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Tuesday, March 20, 2007
Jack Kemp :: Townhall.com Columnist
Give D.C. residents the right to vote
by Jack Kemp
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How's this for irony: Headlines recently proclaimed that the White House was opposed to giving the vote to the more than 600,000 residents of our nation's capital, who, incidentally, are paying federal income taxes to send members of their families to Iraq and Afghanistan so as to guarantee the right to vote for the residents of those nations' capitals.

Even as the Judiciary Committee of the House of Representatives was passing the bill, co-sponsored by Reps. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C., and Tom Davis, R-Va., a spokesman for President Bush was saying the bill is unconstitutional without showing a modicum of sympathy or even a modest understanding of this irony.

The White House spokesman is putting the president in the position of outspoken opposition to expanding the democratic ideal here in the nation's capital, while simultaneously the White House argues the president has the constitutional authority to defend freedom and extend democratic rights to the people of Baghdad and Kabul.

I wrote last May: "Throughout our nation's history, District of Columbia citizens have given the full measure of their allegiance to the United States. They have fought in and died in every war in which the United States was engaged, they have paid billions in taxes, and they have provided labor and resources to the U.S. economy and government. Yet for 200 years, district residents have been bystanders in the governance of their nation."

With regard to the constitutional arguments, one of the leading conservative lights in the House of Representatives, Mike Pence of Indiana, recently wrote, "Opponents of D.C. voting understandably cite the plain language of Article I that the House of Representatives be comprised of representatives elected by 'the people of the several states.' If this were the only reference to the powers associated with the federal city, it would be most persuasive, but it is not. Article I, Section 8, Cl. 17 provides, 'The Congress shall have power ... to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever' over the District of Columbia."

Pence courageously and wisely voted yes against White House wishes and, sadly, those of the GOP leadership.

In 1984, Justice Antonin Scalia observed that the Seat of Government Clause of the Constitution gives Congress "extraordinary and plenary" power over our nation's capital. Scalia added that this provision of the Constitution "enables Congress to do many things in the District of Columbia which it has no authority to do in the 50 states ... There has never been any rule of law that Congress must treat people in the District of Columbia exactly the same as people are treated in various states." United States v. Cohen, 733 F.2d 128, 140 (D.C. Cir. 1984).

Chief Justice John Marshall acknowledged in the early 19th century that "It is extraordinary that the courts of the United States, which are open to aliens, and to the citizens of every state in the union, should be closed upon (district citizens)." But, he explained, "This is a subject for legislative, not for judicial consideration."

Marshall thereby laid out the blueprint by which Congress, rather than the courts, could treat the district as a state under the Constitution for the purposes of enfranchisement.

Neither I, nor Tom Davis nor Mike Pence, is arguing for the District of Columbia to become a state. Indeed, from the inception of our nation the founders believed the House of Representatives was the House of the people. I believe passionately that the architects of the American Constitution left us the tools to ensure that all American people should have a voice and vote in the "people's house."

I'm troubled by people in the White House who show compassion for the people of Baghdad and Kabul, as they should, but can't find it in their hearts to show anything but indifference to the cries for justice in the nation's capital.

What these presidential advisers are doing is rigidly interpreting the Constitution in such a way as to make the Party of Lincoln into a party that condemns the people of our nation's capital, including four of my 17 grandchildren, from ever participating in the great issues of the day as debated and decided in the House of Representatives.

Indeed, this is taxation without representation.

Republicans have historically supported civil, human and voting rights, including the passage of the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. We have a great history of bipartisan support for civil rights, but it was our presidential candidate in 1964 who refused to take a stand for civil and social justice for African-Americans.

My question is, does this president want to continue the legacy of Lincoln, Grant and Eisenhower, or that of Barry Goldwater in 1964?

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WHAT VOTE?
To say that DC residents are taxed without representation is not quite the truth. They all have the right to vote, just as all Americans do, in a Presidential Election.

I do agree that they should be allowed to elect a representative just as other Reps are elected. Hang on, don't they already have that? Maybe I am mistaken but I thought they had a Rep, of course that position is non-voting in Congress, and therefore powerless.

It would seem to make more sense to just have them become part of Maryland, DC is really not big enough in size or population to warrant any more than that.

No, no, we have to keep the City of Liars special, an Entity of the Congress of the USA.

