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Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Hugh Hewitt :: Townhall.com Columnist
Roger Goodell and the New McCarthyism
by Hugh Hewitt
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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was asked Tuesday about the possibility of Rush Limbaugh acquiring a piece of the NFL's St. Louis Rams, and responded:

"I've said many times before we're all held to a high standard here, and I think divisive comments are not what the NFL is all about. I would not want to see those comments coming from people who are in a responsible position in the NFL, absolutely not."

Goodell has not yet held up his hand and proclaimed that he is holding within it a list of conservative pundits who cannot be allowed to continue to attend NFL games, but check in next week. It is classic McCarthyism to use unspecified charges of political wrongdoing to blacklist an individual, and that's what Goodell did yesterday.

It was also a very divisive statement, so by his own standard, I guess Goodell will be turning in his resignation.

Goodell's decision to throw the NFL into the middle of the left-right debate in the country --and to do so solidly on the side of the left-- must have surprised his owner-employers who last I looked will gladly sell tickets to conservatives. I myself have owned season tickets to the hapless Browns since the franchise returned to Cleveland, and long before that I attended every home game on my dad's nickel from 1965 to 1974. No one talked politics at those games. The NFL was, and until recently had remained, a politics free zone which provided a common ground all football fans regardless of their political ideology.

I covered the subject on my radio program for almost all of my three hours yesterday, and great numbers of long time NFL fans are incensed. They believe Rush has been unfairly slandered by much of the commentary around him, and yesterday's MSNBC appearance by Professor Karen Hunter of Hunter College in New York took Rush-bashing to a new low. Hunter bluntly declared that Rush Limbaugh had endorsed a posthumous Medal of Honor for Martin Luther King assassin James Earl Ray --a ludicrous defamation that went completely unchallenged by the anchor. What can you say about such reckless and reprehensible hate speech, except that it not be welcomed on any cable network, much less NBC. That so poisonous an environment around Rush exists as to allow such a malicious fabrication to pass unchallenged should have warned Goodell not to credit the feverish assertions of the anti-Rush mob.

The Hunter fantasy was preceded the night before by a Chris Matthews fantasy about watching Rush be blown up, ala a villain in a Bond movie. Nice work on that front as well, but that's just MSNBC. The network is not selling to the entire spectrum of America, but to its fringe left. The NFL on the other hand needs center-right conservatives to buy tickets, jerseys, and NFL television packages.

What percentage of Dallas Cowboy fans do you think are conservative? 60% 75? 90%.

Do you think owner Jerry Jones is happy with the Commish? How about every other NFL owner who ever hopes to get a public subsidy for the new stadium approved by voters down the road? Roger Goodell is entitled to be a fan of every hard left politician in America, and I wouldn't care if he did a good job as commissioner, but his lurch into the role of thought police was a terrible error, especially as it was completely divorced from any detailed statement of fact.

Now the NFL is in the swamp, and it will have to find its way out. You don't have to be a listener to Rush to see the hatchet job being done to him, to resent it, and to wonder what the next manifestation will be of the new McCarthyism. Indeed, fans of free speech generally should be as outraged as conservatives. I expect the children of Hollywood's long-ago blacklist victims to sign a petition and demand that the Commissioner renounce this sort of character assassination and workplace exclusion.

If Rush and his partners have the best bid for the most money, they should become the owners of the Rams --it is that simple.

But if he is blocked, I hope Rush sponsors a NASCAR car and the NFL owners watch it quickly become the most popular car every Sunday.

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JOHN PA

.....RUSH has been unfairly stereotyped as a racist by the Left since he got on the air ...

.....I think RUSH has a right to defend himself against this foul slander ...all he has ever said about blacks is that they should be treated just like everyone else ...

.....It is the Left that wants to treat Blacks as a victim class and thus a tool of class warfare ...

.....I listen to RUSH every day to get an honest Conservative opinion ...I had never heard him utter a racist remark ...I think that if the Left actually listened to his program they would be surprised at how many blacks call his show to agree with him .....COLOSSUS

A good sign
A good sign that Hewitt knows that he is spouting nonsense is that he pretended not to know that Goodell was responding primarily to Limbaugh's braindead comment on Monday Night Football that Donovan McNabb's reputation was based on the fact that the NFL wants a black man to succeed at quarterback.

Maybe Hewett really doesn't know it, and none of his callers during a 3 hour show pointed it out to him, but that just shows that Hewitt and his callers are too unbothered by racist idiocy.

Maybe Limbaugh was not stupid enough to believe that comment and was just saying what he figured would do most to goose his ratings. But why would the NFL want an owner who is willing to fan the flames of racism in order to goose his ratings?

McCarthy had a fictional list of communists at the state department which was hid as a secret. Goodell was responding to a remark made by Limbaugh on national tv on a highly rated show. It is somewhat difficult to see the similarities there.

"Divisive Comments"
If "divisive comments" is the standard, then why does Mr. Goodell allow Keith Olbermann to be a commentator on Sunday night football on NBC. It seems Mr. Goodell only sees "divisive" on the right.

Lolo1 & John in PA
Lolo1:

I'm with Georgetwin: WE'VE MISSED YOU! Good to see you back again.

As I recall, some months ago, you were looking at relocating from California. Has anything happened in that regard - if you don't mind talking about it, that is?

lilly is just as clueless about the dynamics of pro sports as she is about pretty much everything ELSE.

John in PA:

As I said before, I don't think the headaches of being a pro-sports franchise owner, even totally ignoring the ALLEGED issues Rush Limbaugh brings to the table, are worth it.

But Georgetwin made an EXCELLENT point. If Rush Limbaugh is such a racist, then he has to be the STUPIDEST racist ever seen on this earth up to now if he would consider buying into a business of which 70% of its employees are part of a segment of the population he supposedly despises that he would have to be paying MILLIONS of dollars to. I wish someone would show ME that kind of "racism"! I'll bet YOU do, too!

I'm not necessarily disputing your point that Rush IS despised in the black community. But YOU'RE ignoring ANOTHER reality that is ALSO true in the black community, a reality so pervasive that young blacks are willing to risk their lives for potentially big bucks in the drug trade or other criminal enterprises: MONEY TALKS! And Rush's will talk PLENTY loud enough even to blacks: you can COUNT on it.

JOHN PA

.....Maybe the vast amount of black people are mistaken ...don't you think that RUSH has a right to try to change that perception? ...

.....BTW ...my opinion matters as much as yours does .....COLOSSUS

Rush
Everyone who doesn't want Rush in the NFL keeps saying things like goodell said, "divisive statements"... but the only so called divisive statements I've heard in the media are SLANDEROUS NONQUOTES, things the media CLAIM Rush said but that were NOT checked, and which Rush most certainly did NOT say... then others, like Goodell, come along and ride the wave of the media slander without naming the quotes... so they're not guilty in the same way the media is guilty of slander.. and yet, the defamation continues.

every time Rush is held to have made 'divisive statements', every reporter or member of the public should shout out "NAME ONE!!!"

And either they will be FABRICATIONS or else there will be no answer.

Standhisground
Your position seems to be well grounded but you gotta admit that blacks in general seem to have a knack for putting their politics above their self interest. :)

JOHN PA

.....A vast amount of Blacks think that the Democrat Party is looking out for their best interests ...they are wrong about that too .....COLOSSUS

Standshisground

You are not clued into the reality at all.

The athletes in question will have other, very very remunerative options. Free agents play the market, and the difference between bids is very rarely that significant. And the social approbation from other athletes would be a powerful force.

But that is only a part of teh dilemma. The league would have to deal with its fans and the league will have to deal with a constant barrage of racial and political invective. That is NOT the environment the league wants. Their decision makes sense.

As for Limbaugh, I agree his effort is stupid. He was dumped before for his racial attitudes. Now he is getting humiliated again. He loves teh NFL and wants to be part of it, but the way he made his fortune makes it unlikely he will ever get in teh door.

Just as an aside, I have nothing positive to say about the NFL in general or its players. In a year or so the results of head injury studies are going to fundamentally alter football at every level.

BBD
If Limbaugh wants to change the perception others have of him, he will have to do it on his radio show.

