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Saturday, February 14, 2009
Jerry Bowyer :: Townhall.com Columnist
Accounting for (Congressional) Dummies
by Jerry Bowyer
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This week, I watched, with amazement, Larry Kudlow’s joust with Congressman Brad Sherman about accounting. Sherman was fresh from his Stalinist show trial of bank CEOs. Having spent the afternoon berating the banks for having the audacity to pay a dividend to their beleaguered shareholders, Sherman went on to lecture Kudlow about the same topic. Larry pointed out that the money for the dividends didn’t come from TARP and so it is really none of congress’s business. Sherman said that, because dividends come from “capital,” that indeed it was taxpayer money.

Kudlow was right, and Sherman needs a little accounting refresher. Dividends are paid out of retained earnings, which is the accumulated net income of the business. They are not paid out of direct investment accounts such as preferred stock. The TARP money was in the form purchase of preferred stock, which is a completely separate account than retained earnings.

It’s actually even a little bit worse for his case: companies pay dividends out of the retained earnings account, which means even companies that don’t have any net earnings can pay dividends without touching TARP money, because retained earnings are the accumulated wealth of prior years of net income. If I lose money this year, but made money last year, and I pay a dividend this year, the money is not coming from preferred stock accounts, or common stock accounts, it’s coming from the net income of prior profitable years. Bank of America, for example, is sitting on over $70 billion in retained earnings, all available to distribute to the shareholders to whom it rightly belongs.

The bookkeeping entry is simply this: you credit the cash account, and you debit the retained earnings account – that’s it. No debit to the preferred stock holder account.

In other words, the dividends are paid with corporate earnings, just as they should be; not with TARP money.

Brad Sherman is not just a member of the House Financial Oversight Committee; he’s considered the resident expert on topics such as finance and accounting for the group. Nevertheless he was flat wrong on the core question in his debate with Kudlow. He confused different capital accounts with one another.

Is this not a little scary?

On the other hand, Sherman is a smart guy, he has a number of summa’s and magna’s attached to the various laude’s on his resume. Could he really have forgotten Accounting 101? Perhaps he really did know the truth, but was happy to fudge his answer, obscuring the truth, because the truth was simply not in his interest at that moment.

Is this not every more scary?

Whether mistaken or malicious, Sherman and his crew are severely harming shareholder capitalism. They are claiming control over the entire shareholder’s equity portion of the balance sheet based on the relatively small section into which they have placed their investment. They are asserting sovereignty over things to which they have no legitimate moral or legal claim.

All of this raises some fascinating questions, the timeliest of which is: How does a CEO answer questions about financial accounting when they’re asked by dimwits who don’t know enough to understand the answers? Honestly, I don’t know what I would do if I were in the CEO punishment seat being thumb-screwed by Barney Frank, or mau-maued by Maxine Waters. I hope that I’d confess to the truth which is something like:

“Congressperson, you’ve asked questions about matters of financial accounting, but have not taken even the slightest effort to familiarize yourself with the vocabulary or principles of this technical discipline. Do you know anything about double-entry bookkeeping? If I told you that a dividend payment is a debit to retained earnings and credit to the cash account, would you understand any of that? What was your major? Do you balance your own checkbook? Do you prepare your own tax return?”

Given the Stalinist show trial we saw this week -- all based on what appears to be a plain ignorance of a few simple accounting principles -- it would appear to be a public service to point out that the dividends, salaries, junkets and all the rest are done without a single deduction from the capital accounts into which the taxpayer funds were shoved.

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Larry
Thank you!

Sherman and
Ackermann, Water and others are hacks who play to the ignorant and the MSM. Note they are from California which should tell us something about their knowledge of budgeting and spending. They only get away with this crap because they are in congress and on TV they would never say these things man to man. They are onlyt worthy of our contempt and scorn.

Thanks for the well written piece.

