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Wednesday, March 07, 2007
Jacob Sullum :: Townhall.com Columnist
Fry 'Em? Even Sex Offenders Can Be Punished Too Severely
by Jacob Sullum
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New York is about to become the 20th state with a civil commitment program for sex offenders, thereby embracing an increasingly fashionable contradiction: When sex offenders are caught and convicted, the government says they're responsible for their actions, so it locks them up. But after they serve their time, it says they can't control themselves, so it locks them up some more.

After nearly two decades of forcibly "treating" sex offenders deemed especially likely to commit new crimes, it seems clear that psychiatrists are not psychics, treatment is an expensive failure and "commitment" is a euphemism for imprisonment.

Since 1990, when Washington state enacted the first civil commitment law for sex offenders, nearly 3,000 have been confined in mental health facilities after completing their sentences. According to The New York Times, only a tiny fraction of them have been pronounced "cured" enough to be released.

There's little evidence the two major treatment approaches, "relapse prevention" and cognitive-behavioral therapy, reduce recidivism. Yet civil commitment coupled with ineffective therapy costs, on average, four times as much as ordinary imprisonment -- $166,000 per year in California, for example, compared to $43,000 for prison.

That's a lot to spend on incapacitation, especially since states do not seem to do a very good job of committing the most dangerous offenders. Sometimes exhibitionists are confined while rapists go free. Some sex offenders who avoid commitment soon claim new victims, while some men currently committed (including a 102-year-old in Wisconsin) are too old or sick to pose much of a threat.

The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld civil commitment of sex offenders on the grounds that it is therapeutic and preventive rather than punitive. But the therapy is a sham, and the preventive rationale could be applied to a wide variety of criminals, all of whom have demonstrated a tendency toward anti-social behavior and many of whom are at least as prone to recidivism as sex offenders are.

Instead of punishing people for crimes they might commit in the future, why not punish them for crimes they've already committed? If certain offenses merit a life sentence, which is what you often get when you tack indefinite civil commitment onto a prison term, that penalty should be imposed explicitly and with due process. Continued...

