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Wednesday, October 03, 2007
Hugh Hewitt :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hillary Clinton (D.-MoveOn.org) Is A Radical
by Hugh Hewitt
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Senator Clinton can be pleasant, is certainly intelligent and is absolutely the front-runner for the Democratic nomination and perhaps even the favorite right now to succeed George W. Bush in the Oval Office.

But as the past three weeks have made abundantly clear, Hillary is no "liberal," or even a "progressive." She is a radical, and one far outside the mainstream of American politics. In the growing recognition of the true nature of her political ideology is the obvious strategy for whoever the GOP nominee is: Throw the light on what she believes and proposes and keep it there.

First, Hillary refused to denounce the MoveOn.org assault on General Petraeus' patriotism, and then doubled down by telling the general and the country that she had to suspend disbelief during his testimony --meaning of course that he ought not to be believed, meaning of course that he was lying. Such an accusation, no matter how calmly delivered, is not mainstream, but radical.

Then she announced co-sponsorship of James Webb's measure requiring the president receive Congressional approval before any use of force against Iran, indicating that she would not use force against Iran without Congressional approval, thus signaling to the mullahs that she will arrive with a fresh round of appeasement measures as her policy. She and her colleagues would rather inflict a political defeat on President Bush than join with him to send a crucial signal to the Iranian terrorist regime that the West --not just the Bush Administration, but America, along with France and Germany-- will not allow the mullahs to possess nukes. Such a view of presidential power, especially vis-a-vis an expansionist terrorist state is not "liberal" but radical.

Hillary has unveiled her far-reaching reworking of American health care, blowing right past the efforts at the state level to devise new solutions in favor of a one size fits all top-to-bottom restructuring and expansion of government mandates. This is not a "progressive" approach to problem solving, but a radical shift in authority and size of the federal role in health care.

And now her $5,000 bonus for every baby born --HillaryCradleCare, a boondoggle reminiscent of George McGovern's $1,000 per person pay-off from 1972.

This is not a liberal's targeted tax cut, but a massive expansion of federal spending --a new entitlement that no one had even previously thought to suggest!

And this look back over the past few weeks doesn't begin to review her record in the Senate or her pledge to end the war in January 2009 regardless of the situation in Iraq. Recall, this is the senator who stood on the floor of the Senate with a newspaper with the headline "Bush Knew."

Hillary is not mainstream. She's not even on the far left bank of the mainstream.

She is way, way out there --a genuine '60s girl, and the ideas and staff she would bring to the White House would represent a sharp break with all that has gone before in American politics.

With as many as six appointments to the Supreme Court in the next eight years (six Ruth Bader Ginsburgs!) a Hillary Court would be like a Hillary presidency--a radical Bench to back up a radical Administration.

That's the 2008 campaign in a nutshell.

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I don't understand...
how the American people have let this Socialist dupe them into thinking she'll be the savior of American prestige and prosperity?

"We, the Sheeple." Baa baa baa

Radical is in the eye of the beholder
I'd rather have Hillary's type of "radical" than right-wing fundamentalist radical any day. Hillary's radical will actually help the people in THIS country, rather than dumping billions more into Iraq.

And how can Republics still whine about Democratic spending after the war in Iraq? They are un-American, that's how. It's laughable for them to even bring such a thing up. They care more about Iraquis than Americans!

After the miserable failure that has been the GWB presidency, unfortunately, people want to know that our President will not endanger the lives of all US citizens by blindly jumping into more unnecessary wars. Hence Hillary's promise to consult with Congress first. Heck, I think she'll even use diplomacy, a concept the present administration has no clue about.

Hillary '08!!!!!!!!

hunter
you don't care about americans, and you not hillary, standing there with you hand out saying give some one else's property i actually what's wrong with america....after the miserable failure of the fisat clinton pres now you want another one....do you get a paycheck. doyou want to keep any of it....go thompson 08

repeat with proofreading
saying give me someone else's property...are whats wrong with america...miserable failure of the first clinton pres....she's a facist, dude. that means she will tell you what to eat, drink, say and do. i don't need her to tell me anything.

With a name like Hunter,
rest assured, he's not a man.

Hunter, real name: Tammy
Hgh, you guys aren't as stupid as you sound. Well, CT's not, anyway. Whoever said I was a man?????? You guys sure do jump to conclusions. Women can hunt, too. And I will challenge any of you so-called "men" to target practice any day.

