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Friday, August 08, 2008
Hugh Hewitt :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Vision: "America Is No Longer What It Could Be, What It Once Was."
by Hugh Hewitt
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“America is, uh, is no longer, uh, what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, 'I don’t want that future for my children.'”  --Barack Obama, 8/7/08, in response to the question of a 7-year old on why he was running for president.

Study that for a moment. Let it sink in.

Ask yourself "What could Barack Obama possibly mean?"

Obama is ending a second dismal week in a row, a run of gaffes with few equals in modern American political history, and he was fixed on beating a retreat to Hawaii, only to be ambushed by a 7 year old.

Commentators immediately recalled the Dukakis-Shaw (the rape-murder of your wife question) and Kennedy-Mudd ("Why do you want to be president?") moments, but hesitated: In those cases candidates had been felled by adults, tripped up by sneaky journalists hiding their traps behind crafty questions.

Obama was felled by a second grader. Asking the same question in essence as had Roger Mudd of Teddy Kennedy. How could Obama not have an answer at the ready?

"Sometimes an empty suit is just an empty suit one" caller to yesterday's program suggested.

Or perhaps Obama just meant that the terrible years under Bush with all the secret arrests, torture and unjust invasions were coming to a close, so we could return to the glory years of Bill Clinton, Madeline Albright and Sandy Berger.

No matter how you analyze it, Obama's latest flub is in the "major" category, and coming after his decision to triple down on the inflate-your-tires to energy independence platform, packed Obama off on vacation in a decidedly sour mood.

There is little doubt that Obama can hardly wait to get to Geneva Switzerland on September 2 to party with George Clooney and other expats indifferent to their carbon footprints.

Before we let the four year senator from Illinois head off into the Pacific sunset, though, we should turn his declaration on America's decline over a few times.

Rather than simply assume that Obama is unable to survive untethered to a teleprompter, we have to at least consider that Obama meant what he said, and that he genuinely believes the country to be not only badly broken, but unmoored from its essential nature: "No longer what it could be. What it once was." It is the sort of critique that cannot be classified with a simple rejection of George Bush and his policies or even of the general conservative direction the country has been moving in since 1968 and especially since 1980.

Obama's verdict --delivered in a few words to a very young American-- is that America has gone radically wrong.

And that it will require radical change.

Perhaps we had an unscripted moment of candor, a declaration from the most radical nominee of a major party in history that he is not about a gentle turning towards the left, or even a major shift in legislative priorities or security policy.

Let's take Obama at his word to a child: If he is elected, Obama sees his job as reshaping America in a fundamental way.

In a radical way.

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The Obamoron
Is a Typical, Urban, ACORN, Entitlement, Whiner of a Crybaby.

Barack Obama is an EMPTY SHELL Candidate
ANYONE who allows him or herself to be fooled by this empty shell of a candidate is not only LESS intellectually inept than a seven year old, but is simply choosing to be willfully ignorant to the inherent multiplicities of inconsistencies and weaknesses within Obama's consistent gaffe laden pandering and poorly stage managed appearances.

Heck, the 2nd Grader who confronted Obama has a better handle on reality than does Obama or most of his naive supporters.

Good Article and
I firmly believe if elected, the changes he will institute will be radical indeed. I think he means what he says.

Diplomacy?
This guy who is a walking gaffe machine, not just based on bad grammar like Bush, but on substantive policy and ideological issues, wants to meet one-on-one with the most dangerous leaders in the world. He wont be able to use a teleprompter.

Who knows what he'll end up agreeing to with Iran or Cuba, or how he may inadvertently provoke them.

THE FURTHER TO THE LEFT...
...they go, the more they are ashamed and disgusted with their own country. While we can be forceful with our influence, there isn't another country anywhere close to us concerning the charity and help we give so many in the world. Fortunately, we are getting to know who we may be dealing with. The possibility of a BHO whitehouse, Pelosi house, and Reid senate is positively frightening! They will punish (literally) our population as if we were their enemy.

America would be great if Obama left.
I too wondered just exactly when Obama thought America was great....He said the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration were failures when he attack the small town Pennsylvanians... It sounds to me like Obama thinks America is a total failure and he alone has the cure..Maybe he is the tree of life...He has a new poster indicating that he is the tree of life..Personally I think he is the other tree....And I think it is blasphemy for people to even say Barak in the same breathe they say messiah and a greater blasphemy for Barak to have allowed it.. unless of course he planned it, wants it and is the promised one that is coming, the antichrist...

Ruth in OH
I try to deny the "antichrist" thinking, but I efforts are getting less successful. This guy seems to fit the description. I wonder if he has any Greek heritage. That would be another bit of evidence.

What's wrong with Obama.
Everyone on the right points out that Obama is not very good in impromptu situations. He's much better when he has a script. (The exact opposite, mind, of President Bush who has been criticized for his difficulty with prepared texts, but is noted for his ability to shoot from the hip.)

There's a very good reason for this: Barack Hus-Change Obama does not want us to know what he really thinks, especially vis a vis America and the American people. He's a leftist, racist, elitist politician who believes that his race entitles him to high office. He does not believe in American values, he resents people who have real faith (not some racist political organization posing as a church), he considers himself a "citizen of the world" (which is a term used for people who believe American citizenship is beneath them). Every time he says something ad libertum, it's something denigrating America or Americans (his "bitter, clingy" speech is an example.) So when he has to come up with an answer himself, he has to check himself to make sure he doesn't commit political suicide.

He will either fail miserably in this election because people realize how bad his attitude will be, or he will be an even worse president than Carter (and we'll probably get stuck with a couple of his Supreme Court justices to boot) because they didn't.

America "coulda been a contender"
Art Linkletter's famous aphorism, "from the mouth of babes" comes to visit the junior Senator from Illinois.

Truth be revealed is that Sen. Obama's understanding of the Republic is non-existent. What does he harken to with, "America is no longer what it could be, what it once was."?

Does he long for a moment in 1917 when Eugene Debs was a candidate for the great office? Does Sen. Obama pine for an America that he can point to that was the America he claims no longer exists?
Sen. Obama, tell the voters when America was the America that you think it could be again. Let us in on the revelation Senator.

This man despises the Republic and its history and is lock-step with Rev. Wright in that regard.

Obama the Antichrist
I honestly don't believe Barack Hus-Change Obama is the antichrist. He's just a 2-bit political hack who happens to be popular with some because he is black. The antichrist would not be nearly so obvious in his detest of decency.

the left's disconnect
this idea that the left continually cries that america is on the wrong track.

With a 5% unemployment rate, it means millions are working and taking care of their own responsibilities. But still the left cries because there is no socialism.

Millions own home and make timely payments and all the news reports is the sad plight of those who should have never gotten a home loan based on their financial situation and how the government thinks we should bail out these losers.

Of course many are dealing with higher prices for gas and food and other things in life. But while dismayed americans tend to be optimistic and still believe the future will improve. That is all but the left and the crybaby media who have invested everything in the messiah.

The msm has always opposed the repubs and thinks by painting everything in it's worse possible light it will make things easier to get the messiah elected.

But guess what, most americans still believe in america and expect the person they vote for to believe in the overall goodness of this country and it's people,

But b hussein makers it sound like we are on our way to becoming something akin to a third world toilet. That is unless we turn to our savior who will guide us to the promised land.

Unfortunately for the dims, b hussein is neither the messiah nor does he have any vision other than how can he bring about moree socialism with himself in charge.

The idea that anything matters to b hussein other than himself is a fantasy the left will not acknowledge

The Real Barry showed himself to a child
BHO just let the world know how he feels about the greatest country in the world and he told it to a 7yr old little girl. He's just saying what Rev. Wright preached for 20 yrs. The entire Obama family (and friends) REALLY believe that the US is broke and he and only he can fix it.

Barry is not electable...period!!!


Tsk, Tsk Fred
The only freak on this thread is the one that can't see the forest for the trees. Speaking of Paris, she was bashing McCain and displayed a better understanding of energy than Oblaba.
He's sinking faster than a whale in an oil slick which is the scare tactics you're using to stop drilling. When the majority of white Americans get behind that curtain their vote will be guided by the white-hating 20 year association with Rev Wright and the anti-American associates. And I'm sure you know that's a pretty high percentage. And I guarantee they will show up.

Obama'd Out!!!!!
Barack doesn't want this America for the future of his children, and I want to leave American oil for my children, while getting more for myself.

Barack has been groomed to change the face of America in the worst way. When he loses this election, maybe he'll move to Kenya, where living has always been ideal for his children. No work needed there.

Obama
1. One must ask. Obama represented the southside of Chicago when he was a State Senator of Illinois. Before he was elected, the area was a slum. While he was in office, the area was a slum. Now that he's in the U.S senate, and running for President, the area remains a slum. There has been no improvement in that little patch of land . . . and yet this doofus believes that he can "fix" the U.S. The U.S. that's in vastly better condition than that 3rd world district that he represented in South Chicago. Wow!

2. Obama claims that he wants to bring back American to what it once was when it was better. Well, that was before the 60's, and before Liberalism started taking hold of our schools and institutions. Obama seems to think that more Liberal policies will make the U.S. better. Har har.

ab

Fred
What you and most other liberals (both in the MSM and out) don't seem to understand is that a generic 80% dissatisfaction rate does NOT automatically mean 80% welcome Obama's brand of change. That dissatisfaction with the way things are going can just as easily come from a conservative perspective as a liberal one. Am I happy with the societal trends that I see of increasingly lax morals, increasing socialistic actions by government, etc? Absolutely not!! And yet it will be a cold day in Hell before I would ever consider voting for Obama. So be careful how you interpret those generic numbers.

One of Obama's phrases...
was he wanted to create a kinder, gentler country. That sounds like his wife's oft repeated line re America being a downright mean country. They are two elitist peas in a pod. They may deserve each other, that is for them to decide, but they do not deserve to lead this country and that is for us to decide. I know that will be tough, given our lack of intelligence and our tendency to cling to guns and religion, but we'll give it our best shot, Senator.

Obama is . . .
100% unelectable.

Feel Sorry for him, but don't be fooled.
I just think it's a shame that he has such a negative opinion of America. But he is showing his true colors and they're not Red, White and Blue - possibly just RED(as in socialist) Now his supporters will defend him by saying his words are being taken out of context or that Hugh and others are ignoring the final portion of his answer of "hope", etc. (which are meerly platatudes as usual). This is just another insight who he really is and where he really sits. I don't think he has the personal strength nor convictions to stand up for America. I don't believe someone with his lack of support for and belief in American traditions and values should be elected to the highest representative office of the American people.

BO = JIMMY EARL CARTER?
Is this the messiah's "malaise" remarks ala JEC?

Why is a 7 year old a prop at a townhall? Barack should beware of interaction with children. Has he ever studied the ridicule given Jimmy for advice on nuclear arms control by his daughter, Amy? Doubtful.

On second thought, keep up the good work, Barack! Bit by bit, the smoke and mirrors are starting to fade showing the emperor has no clothes, but only a foot in the mouth.

The Obamas revealing themselves

Stringing together the words of Barack and Michelle Obama... and you begin to truly understand how THEY feel about America:

"America is just down right mean"

"For the first time in my adult life I'm proud of my country..."

"It’s not surprising then that they [Americans] get bitter, they cling to guns or religion .."

"It's embarrassing -- it's embarrassing when Europeans come over here, they all speak English. They speak French, they speak German. ..."

"America is no longer what it could be, what it once was..."


Morph into the picture 20 years of Rev Wright damning America and "white" Government.

THIS IS THE OBAMA FAMILY!

No Fred, if everyone on the right left
then all that would remain in America would be people who think government is the answer to everything. The US would become the People's Republic of America and it would look like the Soviet Union and collapse just as the Soviet Union did. It would look nothing like the original 13 state United States that was a Republic that believed in equal rights but not equal incomes. It believed in equal opportunity but not equal results. Our founding fathers would be howling at the leftist leaders of today because of the tyranny that socialism creates. You have no clue.

