sniggling falsehoods in Hawkins predictable anti-Dem vitriole. Carter wasn't 'weak' in confronting Iran, he was OUTBID - by YOUR guys, who weren't in the office of the President and didn't have the Constitution behind their secretive, deceptive, backstabbing manuever.

Resp: Carter was not just weak on Iran, he created the mess in Iran. I suggest you go directly to your nearest library and get a few history books to read. If you can’t stand history books, then read Whirlwind by James Clavell.

Kimbat: Clinton imprisoned the terrorists behind the WTC bombing. Remember? What exactly has Bush done since 1). The Cole bombing - the culprits were revealed after HE took office. Did HE arrest anyone? Didn't think so.

No, Bush doesn’t believe in prosecuting the slugs. He believes in killing them. See below link:

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/11/04/yemen.blast/index.html

Kimbat: Before 9/11 Bush had over 50 warnings of terrorists attacks on US soil. What did he do to step up security? Riiiiight. Nothing.

Response: We have all seen the response from the 9-11 commission on this and there is no need for you to make up lies out of thin air. Kimbat: After 9/11. Well, we all know how that went. Saudis behind the attacks: Still free. Osama: Still free. Homeland Security: Still pathetically lacking, but not for lack of funds. Halliburton syndrome?

Resp: None needed, incoherent babbling does not require a response.


JohnCitizen
Buy a dictionary Bozo. Empirical-based on experience. Subjective-base on what one believes(faith). Draw your own conclusions.

Kimberly: Really?
Just a guess considering the man who has single-handedly made terrorism several hundred times worse than when he took office.

First off, the sniggling falsehoods in Hawkins predictable anti-Dem vitriole.
Carter wasn't 'weak' in confronting Iran, he was OUTBID - by YOUR guys, who weren't in the office of the President and didn't have the Constitution behind their secretive, deceptive, backstabbing manuever.

+Gratuitous assertion: you are obviously referring to the “October surprise” myth championed by fringe pedantics like yourself. Democrat-controlled congress invested myth and found no basis. REALITY: Iran feared Reagan vice Carter’s inept passivity which allowed the Iranians to hold US hostages over 400+ days & culminated w/ Carter’s half-assed, ill-prepared rescue attempt, resulting in the deaths of several US servicemen. The US Joint Forces Command was established due to Carter’s inept plan IOT prevent similar disasters from happening. Carter’s inept foreign policy was the start of this whole problem…

Clinton imprisoned the terrorists behind the WTC bombing. Remember? What exactly has Bush done since 1). The Cole bombing - the culprits were revealed after HE took office. Did HE arrest anyone? Didn't think so.

+ Really? Remember the “Peace Dividend” that essentially gutted the military IOT pay for the increase in “Welfare Industrial Complex” spending that benefits women-children who think like you? UNNECESSARY WAR? How about our misadventures in Bosnia (Bombing/killing hundreds of innocent women & children in Belgrade), Haiti (Black congressional caucus playing the race card IOT put their pet Marxist thug, Aristide, back in power (I WAS THERE)), and of course Somalia (the 9/11 commission indicated that Clinton’s mishandling of the campaign emboldened UBL in directing the 9/11 attacks.) We’re still in Bosnia & Haiti- where’s our exit strategy, Kimberly???

2). Before 9/11 Bush had over 50 warnings of terrorists attacks on US soil. What did he do to step up security? Riiiiight. Nothing.

+ Eight years (Clinton) verses eight months (Bush): do the math. Additionally, The Hildabeast was one of Jamie Gorelick's greatest advocates for appointment to the position of Assistant Attorney General under the ham-fisted Attorney General Janet Reno. Ms. Gorelick was responsible for drafting the infamous 1996 Justice Department memo creating a "Chinese Firewall" between the FBI and CIA WRT sharing intelligence. This blinded both departments from deducing the existence of the 9/11 conspiracy. Circumstantial evidence indicates that she then hid the existence of said memo IOT protect the Clinton legacy. She subsequently had the intestinal fortitude to refuse resigning from the 9/11 commission despite the blatant conflict of interest.

