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Friday, April 17, 2009
John Armor :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Myth of Public Airways
by John Armor
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People who don’t know much about freedom of the press (or don’t care much about it) often say that the government has a right to regulate the content of broadcast media because "the public owns the airways." If that were true, the government would have a right to censor your personal phone calls and e-mails.

Let’s take this a step at a time. The Radio Act of 1927 and all of its legal descendents to the Federal Communications Commission’s laws and regulations today have one consistent aspect. All these laws allow the government to control what frequencies are issued, who uses them, and at what power level they are used.

The point of these laws is obvious. For radio, and later TV, to be able to function effectively, the stations cannot step on each other’s frequencies.

The Supreme Court last spoke on the subject of censorship of broadcast media in the Red Lion case in 1969. The Court then upheld the Fairness Doctrine, but did so on the basis that the broadcast media were "scarce" compared to the print media.

At that time there were slightly more than 4,000 daily newspapers but about one quarter as many radio and TV stations. Since then those numbers have more than reversed. Daily newspapers have died off to about 2,000 and radio and TV stations now well exceed 10,000. Even the most casual observer should be able to see that the basis for the Supreme Court’s decision in Red Lion has disappeared.

It must be asked, “What makes something public?” when discussing what constitutes the “public airways.” Are roads and highways public – and city sidewalks, as well? Note that the most ardent proponents of media censorship don’t go so far as to claim a right to censor the print media. Yet newspapers deliver their wares by trucks that travel on public highways to boxes that sit on public sidewalks.

And thanks to advances in technology, today the vast majority of all communications are, at some point, electronic. Even USA Today, the largest national newspaper, is entirely electronic when it is sent from its headquarters in Virginia to its six printing plants around the nation. Seeing how this means of communications depends so heavily upon the use of public infrastructure, should the government have a say in what USA Today prints on its pages? Or who owns the newspaper?

How about cell phone communications? Some of them contact with satellites in stationary orbit over twenty-two thousand miles above the Earth. But most connect by public airways to surface towers. Likewise, almost all forms of Internet access use public airways to communicate at some point in their routing. Every time phone calls or Internet communications cross into the public airways, they do so on federally assigned frequencies to avoid interference and failures. But they’re still using public airways.

Some arguments in the law fail because when they are thought through, they become not only absurd but dangerous. So it is with the public airways argument. Today, the vast majority of all communications by all 300 million private citizens in the United States utilize the public airways.

Those concerned about what is flying through the public airways could learn a lesson from NASA. It regulates the geosynchronous satellites that carry TV, telephone, and Internet communications - but it only regulates the placement of those billion-dollar satellites and their frequencies. NASA makes no attempt to regulate the content of any of the communications facilitated by those satellites.

The obvious necessity for the government to control technical matters does not justify interfering in content. However, the FCC is making noises about running in that very direction by proposing new broadcast content controls through "diversity" and "localism." Right now, America is experiencing a wave of taxpayer tea parties and it may not be long before we will see citizen uprisings over government threats to censor our airwaves and Internet, as well.

When the First Amendment was written, ink on paper was the only known form of mass communication. But the English language has since recognized that "press" means all forms of mass communications. The courts and certain members of Congress need to catch up to that reality.

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John Armor practiced First Amendment law in the US Supreme Court for 33 years and wrote this article at the behest of the American Civil Rights Union.
 
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Cuba
I beginning to realize that the US is on the road to being just like Cuba. We should have no problem having warm sincere conversations with them.

I wonder how some folks in Miami..never mind. I'm sure it's split 50/50.

Now the US national media has a buddy on the island. They both support the leaders til death do us part.

Public interest is the priority
Just who are "the most ardent proponents of media censorship"? Answer, there aren't any. No one is proposing to censor radio and TV broadcasts. It's some myth you create in order to stir up the base.

More pertinent is the need to support efforts demanding "diversity" and "localism." Regardless of the proliferation of broadcast outlets, each market is still limited and the public airwaves STILL belong to the public.

The power of a few corporations to saturate the airwaves with right-wing propaganda in no way serves the public interest.

Royinoslo - "Public Interest"
The content-free phrase "Public Interest" provides a convenient cover for control freaks to extend governmental power into domains it has no business invading.

"Diversity" and "localism" are similarly empty vessels which any speaker fill with contents suited to the political end sought. With tens of thousands of electromagnetic broadcast sources, millions of Internet sources, any argument about scarcity collapses with with the weight of its absurdity.