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Out of control soccer moms more like it.
You people all disgust me and make me sick to my stomach. Most of you don't even know what a sex offender is or a child predator so maybe you know need one on this forum to educate. I am 26 years old and when i was 22 years old i met a 16 year old girl online and had some making out and fondling with her. A few months later she called the police saying that i raped her. So i went through the ring, did dna tests, gave my side of the story. paid 15k plus in lawyer and attorney fees just to go to court and still be told that i would lose and spend 5 years in jail. I was frightened so i took a plea bargain of indecent assault. I did 2 years of probation and have 1 year left to go. I have been going to a mental health therapy center near my house that is basically a total joke. This is where the blanket laws come into place horribly wrong. You would think that since i didn't rape children or commit any violent acts i would be in with people similar to me wright? wrong! They group us by insurance, not by what we have done. and all they care about is them getting paid 250 per visit from our health care coverage which is a huge racket. I have 3 people in my class that had sex with underage minors meaning girls ranging from 14 to 18, a few exhibitionists, some people who expose, and a couple who have raped children. I would never do anything wrong to children and I cant even stand the fact that i have to sit in the same room as these people. But we are all down there against our will, trying to make things right, trying to please the system. I for one would never do anything of such sort again and won't even be in the same room as a teenage girl by choice. there are some that will probably never learn there lesson but this country is built on innocent until proven guilty. the problem is that guilty in law and guilty as a sex offender are completely differet. Ill give you an example of a guy from my class. He is a decent guy who has made some idiotic mistakes in life just like all of us. He had sex with a 17 year old girl when he was 32 and did 5 years in jail. ever since getting out and serving his additional 5 years probation he has been going to my behavior clinic and each year they extend his probation and occasionally send him back for civil commitment. the problem is that we get polygraphs taken as the only means to know if we are in fact getting any better, a polygrapher goes to school for 16 weeks. Sometimes they are so poor at their job that they can barely set the machine up and require the doctors help. Here is what happened with him. They gave him a list of questions like. "do you still think about having sex with underage girls", "Do you still masturbate or look at porn", "Do you want to harm children" he passed on all of these questions then they asked him "Since your last polygraph, have you commited another sex crime with a child" and he said no and it registered as a lie. Ok now this guy has been locked up since his last polygraph, unable to communicate with anyone except inmates and guards. So there is no way he had contact with a child. But it registered as a lie. The problem here, and this is the BS they said, is that even though he hasnt committed a crime, he is still thinking about it. So therefore its just the same. In the legal system, if you commit an actual crime (not just thinking) you are punished, but to get out of civil commitment, doing something in real life doesnt matter, just thinking about it is enough to send you away for life. Now how many of you have thought about beating the crap out of your boss? or looked at an underage girl dressed scandily clad at a baseball game? or thought about how good your neighbors wife looks sometimes? probably almost everyone in america though before about doing something illegal right? our thoughts are our thoughts and nothing more! most of us have morals and guidelines that come into play then and say ok think, but dont act. but for sex offenders, we are being prosecuted and sent back to jail for years for thinking, and under things like polygraphs that are so bogus that they dont uphold in court and are inadmissible. but the kicker is that when your in a civil commitment court, they go by what the psychologist says, and they use the polygraph, so you fail the polygraph, the psychologist says you still think about it. bamm... back to jail for another year. then next year you go back to the same bs process, same results, back to jail again. I guarantee that all of America would fail this thing if the right questions were asked. nobody is holier than though. Well except for all of these out of control soccer moms that think their s8ht dont stink and that the most important thing in the world is their kids. Guys like couey and serious violent offenders need to be given that second chance, then if they do it again i agree lock them up for life. but thats why our country is so great. everyone does get that second chance. and if you look at the numbers, the number of pedophiles who kidnap and kill is so ridiculously low compared to how many sex offenders are out there for less harsh crimes its nuts. but the media picks up what the soccer moms want to hear. they push the soccer moms buttons. so it will always be fry them all.. kill them.. sort em out.. until the soccer moms kid is 19 and sleeps with a 15 year old.. then it will be oh but not my son, he didnt know any better, he thought she was older, and the list goes on and on. its all bs. if you want to look at the stats, how many of you grew up sleeping around at a young age? slept with an underage girl while her parents werent at home and u both got out of school early? how many celebrities like sonny and cher or sergei federov and kournikova did the nasty. but oh lemme guess. that was different back then right? Ok i said my piece. i think civil commitment is a sham unless the person is a 100 percent lunatic and even then give them that chance to reenter society. Innocent until proven guilty, and 2 times and your out. but none of this 1 time sleeping with an underage floosy who already slept with 5 other guys that week but you just happen to be the unfortunate number 6. we have to rewrite these laws people. There is help out there for sex offenders, but its not a cold jail cell for the rest of their life. Everyone deserves a second chance. If anyone has any questions, or just wants to ask me something let me know. Im more than open to educate you people of whats going on. Im not just going to shoot off at the mouth about killing and hanging like some of these a hole soccer moms on here. People who already sound voilent and deviant. Some of you people on the list, i wouldnt be suprised if a few battery charges were on your records. But lets focus on sex offenders here. Lets not focus on murderers or home invasion artists that are probably going to break into your house sometime soon and smack you around with a pistol. Lets focus on the real deal right?

Sex Offender MANIA Gone WILD
Child Predators / murderers like Couey and the rest deserve death. END of THAT discussion. But well over 50% (and likely more) of the people deemed Sex Offenders are NOT. I repeat , they are NOT sex offenders. The lying be-atch syndrome, the next morning regret syndrome, the 2 consenting teens syndrome, the lying ex-wife who lied /set up the man -- ie (he touched his daughter inappropriately) -----This is the biggest travesty and SCAM since the Salem Witch Trials and The Scarlet Letter. A revolution is coming.
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