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Sunday, October 12, 2008
Jackie Gingrich Cushman :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Irrationality of Rational Theory
by Jackie Gingrich Cushman
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As children most of us learn to bide our time when asking approval or permission.  We take note of the temperature of the emotions in our home and pay attention to the little signals to ensure that we ask at the time when the probability of getting what we want is the highest.  In addition, we might have even learned to use our very best manners, which in the south include “yes ma’am” and “no ma’am,” “please” and possible even “pretty please” if the request is large.  While the question asked might be the same, I have found that the response rate varies based on the presentation and timing of the question.

As a mother, I have recently noticed this same skill being used with me by my children.  I have noticed that my gratitude for their use of good manners actually does sway me towards saying yes a bit more often.  But is this rational?

“Let’s be rational,” we have all heard or said before.  Rational, according to Webster’s on-line dictionary, is “having reason or understanding.”  We expect people to be able to sift through emotions and facts and make decisions based on those facts rather than emotions.  But a study shows that, just possibly, we are giving too much credence to our brain and too little understanding to our emotions.

In their study, “Blinded by Anger or Feeling the Love,” Francesca Gino and Maurice Schweitzer “demonstrate that emotional states influence how receptive people are to advice.”  Even when the advice and advisors are identical, the findings note that, “people who feel incidental gratitude are more trusting and more receptive to advice than are people who feel incidental anger.”

The authors cite prior research that reinforces the importance and reliance on “known experts,” as well as the advice being received in a complicated area.  These are both examples of rational reliance on advice.  If advice is received from an “expert” or if the area of the decision is very complicated, it makes “rational” sense that the advice would be heeded.  This study moves from rational to emotional influence.

Specifically tested is the influence of incidental emotions, i.e., emotions that are not part of the decision at hand, but incidental to it.  Two experiments were conducted.  The first included 109 Carnegie Mellon University undergraduate students, about half of them male and half female. They were each shown one of three video clips -- an angry video clip (from My Bodyguard), a clip of a scene of gratitude (from Awakening), and a neutral clip (from a National Geographic special).  After viewing the clip, they were asked to estimate the weight of a person in a picture and provided with advice on the answer from a supposed prior participant. 

The results?  People experiencing incidental gratitude weighed advice more heavily than did people who were in a neutral state.  People experiencing incidental anger weighed advice less than did those in the neutral state.  The better the subject felt, the more the subject was receptive to advice.

In what may surprise those who believe women rely on emotion more than men, this study found no differences in outcome based on gender or occupational status.

The second experiment measured the impact of trust in 107 participants.  After viewing the video clip, they were asked to rate how much they trusted the person providing advice regarding the weight estimate.  Those who experienced incidental gratitude were more trusting and receptive to advice than were those in the neutral state, and those who experienced incidental anger were less trusting and receptive than participants in the neutral state.  

In the conclusion, the authors expect that those who make us angry, or trigger anger to be “less trusted and less influential.” The authors expect that those “who are able to generate gratitude (e.g., by causing targets to reflect on their good fortune),” are able to create “more trust and to be more influential."

What does this mean to us?  The theory of rational behavior might be just that, a theory that is not borne out in real life.  As humans with emotions, incidentally or directly caused by the activity and the decision at hand, we might be influenced much more than we think by emotions. 

This might be fine when gratitude for my child’s good manners allows for 5 minutes more playtime outside, but we might want to rethink the irrationality of rational theory. 

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Jackie Cushman is a freelance writer who lives in Atlanta, Georgia. Her column also runs later in the week in the Northside Neighbor.
 
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A Little off the subject, maybe

Jackie mentions trust.

Here is a note from my real life.

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I tried to run my business under these rules:

Wouldn't you rather trust everyone all of the time and be wrong once in a while, than trust no one at any time, and be right once in a while.

As modified by the comment of my friend Ronald Reagan, “Trust but Verify.”