The cooperation required to allow use of the spectrum with minimal mutual interference can easily be handled by standards bodies that already exist. The *only* role that a government has is in securing spectrum allocation for carrying out its proper role in national defense. The FCC is a dinosaur spawned by power-hungry politicians.

The "public" didn't invent the electromagnetic spectrum, nor does government have any business regulating content. James Clerk Maxwell discovered it by virtue of his theory, Heinrich Hertz first observed it, Marconi first harnessed it, and the government had zip, zilch, nada to do with it.

Freedom is inconvenient, but not nearly as
inconvenient as an overbearing government telling people what they can say, when they can say it, how they can say it, ad tyrannum.

v/r,

-- Bud

In a rational world ...
The Supreme Court would issue an interpretation of the Amendment I that would say "freedom of the press" means the "publication or transmission of 'speech'", where 'speech' is understood in its Constitutional context.


Royinoslo, use your brain.
Mass media, including radio, always has two types of customers, listeners and advertisers. What you're suggesting is that there is some right-wing dominance over radio, but it simply doesn't exist. Conservative news/talk formats can be found usually on only one station per market and multiple advertisers continue to fund every program. No one is forcing you to listen to conservative stations, just like no one forces me to watch the sorry, rotten attempts at journalism by the neanderthal news media. No one shut down liberal news/talk stations. They simply had no listeners and attracted no advertisers (why should they? The neanderthals already cater to them, and who owns them but major Wall Street Corporations in bed with Washington, D.C.). The liberal answer to the problem of the free-market solution is to "stir up their base" by suggesting that this a some sort of monopoly when they are the ones being propped up by major Wall Street conglomerates like Disney & General Electric. What do they know about 'public interest.' They only care about their own interests: money, sex & power.

You must be stupid, stupid, stupid to believe such a redundant, ridiculous, and absurd lie that could only be perpetuated by the shameless, hypocritical left-wing pseudo-intellectuals and their stooge politicians. It just goes to show that you, along with every other liberal, know nothing about fairness, public interest, or free-market economics. Quit acting like you do. You should stop posting your useless comments on this website and go find a website where someone actually cares about your willfully ignorant, and incorrect opinion.

Bud
Well said. The public doesn't own the airwaves, but does have the right to use them. The government doesn't own the airwaves, either, but does have a duty to make sure that Citizen A's broadcast doesn't jam Citizen B's in the same band and doesn't interfere with Citizen C's phone call in a distant part of the EM spectrum.

It's odd that some of the same zealots who find a First Amendment protection for "freedom of expression" -- usually pornography or flag-burning -- see nothing in the text to cover broadcasting that offends them. If private-sector broadcasting must have its ownership, programming, and opinion forbily diversified for the public good, why not public-sector broadcasting. Isn't government control of NPR and PBS the antithesis of diversity? And why should newspapers, magazines, and book publishers (including the GPO) be exempt from standards applied to broadcasters?

royinoslo
There is no "public interest" clause in the Constitution. You appear desirous of laying aside the rule of law to benefit a your particular view. The FCC itself is a Constitutional violation as it never went through the amendment process. And let me just stop anyone right now from saying "commerce clause", as the commerce clause applies to the states and not private citizens.
I have to wonder about people like you roy who create these supposed aspects of the Federal government that are nowhere to be found in the Constitution. Is it just ignorance, or are you attempting deception?

JUST PROTEST !!
Protest that the media (regardless of how low are their ratings) molded a political action into an obscenity-AND explained it…”TEA BAGGING “

Have a good Day...FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FCC… Janet Jackson cost CBS $550,000 for ONE occurrence … http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgb/fcc475B.cfm … File FCC Form 475B - Obscene, Profane, and/or Indecent Broadcast Complaints

Bud
Please think on this. you said...In a rational world ...
The Supreme Court would issue an interpretation of the Amendment I that would say "freedom of the press" means the "publication or transmission of 'speech'", where 'speech' is understood in its Constitutional context.
However the framers of the Constitution actually took care to make distinctions between differnet forms of communication.."freedom of speech,..freedom of the press. Nothing in there about freedom of expression or the like. This doesn't give room for the Supreme Court to make any interpretation, but rather, without anything being added to the Constitution says they have no authority to decide on it one way or another.
Is an agency like the FCC called for? Yes, but only as stated earlier, to ensure that one station does not step on another stations toes. Until then all legislation from Congress is null and void as the authority for this has never been granted. The fact that the Constitution says all powers not granted to the Federal government belong to the states or the people make it clear that power is not something that can be assumed, but only granted, and that now only through the amendment process.

