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Thursday, November 01, 2007
Hugh Hewitt :: Townhall.com Columnist
Federalism Matters --But To Mike Huckabee? An Interview With The Governor
by Hugh Hewitt
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After the Wall Street Journal's John Fund took a few whacks at former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, I extended the governor an invitation to appear on the radio show.  I think Huckabee has a prayer --and little else-- of being the GOP nominee, but when significant pundits have time to take a few shots at you, it is worth a closer look.

Huckabee fans have accused me of being anti-Mike for some time because of my view that the GOP race is a two man show between Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney My protests that I am just handicapping the race and not giving air time to the second tier GOPers have been unpersuasive to the Huckabee supporters, so I knew they'd be listening closely to my questions Wednesday to see if they contained an agenda.

I thus took Governor Huckabee's lead from the day, asking him about the rapist whose release he spoke in favor of and who, once released, went on to murder, about whom Huckabee had held a press conference yesterday.  I followed with questions pivoting off his interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer the night before, and then gave him a chance to rebut some of the criticisms in the Fund column, and to discuss S-CHIP and the Bush veto.

The audience was, well, overwhelmingly underwhelmed --though some Huckabee loyalists phoned and e-mailed to accuse me of perfidy (read the interview transcript for yourself)-- the clincher for many listeners came with this exchange on smoking:

HH: And the last question is do you support a federal ban on smoking as has been alleged? 

MH: No, I don’t. I support workplace clean air. But a federal ban on smoking would mean that you couldn’t smoke in your own home. I don’t care what people do in their home. But in a workplace, in our state, we passed a law which I’m very proud of, and that said that people have a right to have clean air at the workplace. I did not support a ban just in restaurants and bars because frankly, I think that the problem with that is that you’re punishing the customers. But what you have a right to do is to protect the workers in the same was you do from radon gas and a host of other carcinogens and toxic fumes, which is exactly what tobacco smoke is.  

HH: Well, I understand that from the state side, but I’m talking about the federal lawmakers getting involved in this and imposing on states a uniform standard. Do you…just for the workplace. Do you support federal laws mandating standards for workplace non-smoke environments?  

MH: I personally would on the workplace issue. If there are two or more people, and as long as anyone under the age of 21 worked in that place, there ought to be some protections for them. 

This is not the answer of a candidate who believes in federalism, and if federalism isn't a sufficient response on federal anti-smoking rules, how will it help the GOP survive the push for one-size-fits-all Hillarycare? 

There is no doubt that Mike Huckabee is a pro-life warrior.  His record on taxes during his governorship is mixed, with many cuts and some hikes, and his biggest hike was the result of a state supreme court mandate.  Huckabee's thus got a solid answer to his harshest critics in the Club for Growth.

Huckabee is clearly out of the Bush mold when it comes to illegal immigration, with a bias towards letting good folks who pose no threat to the national security stay here after the fence gets built --which is my general view as well.

But there is a real question about Huckabee's ideological commitment to the bottom-line for many conservatives:  Are the states an appendage and an afterthought, or do they matter as a crucial bulwark against creeping big government impulses?

Governors, especially long-serving governors like Mike Huckabee, should be the most experienced and most forceful advocates for a robust federalism.  Huckabee's willingness to cede control of the smoking issue to the feds is a very troubling indication of an indifference to a crucial constitutional principle that needs buttressing not diminishing as Campaign 2008 opens.

The governor promised a return visit, one not limited the dozen minutes I was rationed, and I look forward to it.

But for now, those suspicions about Mike Huckabee's conservative credentials seem more solid than they were even two weeks ago.

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Evangelical vote
Most polls show the Evangelical vote split 5 ways. Huckabee has significant resistance from fellow Evangelicals who do not want him as VP let alone President.

The biggest hurdles are money and GOTV. He lacks a plausible strategy for getting the nomination. Worse yet he lacks the money, time and infrastructure to implement a winning strategy if he had one.

NewsWeek has a new hit piece out on him. His negatives are beginning to surface. The lefty blogs are talking about skeletons and destroyed hard drives from 100 state computers when he left office. They are also talking about money scandals.

Well that sheds some light on
Huckabee. I had heard that he was a Bush clone and this seems to support that.

Federalism or Anti-Federalism
Federalism has become a term used for those who support smaller government. I guess it is just laziness because the real term is Anti-Federalism as in the Federalist/Anti-Federalist papers. Where the Federalist supported strong federal government and few individual rights and freedoms and the "Bill of Rights" was advocated and pushed after the ratification of the constitution by the Anti-Federalist movement. Really want to read the history of our government read the Federal/Anti-Federalist papers. The difference can be found in two famous names Jefferson and Hamilton.