The fascinating part is

that Obama has either 1) not decided why he wants to be president; or 2) does not want to say in so many words why he wants to be president. He is either unusually shallow or he is hiding something.

That is what I got out of the video clip documenting his response.

Of coourse, I have always been suspicious of his motives in this campaign. I have never trusted him because I think he is hiding things he believes and intends to accomplish. I believe he was open about his agenda he would be defeated more soundly than George McGovern in 1972 or Walter Mondale in 1984. Still could happen I think.

Worst Presidential Election EVER!
“America is, uh, is no longer, uh, what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, 'I don’t want that future for my children.'” --Barack Obama

Thanks, Liberals, for undermining all that made this country great. Thanks, Republican party, for letting them do it.

"No longer what it could be"?
That appears to be two unequal clauses separated from their parent sentences and smashed together to make an incoherent statement.

The two parents of that clause would be: (1) "No longer what it was" and (2) "Not what it could be."

A thing CANNOT stop being what it "could be", since it never WAS what it "could be" in the first place.

If you wonder why Obama doesn't seem to make any sense, parse some of his sentences and see how many of them are made up of clauses that started life as two different thoughts and somehow got delinked and smashed together.

CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
"What's happening now in America is a life and death struggle between the American people and the literal neo-Nazis."--this from impeachbush on another TH thread.

I couldn't agree with him more.
We have a candidate of a party running for President who would seize the profits of companies & their shareholders upon which our nation's economy was built.

We are being "served" by a dictatorial Congress of this same party that thumbs its nose at & refuses to give either ear or voice to the very people who elected them and pay their salaries. Taxation, without representation.

This same illegal Congress has every intention to kill the 1st Amendment to the Constitution and, thus silence any broadcast opposition to its policies.

This same Congress intends to disarm American citizens, while passing legislation to criminalize speech that insults Islamic jihadists within our own borders.

We have a national news media that is the propaganda arm of this one party and campaigns openly for & abets its dominance.

We have masses of people that flock to support & chant its would-be Fuher's every pronouncement, in numbers that ol' Adolph himself would have killed even more Jewish babies to have.

We have scientists who promote the innocent abortion of human fetuses and desire laws to be passed making it legal to perform experiments on their carcasses.

We are told by this party what we can or cannot eat and Congressmen tell restaurants what they can sell.

Yes Mr. impeachbush, what's happening now in America IS a life and death struggle between the American people and the literal neo-Nazis, and it's led by the same types of National Socialists that gave birth to the Third Reich:

The National Socialist Democrat Party of America.

...led by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
And if this party has its way in November...Der Fuher Barack Hussein Obama.

That's CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

audi r 10
thanks for brilliantly dismantling the messiah's latest missive.

But then again speaking ignorant is what enchants him to his equally ignorant acolytes

AudiR10 hit it dead-on.
...made up of clauses that started life as two different thoughts and somehow got delinked and smashed together.

BINGO!

I said back in late '06 that this Obama charac ter would be popular until he just couldn't manage to talk out of both sides of his mouth anymore. I think that time is upon us. And a 7-year-old did it.

John McCain, you keep calling sissy-boy out onto the playground - as soon as he has to have a non-scripted debate in public, he is TOAST!

And I never thought I'd say this...but I catch myself daily thinking Hillary Clinton would NO LONGER be the worst thing that ever happened to America. So Slick Willie, keep right on paying off those airplane mechanics...

Well put, Audi
That was a great post, and clearly articulated what I was going to write when I thought it but obviously before I had written it.

fred
you are all over TownHall today...and not really saying much, except blindly defending candidate obama and insulting learned writers. I hope the obamachine is paying you more than minimum wage.

Audi-ha!
AUDI nailed it- clauses that started two different thoughts.

No doubt a side effect of speaking out of both sides of the mouth--sometimes the phrases get out the wrong side!
It exemplifies him.

On a serious note
I am sick and tired of Mr. Obama's 'message' about how rotten America is.
Sorry, it's not true.
And Freed, people not being happy with politicians or the economy, or any other thing...that's not the same as portraying this county as mean and deficient.
Sorry, America has not lost her light.

I'm sick of you leftists who would believe and revere any given terrorist thug, but accuse your own country of tyranny.
Go take a flying leap.

Does Obama want separate but equal
Those insidious children. I guess the dumbing down of Ivy League schools is showing when Obama cannot give a straight forward answer to a 7 year old. Plain speaking should be a snap for an eloquent reader.
Some language skills should rub off from the scripts he has read for years. Maybe he is a "slow" learner.

Obama was bush whacked by a second grader.
Does Obama want the return of the grand days of "separate but equal", Jim Crow and a union dominated economy?



CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
"What's happening now in America is a life and death struggle between the American people and the literal neo-Nazis."--this from impeachbush on another TH thread.

I couldn't agree with him more.

We have a candidate of a party running for President who would seize the profits of companies & their shareholders upon which our nation's economy was built.

We are being "served" by a dictatorial Congress of this same party that thumbs its nose at & refuses to give either ear or voice to the very people who elected them and pay their salaries. Taxation, without representation.

This same illegal Congress (& its candidate)has every intention to kill the 1st Amendment to the Constitution and, thus silence any broadcast opposition to its policies.

This same Congress (& its candidate)intends to disarm American citizens, while passing legislation to criminalize speech that insults Islamic jihadists within our own borders.

We have a national news media that is the propaganda arm of this one party and campaigns openly for & abets its dominance.

We have masses of people that flock to support & chant its would-be Fuher's every pronouncement, in numbers that ol' Adolph himself would have killed even more Jewish babies to have.

We have scientists who promote the innocent abortion of human fetuses and desire laws to be passed making it legal to perform experiments on their carcasses.

We are told by this party what we can or cannot eat and Congressmen tell restaurants what they can sell.

Yes, what's happening now in America IS a life and death struggle between the American people and the literal neo-Nazis, and it's led by the same types of National Socialists that gave birth to the Third Reich:

The National Socialist Democrat Party of America.

...led by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi.
And if this party has its way in November...Der Fuher Barack Hussein Obama.

THAT'S CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN.

HAPPY JAKE
Man, I hope you're right! I just get more creeped out by BHO as time passes.

You nailed it AUDIR10! The problem is the masses of IQ challenged americans buying into his nonsense (literally). They remind me of cartoon characters with little X's where eyes should be. It's almost translike. Even 5 repubs are writing legislation with 5 dims for energy reform - almost taken from Obama speeches. The citizens from these idiot's states should flood their offices with calls. The Dems gave the GOP Christmas early with this energy stalling, but Chambliss, Thune, Graham, and the other two RIHOs are assisting Pelosi in undermining our economy and workforce.

Obama is representative of the far left
Obama is further left than what Newt Gingrich was to the right.

What do the left of Congress represent?

They support the notion of hate speech yet applaud the likes of Whoopie Goldberg when she goes on an N word rant. They support right (left) kind of person can be as obnoxious as they want.

They support limiting religious expression unless it is something other than christian because limiting a religion as peaceful and well meaning as Islam is defined, by them, as being zenophobic.

They say insist that it is zenophobic not to want to support, with tax dollars, people who do not want to learn english, who put pressures on pay scales and medical resources because they enter the country illegally.


They support limiting free speech when it is economically viable, restoring the fairness doctrine. It will make it economically restrictive for talk radio to have two countering veiw points.





once always a marine
impeachbush is said to be a female. My guess is a card carrying member of code pink who is some overcome with terminal bds it keeps her permanently angry and irrational.

But it seems the messiah has become a gift that keeps on giving. If he can get tripped up by a 7 year old we can only guess what 2 faced double dealers from the m/e would do to him.

At the risk of being accused of being racist, it strikes me as odd that this supposed highly intelligent guy needs to use uh with such frequency.

But we are still in the early part of the campaign. I look forward to more cracks in the facade of what the media has helped to create. But just as frankenstein made an imperfect monster, the media is having the same level of luck with their creation.

But what the one has failed to answer, if he is so disenchanted with america and if americans are so flawed why would he want to be president.

I can understand wanting to run something you can take pride in but the america that b hussein talks about seems not worth saving. But then again I doubt we will never get an answer by the messiah to that simple question

fred (flintstoned)
My dear ignorant fred:
"White Americans will be voting their racism and using Wright as an excuse. Wright NEVER said he hated anyone - he made claims that make you feel uncomfortable - because they're true (except his weird AIDS claims - that's just paranoia) - but white hatred? The former US Marine? Please. If anything, he's a far better American than Hugh hewitt - who clamors for war, but decided that serving was for suckers..."
Timothy McVeigh was a former soldier, too. Your point proves the exception: far left liberals like you will justify the hatred that has (and probably still is) spewing from the ugly gape on wright's face, and like justification of gore's excessive carbon footprint, you liberals have no shame in defending all that is wrong with this country directly as a result of liberal ideology...


If a 2nd grader can best him
If a second grader can best him, imagine how he will fare against America's enemies around the world. Or rather, don't imagine it. The thought is beyond frightening in the extreme.

I am beginning to think that the fate of America hangs on this election, and that our fate will be tragic if this incompetent oaf is elected POTUS.

Wake up America. Smell the eggs. They are rotten.

Fear not, conservatives
Many conservatives apparently think that once Obama is President, he can just go ahead and do whatever he wants, issue orders to transform American society, and so on. Well, just relax. The governmental system created by the Founders will impose limits on what he can do. Even if he has a big Democratic congressional majority, how many times have we seen situation where a president's worst opponents often consisted of some of his fellow party members in the House or the Senate?

Even if Obama harbors grandiose designs, very few of them can be rammed through because our government was set up to make that sort of thing extremely difficult. Obama will be surrounded by layer after layer of people and institutional structures that he will strive to move and he will come up short.

Remember Truman's comment on Eisenhower that goes something like, "Poor Ike! He'l say 'do this' or 'do that,' and absolutely nothing will happen."

So don't dive into your bomb shelters yet, don't worry so much about stockpiling ammo, or water, or getting the safe house ready for your friends in the militia. Not much will happen.

Remember the scene in Woody Allen's "Bananas" where the Castro-like dictator goes bonkers when he gives his triumphal speech? "Henceforth, everyone will wear their underwear on the outside and speak Swedish."

Obama sounds like that to me, and I'm a liberal Democrat.

Obama repudiates ..?
What makes Obama unhappy? Is it gay marriage movement,
affirmative action, high taxes, government resistance on oil development?

I have noticed around here
that there are not any campaign yard signs anywhere. Not for either candidate. Tells me that no one is ready to commit to either candidate.

gestell
your theory is flawed in that pelosi shares the same ideas and goals as the media's messiah. If the dims have majorities in both house of congress there is no telling what they might change about this country.

The idea of more govt and higher taxes are all connected to his plans for spending the treasury.

The right is not afraid of the messiah, but we value what our country stands for and don't want to see b hussein diminish this country in any way

To: Fred
With all due respect sir, if you find our nation so "despicable," you are certainly free to leave anytime you please.

yeah right
How dare Obama say the country is not what it once was. Conservatives have that claim trademarked. Of course Obama is just being critical of the Republicans and the Bush Administration. Conservatives are usually criticizing the values of the people in the ocuntry.

Apparently the Switzerland thing is malarky too.

Obama supporters? Time to assume
the position!

On your knees Obamies of all races and religions.

It is time for your daily call to worhsip your lord and master - SWAMIE-OBAMIE!

So get the H*** off TH, bow before your autographed photo of Obamie, and recite your sacred incantations:

Yes we can!(stolen from Hugo Chavez)
Yes we can!(stolen from Hugo Chavez)
Yes we can!(stolen from Hugo Chavez)

Now click your heels three times and say:

Obamie's the ONE (because OPRAH said so)
Obamie's the ONE (because OPRAH said so)
Obamie's the ONE (because OPRAH said so)

and then your favorite mantra of all:

Anyone against Obama is a racist...
Anyone against Obama is a racist...
Anyone against Obama is a racist...

There! Feel better?

Your Swamie-Obamie hears you because he is all hearing .... I mean have you seen the ears on this guy?