If he wants in to teh NFL, he best get started.

hail to the chief
What the hell has happened to America? Now a private investor is blackballed from making an investment? If Al Sharpton, or Jesse Jackson was making the same investment, not a word would be said. Welcome to the new color of shame. White is the minority.

The funny part of this
is that Jim Irsay, the son of "blow out of Baltimore in the middle of the night" king, opposes Limbaugh as an owner! I guess that what his family did to the City of Baltimore was OK, but a radio host owning an NFL team?! Preposterous!

John in PA - sorry dude, it's always about the money in pro sports! It is a proven fact that whether they are white, brown, black, pink of green, professional athletes will sign with the team that offers the most money, for the longest time! The classic example; the NY Yankees!

Bruce
AS I said, you are underestimating the degree to which Limbaugh is despised by teh black community.

ANd you still have to account for the inevitable, constant, deabte on the issue. If you were an owner, you'd vote against him too.

John in Pa.
So do you approve or disapprove of the NFL "blackballing" persons for divisive political comments?

Both the anti-Limbaugh and anti-Ohlberman crowd and those offended by the recent statements of the players on both sides of the issue await your response.

Rick in TX
You're right to a fair degree about blacks putting their politics above their self-interest, but a lot who do are people who ALREADY have relatively little - and therefore relatively little at stake. A welfare mother in the ghetto is probably not even AWARE of the potential ramifications for her life regarding whether she votes for a candidate of one party vs. voting for the candidate of the other.

It's different for those like black pro athletes who have MILLIONS at stake - and statistically, a fairly short window of opportunity in which to MAKE those millions (I think the average career in pro sports is only around 4 years, if it's even THAT long). If a black athlete is faced with the choice of playing for a team owned or co-owned by Rush Limbaugh or working a regular 9-to-5 job, the social approbation from other blacks that John in PA spoke of will NOT keep him from working for Rush's team, and certainly not if Rush is going to throw millions of dollars at him. That social approbation will NOT lead him to leave millions of dollars on the table just to make a political or racial statement.

During his playing days, Bill Russell of the Boston Celtics was quite open about how much he hated white people. It didn't stop him from accepting the money of the white ownership of the Celtics to play for them - or, as it turned out, eventually marrying a white woman.

Racism?
Donovan is a good man. He has been one of the top 5 or 10 QBs every year. I have the utmost respect for him. But sometimes he doesn't do well in the big games and throws at the receivers feet. But the media (mostly national) has been PC singing his praizes even when it is not warrented. That is all Rush was trying to point out. I have been an Eagles fan for 50 years (untill Vick). I have also listened to Rush for 20 years and I too have never heard a racist comment. PC diversity strikes again.

SHG
DOn't be daft.

The issue is not going to be playing for a Rush Limbaugh or working at Target. The issue is going to be playing for Rush LImbaugh or making 5% less to play for Jeffrey Lurie in Philadelphia.

You will never grasp the situation if you create completely unrealistic scenarios to prove your point.

John in Pa.
Will the NFL capitulate to the demands of "70%" of its workforce if it means offending 50% of its market?

New Name
It looks like Roger Goodell is being coerced into changing the NFL to the National Political Correctness League. Further evidence of the "tolerance" of the left.

Rick

WHether I approve or not is completely irrelevant. I have virtually no interest in football, having seen its negative effects on any number of levels. (When the head injury data becomes widely known, more people will begin to agree with me.)

WHat matters is that the NFL owners do not want to deal with the fallout from having Limbaugh join them. The owners tend to be very conservative, except when they feed at the public trough to build new stadia, and probably agree with LImbaugh on most things. If you were an owner, you would agree with them.

This is a BUSINESS decision. Or shouldn't
they be allowed to run their business as they see fit?

More on the economics
I would submit that if anywhere close to 50% of luxury suite owners and season ticket holders wrote letters threatening to cancel if Goodell blackballs Limbaugh, he would be GIVEN a team and allowed march at haltime carrying a confederate battle flag.

Rick
Get Real.

If the bring in Limbaugh they have to deal with all these issues on a daily basis. It will never blow over.

If they don't bring in Limbaugh, it MIGHT be an issue for a few days.

Rick
Fantasize away, if it makes you happy. Your hypothetical means nothing.

the speech nazis are coming--here
If this is what the NFL is about, slander, libel, and speech control, it will be blacklisted from my television and bank account.

Sorry John
but, you don't know me. I own my own business and employ 28 people. I would no more deny the ownership of a legitimate business enterprise to anyone qualified to own one than I would deny a job to someone because of their political views! That's absurd! America was built by people like me that took and maintains all of the risks involved with investing in an idea that they believed in to provide a better life for themselves and their families, as well as the families of others. Read; their employees!

I take it that you are a black man. When were you anointed the spokesperson for the "black community," whereby you can make such a statement about it? You could be speaking from your experience with your immediate environment, so that may be what you observe. Tell you what though; if you can get just two professional black athletes to corroborate your assertions that ownership means more than the money, I will admit my error.

By the way, I have four young black people working for me, who think that Rush is being unfairly railroaded. Two of them are convicted felons that received a second chance from, funny, a conservative white guy like Rush Limbaugh! But then, these fine young people are fiscally, personally responsible individuals and they dropped their victim mentality years ago!



John in Pa.
Your argument that the 70% of the players is "the NFL's biggest asset" is what is fantasy. It ignores history (See the strike) uppity players strike and the game moves on without them. The people who pay ungodly money to attend the games and those who sit through commercials to watch are the NFL's biggest asset, if by that you mean what they cannot live without. I am merely pointing out that allowing yourself to be suckered into taking gratuitous positions to mollify one political segment, i.e the players, will invariably offend someone else, some of the fans.

John in Pa.
Your argument that the 70% of the players is "the NFL's biggest asset" is what is fantasy. It ignores history (See the strike) uppity players strike and the game moves on without them. The people who pay ungodly money to attend the games and those who sit through commercials to watch are the NFL's biggest asset, if by that you mean what they cannot live without. I am merely pointing out that allowing yourself to be suckered into taking gratuitous positions to mollify one political segment, i.e the players, will invariably offend someone else, some of the fans. See pete's post above.

Bruce
You Write:

"if you can get just two professional black athletes to corroborate your assertions that ownership means more than the money, I will admit my error."

"New York Giants defensive end Mathias Kiwanuka(notes) would love to play again under Rams head coach Steve Spagnuolo, who was his defensive coordinator in New York, but Kiwanuka is saying that there is no way he would go play for St. Louis if Limbaugh takes over. New York Jets linebacker Bart Scott(notes) told the paper the same thing yesterday and it seems that it may be a general sentiment for a lot of black NFL players."

Do you admit your error?

John in PA
You said, "The issue is not going to be playing for a Rush Limbaugh or working at Target. The issue is going to be playing for Rush LImbaugh or making 5% less to play for Jeffrey Lurie in Philadelphia".

Not in all cases.

There are PLENTY of athletes, black ones included, playing in pro sports today who were unwanted by all but the team they're currently playing on. Admittedly, many (not necessarily ALL) of these are more fringe or role players, rather than superstars, who are earning the major-league minimum or not much above it.

But even given what the MINIMUM salaries are in the pro sports leagues these days (several hundred thousand dollars), and especially given the fact that it is the fringe or marginal or role players who are the closest to the edge as far as their staying power in pro sports, if such a player who happens to be black has the choice between playing pro sports for the only team willing to give him a contract - a Rush Limbaugh-owned team - for even the major-league minimum (we'll say, for the sake of argument, $500K) or earning $30K at Target, do you REALLY believe that even if he totally hates Rush Limbaugh's guts, he'll choose the latter, all the social sanction of other black players in the league notwithstanding? Now YOU'RE the one who's unrealistic.

Rush isn't racist
Regarding Rush's McNabb comment...

I remember years ago (prior to Rush) reading an article on Warren Moon (a pioneering African-American QB) hoping that he would do well, as it would show that blacks could indeed excel in the tough position of quarterback. I remember reading an article on Duane Bobick (I am not sure if I spelled that right) - heralding him as "the great white hope" in the heavyweight boxing ranks. In both cases the writer was ascerting that people were pulling for them because of their race. It is not racist for Rush to state that he feels that some were pulling for Donovan McNabb because of his race. I seem to recall that in this past Presidential election a lot of people were backing Obama because he was black.

