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Wednesday, November 26, 2008
Janet M. LaRue :: Townhall.com Columnist
Media Still Giving Obama a Honeymoon on Marriage
by Janet M. LaRue
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President-elect Barack Obama told an MTV interviewer the day before the election that he believes “marriage is between a man and a woman,” and that he’s “not in favor of gay marriage.” Despite a host of blatantly incompatible statements, Obama’s besotted media seem incapable of scrutinizing his alleged support of traditional marriage.

Even many conservatives have given him a pass on this issue.

Obama has repeatedly stated his intent to repeal the entire federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), which protects man-woman marriage. He’s called it “an abhorrent law.” Why aren’t media asking:

  • If Obama believes that “marriage is between a man and a woman,” why does he want to repeal the section of DOMA that defines marriage under federal law as “a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife?” 
  • If Obama believes that “the federal government should not stand in the way of states that want to decide on their own how best to pursue equality for gay and lesbian couples whether that means a domestic partnership, a civil union or a civil marriage,” (as he wrote in an open letter published on a homosexual news Web site on March 5, 2008) why does he want to repeal the other section of DOMA, which protects the right of states to decide those very issues “on their own?”
  • Why did Obama oppose the right of Californians to define marriage by passing Proposition 8, even though California provides every right and benefit of marriage to same-sex domestic partners, which is all that he claims to favor?

Obama referred to Prop. 8 as “playing around with the constitutions.” You’d think some media type would ask him why he approves of four judges on the California Supreme Court playing Etch-a-Sketch with the California constitution by writing in a “right” to same-sex “marriage.”

Andrew Sullivan wrote on his “Daily Dish” blog for The Atlantic on Nov. 11: “Obama has always opposed marriage equality, even splitting with his own church on the issue. In California, he got his way.” Sullivan doesn’t explain why he doesn’t believe Obama’s expressed opposition to Prop. 8, or whether he believes that Obama intends to repeal DOMA.

A Slate magazine column, “Props to Obama: Did he help push California's gay-marriage ban over the top?,” mentioned that “Obama opposed Proposition 8, but only guardedly—and he has always made plain his opposition to gay marriage.” The column’s author, Farhad Manjoo, doesn’t mention any Obama inconsistencies.

In a Telegrah.UK article, “Barack Obama: ‘marriage is between a man and a woman,’”

Catherine Elsworth reported Nov. 4 on Obama’s MTV interview. She mentioned that he “reaffirmed his opposition” to Prop. 8. Elsworth also noted that Obama “opposes the federal Defense of Marriage Act that prevents states from having to recognise same-sex marriages performed in other states and voted against a federal constitutional amendment to define marriage as between a man and a woman.”

Elsworth didn’t question why, if Obama believes marriage should be between a man and a woman, he wants to repeal DOMA.

In a Nov. 8 Los Angeles Times article, “Gays, blacks divided on Proposition 8:

For many African Americans, it's not a civil rights issue,” reporters Cara Mia DiMassa and Jessica Garrison explained why both sides of the Prop 8 battle could claim Obama support, but didn’t question whether his positions are consistent:

One complicating factor was that both sides in the campaign had plausible reason to claim Obama’s support. The president-elect strongly stated his opposition to the proposition, calling it “divisive and discriminatory.”

But he has also said in public speeches that he opposes same-sex marriage. In the days leading up to the election, some Democrats received “robo-calls” on their cellphones containing an excerpt from such a speech.

"Here is Barack Obama in his own words on the definition of marriage," the call began.

Then the voice of Obama speaking to a crowd comes on: "I believe marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God is in the mix.”

A narrator then urged a yes vote on Proposition 8.

Radio host and author Glenn Greenwald described his “vital (if not complete) antidote” to the passage of Prop 8 on his Salon blog Nov. 6. Greenwald is relying on Obama’s promise to repeal DOMA:

Barack Obama has, on numerous occasions, emphatically expressed his support for repealing DOMA. When he ran for the U.S. Senate in 2004, he wrote a letter to Chicago's Windy City Times, calling DOMA “abhorrent” and its repeal “essential,” and vowing: “I opposed DOMA in 1996. It should be repealed and I will vote for its repeal on the Senate floor.” But he went on to cite what he called the “the realities of modern politics” in order to proclaim (accurately) that DOMA's repeal at that time -- 2004 -- was “unlikely with Mr. Bush in the White House and Republicans in control of both chambers of Congress.” After Tuesday, that excuse is no longer availing. [Emphasis in original].

If any media personality should see spin in Obama’s statements, it’s Bill O’Reilly. So far, he’s repeating Obama’s “anti gay marriage” statement as fact.

On Nov. 13, O’Reilly stated emphatically on Fox’s O’Reilly Factor that president-elect “Barack Obama doesn’t want gay marriage.” O’Reilly said it twice. He also said, “Barack Obama is against gay marriage. He wants to keep marriage between a man and a woman.”