And 3). After 9/11. Well, we all know how that went. Saudis behind the attacks: Still free. Osama: Still free. Homeland Security: Still pathetically lacking, but not for lack of funds. Halliburton syndrome?

+ Really? How do we go after Bin Laden when he’s protected by a ruthless, 7th century AD culture? By violating Pakistan’s sovereignty & killing hundreds of Pashtun tribesmen, women & children who value hospitality & honor paid to valued guests over $ just to get at Bin Laden? Boy are you ignorant of your History. These cats’ ancestors forced Alexander the Great south into India in the 3rd century BC. But I guess that history doesn't exist before Marx, Engels & Friedan.

Democrat Avenger: Un-necessary wars?
Democrat Avenger writes:
1 thing democrats won't do
Is start unecessary wars under the guise of terrorism (see Iraq)

+No, they start un-necessary wars for the following morally superior reasons:
(a) No strategic value other than UN/European popular opinion:
+ Our misadventures in Bosnia (Bombing/killing hundreds of innocent women & children in Belgrade)
+Our misadventures in Somalia, where several US Rangers/Delta force soldiers were killed because the Clinton administration wouldn’t authorize the use of armored vehicles (too OFFENSIVE you know)
(b) Racial politics: Black congressional caucus playing the race card IOT put their pet Marxist thug, Aristide, back in power in Haiti.

+We’re still in Bosnia & Haiti- where’s our exit strategy, DA???



ONLY ONE REASON NEEDED
Dems (the present crop) cant handle the war on terror is because they are part of it. It's a tough decision to determine just what is more damaging to our country. A potential terror strike that can take out a city or us slowly succumbing to the dems scraping of the Constitution in-leu of their social engineering ideas and drive towards socialism.

I am surprised
no one has mentioned that the republicans haven't shown their ability to wage the "war on terror" because we have been fighting in Iraq, which had nothing to do with the "terror" that caused 911.

Or conversely, if the repubs idead of waging war on terror is attacking a country wholly unrelated than they certainly have not done a good job.

is is any wonder Bin Laden sought to have Bush reelected when he released his infamous tape the friday before the '04 elections warning Americans not to vote for Bush - that is precisely what he wanted because he like the way Bush wages war on terror.

The Libs Misnomer of Iraq and Terrorism
I get so tired of libs spouting off saying Iraq had nothing to do with the war on terror. They never seem to realize that the LACK OF A RESUMPTION IN MILITARY ACTIVITIES AGAINST IRAQ for 12 long years while they had countless violations against UN Res. 687 ONLY ENCOURAGED BIN LADEN. He even said so himself. So our appeasement of Iraq during the 90's was direcly involved with the resulting terrorism that followed.

Jabelost
Articpara85 had it right, I served my Country for 25 yrs,Vietnam,Desert Storm and Beruit for 7 mos but we went there to try to seperate the conflicting parties and Para85 had it right,the Dems were so worried that they had the Marines in a passive stance not a offensive one,we were not allowed to fire unless fired upon which led to the tragedy,also it was later that thru intel that the U.S found that the Bombers of the Marine Barracks had ties to Libya,and we know what Reagan did with Them don't we.Bush Sr not only spent 12 yrs in the White House as V.P and Pres and 50+ yrs including WWII serving our Country, that trying to compare Draft dodging Clinton to him just prooves how little you know about the subject,and JR was in the White House 6 mos before the Terrorists attack, so what was LITTLE WILLY doing the prior 8 yrs when the terrorists got into our Country,lived learned and planned the attacks.LITTLE WILLY thought that BJ'S were more important,thinking that he was the modern day Kennedy.

Eagleone
You said, "Dems (the present crop) cant handle the war on terror is because they are part of it. It's a tough decision to determine just what is more damaging to our country. A potential terror strike that can take out a city or us slowly succumbing to the dems scraping of the Constitution in-leu of their social engineering ideas and drive towards socialism."

I'd say the latter. But it is not just the "Dems" leading the charge towards more and more socialism, it is also the Republicans.