For all the talk I doubt a true Anti-Federalist could get elected today, there are just too many factions getting in on the payoff to allow it. However, I would hope that almost any one of the Republican candidates would be better than any of the Democratic candidates on this issue. I would love to see smaller government, much smaller.


Post 2
I live in Maine and we have strong anti smoking laws, in Bangor for instance you can't even smoke in your own car with a child aboard. Not that this law has high enforcement. Like the Drivers license thing in NY, where DMV workers have vowed to throw out illegal aliens that come looking for a license. I am afraid they my find themselves in the same place as those border patrol people that did their job, that is they are in jail. I am a non smoker and at one time by law all that was necessary was a non smoking section in restaurants. This was a joke, the non smoking sign followed the patron that didn't smoke. Finally by free market forces it was hard to find enough non smoking places and many restaurants went totally non smoking with out any law to tell them to do so. But big brother lurked and made it unlawful to smoke in any public place. Again from a personal non smoking point of view this was good and bad, this made all the smokers congregate outside, leaving a stinky entrances to most buildings and walking through a cloud of smoke to enter. This may penalize the company, I sure don't want to walk through a cloud of dirty smoke. As much as I like some of the results of the law, it is intrusive and the state probably has no business telling people where they can smoke and where they can't. But where does it start and stop. Do we want people wondering the streets with bottles of whisky, I can't see that as very good. Do we want our teenage kids to have direct access to alcohol, not that they can't get it anytime they want it. Laws of all kinds offer slippery going and law makers seem never to understand the consequences of a law until it is too late and appealing one is harder than getting one on the books.




Post 3
I did see an interview given by Glenn Beck with Mike Huckabee. I liked him and Glenn isn’t an easy interview but Hugh seems to be a bit more critical. This is a good thing because the border thing did come up with Glenn, I was happy with his answer, but never thought of the amnesty part of the question and apparently Glenn didn’t either. I don’t think any President at this time can make government smaller, which is unfortunate. But I would at least like to see one swear that they won’t let it get any bigger. That is when something new is found necessary something old and useless has to go. It isn’t a great answer but the political realities are just too strong to buck at this point. The Elephant is the size of the moon and you can’t really hide it or feed it but it still demands as much food as you can provide it.

I am glad to say there isn’t a good Democratic choice, which means I have to finally come to a decision about a Republican candidate. I like most of them and dislike all of them on one or two or three issues. People like Glenn Beck are letting me down when they can’t flush out a simple concept like amnesty from a potential candidate. The debates are rather unsatisfying other than from a presidential look point of view. So how do we find out what these people will do once elected. I ask because I really don’t know.


Almost forgot
All complaints should be directed to barrym@tds.net

COLLECTIVISM WITH MUSIC
If it were possible to have a HUCK // HILLARY ...ticket we would get ...collectivism with music.A vote for Huckabee or Rudy is only a vote for Hillary.They can not win.WAKE UP AND SMELL THE POSTUM.Only Ann Romney can stop Hillary.

Where candidates establish power
That Huckabee, Paul or any of the other would-be presidents, either Republican or Democrat, are collectivists in their own ways is a foregone conclusion.

Candidates establish power in the bailiwicks they seek, according to the principles they accept.

If you want to support the rights of individual states, you become a candidate for state office and fight for state's rights.

If you want national collectivist rights, you become a candidate for national office and fight for national rights.

The only exception would be someone who would explicitly seek national office for the sole purpose of dismantling the national system and restoring the US to the Articles of Confederation or some similar setup like the post-soviet CIS.

Consequently, EVERY candidate for president is a collectivist of some sort; whether the hideous national collectivism of a ghouliani or the international collectivism of a perverted billary.

I'm consistently amazed that anti-collectivists still fall for the presidential hoax every four years, grasping for someone who promises a "new federalism" but who actually wants to supplant the existing tyrant with their own new collectivist tyranny.

I like Huckabee
I really do. If the vote were today I would vote for him.

I am a bit disappointed about his non-answers to some of Hugh's more pointed questions. Of course, this isn't unique to Huckabee, but it's still frustrating.

Next time Hugh has him on, I would like him to address the Fair Tax. Hugh has been very critical about it, but he won't debate it. His arguments against it are week. This is the strongest plank in Huckabee's platform, and hopefully it will get more play than a federal smoking ban. If Huckabee does in fact believe this is a federal issue, he's got problems with a lot of conservatives if not all.