SHG
Do you realize how pathetic that is?

Settign up a team that will inherently be poulated by marginal players is a good idea?

NFL handling of Rush Limbaugh
I respect Jim Irsay and the Colts organization. I also respect the way Roger Goodell has handled sensitive situations regarding player discipline in the past. I understand Mr. Goodell's concern for divisive comments allegedly made by Rush Limbaugh. After all, it's his job to protect the image of the NFL. However, I don't think he is acting prudently in this case. In the past, we have seen him take plenty of time when deciding how to respond or pass judgment. By comparison, he has interjected himself rather quickly into this topic. I would have expected him to let things simmer down a bit before making a public comment. By speaking out against Rush Limbaugh, Roger Goodell and Jim Irsay have opened themselves up to all kinds of criticism and questions. For example, since when did the NFL begin issuing lifetime bans for ANY detrimental behavior or comments? Could Pacman Jones make a bid to buy an NFL team? Furthermore, if the NFL is going to start banning anyone who makes divisive comments from being associated with the league, then there are a list of others who meet that criteria. Credit to Keith Olbermann for supporting Rush Limbaugh's rights. By defending Limbaugh's rights, Olbermann is essentially defending his own rights to represent the NFL as well. Normally, Goodell manages to diffuse controversial topics. In this case, I think he has only inflamed passions on both sides.

Olbermann is the story here.
Speaking of unintended consequences!

I was totally disgusted when Olbermann was a commentator. Trying to build his credibility and endear him to the public. Pure politics of the left utilizing their control and power over the media. That is the big story that comes from this. Explain that one!

Oh, I just did.

Yea! I saw those before I posted!
Despite their profession of "principles," let's see how loyal they are to those "ideals" when their contracts are up for renewal!

Those statements also prove that racism goes both ways!

Commissioner's wife works for Fox News?
How does Mr. Goodell feel about his wife, Jane Skinner, working for those evil people at Fox News?
This whole thing is a complete joke. It is so absurd on so many levels.

Goodell Is An Idiot,,,,,
And Limbaugh is not a racist.The NFL would do well to stay out of the racially bent politics of this year and stick to playing football.Limbaugh gets upwards of 20million listeners.That's more than ESPN and the rest of the Lame Street Media gets on any football Sunday combined.

The majority of owners,players and fans are conservatives and if Goodell continues down this road he's an idiot.

Goodell Is An Idiot,,,,,,
And Limbaugh is not a racist.The NFL would do well to stay out of the racially bent politics of this year and stick to playing football.Limbaugh gets upwards of 20million listeners.That's more than ESPN and the rest of the Lame Street Media gets on any football Sunday combined.

The majority of owners,players and fans are conservatives and if Goodell continues down this road he's an idiot.

Limbaugh and Obermann
I am a conservative republican. I dislike watching Obermann as a football commentator because I know his hateful politics by watching his hateful show. I will therefore agree that Rush should not own a NFL team. My logic may not be perfect, but I look for compromise. Get Obermann off NBC football as you took Rush off ESPN and don't allow Rush to own an team.

Bruce
So in other words, you aren't big enough to stick by your statement.

And the statements are not racist. They are abou the attitude and rhetoric of one individual.

Here we go again
This is another political correctness runaway event in this country perpetraited by a media with a extreme left agenda. Rush as much right to own a NFL team as anyone citizen. Keep up the fight Rush...

Bill in VA
Very good point on Olberman. There couldn't be a more caustic individual than he. goodell is indeed a hypocrite.

John in PA
The vast majority of black people and black athletes don't have a say. Are there enough blacks that purchase tickets to put into effect a boycott. Even if there were, those things don't ususally come to fruition. Like others have said, these black players that have said that they wouldn't play for him, BS. Would they strike across the league in defiance, maybe, but I doubt it. Maybe they should let Limbaugh buy in. We could see how he does with a supposed all white team.

William
Let's get the facts straight, my friend.

"The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well." In 2003, Limbaugh resigned from his job as an ESPN commentator after saying that Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb hasn't "been that good from the get-go" and "got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve," because "[t]he media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well." After the Eagles reached Super Bowl XXXIX in 2005, Limbaugh returned to making racial comments about McNabb, saying, "There's no question McNabb has improved and I'm happy to see it," but that "when the defense ... was propping the Eagles up," the media "were still giving McNabb credit -- because there's this social hope."


Rush NFL
Olberfuhrer is a vicious lying lefty (that's redundant, huh?) and I refuse to watch that lefty half-time show with him and the other 2 only slightly less to the left than he.

Rush should forget about that NFL baloney and go directly to NASCAR which as far I can tell, does not exist on corporate welfare for their multi 100 million dollar places of business.

Freedom of Association
The NFL owner's are free to allow anyone they want into their private club. The criteria for admission is set by the club members; if one is not in the club, it's none of their business what criteria the club members use--this applies to both the NFL union, Limbaugh listeners, and NFL fans.

If people outside of the club don't like that club's product, then they should not buy it.

Zapdoodat
Zapdoodat,

No facts I gave are not straight. I agree Rush shouldn't be on ESPN or own a team. Obermann's show is also hateful and he should not be a football commentator in my opinion.

I denied none of your "facts". Olberman's show is hateful and disdainful of people with different opinions than his own and he's too cowardly to interview dissenters.

John in PA
By the way, I thought the comments that Rush Limbaugh made in 2003 regarding Donovan McNabb, which zapdoodat just brought up, were STUPID rather than RACIST.

When I heard about his comments regarding the relative merits of McNabb at that time, the first thought that went through my mind was, "WHY are we still talking about the merits of a black quarterback vs. a white one in 2003? I thought Doug Williams put THAT issue to bed once and for all when he led the Redskins to a rout of the Broncos in the Super Bowl".

Gawd this is funny!
You Hewitt! You have the gall to write that the words coming from the NFL or anyone concerning the purchase or sale of the Rams, within the context of Rush Limbaugh; is McCarthyism!

What a hoot!

You mischievous little man.

Isn't Keith Olbermann divisive too?
I agree with William in MO. If Rush Limbaugh is not allowed to represent the NFL because some people think his comments are divisive, then I don't think Keith Olbermann should be allowed to represent the NFL either.

Standhisground
"Limbaugh says that if "feminazis" had remembered to oppose "affirmative action for black guys ... they wouldn't face the situation they face today." On May 21, 2008, Limbaugh said that "one of the objectives of the feminazis over the last 20, 25 years has been to dominate the public education system so as to remove the competitive nature of boys. You know, there's a crisis of young man-boy education in the schools. And they did this on purpose, to eliminate male competition in the work force. This is part of feminazi grand plan." Limbaugh then said, "They forgot affirmative action for black guys.


The NFL is left-wing...
and, let's face it, football is a boring, slow-paced sport. It's bad enough watching the birds nest atop the players helmets as they regroup in between plays. Using leftist commentators like Olbermann and entertainers like Mick Jagger equates football to an Oprah episode.

Consider boxing, instead. Its pace is ultra-fast and action-packed throughout. Boxers are regarded by numerous sports scholars as the best athletes, bar none. Best of all, there's political balance. People from both sides of the political spectrum take part in the sport both as participants and administrators. Gear up for Pacquiao vs. Cotto in November!

SHG
Limbuagh's alleged racism is irrelevant.
I personally think he's very racist, but its more a matter of tone than specific language. He's very careful to let the tone speak louder than the words. But the argument has nothing to do with what I think or what you think or what any other conservatron here thinks.

This is a business decision by the owners who do not want to deal with the fact that a minimum 12% of the American people despise the guy and are convinced he's a racist. And another 30% just hate him on general principle.

Think carefully now. How many people across the country hate Jeff Lurie. Maybe ten? How many people outside PA even know who he is? How many people hate Robert Kraft? Outside new England, who even knows that he owns the Patriots?

It's business, nothing personal.


Is John PA
actually our old friend Hal Drunkahue?