You mention scrapping the Constitution.... yes, indeed and this administration has stomped all over it every chance they have gotten. Patriot Act, Military Commission Act, not protecting our border, signing an agreement with Canada and Mexico (spp) to merge us into a NA Union, illegal wiretaps, and on and on.

Or, is it that you believe that it is ok to stomp all over the Constitution, if it is a Republican doing it?

"Out here"
As I recall, we funded the mujhadeen during their war against the Soviets. The vast majority of funds went to elements of the Mujahadeen who became the Northern Alliance. Bin Laden was one group that we refused to fund. That was under Carter and Reagan's administration. Carter funded it only after his anti-communist National Security advisor pressed him to do so.

Reagan wasn't able to complete his mission in Lebanon because Congress threatened to cut off funds for the mission.

Reagan did however, smack down Ghaddafi and capture one of the Achile Lauro terrorists in a daring Special Ops operation.

Clinton knew about the threats from terrorists
during his 8 years in office. His problem was that he surrounded himself with lawyers like Sandy Burglar. So he treated the terrorist problem as if it were a criminal problem.

He also didn't exactly cooperate with the incomming Bush administration. The liitle man with the big ego...Richard Clarke was incapable of working with the Bush Administration, because he was such a putz.

Bush II had 8 months to comprehend the threat posed by Bin Laden & Co. All the while, a policy had been put in place by Jamie Gerelic that prevented the FBI and CIA from working together and sharing information.

Let's not forget the 1998 opportunity that we had to bomb Bin Laden. A Spec Ops group was in Afghanistan within siight of Bin Laden and was unable to pull the trigger because Sandy Burglar chickened out.

The Clinton administration liked to wag the dog and look good, but had all the moxy of a nervous
chihuaha. So much sound and noise, but no substance.

Clinton punked out because he was more concerned about what the world thought about him and his freaking legacy, that he didn't give a hoot about the security of this country. Talk is cheap. Either walk the talk or step aside.

After 9-11 Bush walked the talk. People can disagree all they want. At least Bush has canastas. Bet he knows that a BJ is sex too.

And what are Democrats all about? They talk a good game, they finger-point and criticize. And when it comes to getting the job of protecting this country they talk about domestic issues as being more important.

So much Democratic sound and fury. Even in this blog!! Wow I'm so impressed. Whoo!! More like a fart in the wind if you ask me.

What you democrats don't have is moral clarity, integrity and the necessary courage to lead this country in battle against the enemies of liberty.

You have no justice, no sense of fair play, no intellectual honesty and little common sense.

"Out here"...by the way, is abrupt and arrogant; unless one is among friends.

Try a different tact, slick.

The Dems tactic of always being a jerk is just another example of their pomposity and impotent intellect. Get some toilet paper, and wipe yourselves Dems, cause you stink.

9/11 report reference
Kim, You seem like a well informed lib (he, he) and I found your reference to the 9/11 commission report interesting. Got a question for you, what did berger steal for clinton?? He admitted to it and the MSM has done a great job not reporting on it. Last I heard he was going to have a lie detector taken. Just what did he take for his boss?
As for the "Bush toady" (that is sooo cure), I really don't think gorelick would allow any thing that could hurt Bush stay under wraps. So, bite your lower lip, tell us how you feel our pain and enlighten us.
Can't wait to read your answer. Thanks for the consideration.
Also, which flavor of koolaid do you prefer? You know there's a site on CBS.com that runs all kinds of left wing friendly stories that you can post comments to. You know, I think you do post there.

greetings all just back from iraq ai for
Hey Kimbat.

I was just wondering where you get all your information from. What branch of the armed forces have you served in? I myself have 6 months left until I retire from the strongest navy in the world and from the front lines may I say you are so out there in la la land that it is not even funny.

See you guys this is comeing from experience. The guy's I serve with read these post's and are so sick of people like kimbat ande philo who have no clue. They had only one wish and that is to bring kimbat and philo over here to iraq and put them on the street with no armor and we will wear our armor and see who is protected.

All so the hillary out burst hit my watch team so hard that she is about to get more than a 75 hate e-mail's.

