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Wednesday, January 21, 2009
Jacob Sullum :: Townhall.com Columnist
Guantanamo State of Mind
by Jacob Sullum
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Seven years ago, the Pentagon began imprisoning men it described as "very hard cases," "the worst of the worst" among terrorists in American custody, at the U.S. Naval Base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Since then it has released more than 500 of them. "What's left," Vice President Dick Cheney declared last week, "is the hard core." That was right before the Pentagon released half a dozen more.

Unless the Bush administration recklessly loosed hundreds of hardened terrorists on the world, the president's men evidently were mistaken when they said every detainee belonged in that category. That pattern of error reinforces the argument against allowing the executive branch to wield the kind of unchallengeable authority it asserted at Guantanamo.

As President Obama proceeds with his plan to close the prison, he should recognize that Guantanamo is not so much a place as a state of mind. It's an attitude that says: We know who the bad guys are, and we're not about to let anyone endanger national security by second-guessing us.

The Bush administration manifestly did not know who the bad guys were. Its methods for identifying "unlawful enemy combatants," defined as anyone, anywhere who belonged to or supported the Taliban or Al Qaeda, were sloppy and haphazard.

More than 90 percent of the 779 men held at Guantanamo were captured not by Americans but by Afghan militiamen, Pakistani forces or other parties of dubious reliability, often in anticipation of bounties the United States had promised. Many detainees were either minor hangers-on or entirely innocent, held based on the uncorroborated word of self-interested captors or of prisoners eager to please interrogators who used "enhanced" techniques to extract accusations.

The Pentagon acknowledges that 17 Chinese Muslims it has held since 2002 were incorrectly identified as unlawful enemy combatants but says it cannot send them back to China because they might be persecuted there. At the same time, it has appealed a federal judge's order to release them in the United States.

Haji Bismullah, one of the men freed over the weekend, fought the Taliban and later served as a regional transportation official in Afghanistan's pro-American government. After members of a rival clan who coveted his position accused him of terrorist connections, he was held at Guantanamo for nearly six years before a military panel, belatedly paying attention to the witnesses who vouched for him, decided he "should no longer be deemed an enemy combatant."

Since the Supreme Court ruled last June that Guantanamo detainees may pursue habeas corpus petitions in federal court, the government has lost 23 of 26 cases. The most recent one involved Mohammed el Gharani, a Chadian who was detained by Pakistani forces at a Karachi mosque in 2001, when he was 14.

Last week, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon ordered Gharani's release, finding that the case against him was based almost entirely on the unconfirmed, inconsistent accounts of two prisoners whose reliability the government itself had questioned. Among other things, Gharani was accused of belonging to a London-based Al Qaeda cell in 1998, when he was 11 and living in Saudi Arabia.

In November, Leon ruled that the government did not have enough evidence to detain five Algerians who were arrested in Bosnia in 2001 and accused of (SET ITAL) intending (END ITAL) to fight with the Taliban. He found that the charge was based "exclusively on the information contained in a classified document from an unnamed source."

Leon, a Bush appointee who ruled in 2005 that Guantanamo detainees could not pursue habeas corpus claims, probably was inclined to side with the government. Furthermore, under the standard he applied, the Bush administration only had to show by "a preponderance of the evidence" (a likelihood of more than 50 percent) that the prisoners' detention was appropriate.

These cases therefore speak volumes about the fallibility of the executive branch and the need for independent review of its detention decisions. I hope our new president is listening.

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"...And as for the so-called terrorists who have been let go only to be recaptured on the battle field killing Americans or, the others who chose to blow themselves up along w/ dozens of "infidels", it's like the palestinian situation: they were treated poorly by western culture so naturally -instead of going into micro-biology like most other young muslims who would also be seeking and finding cure after cure for terrible diseases- they have no other choice but to stop the evil Americans before they can torture again."

You're welcome, Mr. Sullum. I knew you would want to get that in there.

Here is the problem with your synopsis:
The war against Islamic terrorists is not a conventional war. The enemy, Islamists intent on destroying Israel, the U.S. and Western civilization in general, wear no uniforms and do not represent a particular nation/state.

They are a conglomerate of radicals from various nations. They are ruthless, barbaric and indiscriminate in their killing and torture of innocents, even other Muslims. They follow no protocols of battle, nor do they adhere to the geneva convention.

At least 60 of those inmates released from Gitmo were recaptured on the battlefield.
The last thing we need is to bring them here to the U.S. so that liberal lunnies like the ACLU and their ilk can take on their cases using American laws and possibly realease them amongst us. We are expected to follow strict protocols against a ruthless enemy who follows none. That is a sure fire formula for defeat and eventual catastrophe.