ANd For The Football Fans
It appears that traumatic brain injury is a far too common ocurrence in football players. You would have to be a dope to go into it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/sports/football/28brain.h tml

John
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers." On April 14, Limbaugh suggested the "correct" way to look at a situation in which Obama sent the military to retrieve American hostages from Somali pirates was that "if only President Obama had known that the three Somali community organizers were actually young, black Muslim teenagers, I'm sure he wouldn't have given the order to shoot."


Responding to Lon
You must be a Pittsburg Steeler fan. A little slow on the uptake. Hugh responded to the McNabb comment yesterday on his radio show. Hugh then showed the ignorance of a profession at some insignificant college of journalism that stated Rush had made comments asking for James Earl Ray to receive a medal for his assassination of MLK. How assine can one professor be???

BTW, McCarthy had a list and some on the list were Communists (Alger Hiss), but Roger Goodell did not sight one example of Rush's quotes that should be censored.

I completely understand your point of view, only problem is your are light on facts like most on the Left.

John in PA
Personally, I couldn't care less one way or the other if the NFL owners approve or turn down any bid by Rush Limbaugh to buy into an NFL franchise.

You and I actually BOTH have reasons to want to see the NFL not admit Limbaugh to the fraternity of NFL ownership, you for the reasons you've stated, and myself because I've already stated that I personally think that owning a pro sports franchise today brings with it so many headaches and hassles that I frankly think that the NFL would actually be doing Rush a favor, although he probably wouldn't see it that way, by turning down his bid and sparing him those hassles. Especially since if he DID have an ownership stake in an NFL team, as one other poster previously noted, he might be subjected to the kind of speech codes he would be expected to abide by by the other NFL owners and by the league's office such that it could seriously jeopardize his ability to continue to earn a good living as a radio talk-show host.

Of course, you realize that this can work both ways: the fans can just as easily make the NFL pay for turning down Limbaugh's bid for ownership as the NFL could make Rush pay for his supposedly "insensitive" comments by refusing his ownership bid.

Suppose just for the sake of argument a lot of NFL fans, especially those in St. Louis, WANTED to see Rush be an owner or co-owner of the Rams, but the NFL turned him down for reasons that made a lot of them bristle. Such fans COULD respond by declining to buy tickets to Rams games (or the games of other NFL teams), eschewing buying teams' merchandise, watching something else other than NFL games on Sunday and Monday and therefore driving the NFL's TV ratings down, and other ways that hit the NFL and the individual teams in their pocketbook. I'm not saying they WILL - but they COULD. In which case, the other NFL owners will have made a DETRIMENTAL business decision by not allowing Rush ownership or partial ownership of the Rams.

John in PA
OK, I was wrong. Happy now?

"And the statements are not racist. They are abou the attitude and rhetoric of one individual."

Speaking of rhetoric, looking in the mirror? God forbid that you ever make a stupid statement in your life and, oh wait, you already have made several today! My bad!

Demedia flogger
You say you have been an Eagles fan for 50 years and yet you think that McNabb has never been criticized in the media? I suppose for some plausibility you wisely suggested it was worse in the national media as the Philadelphia media has probably had more criticisms of McNabb than any other sports figure in Philadelphia over the last decade.

You are trying your best to defend Limbaugh's comment. But given that hedge I suspect even you know that your defense is nonsense. The media that covers McNabb never handled him with kid gloves.

The funny thing is, is that Limbaugh's problem is that he is used to a medium in which one does not have to know what one is talking about to be successful. He stepped into the Monday Night Football role to goose ratings, but he discovered that to be a football announcer one actually has to know a bit about the game. Most announcers are not geniuses but they have been around the game long enough to have relevant things to say.

And Limbaugh also learned that one can't cover up ones ignorance in announcing football by pulling out the race card. That was probably the biggest shock to him. The people entertained by his appeals to race were to small to make up for the fact that most viewers did not think appeals to race covered for ignorance of football.

I don't mean to suggest that Limbaugh knows football less well than he knows the things he covers on the radio, just that the level of knowledge needed for success is higher with football.

Zap
And what's wrong with that statement? Its true.

Crawfish
Although there are some similarities and although John is very one sided, accusing him of being the Kernel of the Urinal seems to be a little too far fetched.

Obviously, the lack of LOLs and LMAOs in John's posts definitely prove that he is a different troll.

OVER-PAID FOOTBALL 'PLAYERS' & INJURIES

It gets to a point.. and all NFL players are well beyond it... that in being so grossly overpaid they do not want to risk injury thus shortening their otherwise 10-15 year 'careers' and be forced to move back amongst the hated middle-class.

Not even car dealerships await such losers.

The Washington 'Redskinds' should be renamed the Washington Pinkskins (thus no longer offending the cultural sensitivities of American Indians).

The most overpaid players in all the NFL are members of this team of perpetual losers.

The more you pay them the more they lose. Gee, I wonder why??

Daniel Snyder, the owner of this fabled yet inept team of losing wimps... must be crying in his soup for having paid some $850 Million dollars for such a 'team'.

Ten years of ownership, 6 couches during that time and a continuous losing season as a result. Why the 'Redskins' even brought back all mighty Joe Gibbs (for Millions per year) who lasted but three seasons and was, like all the others... booted... in his case all the way back to Nascar.

The above can be resolved by eliminating the NFL 'players' Union and pay players based upon their stats. For example... $1,000 per touchdown to whomever gets the ball across the goal line. Another $1,000 to any running back or eligible receiver who advances the ball at least 10 yards (and an additional $1,000 for each 10 yards beyond that).

Some problems indeed do have easy solutions. If the above were implemented every member of the middle and lower class could watch NFL games in stadiums at ground leven on the 50 yeard line for... $20.00 .







Jesse
And now, Rush is a 'birther' too.

"God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen." Limbaugh has also advanced the theory that Obama was not born in the United States, saying that "God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama" and that Obama "has yet to have to prove he's a citizen. All he'd have to do is show a birth certificate."


It Will Never Happen
Unless Rush is a silent/secret partner it will not happen. The last thing the NFL powers that be want is for politics to enter into the Sunday games. Between the people who would stay away and the controversy itself, it's bad for business.

Liberal Hypocrisy - Again
Having grown up in Pittsburgh, I'm a Steeler fan, but was disgusted at this year's ceremony awarding the Rooneys the winner's trophy when Rooney used it as an opportunity to gush about Obama, no doubt in further payment for his Irish ambassadorship. So we see here the usual hypocrisy, where it's OK for liberals to speak in favor of their candidate or philosophy, but not for the conservatives to do so. I'll switch my allegiance from the Steelers to Rush's team!

Robert
"The above can be resolved by eliminating the NFL 'players' Union and pay players based upon their stats. For example... $1,000 per touchdown to whomever gets the ball across the goal line. Another $1,000 to any running back or eligible receiver who advances the ball at least 10 yards (and an additional $1,000 for each 10 yards beyond that)."

Some problems indeed do have easy solutions. If the above were implemented every member of the middle and lower class could watch NFL games in stadiums at ground leven on the 50 yeard line for... $20.00 ."

One of the stupidest comments I've seen in a while.

JamesB
"Between the people who would stay away and the controversy itself, it's bad for business."

Who do you think attends NFL games -- members of Code Pink? I will guarantee you that the vast majority of folks attending NFL games are either fans of Rush Limbaugh or folks who don't give a damn what an owner's political affiliation might be one way or the other.

Robert
"OVER-PAID FOOTBALL 'PLAYERS' & INJURIES."

Overpaid according to whose standards? We can clearly see you have zero faith in free markets and small government. Do your politics lean toward Nazism or Communism my friend?



If he is blocked for being
conservative I will never attend another game, watch a game or buy any NFL merchandise I will not allow it in my house. I just wish I lived where I could vote against a new stadium.

This should put everyone on notice that conservatives need not apply to the NFL so they should not get our money.

I, also, hope that whoever gets the Rams (if their bid was less) destroys the franchise (although how much worse it can get is questionable).

This is one NFL family that is no longer interested though.