No Representation in NorCal

I agree the dims are clueless
but I have to ask. If they've got retained earnings why do they need a bailout?

Retained Earnings Do Not Equal cash
The cash provided by TARP was intended to be put back into the US economy by making it available to consumers, not for paying dividends. If they had the cash to pay dividends then they should not have needed the TARP money. If they needed the TARP funds to keep operating, don't pay the dividends. It may have been a legal use of the funds but at a minimum it showed questionable judgment. Judgment lacking on both the financial industry and our Congress.

Irritated in Illinois


Why don't
more of these people these morons subject to their inquisitions and arrogance give it back to them. THEY are NOT their superiors, they are their employees, albeit crooked ones with their hands in OUR corporate till to the tune of trillions.
When o When will these people who are forced to sit LOWER than those pontificating morons as if they were peasants STAND up to them, cut them down instead of meekly taking their insults and
excrement. Those witnesses should be interrogating these thugs that caused the problems.

Here's what's strange
Here's what's strange
Congressional Republicans unanimously denounced the stimulus bill for any number of details that they selected out and then spun, they made long speeches about why it can't work and why it shouldn't pass.

Then, just before the final vote, they said they hadn't been given enough time to read it and railed against the injustice of passing a bill they weren't even familiar with.

Hello? Are we standing on the corners of cognitive and dissonance, by any chance?

What is really strange
is your inability to understand the concept that legislators ought to read bills before voting to pass them into law.

I don't understand why the republicans
are so upset about Obama's spending package (as they were about bailing out the auto-industry), but when it comes to the banking industry - no big problem.

This article is just another example, in this case defending these CEO's unethical behavior in giving bonuses to the very people who had botched their jobs. Using adjectives such as "stalinist" is just a cheap trick.

I'm no accountant, but it doesn't seem to difficult to imagine Tarp money being shifted from one fund to another (there is, after all, such a thing as a bottom line). It seems like it is best viewed as one big pot of money in this case, and thus taxpayers are bailing out a bunch of incompetent millionaires. But that's OK with you republicans:?

Dr. Douglas the Republican question
Perhaps Dr. Douglas, if you had not lived in the echo chamber of academics your entire life the answer to your question would be obvious.

Perhaps you should have sought out some diversity of opinion sooner. Truly, it is difficult to teach an old dog new tricks.

Especially in your case

Indie-Lou
The reason is obvious. The bill changed radically in conference committee from either the House or Senate version. Entire programs were added, many items were modified and some were changed significantly. It is not unusual at all that the Republicans would demand time to read 1,100 pages of a bill that came out of the house with "only" 670 pages. I hope this is clear.

Echo
So, just why give government bailouts if it’s only a case of the corporate money being in the wrong pocket? A few pennies per share aren’t going to make me (a shareholder) feel good about a stock that has lost 75% (or more) of its market value. I thought the main idea was returning the companies (and our economic system) to a healthy condition – and that required money. Why should it matter which pocket it comes from? Shouldn’t it come from a corporate pocket first?
More importantly, shouldn’t the CEO’s be focused on ridding their companies of implied government control ASAP?
Kudlow and Bowyer may be on ‘our’ team, but they are completely off base on this one!

Think green, Nickel

How many innocent trees died to make paper for the production of the Porkulus Package of ’09?

Alwys Remember
When dealing with the left side of the aisle one thing mush be remembered. A Dem will never let the facts get in the way of the party line and Congressman Sherman is no exception to the rule.

Also remember that they rely on the ignorance and inattentiveness of most of their voters to do and say what they do.

TARP

The banks should return the TARP money and tell Congress to go away.
Would it not be great to have these bankers question the members of the committee relating to their understanding of banking, accounting and financial transactions.
Would it be just great to have Barney, Chrissy Dodd and Barney's boyfriend (Fanny or Freddy) be grilled by these CEO's. In this case you would observe stupidity and ignorance by barney and friend and doddy.