Man'selle
I have up the FCC site and you have to have the date, time, network, city and state, and name of program and state exactly what was said.

I never watch either CNN of MSNBC, I have only seen these on youtube.

If you will give me the info on Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow (anyone else?), I will be glad to find out the time and station for San Antonio and file reports.

17% of the US adult population
Listens to internet radio, learn more here:

http://www.freepress.net/

This site is worth bookmarking and visiting often.

Freedom of the Press
. . . only means that you can print what you want one sheet at a time on a hand operated press just like Franklin used. Obviously, the founding fathers never foresaw electronic media like radio and internet, so obviously they aren't covered. Thank goodness we have an up to date government that will protect us from lying abuses of freedom to operate a hand press!

As I understand it, that's basically the liberal argument, isn't it? And this argument works just as well for the Second Amendment and all the others. O Brave New World!

Lenard -
No disagreement with your position. As you undoubtedly know, the logical consequence of the position you put forth, with which I agree, will invalidate something like 90% of the mechanisms and legalisms the comprise the Federal Government.

Voila! Budget problem solved in one fell swoop .. talk about an idea whose time is always right! It would be fascinating to see unemployed bureaucrats finding honest work ....

Bud@3:52 PM EST
"James Clerk Maxwell discovered it by virtue of his theory, Heinrich Hertz first observed it, Marconi first harnessed it, and the government had zip, zilch, nada to do with it."

Nikola Tesla's patent predated Marconi's by three years. Marconi's initial patent applications were actually rejected by the patent office due to Tesla's patents. The Patent office reversed their ruling (for unknown reasons), and Marconi won the Nobel Prize in 1911--by using over a dozen of Tesla's patents in his device.

However, in 1943 the SC upheld the original patents. Tesla developed the radio, or in your words, "harnessed" it.

Tesla, a true GIANT in the early development of the electro-magnetic spectrum. See http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_whoradio.html

Can I sell my share?
If the public owns the airwaves, I'd like to sell my share. What am I offered?

And if I can't sell my share of the public airwaves, then they don't really belong to the public, do they?

Bud@3:52 PM EST: forgot to mention.
BTW, I was not delving into the political issues of this blog--that was not my purpose.

I was just giving credit where credit is due relating to the discovery of the radio.

;-)

duh
First of all,the public doesn't own the airwaves.Anyone with a powerful enough transmitter can broadcast using band switching and wave forming techniques. Foreign countries have known this for years. So this is really nothing but nonsense

Abolish The FCC PERIOD!
I have always been calling for the abolishment of the FCC for years for many reasons. Mainly, I hate it when the decency police cry foul and run to their mommy and daddy commisioners at the FCC when someone utters a swear word on television. I want to be able to listen to Howard Stern freely without having to pay a fee to listen on private sattellite radio. I want to be able to hear all the dirty jokes as nature intended without some preening ninny prying his nose over my shoulder. That's the main reason I want the FCC to be abolished once and for all. And if that prevents a Radio Tax or the Fairness Doctrine from being brought back, then it's a convenient consequence for all Americans.

Bravo
Bud and Lenard, superb posts! Thank you.

AH in MI, your comments on Tesla are spot on. I truly believe Tesla to be the most underrated scientist/inventor in the histroy of mankind. Edison also owes most of his fame to this man.

Instead of fighting against the so-called Fairness Doctrine, maybe conservatives should argue that newspapers and television also be included - the entire issue would quickly go away.

Trust the people, not just mega-media
Sorry to disabuse ya'll, but the public does own the airwaves, as long as licenses are required to broadcast on am and fm radio--the areas of my concern. If you want to claim the Constitution doesn't address this--fine, take the FCC to court. Otherwise, the airwaves are public and licensees are duty bound to broadcast in the public interest.

Of course, how "public interest" is defined will vary over time, but the best way to determine its definition is democratically, warts and all. The alternative is to allow private capital as the arbitors of how all information is diseminated to the public on the am and fm bands.That's a prescription for abuse of the public interest-- great power in the hands of people who are accountable to no one.

The FCC is far from perfect, that's the kind of system we have. But at least there is a system of accountability in place to protect the public from the abuses of the mega-media conglomerates.