Sports Owners
Sports Owners are not known for being the most popular of public figures. For example Baltimore Orioles owner Peter Angelos was reviled by DC baseball fans for impeding our ability to get a team of our own rather than having to watch his lousy franchise (it's worth noting that all four recent expansion teams have seen the World Series and one has won it twice). That went on so long that DC got the bankrupt, awful Montreal Expos (Now the Washington Nationals) as a consolation prize for being closer to a team for a decade than Chicago was to the Olympics this year.

Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder is universally loathed in DC and generally disliked around the country for his over-controlling, over-spending, over-marketing, under-performing ownership style. New York Yankees execs George Steinbrenner and his son Hank are both mocked for having similar reputations (though their team actually wins from time to time.)

The late Bob Irsay literally snuck his Baltimore Colts out of Baltimore in the middle of the night when he moved the team to Indianapolis. And Art Modell, owner of the now Baltimore Ravens, moved a very popular Cleveland Browns team out of Cleveland and into Baltimore. The current Rams ownership can't decide if they want to stay in St. Louis or move back to LA.

Why should it matter if an owner has a job where he says things that some people don't like to hear? Rush might actually be one of the few actually well-liked owners in sports, at least by the fans.

Rick
What is McCarthyism if not the persecution of someone for their political beliefs?

Why "McCarthyism"?
Can we please stop slandering the memory of Joe McCarthy?

McCarthy was exxonerated by the Venona Papers.

McCarthy had nothing whatsoever to do with the Hollywood Blacklist.

It is liberals who have been responsible for blacklisting and slandering innocent people for decades now. It has never been conservatives.

Lets stop using their language, which perpetuates the big lie about McCarthy's patriotic service to America.

Lon
Limbaugh did not say the NFL wants a black QB to succeed, he said the media overrated McNabb (which it had that year) because the MEDIA wanted a black QB to succeed (which it does).

The media overrates athletes and teams it wants to be popular all the time: cf Sidney Crosby (compared with Evgeny Malkin and Alex Ovechkin), Tony Romo (compared with the entire crop of NFL QBs), and the New York Yankees (In each of the last 9 years).

Jesse
Jesse
And now, Rush is a 'birther' too.

"God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen."

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have you seen it? you or any peasent couldn't cross a border without it? so why is such a problem for the annointed one to just show it to the media to shut all these people up?

Hugh
you should go back and read what HAPPENED to people during McCarthyism, and after. What happened to Dalton Trumbo, for example, compared to the possibility that Rush cannot buy an NFL team exposes your lack of education.

Precedent
> Maybe they should let Limbaugh buy in. We could see how he does with a supposed all white team.<

Maybe that's the plan. since Rush's partner, Dave Checketts, is a Mormon and BYU alumnus. BYU fields a mostly white team each year(lots of Polynesians) although they do recruit a couple blacks each year, since white guys can't play cornerback.

BYU did win a national title in the 80s, probably about the time Checketts was wrapping up grad school there.

NFL and left-wing garbage

Further worth noting: Al Sharpton, of all people, trying to place a veto on Rush. And, the draconian left-wing Rooney rule which mandates certain proportions of minority coaching interviews, or big fines are imposed.

McCarthyism
Hewitt ought to actually know what he's talking about when it comes to Sen. McCarthy. The charges made against members of various government agencies were specific and substantiated, not just by Sen. McCarthy-check out the Venona Project.

I WARNED RUSH LAST WEEK
yes i did, i warned him that if he used his "GOD given talent", for anyting other than to save america, there would be a pox on his house...look what has happened. he was put here to save america. he has to realize with the acceleration of media news he has to adapt his talent.. he has to spearhead a 24/7 investigative cable station..the only way to stop ALL OF THE PRESIDENTS criminals and all of the criminals in congress is to have a 24/7 station that reports and prosecutes their daily crimes...if the average person was aware f only a fraction of the crimes, being committed by the trash in washington, there WOULD be pitchfork awakening. rush, it is time you accept GOD's will.

McCarthyism???
In the 1950's the USA was full of socialist and communist... and McCarthy understood that.

Today, 50 years later, our country is still full of socialist and communist who are hell-bent on destroying our country and turning it into another 3rd world nightmare... and it's being done cold-bloodedly and deliberately with the help of the US Congress, the Supreme Court, and the Media.

Our usurping Muslim-loving Socialist-in-Chief wants to "change" our country. Open your eyes and see what "change" he and his administration are bringing to America. If he succeeds in his plans there will be no hope left.

In case you still don't get it... McCarthy was right!

lbs
"the only way to stop ALL OF THE PRESIDENTS criminals and all of the criminals in congress is to have a 24/7 station that reports and prosecutes their daily crimes.."

It's called Fox "News."

Also - List. One. Crime.

Dolt.

Happy Jake
So you are saying that Limbaugh's ignorant appraisal of McNabb was targeting the media rather than the NFL. You are probably right about that. I was more focused on the ludicrous attempt to play the race card and the lack of accuracy in the remark than who he specifically targeted the remark to.

McNabb has existed in a fairly hostile media environment since the city of Philadelphia booed him for being picked over Ricky Williams in the draft. He is currently getting positive press after attempts to drum him off the team last year. That has been pretty much what he has experienced since the start.

McNabb's stats have always matched his awards. Limbaugh's comment would have been simply stupid had he not decided to make race the focus of it.

Hugh
I agree, the commish was stupid. If Rush wants to own a team, let him come up with the cash.
To call someone divisive is childish. We are all divisive. The left likes to call any who dare to disagree, divisive. Well call me divisive, I've been caled worse, by better.
Kirk

Limbaugh's COmment
The problem with Limbaugh's comment wasn't that it was racist. The issue was that his comment was an effort to bring his political agenda into an environment where it was inappropriate.


Patricia
Dead on right. It was the house that was supposedly black listing people, not the senate. Yet the left still prattles on like they know history. The house committee on un-American activities was the body that called Hollywood in. The senate, and McCarthy were investigating communists in the government ie: State, Treasury, and the military. McCarthy was vindicated with the declassification of gov documents, and the veronica intercepts.
Kirk

More on Checketts
Rush's partner, Dave Checketts, failed to get public funding for a stadium to house his soccer team in Salt Lake City. So Checketts went to the county, and threatened to move his team to another market unless they built him a stadium.

Now the citizens of Salt lake County and the city of Sandy will be paying for a stadium for decades. Is this the free market system that Rush promotes, or an expensive expansion of government into the private sector?

Lon
Hey genius, for such a know-it-all, you'd think you could get it right. Rush was not on Monday Night Football. He was on the Sunday pre-game. I watched it live when it happened.

Since you don't even know the basics, I'll conclude that you didn't even hear how the comment was presented and are just bloviating.

KaBong!

Done Deal

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4559454

Rush Limbaugh will not be part of the bid for the Rams

Hypocrisy
Funny how the NFL is showing sensitivity to alleged racist comments from Rush when they have been repeatedly reluctant to put a new NFL team in a refurbished Los Angeles Coliseum due to the surrounding neighborhood. So who's really the racist?

Hugh, please buy the Rams and move them back to L.A. where they belong.

liberal fascism
Who does Sheila Jackson Lee think she is to ream a private citizen? Rush would be a better NFL co-owner than Jackson Lee is a congresman. Stupid. Who is Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton - the biggest race baiters ever - to bash Rush? And what about that Rich Sanchez(sp???) he's got quite the little past.

This is just another push in the direction where we have to stand up, take back our country from these liberals fascists and UPS the lefties down to Venezuela where they can live in kumbaya happiness in socialist-land.

I hope Rush sues the above for defamation, if possible.

It's the Culture War, Stupid!
Whining about the other side's tactics never helps you defeat him. It's hardly a surprise that Libs use every means at their disposal; that they lie and cheat. It's a war! It's not about fighting fair. It's about winning. Grow up and fight back. Throw down and stop supporting financially those that hate you and hate your values. Hugh should dump his season tickets and not look back unless the NFL grovels at his feet.

bAR-BEE
"This is just another push in the direction where we have to stand up, take back our country from these liberals fascists."

George W. Bush, Hank Paulson and the Republican party told top bankers last fall, that "they would have to accept government investment for the good of the American financial system."

Hugo Chavez, Venezuela's socialist president, found this a stunning move. He said, "Bush is to the left of me now!, Comrade Bush announced he will buy shares in private banks. Viva La Revolution!"