Smoking Ban
Does the smoking ban in workplaces have to do with health or federalism?

If the Government is forking over billions of dollars for intervention to those who are dying of chronic disease, then doesn't the government have a special interest in decreasing that amount by enforcing sensible policies like a smoking ban at workplaces.

I know Hugh you're gonna ask, well then should the government ban fatty foods? No. People can burn those calories by living a healthy lifestyle. When people start buying more healthy food items, the free market will correct itself by following the people's wishes. Also unlike smoking, me eating a twinky won't give another person a heart attack. I'm being logical here, right??

We can't compare fatty foods and cigarette smoke, they are two different things.

One can't eliminate the bad effects of smoking by running a marathon. Cigarette smoke is toxic and it only worsens the health care crisis that this country is facing. It not only affects the person who is smoking, but also the people around that person. I'm sick and tired of walking in the front door of my workplace smelling cigarette smoke.

Sometimes, one has to use logic in solving problems. You can't always be so legalistic in theories, these theories look good on paper but negates the actual 'human condition' component. That's where the 'grey' regions come to play.

The far right and far left don't like him. That's fine with me, I'm glad they don't. I want a president who will heal the divisive politics and use logic and reason to solve the tough problems in Washington.

Gov. Huckabee has the best shot of beating Hillary. You better believe it my friend. Many evangelicals, independents, moderate republicans, and moderate democrats will support him. He's the man for our times.



I can't help it
Every time I see Huckabee and he opens his mouth I see and hear Gomer Pyle. Against Hillary, he is the weakest of the field, besides Fred.

Bravo Hewitt!
I don't agree with you on much, Mr. Hewitt, but you certainly exposed Huckabee to be a socialist in conservative clothing.

I think you should have other fringe candidates like Ron Paul on your show. If for nothing else to boost your ratings.

669 commuted sentences
Come on Hugh, it's more than Wayne Drumond. There is Denver Williams and 10 other convicted murderers.

Police put there lives on the line and Investigators work endlessly to get these animals off the street in a system that gives the criminals every benefit of any dout.

It's hard enough to get a conviction with todays liberal judges. The last thing the public needs are leaders that put these scum back on the street.

Huckabee Campaign
RIP

President Huckabee??????
I can't seem to keep a straight face when that rolls off my tongue - LOL!!!

HUCKABEE Story on worldnetdaily.com
PA Republican, thanks and please keep putting it out there.

When Arkansas legislators introduced a bill that actually put the interests of Arkansans above that of illegal aliens, Mike Huckabee castigated them and told them he was drinking a different kind of "Jesus Juice" (his words as the quotation marks are meant to denote). How completely obnoxious and feckless could he have been. And, did Mr. Huckabee's charity extend to the those who were victim to the manifold permutations of illegal alien crime while he was governor?

We don't need a so-called big government social conservative who past words and actions the word dubious doesn't even begin to describe.

Someone who believes in limited government and believes that the government's first role is to promote the general welfare of the citizenry by actually securing our borders would be a good first step.

Page one of worldnetdaily.com, "Legality of Huckabee's Mexican Consulate deal questioned", extra, extra, read all about it.

Take a page out of fellow quisling Sam Brownback's book and quit.

ex-Wyomingite
ex-Wyomingite, your point makes no sense.

We are talking about smoking here. I didn't talk about invading anyone's bodies or dumping elderly folk.

A smoking ban has a lot of public support. The only folk who don't support it are smokers and libertarian theorists.

Libertarianism and Communism eventhough very different are both utopian ideas. It will never come to pass in reality.


Tracking poll
The latest Ras tracking poll suggests that the Huck boomlet has run it course. Huck is back to 5th at 10 %. This poll has always been Huck's most friendly poll. He is dropping.

Fred is drooping to 15 with Romney and McCain at 14. It is a virtual tie for 2nd now. This is the lowest Fred has been since June.

The justification for Fred's candidacy is breaking. He can not beat Rudy. He can not win the South. Romney now leads SC. RAS comments indicate Romney may have the best shot at the nomination.

Like Hillary Rudy has not been hit hard on his negatives much less his skeletons. It will get very interesting from here.


RealClear Cherry picking the polls
Okay RealClear just dropped the Winthrop poll out of their SC average. They often play games with their averages. They have had a Fred bias from the beginning.

It won't stop Fred's fall. To bad RealClear can not be honest about the race and reporting it. To bad they have to manipulate the data to help their guy.