I remember when I sold a house one afternoon, and after we had determined, and agreed to all needed points, we agreed to meet at the escrow office at nine the next morning.

The man pulled out his check-book, and a receipt, intending to write a deposit check, and the details of the deal.

I stopped him and said, “If we can’t trust each other until 9:00 in the morning, wouldn’t you rather find that out before we actually started to do business with each other?”

He had a shocked look on his face, but agreed that’s a great way to do business.

I did something like that several times.


Another interesting column
It has been known for ages that gratitude increases trust, receptivity to advice, and submission to authority, and anger decreases it. The designers and operators of this country's obscene transfer-payment engine understand all too well that when they raid the pork barrel, borrow heavily to underwrite tax "rebates" for non-taxpayers, or force banks to issue doomed mortgages, they buy more than votes; they also buy confidence and the benefit of the doubt.

Most of our ruling class is condescending, palpably sleazy, or otherwise offputting. Deprived of the power to enhance their reputations by giving away other people's resources, most of them couldn't convince an open-minded astronomer that the sun is up. Which of us would buy a used car from Chris Dodd if we didn't know that he's a senator?

Perhaps our only hope of relief from these parasites is that by encouraging a sense of entitlement among their dependents, they are building the generation of ingrates that will throw them out of power.

In any event, it's always useful to find evidence that supports intuitive wisdom.

Another "Me" Story From Gingrich
Do you know anything other than your life. Wait do not say yes, it would be embarrassing if you exposed your ignorance of the outside world. Or would it be just repeating the words of the NEWT who helped make the current disaster?

Three basic rules
On the appeal to "expert opinion";

Gumperson's Law;

An expert is someone who avoids all the small errors while sweeping irresistibly onward to the grand fallacy.

On careful calculations related to decision-making;

Feinberg's Second Law;

If elaborate calculations are required to justify an action, the action itself is unwise.

As for "emotional appeals" in decision making:

Eon's Third Law;

Anyone who asks that a decision be made solely or primarily on the basis of emotion, not fact, is either a fool, or dishonest. In either case, the logical conclusion is to do the opposite of whatever they are advocating.


cheers

eon


Rational investment decisions
According to every investment adviser, it's more rational to invest in stocks than to pay off your house. Fortunately, we ignored them and paid off our house, and are we ever glad we did! Plus, it only took us nine years.

Actually, though, the investment advisers who "run the numbers" aren't running every number. They aren't including various probabilities, such as whether stocks will plunge, whether you will lose your job, etc. Once you include those, it could very well be more rational to pay off your house rather than to invest.

People who are angry
and people who provoke anger according to this study have less influence over individuals and those same people are less willing to listen to other people with opinions. I wonder if that explains why some voters even if they are aware of Obama's long time association with radicals, with Acorn a corrupt organization and that Obama has told lie after lie about these matters still don't care and are voting for him?

The democrat party has during the last 8 years spent every day stirring up anger against Pres. Bush and republicans with constant name calling and criticism along with questions about his intelligence and character. This has even created a body of irrational hate in some individuals being called "Bush Derangement Syndrome. Are these people now so angry they can't take in what is known about Obama?

Are republicans so upset over the barrage of anger at them, they cannot listen to or get along with democrats?

"Trust Me": Robespierre
So that's why the French Revolution eventually turned upon itself! Anger has to have a place to go. Otherwise, they become cannabalistic. As nearly all revolutions do, eventually.

As Obama's will, when his worshippers find that he doesn't have a clue. On the other hand, McCain always picks fights with his closest friends.

If the theory is right, people would trust Obama more and McCain less. Polls may show Obama ahead, but when asked about the judgement they would rely upon, between the two? McCain wins, hands-down. People trust McCain's judgement.

Dr. Spock once had a theory, too.

Stupid, ignorant TeeHall

TeeHall Location: FL
Reply # 3
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 7:49 AM EST
Subject: Another "Me" Story From Gingrich
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You stupid, worthless, piece of human garbage, do you have to show up here each week to show how stupid you are? we remember from last week.