Stand bye kimbat and Philo you are about to get a million hate-mails from the entire iraqi southeren watch team.

V/R DC1(SW/MTS) Robert.c.Bradley
USN AD

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Well said, patriot. To the point, clear and concise. Kim and the other libs still probably won't get it.

Welocme back, Damcon1sw
Our grand daughter is serving on the Kitty Hawk and she had to honor to shake Cheney's hand. She loves her job and the Navy as is also disgusted with what is going on here.
Think I'll clue her into this site so she can converse with Kim.

No spell check
I meant to say "the honor to shake Cheney's hand" & "and is also disgusted, etc, etc". Sorry, rushing here.

Its not a war on Terrorism
One of the biggest mistakes was to declare a war on Terrorism. By doing so we have never named the enemy and caused some public confusion. The war is against Islamic Extremism which is represented by Terrorist groups such as Alcaeda and Hezbollah and many others but not by any one nation. You cannot say on one hand we are fighting a war on Terrorism then turn around and call Islam a religion of peace. This confuses the public and muddies the waters in general. Radical Islam stems from an interpretation of the Koran and whether it is a correct interpretation does not matter as much as the so called majority of peaceful Muslims fail to speak out strongly or better yet take strong action against the Radicals. They only protest such things as cartoons or statements by the Pope which leads one to believe that a cartoon can do more damage to Islam than a bomber blowing up people and buildings, buses and subways. If they really feel that way then the peaceful Muslims are part of the problem and the entire problem ought to be debated in the media, in Congress and by the candidates instead of being ignored or swept under the rug as it is now.

Mr. hawkins cant be taken seriously
when he absolute nonsense like this it's obvious
this dude is mentally unstable.

"If a Democrat were to win in 2008, it would give terrorists worldwide a four year respite to rebuild, reload, and run wild without serious opposition from the United States. The price our nation and our allies would pay in blood and treasure for that mistake would be incalculable"

furthermore what the heck do you think they are doing NOW under President Bush?

Proud American
Almost sounds like we overlapped in those great duty spots. Kimbat as usual spouts pure dailykos, no real fact, no knowledge of history , probably wouldn't read Clavells book cause like her head its too thisck

Dumb article
Hawkins is living in a fantasyland. If there was really a war on terror Bush would have closed our southern border with Mexico 3 years ago.

How does one fight a war on terror by attacking a country that never did anything to you? Could anything be dumber? Furthermore, one does not send a uniformed army to fight an enemy with no uniform, as that enemy is invisible and therefore cannot be beaten.

We are in Iraq because Israel (through their influence in Washington) has pushed us in there for their benefit--not ours.This whole war on terror is a sham, it really doesn't exist, but is being used by Bush to further his New World Order, a.k.a. a One World Government. And that is something I do not want my kid dying for!

Partition the USA
Let the libs have the blue states and let's see if they survive another 4 years. I'm betting against it because I submit that one of their first acts of legislation would be to disband the military. Shouldn't need one, given that they are so intellectually superior to us, just ask one!

So, there should be no doubt, in their mind at least, that they have nothing to fear from the crazy looking man in the white robe holding a dull kitchen knife. I am sure he would be willing to listen to reason. After all, it was all Bush's fault! But damn, whose fault was it before GWB took over the white house?

And hey, if the terroist don't get them they'll certainly tax themselves to death because that will be their second act of legislation!

Our first act would be to pass meaningful and strict border security, not just to keep the latinos out, but to keep the libs out!

Bingo
Kimberly is right! "The right continues to postulate that there have been no new terror attacks SINCE 9/11 - As if that, in itself, is a victory."

You guys are ignorant to believe the absence of attacks means we are winning...true "victory" can only be defined as a few mushroom clouds over our major US cities.

It's the same with the police around here...I have never been robbed, so I know they must be screwing around at a donut shop somewhere.

Point to ponder: Is Kimbat the biggest idiot, or are we bigger idiots for constantly trying to educate her? Would you send your 2 y.o. to college?


the list is missing
1- Won't do anything about the illegal immigration issue.

Remember? That was the issue the absolutist insisted was more important than the war, the courts, the taxes. SO important that they were willing to let the majority in Congress change parties.