In earlier times media ownership was stricter than it is now. Who can say that radio today is better than it was 40 years ago?

Lenard -
No disagreement with your position. As you undoubtedly know, the logical consequence of the position you put forth, with which I agree, will invalidate something like 90% of the mechanisms and legalisms the comprise the Federal Government.

Voila! Budget problem solved in one fell swoop .. talk about an idea whose time is always right! It would be fascinating to see unemployed bureaucrats finding honest work ....

The narcissism of control
The only reason gov't wishes to regulate and control is narcissistic - gov't thinks it knows better what, how, when, who, where its people should experience the world around them.

No one has the knowledge or authority(unless taken by force) to know for another human being what is offensive, insulting, unsuitable, inappropriate, et.al. when it comes to attempts at moralizing and forcing subjective values upon citizens.

The discourse occurs when either party wants to force their moral principles on everyone instead of allowing personal freedom and free choice for each to research & decide for self what is desired in a free market, where dollars will be spent and moments in life placed listening, reading, participating in the vast array of choices our societal development continues to offer.

Let each care for self and all will be cared for

Let each decide for self and the business minded will be your own

"great power in the hands of people..."
"great power in the hands of people who are accountable to no one."

You mean like Judges?
You mean like unelected bureaucrats?
You mean like federal union employees?
You mean like IRS agents...?

Just how far does the 'government ownership' of radio waves extend? Does the spectrum begin at the center of the US ?
Does the US government own from the waters edge to waters edge?
If the US government 'owns' the radio waves how did they get title to them? Did God sell them these waves? Did the Native Americans sell them? Did the US govt. just name it and claim it? Does the US government own the waves all the way around the world? Who owns the waves over the ocean? Can I buy them? Who do I talk to?
Aren't the emperors clothes beautiful?

Happy now?

AH in MI
Tesla's contributions were important, but let's not forget Reginald A. Fessenden, who discovered the heterodyine principle at the heart of modern broadcasting and devised means of sending audio over the air while Marconi was still struggling with dots and dashes.

royinoslo
You make an interesting point, but not one I think you recognize: when you say the public owns the airwaves because you need a license to broadcast, you really say, "That Catch-22, it's some catch." To which the correct reply is, "It's the best catch there is." And what is Catch-22?

The government can do anything you can't stop them from doing. That Joseph Heller, he was mostly insane, but he got the title of the book right anyway.

When the Government
Starts using loud speakers to broadcast their propaganda in every 'air space' in the country so that we have no alternative but to hear we have a problem.

As long as WE THE PEOPLE have an OFF switch on our radios and TV, there is NO SUCH THING as the "public airwaves"

when the law was first passed
There was a rationale for it. Transmitters were inefficient, basically transmitting all frequencies from DC to light. Public ownership doctrine was based on a perceived shortage of bandwidth. Thee also was a great deal of interest of government entities such as the Navy to control bandwidth, so the doctrine was convenient for them as well. Today we have learned to better utilize bandwidth, such that the rationale for public ownership has been mooted. There may be a few frequencies which are particularly valuable, but I think that is a small percentage of the spectrum. If you look at the most innovative uses of bandwidth, such as Wifi, it is done without any licensing.

Icedog is Right
Icedog is right on. Plus, the government is a major funder of universities and public schools. If the Fairness doctrine applied there, there would be massive job openings for conservatives to even out the liberal:conservative imbalance. And why is there no interest in having conservatives anchor the major network news programs or opinion programs? Why is George Stephanopolis given a show, but not Ari Fleisher or Dana Perino? True Fairness Doctrine applied to the networks would mandate that half of the viewpoints on the evening news and these programs come from conservatives. That The Fairness Doctrine or veiled alternatives such as localism or diversity are meant to silence consrvatives is evidenced by these policies only being applied to talk radio but not other news/opnion outlets that utilize public resources.

A good example of "public airways" abuse
is the successful lobbying by our large mass-media conglomerates which is keeping "low power FM radio stations" off the market. A number of years ago, a proposal was presented that would allow low-power FM stations to operate. These stations would broadcast local information and programming from a few blocks to a few miles on UNUSED frequencies. This proposal was successfully blocked by the "broadcast radio lobby".
So much for "freedom of speech".

What is the Public Interest?
Who is this public that Royinoslo is talking about?