So here's to the District of Columbians' suffrage. Cheers.


Another greasy politician
who believes the Constitution is rubber. This one is a Demo with an (R) after his name.

I have long had a solution to this whole issue:

1. Move the capital to some place in the mid-west near the geographic center of CONUS.
2. Create a federal zone app 1 mile in diameter.
3. Place all federal buildings inside this zone.
4. Make it illegal to have a pemanent residence inside this zone.
5. Return the City of Washington DC to its orignal State boundaries (VA & MD).

Agree with Vic...
...The reason that Washington exists at all was because during the Revolution Pennsylvania and Philadelphia,pulled all thier troops out of the city when it was threatend by invasion,and they never even told the Continental Congress that was meeting there what they were doing.The members of the Congress had to run for their lives.They vowed that in the future,Congress would have complete control over their safety and not have to rely on a state for their protection.

Consequently,when,twenty years later,they were writing a new Constitution,they accepted land donated by Maryland and Virgina and established a capitol,with CONGRESS in charge,and Congress is still in charge.They even have a commitee that governs the City.Scalia was absolutely right.If the citizens want to vote,they can move a mile in any direction and vote in Maryland or Virgina.And the moron Kemp put down of Barry Goldwater is contemptous.

Easy way to get vote for DC residents
If DC residents want to elect a Congressman, they should move to Prince George's county. It could only help our nation's capital, seat of our nation's most beautiful monuments, rid itself of the constant horror of violent crime with which it is afflicted. And once the crack dealers and gang bangers move out, the District could be inhabited by the hard working government employees who are presently forced to commute from distant suburbs.

Nick Kasoff
The Thug Report
http://www.thugreport.com

DC Voting Notes
A few brief comments, for what it's worth.

1. Would DC statehood lead to a torrent of state separations? Could Maryland's conservative Eastern Shore (where I live) ask for statehood? Or Michigan's Upper Peninsula? When admitted to the Union, Texas did so with the understanding that it could become five states. Are we ready for a West Texas, South Texas, East Texas, North Texas and Central Texas? Might California become three states, as has been paried about?

2. Anybody else have the impression that Jack Kemp wishes he had been born African-American rather than Caucasian? I've never known any conservative with as much "white guilt" as Rep. Kemp.

3. If the House size is raised to 437, could the size of the House in general be radically raised? It has been stuck at 435 since the US had 100 million people; now we have 300 million and the District population size is over 600,000. Would a House of 650 members (the size of the House of Commons in the UK- population 60 million) be more appropriate? Would it be too unruly? Could we limit staffs of House members so the cost of running the House doesn't go up?

4. Apropos to nkassof's thoughts, as a former c itizen of Prince George's County, I can vouch that PG county has been inundated with former citizens of DC with a corresponding rise in crime and other social dysfunctions. Prince George's County is a classic "white flight" jurisdiction, one of the first to experience "white flight" from an affluent suburban county rather than the more typical "white flight" from an inner city like Detroit, Newark and Gary.

Kemp for Prez!
Once again, Jack Kemp is sensible and an honest thinker. And ABOVE REPUBLICANISM, THANK GOD.

Sorry
If Jack Kemp ran for president, I think he would spend most of his time apologizing for having once been considered a conservative. And to think that I voted for him in the 1988 Republican primaries.

Jack's a nice man but he proved what sort of man he was when, after retiring from the House, he didn't go back home. To be fair, he's not the only Republican who refused to go back home. Others who stayed behind in the Washington cesspool- Bob Dole, Vin Weber, Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, Michael Oxley, JC Watts, Steve Largent and many, many more. Pretty sad, actually, preferring to live in a fake city rather than the place you once represented.

The US is a federation of states
I don't know where Kemp is coming from, but DC is not a state and not in a position to be one. If this matter is to be resolved, it would seem fairly straight forward to contract the District to a small area of National Monuments and the major government buildings and remove the residential areas to one of the bordering states. Maryland comes to mind, though I can think of a lot of reasons why Maryland might object. None-the-less, it would keep the constitution intact and get the current DC residents into voting districts.