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE49F0K72008101 6

Anyhoo, these banks are being allowed to return their TARP money that forced upon them by the Bush-Bolshevik party. It's time to de-socialize the financial system under Obama.


HVTsRMe
You have made a suggestion with whihc I agree. If you disagree with teh NFL on such issues, you should stop attending.

But you must also keep in mind that in most cities, there is a huge backlog of people wanting to buy tickets. In some places, season tickets are an important item in people's last will and testament.

Anyone who gives up their tickets will simply put them in someoneelse's pcoket, someone who may AGREE with teh NFL on such issues.

Maybe all the rabid conservatives SHOULD give up their tickets. Let some liberlas buy them instead.

These Hypocrites
Jackson, Sharton, the Commisioner, and any player who contributed to this should take a long look in the mirror. And to think that I have been crying in my beer because I kicked NFL Sunday Ticket to the curb after ten years, and got rid of NFL Network too. These do good Waxmans in Government and these Liberal Socialist Communist have destroyed the business in our restaurants and bars. Now they want to destroy the NFL because the American People are not going to like what these O-bamaites did to Rush Limbaugh. I love my football, but I do not like this at all.

zapdoodat
I'm not approving of what Bush did, at all - and I don't think any conservative in recent history has referred to him as any type of conservative. Quite frankly, George Bush's actions are not at the heart of my comment or what the above article is about.

You cannot have two groups where one group (conservative) is treated disparately.
Amd this country shouldn't countenance a CONGRESSWOMAN making personal comments on the floor about a private citizen. And any decent person should not indulge in lies about Rush Limbaugh - those people like Sharpton and Jackson have plenty of ugly little sins in their past - who are THEY to throw stones?

My comment about liberal fascism is quite right on and I don't give a flying blank what Chavez has said - He's as stable as Sheila Jackson Lee i.e. not very.

I agree with Eddie
I hope conservatives and all decent people in this country will band together to boycott the NFL and make their voices heard, That's probably and maybe unrealistic - but maybe not. However, I like the one person's suggestion that Rush buy or support NASCAR.
Anyway, I have to go - anyone else who wants to engage in debate about TARP will have to wait for another time.

McCarthy
Hugh,

McCarthy never "blacklisted" anybody. He had nothing to do with Hollywood. Do yourself a favor--read Blacklisted by History, by M. Stanton Evans. It will prevent you from making ignorant McCarthy analogies in the future.

Olberman is on NFL Sundays
Why is that pompous jerk Olberman allowed to rep the NFL for NBC. If anyone is divisive it is that idiot. When is the commish going to step in and get rid of him?

While
I agree with the bulk of the article, do we really need to send a nasty back hand shot at that great American patriot Joe McCarthy? I would have to say no, McCarthy was the best senator we had and we need more like him.

Bear fan
Goodell and almost the entire liberal sports commentator community is curing me of my Bear/NFL loyalty and interest. If I must choose between my loyalty to the Bear/NFL brands, or to a political principle; the choice is simple. I happen to enjoy and admire Rush Limbaugh along with 20 million other people. More importantly, I don’t like the way he is being slandered by the media and NFL power structure.

So I no longer am looking forward to the Bears-Atlanta game this weekend. I’m not going to force myself to boycott the NFL. It just doesn’t seem that important to me anymore. There are better things to do with ones time when higher principles are at stake.

RD

If it quacks like a duck...
Seems like if your worldview is rejected over and over, from many different sources, in many different situations... maybe you should reevaluate it. Like if you're SURE the world is flat (it's so obvious), but many different sources tell you it's round... maybe you should consider that it IS round.

Rush is being rejected YET AGAIN.

Maybe, just maybe, he's not someone you should be respecting.

Rush Limbaugh
Agreed, Hugh. As a player during my childhood and a very long-time NFL fan, I've decided to stop viewing NFL games.

I tried to email ESPN and the NFL, but could not find an email address. Perhaps, you can provide one.

Just Announced on ABC: Limbaugh is OUT
ABC News just announced that Rush Limbaugh has been DROPPED from consideration as a part owner in NFL. The reason given was Limbaugh's history of making racist remarks. I guess you can google for details.

Farewell, Roger Goodell
Non-partisan, NFL Commissioner? Contrary to the comments of the "Bear Fan", I do not have to force myself to boycott the NFL, it comes very easily and without effort. In keeping with his leftist cohorts, Mr. Goodell does not adhere to "what is past is prologue", he much prefers to play the race card. Why not!! Everone, including the President, is doing it.

Rush never said those things
According to Limbaugh some of those quotes were put on his Wikipedia Listing as "unsubstantiated" (i.e. cannot be proven true, no record exists). He denies ever having said those things. Anyone repeating them in writing(even here) is guilty of libel. Anyone saying that Rush said those things (yes all of the dems and liberal news pundits) is guilty of slander. All can be sued. I think Rush might do it too :)

Boycott?
You yahoos won't boycott the NFL, any more than you would boycott NASCAR if they rejected a Hannity-Jesus car. (Not that they would.)

Let's see just how big an impact your boycott will have. I predict you'll forget about this by next Sunday's Saints-Giants game.


Bears Fan
RD

Mega dittos!

Please sue Rush
you see, to win damages, you have to show you had a reputation to ruin. Mr. Oxycontin has no such thing, so no damages.

But please, Rush, sue! Discovery is a broad concept...would be nice to find out why you go to the islands so often.

McCarthy was right
Stop trashing great Americans with liberal propaganda.

Rush isn't racist
One problem with satire is that when someone takes it out of context it can appear to be a bad statement when in actuality it was satirizing something / someone that was in the news that was actually the person making the "bad" comment. I think that anyone who listens to Rush on a regular basis can recognize his satire, and realizes that he is not a racist person.

I challenge y'all on this post - didn't we have people wanting Obama to win this past election at least partly because he was black? And if someone makes that observation, does that make them racist? Rush's comment about McNabb was along those lines. It can be debated whether it was accurate or not, but to make a statement about race does not make someone racist.

Cheers for Rush
Let's see now. Chris Matthews fantasizes about someone blowing up Mr. Limbaugh. The sick radical left cheer. Don Imus says "nappy headed hoes" and the same sick radicals shriek for months. This leftist mob fears Rush because he has exposed them for the two-bit filth spewing haters they are. Dangerous, but still two-bit.
I hope the police are looking into this threat. This is serious business.

I hope Rush goes after this mob for threats, libel, and looking sideways at him. This kind of call to murdering someone must NOT be allowed in America. Actually, the NFL does not deserve Rush's money. Why support jerks?

THE STENCH OF HYPOCRISY
This is yellow journalism at its best and finest. Not since the Hearst papers have we seen such defamatory, slanderous, and libelous attacks on one individual. I thought journalists- even sportswriters were supposed to fact check.

That's what I get for thinking. The Limbaugh incident should go down in history as the lowest and vilest incident in journalism.

Journalists have finally joined their brethren in politics- they are officially crooks, liars, and thieves.

who is beneath who here?
If you stop, take a deep breath and take a long look at the NFL, perhaps Goodell may be on to something. After all, he has a quarterback who tortures animals for fun, he has a wide receiver going to prison for a couple of years for almost killing people in a New York nightclub, he has another wide receiver who killed an innocent guy going to work when the wide receiver ran him over while drunk, he seemed to be OK with Pacman Jones playing in the NFL despite his incredibly high number of arrest and involvements with violence, he has a well-thought-of linebacker who participated in a series of events that resulted in the death of another individual. He has all these people plus many more than I can remember, criminals, killers etc. in the NFL, and he has the BLOODY NERVE to say Rush Limbaugh is not 'right' for the NFL. Maybe we should all listen to Goodell and understand that WE are not right for the NFL and we certainly are not 'worthy' of buying tickets and memorabilia or watching the NFL on TV. Maybe this clown better lay off the juice.

Disagree with RD
I've been rooting for a pro football team since before I could understand what was happening in the game. My feelings for this team are deep rooted, tribal by nature. Being a fan is irrational, operating at a purely emotional level--it is tied with family, friends, ancestors. It ties a community.