Get back to HuffPro where you belong.

Embarassing for libertarians
Most libertarians and many economic conservatives place great reliance on the "rational theory" that underlies conventional economics. I get my daily opinion piece from the von Mises Institute, which is committed to a thoroughly rational understanding of human action as the basis for its policy positions. Some libertarians get their rational theory from Ayn Rand, while others draw on neoclassical economics. In all cases, the rational theory that underlies the standpoint employed is, I think, subject to the sorts of limitations that Ms. Cushman's column mentions.

What's so funny about all of this is that really traditional conservatism (Russell Kir, Richard Weaver, and the like) was extremely critical of 'rational theory.' Too bad today's conservatives are just finding out that just maybe people aren't as rational as some theories predict.

loco
I have listened to the angry irrational democrats.I have determined they are loco.

Re: Man's Rationality
Mark Twain said, "When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." Another way to put it is, "Once you realize that Man is not rational, things begin to make sense." The latter is a quote from "Man by Nature: The Hidden Programming Controlling Human Behavior."

No rational person could vote O
He's an obscure, unknown, economically challenged, unaccomplished, socialistic, leftwing, pro-abortion, white-hating, anti-Christian, racialist empty suit.

Putting the reins of the most powerful nation that ever existed into the hands of a man who writes of his mother and grandparents that they are *typical white people* is the product of 40 years of lib. nonsense instead of education in the pub. school system which is a prime example of why leftwing policies ruin everything.

Jim (in CA) & TeeHall;
Actually, I thought that TeeHall's comment was good for a laugh. Consider;

(1) TeeHall presumably would like to influence the readers of these postings (and perhaps their authors, as well).

(2) TeeHall has just read an article that says those who provoke anger are less likely to be influential.

(3) TeeHall largely confines his/her comment to being as hostile and nasty as possible. That is, he/she intentionally behaves in such fashion as to provoke maximum anger.

Talk about your not getting it !!!!!

ROTFLOL!

Jim
Don't provoke hatred because someone has a different opinion than you do. This has become the hallmark of the Democratic Party and it does no service to anyone. Conservatives should simply take the high-road in every case and trust American's to eventually figure out what is the right answer.

Cushman's article is an oversimplification of the issues and is based upon very thin evidence. It is unreasonable to make any conclusion at all about the value of anger as it relates to rational decision making.

In general terms in the past 30 years I have observed that our education system has supplanted the ability of a student to think and learn based upon gaining knowledge with the idea that the student's perception of his/her self-worth is paramount.

So we now have a large segment of the voting public who simply do not have the ability think in what can pass as a rational basis. For the most part, people have replaced thinking with wishing. As a nation the United States does not have enough people who can look at past situations, and predict future results from those past lessons.

You can pick any major topic that the country faces and find that most people simply believe that some magic 'technological' answer is out there that will solve everything.

This is how people can look at Senator Obama and ignore his entire history, ignore is utter lack of proved experience, ignore that he has never factually solved any problem, and conclude that he is the answer for all of the problems that America now faces and those inevitable surprises that every President is forced to deal with.

Cheers,

Bloefeld

The audacity of the hypocrisy of statism
Another nonsense column purporting to show that human beings are helpless, fallen creatures with no free will. Get over yourself, Cushman.

This so-called "study" suffers from the same fallacies that every other Logical Positivist suffers from since the inception of their movement.

1. It attempts to define what is "rational" without actually knowing and defining what rationality consists of. The fact that a "scientist" simply declares something rational or not is supposed to be good enough. It never is.
2. It uses trivial, nonfundamental examples and attributes larger significance to them. A Logical Positivist has never known what he is looking at.
3. It provides no evidence of mass irrationality across the mass of people, only isolated incidents.

Human beings have free will, and most human beings are more rational than not most of the time. If they were not, you and I would not be alive to have this discussion.