Misleading article
Using *possible* facts to make a point doesn't make it ethically correct. If there are bad assets being covered by the preferred stock secured from our taxes, then the retained earnings are overstated.

If the bank has enough funds to cover bad assets and pay dividends, the bailout money should have been repaid first. Otherwise the money should be used for loans as the bailout money was intended. Any other use is ethically challenged.

Double entry accounting means nothing if there is an ethical lapse and secure assets are not in place to cover ALL capital accounts.

Accounting for (Congressional) Dummies
Question
Who needs the accounting lesson here?

All the accounting professors, like me, I know are just shaking their heads or are bent over in laughter at the Accounting 101 stupidity here.

To my knowledge there's no "Accumulated Retained Earnings Cash/Investment Account" on the asset side of these troubled banks that is reserved for dividends. Seems like some banks are robbing Peter (oops I meant to say TARP) to pay Paul a bit like Madoff paid his wife 15 million dollars just before he opened the door to guys holding out handcuffs.

Without TARP funds some banks couldn't meet the payroll let alone pay dividends and hefty executive bonuses. The Madoff Fund is not the only Ponzi game on Wall Street.

In truth the really ignorant people here, other than Jerry Bower, are members of Congress who did not place restrictions on how TARP money could be spent. I guess we can blame that one on their lousy teachers --- Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Hank Paulsen and Ben Bernanke

I suggest that they learn by playing The Bailout Game (its fun and educational) --- http://www.trinity.edu/rjensen/2008Bailout.htm#Revolution


Bob Jensen's threads on the bailout mess --- http://www.trinity.edu/rjensen/2008Bailout.htm
Essay

Introductory Quotations
The Bailout's Hidden, Albeit Noble, Agenda (for added details see Appendix Y)
A Step Back in History
Barney's Rubble
2009 Update on the Socialist Revolution Without Increased Taxes, Debt, or Civil War
Why Wasn't Your Diversified Investment Portfolio Safe?

TARP, Accounting and Congress
TARP funds can be returned if the banks raise stock in the marketplace; the banks cannot simply pay it back the way the current agreements are written. Any assets which are known to be bad are written down in the current period. They charge income with the expense for an allowance for bad debt or impairment of assets. This affects the net income of the period; if it results in a loss then there is a a resulting reduction in the retained earnings in the stockholders equity section of the balance sheet.
Funds/cash are NOT the same thing as earnings when you are using accrual accounting.
Banks are paying huge inteest payments fro the right to have the TARP money. BOA will be paying something like 2.4 billion in interest in 2009.
Kudlow and the Congressman can agrue what account you charge the dividends against; did it reduce the company's operating cash? Did it impair the company's ability tot operate? To kudlow's point,if you want to re-instill confidence in banking stocks and get government money out of them, you must make it attractive for them to put their money at risk, i.e. the knowledge that there will/may be dividends will draw me in. None? Then I will wait on the sidelines.
What a sham/shame to see Congressional fools sit there and castigate these CEOs, some of whom were there because they because they bought the problem children for the FDIC and Treasury (Countrywide, IndyMac, WaMu, Wachovia, Merrill). I was wishing one of the CEOs would ask for some accountablity on the $800 billion non-job-creating stimulus package. Turnabout is fair play.

Why go into crime
when you can join congress and rob the public and the other institutions? The voters returned the dimwitted Barney Frank and Chris Dodd - they get what they deserve but the rest of us don't deserve this. This is not a "stimulus" - this is grand theft larceny.

NOW WE KNOW

.....Now we know why Don Corleone wanted Michael to become a politician .....COLOSSUS

Dividends
The original theme of this discussion was "Dividends" AND DIVIDENDS ARE PAID TO SHAREHOLDERS AS A PERCENTAGE OF PROFIT ergo:
no profit = no dividend.