I usually agree with you . . .
Mr Sullum, but not this time. There are dangerous people out there that have to be dealt with. The GENEVA CONVENTION procedures would normally apply but these "enemy combatants" do not wear uniforms and are not a part of an organized "military unit". If GITMO is closed, I would suggest that summary execution procedures be followed. YES, spies and saboteurs (without uniforms) are subject to summary execution under GENEVA CONVENTION rules.

Sullum must tread lightly here
Else he will be portrayed as a terrorist-sympathizing fellow traveler, or worse.

So the Bush administration has been releasing hundreds of what it deemed to be hardcore terrorists for years.

This administration knew in its gut who was the terrorist and who was not.

Cough.

In reality, Sullum is right.

Many of these terrorists were given up by fellow tribesmen who held grudges, or by other tribes who had scores to settle.

That, along with the money that was so freely handed out, was a recipe for abuse and manipulation.

"Get rid of Abdul? No problem, just finger him as a terrorist. Now I can covet his wife".

There obviously are a few actual terrorists among the detainees. And reports that a handful of released detainees were later killed battling NATO and American forces in Afghanistan, underscores that point.

But we can't lock up the entire Muslim world as detainees.

We needed people we could rely upon who were fluent in the language and tribal customs of the area.

Easier said than done, I know.

Genuine conservatives, as opposed to droolers who refuse to acknowledge ANY limits on executive power, should display the same suspicion and skepticism over unbridled executive power in this area as they rightly do in other areas in which government(whether executive/legislative/judicial), exercisees its formidable powers.

I agree with Sullum.

Gitmo Detainees
Gee, I thought this was a conservative site, rather than a soap-box for lib-tards to spew their BDS!
How can any SANE person extend Constitutional rights (habeas corpus) to non-citizens??? It's the UNTIED STATES' Constitution, not the World's Constitution! True, there may have been abuses (rival tribes settling scores) of our policy to try combatants, rather than summarily executing them, per the Geneva Conventions. The delays in the actual fact-finding for most cases can be laid firmly at the feet of all the "bleeding hearts" trying to illegally extend American rights to foreign detainees. Without their interference, the processes to determine facts could have proceeded promptly. Oh, but it's the PRESIDENT'S fault THEY delayed these determinations, of facts, by their litigation! Does anyone else see the consistant pattern of the liberal's tranference of blame, (ie; refusal to take responsibility for their own acts) on a popular "whipping boy"? (Bush)

Battlefiled Deaths
I do believe that extending Constitutional Rights to enemy combatants will increase battlefield deaths. Not for our people but for the enemy. I would not take a prisoner who is going to be granted all the rights of a citizen. Where does it stop? Can he sue me for infringing upon his civil liberties, will I be drug in front of a court and interogated by some ACLU member who does not have a NAMBLA case that day? If there is any doubt I just pull the trigger.

You do not win wars by being more civil than your enemy you win wars by breaking the will of the soldier to fight and/or the will of the civilians to suppor the fight. Were all of those at Dresden and Hamburg Nazis? I seriously doubt it.

for Kerry
Kerry asks: "How can any SANE person extend Constitutional rights (habeas corpus) to non-citizens???"

Go read the Constitution, specifically the Bill of Rights. It talks about the rights of "THE PEOPLE" and "PERSONS," not CITIZENS.

For example, the First Amendment gives freedom of expression to anyone on our territory, even if they're not citizens.

Would you want it any other way? Would you want the United States Government to be able to arrest and hold without trial any tourist from Europe or Japan who comes to America and tells our local news media that they disapprove of U.S. Government policies?

No, that Japanese tourist visiting New York City has exactly the same rights from the First Amendment that you and I do.

How this was dealt with in the past
The closest analogue to al-Qaeda terrorists (armed civilians not part of a regular army) was the "civilian partisans" of both World Wars and of the Franco-Prussian War.

And in those wars, civilian partisans, when caught by the enemy, were usually SHOT in cold blood, without trial, without imprisonment.

Bush's mistake was to try to figure out a more humane solution on the fly, within a matter of a few weeks in October 2001. I read his original plan for handling enemy combatants. It neglected a host of thorny legal issues. I've seen high school term papers that were more comprehensive.

Bush should have enlisted the finest legal minds of the nation, BOTH liberal and conservative, to come up with a better solution for enemy combatants. It would have taken a lot longer, and been much longer in content, but it wouldn't have produced the mess we've got with Gitmo today.