Now, what's the difference between Liberals who hate Bush so much they are willing to lose the war...and absolutist who hate illegals (aka Mexicans--haven't heard much about the northern border)they are willing to cut and run from Iraq?


Right...it's the PRINCIPLE.

A great campaign doc for all federal Gop
This is an excellent campaign doc for every one of the federal Gop candidates to put on their website and in their campaign material. The fact is, the Bushies have not stood up to the lefty media, the lefty Kos types and the Dems when defending military and foreign policy agendas. It took Cheney until now to defend a war against Islamofascism which needs fighting and will be a generational battle whether the Dems want it to be or not. Instead of playing nice, as Bush does in almost every policy dispute, print and speak out as this fellow did. The American voter needs to hear this well thought out and presented set of facts to realize what jeopardy we face. kgk.townhall.com

foreign fighters
many of the foreign fighters in iraq were trained in afghanistan and only left because they were chased out. they no longer have safe haven here in afghanistan and have very little support.
we are not losing. it's not easy and it will take time. there's alot of good things happening.
i know you dems just can't stand the thought of good news.
as far as finding osama, i don't think you realize how vast and forboding the hindu kush mountains and the area along the afghan/pakistan border really is.
it is thousands of square miles of rugged, unmapped mountains that are inaccesable for half of the year because of deep snow. many of the peaks are well over 20,000 ft.
you couldn't find him with a 10,000,000 man army if he didn't want to be found.
if you have google earth, zoom into the area and check it out.
afghan hospitality is legendary, and dishonering a guest, even if that guest is your enemy, is considered a grave dishoner.
they are not against us. the taliban are in deep trouble. a cornered animal always fights the hardest.
the only way we can lose is to give up.
what you fail to realize is many people have been fighting this war for over 30 years.
the taliban never completely controlled the country, and saddam had to attempt extermination of anyone group who opposed him.
only the no fly zones we enforced kept him from doing just that. the kurds were never truely subdued.
this has been going on since long before bush ever became president.
what would Clinton or Carter have done had they been faced with 911?
be nice to them and maybe they will go away?
if is really as stupid as you claim, what does that say for the dems to be fooled that easily?
al qaeda, and the various groups fighting in iraq and afghanistan are not a bunch of primitive animals. many are college educated. they have studied history. they know the U.S. has lost it's will to stick out a tough fight, and that our promises only last until the next election.

Dr. North
Dr. North opined--"How does one fight a war on terror by attacking a country that never did anything to you?"

Really? It's safe to assume your doctorate isn't in history, correct?

I only need two reasons
Not to trust the republicans:

G.W. Bush
Dick Cheney

so,
so, kimberly and jableson, if you were face to face with and iraqi orphan or widow, could you look them in the eyes and tell them "sorry, you are on your own"
do you hate Bush so much that you would have no problem abandoning them to a life of murder and poverty just to spite the president?
they were being killed, tortured and imprisoned long before we ever showed up.
you can talk a good talk, but what you do if you had to make the decisions?

KGK: They already heard it...
you said of this bs propaganda piece by Mr. Hawkins:

"The American voter needs to hear this well thought out and presented set of facts to realize what jeopardy we face. kgk.townhall.com"

They heard these same right wing talking points at midterms by repub/con politicians and they were soundly rejected with dems taking over control of congress.

Oh and you confuse opinion with facts.

Liberty
I agree with you about the present crop of republicans. However, they are JUST JOINING the Dems on their already 50 year long march towards socialism. Its a shame, there is no turning back. People are selfish. They are going to vote for folks that promise them the world, NOT CARING WHAT IT DOES TO THE COUNTRY or the Constitution upon which it is founded upon.

trust?
would you trust your daughter or wife alone with Bill Clinton?
how could you trust the judgement of a man who put his own sexual gratification before his respect for the institution of the presidency?
or maybe Hillary has you on her Christmas Card list.

Lynne
Thanks and you are right on the money.