Geez! Is that a racist comment?

It probably is to the ZOMBIE-OBAMIES!

Dave 2
"but what the one has failed to answer, if he is so disenchanted with america and if americans are so flawed, why would he want to be president?"

Answer: CHANGE

NO OIL PRODUCTION

NO NUCLEAR ENERGY PRODUCTION

NO COAL PRODUCTION

NO MISSILE SYSTEMS

NO CLINGING TO YOUR GUNS

NO CLINGING TO YOUR RELIGION

NO FREE SPEECH

After he gets through changing it, It won't even BE America anymore.

Return of the Sixties
Barack Obama is a teaching moment for all Americans. Most citizens do not have leadership positions in companies or other institutions but all have God-given commonsense. When a potential president says he is going to raise taxes. Do not ask for whom the bell tolls, the bell (taxes) tolls for thee and me.

Barack Obama obviously does not believe in a free economy: He believes in a command economy. Soak the producers, abort the young, and destroy the individual entrepreneur.

He is a totalitarian, rap-obsessed, enviromental wacko right out of the Sixties. Fellow citizens, wake up, he and his supporters want to control our lives.

The Sixties utopia-obsessed vampires have returned and they will suck the blood and treasure out of our country, all the while claiming they only want to save us--but first they must destroy everything that we have built in the last three centuries.


Vote Obama
Because, Gestell says they will not do anything.

So all that money the oil companies make will not be subject to Social redistribution.

The taxes for those who EARN more than 250,000 a year will not be affected.

Health care for all will not be in the offing.

Car companies will not bennefit from his incentives for building energy efficient automobiles.

The earth is not going to be saved from the greedy Americans who squander it's resources.

Islamic terrorists will not be made safe from a government wanting to listen to phone conversations.


Fred
It's clear for all to see, whose doing the all the "swallowing"!

...got a mirror handy?

Fred
Don't blow a headgasket.

Reply to OncealwaysaMarine
Thread post #28 - You never cease to amaze me with your articulate writing style and foresight. Were you by chance associated with Dr. King? In some of your postings, I can almost hear him speaking again. Perhaps a run at office may be in the future, who knows?

I believe he means every word
when he says we are in for radical change under his administration. He is going to make changes that very few of us want, need or will be happy with. This guy is scary.

Nation is an embarrasment?
The left would like us to be embarrassed by having to force Pershing II missiles into Europe over the protestations of leftists. Yet the Berlin Wall came down.

The left would like us to be embarrassed because we had a nutty president telling us Star Wars would work. Yet we have an airplane which targets missiles with laser beams and missiles hitting missiles effectively enough to make them a threat to Russia.

The left would like us to be embarrassed because the United States stood against French, German and Russian economic interests to eliminate Sadam Hussein.

The left wants us to be embarrassed because many of us really believe there are differences between men and women so it makes marriage between men and women different.

They want us to feel embarrassed by a president who would not allow full scale embryo research. Yet science has come up with new methods of creating stem cells.

They want us to feel embarrassed for not wanting to listen to a politician who claims America is the worst exploiter of the worlds resources. Yet America produced most the worlds food, goods and services.

Hewitt is in Never Never Land
Ooh. Obama recognizes that America is on the wrong track and needs to change. Only someone as out-of-touch as Hewitt would think that stating the obvious was a campaign flub for Obama. Has he been reading national polls lately? Obama was only saying what the majority of us think.

Obama's Real Vision For America
In December 2007 Barack Obama's church bestowed upon Louis Farrakhan its highest social achievement award, the "Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. Trumpet" Award.

Farrakhan's views on white Americans are well known, "It is an act of mercy to white people that we end your world...We must end your world and bring in a new world."

If you are not fimiliar with how Farrakhan feels about America, I'll provide you with a "snippet" from one of his "sermons": "There is no wicked nation in the past that approaches the evil that is practiced in America on a daily basis." and "A decree of death has been passed on America. The judgment of God has been rendered and she must be destroyed."

Farrakhan, in October 1995, along with other so-called black leaders such as Barack Obama and Al Sharpton, helped lead the Million Man March on Washington, D.C. Obama had taken time off from attending campaign coffees to attend. Obama's own take on the March:

"What I saw there was a powerful demonstration of an impulse and need for African-American men to come together to recognize each other and affirm our rightful place in society...These are mean, cruel times, exemplified by a 'lock 'em up, take no prisoners' mentality that dominates the Republican-led Congress. Historically, African-Americans have turned inward and towards black nationalism whenever they have a sense, as we do now, that the mainstream has rebuffed us, and that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."

Is this Obama's "Vision for America"?


Silver Lion
Thank you for your kind words. While I was never associated with Dr.King (I was 14 when he was killed), I recall the power of the movement he led to unify our country; not by denigrating it, but by appealing to its citizens (black & white) to bring to fruition the great vision of its founding fathers; judging each other by the content of our characters and not by the color of our skin.

I was too young to participate in any of Dr.King's marches, but even as a young boy, I was moved by the power of his "Dream" (as were so many Americans were at the time). Whole families would sit down to watch his speeches on the television; speeches full of the power that could only be attributed to the "Holy Spirit" (The "spirit" that guides all good men). One thing was obvious to ALL who witnessed that history as it was being made:
Here is a black man who LOVES his country!

America, is populated by human beings, and humans are by nature, flawed at best. But America has come a long way since then. And whatever her naysayers may say, elsewise. She is that "bright and shining city on a hill" that no other nation even comes close to.

I will share my plans for community service with you in the near future. Thanks.

God damn America!
With Ayres, Frank, Phleger, Alinsky and Cie. as mentors why wonder about this? Hasn't been Michelle clear enough about the mentality of the Obama group?
What I still cannot understand is how there still are Americans buying in this Hope'n Change affair.
All visual aids are available: they can see the smoking gun, they can see the recovered bullets issued by it, they can see everything which can lead them for getting a correct drawing of Glibama's anti-American ways and convictions and deeply flawed nature and they still dither - what more do they need?

johninoregon
all the messiah understands is his view of how socialism is better for america and how this country would be a better place it had more in common with europe.

But as you have proven from previous posts, you share the one's disdain for america. But will youy be happy paying more taxes and having more govt and less choices should the anointed one become president.

But how bright can the messiah be when a 7 year old trip him up. But then again you probably share that same flaw with b hussein

Allen
Well said.

Couldn't disagree more
I like Hugh, and I'm a right-leaning centrist, but I just think Hugh WAY overstates his case when he calls it "a run of gaffes with few equals in modern American political history". Especially when McCain himself has had more than his share of gaffes. Don't get me wrong, I'm for McCain...but I just think telling the truth is important. I think Obama's answer was a bad one, but it really won't resonate as something significant or newsworthy beyond conservative circles (which it would need to in order to really register as historic).

Obama is right
to an extent, except I wonder what decade he thought it actually was good. Most likely pre Bush. It was going downhill way before that. Unfortunately, what he is proposing will do nothing to make things any better.

Like so many leftists
Obama has a foggy view of the past. He honestly believes that the American the founders envisioned looked like the Democratic Party platform and that the US would be at its best if it took its rightful place in the world politic -- used the Euro, took its law from other countries, signed on with every UN resolution that is offered, and most importantly, exported our wealth overseas sooner rather than later. Yes, he sounded not bright, because a 7-year-old asked him a pertinent question. Why do you want to be president? translates into Why should anyone want to vote for you? He hasn't got a cogent answer besides that he's ashamed of the country that has afforded him so many opportunities and he wants to remake us in fundamental ways so we can be "all that we can be" (whatever that means).

And, Johninoregan, America needs to change -- yes. It needs to move more toward conservative politics that deals with reality rather than pie-in-the-sky change-for-change-sake nonsense. Just look at the energy debate. The Republicans are demanding real-world solutions like domestic drilling while the Democrats are suggesting we put on sweaters and properly inflate our car tires. Don Young, (R)AK rep, has introduced a bill on ANWR with over 180 bipartisan cosponsors. We can be almost positive it will pass the Senate and that Bush will sign it into law. Nancy Pelosi adjourned the House until after Labor Day to prevent it and other bills like it from coming to a vote. Yeah, we need change all right. We need to get rid of the do-nothing Dems and return our government to a more conservative congress willing to work with a conservative-moderate president. Obama does not fit that bill.

Obama was never what he could have been
and is likely never to be.

The essence of Obama
There seems little value in pointing out Barack Obama's liberal record or his strict adherence to the Democratic Party position, it means nothing to those who also ascribe to this tenet.

Barack Obama has now exposed himself in a politically injurious way with regard to the greater electorate. He spoke in unfaltering terms of America before cheering crowds in Europe. He sponsors a bill in the Senate that would transfer American productivity to the UN and he tells a little girl that the greatest nation on the planet is not what it once was.

It is key then that we cheer America for where it is today, recognize the enormous distance we have traveled from where we began and the potential for the future should we continue to allow individual effort to achieve its greatest level of accomplishment. Obama does not look at America this way, he has contempt for individual achievement, he seeks to hold it in check.

Obama spoke of the "bitter clingers." It is not those however who hold dear their faith and personal freedoms, rather those who lack the ambition to succeed, and believe the successful owe them for their failures. This is Obama's world. This is the contrast that now needs to be made.

Keep Talking
I will bet you money Obama will not debate with out being able to script every word. He says the stupidest things and luckily his Media enablers do not report it. Hillary realized to late to debate or force Obama off script.

Hugh's wishful thinking
What utter nonsense! None, repeat none, of what he characterizes as a "flub"--"major" no less--is anything of the sort. Get a grip, Hugh. Wave your arms all you want, you'll just look silly and get tired. Actually, you already look silly; whether you get tired remains to be seen.

Find something real to discuss.

When WAS America Better Than Today?
Was America better before the Revolutionary War? Was America better before the Civil War? Was America better before the Great Depression? After? Was America better before the Civil Rights movement and Affirmative Action? Was it better before 9/11?

Exactly WHEN was America better than it is today? Obama has nothing positive to say about America, except that he can make it better. Socialism or Marxism is NOT better for America. If Obama wants to live in a socialist society, he should pack up his family and go somewhere else. I understand the Germans think he's great, maybe they'd want the Obama family. Obama has dual citizenship, perhaps he should go to the other country he's a citizen of.

Maybe he thinks Washington, D.C. is broken, but certainly America isn't. If the Democrats would only stop trying to undermine the country, we could be strong and prosperous again. These Democrat socialist old hippies in Washington, D.C., running Congress are the problem with America! Too much free-lovin' and psycodellic drugs they did in the 60's have warped their minds. Sal Alinsky was a bad, bad person, and yet they all look up to him. Obama is a socialist anti-American pretending to be an average guy, but after Nov. 4th Obama will take the mask off and show us who he REALLY is, and it isn't going to be pretty.

typical lib thinking
big surprise the leftists show up to tell conservs their thinking is somehow faulty.

But the left still can't provide any examples where they have had any success other than getting elected.

For example let them provide examples where they implemented any successful programs that actually solved problems rather than grow govt.

But with the dims the only victories they know is winning elections. That their standard bearer wants to turn america into the same spineless place as exists throughout europe is particularly troubling.

That he feels the need to make excuses for america's behavior rather than cite examples where america has come to the aid of others shows he fails to understand history.

That he fails to understand what america stands for shows he lacks pride in the country he thinks he is qualified to lead. The idea that he can remake america into whathe thinks it should be shows a failure to understand the values of this great country.

But then what else is new with the left. While most on the right see a great country the left only sees america as the problem of everything in the world

Dr Kings Vision

I heard Dr Kings speeches and felt throughout my being that he was speaking for all Americans.

Dr King really only asked that we be judged by the content of our character and NOTHING else.

I agreed with everything I ever heard in his speeches and especially the "I have a dream" speech.

What has happened since then? How did we fail Dr Kings vision - what went wrong?

If I question the content of Obamas character that makes me a racist?

Have the 'race hustlers' destroyed everything Dr King worked and died for?

Obama is naive and dangerous.

Obama knows the truth, so facts are unnecessary.