It is puzzling
that liberals are even concerned about a fairness doctrine. As Obama so succinctly quipped, "I won" - they cannot claim that the proliferation of conservative talk radio programs is a viable threat (a sad comment on the intellect of the masses). It's not about fairness - it is about intolerance and censorship, pure and simple. And while the law and the Constitution invalidate their efforts, they won't let that stop them.

Re: Kuddos!!!!
This is correct but lets take the gloves off, look this left wing radical crap can't exist by itself because there is not enough of the people in this country who think so far left of that they hate America and the way the Const. is that they can't survive on their own!!! They can't seem to understand that there is a limit to how far to hate everything!!! I say they go and start their own country and leave this one alone and set their country up they way they want to and see who survives after 10 yrs!!! I bet you can't guess who will be left??? It really is a sickness that these people have, and it is pathetic that Americans believe that people like GlowBama and his Glowbots really think otherwise!!!

Allocating scarce resources
I am always interested in the comments that follow these essays and the issue is inevitably raised about the so-called "Public Interest." The commenter who raised this issue is "Royinoslo." I don't know if this person's name is Roy and that he's located in Oslo, but if so I can understand his position. Norway - in fact most of Europe - is socialist/collectivist to a high degree. But I thought that I would add my thoughts on this site.

There are essentially two ways of crating diversity of broadcast expression: The command and control way and the increase in resources way. Socialist and Leftists of various kinds believe that the pie is always finite so that one person’s piece is taken at the expense of another. That is what the argument for redistribution is based on.

For more: http://thevirginian.blogtownhall.com/

Censorship
This is all about censoring conservative free speech. The progressives don't go after MSM, TV, Or newspapers for one reason--their predominantly progressive.

But radio is the last comunication venue where conservatives can exercise their 1st Amendment rights. Thus, the progressives must shut it down. The progressives must prevent all decent to their progressive movement because they know that's the only way they can survive as a movement.

If the people are allowed to hear the truth, progressives are screwed and they know it.

We Are Coming Together via Obama-ism
We Won!
We are right!
You are wrong!
Don't think about it, just accept it!
Long live the old USA!

The SCOTUS decision is still in effect
Which means they could reimpose the "Fairness Doctrine" at any time, and it would be years, if ever, before the Supreme Court reheard the case. The main reason they are going to "localism" and "diversity" instead is that the old Fairness Doctrine would crimp the style of the liberals on TV too much. Instead they need to do something that is radio specific and does not apply to television.

And the government has an absolute right to change the ways it allocates broadcast frequencies and the power output of each station. This is what "public ownership of the airwaves" really means. Thus, the proposed "localism" and "diversity" rules are on much firmer constitutional ground.

Fairness Doctrine
As a staunch liberal I can safely say the Fairness Doctrine is a red herring and is not going anyplace. Its unconstitutional on its face. I'm not sure truth spills forth from talk radio but its certainly no worse than the pabulum that oozes from MSNBC. The few nitwits calling for the Fairness Doctrine will easily be shouted down.

royinoslo
Roy you appear to have an aversion to logic adn plain facts. I will repeat myself here, THERE IS NO "PUBLIC INTEREST" IN THE CONSTITUTION. Now you say go to the Supreme Court to resolve this. Roy you may be unaware of this but SCOTUS is composed of fallible people that are put in place by other fallible people, many of whom seek to ensure that justices will favor their unconstitutional acts. There is no mystical temple in the mountains where justices to be go to to become pure of heart and infallible in their decisions.
Take BCRA for example. The Constitution in the plainest language possible says "Congress shall make no law ..abridging the freedom of speech". Now no means no, and abridge means..lessen..shorten..deprive. Yet when SCOTUS decided on BCRA it brought into the argument things such as political corruption and "electioneering communications". Essentially they decided that the 1st amendment can be ignored to favor established politicians and news media. This is but one example of a Court that is not impartial and objective, but an extension of corrupt politicians using all means to continue in power.

sticks
You can do all of those things on your computer

"Public" and FCC myths
"Public" as royinoslo uses the term is merely a euphemism for "government." His arguments that corporations will insist on right-wing radio is a 1930's-style Marxist cliche. The vast majority of corporations out there are center-left. Fox is the only centrist corporate television network, but only appears right-wing compared to the strong leftward slant of all the other networks. Fox is cleaning the other cable networks clocks ratings-wise because the rest split the liberal audience, while Fox has the conservatives to itself. If one of the three major networks shifted to a center-right position, I have little doubt it would draw as many viewers as the other two combined.