Moonbat Exterminator writes
"LGM -YGBSM Carter a moralist? He may have been a moral person, but his `great malaise' vision of America made any real man (or woman) want to puke." -- This is exactly the point I wanted to make. Carter was asking Americans to stop whining and make an effort to be good strong people. Our patriotic right reacted by hurling their remotes in his direction. Lesson learned: you don't get elected by appealing to the best in people.

"Anatomical Shortages, Vertabrae and testes. Or at least the behavior of those who have them." -- Conservative bloggers consider themselves less vulgar than liberals. I think they merely are vulgar in different ways. I wouldn't want someone in my house talking this way with kids around.

For MountainRose
Unfortunately, they're NOT confused.

Anyone who is patriotic for "Sovereign America" is enemy to Pelosi-Kennedy-Murtha donkey-crats.

Reasons why a democrat president can't
I've read all the rhetoric on the war, I believe we should take the politics out of it and take what needs to be done to win it - PERIOD. SUPPORT THE TROOPS AND QUIT MALIGNING THEM FOR FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOMS AND THE FREEDOMS OF THE IRAQI PEOPLE. I feel our main concern right now should be on illegals coming into our country and our government wanting to give them all our civil rights. I SAY DEPORT ALL OF THEM NO MATTER WHAT THEIR NATIONALITY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO IMPEACH OR TRY ANYONE IN OUR GOVERNMENT WHO IS NOT DEFENDING THEIR OATH OF OFFICE. I WOULD SAY 85% OF OUR GOVERNMENT IS TREASONOUS AND SHOULD BE PUT OUT OF OFFICE - THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT AMERICA OR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

moondoggy
moondoggy writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 11:44 AM
so,
so, kimberly and jableson, if you were face to face with and iraqi orphan or widow, could you look them in the eyes and tell them "sorry, you are on your own"
do you hate Bush so much that you would have no problem abandoning them to a life of murder and poverty just to spite the president?
they were being killed, tortured and imprisoned long before we ever showed up.
you can talk a good talk, but what you do if you had to make the decisions?
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For the four years of the War, this president has not accomplished anything else besides destabilizing the Middle East.

Surely, it is not hard to understand that people have no faith in the president or his “surge.”

Lynne
Lynne writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 11:48 AM
Liberty & Eagleone

"A potential terror strike that can take out a city or us slowly succumbing to the dems scraping of the Constitution in-leu of their social engineering ideas and drive towards socialism."
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Have you been watching the news? Well, sorry, reading the news?

Bush and Cheney have attacked our Constitution viciously since taking office. They show a complete disdain for our system of government. The whole concept of the “unitary” executive is grossly out of place with our government, but eerily similar to dictatorship.

I think your concerns are misplaced.

Lynne
Lynne writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 11:48 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry. I just finished reading your post.
You are out there. You have scared yourself into a little corner. The terrorist are coming the terrorist are coming- Bush and Cheney can do what ever they want to protect me.

Great thinking.

I guess the national security reports telling us this war in Iraq is making us less safe is just spin from the 16 security agencies. Bush and Cheney hold all the truth- even without a means to get good information.

Wake up- your being fooled.

damcon1sw
What you wrote about the military reading these posts needs to be frequently posted on every thread.
Some of these Democrats here read like a Tokyo Rose broadcast. I keep expecting one to end his post with something like "Those 4F draft dodgers back in America are making good money in those defence factories and ballin' your wives and sweethearts"

_______________________________
Hawkins did a good job on this article.
Nine points that needed sunlight.

phxvet
phxvet writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:17 PM
Ben
"Eerily similar to a dictatorship?" Now that's funny right there I don't care who you are. Watch out, the black ops helo's are circling..
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Executive order declaring we will never have the right to review the documents of this administration- secret government and democracy don’t mix. (Signed prior to 9-11)

Prevented from knowing who attended meeting with Cheney – secret government (prior to 9-11)

Tracking all emails- without warrant

Listening to all calls- without warrant

Locking up anyone the president wants- without trial or rights to lawyers

Lying about reasons to attack other nations



None of this resembles the America I grew up in. But go ahead- I'll wait until the 2008 elections to hear you screaming about it, when it's a Dem in the White House.