About Time!
It is quite ironic how the Bush Administration wants to spread democracy around the world, but refuses to acknowledge the almost 600,000 residents of the District of Columbia. To those who seek to use “white guilt” to explain Mr. Kemp’s opinion, STOP IT. Leave the race card alone. Also to those who say D.C. is full of criminals, malfeasants, and drug dealers, please explain areas such as the Palisades, Capital Hill, Georgetown, Adams Morgan, Friendship Heights, Brookland, and U Street which are racially and economically mixed. These areas also have very low crime figures and very high property values. Yet, people expect these law abiding citizens to leave their homes/businesses/communities and move out to the suburbs. Speaking of PG County, please stop the inaccurate portrayals. In fact, PG County is one of the richest county’s in the US. With a high population of white collar professionals, PG County has seen a unexpected growth not from “White Flight” of the 1950s, but from the “Black Flight of the 1970s and 1980s. PG County has gone from mostly farmland and blue-collar neighborhoods to affluent neighborhoods and Starbucks throughout every area of the county. Amazing we love to underestimate, undervalue, and marginalize our fellow citizens!

Facts And Figures
Military Service: DC’s daughters and sons fight and die for America defending freedom and democracy but have no vote when Congress votes to send them to war.


Federal Taxes: People living in DC pay the second highest per capita federal income taxes in the country but have no vote on how the federal government spends their money. If Washington, D.C. were a state, it would rank last in area behind Rhode Island, 50th in population ahead of Wyoming, first in population density ahead of New Jersey, and 35th in Gross State Product

Voting Rights: Concerned American citizens living in our nation’s capital have no vote on important issues affecting nearly every aspect of their daily lives including: health care, Social Security, environmental protection, crime control, public safety and foreign policy. In fact, DC Residents were not able to vote for President until The Twenty-third Amendment to the United States Constitution was ratified on March 29, 1961, allowing residents of Washington, D.C. to vote for president and have their votes count in the Electoral College as long as Washington, D.C. does not have more electoral votes than the least populous state. Also, DC Residents were not allowed to have their own local democratically elected representation until 1973 when Congress enacted the District of Columbia Self-Rule and Governmental Reorganization Act, providing for an elected mayor and city council for the District

Education: Parents, teachers and community leaders have no vote when it comes to shaping national educational policies and academic standards.

Economy and Business: DC’s business owners and workers are denied a vote in determining how Congress regulates business policy and the economy.

Law: Local laws passed by locally elected officials are routinely overruled by members of Congress pursuing their own personal agendas without regard for the welfare of DC residents.

Since they have never had
voting representation in DC, other than to vote for President, they can not be said to be taxed without representation. They can move, as no one has held a gun to their heads and told them to live in the cesspool. It makes more sense to carve out the Federal area of monuments and Federal buildings and remove all permenant residences from the Federal area and give the rest back to MD (VA already got back their part, Arlington). I know MD wouldn't like all those welfare poodle, but they get Georgetown as well to offset the poorer residents in SE.

It is very plain that congress does not do a good job of administering DC in any case as it is simply a play thing for experiments in lunacy.

Even though I live only 12 miles from DC, I have not driven into the city in many years and use Metro to get to Caps hockey games occasionaly. Other than that, I have no need to enter DC anymore. Having worked in DC on and off, I'll stay off for now thankyou very much!

DC right to vote
Why not dig up the old state boundaries of Maryland and Virginia, before they ceded the land for DC, and allow the the residents to vote in the respective States for Congress, Senate, & the President?

This way the residents get to vote (as they should) and the Congressional make-up isn't changed. Also this gives further strength to the notion that the District of Columbia is not some real political entity but a place where people decided to live to be close to work.

Give D.C. residents the right to vote
Why not dig up the original state boundaries for Maryland and Virginia and then let people vote in the respective states where their residences lie?

This way the DC residents get to vote, as they should, and the make-up of Congress isn't changed.

Also this would help dispel the notion that the District of Columbia is a political entity and not just a neutral plot of land where the seat of government is located which was the intent.

Washington, DC vote
The citizens of Washington, DC should vote as a resident of Maryland. Period.

What?
I don't know where Jack Kemp is coming from here. If the residents of D.C. want to vote in Congressional elections, they can simply move to a Congressional district. The District of Columbia is not one, and Mr. Kemp offers no compelling reason for it to become one.

His "but it's just not fair" argument is the type of soft-hearted, soft-headed half-thought we normally see from Liberals.