There is no need for the FCC. The bandwidths could be sold to private bidders in a one-time auction. Government involvement would then cease as the owners would then have a property right in those bandwidths enforceable in court, and could sell them just as real estate is sold.

Thanks
Thanks for a well written and well reasoned opinion.

Tools of mega-media
Lenard, you seem to have no idea what the role of the Supreme Court is. Issues of constitutionality, they decide. That's it. 9 imperfect people. Since 1789. The bad with the good. You should read up on it.

People like you and Tacitus X have some intense distrust of democracy that I find fascinating, if repulsive. Unknowing tools for the corporate media conglomerates. If you have your way this country will be badly hurt and never, ever be the same.

I suspect, however, that John Armor knows what he is doing. Ain't that right, John?

The Forgotten Ninth
The Ninth Amendment says that we (as individuals) have all the rights not prohibited to us even if they were omitted when the founders tried to list some in the Bill of Rights. Nowhere did the Founders state that the government under the guise of the "public" could grab anything not nailed down.

What democracy?
I too have an intense distrust of democracy and prefer the republic which our founders established in Article 4, Section 4.

De-mob-ocracy forces sheep to vote against wolves on what to have for dinner. Once the wolves have bought, stolen, and fabricated a majority, they force other peoples' stuff into their pockets and/or force EVERYONE to march in lockstep with their vision of America.

"We won; do what we say."

Intent of Fairness Doctrine & Localism
The only reason for these concepts is to eliminate what one might call conservative talk completely from the airways. Once accomplished all talk radio will be left wing talk.

If driven, cons. talk radio
can move to cable and satellite which are not subject to either the FCC or any version of the Fairness Doctrine.

If the Big O cabal in DC does go about setting up *comissions* to regulate local radio, cons. should go out for those commissions and become members the way we can run for school board elections or town councils.

The only way to get the country back to grass roots is electing cons. at the local level so they can move into Cong. and Sen. candidacies.

I just saw a good movie State of Play but, of course, the Cong. is a Rep. (supposedly set in 2007--the Dems. took back Cong. in 2006 and no Rep. headed any committees after that)

and the bad guys are ex-vets.

There's been two movies castigating Nixon but NONE showing the hypocricies and idiocies of Johnson or Carter or Cliinton. Actually, there is a documentary on Lady Clinton that Hollywood powers are fighting to censor, but if it were that moron Michael Moore, the MSM would be crying rivers over the suppression of great art.

Tacitus X
You are exactly correct as well as right.

CBS has twice hired consultants to see what it could do about falling from third to fourth to fifth in nightly news and both times were advised to have slightly less leftists content. CBS brass evidently doesn't care that they are losing advertisers and worse, actually losing affiliates for the nightly news, and prefer to propagandize their leftist editorializing.

The dying newspapers and news mags could do the same and get off the liberal tiger that is riding them into bankruptcy, but none will do it. Mags. and newsis that were just a short time ago relatively moderate and slightly leftist have become more and more stridently ideological ever since Bush won in 2000.

Worse, they pretend they rep. center or *objective* positions, constantly pushing dialogue and the political life of America further left all of the time, producing a chronic anti-war, anti-veteran (Neapolitano and her *crazy right-wing extremist vets*), anti-cons., anti-religious, anti-traditional family, and anti-customs and practices of the US for literally centuries.

Their chronic distortions have produced Mr. Obama in the White House and a cabal of Chicago-thugs in DC that are making the US a joke nationally and internationally. I hope it doesn't take an a-bomb blowing up part of NYC or LA to turn things around, but it looks like that is what it will take.

rayinoslo and repulsion
All thoughtful people distrust democracy, which is why the Founders set our country up as a constitutional republic rather than a democracy. They knew that pure democracies become mob rule, collapse into anarchy, which sets the stage for a dictator to impose order.

The only moral basis for any government is individual rights. Two people cannot morally "vote away" the rights of a third person. Nothing is more "democratic" than a lynching or a gang rape. Nor is is moral for 200 million to vote away the rights of 100 milion.

It's no coincidence that the corporate media conglomerates are overwhelming center-left and inherently statist. The reason they get so large is because the tax system favors large conglomerates because they can write off losses in one area against gains in another. It is only because the government has the power to tax, regulate, and award subsidies that provides the incentive for large firms to hire lobbyists and pay out donations (bribes). Remove the incentive and the lobbyists and donations disappear overnight.

Statists finds civil liberty and limited government repulsive for the same reason roaches are repelled by sunlight.

