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Monday, April 02, 2007
Jennifer Roback Morse :: Townhall.com Columnist
Is Feminism Finished?
by Jennifer Roback Morse
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I hesitate to proclaim the death of feminism, since it seems to be alive in the public square. Men are still being persecuted on trumped up rape charges. Fathers are still being kept out of their children's lives. The abortion lobby is still whining about crisis pregnancy centers. But judging from my recent debate at the University of Virginia, I'd have to say there ain't much intellectual life left in the old feminist corpse. (You can read the text of my prepared remarks here.)

At the debate, sponsored by the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, and the Network of Enlightened Women, I made the argument that the taxpayers of Virginia should not be asked to pay for the support of an ideological department that supports the political interests and activities of left-wing women. The taxpayers should equally fund a Men's Studies department, or a Life Studies Department, to provide gender and ideological balance to Women's Studies. My opponent, Amy Richards, co-founder of the Third Wave Foundation, did not dispute the claim that Women's Studies departments are ideological. Instead, she offered two defenses of Women's Studies. First, students who don't agree with the ideology can learn critical thinking by having their preconceived ideas challenged. Second, students who do agree with the ideology can feel good about themselves.

You don't need Women's Studies for the former objective: old-fashioned liberal arts distribution requirements served exactly that purpose. Students learn logical and critical thinking through philosophy, math and economics classes. And the second objective is not a legitimate aim of an academic department. Students shouldn't be going to classes to feel good about themselves.

The defender of Women's Studies made a couple of serious admissions. When a student asked why a particular class at the University of Virginia on gender differences was no longer cross listed in Women's Studies, the speaker demurred, saying she needed to know all the details. So I asked her directly: if a proposed class included Harvey Mansfield's Book, Manliness and Steven Rhoads' book, Taking Sex Differences Seriously in the curriculum, would you support its inclusion in the Women's Studies program? She said yes. I imagine this will be news to Professors Mansfield and Rhoads.

She argued that marriage was nothing more than a civil contract. I think she thought this was a devastating point in favor of an invent-your-own approach to marriage. So I asked her: should we enforce marriage like a real contract, and abolish no-fault divorce, which imposes no costs on spouses who renege on the most basic marriage responsibility of fidelity? She said she favored ending no-fault divorce. I told her I was glad to hear it.

Despite the lack of intellectual heft displayed at this debate in defense of Women's Studies, there are over 750 such programs around the country. Their left-wing graduates join the ranks of opinion-making and policy-making professions, including the media, academia, government, women's magazines, private foundations, the judiciary, and human resources departments. Wherever gender issues are discussed and decided, women's studies graduates play a dominant role, subsidized unwittingly by the tax dollars of janitors and cooks and cabdrivers and garbage collectors. It is time to end the One Party System of Gender Politics. It is time that conservative women as well as men of all political persuasions had a seat at that table.

Or, just shut down the Women's Studies Departments.

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Jennifer Roback Morse, Ph.D., is the author of Smart Sex: Finding Life-long Love In A Hook-up World. She blogs at jennifer-roback-morse.blogspot.com

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So long and thanks for all the fish...
I'll keep rebutle short, because I don't expect a reply.

With regards to prostate cancer, no, that is not fair. However, you'll find if you ask the researchers who are developing treatments and investigating the possibility for a cure for breast cancer they will say that any information yielded in the fight against breast cancer also helps those with prostate cancer. Especially when you consider that single genes can have a regulatory 'switching' effect on multiple forms of cancer (breast, prostate, ovarian, brain tumours). Trust me, I honestly did talk to some doctors about it. However, I agree that the discrepency in funding and awareness is a problem. Have you thought about taking a stand against the injustice you're seeing? But, I certainly agree. I was annoyed to read your comments because if you had left your biased spin off my argument you'd note my point was that it is unfair that one half of the population should be favoured over the other. I deliberately left out naming male or female, because it doesn't matter who is being descriminated against, both should be equally acknowledged. Yeah, fair is fair Peter.