But let's get to the heart of the matter instead of tip-toeing around it, shall we? Capitalism is the politico-economic system required by man's nature as "the rational animal," in the words of Aristotle. Man doesn't need the state's help to make his own decisions. Capitalism works just perfectly, thank you. So if you have any notion of statism to help men be more rational, then keep it to yourself.

By the way, if man cannot be trusted to be rational, then what makes anyone think the state, composed of men, is any more rational? If man is so inherently untrustworthy with regard to his rational faculty, then what makes YOU, Cushman, even worthy to write this column?

One of "them" for every Cushman article


Bloefeld Location: AE
Reply # 2
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 8:53 PM EST
Jim
Don't provoke hatred because someone has a different opinion than you do.

Fred_PA_2000 Location: PA
Reply # 3
Date: Oct 12, 2008 - 8:23 PM EST
Subject: Jim (in CA) & TeeHall;

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Neither of you got the point. I often complain that most of the replies on TH are just there because someone called the other person some bad name. It is almost impossible to get a constructive reply from anyone on TH, and most likely you will not even get a comment unless you have called someone a bad name. For example my story about “Trust” did not get a wiggle, just calling that one an idiot is the only thing anyone cared about.

I often post something I think could be of some value if someone would advance my comment, but only name calling ever gets attention.

The whole reason for my comment, is because every week, among the first replies to Cushman, is a hate note, because she just writes a cute little note on nice family things. And I get tired of those complaints. It is not her job to write about the financial mess the Demorats have gotten us into.


Gestell - So you *ARE* informed...?
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...and therefore have no excuse for advancing "Liberal" positions on this site?

Gestell writes:

"Most libertarians and many economic conservatives place great reliance on the 'rational theory' that underlies conventional economics. I get my daily opinion piece from the von Mises Institute, which is committed to a thoroughly rational understanding of human action as the basis for its policy positions."


And yet Gestell gadarenely gropes perpetually for irrationality in his political assertions in this forum.

Hm. One of the efforts made by members of the plaintiff's bar in medical malpractice cases is a series of interrogatories addressed to the defendants demanding of them the names of the medical textbooks in their personal libraries, the professional journals to which they subscribe or which they read on a regular basis, the CME activities in which they've participated, and so forth.

The purpose, obviously, is to find something in the responding defendants' reading materials and educational background which indicates that they had been exposed to knowledge of materials pertinent to maintaining standard-of-care, and which the plaintiff's attorney can show to a jury to support his contention that the particular defendant was derelict in his duty to the patient by way of failing to take that knowledge into consideration while rendering care.

So Gestell is not simply a "Liberal" because he's innocent of information on how "Liberal" doctrines and public policies have caused the present economic dislocation so spectacularly driving the planet into a world-wide depression, but *PURPOSEFULLY* and with malice aforethought disregards sound political economic reasoning and scholarship to support "Liberal" intentions and purposes.

Interesting.

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Jim - The effects of panic...
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...as well as gratitude and anger must be taken into consideration.

Jim writes:

"If the theory is right, people would trust Obama more and McCain less. Polls may show Obama ahead, but when asked about the judgement they would rely upon, between the two? McCain wins, hands-down. People trust McCain's judgement."


The problem is that the majority of voters - particularly in the "battleground" states - are most prominently subject neither to anger nor gratitude, but to *FEAR*.

The constant pounding in the MSM is upon the catastrophic collapse of the U.S. economy, with endless emphasis on the ways in which (for example) GM stock has dropped to a price level not seen since the 1950s, how New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg is going to be allowed to amend the city charter to extend his term in office perpetually because "the financial crisis" is so horrible, gigabuck companies in Great Britain and on the continent are getting their own massive bailouts from the governments of the UK and the Euro nations, etcetera endless etcetera.

The American voter isn't angry. He's terrified.