None of the GOP candidates
is a true conservative. Indeed, the conservative movement has gone totally off track with the election of George W. Bush, an internationalist, big government politician. Sure, he cut taxes, but then he proceeded to spend like Lyndon Johnson.

Mike Huckabee is simply another elite who will do more damage to our nation. What we need is someone independent of the two parties, the PACs, the corporations, and the corrupt lobbyists. If you care about what is going to happen in 2008, I urge you to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG.

You can view my positions on the most important issues challenging our nation, and you will find real, common sense solutions that keep American sovereignty pre-eminent and restores the Constitution, rule of law, and will of the people as the principles by which we govern ourselves as a free people!

Visit the site, what's to lose? The elites have already stolen our inheritance. Why give any of them more opportunities to tear down our great country. Thanks, Joe


Illegal Immigration
I was leaning towards Huckabee more for VP, but started hearing things about his illegal immigration views now confirmed here - "Huckabee is clearly out of the Bush mold when it comes to illegal immigration, with a bias towards letting good folks who pose no threat to the national security stay here after the fence gets built --which is my general view as well." Hugh, you're just as nuts as Huckabee with this view and contradict yourself with that proposition - after all, "good folks" are those who don't break the law and ALL illegal aliens ARE breaking the law currently by being in the country ILLEGALLY...how then is it that they're good? If you want to help the peoples of the world have a better life, try spending your own money and time in improving life in their countries instead of wasting my money providing various benefits to those here illegally. And just so you don't think I'm heartless, I took a week of vacation and paid my way to volunteer to fit people people with eyeglasses who live in the garbage dumps of Mexico. My money, my time, their country.

One More Amnesty And We're Done
Rudy, McCain and Huckabee want to give the illegal aliens and their employers that amnesty. We must have a President who WILL enforce the law and secure the border if we are to survive as a nation.

differences
I think a number of readers here seem to confuse a crucial point. Things that should be legal when they only hurt yourself should often be illegal when they hurt others as well. For example, if you want to smoke cigarettes and get cancer, that’s your business, but if you want to smoke cigarettes and give the guy in the cubicle next to you cancer, then it becomes his business. I’ll give you another example, if you want to get drunk, it’s your business, but when you decide to get behind the wheel and endanger others, it’s becomes and should be illegal.

That’s the key difference between smoking bans at work, and smoking bans in general. The harm caused to outside people. I support the first, and an against the latter.

Fred Thompson
Rudy - not a social conservative
Romney - not a conservative and a total phoney
Huck - not a fiscal conservative

If either of those two get to be the nominee I predict a Hillary presidency. Neither will invigorate the base.

Say what you want but when it comes to the issues that conservatives really care about Fred Thompson is on the right side.

Huckabee is a major disappointment
When I first heard about Huckabee, I was intrigued about this "Conservative", turns out his conservatism is a mirage. With the exception of his support for the FairTax, he is George W. Bush lite. We do not need another big government CINO (Conservative In Name Only).

John
How do you see Fred invigorating the base if he cannot invigorate himself?!

Fred, Huck and McCain, each for various reasons are out of contention. It is now a Romney/Rudy race and if you can't see it, you're not paying attention.

For starters, how do any of them overcome Romney in Iowa, NH or SC?

Picking nits
I think if the only problem you have with a candidate is that he is not a staunch federalist (based off a spurrious topic)then I suppose Huckabee has a good shot.

I believe that if you were to poll the American people today whether they knew they lived in a federalist republic, they would ask you what that meant. Yes, Conservatives believe in federalism as a bedrock priniciple, but we only make up about 24% of the American public. That means that 76% of the American people are not as afraid of the Federal Government, and you can tell this by the honus they but on President Bush after Katrina.

When it comes down too it, if a candidate scores high on everything else besides federalism, especially if it is based on an inane topic like "outlawing cigarette smoking in a public place", I think I can vote for that guy.

Remember we are not voting for a Libertarian, we are voting for a Republican.

Picking nits
I think if the only problem you have with a candidate is that he is not a staunch federalist (based off a spurrious topic)then I suppose Huckabee has a good shot.

I believe that if you were to poll the American people today whether they knew they lived in a federalist republic, they would ask you what that meant. Yes, Conservatives believe in federalism as a bedrock priniciple, but we only make up about 24% of the American public. That means that 76% of the American people are not as afraid of the Federal Government, and you can tell this by the honus they but on President Bush after Katrina.

When it comes down too it, if a candidate scores high on everything else besides federalism, especially if it is based on an inane topic like "outlawing cigarette smoking in a public place", I think I can vote for that guy.