Best possible solution
The founders, of course, never expected the D.C. to be a city of 600,000 men,women and children. Rather, a small government might need a few hundred or even several thousand. Many would be temporary residents who would serve until political party control shifted.

Now it is almost half as populous as greater San Juan in Puerto Rico, where four million citizens have no vote for U.S. Senators and deserve six representatives, if allowed to be a State; or perhaps like D.C., a special case.

The founders never dreamed of our elaborate computer designed legislative district boundaries either! Why not use this technique to give all legislative districts in the U.S. an automatic extension to include all who live in D.C. and wish to claim connection to any one, but only one, of them? Bingo! Congress keeps control to avoid the idea of party control moving many in or out to change the political control of the District. It keeps its control but lets the folks vote with equal power somewhere to be able to claim taxation with representation.

D.C. Vote
?It seems that Mr. Kent, although an astute politician, or should be by now does not recognize the reasoning that disenfranchised D.C. residents. It was assumed at the nations creation that only government employees would live in D.C. and should have no voce in perpetuating their employer in office. A great and noble idea, and one that deserves our consideration. It would correct a bunch of monumental problems. In line with our founders reasoning I am sure many of the problems of government would be corrected if those people who are totally supported by government were not allowed to vote for those who are able to grant their so-called-democratic entitlements. Total dependence on government, whether by salary or welfare should be a disqualification to vote for those who provide the largess.

Jesse
Agreed. And after reading on Drudge that 1/3rd of ALL DC residents are ILLITERATE, I am scared that Kemp would even SUGGEST that jokingly!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8NVBUV81&show_article=1

They ALREADY vote overwhelmingly for the Dhimmicrats who give them handout after handout.

Wow!
The National Voting Rights Act of 1965, Should we go back to the days of a poll tax, estimating the number of bubbles in a bar of soap. Or better yet, a literacy test? Check the Voting Rights Act of 1965. What you are saying is ignorant and illegal. Also handouts?
The vast majority of District residents do not receive public assistance. Unlike most urban areas, the District does not have a vast amount of public housing. Try to rely more on facts and less on stereotypes.

Sorry Jack - you are off on this one
First off this article is poorly written to imply that the citizens are not allowed to vote. Instead they are limited in having their own representative in Congress. They are not entitled to one. The Constitution says so and for good reason.

DC is not a state. Its people did not establish a state, set up a government or assume the responsibilites of a state.

Even today they do not self govern responsibly (they suck funds off the rest of us), the do not educate their kids (1/3 functionally illiterate despite being among the highest spending per child), and they do not even maintain their land and roads (federal money pays for and maintains the lions share of the land). They do not function as a state.

Giving representation to the district is merely empowering a governmental unit with more governmental power. That is not conservative Jack.

Please reconsider

The best solution to this issue
is not to give the federal district equal status with the several states but to return all of it except only that portion which composes government offices to Maryland. This would return to the residents of this district full voting rights without requiring a change to our constitution.

This also would satisfy the desire that that city be given home rule, which is also barred in the present form.

To grant them a full voice as a separate (pseudo)state would also require that they be given two Senators, equal to the voice of all the people of Califorinia, Texas, or New York, as well as smaller legitimate states.

By the way I also think Puerto Rico should be encouraged to take up its rightful place as a state. Yet, even though their political status is essentially identical with the DC, we do not see the politicians attempting to force the other states to grant them voting rights in our Legislature without the responsibilities of statehood.

And also by the way, these states' responsibilities are not the responsibilities of the individuals but of their governments.

Ignorance
You all truly amaze me. Get the facts straight and stop relying on stereotypes. I know it is easier to believe rather than to think. Yet, let's try and focus people.

First off, Unlike U.S. territories today (such as American Samoa, Puerto Rico, and Guam), citizens of the District of Columbia are fully taxed and subject to all U.S. laws, just as the citizens of the fifty states. The other current examples are also different from D.C. in that Washington has been an integral part of the U.S. for 200 years and still lacks representation in Congress. Furthermore, unlike modern U.S. territories, Washington D.C. is subject to all federal laws, including tax laws, and pays a higher than average tax per capita, although unrepresented in the national legislature

Secondly, DC is unfairly burdened with running a prison system and a Department of Motor Vehicles. Contrary to popular belief, DC residents are forced to pay for all roadwork/construction. D.C. residents pay federal taxes, such as income tax, as well as local taxes. The mayor and council are forced to adopt a budget of local money with Congress reserving the right to make any changes. Much of the valuable property in the District is federally owned and hence exempt from local property taxes; at the same time, the city is burdened with the extraordinary expenses related to its role as the capital, such as police overtime and street cleaning for D.C.'s frequent parades and festivals. These factors are often used to explain why the city's budget is frequently overstretched.