FF on the side of progress
Tacitus X,

A republic, yes, with a Constitution as a tool to expand democratic rights and freedoms if we so choose. This country has made great strides -- with some setbacks -- since 1789 in growing a nation of free people. Only land-owning white men were allowed to vote. Who would want to go back to that?

The so-called Strict Constructionists imagine that a nation of 300 million people living in an industrialized modern world can go back to the exact model envisioned by a group of extremely clever Founding Fathers? I think the FF would laugh you out of the room.

Not a living document
Our government certainly needs to evolve to meet changing times. However, the methods authorized by the FF do not include a 5-4 vote by the DC Supremes.

rayinoslo not progressive
I'm all for maximizing individual rights, which is why I'm against expanding government power at the expense of individual rights.

Slavery and Jim Crow were GOVERNMENT, LEGAL institutions that violated individual rights, like most of rayinoslo's program. Most of the Founders were well aware of the inherent contradiction of slavery with their natural rights philosophy, but believed it was impossible at the time to form a Union with the feudal South if slavery were abolished.

No strict constructionist favors slavery, and it would be impossible for one to do so - by definition - because, inter alia, slavery was properly abolished through the constitutional amendment process, which is precisely what strict constructionists advocate, rather that by legislative or judicial fiat, which is akin to dictatorship.

The abolishment of slavery WAS the abolishment of the governmental institution of slavery, thus reducing government power in favor of individual rights. Thus, rayinoslo is "progressive" only in the sense that cancer is a progressive disease.

Jim Crow's an example
Slavery was indeed abolished by constititutional amendment after the Civil War. But the Jim Crow laws -- local and state laws through much of the South enforcing segregation -- were nullified by Civil Rights legislation of 1964 and 1965. That's right, those oppressive national legislators, democratically elected, did the right thing and ended legal segregation in this country.

Taxpayers Pay For Public Airwaves
The U.S. taxpayers are taxed by the government for public airwaves, but on June 12, 2009, the government is requiring all American citizens to pay for a black box and if they don't then they won't be able to access public airwaves by any other means and unable to watch public television by plugging in their TV sets as they've been able to do since television sets were available. So, where do the tax dollars end up after June 12, 2009 since we'll be paying for services not rendered. And, why should U.S. citizens have to be enslaved to private corporations called cable companies who will control the public airwaves and charge the public to pay them a fee every month or else they don't get to watch any TV. And, doesn't this violate the rights of the American people who don't want the services of cable corporations, but are still taxed. It's like having an imaginary gun to the heads of the American people and saying pay up or no TV. And, how did the cable corporations get the rights to own the public airwaves and who in the government approved the take over by cable corporations of the public airwaves? How can the government continue to tax people who don't have TV or anyone for public airwaves because some one in government granted private corporations the right to take over the public airwaves paid for by the taxpayers. So the citizens will be paying for public airwaves through taxes that they can't access and must pay up to the cable corporations or unable to plug in their TVs and unable to watch any public stations. And, what about the private cable corporations that will hold the American people hostage as far as watching TV and controlling the public airwaves who provide foreign language programming that you don't watch, don't want to watch, don't understand, but must pay for services you don't want just to watch a few English speaking programs?

Observation
I guess this makes the Democrat party the ruler of the air as well as the earth. Seems appropriate.

Technology and the Airwaves
To Rose, as much as I don't like government intervention The littlew black box is the result of technology not government interference. To give people the opportunity to watch all those channels on cable and to make all channels look so great on the new plasmas and lcd's you won't be able to use you old tv without a little help. That said I am more concerned with government interfering with the content of of those airways rather than the technology. The Fairness Dctrine,which is anything but, should be of greater concern because the government's trying to restrict what you hear and see.

Public usage
To many "public" means "governmental." This misidentification falls right into the lap of leftists and other wnnabe totalitarians. We all breathe air and drink water. since protection of the quality of the air and water is a public issue, then the "usage of public properties" includes all speech, since we use the air we breathe to speak. If the government has the right, even the obligation, to monitor and control the content of "public usage," then it must therefore monitor, even censor, speech, even the most private. But speech is protected in the Constitution. Don't let this let you breathe easy, because the illiberal leftists will find a way to say that the First Amendment right of Free Speech is subject to the government's right and obligation to regulate the "public usage" aspect of our speech if it is in the interests of the "public good." With that kind of reasoning, the entire Bill of Rights might as well have been written in sand.
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