Obama has superficial charm.

Obama is self-centered & self-important.

Obama has deceptive behavior & lies.

Obama is conning & manipulative.

Most of all, Obama is NO Dr. King.

"No Longer What It Could Be"??
The answer would be - my dear young lady - IT IS AMERICA - The Shining City on the Hill.
Well Barack - the USA did pretty good by you and your wife. Not too shabby - in spite of your questionable associates and your ????accomplishments - you did OK - by age 45 you and your family were all set!!
That entire flag pin thing - more significant than we think. Oh there are lots of issues that reveal the candidate for what he is - and we weigh all of that - including the flag pin thing which keeps nagging at one. Socialist puppet of the far left!!

Open Mouth (A)

Insert Foot (B)

Chew Thoroughly (C)

OnceMarine, Audio, Retired Geek etal
Right On all! You gentlemen give me hope for the future of America!


For Fred the Flamin Lib!
Trinity UCC never preached racism? TUCC's central tenet THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM preaches blacks are captives in an America designed kill and imprison them. That not only sounds racist but is racist by anyone's definition! Anyone, like Rev Wrong, who subscribes to Dr James Cohn's Black Liberation Theology is no friend of the United States even if he is a ex-marine!

BO claims to want to change DC because it is in the grip of "special interests!" The only special interests BO hates are big business and the US military.

BO is deeply in debt to his pet special interests, labor unions, national teachers association, trial lawyers, sierra club, black victimhood advocates, global warming alarmists, code pink, planned parenthood, UN income redistributionists, gay and lesbian alliance, moveon.org, etc.

BO is the special interests candidate on steroids!

Fred comment please
Obams church TUCC.

"We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian... Our roots in the Black religious experience and tradition are deep, lasting and permanent. We are an African people, and remain "true to our native land," the mother continent, the cradle of civilization. God has superintended our pilgrimage through the days of slavery, the days of segregation, and the long night of racism. It is God who gives us the strength and courage to continuously address injustice as a people, and as a congregation. We constantly affirm our trust in God through cultural expression of a Black worship service and ministries which address the Black Community.

"Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System."

I agree with Hugh
that BHO represents the potential for a radical reshaping of the very culture and structure of America. The MSM are trying very very hard to package Obama as some sort of new fresh dawn of promise for America -- knowing full well that he will immediately begin enacting a radically left-wing agenda on America -- one that is obviously horrendously out of tune with the way 80-90 percent of Americans envision how their country should progress. IF this happens (because I have very serious doubts that Obama will be elected), and America suddenly becomes a socialist nanny state that tolerates all manner of perversion and law-breaking, I believe you will see street protests of a magnitude that will make the late 1960s counter-culture movement look like a girl scout jamboree. Oh, there will be bloody, violent dissent at what liberals will (would) attempt to do to our precious country. I take solace in that....

As goes Rome
Where were all of you when Bush and other Republican politicians took a turn to the left? Where was your outrage when they pushed Medicare prescription drugs, McCain-Feingold, welfare for charities, welfare for foreigners, Sarbanes-Oxley, environmentalism, NCLB, an increase in the size of the federal government to the largest it has ever been? Where is it now?

Why do you worry about Obama when it has been the Republicans who have led us down the road to socialism? Do you think that the Democrats did that? The Democrats are helpless without the Republicans' help. They are too incompetent and spineless. They need OUR help to pass their leftist agendas and to make their little schemes work. They couldn't have done it without us.

All of you need to take a good hard look in the mirror, because none of you checked O'Donnell's column today, and here you are impotently spitting and snorting about Obama.

If you do not check the sell-out Republican politicians, who do you think will? Me, by myself, who you will denounce for not supporting McCain, which I will not do because he sold out?

Civilizations fall when their people lose their vigilance.

Wendy and other Obama Proxy Voters

Rationalizations for Obama

The complex process the human mind uses to arrive at decision-making has been the topic of many volumes.

One consensus that is generally held is the human mind can justify any decision and any action that it takes.

Rationalization is the mortal enemy of facts, logic and reason.

Rationalization is in ‘simple’ terms, a defense mechanism that attempts to explain bad decisions or behavior in a rational logical manner.

Rationalizing that a vote for any candidate that cannot win is not a vote for Obama gives us a prime example of rationalization.

Rationalizing that a ‘symbolic’ vote will teach the major parties a lesson contrasts the reality of their premise that the major parties ‘do not know what they are doing’ and ‘haven’t learned from the past’.

Teaching 'Politicians' a lesson is oxymoronic at best - Obama-Followers will vote for Obama regardless.

Third party votes at this time in history, is simply a 'proxy' vote for Obama that gives one a feeling of 'superior' Patriotism, I guess.

Rationalizing that ones closely held principles trump the safety and wellfare of America and its citizens is little different from those who want America destroyed.

Those who say we need to return to the Constitution that many Americans have left or attempted to destroy will be best accomplished by giving Obama and Liberals their desires and wishes to control America, is akin to giving children matches and gasoline.

The children will surely learn a lesson if survival succeeds in overcoming the odds.

Rationalizing that an Obama presidency will be good for America in the long run defies facts, logic and reason.

Obama supporters? Time to assume
the position!

On your knees Obamies of all races and religions.

It is time for your daily call to worhsip your lord and master - SWAMIE-OBAMIE!

So get the H*** off TH, BOW before your autographed photo of Obamie, and RECITE your sacred incantations:

YES WE CAN!(stolen from Cesar Chavez)

Now click your heels three times and say:

OBAMIE'S THE ONE!(OPRAH said THAT)

and then your favorite mantra of all:

ANYONE AGAINST OBAMIE IS A RACIST...

There! Feel better?

Your Swamie-Obamie HEARS you because he is ALL HEARING.... I mean have you seen the ears on this guy?

Geez! Is that a racist comment?

It probably is to the ZOMBIE-OBAMIES!

Retired Geek
Re: Rationilizations for Obama.

Well said!

Obamas Marxists Plan

Obama promises his Marxist plans for twenty cities - how would this ever be undone?
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Create 20 Promise Neighborhoods in high-poverty cities

Establish 20 Promise Neighborhoods: Obama will create 20 Promise Neighborhoods in cities across the nation that have high levels of poverty and crime and low levels of student academic achievement.

The Promise Neighborhoods will be modeled after the Harlem Children's Zone, which provides a full network of services, including early childhood education, youth violence prevention efforts and after-school activities, to an entire neighborhood from birth to college.

Ensure Community-Based Investment Resources in Every Urban Community: Obama will work with community and business leaders to identify and address the unique economic development barriers of every major metropolitan area.

Obama will provide additional resources to the federal Community Development Financial Institution Fund, the Small Business Administration and other federal agencies, especially to their local branch offices, to address community needs.
Source: Campaign booklet, "Blueprint for Change", p. 43 Feb 2, 2008

Doug Indeap
Location: CA

Reply # 76
Date: Aug 8, 2008 - 8:19 PM EST Hugh's wishful thinking
"What utter nonsense! None, repeat none, of what he characterizes as a "flub"--"major" no less--is anything of the sort. Get a grip, Hugh. Wave your arms all you want, you'll just look silly and get tired. Actually, you already look silly; whether you get tired remains to be seen.

Find something real to discuss."

Wow, thanks for letting me know that. I guess I can skip reading this for myself and making a decision on it merits and take your word for it how horrendous it really is.
Now I can just go inflate my tires, drink my Kool-Aid and just wait for your next inciteful rebuttal.

Aloha
Perhaps the Obamas wil stay in Hawaii and withdraw from the presidential race before Hillary steals it from him. Or, perhaps Obama will start his own church. The Church of I AM THE PERSON THAT I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR.

He just makes you want to smack him. Please Barry, stop with the whining! It's just so French!


Obama says he is willing to talk with
world terrorist leaders without preconditions, but he is afraid to go on Fox News Network. After telling him, "anytime ... anywhere," he is extremely hesitant to debate McCain. Does this man have the kahones to become the leader of the free world? Fraternity president, maybe. President, uh ... no.

Is it that hard?
How hard is it to say "this is the greatest country on the face of the Earth and I want the opportunity to help make it greater"?

Fred:
Fred said, "80 percent of Americans say the country is on the wrong track."

I think what those 80% are talking about is Congress' stupidity and lack of accomplishment. Congress' approval rating is the lowest ever recorded in American history; they have an 8% approval rating. The President's approval rating is in the 30%s.

Blaming the Republicans isn't going to work anymore; America sees clearly who is hindering us... Nancy Pelosi and her cronies in Congress.

Oh, no! Hugh caught an Obama gaffe!
Hugh is American media's most ridiculous Chicken Little. The sky is constantly falling in his world, and his hyperbole is breathtaking. Remember his confident predictions of a Republican win in the 2006 midterms? Remember the doom that would fall on us once the Dems actually got the majority? Remember the horror that would result from a McCain nomination over his boy Mitt? Do you people read him thinking he has any real insight, authority or credibility? He's a cheerleader with a megaphone.

So when he talks about Obama's "run of gaffes unequaled in modern political history," well, consider the ridiculous source.

Hugh will blame his favorite whipping boy, "the MSM," with giving Obama a pass. But only the most rabid mouth-foamers inflate his comment to mean Obama "hates" America. He is simply poking Republicans for their failures. HE'S CAMPAIGNING, for crying out loud.

I once loved John McCain. But his pandering rightward lurch, and the simplistic, substance-free ridicule of Obama done by Hugh and Medved, among others, are pushing me into the Obama camp.

Hugh is predicting doom for us all. Yawn.

America - What it once was (?)
Let's examine what America "once was." If Mr. BHO refers to the times when Americans were proud to be Americans, saluted the flag with dignity and everyone knew the words to the Star Spangled Banner..... are those the days? Well, I am 82 and can speak to the days of old. Yes, we were proud of our birthright because that pride was instilled within us by parents, teachers, religious educators and yes, even political leaders. The economic times were not always healthy (the big depression of the 30's) but despite the adversities, we never gave up on our country. Today's youth have no clue.... and the entertainment media is largely responsible. But sadly, educators have bitten of that delectable apple which promises nirvana with no responsibility to anyone but self. We have, as a people, turned away from God. Like it or not, we were founded on Judeo-Christian principles - and they are still morally valid.
Mr. O does not have a clue about what America was - he sees an America where a few (like himself) control everything through government. Big brother will take care of us all. Take away individual incentive to achieve and you take away the spirit of a nation. Check the history records - I did not make that up.

Audi R10
God bless you. The grammatical analysis you provided will undoubtedly fly right over the heads of most Yobama addicts. Cheech & Chong would have a hard time presenting a coherent translation of what the Annointed One blathers about.

Dear Carol . . .
. . . O'Vomit will never say, "This is the greatest country on earth..." etc, as you suggest . . . because he is more than simply 'not a patriot.' I believe he profoundly hates white America, wants to destroy it, and doesn't care if that destruction comes from within (by financial/social means), or from without (by terrorist means).

If those of us who believe in God aren't frequently down on our knees asking God's protection of America, then we are in BIG trouble if O'Monster is elected POTUS!

Best regards,
Jana Martin
Oklahoma City, OK

What the heck does it mean?
Something that is no longer what it could be? DOes that mean that it was ONCE, at one time, what it could be?

If I told you that "I'm what a I could be", wouldn't you think that was a little strange?

Q.E.D.

It's Not America They Hate...
I had a nice, old fashioned epiphany yesterday. A bright light switched on in my little brain.

I was listening to the radio, and heard a recording of Michelle Obama saying:

"Sometimes it's easier to hold on to your own stereotypes and misconceptions. It makes you feel justified in your own ignorance. That's America."

Then I thought about all the other negative things that Michelle and Barack have said about us. And I realized, it's not America that they hate.

It's Americans.

If the GOP had any -- repeat, ANY -- guts, many of their TV ads would simply be photos of the Obamas and audio of THEIR OWN WORDS. The Democrats could whine all they want, but no one could deny what has been said.

And to the Obamas, on behalf of Americans from coast to coast, I'm sorry we're not up to your standards.