O’Reilly’s guest, Wayne Besen, is director of the homosexual advocacy group “Truth Wins Out,” which opposed Prop. 8 but supports Obama.  Besen reminded O’Reilly that “Barack Obama was outspoken against Proposition 8. He is a politician.”

O’Reilly then asked Besen, “You don’t think he is telling the truth when he says he opposed gay marriage? Besen dodged the question.

I wish O’Reilly would ask me.

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About The Author
Jan LaRue is Senior Legal Analyst with the American Civil Rights Union; former Chief Counsel at Concerned for Women; Legal Studies Director at Family Research Council; and Senior Counsel for the National Law Center for Children and Families. Be the first to read Janet LaRue's column. Sign up today and receive Townhall.com delivered each morning to your inbox.
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Is it possible that even Hussein Obama doesn't know what he believes? He is a very confused man indeed.

Obama's positions are consistent
He can say, with honesty, that he opposes gay marriage and that marriage is between a man and a woman, and still oppose legal restrictions that prohibit gay marriage.

There is no conflict between his professed beliefs, which, arguably, are his own personal religious beliefs, and his willingness to 'live and let live' as far as government intervention is concerned.

I kind suspect that his statements were geared more to winning the election than to support a particular position on gay marriage, but in that I think he simply found it convenient that his personal beliefs coincided with the majority of the electorate as a matter of sentiment.

I don't think he believes it as a matter of law.

Shame on You
Ms. LaRue, as an attorney, you should know better than to make such disingenuous points.

1. DOMA is unconstitutional. Speak about activist judges, what about an activist congress? DOMA spits in the face of the full faith and credit clause of the constitution. Its inevitable repeal has nothing to do with an irrational faith-based ideal of marriage, it has to do with the LAW. Congress never should have passed it in the first place. It was bound to be overturned by the courts eventually.

2. Prop 8 is unconstitutional and wrong! It is a state's issue to decide same-sex marriage, and we live in a republic. We do not let the majority terrorize the minority for Schadenfreude. Obama saw this and in CA's case recognized the issue as a constitutional one, not a popular vote issue. Do you think women would have ever had the right to vote if it was left to the popular vote? OF COURSE NOT! In that alternate world, your bar license is a dream of a subordinate housewife.

Laws on rights are better left to deliberation, not to the whims of an easily manipulated electorate.

3. And again, as for DOMA and a state's right to decide marriage issues without the federal government's interference, DOMA is unconstitutional. Any attempt by Congress to mandate recognition by states of same-sex marriage is unconstitutional, making DOMA unnecessary.

4. It's no matter, any of this really. Zealots are on the wrong side of history. I implore you to read the recent Miami opinion finding the Florida homosexual adoption ban unconstitutional. The four day trial was just about facts and science, not about religion and pseudo-science and hate. The decision by the judge was based on the incontrovertible evidence. It deals a death-blow to the irrationality and bigotry spewed by the zealots. One day zealots empowered by their misguided religion won't fool anybody. A bigot is a bigot, whether they point to their holy book, their god, or their peers.

Obama's take on Marriage
His "professed belief" in Marriage as between a man and a woman is a crock of cow dung.
He's a Left-wing Liberal and a politician as well!
Remember?
He talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Only time will tell before "The One", "The Messiah" shows his true values.
What a person of evil who is part of a Party of Evil.
Gay & Lesbian Rights, Abortion Rights, Ruinous Healthcare Reforms, Unfair taxation and Government Control?
And to think, he even has the audacity to profess, as so many other Demoncrats, to being a Christian!

Not Hard
To understand how the Zogby poll revealed how Obama got elected-by ignorance. Ignorance of people who get their "news" from the mainstream media. They are brainwashed by propaganda. I would say that it's not the peoples' fault, but in this day and age, there really is no excuse for depending on the regular media for truth and not digging for oneself.

Obama brings the meaning of flip-flopping to a whole new level. My thinking is that he is extremely ambitious but naive. That's why he did not distance himself from nutbars like Ayers, etc, while all the time, he was clearly intending to run for high office, if not the presidency.

He's intelligent. He's trying. Now that he's been elected and he sees what he's dealing with, he's weighing everything and honestly trying to do what's right instead of following the looney-leftist agenda.

He cares more about the country than I gave him credit for. I'm willing to give him a chance. The alternative is unthinkable-that he will implement the far-left ideas he three out there during the campaign. America would not survive if he did.

So again, he cares more about the country than I gave him credit for. And I will continue to pray for him.