Dividends - again
"Bank of America, for example, is sitting on over $70 billion in retained earnings, all available to distribute to the shareholders to whom it rightly belongs."
O.K. I'll go along with this statement. Now I ask, why does BoA need a bailout? Can't this retained earnings be driven back into every day business activity??

Moe
"ergo: no profit = no dividend."

Not true when you have a Republican administration.

Republicans have too many quiet brands of socialism. They use phrases like, "We need to inject capital into the financial sector.(Hank Paulson)"
Sounds fancy, well hold onto your wallet.

Who is we? 'We' is the American taxpayer. What is capital? 'Capital is taxpayer's money. What is the financial sector? The 'financial sector' is certain Republican-donating banks.

Bush and Paulson had given their favorite banks $250 billion. What did those banks do with that money? All paid dividends to their precious stockholders. This is the most envious of government teat sucking of all. Wealth-redistribution in a time of war and financial meltdown is the most distasteful kind possible.

That Republican give-away takes money from Main Street and gives it to the banks' owners. George Bush and Hank Paulson certainly knew how to take care of their friends. In sum, it is yet another example of the ruthless expropriation of wealth from the American downtrodden toiling strata to those in the upper strata.

Unfortunately, for we conservatives, President Hussein put a stop to this most onerous form of Republican-socialist wealth-redistribution.



Conservatives, "Consider Nationalizing"
====

"Fiscal conservatives" have said that the U.S. Government should at least consider nationalizing the country's banking system as a means of moving beyond the current lending crisis.

"This idea of nationalizing banks is not comfortable," said Sen. Lindsey Graham. "But I think we've got so many toxic assets spread throughout the banking and financial community, throughout the world, that we're going to have to do something that no one ever envisioned a year ago, no one likes. To me, banking and housing are the root cause of this problem. I'm very much afraid any program to salvage the bank is going to require the government... I would not take off the idea of nationalizing the banks."

Rep. Peter King also says "nationalization" should remain on the table.

quote from:
ABC'S This Week

====


The Author Misses the Point...
...of Sherman's comment. Sherman, an ultra liberal Demo rep from the west San Fernando Valley, believe that capital is the taxpayer's business because capital belongs rightly to the federal government. He comes from that school who believes all good things cometh from the great God Government and that if one is able to accumulate capital, it is owing to the largesse and benevolence of the Federal government, without which there is no life in America's business.

It's a far more insidious and dangerous comment than this author comprehends. Sherman has not forgotten Acounting 101, he simply believes that accountancy is a tool whereby the government decides what of someone's capital belongs to it.

Read The Bills Act
There is a proposed Bill that downsizedc.org is trying to get introduced that would force Congress and the House to read each and every proposed Bill in length and in detail themselves and not their committee persons. This Bil if passed would make it a purjery offense for a politician to vote on the Bill prior to reading it themselves, and not allow them to use the excuse of "How did this ammendment get into there". Please ask all of your representatives to sponser and introduce this Bill it would be just one way of protecting our nation and our people from the ignorance of our Congresspeople from passing Bills that our nation don't need or want.

representatives
Hey if they had any brains they would be repubs.

Sec Paulson
Paulson is a democrat,

william
Hank Paulson is a card-carrying member of the Republican party. Below are his political contributions from,

http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/Henry_Pauls on.php


$336,250 Republican
_$13,990 Democrat
$311,300 special interest

total: $661,540

Rep. Sherman Needs An Accounting Refresh
When the TV lights and cameras are on, Mr. Bowyer, the Representative Sherman and the other Democrats don't care about truth or facts; they are putting on a show for their liberal base. It's all about nailing the "fat cats," to the wall in class war fare fashion.

Rep. Sherman is counting on Joe Lunch Box not knowing the difference between preferred stock, debits, credits and long term gains. The Congressman wants to be able to go back to his district and report that he stuck to Kudlow--the truth be damned.

Accountability
How about a Sarbanes-Oxley type of law that applies to Congress and all the state legislatures, forcing each lawmaker to sign a statement for every bill that they vote on, confirming that they have read and understood it?