Remember we are not voting for a Libertarian, we are voting for a Republican.

Huckabee NOT a true conservative
The Values Voters Summit that cheered Huckabee was composed of Christian evangelicals who do NOT understand what true conservatism is all about.

The essence of true conservatism is a sharply LIMITED and SMALLER Federal Government, leaving maximum freedom possible to the free market (capitalism) and to the states (Federalism).

It's pretty clear by now that the Christian evangelical social conservatives don't believe in Federalism.

When Fred Thompson pointed out that a Federal Marriage Amendment would override state marriage laws, violating the principle of federalism, James Dobson blasted him saying "Who cares about that, we want it anyway."

That's why Huckabee's proposed Federal smoking ban doesn't bother them. They don't really want a limited Federal government. They don't mind if the Federal government rides roughshod over the states, so long as they are in charge of it.

An activist Federal government that crusades for "Christian values"--defining marriage, banning smoking, etc.,--is NOT what true conservatism is all about.

Hide In Plain Sight
Hugh pretends he is not shilling for Rudi by bringing Huckabee on, and then shoots him in the face to prove his point?

I reviewed all of Hugh's 2007 archive - not one article critical of Rudi's socialist policies, his pr-abortion stance, or anything for that matter.

But now there is concern we might lose out on some federalism? So where is Hugh's support for Ron Paul? A conservative and a federalist?

BANKS said it: "First Dead Fred, then Newt, now Hucksterbee. One pseudo-conservative distraction after another, dangled by the shills for RINOs."



A weasel in the works
I cringe when the only thing politicians talk about is making laws. I don't smoke but today's laws reek of intrusion. They have laws against praying for God's sake! As for smoking? A dollar cover charge in tax should be more than enough to offset the ill-effects of smoke. Wake up! It would be "impossible" to ban smoking. Hell, the jails are overflowing. Remember prohibition? Americans are rebels; let the next candidate be wise enough to keep his nose out of personal issues. I would like just one of them to make wise of that proverbial 10 foot pole when asked dumb questions.

Banks and others...Ron Paul
What is so conservative about a candidate that wants to cut and run in Iraq and use the money for social programs at home, like there are not enough of those. If he wanted to use the money and give it back to the people, I would say he was just a isolationist, which isn't a good thing in itself in this perilous and small world. I heard with my own ears, that is exactly what he said. Ron Paul is a first class nut. That is federalism and isolationism with the true meaning or the words, like Hamilton federalism and Hillary federalism.

I might be sorry this time, but email me barrym@tds.net and I might answer a Ron Paul devote but I doubt it.

OldRelayer
I left a message on your blog. Also, I read RP's book "A foreign policy of freedom" which is a very boring read, but it is also very eye opening. Not enough time to summarize now - but it will make you think no matter what.

I have been an Iraq Hawk since we went in. Part of me still is, and its not my major issue. But part of me says leave the world alone. I rail about our declining values every day - yet I justify our wars around the world based on expanding our values?

Light me up
JustinOK -- I don't like your posting style: I think it is toxic to rational minds and should be outlawed. When the government starts taking away personal freedoms, be it smoking or food choices or anything else, we are well on our way to totalitarianism. I've smoked for 40 years and never had a health problem and enjoy it very much, much more than digesting pap from do-gooders like you. Mind your own business, comrade. Le'Chaim.

Free Ramos and Compean

Ark Gov. rejects smoking ban
The truth shall set you free.

AP Online
10-26-2001
Ark. Governor Rejects Smoking Ban

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- Gov. Mike Huckabee rejected a proposed restaurant smoking ban Friday, saying that while he personally opposed smoking, the state should not infringe upon the rights of people who smoke.

The governor also questioned whether the ban was constitutional and said money spent fighting possible lawsuits could be better spent on smoking prevention efforts.

Arkansas' Health Board voted Thursday to ban smoking in businesses that make more than 70 percent of the money from food ...

If you want to read the rest, pay for it
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-47778709.html

Can anyone say OSHA?
Can you read?

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_tab le=INTERPRETATIONS&p_id=24602

It's like suggesting that we need a "hate crimes" piece of legislature to make some crimes worse than others based on some sort of "intent" interpretation. Murder is murder, air contaminants are air contaminants. If you can measure it, you can act! Just hold the sniffer up to the next office cube and and you can get the smoke out of the office! No need for "more" legislation.