I would easily give up Rush Limbaugh in exchange for the feelings of being a longtime loyal fan, with all the extreme emotions that go with it.

NASCAR Fan for Rush!!!
Thanks Hugh. NASCAR needs Rush. That car's number would be on the back of my car so fast that it would make your head spin.

It is truly a shame that people can be denied the right to ownership simply because the thought police have spoken. The NFL will never find a person with a greater love for the game. His ownership would have been great for the sport.

I wonder what the people of St. Louis and the players, administrative employees, trainers, etc. would think if the team left the city or even worse shut down due to lack of funding. I guess they would go to DC demanding a handout. I hope that they get what they deserve which is nothing.

As for Rush, you can prove damages now!!! Sue the HELL out of all them and use the proceeds to start a NASCAR team!!! I can see it now - "RUSH" on the hood---

Rush - just buy the NFL
I think Rush should just buyout the NFL and fire everybody who's a racist leftwing hater. Problem solved. Roger can shine Rush's shoes. And all these players who are racists and bigots can go flip burgers (if we still have fast food that is after Obama is done wrecking our country) or smoke dope. Whatever.

Amen Kyle!!
I totally agree with you. I am sure the fast food jobs will still be available. We will only have to pay a 1000% fat tax!!!

Wusses and small minds, all.
ESPN reports earlier this evening that the head of the team bidding for the Rams has dropped Rush from the bidding team.

After more than four decades of watching NFL football, my TV's now off.

I will no longer even support by even watching the NFL and its overpaid prima donnas, some who are black and appear to be knee-jerk racist crybabies, and some teams’ owners, some who seem as ignorant and hypocritical as their players..

Goodell? Wuss.

Those who've slandered Russ? Vulgar, racist, small-minded people who's minded are locked tightly, so tightly that common decency and reason cannot penetrate.

Wusses, too.

welcome to PC America
This "double standard" has been going around for decades. Most recently, that "double standard" destroyed Michael Richards and helped elect Barack Obama (remember, even questioning Obama's association with Wright per people like McCain was forbidden). Like it or not, this is our present and future. The Duke Lacrosse case, which has more details than this post will permit me to put in this post, is an example how PC ideas have caused people to be in threat of liberty. Putting it bluntly, in today's America what do you suppose would happen to a group of blacks who killed a white person in Detroit because of his "skin color" -- the answer is that you would be lucky to get an arrest -- an no matter what it would not be a "hate crime." Yet, on the rare occassion whites commit a criminal act against a black person (in some cases other groups) it is a "hate crime." The facts do not matter, PC matters.

Boycot NFL
It should be easy. The show is lousy; the game pathetic; the players - overpaid losers.

no "white conspiracy"
There never was, and never has been, a "white conspiracy" -- despite what the media and most education will tell you. Yes, segregation occurred. Yes, blacks did not play in major league sports until the 1940s as a result of that discrimination. Yes, perhaps more than 1000 blacks were killed under color of law -- unfairly. Consider the era though. How many whites killed other whites in the 20th century? Probably more than 100 million. 100 million!! Some conspiracy. Even racist groups like the KKK targeted other whites who happened to be Roman Catholic -- the KKK tried to take over the Notre Dame Campus in the 20s and lynched a white Roman Catholic priest during their time of power.

lies and the "white conspiracy"
"Whites" during their conspiracy killed more of each other than any other ethnicity -- by far. "Whites" used forms of warfare on each other that very few of the world ever faced. What the Germans did to the Russians and then the Russians to the Germans was extremely brutal. The people in the German concentration camps were white. Those who starved to death in the Ukraine in the 1930s were white. Those who died in Dresden were white. Those who died in the millions in Ireland in the 18th Century -- leaving an Island which had a higher population in 1840 than in 2009 -- were white. The simplistic lies and pap taught by our media and schools are sickening. They also put into office somebody like the writer of "Black Like Me" or the "Crying Indian" from the 1970s environmental commercials.

what did my last post mean?
The Crying Indian, Black Like Me -- what do those things mean. Here is what they mean. The "American Indian" from those 1970s commercials was not an American Indian -- he was an Italian American. Italians had nothing to do with American Indians -- ethnically, they are not similar (neither is an somebody from Togo similar to somebody from Iran for that matter). The author in "Black Like Me" via chemicals made his skin dark brown and passed himself off as "black" about 50 years ago while segregation was enforced. He was subjected to second class treatment. Acting a certain way does not make you that way. Clarence Thomas is (1) actually descended either entirely or almost entirely from enslaved black Africans, and (2) he himself experienced harsh segration as a child during the 1950s outside of Savanna, GA. Obama, like the "crying Indian" is (1) not descended from black African Slaves -- his African ancestors do not even come from an area near where slaves in America came from -- it is like comparing somebody from Syria and Germany -- not much in common. Obama's father -- aside from being from Africa -- had no real connection to those who are decended from black African slaves. Secondly, Obama, unlike the vast majority of "whites" who have little in common, has ancestors who held black African slaves in the U.S. Few "white Americans" share that experience -- many "whites" had all of their family come over in the last 100 years or they came from groups that never held slaves. So, actual facts and history do not matter in today's America. Olbermann called Limbaugh a racist for even bringing up this uncontested point up (the irony of Obama's ancestry). Apparently merely speaking truth that is uncomfortable is racist.

LEN 10:54 AM
With all your condescension, you may want to explore the assumptions behind your own misinformation. Limbaugh’s remark about McNabb was entirely anti-racist. His observation on the desire of the NFL to cynically broaden their audience by promoting race-based success measurements was entirely accurate.

As for McCarthy’s fantasies please explain why when the collapse of Communism opened files of not only internal Soviet spy documents but also gave the FBI, CIA, and American scholars access to files of the American Communist Party held in Russia, the information vindicated almost every charge McCarthy made. Of the thousands the documents exposed, long promoted as innocent martyrs, were Alger Hiss, the number three man at the State department who would have eventually become Secretary of State; Harry White, Assistant Secretary of the Treasury, who purposely withheld allocated funding for the Chinese Nationalists, during their Civil War, destroying their currency and turning the tide in favor of Mao's Communists; Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who actually were conduits for damaging information, not only for the atom bomb but national security practices; Lauchlin Currie, Special Assistant to F.D.R.; Samuel Dickstein, member of the House of Representatives from Brooklyn; William and Martha Dodd, son and daughter of the U.S. ambassador to Germany in the 1930's; Lawrence Duggan, State Department Director of Latin American Affairs; Harold Ickes, father of Clinton's impeachment defender, Secretary of the Interior, and William Weisband of The U.S. Army Signal Security Agency. Unfortunately, McCarthy got very few removed, but among these was Owen Lattimore, who coined the term "McCarthyism." Lattimore had been Director of the School Of International Relations, was advisor to FDR on China, and preached that Mao's Communists were "agrarian reformers." In 1948 he insisted George Marshall stop aid to Chiang Kai-Shek and his Nationalists.

Stop revisionism and bigotry
Sotomayor has, by her own admission, received preferential treatment since age 18. She was admitted to Princeton with scores that an average "white" person would never obtain admission -- same thing with Yale law school. Sotomayor became a federal judge at 37. Yes 37!! Even a very connected white person would have almost no chance of becoming a federal judge at that age. Yet, she as the nerve to disgustingly claim a sense of having "hardship." What hardship? Really, what hardship? Any person whose family came from post-war Europe dealt with way more than what she dealt with. The Spanish in Puerto Rico (unlike say the black Africans and native Indians) were not persecuted -- they were PERSECUTORS). If you have Ukrainian ancestry -- people who lived through the 1930s -- or, like me, have people who lived in Western Ireland in the 1840s, these liars pi%% on your ancestors graves by stating their vile statements about "all whites." Obama, Sotomayor and the Duke Professors have no shame, no guilt -- no problem with lying about large diverse groups.

Rush's comment in context
Rush's comments in 2003 had to do with the MEDIA wanted blacks to succeed at the QB position. And no one can deny that this has been the case.

Also, a couple of context items:

1) As of the week that Rush made his comments in 2003, McNabb was the 2nd lowest rated starting QB in the NFL.