Right from 9-11, the attitude of the Bushies was "Leave us alone, we know what we're doing." Well, no they didn't.

What to do with *released detainees*
I do not agree with most of the authors premises. Assuming that "some are innocent" OK.
If the country of origin will accept them OK
What is the US to do as far as placement of those who cannot go back *HOME*..I sure as H4LL
don't want them and the detainees are better off in Gitmo than in Folsom's Gen Population..
As a Military Retire (Proud of it) I've said many times: "War is Nasty Business" If Ur scared of ill treatment BETTER NOT GET INVOLVED..CHEERS!!

Mr. Sullum
I have a great solution for the problem you portray in your article. First of all I don't trust your facts and secondly, I think all the detainees should move in with you. Now that is a good solution to the problem since you seem to think the problem is our miltary and the government so why don't fix it.

I love it
Presented with facts instead of firebrand fear inducing rhetoric what is the reaction?

Suspension of belief and a call to kill all combatants on the battlefield. Ok, now what about the 94% that the Pentagon itself admits were not captured on the battlefield?

Further, what about the half dozen career military lawyers who have resigned in protest?

Heroic Jacob Sullum
--does it again!

Amazing how bloodthirsty and filled with pseudo-machismo so many of you neocon laptop bombardiers are! How much you reveal about yourselves!

"We should just kill them all" say some of you.

"They have no Habeus Corpus rights!" say others.

So the president makes up an obviously phony story, and you brownshirts are ready to stand up and goose-step.

Transparency
It is becoming transparent that President Obama is soft on crime. He has a cabinet with activities and crimes which no other person currently in their prospective department can commit and maintain their job in that same department. The Obama Administration will use social justice to defy the United states Constitution, the United States Supreme Court, federal regulations, federal codes, federal statutes, and other acts of congress. While conferring with the domestic terrorist of the ACLU, NAACP, LULAC, GLAD, KKK, BLACK PANTHERS, ACORN, ARRYAN NATION, and others practicing bigotry, hate, discrimination, reverse discrimination, religious persecution, political bias in the name of peace and unity.

Bush's Neverland
What the criminal George W. Bush actually did was create a class of people who have no rights whatsoever.

If you are accused of a crime, you get your day in court to face and cross-examine your accusers.

If you are a prisoner of war, you have the protection of the Geneva Conventions.

Bush invented Neverland definitions like "illegal combatant," which is a person who has neither the chance to present his case in court, nor the protections of the Geneva Conventions. And of course, the President himself gets to choose just who is an "illegal combatant" and who isn't.

This, I submit, is a prescription for sheer tyranny.

Innocents die in wars.
The President was faced with so many impossible decisions, he took what seemed to be the "least bad" decision in creating Guantanamo, ostensibly for captured terrorists and insurgents.

If a large number of men at Gitmo have turned out to have been railroaded, not picked up on the battlefield, falsely accused, etc. then that is something for the discovery process of the military tribunal to bring to light.

What? Military tribunals delayed? suspended? Not allowed to go forward through the endless delaying tactics of the left? Sounds like the guys who really were railroaded could have been home years ago if not for Chuck Schumer and the rest.

Now that's criminal. Bush did nothing criminal. Every decision taken was done with all factors in the balance, with protection of America and her people receiving the most weight. There was not a single case of the intentional imprisonment of an innocent man.

Twist it all you like, lefties. There's a crime that happened all right--the crime of not allowing tribunals to go forward with alacrity so the innocent men could be sorted out and sent back to their families.

Take your medicine, lefties. You did this.

O.K. now what?
The fact that some of these "detainess" are not terrorists is a shame, however, would you rather be safe or sorry? That's an easy choice for me.
What is the actual percentage of non-terrorists being held at Gitmo? The author mentions only a handful of instances an does not delve in to details. Fourteen year old boys can shoot AK-47s and throw bombs too. Does this mean we release them all in America? Maybe the author or some liberals would like to live next to them.

SteveL in MA
SL: "And in those wars, civilian partisans, when caught by the enemy, were usually SHOT in cold blood, without trial, without imprisonment.

Bush's mistake was to try to figure out a more humane solution on the fly, within a matter of a few weeks in October 2001."

I have agree with most of your posts, but I must disagree here.

Bush made a number of mistakes, but treating people humanely instead of shooting them on the spot should not be counted among them. For one thing, you can't get information from a prisoner if he's dead.
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