And in such a condition, he's grabbing like a drowning victim for anything that even remotely looks as if it will float.

That's *NOT* Crash Test Johnny, who is identified with the incumbent Presidential administration no matter how "Maverick" he's tried to portray himself.

Whatever else the Mulatto Miracle may be - and every bit of what he is can only be considered a disaster for America and the world - he does *NOT* convey the image of the status quo ante by which we have found ourselves in this mess.

You and I are angry, Jim. We know enough to be.

The voting public, however, is caught up by panic, not rage.

And they're going to vote for Hussein the Hubshi on November 4th.

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Misunderstanding Rational Theory
Gestell completely misconstrues it. "What Do Austrians Mean by 'Rational'?" explains:

"If human action always aims at a purpose, which by definition it does, then human action must be rational, that is, consistent with reason or guided by one's will and intellect. It can never be termed irrational. What then is irrationality? According to Mises, irrationality is not the opposite of action or purposeful behavior, that is, it is not willed behavior without a purpose. All willed behavior has a purpose. Irrational behavior is behavior induced by response to stimuli, behavior that lies beyond the control of a person's will or volition."

I think this fits with what Jackie says, because emotions, like facts, like prices, are the signals we heed when making choices.

Bottom line, rational theory simply says man has free will to choose between good and evil, and act accordingly, and reponsibly.

Interesting stuff
Comments too. I will peruse more in depth at a later time.

I too think our current lurch toward the Socialist Abyss is because of a carefully nutured culture of Dependency by the Ruling Class.

Kill em all now.

mike

Jim CA @ 12:03
I get your point. It is obvious that TeeHall has it out for Ms. Cushman due to Newt Gingrich being her father. That is why we receive his infantile ranting each week. If you look at last weeks column I responded to his ignorance just before you did.

By the way, I really chuckled at your exhaust pipe reference in your response last week.

A Prosecutor Told Me ...
When it comes to picking a jury, a defense lawyer prefers to select someone who makes emotional decisions rather than someone who makes rational decisions. The preferred people are housewives who stay home and retired people, all of whom watch a lot of television. They can be more easily swayed by emotional arguments than by logic and reason.

The preferred person to stay away from on juries? An engineer. They tend to think logically and can sway a jury by relying on the evidence.

This does not mean that they will not consider engineers in some situations. For instance, if the evidence is very small, then an engineer is an excellent jurist, since he would tend to shy away from a guilty verdict based only on emotion.


Game Theory


The problem is not "Rational Choice Theory" itself. Rather it's the unscientific method by which come "Rational Choice Theorist," hold classical economic theory priori as truth. Assumptions which when put to the test, fail on empirical grounds.

Humans make rational decision, but as Dan Ariel, points out in Predictably Irrational, humans perceive value, for an example, not as a fixed quantity but rather as a relative quantity.

ie, you might travel five miles to save $15 on a $18 pen, but you wouldn't travel five miles to save $15 on a $1000 suite.

when I look at the last year, and the last few weeks. I don't see irrationality taking hold of markets... I see individuals making rational decision constrained by everyone else's derision.

in other words... what we are seeing in the market is game theory in effect.

Another way of looking at credit markets seeing up is to think of the
Nash equilibrium. Only by getting all the players together, and reaching a mutually beneficial outcome, can you break the deadlock.


45caliber - If you're a defense attorney
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...and your client is accused of a non-violent "victemless" crime (a drug offense, tax evasion, BATFE firearms charges, and the like), your voire dire should include a question designed to determine if a venireman knows what the initials "FIJA" stand for.

That's one you definitely want empaneled.





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"[Y]ou can help ... to return this country to the rule of law by remembering your 1000-year-old right and duty, when called upon to be a juror, to judge the law, as well as the facts of the case or the instructions of the judge. If it doesn't match your understanding of the Bill of Rights, the law must be discarded."

-- Aaron Zelman, L. Neil Smith; *Hope* (2001)
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