Thirdly, A 2007 report found that approximately one third of the population in Washington, D.C. is functionally illiterate, compared to a rate of about one fifth nationally. One of the primary reasons attributed to this is the growing number of Hispanic and Ethiopian immigrants in the city that are not proficient in English.These residents are not products of the public school system.

DC voters
I just remembered--aren't these the same people who voted Marion Barry into office AFTER he'd been caught on tape smoking crack? Now we should give them the chance to make him a Congressman?

I realize that this isn't an intellectual point, but when I thought of it, I just had to laugh. I suppose, if the people of Massachusetts can keep sending The Swimmer to Washington, why not The Smoker?

Speaking of Mayor Barru
Guess people didn't realize that Marion Barry has a Master's Degree In Chemistry. Ironic isn't it. Maybe we should strip the voting rights away from states like Alabama, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Mississippi, Texas, Tennessee, Louisiana,West Virginia, and Kentucky? We all know that these citizens not so long ago voted strict segregationists into the House of Representatives and the Senate. Sarcastic, but true.

your idea: ricp- great!!!
i like the idea of going back to the original state lines for voting purposes. I do NOT like the idea of a permanent liberal bastion with all the privileges of statehood. Professional politicians are our problem now!

Snake oil
Many posters on this issue have pointed out the logical solution to D.C.: let them vote as residents of Maryland or Virginia.

SamT apparently agrees but also writes, "Maryland comes to mind, though I can think of a lot of reasons why Maryland might object." Why would they object?

Residence determines where someone votes.

This issue has been politicized by some as an attempting to create a new state through extra-legal means.

The city of Texarkana straddles the Texas/Arkansas state line but it's citizens vote in the state where they live. It's not rocket science. Their addresses reflect which side of the state line they live on.

This is a non-issue (except to the snake-oil salesmen).

Recipe for Conservative Demise
So Mr. Enterprise Zone thinks that DC voting rights are a good thing. I guess that should come as no surprise since he also believes in open borders and enfranchising the 3rd World invasion force currently deployed within our borders. RINO's such as Mr. Kemp seemed determined to figure out new ways for conservatives and the Republican party to commit suicide.

Taxation without representation?
Kemp mentions taxation without representation as another reason to give D.C. voting rights. I wonder if he felt this way when he was casting votes over Social Security but not participating in its system.




To Mr. Kemp
After almost a full day of commenting, I guess you can see that you are being thoroughly vilified. But I guess that was to be expected as you can’t get reelected by run-of-the-mil Repubs, much less true conservatives. As they are saying on the other thread running concurrent with this one, its 27-7 in the 5th inning and the 12 run slaughter rule is in effect. If you are monitoring this column you should contact TH and have them pull it to prevent too much embarrassment.

I've always believed..
...that the Constitution should be STRICTLY interpreted. Mr. Kemp seems to have a personal issue. I would suggest to his four grandchildren...get the hell out of Wash., D.C.

other thread
Vic,

what other thread?

Thanks,

PBN505

Kemp is like Freddy from Friday the 13th
he keeps coming back an opening his stupid trap.

Retire and go away already, we don't care about your bloated government opinions or all your grandkids that live in our nation's capital sucking the public teat.

Oh ya over 1/3 of Washington DC is functionally illiterate and foreign & welfare numbers are even higher, we need a poll tax, not more parasite immigrant voters.

Mr. Kemp
I would like to applaud you for your courage. Contrary to the others who have opined, I have lived in DC all my life. I know what is going on firsthand. Please ignore the loud and ignorant majority who seem to have let their own partisan and xenophobic agendas cloud any hope for clear and rational thinking. Thank you for standing up for what is right in this particular situation. Thank you for being a man of conscience instead of a conservative without acumen.