Onto another topic. I ignore the comments about "children born out of wedlock into totally disfunctional and chaotic environments" and the "marriage is a form of slavery" type arguments, because honestly I find them mindnumbing stupid. You know what, there are plenty of people born in wedlock into disfunctional and chaotic environments. Marriage is not a form slavery and fathers are not redundant. Jeez, don't hold me responcible for every ideology even remotely based on feminism and don't expect me to analyse each ideology unless you do the same to those based upon conservative principles.

Lastly Peter, thanks for putting in the effort, obviously neither of us was going to change the others beliefs, but I've always enjoyed trying and I imagine so do you. Thanks for the unforgettable quotes. Happy flamming.

Time will be the arbiter.
Sera, this will be my last response as I have better things to do than flip onto the comment section of old columns that probably few other people , if any, are still reading.

I am not going to bother to put your fringe analysis (to put it mildly) of disturbed 14 year old girls into context with the tens of millions of human beings throughout the Western world (presently four thousand / week in my own country, the UK, alone) who have lost their lives before even seeing the light of day. The misleading human caricature that you choose to use (as is the want of feminists) certainly exists - but in terms of the perspective of the whole picture it is negligible.

And while you still choose to focus drunkenly and narcissistically at issues such as Australia's Sales Tax on the products of a chemist shop or pharmacy - let me attempt to prise you away a short distance to let in the light of day of a real world and the reality of issues that are vastly more important . To help you, I will stay on the theme of health and hygeine. You say:-.

"When Australia was implementing a GST the government did not tax razors, but the did tax women's hygiene products (such as tampons and pads). Naturally the female politicians and the women's movement kicked up a fuss and the government backfliped. Fair is fair".

Well let us consider something else, relevant to another nation shall we. In the UK 30,000 men a year are diagnosed with prostate cancer. Over 9,000 men a year die of this often fatal illness. These figures are only fractionally less (approx. 2-3%) than the corresponding numbers of women who are diagnosed and die of breast cancer. But the government presently spends over 10 times the amount on public awareness, medical research and screening for breast cancer than it does on prostate cancer. Practically every pharmacy and many supermarkets in Britain has a collecting tin for breast cancer research, often accompanied by individuals providing first hand advice. People rarely, if ever, see any efforts being made, in this way, on behalf of the fight against prostate cancer.

Fair is fair is it Sera?

I could provide a multitude of different parallels relevant to not only health, but also to education, law and employment.

I read some of the other statements you have made, poorly written and based upon the myopic fantasy that every form of extremism has always depended and which totally ignores what others have said (when it suits them), not just myself here as an opponent of feminism (ref. children born out of wedlock into totally disfunctional and chaotic environments), but also their fellow fanatics ('marriage is a form of slavery', 'fathers are optional' etc.)....

You say:-
"I was hoping I'd get a responce my argument on the correlation between crime, etc. and social and economic poverty, but I enjoyed your responce none the less. ".

"Feminism isn't responcible for the "assault" on marriage and the family- people are responcible".

"The short answer is no, feminism is not dead. As long as certain individuals maintain their biased and descriminatory opinions feminism will endure".

...... and although many people might roll up their sleaves, reach for the mountain of written evidence that is available, as well as relate to you what crosses their own field of vision everyday - I realise debate is futile with someone like yourself Sera. I would only ever end up repeating myself in an attempt to move on from the parroted jargon of your creed. I have better things to do than to writhe around futilely responding to a single individual - who doesn't want to hear, and is not capable of understanding (or who simply refuses to accept), what I have to say.

Goodbye Sera. Time will have to prove to you that feminism is wrong. And it will eventually. Time has always been on the side of reality and reason. Reality may lose its grip occasionally. But, as Soviet Communists and German Nazis would testify, were they able, time has always ensured that reality eventually recaptures what it has dropped, and often very dramatically sweeps away what has replaced it.
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