Dividends, Junkets & taxpayer dollars
Bowyer, at the risk of forfeiting my GOP membership card I respectfully submit that while your accounting knowledge is right on target any "public corporation" pleading for and accepting "bailout" money from the Federal Government; i.e., unearned income out of your and my pocket; only deserves this kind of scrutiny over what was once the business of the Corporation and it's stockholders. What should you or they expect; business as usual?

I agree with your assessment of Congressional ignorance but the real culprit is the ignorance of the American electorate who put this Bozo, Obama, and his equally ignorant cohorts in office on the promise of "hope and change we can believe in" and to prove to the rest of the world that we've put racism behind us.

Can you feel the love and respect emanating from around the world?


A few questions, Mr. Bowyer
" The bookkeeping entry is simply this: you credit the cash account, and you debit the retained earnings account – that’s it. No debit to the preferred stock holder account.

In other words, the dividends are paid with corporate earnings, just as they should be; not with TARP money."

Yep, that's financial accounting at its most basic: credit cash and debit RE for the issuance of a dividend. Dividends, however, aren't paid with something allocated as Corporate Earnings Cash. You decrease retained earnings when dividends are paid, but who the heck knows the source of the cash. Retained earnings don't have to be held in the form of cash. How much cash did the bank in question have before the infusion of billions in taxpayer TARP money?

When you suck on the government teat, you have to answer to government idiots. The poor big bankers got a "Stalinist" show trial? Boo hoo. As I recall, you didn't have a problem with the treatment of the auto industry execs.

Bail out
Bottom line is if you are begging with your hand out you better not have a pocket full of money. To insist that the money used for dividends came from a different pocket is to wish to suspend common sense, they either had enough money to continue in business or they didnt, there is no seperate account that would make sense. This is not as complicated as you think, they either had money or they didnt.

Congressional Dummies.
Kudo's to you. Even though I do not conside my self an accountant, I did take Accounting 101, I balance my own checkbook and do my own taxes.

Sincerely
Dan W. Hensel PhD. M.E.

Begging with a pocketful of money
Do you guys realize that Paulsen twisted arms (particularly on Wells Fargo) in order to get some of these banks to take funds? Source:
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/10 /14/paulson-plan-unfair-to-healthy-banks.aspx

If you bunch of losers want to rewrite rules, let's rewrite Chris Dodd's sweetheart loan to make him pay the full interest rate? How about Obama paying full price for his land and Rezko's since Rezko's land is now totally unbuildable?

Btw, did Chris Dodd ever release the loan papers he claimed he would? No? Then where are the legendary watchdog media? Begging for table scraps?

hail to the chief
this nonsense has been going on for years. Politicians grilling CEO's,Athlete's, ETC, and they have no knowledge of what they hell they are investigating. Lary Kudlow is one smart guy, and was in Pres. Reagan's cabinet. Sherman picked the wrong guy to debate. Unfortunately, Town Hall is the only one exposing it. Good job.

The Good News.......
We have survived thus far because of demonicRAT ignorance of morality, economics, foreign affairs.

The Bad News: demonicRATs are getting closer and closer to the day when they will be able to openly say "steal the wealth" in their campaign ads.

A fascinating read
I have enjoyed this discussion so far. It has been humorous and, on occasion, even informative. Whether any of this was intentional or not, I cannot say.

As long as we remain fixated on which faction of the ruling class and its elected aristocracy are guilty (or more guilty) of exploiting the nation and the economy we deserve our thralldom. No faction in the ruling class is putting "our" interests ahead of their own. Why should they? We should be putting our interests first. But most Americans have given up on democracy. (A few still seem willing to talk the talk, but are they prepared to walk the walk?) Most of us here seem just to want to argue about which faction of the ruling class should be in charge of everyones' lives. Few so far seem willing to DO anything about the loss of our collective sovereignty.