If it ain't broke...
don't fix it. Me and my smoking buddy sometimes reminisce about the good-ol`-days. Some of us lit up legally behind the gym, carried pocket knives to school and only used them to trim gristle from the mystery meat in the cafeteria or shave some wood at shop class. We read Bible verses over the P.A. in the morning and road our motorcycles and Cushmans without helmets home. And now... laws and rules encroach on us like a wave of chiggers toward a nudist camp. Us old folks have our memories; what do the new kids on the block get to remember?
Way to go libphobic, keep `um on their toes.

Huckabee haters -- don't exhale.
Well stated, JustinOK. It's not just "mind your own business" when my own fresh air is at stake at work. If you want to smoke tobacco (or otherwise) keep it to yourself... don't exhale.

One correction, though. Huckabee did sign off on rules about smoking. Arkansas is breathing easier because of the ban, as are many states and localities (see Wikipedia at http://tinyurl.com/2evsr3). At this rate, a federal ban soon won't matter one way or the other...

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Huckabee signs off on rules to curtail smoking in public

BYLINE: BY SETH BLOMELEY

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (Little Rock)

August 1, 2006 Tuesday

Gov. Mike Huckabee signed rules and regulations for the state workplace smoking ban Monday, saying he was optimistic that the owners of restaurants and bars who want to be exempted from the law will eventually change their minds.

So far, 130 businesses have applied for an exemption from the law so they can allow smoking, according to the state Department of Health and Human Services. Most of the businesses are restaurants and bars, which must certify they neither employ nor allow on their premises people younger than 21.

Is he Deputy Dog ?

Classic cartoon... The sleepy little crime fighting dog... could sure whip some criminal butt.

Huckabee respects balance of powers
One addendum -- Huckabee did NOT pull a John Kerry (or a Mitt Romney) with the smoking ban in workplaces, between 2001 and 2006. He was careful not to supercede his authority in the executive branch, which should calm a lot of the conservatives (or liberals) at TownHall.com:

October 27, 2001, Saturday

Huckabee rejects ban on puffers Habit 'repulsive' but legal, he says

BYLINE: AMY SCHLESING, ARKANSAS DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE

Dr. Fay Boozman, director of the state Department of Health, said that although he supports a smoking ban in restaurants, he wasn't disappointed by Huckabee's decision.

"I think the governor was uncomfortable with an unelected body, without the direct accountability of the people, making a decision with that wide-ranging of an impact," he said.

Just another big government CINO
Why not vote for a real conservative. Vote for Ron Paul!

Check out my blog for more info.

OldRelayer...
I'll take it upon myself to refute your entire post.

What is so conservative about a candidate that wants to cut and run in Iraq and use the money for social programs at home, like there are not enough of those.

--Incorrect statements #1 and #2 here.

1) Paul wants to withdraw from an unmitigated fiasco, both in terms of lives lost and money spent. Think Bush could have sold this war if he had said there would be no WMDs, we'd lose 4000 soldiers, and it would cost in the TRILLIONS? And btw, conservatives have historically been non-interventionists.

2) Paul is the *last* Republican to vote for federal spending programs. Check his record - he's been voted taxpayer's best friend multiple times.

If he wanted to use the money and give it back to the people, I would say he was just a isolationist

--And you'd be wrong. He's a non-interventionist, and there's a significant difference. Peace and commerce with all nations, entangling alliances with none, the way Washington, Jefferson & Co. advocated.

which isn't a good thing in itself in this perilous and small world.

--so you prefer quagmires costing trillions? Do you know what the CIA has written about blowback? Our interventionism is *inviting* more terrorism.

Ron Paul is a first class nut. That is federalism and isolationism with the true meaning or the words, like Hamilton federalism and Hillary federalism.

--Where are you getting your info? Paul has voted against every unbalanced budget... and there's that "Taxpayer's Best Friend" thing too. He is the anti-Hillary. All the rest are Hillary-lite.

I might be sorry this time, but email me barrym@tds.net and I might answer a Ron Paul devote but I doubt it.

--I won't clog up your inbox. I'll just keep things here on this forum. Suffice to say, I think you're very misinformed. Here's a good place to check:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/about/

marine
First of all, OO-RAH! (Got one in the family)

Using "quisling", I'd bet you listen to Savage.

My point: Huckabee says he'd secure the border. When Glenn Beck (on his TV show) asked Huckabee if he supported 2 border fences (Mexico & Canda), he said yes.

I think the show is on mikehuckabee.com.

Huckabee/Paul '08!

Colbert on Huckabee vs Paul

My Platform...
Phase 1:

Use the power of the Executive to transition huge government agencies to each state.