Just say not to gay marriage- yes we did
Can everyone get over it please. Heterosexuals have marriage, homosexuals have civil partnerships. Both have the same legal significance and rights but keep society from 'pretending' that homosexual relationships are equal to heterosexual relationships - an abvious fact. Also, members of our society do not have to wonder if a person is married to a 'he or a she' because marriage implies heterosexual and civil partner implies same sex. Can all you who don't get it listen to Sir Elton John - and get over it! It is time for clarity.

Personal belief and Public Policy
I think obama has a right to have a personal belief that homosexuals have a right to marry while upholding the idea of marriage being defined as 'one man and one woman'. His personal ideas are not important if he understands that they can not guide public policy and that americans so far, have voted for one man and one woman. I can't believe I am defending Hussein, but when he's right, he's right and I think on this issue it's possible to have a personal belief that is different than what he advocates as public policy. Now if only he could do the same with embroynic stem cell and abortion.

Lon
"Obama has been consistent in opposing gay marriage but supporting civil unions."

Wrong. The only thing Obama has been consistent on is being inconsistent on this issue. He stated he was strongly opposed to Proposition 8 in CA. Prop 8 defines marriage as being between one man and one woman. (same with DOMA)CA already has in place civil unions for same sex couples. They are called Registered Domestic Partnerships. If he only supported civil unions, there would be no reason for him to have opposed Prop 8.

BTW the Registered Domestic Partnership laws grants all of the same rights that the state has authority to grant to same sex couples. It does not give those same rights to unmarried heterosexual couples. Is this discrimination against heterosexual couples?

Obama and Neutered Marriage
It is quit interesting to see marriage neutering advocates drop friends and publicize those who didn't support their side in California, target them for harassment and boycotts and protests, and decry them as bigots - and yet proudly say that they VOTED for and DONATED to Obama, who, by their definition, is also a bigot. Go figure!

http://walrus.blogtownhall.com/2008/07/23/neutering_marriag e_devalues_and_discourages_marriage.thtml

Obama's view
Obama has been consistent in opposing gay marriage but supporting civil unions. I think the suspicion that he actually favors gay marriage but does not feel that he can be honest about it is that by all appearances he is a decent man who does not seem likely to support discriminating against people just because they are different than him, or because their own marriages are so fragile that they require excluding others from the institution in order to make them work.

Look at how silly La Rue's argument looks when she has to pretend that measures that do not affect heterosexual marriage are actually measures to protect heterosexual marriage. Heterosexuals should be insulted at this suggestion that our marriages are somehow dependent on preventing gays marriage getting civil recognition.

MESSAGE FROM THE FRONT
The Mainstream Media finally got what it deserves, an INDICTMENT. READ THE INDICTMENT PAPERS AT http://stopthepresses2.blogspot.com

MEASSGE FROM THE FRONT
The Culture wars are in full swing. The liberals have their warriors. Where are the conservative warriors? I don’t mean the one that sit on the sidelines complaining and moaning it’s time to fight back against the forces that oppose us. Join me.
http://stopthepresses2.blogspot.com

The chickens
will come home to roost. I blame the MSM and they will rationlize bambi's future decision. It will be sutle and paired with a serious crisis. The free press media has lost all its rights to uphold these serious responsibilties.

Media propoganda
The media will be alot more fun to watch now that they have someone who the want to have in front of the cameras. The number of times we've seen Obama smiling at us with rhetoric of new things to come, from some interest group, is quite remarkable but the media ignores reporting it as propogandizing and unseemly.

Will the MSM hold the democrats to account for their get out of Iraq at all cost rhetoric now that they have the champion of that campaign as president? More likely they will settle for the sixteen months and give little notice of the extensions of the deployments.

Just as the MSM has turned a blind eye to global warming now being called global climate change and the mounting evidence that man made global warming is a hoax we can expect more commercialized Obama-isms and happy talk.

On global warming and saving the polar bear. Let's have our government representatives do something that would really save the polar bear. Let's have Nancy Pelosi go put condoms on grizzly bears.


Obama must stand on protecting marriage
There is a “penumbra” (see Griswold v. Conn) that casts a decisive legal shadow over the Prop 8 matter. Christians that wish to preserve traditional marriage represent the great majority in California – and their will prevailed in the passage of Prop 8.

It is here that Church and State meet – and for the CA Supremes to deny Christians their right to protect traditional marriage is an intolerant act of discrimination against them – a crossing of the line where the State interferes with traditional religious practice.

http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php ?storyid=9345

Media Throw Bouquets To Boy-King.....
The growth of government, under Bush and now His Excelency Obama, is the greatest danger to our way of life. Barry Hussein will work hard to incrementally "sign up" more people onto some form of government health insurance, he will work to keep more people from paying federal income tax, nationalize more industries, etc. All these things bring about a huge, statist country with the elites "managing" we lowly rubes and peasants.

All of this will be applauded by the sycophant, fawning press.

Shocking
Surprise surprise surprise. The media yet again lets Obama slide and ride on both sides of an issue.
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