At some point, of course, this will have to change. But the longer we wait, the bloodier the correction will have to be - because we have allowed so many special interests to deeply entrench themselves in the government while allowing the government to grow so large and powerful. And to be clear, those special interests range from the financial "barons" who have no problem using the wealth of others to prop up their bankrupt institutions, to "workers" who believe that the nation's wealth should be used to indefinitely sustain their unemployment.

It really has nothing to
to do with all of his degrees. It has to do with the hubris of the idiots in Congress, and society at large, being incapable of admitting they made mistake.

That Majority??
We are told by the left that our ideas no longer have merit because the last election proved they are now the majority. We must change our principles to match that of the majority.

Who is this majority. They fall into two groups, according to data of the Federal Elections Commission. They are uneducated, impoverished welfare recipients or liberal intellectuals. Let’s take a hard look at this majority before we join their ranks.

The ignorant free loaders are the Nadya Sulamans, and Henrietta Hughes and Julios, those two among the many beggars at Obama’s recent visit to Florida. These pathetic losers have completely surrendered their magnificence as human beings. They’ve voluntarily donned the yoke of slavery and bow to secular potentates for meager provisions. We know that they are all beneficiaries of government largesse. Ms. Hughes was found to have already been offered job training, but refused, content to live parasitically off the taxpayers. Julio appeared to be mentally defective and incoherent. He wants to be a journalist! Of course

The intellectuals have indeed spent some time in high education. They memorized much data and have clever slogans when debating. But they understand nothing, cannot synthesize the data they’ve absorbed, and must be guided by socialist puppet masters like Al Gore and George Soros. They can’t pour urine out of boots with instructions written on the heels.

This is not a majority that is worthy of anyone having pride and dignity and still desires to be free. These are people worthy only of contempt.

Personally, I’ll remain a minority of one before I join that mass of human rubbish. Go ahead, call me wrong.

Unfairness Doctrine
It’s been reported that Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow wants hearings on “accountability” in radio, suggesting Democrats are eyeing a return of the Fairness Doctrine.

What’s not been widely reported is that the Michigan lawmaker is married to a media executive with ties to left-wing radio.

During a recent interview with syndicated radio-host Bill Press, Stabenow said: “I think it’s absolutely time to pass a standard. Now, whether it’s called the 'fairness standard,' whether it’s called something else ? I absolutely think it’s time to be bringing accountability to the airwaves.”

She didn’t mention that her husband Tom Athans is the co-founder and former CEO of Democracy Radio, which supported “progressive” talk radio, and was executive vice president for programming at left-wing Air America.



9/11/2008 Financial Terrorist Attack
Rush has mentioned this and more is on AtlasShrugs, February 12,2009. Rep.Kanjorski dropped a bombshell that is getting bigger and bigger. In a video, Kanjorski reveals that on Thursday, September 15, 2008, there was a $55o,000 billion electronic run on the banks and that is what caused the economic crisis. September 15th was a Monday, Thursday was the 7th anniversary of Sept.11th. Who was behind this run on the banks and can it happen again? And is this why the banks are not lending money, because of the fear that who ever was behind the run will do it again. On "Thursday" September 11th at about 11 o clock in the morning The FED noticed a tremendous draw down of the money market accounts. Money was being removed electronically. If the FED had not shut it down within hours $5.5 Trillion would have been removed.CHECK IT OUT!

hmmmm
just face it we are dealing with a bunch of jerks that want to rule over everybodys life. and they don,t give a d____ how they get there or who they run over

CONGRESSIONAL IDIOTS!
More than likely than dummies!It sure is a shame when you have a known homo
serving in congress.What does that tell you about the the fabric of the USA?
Then in the most recent election,
a known lesbian was elected;you talk about walls coming down!The stimulous bill just passed just goes to show you
how bad we really are,and approx 50%
of Americans voted for this Chicago based administration!We can all put in our 2CTS on what we should do,but I'm afraid we are stuck with what we have at least for 4 YRS,unless a 10.0 magnitude earthquake hits DC.