Then, maybe, you will see the flaws in these actions.



Ben
Bush and Cheney have attacked the Constitution? How, exactly? I hear that come from liberals all the time and they never take the time to explain how. The best they ever come up with is the wiretapping issue. Of course if it actually happened the way liberals say it did -- with the NSA listening in on YOUR phone when YOU call out for pizza -- then you might be right. But considering that they are targeting only international calls, and only those to or from numbers gotten from captured terrorists, I hesitate to call that a gross violation of the Constitution. Or maybe you are referring to the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay? Considering that the residents there are being treated as POWs (even though, as illegal combatants -- civilians fighting in a military conflict -- they technically aren't and aren't entitled to the same protections) and POWs are expected to be held until the conclusion of hostilities so they don't continue to harm our troops, we have to put them somewhere. Would you rather we simply summarily executed every suspected bad guy we capture?

So what abuses of power have we seen out of this administration?

MyOpine
MyOpine writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:24 PM
damcon1sw
What you wrote about the military reading these posts needs to be frequently posted on every thread.
Some of these Democrats here read like a Tokyo Rose broadcast. I keep expecting one to end his post with something like "Those 4F draft dodgers back in America are making good money in those defence factories and ballin' your wives and sweethearts"

_______________________________
Hawkins did a good job on this article.
Nine points that needed sunlight.



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MyOpine, you support for the troops has changed since last night.

Don't you ever get tired using the troops to hide behind? Debate about the policy of this war and the real War on Terror is supporting the troops. Using the troops to silence the debate does nothing to support them and only sets us up for further failures.

Bush has failed. That is the bottom line. He continues to refuse to listen to experts. He is surrounded by Neo-conservative idiots that have no clue what they are doing- and that becomes more obvious each day.

A major shift in policy is needed to win, not only in Iraq, but in the real War on Terror. The war that Bush has forgotten about is falling into chaos. The Taliban are regrouping and growing in strength.

We need new leadership to win.

Ben
I know that you are trying to be fair and managnomous in your arguements, thanks for that. But please, I think your perception of a US dictorship is sorely colored with your political ideals. "Complete Disdain" is probably more accurately defined as over zealous executive privelege by a COC during a time of war. And whether Carter, or Regan, or Bush Sr, or Clinton knew it, they were at war with radical islam. It really started after Allies powers divvied up Europe and ME following WWII. They knew back then that the next major threat to world peace was coming from the ME.

And the overused phrase that we are making us less safe....comon. I think that it is more accurate to say that we now understand just how unsafe we are.

Jabelson
Jabelson writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:39 PM

Clinton knew about the threats from terrorists
during his 8 years in office. His problem was that he surrounded himself with lawyers like Sandy Burglar. So he treated the terrorist problem as if it were a criminal problem.
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Not to mention that at every turn the Republicans used his actions against the terrorist as propaganda for the impeachment. Wag the tail or the dog or whatever the saying is; the Republicans got every shred of intel that Clinton did. They used it for a power struggle rather to to protect the country.

Now, they want to yell and cry Clinton did nothing, but ignore that the entire eight years the wolves were hounding every lie and rumor to ‘bring down their man.’ It is just disgusting how they behaved then and now.

Ben
I do not hide behind troops or anything else.
Asking you to support American troops and their mission is not hiding behind them.
My position has not changed from last night or any other night. All I ask you to do is stop trashing the mission in Iraq, get back on your meds and stop acting like Jocelyn Elders.

Perhaps I was a little too polite last night?
A few more of your arrogant bellecose remarks to me will change that.

Happy Jake
Happy Jake writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:40 PM
Ben
Bush and Cheney have attacked the Constitution? How, exactly? I hear that come from liberals all the time and they never take the time to explain how. The best they ever come up with is the wiretapping issue. Of course if it actually happened the way liberals say it did -- with the NSA listening in on YOUR phone when YOU call out for pizza -- then you might be right. But considering that they are targeting only international calls, and only those to or from numbers gotten from captured terrorists, I hesitate to call that a gross violation of the Constitution. Or maybe you are referring to the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay? Considering that the residents there are being treated as POWs (even though, as illegal combatants -- civilians fighting in a military conflict -- they technically aren't and aren't entitled to the same protections) and POWs are expected to be held until the conclusion of hostilities so they don't continue to harm our troops, we have to put them somewhere. Would you rather we simply summarily executed every suspected bad guy we capture?