2) Later that season (in January 2004), the AFC title game was Patriots vs Colts, the NFC title game was Eagles vs Panthers.

In the early (AFC) game, P Manning threw 4 INTs vs the Pats. ESPN blamed the loss on Manning and he took the loss on himself like a man.

Flash forward 3 hours later... McNabb throws 3 INTs in the NFC title game, and ESPN fell all over themselves telling us that none of those INTs were McNabb's fault, but the receivers weren't running the right routes!!

Rush did McNabb a favor... McNabb has not been criticized by anyone at ESPN for the past 6 years, entirely because of what Rush said.

Even the following season, when McNabb choked in the Super Bowl, none of that was his fault either.

Lon
"A good sign that Hewitt knows that he is spouting nonsense is that he pretended not to know that Goodell was responding primarily to Limbaugh's braindead comment on Monday Night Football that Donovan McNabb's reputation was based on the fact that the NFL wants a black man to succeed at quarterback."

Lon, try this: Ask yourself, in your mind, quietly, with no one hearing you, or even seeing you: Is it true that McNabb was held up by the NFL, as a true dropback passer, with the necessary capability to win it all, even though he demonstrated time and time again that he was not that guy? If that statement is true, you cannot hold what Rush said against him (Rush).

It takes a hell of a lot to say the truth, regardless of how it "sounds" to people, or regardless of how many agree with you.

warning
This is only an early-ish example of how the left plans to keep those who do not bow from making a living. But I read somewhere in the bible (I cannot for the life of me find it right now; maybe someone can help?) that "in those days, my children will have bread to eat, and you will not". That is a paraphrase. The context is in the setting of a post-leftist world. Basically, it will be payback for acts such as what just happened to rush: they are interfering with the natural progression of his material success because he will not bow.

John
"This is a BUSINESS decision. Or shouldn't
they be allowed to run their business as they see fit?"
Apply that statement to all walks of life, and to all those interested, on either end of the gun, and the left WILL NOT LIKE IT.

Leftists unsportsmanlike, NFL fumbles
Denying Rush ownership will only hurt the NFL as it is refusing investment and insulting the intellegence of their customers. Worse yet, it was an unforced error.

Meanwhile, the NFL continues to employ the likes of Michael Vick and many other felons. It's so bad that some have started calling the NFL the National Felony League.
http://alltalksports.wordpress.com/2007/08/14/the-national- felony-league/

This whole incident just goes to show that the leftists in our nation are willing to go outside the lines and employ character assassins in order to win. Where are the refs when we need them.

Where's Nancy?
Given Chris Matthew's reference to his violent fantasies about Mr. Limbaugh, one wonders when Nancy Pelosi will appear, eyes welling with tears, to proclaim that such talk reminds her of the terrible events in San Francisco in the late 70s.

We are in
the time where all that the left really believes is finally being aired, legislated, and documented. We'll go one of two ways. Either the left will try and engineer a way to keep power when the final cry of "Enough" moves to throw out the loonies, with a resulting civil war. Or, the loonies will be thrown out and replaced by other loonies that ride the wave into power created by the finally exposed (they love to expose themselves) socialists. Either way, it will be a rough ride.

I posted this on my blog 1 1/2 years ago
I am a stickler for facts -- Rush erred in his old comment, but it was not per se racism at all. Here is what I wrote:

Rush Limbaugh, when he made his McNabb comments, was totally incorrect in the context of football. If this were the early or mid 1980s, he might have had some point (but he really should not be raising it on a sports show). Since Doug Williams in 1988 -- many, many, many black quarterback did well in the NFL -- very well.

Warren Moon, HOF, pro-bowls, lead multiple years in passing yards -- potentially could have had the most in a season but for an injury. Randall Cunningham -- some great years early in his career and late in his career with the Vikings. Daunte Culpepper -- some pro-bowl top years with the Vikings. Steve McNair -- close -- very close -- to a superbowl victory -- won an MVP.

I could keep listing guys who have made the pro-bowl or did well over the last 20 years -- but there is really no point.

While McNabb may have been overrated (as was Mike Vick) I think that might be the fault of bad analysts in football (where there are always many). I always thought that Aaron Brooks -- who had 2 or 3 solid years with the Saints -- was a better overall quarterback than Vick who was his 2nd or 3rd cousin.

The lesson of this blog is -- know what you are talking about and don't inject race in an area that it does not belong.

Rush Repercussions
WILL SOME ONE PLEASE START A WEBSITE TO IDENTIFY EVERY ADVERTISER IN THE NFL SO THAT I CAN BOYCOTT THEIR PRODUCTS. ENUFSENUF..
ROSE AND RUSH..LET THEM IN

Rush Is right Bobby Gee
Rush is right on the money. He exposes the truth. The left can't handle that. http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2286457/in_defens e_of_rush_limbaugh.html

Racial Racketeers
Where were the big mouths of Sharpton and Jackson a few years ago when a man who constantly uses the "N" word, pornographically denigrates women and is an ardent gun-lover (and user)and self-proclaimed "gangsta" became a part owner of the NBA's NJ Nets. I speak of course about the rapper, Jay Z (real name Shawn Carter, a total thug and waste of human flesh). The two shakedown artists didn't utter a word of objection and the Nets actually play in Al Sharpton's home state, just across the Hudson River from "Hymietown." What gall! It would be impossible to find two more despicable people anywhere in America---and that's quite a claim considering the plethora of human debris available in this country.

Here's what Goodell said last year...
In an online fan forum, Roger Goodell did a question & answer chat with fans. I found the transcript over on NFL.com. Here's one of the questions you might find interesting about being able to respect other's with different opinions:

//////Riles, Denver, Colo.
Hi Mr. Goodell, thank you for sharing your time answering NFL fans' questions! Being the son of a former New York senator, what growing up did you learn from your dad about politics that has maybe helped you most since becoming the commissioner of the NFL?

Commissioner Roger Goodell
The most important thing to do is to listen to different perspectives and respect different perspectives. The great thing about being involved in the National Football League is the tremendous interest in our game and everyone from club personnel to media to partners to our fans all have an important opinion. I try to respect all of those as my father did.\\\\\\

Really? He respects people with different opinions?? So long as they're not conservative opinions right?

Link: http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ab99eb&template =without-video&confirm=true

Missing the point
Those who claim that Rush is somehow unfairly victimized seem deliberately blind or hopelessly dense. Sports is a zone where those of different races, backgrounds and political views can bond without regard to what separates us. In his ESPN blunder, Rush was basically forcing viewers to think about affirmative action while watching a football game. That may be an important debate to have, but most viewers want to escape that kind of stuff while watching sports, which for most of us is a DIVERSION. Rush could have simply said that McNabb was overrated and that would have been fine. But Rush mistook a football broadcast for talk radio. Big mistake.

Besides he is unpopular in the African-American community and is a lightning rode for controversy. He actively tries to promote controversy, and if no one noticed, unlike other owners, he broadcasts 15 hours of radio a week in a highly visible forum. Every time Limbaugh says something outrageous on his radio show (or perceived so by large numbers of NFL fans), the controversy would spill over on the NFL. Why in the world would the NFL want to voluntarily undertake such an association? I can't think of a reason. The NFL had every right to reject him as an owner, and they would be crazy not to. I still don't understand the argument that the NFL did something wrong.

But hugh you didn't mention....
that Rush doesn't "play" football like the other controversial people in the NFL...like Plaxico...Michael Vick and many, many others that surely Roger the dodger would not allow them to bring any kind of negative awareness to the NFL....he's tough on them...huh?? By the way, hugh, you must quit making all these common sense, logical and important points...won't be long and you'll lose your tickets to Cleveland games; remember "no controversy allowed by non-players!!

Misuse of Left-Wing Terminology
Hugh Hewitt said, "It is classic McCarthyism to use unspecified charges of political wrongdoing to blacklist an individual, ..."
but that was a typical left-wing definition rather than one that should be used on townhall.com
I point to Ann Coulter who knows the truth and who correctly provided it to others in her book "Treason"
http://tinyurl.com/ygg7664
For other evidence of Joseph Raymond McCarthy truth just scroll to bottom of townhall page and search ALL for "Coulter" and "McCarthyism."
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