Go the other way
If taxation without representation is the real problem for these people, we could always go back to leaving them off the tax rolls. I would support this so long as they are also removed from all of the benefits that taxation provides, such as welfare, social security, federal funding for schools and healthcare programs, etc...

Anybody want to try running that one past Eleanor Holmes Norton?

I live less than 2 miles from the District line and I live here for one simple reason. I chose to retain my right to vote when I moved to the DC area. Anyone living in DC can do regain that right by moving less than 5 miles. There is no reason to put a city of 600,000 people on the same par as the state of California in the Senate just because Jack Kemp's grandkids are idiots.

DC
My approach, not requiring a constitutional amendment, would be for Congress to cede back to Maryland all of DC save the Mall and across the street from the Capitol Building (to take in the Supreme Court). The entire district would consist of the museum, monuments, the Court, Capital Dome, and the White House. Why should Treasury or the FBI need be in the district anymore than the Pentagon or CIA?

Henceforth all of the residents would be voting members of MD and all would be as it should be. The DC police would cease to be federal and be under the jurisdiction of the State of Maryland as are the Baltimore PD.

Sentimental pablum
> I'm troubled by people in the White House who show compassion for the people of Baghdad and Kabul, as they should, but can't find it in their hearts to show anything but indifference to the cries for justice in the nation's capital. <

That's an overboard anology, don't you think?

At any rate, forget the emotion and look at the facts. We are supposed to be a nation of a Constitution and laws. Let's try following them (Lord knows that would be nice in so many other areas as well.)

If you want to advocate changing those, of course you have that right. But, those rules were laid out *centuries ago*. NEVER in the history of the U.S. have D.C. residents been able to vote in the manner described. Realize that you are taking a radical -- yes, radical -- position, and tear-jerking sophistry doesn't sway most people (outside Hollywood).

In general, reminds me the Dems whining about Gore "winning the popular vote". SO WHAT?? NEVER in the history of the U.S. has the popular vote ever selected the president directly.

DC
Washington DC was meant to be the capital of the country not a functioning part of it as were the individual states. It was and still is the states that actually fuel the country with DC simply housing the institutions of government.

The District was specificaly set aside so that no individual state could lay claim to housing the federal government.

The city, I don't think, was ever meant to grow into what it has now become. I believe it was intended that the people living there would for the most part, be directly related to the political machinery governing the country.

Lets leave DC fly a Muslim Flag
The State of Adult Literacy Report, scheduled to be delivered to the mayor and
D.C. Council members today, found that nearly 36 percent, or 170,000, of the
District's residents are functionally illiterate.

Is it any wonder that the totally dysfunctional Mayor Berry was voted in year after year.
Minneapolis inner city just voted in a Louis Farrakan type Muslim to Congress.

These illiterates Vote. In some wards the rate is 50 %

We likely will have a Muslim Capitol. There is but one district.

The Muslims said they would fly their flag in the Capitol.

If we let these people vote which is unconstitutional in any case we will succumb to terror.

DC VOTING
There is precedent for giving DC back to Maryland. In 1847, the Federal Government ceded the 39 square miles that had come from Virginia(current Arlington County and the City of Alexandria)on the grounds that the Federal Government would never need it.

Why not cede the remainder back to Maryland? This way the people could vote for Senators and Congressmen as Marylanders. The Federal Government could retain jurisdiction over its own property much in the way it does on military bases and in national parks.

The alternative would be to eliminate all Federal taxes on DC residents. That would spur all kinds of economic growth in Washington, DC.

PG County- For the Record
Although Prince George's County has a plentitude of white collar workers, that is due largely that so many of its people "work" as government bureaucrats or school teachers. Bureaucrats are the parasites of society and most could not thrive in the private economy. As for PG County school teachers, their ability is reflected in the very low test scores of the county's children, scores as almost as low as those of Baltimore City's.

I lived in PG County from 1960-1991 and have seen it decline. Although there is affluence due to the easy government "jobs" that so many PG County residents have, the county has a run down look. Malls, like Landover Mall, have been shuttered. Top-of-the-line stores do not locate there. Fine dining is nowhere to be had in PG County unless Friday's, Burger King or Applebee's is what you consider fine dining. PG County may be the top suburban county in the nation in murders and violent crime. An example of the violence in PG County was the drive-by murder in my old hometown of Lanham just days ago. This sort of activity never happened when I was growing up in PG County.
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