So what abuses of power have we seen out of this administration?
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One example: listening to americans without warrants.

Another: Tracking every email without warrants.

Antoher: Doing searches on any American, without ever disclosing to that individual that it occured.

Another: Going into business and taking my information and making it a crime for the business to speak aobut it.

Happy Jake
And, on the wire tapping issue:

What makes you think they are only, "are targeting only international calls."

It was exposed some time ago that is not true. Just like the email situation. All, every, no limits.

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Another point about the wire tapping:

What was the stated necessity to ignore the FSA courts? To give the secret service speed and agility to track down terrorist.

But, that cannot be reconciled when you give it serous thought. The only thing they did was to prevent oversight. Under the FSA court rules, the agents could already act, and then come back for the warrant.

So, how is speed and agility gained by not making them come back after the fact for review by the courts? Nothing for the War on Terror, everything for corrupt politicians.

Lynne
Lynne writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:47 PM
Ah-ha! Not one has addressed
those questions yet....

Ben is busy diverting and going off on a tangent and name calling... (surprise!)

Just two straight forward questions:

"Death to America"
1. What do you think the radical Islamis mean?
2. What do you think the radical Islamis intention are?
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My dear, what name have I called?

Lynne
Lynne writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:47 PM
Ah-ha! Not one has addressed
those questions yet....

Ben is busy diverting and going off on a tangent and name calling... (surprise!)

Just two straight forward questions:

"Death to America"
1. What do you think the radical Islamis mean?
2. What do you think the radical Islamis intention are?
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I don’t' see your point. I see what you think you mean.

But you are making one hell of an assumption thinking the Democrats are not concerned about Terrorist.

I remind you: Bush has allowed Bin Ladin to remain free.

The war in Iraq is separate from the War on Terror. Bush is failing miserably in Iraq and we need new leadership if we want to win the real war against the real terrorist.

All bush is doing is draining our ability to defend ourselves.

Our treasury is running dry. Our military readiness is the poorest is has been in years, decades.

If we don’t change course soon, those terrorist will make it back here.

Like the last NSI estimate claimed, the Iraq war is creating terrorist and making us less safe. Eventually, one of those new terrorist will make it across our boarders.

moonbats
John Hawkins can get them riled up like few others. Truth hurts.

Happy Jake
This administration has abused its power in numerous ways. You correctly cite FISA (which also involved domestic calls), which is remarkable by itself because Bush completely disregarded the laws in place to obtain warrants.

There is also the unprecedented number of signing statements. These acts infringe on the legislative branch by the judiciary. Remember, the legislative branch passes laws and the courts interpret the laws. Bush says thanks for the law, but I am not going to follow it.

There is the elimination of habeus corpus for enemy combatants - Bush decides who is an enemy combatant

Bush claims entitlement to read first class mail without a warrant

Bush claims the right to torture and renders people.

Cheney outed a CIA agent working on counter-proliferation efforts (including Iran) because her husband disagreed with his propoganda in the run up to war. It has yet to be seen whether Bush was involved. Talk about abuse. He will likely be indicted before the end of his term.

Do you need more?

Eagleone
Eagleone writes: Friday, February, 23, 2007 12:48 PM
Ben
I know that you are trying to be fair and managnomous in your arguements, thanks for that. But please, I think your perception of a US dictorship is sorely colored with your political ideals. "Complete Disdain" is probably more accurately defined as over zealous executive privelege by a COC during a time of war. And whether Carter, or Regan, or Bush Sr, or Clinton knew it, they were at war with radical islam. It really started after Allies powers divvied up Europe and ME following WWII. They knew back then that the next major threat to world peace was coming from the ME.

And the overused phrase that we are making us less safe....comon. I think that it is more accurate to say that we now