WHEN ON STAGE
When a puppet without its puppeteer or a dummy without its ventriloquist goes on stage he demonstrates just exactly what he is---a puppet and a dummy.
Whoever is pulling the strings, writing the scripts and subsidizing Obamas "starring role" will be running our country if Obama is elected. AND THEY ARE NOT AMERICANS!!!!!

Obama's America
This comment is consistent with his presidential campaign theme. America is some how no longer what it used to be. He never defines what that means. He surely cannot mean the days when Jim Crow was dominant. Rather than a country which has tried to improve toward its original stated ideals, he pretends he sees an America which only his presidency can save. But his ideals are cliches. CO2 emissions are evil, free markets are incomplete, radical redistribution of wealth is required, government control is the solution, America has isolated itself from the world, America is the problem, etc.

Obama
This guy is to the left of Pelosi. On so called gays who are not gay but homosexual; he wants to make that mainstream. How radical can he be? I can tell you, more radical than America wants. Let's send a messge by telling him to go home wherever that is.

Underdog @ 1:02 AM
Exactly! I would, though, be worried if the messiah-wannabe dropped out and Hillary Clinton became the Socialist-Democrat nominee.

She actually looks preferable to the Marxist Obama.

Happy Jake
Great analysis and solid conclusion. Obama says so many things that alienate the mainstream because he is maintaining a facade, he dare not reveal his true thoughts. Combined with his sparse contacts with people outside his world of BLT, Chicago south side politics, and America bashing left wingers, he says very revealing things. His supporters see nothing offensive about phrases of typical white person because typical white person is the way they think about whites too.

It will not be long until
someone in Obamas gang says that the second grader was a Republican Plant that was placed there to make it appear that Black people cannot speak standard English. (And what does that actually mean? YOUARACIST!)

My suggestion: Deploy the second grade! If you have an intelligent child under the age of 10, send him or her to the Obama rally near you and see if He will talk to that child. Put these all over YouTube.

I'd be arrested for assault
If this was said by a presidential nominee to my 7 year old daughter, I would have beaten him like a drum.

A 7 year old innocent CHILD still has stars in her eyes has been told what a wonderful country we live in and how anyone could grow up to be president.

Now this anti-American marxist fool has dissed America to this poor kid and unless her parents are also fools, they have some serious repair work to do.

My 7 year old daughter wouldn't have been anywhere near an Obamanation rally so I would have never been in the position to be arrested but my anger at his STUPIDITY makes me think how glad I am that I homeschool and can protect my kids from idiots like him.

At least I can allow her to see what an important year this is by a black man and a woman running for POTUS by not having her patriotism demolished by a left wing marxist looney!

I think 80% of Americans do
think we are on the wrong track.
We have been for years, years of PC garbage brought by libs where one gets sent to "diversity training" for telling a joke that offends some humor challenged, thin-skinned fool.
The commies had their re-education camps, what's the difference?

We are tired of affirmative action, after 40 years if you can't get up to speed, it ain't the fault of the rest of us..get a job on your own.

We are tired of supporting lazy people who won't do right by their kids, feed them and read to them yourselves, it's not our job to provide jobs for others to do YOUR job as a parent.

We simply tired of paying taxes and getting ripped off by crooked congressman in both parties for pork barrel BS that keeps them up there to do even more mischief.

We are particularly tired of haughty people like pelosi and reid who think they are better than us and can do whatever the hell they want to do with impunity while we suffer under all of this and high gasoline prices to boot. Prices that will be even higher and an economy in depression if enough idiots are persuaded to vote for this commie obama. The trifecta of obama, reid and pelosi will destroy this country.
Vote that witch and the rest of these dems OUT and give McCain a veto proof congress and we WILL get back to the framers vision despite what the libs have done up to now.

STOP HATING ON OBAMA
Its just funny i may not a agree how he may have handle a seven year old but, Bush is a lier, he is murdering our troops. Bush is a bully to other countries,Iam an american my people were born on this land. Look at McCain just a looser with alot of babbling and should just go into a nursing home. YOu guys are all just afraid of change OBAMA will be bringing. Their is nothing but FEAR ITSELF TO FEAR..iM VOTING FOR OBAMA thinga can't get any worse then what BUSH has done already. If McCain becomes president the poor will be more poorer,he is out for him and his rich friends to get richer he just wants to make sure he can still afford his $500 dollar shoes while we have children here in the USA starving...

Strange ...
... To Leftist/liberals,the more America does to overcome its faults, the WORSE -- not better -- that America appears. The better America is, the more unbearable and unjust seem the remaining faults.

Repeatedly they have said


Repeatedly, Obama supporters like Rev Wright have said if you have not read Dr James Cone's writing on black theology.

I challenge anyone to read Cone and tell me he does not advocate the radical views of Wright and others. (a child of the Black Power movement of the 60's)

wenonaha
which is it, you are another functional illiterate showing your support for the messiah as your masters in the dim party have told you.

The mccains have many millions of dollars, and you think they should buy their shoes at walmart so that they can send the rest to losers like you who whine about their inability to take care of their own responsibilities

But let me guess, which are you another black who fully buys into I am a victim 24/7 and the messiah will save me by taxing the rich who have earned it and give it to me because I am both too stupid and too lazy to earn it on my own.

Or are you another of those white libs who buy into the notion of liberal guilt. That just because 200 years ago bad things were done we owe this imagined debt that can be repaid by electing an unqualified candidate who now talks of reparation payments while running for a the presidency of a country he doesn't think stands for anything or doesn't have much of of a future

But b hussein is neither the messiah the dims proclaim him to be nor does he have any plans to make america better. But then people like you always think the rich don't pay enough taxes and the poor don't get enough handouts.

But do you have any trouble with his plan to send the UN an additional $890 billion dollars that people like you think should be headed their way.

If you are really an american you would fully understand this is the land of opportunity. But there are a couple of requirements to find success. Education and hard work. Obviously you prefer to whine about things being unfair for you. But here is another term for you as well, that is loser

Not a "Gaff"
I don't understand this article at all. Obama did not make a "gaff." He merely repeated what his message has been though his whole campaign. In his commercials, there is is clip with him saying almost exactly the same thing.
As far as the 80% of the country saying we are on the wrong track, you have to remember that this figure comes from both people who think the country is too conservative, AND people who think the country is too liberal. The Democrat-controlled Congress has consistently received a much lower approval rating than President Bush.

You Know the Rules!

After this answer NObama, you must now turn to America on national TV and admit,

"I am NOT smarter than a second grader!"

and THEN, please, LEAVE THE STAGE of AMERICAN POLITICS! To return would require you to get a thorough cranial enema followed by a refill with 10W(isdom)-Conservative Philosophy.

Obama wants "change"
The quote by Obama, "We live in the greatest country the world has ever known, and I hope you will help me 'change' that".

Oh, really?

The only change I see from this empty suit is "short change" for Americans and lots of taxes to pay for his entitlements.

Jondar2
Indiana

O=racist
If Obama hates white America, believes America to be racist,
and is a marxist, then his positions, what he says, and the global poverty act make perfect sense.
To someone who believes themselves to be oppressed, by bringing
the current power structure down would only be a plus.

I believe O to be racist.

Sensible Americans are docile, lack unity, and have become lazy.
Notice illegals protesting in L.A?
Korean violent protesting American imports.

We are idly sitting by while our country is destroyed from within.
Not a whimper. Nary a word.

O=racist
If Obama hates white America, believes America to be racist,
and is a marxist, then his positions, what he says, and the global poverty act make perfect sense.
To someone who believes themselves to be oppressed, by bringing
the current power structure down would only be a plus.

I believe O to be racist.

Sensible Americans are docile, lack unity, and have become lazy.
Notice illegals protesting in L.A?
Korean violent protesting American imports.

We are idly sitting by while our country is destroyed from within.
Not a whimper. Nary a word.

President Obama
Obama...
Oblivious...
Oh God, Save us!

Obama's politics
It's becoming apparent that this man is not ready to take on the responsabilities of President of the United States. To hum and haw about so simple a question left him with the only answer he could muster: his core belief that America is racist, a country beneath his vaulted opinion of himself,and needs his leadership to get it on the right track, a nanny state where we need a government passifier to satisfy the needs of those who haven't achieved what others have worked hard for. Tax the rich to give to the poor sounds great, but this is not the role of government in this republic. Every chair must stand on it's own bottom, is a truism that has made America the great country it is today. We help each other, not with government doleouts, but individual initiative.

Barack Hussein 'Alinsky' Obama.
America is now far from perfect. It could much worse and will be if The Bo-Rat is at the stern.

He is the next step in our progression to a totalitarian state. It will happen sooner or later. I prefer later.

This man is a puppet for the socialist party and is being aided and abetted by many in our own country.

The ONLY answer to this dilemma . . .
There is incredible reluctance to accept McCain vs Obama. The American people deserve a better choice than this dilemma.

This is why, three years ago, I switched to the Constitution Party (www.constitutionparty.com) and now support their presidential candidate, Chuck Baldwin (www.baldwin2008.com). Chuck is the only candidate without a reprobate agenda, supported by a reprobate political party.

My advice to all of you, while you still have the time, is to seriously check out Chuck Baldwin!

Stupid
What an empty head. The man can't even think/talk for himself without his handlers feeding him lines. How horrible for black people in this country that he is the best candidate they can find. Did he get into college as an affirmative action student? And where in his class did he graduate?

Leave Now
Why doesn't this dolt pack up his family and leave now? If this country is not good enough for him, he needs to rethink his pitiful circumstances and make things better. I think some of the African tribes need leaders; he would no doubt do very well in a more enlightened environment.





Putting our trust in the American People
Long ago I began to tire of hearing Rush, Hannity, and a host of other conservative talk show hacks exclaim that they trusted the 'wisdom' or the 'will' of the American people. Now I wonder, are these guys insane? The 'American People' are responsible for choosing the knuckleheads we have put into office over the years. Pelosi, Schumer, Reid, Kerry and yes, Bush, McCain, and other disappointing 'conservatives' were duly chosen through the dubious 'wisdom' of the American people.

'The American People', collectively and currently, are proving out the cynical view of a long dead H.L. Mencken:

'No one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American people'.

Obama is the quintessential expedient politician. Like a chameleon he can appeal to the 'hood as an 'organizer'. It was expediency that took him to the Rev. Wright's church. It is that same expediency that makes him want to appear more palatable to a huge number of gullible centrists and moderates. And America is falling for Obamamania. When we stand for nothing we fall for anything. And if we fall for Obama who has absolutely no discernable record to defend or even examine--we deserve him.

This is typical of a narcissist
Correct diagnosis that something is wrong, but puts the blame on others so he doesn't have to correct himself or address his own culpability.
He will never address the fact that what has changed America for the worst are the policies and ideology of the Left.

"He flatters himself in his own eyes so that his sin cannot be found out and hated" Ps. 36:2

Obama Wants Change
Obama wants change. One can only hope that the second week of November finds him standing on a street corner begging for it.

Of course
Neither will the dolts in the Republican Party.

They'll continue to talk and act as if they can "work with" those who are trying to devour them.

Just hypetheticly speaking? …
… is it possible that he is actually saying that the direction this country has taken was in fact wrong? That Big Business insisting on being the only one that could run America; running it better than the Founding Fathers had intended, and it has turned out that they have run America right into the ground. That between the Social Status, Bigotry, Racial Bias and Sex Discrimination and an unwillingness to just get along with each other because “WE” are right, added to the down turn of America? Could he be talking about all the above in such a simple statement?

You see “WE” all forget one thing and that is simply this: “with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.” This is the fabric of our nation yet some in America do not see it this way as it is all about the money and how much can one acquire and they are running this nation now. Simply put; I do not want either of the choices we have been given. We need to get back on track as a nation not as the corporate cash cow we now are. The system in place now is not about Democracy at all rather it is about spreading business interests and how much money can be made while spending taxpayers money to do it and this is not hypetheticly speaking this is more the truth.

Let us never forget
that this election season, who the Democratic Party has offered up as their best candidate.