Rowly
are you insinuating that the Pravda press has not given details about Stabenows hubbie being an Air Amerika hack? Shocking! Especially in light of the fact that Dr. Druglas has already shown the press to be certifiably right wing!

JD's Hansome Son
Top 10 states by income

Top 10 states by income. We don't need your stinking intelligent design!

-------STATE---------------2005---------2007---
01 CONNECTICUT-----$47,819-----$54,117
02 NEW JERSEY--------$43,771-----$49,194
03 MASSACHUSETTS---$44,289-----$49,082
04 NEW YORK-----------$40,507-----$47,385
05 MARYLAND----------$41,760-----$46,021
06 WYOMING------------$36,778-----$43,226
07 CALIFORNIA---------$37,036-----$41,571
08 NEW HAMPSHIRE--$38,408-----$41,512
09 VIRGINIA-------------$38,390-----$41,347
10 COLORADO----------$37,946-----$41,042

Keep the change
Dr Doug is delusional,I believe. He's like Mikey in the cereal commercial."He hates everything".

Reply to Accounting 101
Yes, your explanation of the accounting entries is correct, but your explanation is incomplete and self-serving.

You know as well as I do that a company can have billions in retained earnings and not one cent of cash in the bank. In this case, they can decide not to pay a dividend or they can get some cash from an outside source, declare a dividend, and pay it using the new cash. If the cash came from selling bonds, the entry would be debit cash and credit bonds payable. If the cash came from selling preferred stock, the entry would be debit cash and credit preferred stock.

Flush with cash, the company can now pay a dividend out of retained earnings, the resulting entry being as you said in your column. (This illustration ignores any legal and moral issues resulting from obtaining cash for one purpose and using it for another.)

The retained earnings gave the board of directors the RIGHT to declare a dividend. The cash infusion gave them the ABILITY to pay the dividend.

If the banks had the cash on hand to actually pay the dividend prior to the Government's cash infusion, then your column holds water. You did not make that case, however. You just took us off on a rabbit trail, hoping that our ignorance of accounting and other business matters would provide cover for your flimsy argument.

If the banks did not have the cash on hand to actually pay the dividend until after the Government’s cash infusion, then the dividends were, indeed, paid out of TARP funds.

Brad Sherman may, be an accounting numbskull, as you assert, but you cannot prove it from your column without more detail on the company’s balance sheet before and after the cash infusion and the timing of the dividend declaration and payment.

JD
Wow, Zap really zinged you!

His point was?

Yes, that is scary
This is going to be a rough 2 years.

Song and Dance
Retained Earnings isn't a separate bank account where cash is kept. A corporation's earnings are reinvested in the business be it a building or the purchase of collateralized securities or loans to small businesses.

Retained Earnings on a balance sheet does not constitute liquidity, and Bowyer's song and dance doesn't make it so.

Bowyer could have used his column to highlight one of the dangers of the government bailout. Now that the government has an interest in businesses, the government is now telling businesses what to do. That's dangerous.

Accounting for dividends
If I recall Accounting 101 correctly, retained earnings are used frequently to shore up cash flow.

In any event, if the bank paid a dividend (regardless of its source) the government received something for its investment.

Use the New Accounting rules
Using the new congressional accounting, it's simple kids, try it for yourselves!

435 representatives + 100 senators = $1.2 trillion

Let's change the last lines of the Star Spangled Banner to, "Land of the freeloader and the home of the braindead?"

Little ACORNS
I have no doubt many of these mindless musings from the left here at townhall are paid agitators for ACORN.

They have come out from under rocks,out of sewers and various and sundry places. They have the smell of filth that makes me feel ill just reading some of their drivel.

ACORN people are all over the country,plying their trade. They use different names but their work is easy to spot.
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