Reduce/eliminate Federal income tax.

Encourage all citizens(that feel they don't pay enough in taxes) to donate more :-) And when that little experiment fails, encourage more charitible contributions.

Partially privatize SS, with transition over time to fully privatize (ala 401k)

Secure the border.

If we can't make our enemies like us, they will fear us.

Phase 2:

Deport all criminal aliens. (start small, expand out)




The only reasonable choice
is Ron Paul in 2008.

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org

Huckabee is dangerous
He is an opportunist. Phyllis Schlafly of Eagle Forum said he all but destroyed the conservatives in Arkansas, and left the Republican party in shambles.

He is not a conservative, nor a constitutionalist.
He increased taxes in Arkansas by 505 million dollars. Raised state spending by over 65 percent. Arkansas debt rose to almost 1 billion dollars.

He wanted to give free scholarships to illegal aliens. And did give them in state tuition. When a state Representative trie to make some laws against illegal aliens, he pitched a fit and said they were going to "rile up the racists and bigots" He views the illegals in the light of slaves brought here in chains, and said " the Lord is giving us a chance to make things right>"

I get my news (local) out of Arkansas, so I know what has happened there. Huckabee is a phoney.

Nanna and TJ
Nanna:

You hit the nail on the head. I don't know if it is hubris or simply demontrative of his disconnect from reality. But where was his compassion for the citizens of his state who were victims of identity theft, had their wages garnished, lost their jobs, or were the victims of violent crimes committed by his welcome guests. Some of the things he said and did were and are asinine beyond belief. It isn't about wishing anyone ill; it is all about the welfare of our citzenry and the enforcement of our laws, otherwise we devolve into anarchy.

TJ, thanks to your family member for their service, was '82 - '03 active/reserve. Remember, you can always tell a Marine, you just can't tell them much. Vidkun Quisling was a sad story. Take care.

I agree...
...with HH on this one, Huckabee is not the answer. Ron Paul is the only candidate with a record of supporting The Constitution. For those that actually want limited government he is the only choice.

Just say no to big government CINOs
Forget Mike Huckster, Dunce Hunter, and the rest of them. Vote for the only conservative running -- vote for Ron Paul!


Mike Huckster and big government
Mike Huckster wants big government. He is a big supporter of a federal prohibition on Internet poker, for example. He wants banks and ISPs to spy on Americans to prevent adults from choosing how to spend their own money!

Mike Huckabee Main Street Appeal
Hugh

They took your show off in Jacksonville. That was too bad because now I have to listen to the bombastic Mark Levin. I usually agree with him, but don't care for his style.

Why are you schilling for Mitt. Even if Mitt would get the nomination, he won't beat Hillary. There is still too much anti-mormism out there.

Mike Huckabee has main street appeal. He is not an idealogical conservative, but the only one of those is probably Hunter, who has has not gained any traction. Mike is a great communicator and he has views that will appeal to main street. Mike can win this thing. 90% of the population doesn't even know what federalis is.

Oldrelayer
I can't help but wonder how old you really are. You talk like someone who is pretty young. Your comment "Do we want people wandering the streets with bottles of whiskey?" There is nothing illegal about "wandering the streets" with whiskey. If you buy a bottle of whiskey at a liquor store, are you not allowed to walk home with it?

You talk about limited government while at the same time having a longing in your voice for more government control. Most people who have been around for a long time understand that the real slippery slope is the danger of losing your freedom to an ever more totalitarian government not a danger of too much freedom.

Vote For The Person Who Keeps Promises
If life depended on absolute truthfulness, not honesty, but truthfulness alone. Not sincerity by the pure facts how many of us would be dead?

We seem to ignore the truth, because it does not flatter our ego. So we promote our opinion as fact, our hopes as a reality, and our dreams as the only way it aught to be.

To much of what we seem to know just ain't so. Along of what we understand of the past is wrong and so today we are handicapped all because we bartered for the "the interest there is in it for me attitude.."

And now we defend that with false pretense rather than to admit our mistake. We would rather not change than to be called a Flip-flopper.

But if we stand on the truth, we respect God and all men, we honor stranger whether friend and foe.

Seek the good and ban all falsehoods,
If we could we’d all be free.

Aren’t we given reason freedom,
To choose what we shall be?

So as we reason seeking freedom,
Bound in truth and wisdom;

Never lacking understanding,
Knowing freedom rules our lives.

Honoring, respecting, loving truth,
The truth shall always makes us free.