A man who has no understanding of America.
A man whose prism view of America is skewed.
A man who has no credentials.
A man who has demonstrated no ability to lead.
A man who possesses incredible arrogance.
A man who can't share from the heart without getting in trouble.
A man who is hiding his true beliefs from the American people.
A man who has morphed his views more times than Michael Jackson for political expediency.
A man who flip-flops on a daily basis according to the crowd he's with.
A man whose wife has never been proud of America.
A man whose Pastor is a racist, America-hater.
A man whose associate was an American terrorist in the 60's.
A man who has accomplished nothing in his political career.
A man who was stumped by a 7 year old.

This is the Dems best candidate. This is the new democratic party. Perhaps they should hold their convention in Iran!

OncealwaysaMarine
Absolutely excellent posts! I salute you, sir.

There is a Real Danger

There is a Real Danger in judging a 'group' of people by one or a few people.

Judging ALL Blacks by Obama or Sharpton is as empty headed as judging ALL females by Nancy Pelosi or Paris Hilton - as empty headed as judging ALL men by Bill Clinton or John Edwards.

We are a society that lives in a 'Shock Value' and 'Bad News'. During Katrina all attention was placed on Looting and those who were suffering because Government leaders had failed miserably.

The focus of who was at fault was shifted from the 'Real' culprits of local and state Democratic government leaders to Pres Bush and the Federal Government.

The 'Real Danger' is when people judge by 'intuition and feelings' - knee jerk reactions - instead of facts, logic and reason.

Democrats had successfully blocked the 2001 Bush energy plan which contained 540 million dollars to shore up levees in New Orleans.

The Posse Comitatus Act passed by Congress in 1878 prevents a president from sending federal troops to a state without the governor’s consent.

The Democratic Governor of Louisiana refused to cooperate with President Bush when the president asked for her consent to begin a mandatory evacuation four days before the storm.

The Democrats in the Louisiana homeland security office also refused to let the Red Cross bring truckloads of food, water and supplies to the Superdome.

There is a real danger in making 'snap judments' NOT based on facts, logic and reason.

Obama the Big Zero
This clown is not only unelectable, he's probably not even constitutionally eligible for the presidency. Otherwise why keep insisting that an obvious forgery of a birth certificate is the real thing?

The US Energy Crisis

The Obama-Pelosi coalition say that 'Drilling for More Oil' will NOT help to bring more oil supply into the equation of 'Supply and Demand'.

The Obama-Pelosi group have solved the energy problem with a 'Tire Pressure Gauge' to reduce demand.

Obama-Pelosi and their 'Followers' blindly accept 'knee jerk' solutions to complex issues and problems.

Obama-Pelosi state "Oil companies currently have 68 million acres of leased public lands that contain large amounts of economically recoverable oil available. Drilling in these areas could generate 4.8 million barrels a day so opening up more land is not necessary."

Obama-Pelosi 'Feel' they understand better than petroleum engineers how to obtain oil from drilling.

Obama-Pelosi 'Feel' that oil available in those 68 million acres can produce the same amount as those acres being used.

What is the REAL Obama-Pelosi agenda?

Obama-Pelosi know their 'NON THINKING BLIND FOLLOWERS- will accept anyting they say as "Fact".

Sorry E.D.
I'm going with Alan Keyes and the new America's Independent Party. Your party has been a disappointment.

Obama Fact in His Own Words
"I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets." - Barack Obama (Dreams of My Father)
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Obama followers say that:

Mentor Wright
Saul Alinsky
William Ayers
Fr.Pfleger
Louis Farrakhan
Tony Rezco
Frank Marshall
and many others 'WERE NOT CHOSEN CAREFULLY'.

Obama then faces one of two charges or both.

Obama was lying when he stated, he carefully chooses friends or Obama is so NAIVE he cannot tell when the people he associates with have a 'Bad Character'.

Either way Obama tells us he is capable of meeting with those like Ahminajead and protecting America.

I can understand why Obama will do or say anything for political expediency - I do NOT agree with that - what I cannot understand is how the Obama followers can believe Obama.

A once famous 'Cult Leader' said 'I do not really believe I am God, I just like for my followers to believe I am God'.

"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama" - Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire.
January 7, 2008.

Obama 'followers' with glassy eyed enthusiasm chant "Yes He Is".

Which speech?
Oh brother. Has the 30+ years of propaganda done it's job or what?MLK? Which speech that the good reverend stole is so wonderful? My God people. You talk about the press and the left making Obama a Messiah.Just what do you think they did when MLK was killed?
And you people are buying it? WOW. Plagiarism(big word for cheating in college{which the professors allowed because he was Black and was trying}),drinking,whoring,while under the pretense of being a preacher.He dies.Then White America produces a much needed Black American hero to help calm the masses and help the 'groovers' with their White guilt.Fast forward. Enter Obama.Stop me when I'm lying.

Many American Citizens

Many American Citizens want to 'Send A Message' to politicians by NOT voting or voting third party.

Sending a message?

We have possibly the most incompetent group of politicians in the history of America right now with a 10% or whatever approval rating.

These politicians couldn't find their 'behind' with both hands, a map, a GPS device, a flashlight and a mirror.

The solution to make America great is to send those 'Politicians' a message? and you think they will understand it? and act on it?

Whomever 'THEY' are - what 'message' are they able to comprehend? Will someone enlighten us with that 'Message'.

Are the 'Message Senders' even more NAIVE than the politicians?

somebonus @ 10:27 AM
Excellent points!

While Obama certainly connects with a large segment of the American people, I do not believe there is a majority that would vote for Obama.

The MSM has presented an all-Obama, all-the-time format, so it appears he is "the one". Most people do not agree. How many of the leftists who post here actually defend Obama? I've never seen anything other than a cursory regurgitation of the usual Socialist-Democrat talking points.

B. Hussein Obama isn't the winner the MSM is touting him to be. He's a big fish in a small socialist pond. I'd estimate less than 20% of Americans believe in socialist economics. The rest would vote simply because he's a new face, or they think they'll get something for nothing or because he's half black.

Most of the posters do NOT defend Obama. Instead, they simply attack Bush. There are no true believers in this messiah-wannabe, just dummies and ideologues.

Third Party Voters and Non Voters
Rationalizations for Obama

The complex process the human mind uses to arrive at decision-making has been the topic of many volumes.

One consensus that is generally held is the human mind can justify any decision and any action that it takes.

Rationalization is the mortal enemy of facts, logic and reason.

Rationalization is in ‘simple’ terms, a defense mechanism that attempts to explain bad decisions or behavior in a rational logical manner.

Rationalizing that a vote for any candidate that cannot win is not a vote for Obama gives us a prime example of rationalization.

Rationalizing that a ‘symbolic’ vote will teach the major parties a lesson contrasts the reality of their premise that the major parties ‘do not know what they are doing’ and ‘haven’t learned from the past’.

Teaching 'Politicians' a lesson is oxymoronic at best - Obama-Followers will vote for Obama regardless.

Third party votes at this time in history, is simply a 'proxy' vote for Obama that gives one a feeling of 'superior' Patriotism, I guess.

Rationalizing that ones closely held principles trump the safety and wellfare of America and its citizens is little different from those who want America destroyed.

Those who say we need to return to the Constitution that many Americans have left or attempted to destroy will be best accomplished by giving Obama and Liberals their desires and wishes to control America, is akin to giving children matches and gasoline.

The children will surely learn a lesson if survival succeeds in overcoming the odds.

Rationalizers - What exactly is your 'Recovery Plan'?

Rationalizing that an Obama presidency will be good for America in the long run defies facts, logic and reason.

DavidMac
Good observations. There are a few enthusiastic defenders. Ebony and Nellie. I think Slacker actually thinks he will do a good job. But the anti-Bushies far outnumber the positive supporters. No wonder. There is little to defend. About the best they can do is read his web site. Oh sure. A politician's platform is set in concrete.

Hope
"He who lives upon hope will die fasting." Ben Franklin

In the 5th century B.C., Socrates said: "I am a citizen, not of Athens, or of Greece, but of the world."

"I have no country to fight for; my country is the earth, and I am a citizen of the world." Eugene V. Debs 1855 - 1926

"Admiration is the daughter of ignorance." Ben Franklin

Just thought I'd throw these thoughts out. BO is not the first to claim his famous words. Which I have to ask myself: Does BO have an original thought in his head?

For those of you who think that BO is the antichrist lok up the 27 Characteristics of the antichrist.

Obama's CHANGE
Obama's CHANGE

Do you believe that Obama's CHANGE will CHANGE all the good CHANGE that resulted from America's consistent CHANGE, and forcing the wrong CHANGE that will negatively CHANGE our lives, which will CHANGE our thinking that Obama's CHANGE is the wrong CHANGE because Obama's CHANGE is backed by socialistic CHANGE philosophy that has caused the Soviet Union to CHANGE from Obama's CHANGE to CHANGE based on capitalism, which then may CHANGE Obama's CHANGE back to CHANGE based on capitalistic CHANGE that Americia is based on!!!!


Marine 2:31 post
What you said in your post is exactly one of the reasons why the 2nd Ammendmend was written. To prevent the very government that BO, Pelosi, and Reid propose for America.

Obamas "gaffs"
Obamas supposed gaffs are reallyhis true feelings and view of America. He may, God forbid, be our President but he will never be an American.

Retired Greek
When the existing President and Congress has approval ratings as low as they are, it goes without saying that Americans are not enthusiastic about anyone who comes from the culture of DC, whether Obama or McCain. American's, in fact, rarely vote for sitting US Senators for President. The very fact that neither Obama nor McCain can take a lead and hold it, simply confirms that many people would clearly prefer a third choice.

You assert that voting for one or the other will have dire conseuences. Others assert that we've already suffered the consequences, and neither candidate can or will reverse them in any meanignful way. They, as as result, are looking to the next elections in two and four years - not to this one.

Their bet is that the loss by the GOP of the Presidency, in combination with increased Democratic majorities in the house and senate, will force the GOP to become an effective opposition with a message that they can then support, and this will be a more rapid road to re-establishing the conservatives in power than would be the case if McCain is elected. They believe, after all, that for McCain to accomplish anything, he will have to accomodate the non-conservative 1/2 of the GOP in Congress, as well as the Democrats. This, they believe, will strengthen the Democrats in the majority - not weaken them, because responsibility for policies will be shared. Whereas if McCain is not elected, whatever transpires in the next two and four years can be blamed solely on the Democrats. Further, they believe that even if McCain wins today, the laws of elections make it almost certain that a Democrat will win in 4 years. But if you break the cycle now, the GOP can get rid of their current crop of leaders, and come back with a message and a platform that will carry the next presidential election and keep it for 8 years. And this, to them, is more important than the next 4 years. Thus, your dilemma.

Fred
Why do you feel this nation is an embarassment?

Give proof that this is so.

Are you part of moveon.org? (never mind, you would just lie about any connection anyway).

You remind me of the Indian in Little Big Man who rode his horse backwards.

impeach bush
more rantings from a hapless and unhappy crone who cites larry flynt as a reliable source for information.

Does reading hustler fixate your fantasies about the woman you wish you could be

impeachbush
[b]mpeachbush [b/]
[u]"Let us never forget ..."

... that George W. Bush is the grandson of a Nazi sympathizer and financier!!!!!

Isn't THAT worse than Saul Alinsky?[u/]

Gee,, thanks for that releveant comment.It adds so much to the discussion!

While you're at it, you might want to shut down Planned Parenthood, Ford Motor Company and sully the memory of Charles Lindberg, as he, Henry Ford and Margaret Sanger all found Hitler's National Socialism appealing on some level.

But then, isn't holding America today accountable for standards and social attitudes that are decades and even centuries old something liberals are especially good at?

Mr. & Mrs. Obama need
to have a sit down because they sure are contradicting one another.

Mrs. O has never been proud of her country until just recently while her hubby has never seen it so bad as today. Hmmmm.

What does it even mean?
Besides the fact that "no longer what it could be, what it once was" is a grammatical nightmare, it is philosophically confusing.

Is Obama saying that America was once a better place, and needs to return to its traditional values? That is a very reactionary position, which one would not expect from a candidate running on the mantra of "change".

The idea that America is radically different after GWB's presidency is sheer nonsense. Yes, 9/11 forced some changes, which would have occurred regardless of who was in charge. But compared to the changes that took place under LBJ or Reagan, Bush has been a fairly benign president. In fact, American in 2008 is not all that different from America in 1992 or 2000.

The cashier
Electing Ovomit is like asking the cashier with 6 months experience to run the company. If your a shareholder you want to dump the stock fast. If Ovomit can be baffled by a 7 year old, I don't know that I trust him trying to implement foreign policy for our country. I don't trust the "I know better how to spend your money than you know how to spend it" mentality of the libs. The guy who wants us to put air in our tires, because that will bring down oil prices. The loser libs just can't figure it out. They are so much smarter than the rest of us that the referendum on President Bush and VP Cheney with the House and Senate going to the dems has helped the country how? Anyone? No, I thought not. And this President who is supposedly the dumbest guy in the room, has accomplished several of the things he set out to do, unlike his predecessor, who rode the coat tails of Republicans and accomplished nothing. So, if Ovomit is elected, sadly the nation will get what it deserves, more terrorist attacks, out of control inflation, high unemployment, and so on.

impeach bush
just like the delusional socialist you claim america is not what you think it should be but just like the fraudulent messiah can't cite one example to make your case.

But just to help you out I will provide a few examples of things wrong with america that will help your argument.

The teachers unions and the disaster they have created in the public schools. This group faithfully backs all dims running for elected office and the dims makes sure they are a protected group that is allowed to protect teaching jobs but also lets them continue to turn out indcotrtinated students whop excell at self esteem but are essentially fiunctionally illiterate.

The trial lawyers and their hold on america and the added costs they put on every product and service we use to cover the costs extorted by the lawyers. Again loyal supporters of the dims and another protected special interest group of the dims.

The failed entitlement plantation that the dims continue to fully support and even after some $44 trillion spent to end poverty, the dims fully feel should be expanded.

The dims and their messiah who says more affirmative action programs are needed and they must also receive many more of our tax problems.

The dims and their messiah and their plans to give citizenship to the millions of illegals here. How many cities run by dim mayors are listed as sanctuary cities where illegals can break our laws and yet still can't be returned to their country of origin.

But in the messiah all their programs bear fruit with the messiah, an affirmative action candidate who only understand more govt programs that will grow already failed govt programs but will call for a higher tax burden.

This will give you an idea of how the dims have failed america and turned it into the mess we find ourselves mired in

Redlac et al
Redlac wrote: "...But if you break the cycle now, the GOP can get rid of their current crop of leaders, and come back with a message and a platform that will carry the next presidential election and keep it for 8 years..."
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Redlac, the main point I will make is that anyone has the right to vote for whomever and for whatever reason.

That being said, what is the 'Recovery plan' these citizens propose?

Woodrow Wilson
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Graduated Federal Income tax.
Federal Reserve Act with 'fiat money'.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Social Security.
Progressive Income Taxes.
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Lyndon B. Johnson
The War on Poverty.
Maintaining 'Collective' security.
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The 'Theoritical Plan' of regaining control of Congress after several years of Marxist Liberal madness and THEN DO WHAT.

That hasn't worked well in the past and will NOT work in the future.

After Obama deploys his 20 city empowerment program which will care for the citizens from "birth to college" how will that be reversed.

I want to return to the Constitution and Bill of Rights BUT the recovery theory has never worked before and to try it again is the DEFINITION OF INSANITY.

We need a new strategy and I believe it must start at the lowest levels NOT the highest.
1) Conservatives on School Boards.
2) Conservatives on municipal and local governments and judges.
3) Conservatives at the State government levels and judges.
4) Conservatives in the Congress and Senate.
5) Conservative President.
6) Conservative Supreme Court.

It will be a long and arduous task that will take many years to reverse Liberalism.

The problem is that Conservatives want a 'Silver Bullet' and do it in one election.

Elect Obama an 'kiss] America goodbye if it is NOT already too late.

Retired Geek
I think you are at your absolute best today, Sir!

Notice to TH posters

impeachbush is a 'follower' of Dennis Kuchinich.

impeachbush is the definition of a 'Space Cadet'
he started trying to impeach President Bush before he was elected - don't waste time or energy on him.

"The smell of roses drew him out to my balcony where, when he looked up, he saw a gigantic triangular craft, silent, and observing him. It hovered, soundless, for 10 minutes or so, and sped away with a speed he couldn't comprehend. He said he felt a connection in his heart and heard directions in his mind." Shirley Maclaine

"The energy of the stars becomes us. We become the energy of the stars. Stardust and spirit unite and we begin: one with the universe, whole and holy. From one source, endless creative energy, bursting forth, kinetic, elemental; we, the earth, air, water and fire-source of nearly fifteen billion years of cosmic spiraling." Dennis Kucinich

"In our soul's Magnificent, we become conscious of the cosmos within us. We hear the music of peace, we hear the music of cooperation, we hear music of love. In our soul's forgetting, we become unconscious of our cosmic birthright, blighted with disharmony, disunity, torn asunder from the stars in a disaster ..." Dennis Kucinich

Dennis Kucinich now supports creating a Department of Peace. "I have a holistic view of the world," he explains. "I see the world as interconnected and interdependent and that leaves no room for war." He is also friends with Shirley MacLaine, who is the godmother of his daughter and attended his third wedding in 2005.

Dennis Kucinich introduced a bill to ban space-based and other exotic weapons, including "radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies . . . for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such populations."

The Dollar
Just tomaybe change the subject for a minute.

Just came from the bank where I saw that the Euro is still falling for the last six months against the dollar.

Hewitt is right
Obamanitwit - the one campaigning in all 57 states - is a radical left-wing socialist and a radical anti-Constitution Alinsky/Soros puppet.
The Democrat Party is now a radical leftist group bent on destroying our democracy and replacing it with socialism. Pelosi and Reid fold to their pressures.
Obama is a narcissist - a self-centered and pathetically lost soul, who finds his definition in the eyes of terrorists like Ayers and haters like Wright.
Obama must be rejected totally. He doesn't like the USA and has no understanding of fellow Americans. We are not bitter or angry, but Obama is - his pathetic psychological "dream" autobiography makes clear Obama has no moral or ethical center because he has no personal center - he does not know who he is, but makes himself up as he goes along. He and Edwards have empty inflated egos - but seek power for their own self-importance and grandeur.
McCain loves the USA and has proven it through action.

Afterall Michelle...
..said America is a downright mean country in 2008. Looks like Barack has been listening to the wife again.

80 % percent...
...or whatever may say America is on the wrong track. With Obama we will be off the track and laying in a ditch, burning.

Fred
I cannot speak for the rest of the 80%, but as one of them that gets polled about every two weeks, I gave my answer because I am fed up with that coward Nancy Pelosi. She abusses her power and runs like a mad dog when the heat is on instead of facing what she deems as truth.

My vote had nothing to do with Bush, but everything to do with Reid and Pelosi.

The 100% Solution
If 80% now say we are on the wrong track,a few months of the Magnificent One will make it unanimous.

Summers thank you

I thought you did well yesterday with that 'twit' Akquai or however he spells his name.

He says he has a PHD in Marxist studies? he doesn't know jack sh!t about Marxism.

Do Not Grow Weary In Doing Good!

Love it or leave it Obama
Personally I like to see him leave.
I think the question should read "Do you think the country is headed in the right direction?" and "Why?"
Because the Democrat majority is doing NOTHING and keeping real American elected officials from doing their jobs!

Did You Know?

A Democrat School Board unanimously voted for a Muslim School to be built and operated on government owned property in Fairax County VA?

Fairfax County Democrat head of the Board of Supervisors Gerold Connolly approved this! He and his fellow dems were on board with the agenda.

Connolly will be the Democratic candidate for Congress in that district and supports Obama-Messiah.

Other Islam Schools in Virginia.

Al Kufa School, Roanoke, VA
Al Qalam School, Springfield, VA
Islamic Saudi Academy, Alexandria, VA
El-Iman Learning Center, Baileys Crossroads, VA
Al Quba Islamic School, Newport News, VA
IIAS, Fairfax, VA
MEC, Great Falls, VA
The American Open University, Falls Church, VA
The Washington Islamic Academy, Alexandria, VA

Did You Know That?

Islamic schools in Virginia use textbooks that teach it is permissable to kill?

"The authors of a 12th-grade text on Quranic interpretation state that apostates (those who convert from Islam), adulterers and people who murder Muslims can be permissibly killed.

The authors of a 12th-grade text on monotheism write that "(m)ajor polytheism makes blood and wealth permissible," meaning that a Muslim can take with impunity the life and property of someone believed guilty of polytheism. According to the panel, the strict Saudi interpretation of polytheism includes Shiite and Sufi Muslims as well as Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists.

A social studies text offers the view that Jews were responsible for the split between Sunni and Shiite Muslims: "The cause of the discord: The Jews conspired against Islam and its people. A sly, wicked person who sinfully and deceitfully professed Islam infiltrated (the Muslims)."

Obama will probably send funds to these 'faith based' ministries.

John @1:16 post
After reading your post it really hit me. The change that Obama wants is that we are no longer the greatest nation in the world. I really believe that the America BO wants to go back to is before the first Thanksgiving Day when people were poor and starving. Then those crazy indians had to step in and spoil everything and teach them how to work for their food.

RedStater
Wasn't Margarat Sangers sole purpose of starting Planned Patenthood to wipe out the black race in America????

He can't say what he thinks
What he thinks is general, vague thoughts constructed by radical ideology. He can't say those thoughts because he knows the public will never accept them. They believe we must build a utopia of justice and equality, in which no achievement benefits the achiever, but all action is performed for the equal benefit of all. Also, everybody must be permitted to do whatever they choose, because only Fascists restrict choices -- unless a Progressive thinks that what somebody else chooses is greedy and selfish, in which case restricting it is fine.

Of course, this has nothing whatsoever to do with what the nation was intended to be, nor what the Constitution protects.

A Progressive leader in recent interview at Netroots Nation opined that if McCain appoints judges who interpret the Constitution to mean what it's authors intended it to mean, America would become "unrecognizable." I'm still trying to wrap my head around that: is this an admission that the nation right now no longer resembles what the Constitution's authors intended it to look like?

It's certainly an admission that what the Progressives intend is something very different from what the Constitition's authors intended.

I think it's time for Obama to echo these words: "Give me four years and you will not recognize America." Sound familiar?

Unelectable!
as Hillary Clinton professed.Poster #16 got it just right..from where I sit today,only a greater power can save us from this imposter.

th regs sound like a bumch of ole women
I really sad actually to come in here and listen to the lunatic rantings of the far right on Dem. Prez nominee Sen. Barack Obama. What's obvious to me is the more successful this man is in his quest to win the potus, the more nuttier the comments coming from the fringe right wing conservatives.

Even the pundits such as D. Limbaugh have taken on this lunacy calling Obama a "threat to the republic who should scare the pants off of 70% of all americans."?

That begs too offer exactly WHAT the heck do these right wingers expect to happen if Obama is elected POTUS?

Well to hear them tell it:

"Obama (the real obama)is actually a closet dictator with ties to radical medeastern islamofascist such as Osama bin Laden and Hamas and also u.s leftist radicals such as Rev. Wright, William Ayers and Louis Farakahn, who all hate the U.S. and want to destroy it.
Furthermore Obama, Perlosi. Reid and the Clintons have a secret plan to overthrow the U.S. government, tear up the consitution and rewrite it, and finally covert the U.S. system of government to one party Marxist socialistic communism with Obama installed as dictator.
The Republican Party would be outlawed and it's leaders and followers either killed or exiled.