I think I’ll vote my conscience
I’ll vote for Mr. Mitt Romney.



Huckabee is another CFR puppet!
Recently the CFR carried a speech Mike Huckabee gave at some Foreign Affairs think tank. The Neocon/CFR thought they had the deck stacked on both sides of the Presidential isle when Fred Thompson was called off the bench to go into the game. They thought they had someone who would attract the Evangelical or Social Conservative vote. They soon found out how wrong they were and now they are hoping that Huckabee will fit the Bill because Huckabee really has no "honor" he is an opportunist who says what he thinks Christian Evangelicals want to hear like Pro-life etc.

Too many people already have the goods on Huckabee and they know who and what he is so no matter how much the Liberal MSM and the Neocon/CFR try to promote him as a top tier candidate who has only raised a mere $500.000 dollars...the proof is in the pudding.

Already, people are finding it really strange that they ignore people like Dr Ron Paul who has raised more in the last quarter ....over 5 million dollars and who has twice gotten more donations than any other candidate for the United States Military. That should say something but apparently the powers that be thing the average working man and woman don't have enough intelligence to see through the EL Toro Pooh Pooh! LOL :O))

Socialists in Conservative Clothing?
Gov Mike Huckabee want's to give the American people freedom over their earnings and wants to eliminate the IRS by implementing the FairTax and all you can complain about is his stance on smoking?

A real conservative will actively promote and advance liberty, as long as it does not infringe upon anyone else's right (which btw Mike's view on smoking in the workplace takes into account), and at the same time also actively works to reduce the size, scope and reach of Federal Gov't into the private lives and business of it's citizens. Conservatives like Mike Huckabee are truly for smaller gov't and increased freedom.

Moderates will continue to support the status quo - appeasing conservative frustration with little tax cuts here and there that do help the economy a little, but do nothing to rein in the socialist, entitlement attitude & runaway spending of the Federal Gov't, or give power back to the people over their own earnings and pocketbooks.

Who are the real socialists in conservative clothing?? They are the moderates who compromise their conservative principles for the illusion of expediency, personal profits or both. You've grown way out of touch I'm afraid, Hugh. Thankfully the people of this country know better.


I Don't Like Huckabee
Why? Because he is a "Social" Liberal.

For instance, when he lost all his weight, he put Arkansas school children on a diet program produced by the state.

This is not the move of a Conservative who believes in individualism.

I am hoping this will come out before the primaries.

Huckabee
...is not in the CFR.

...does not flip like Mitt. Most detractors mention his past pro-choice stand, but don't forget, when the MA supreme court told the legislature to "fix" the marriage problem for homos, Romney didn't wait around, he issued an executive order instructing county clerks to remove the gender-specific "bride" and "groom" references from the marriage applications.

...left Arkansas with a budget surplus.

...should encourage schoolchildren to eat well, so what?

Suspicions & Spin
Apparently Hugh didn't even hear what Gov Huckabee's answers were.

HH: And the last question is do you support a federal ban on smoking as has been alleged?

MH: No, I don’t.

HH then writes: "His record on taxes during his governorship is mixed, with many cuts and some hikes, and his biggest hike was the result of a state supreme court mandate. Huckabee's thus got a solid answer to his harshest critics in the Club for Growth."

Huckabee's conservative fiscal record is not "mixed" it's rock solid. He cut taxes over 94 times as governor. He also supports the FairTax which makes Romney, Giuliani and Fred's tax plans all look like Moderate Big Gov't Republican proposals in comparision.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhAO8-vRjHA

Hugh goes on: "Huckabee is clearly out of the Bush mold when it comes to illegal immigration, with a bias towards letting good folks who pose no threat to the national security stay here after the fence gets built --which is my general view as well."

More spin folks. The truth is Hugh & Bush both are more moderate than Huckabee on Immigration. Huckabee is not from the Bush mold - he opposed Bush's plan. Get the truth here:

http://www.mikehuckabee.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Newsroom.A rticle&ID=82



Smoking
What part of: "your right to smoke stops at my nose" don't you people get?

Not in the CFR???
I think you have to have actually been out of the country the country at least once for that. Seriously, the CFR isn't a threat to anybody. It's more like an honorary fraternity for people who have been involved in foreign policy than anything else. Think of the Home Builders Association or any other professional organization where people like to mingle and chat with people of like interests except, unlike the HBA, they DON'T have a political agenda. Give a lot of money to Hillary Clinton on condition you get some minor ambassadorship nobody else wants (Uganda?) and you will end up with an invitation to join.
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