What's really scary is that the rightwingers ACTUALLY BELEIVE THIS LUNACY.

left dangle
ah, we hear more mutterings from the cry baby racist, back to accuse all that don't worship your messiah as blatant intolerant racists

Believe this. . . .
Dem or Rep you must believe Bro O is not qualified to carry Bill Clinton's briefcase. He is glib, but he could never match Ronny. Do you think if he was POTUS at 911 he would have stopped dead other attacks which were in the making.

He called Iraq a tiny nation, implying it was a mosquito compared to America. He was not around for Japan, N Korea, Nam. All tiny nations that killed many of our boys.

Did you know 200,000 US Yankee Soldiers died to free the slaves? That must not be in black history books.

How can you date and marry a woman who is anti-american and listen to a half black Hitle Preacher for 20 years and not know? Bah!
Don Jones

Animal @ 3:16 PM
Margaret Sanger believed in eugenics which has the goal of producing a superior race through birth control. Racial purity (read: no negroid blood) was in vogue in the USA from the late 1800's through the end of WW II.

The Nazis believed in sterilization of the mentally ill, homosexuals and others not deemed of appropriate stock which was needed to enhance the Germanic race.

The various "progressives" (socialists) in America were in lock-step with Hitler's eugenic plan. After WW II, eugenics fell out of favor and the progressives changed their name to "liberal" around 1950.

The progressives now revise history, trying to pin eugenics on conservatives.





























The Nazis used

DavidMac
You have shown who the real racists are. Why blacks hang onto a party that does not have their best interests in mind is beyoud me.

One of the reasons for the press to pick a black man (only half because there is no way the libs would allow a 100% black person run) is because they were loosing much of the black vote. They had to do something to get the black vote back. (By the way, this is a liberal success).

Leftist Angle
You wrote what we conservatists think your side wants to do to America. You are not far from right.

They don't want to destroy our country,though.They just want to turn it into a Marxist/socialist third world country with Obama at the helm.

Why do you torture yourself reading sane posts? They can't make sense to someone so devoid of common sense.

Just stay at Huffy/kos and read something that you can understand and sgree with. We can sure do without your kind of venom.


Hey Leftie
Perhaps you should have been paying better attention but your boy Obama PUBLICLY claimed the not so good reverend was his "mentor" and friend. Do you understand the meaning of "mentor"? But once the Reverend Wright became known to the voting public Mr. BHO decides to distance himself from him. Tell us Mr. I know better than you, was this a true change of heart OR political expediency? Obama is fooling nobody who is not conviniced of his being the next Messiah. You judge a man by his actions and Obamas all point to radical beliefs that are NOT mainstream America. Everytime he opens his mouth he loses more votes. No wonder he ran away to Hawaii. He should remain silent for the rest of the campaign to retain votes.

Obama's United States of America
American voters need to ask themselves just what does Barack Obama really stand for — and if we listen carefully to what he says . . . time and time again,Obama tells us that most everything about the United States is WRONG and he is GOING TO FIX IT. Obama repeatedly says he is determined to bring about "economic justice." That simply means the redistribution of wealth as determined by the government. That, American voters, is the fundamental principal of socialism.

Our nation is facing serious challenges that will require our next president to bring leadership, experience and judgment to the Oval Office. In less than 90 days, America will elect the next POTUS and Barack Obama's extreme liberal agenda and complete inexperience in global affairs will only endanger this county.


tom
I still don't accept that messiah has stopped any association with wright. It was missus hatred who picked pout wright's church to begin with and she fully accepts the black nationalism espoused by wright/cone

whereas b hussein left wright's church, he never really denounced him or farrakhan or fleger or ayers. Being disappointed with what someone says doesn't really say you disagree with their statements especially after sitting and listening and agreeing with wright for the 20 years he was a member of that church.

Bottom Line for Repubs/con..
if you dont like obama, then dont vote for him. its that simple..if it makes you feel better to come in here and rant a bunch of off the wall conspiracy theories then so be it ..knock yourself out indeed..for in the end it really matter because come Nov 08 YOURE GONNA LOSE BIGTIME..ROTFLMAO

be prepared for a long period being the MINORITY PARTY OUT OF POWER..

conservatism is DEAD.

leftdangle
so the whining racist again returns to repeat his idiocy. But it is you who are the hapless moron who continues to tell conservs you are voting for the messiah, as if any of us care.

But then again you already reside in a state being destroyed by dim/lib/leftist policies. Of course if you actually worked you would probably be upset about the tax burden but living in mommy's basement gives you the benefit of never needing to care care of your yourself.

Enjoy your useless life as you obviously contribute nothing to society

Left Angle
It really is simple...I don't like Obama and I won't vote for him. You listed all the theories and I just agreed with them.

Have you ever heard of counting your chickens before they hatch? That is what you are doing. Keep at it. The joke may be on you.

Barack Hussein has not won. The Clintons are not finished with him. They may have some surprises for him in a few days. You don't want to look silly,now do you?

You only wish conservatism was dead. We are alive and well. Just got snookered by liberals and the left-wing MSM,this time.

We are like pop-up dolls. Knock us down and we just pop right up again. We are good and we are proud. A conservative cannot look on sin,that's why we steer clear of liberals.

Rowly
When I read the words of leftangle two passages of the Bible come to mind, Isaiah 5:20 and Proverbs 17:15.

They say 'Birds of a feather flock together."

Leftangle likes BO because he is just like him. They hold the same value system.

Somewhere in lefts life something went wrong and he became the way he is. Everything he says I hear from other libs almost word for word. They think as a unit and not as individuals.

ANIMAL...YOU SAY THAT..BO
AND HIS ILK HAVE THE SAME VALUE...WHAT ARE THEY?
IAM STILL LOOKING FOR THEM...MAYBE IF I LOOK IN THE CLOSET I WILL FIND 'EM!
ELVIS

America not what it once was?
In what way?
Two world wars
The Great Depression
Prohibition
Jim Crow
Women denied the right to vote, have credit or own property in their own names
The Cold War
"Stagflation"
SALT I and II
Price controls/monopolies on oil, airlines and Ma Bell
Slavery
The Civil War
The Carter "energy crisis"
the accompanying Misery Index
70% taxation above a certain income level

And Oblahma thinks that this is what he wants to go back to?

Funny, I always thought we tried to do better than everybody else in the world, since we have none of the above with us now. I'm afraid that far too much of it will come back if this clown gets in there.

elvis
I vote for McCain because he holds closest to the values that I live by. The same goes for those who vote for BO.

I was once a liberal, but I started thinking about the things being taught to me. I even had a 7th grade teacher teach me about Marxism, because I got straight A's in his class. For years I thought that abortion was for the good of the mother. I thought that homosexuality was ok (after all I have 2 gay brothers).

I started noticing though that the biggest racists were those in the libs who make a living off of it like J. Jackson and his $2ooo shoes.

I started looking at the lies and deception of the left.

I could go on and on but I won't. I think someone will get the point.

Everything that I hold dear now, libs are just the opposite. I love God and country, they hate God and country (by their own actions and words they prove this.)

Libs will more than likely love what BO has planned for America. I really feel sorry for them. They are too blind to see what is coming.

animal
I looked at the two scriptures you cited. You are correct. It does make you wonder how two people see the world so differently. Each truly thinking they are right.

It is like trying to reason with a child. It is useles. We see what we want to see and how we want to see it.

It's been fun
Gotta go. Have a very rowdy grandson over.

Reading all the lib posts just reaffirms my beliefs and makes me stronger.

Goodnight everyone.



Randy
berean58@yahoo.com

What "he" wants
"he" wants a privlidged pampered life for his kids at the expense of your kids. "he" thinks his kids will live a first world life with the wealthy, he don't care if you and yours inherit the "third world" in order to accomplish this.

The Naval Task Force being assembled....
.
...for an Iranian blockade and its' attendant dangers and likelihoods will have us militarily "involved" come election time.

I see no reason to suppose his election as president although it would be a terrible thing to have to experience.

Operation "Brimstone" anybody.??.
.
.

animal...excellent post
There's not much I can say except how do you reason with mc cain on his terribls position
on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION WHICH IS CAUSING A...
A TIDAL WAVE OF PROBLEMS IN OUR STATE OF CONFUSION (CALIF.)???? A ship sinks from within!
elvis

OBAMA'S GLOBALIST CFR VISION FOR AMERICA

"According to their Web site, the Trilateral Commission consists of 350 “private citizens” from North America , the EUI and Japan how are fostering “globalization” in “the wider international system” (www.trilateral.cor). The TC, however, is just another elitist from to promote “regionalization” on the road to world government (www.afgen.com/trilateral.html). “We cannot leap into world government in one quick step,” Brezinski states. “The precondition for eventual globalization-genuine globalization-is progressive regionalization.” According to Fabian conspirators (bad word for you!), the best way to progress to global government is through building trading blocs similar to the EU. The North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) was an Establishment initiative that was pushed through congress in 1993 and became effective in 1994. Prior to passage and mocking Christopher Columbus, David Rockefeller enthused, “Everything is in place-after 500 years-to build a true ‘new world’ in the Western Hemisphere .” In the Lost Angeles Times, Henry Kissinger provided his own perspective:

NAFTA will represent the most creative step toward a new world order taken by any group of countries since the end of the Cold War, and the first step toward an even larger vision of a free trade zone for the entire Western Hemisphere…NAFTA is not a conventional trade agreement, but the architecture of a new international system.

Establishment insiders like to promote the benefits of free trade and commerce, but they are careful to leave out the parts about a ruling oligarchy, national sovereignty issues, trade deficits, immigration, job losses and increased poverty in the US








OBAMA'S GLOBALIST CFR VISION FOR AMERICA
CONT'D

…"It should be noted that Establishment insiders never refer to their bi-partisan legislation as treaties because this requires two-thirds approval in the senate. And, as Kissinger indicated, NAFTA (with 1,700 pages) is not a conventional trade agreement, but it has all the force of a treaty. Hidden in this same legislation was the creation of the World Trade Organization (WTO), which went into force in early 1995. Newt Gingrich (CFR/Bilderberg) introduced the separate WTO legislation (26,000 pages) in a lame duck session of congress (in November 1994) and described it as a “transformational moment.” Why did the House Speaker do this? He and Establishment insiders knew that the incoming republican majority Congress) including Rep. Joe Scarborough) would probably reject the WTO. The WTO was easily passed in the Democratic Congress, and now the Executive Branch has ceded authority to the WTO headquarters in Geneva , which allows the EU to outvote the US 15 to 1, and 70% of the remaining votes are in the Third world (www.wto.org)."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDpLK0e0QoU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASlETEx0T-I







Socialism is
the very opposite of individualism. Who, in their right mind, would give up the freedoms our Constitution has guaranteed us?

Obviously some are so evil in their intent to destroy American values and...

others are so incredibly stupid that they cannot see the heavy price they will pay by supporting the leftist agenda.

respnse to Left Angle
There are a few famous quotes that you should remember:

- Do not count your chickens until they are hatched

- When Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain to you) read his obit printed by mistake he simply stated that "The report of my death is an exaggeration" -- likewise the death of conservatism and conservative ideals is an exaggeration.

Obama's empty rheoteric will come home to roost and people will see that the emperor truly has no clothes on

Chicago cool
Obambi is trying to be "Too Chicago Cool".
This type of response is typical of an
inexperienced person. He can't give an answer
to a 2nd grader that would be understandable
to that 2nd grader.

He has to tear off on a tangent that has lead
to this. No Barry, in your eyes we are broken
and its because of your party's failed policy
that it is broken, in your eyes.

Barry came to Chicago in search of the jackpot that Jesse created for himself and Jesse Jr. I'm affraid Obambi is going to need a different tune if he really wants to be seen as anything other than a traveling comedy show of racism and victimology.

Postmodern Dreaming
In order to create the desired postmodern Synthesis (Global Socialism) one must drive Anti-thesis (A "Dead America") head-on into Thesis ("Ideal America"). That's the Hegelian Way! Obama and Clinton, et al, along with others on the Left are striving openly like no time before to create a religion of government in America. Given the unexpected initial popularity of Barack Obama, a fairly large segment of America is confused and discouraged enough to listen...