It would be nice if you could post something here and get an intelligent response, but I guess that's not possible considering the low intelligence level of this board.

But what's all this about taking someone else's property? What does that even mean? You guys sure don't convey your thoughts clearly! I guess you're referring to Hill's plan to give babies $$??? Don't believe I even mentioned that. In fact, I don't even agree with that, you maroons! But given the choice whether to give money to our own citizens, or waste it in Iraq - damn right I'd say keep it here.

We need a woman in the White House. And Hillary's just the man for the job.,

Wow, Hunter
You're brilliant.

but back to the column...
I don't understand why the Republic Party continues to act as if Move On is the Democratic Party. Say what? Move On is an activist group, the Democrats a political party. Do people just not understand that? It's pretty simple, really...but then, so are the Republics.

If the Republics wants to promote this lie, they should also accept that commie, pinko, hate America first, bloviating fatso Rush Limbaugh speaks for them when he trashes the brave, wise soldiers who are out on the battlefield protecting our freedom. You can't have it both ways, Republics. Either stick to your illogic across the board, or drop it and try reality. That would be a nice change!

Consulting w/congress before war
In response to Hunter who wrote "people want to know that our President will not endanger the lives of all US citizens by blindly jumping into more unnecessary wars. Hence Hillary's promise to consult with Congress first."
Not to revist old news but President Bush had senate approval to go into Iraq to include Senator Clinton's vote (numerous sources try her own web site http://www.clinton.senate.gov/issues/nationalsecurity/index.cfm?topic=iraqletter). The President also had approval to use force from UN resolution 1441, not that he 'needed' that.
The difference is in 'telegraphing your punches' or showing what you would do in advance to an adversary such as IRAN by demanding the need for congressional approval
.
By the way, as a precedent, Former President Clinton did not have Senate approval before he bombed Afghanistan or Sudan (source http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=/archive/1998/08/21/wemb21.html

School's Tool
Most people have never been trained in critical thinking and are easily taken in by the equivocation and logical fallacies of Hillary and her bunch.

A simple reading (not listening) of Hillary's answers to questions put will demonstrate a lot of evasion and very little plain speaking. "Nuance" demands that she not give a straight answer. Everything is hedged and imprecise language is the rule (if we can agree on what "is" is) so she can disagree with herself later without contradiction.

Diplomacy? like say, Carter's?
Go back and read about Jimmy Carter's platform and presidency. I swear the Democrats use the same old play book every generation, just with new buzz words. Carter emphasized diplomacy over conflict. And not surprisingly, Iran fell to the Islamofascists and Afghanistan to the Soviet Union under his presidency. If it wasn't for the commies, Osama bin Laden wouldn't have gone to Afghanistan and found everyone's favorite jihad group.

Meanwhile, Carter played kissy kissy with the worlds worst dictators, while letting down our allies because of there "human rights violations." Trust me, however bad the Shah was, he's nothing to the Mullahs.

Carter inherited a bad oil situation and made it worse. It was his idea to tax "wind fall" profits (sound familiar?) and to hike gasoline taxes (sound familiar!?). If you are old enough to remember the gas lines, you know the results of far left policies like Hilary's.

School's Tool
Most people have never been trained in critical thinking and are easily taken in by the equivocation and logical fallacies of Hillary and her bunch.

A simple reading (not listening) of Hillary's answers to questions put will demonstrate a lot of evasion and very little plain speaking. "Nuance" demands that she not give a straight answer. Everything is hedged and imprecise language is the rule (if we can agree on what "is" is) so she can disagree with herself later without contradiction.

Hunter (huntress?)
"I don't understand why the Republic Party continues to act as if Move On is the Democratic Party. Say what? Move On is an activist group, the Democrats a political party. Do people just not understand that? It's pretty simple, really...but then, so are the Republics."

You are either a liar or a twit. Who has claimed that Moveon.org *is* the Democratic Party? I demand you provide and exact quote. And no "Moveon.org owns the Democratic Party" doesn't count, since that was a comment by a Moveon.org spokeperson and is probably true anyways.

"If the Republics wants to promote this lie, they should also accept that commie, pinko, hate America first, bloviating fatso Rush Limbaugh speaks for them when he trashes the brave, wise soldiers who are out on the battlefield protecting our freedom. You can't have it both ways, Republics. Either stick to your illogic across the board, or drop it and try reality. That would be a nice change!"

Rush Limbaugh has never trashed a real soldier who has really completed training and has fought and risked his life in the field. On the other hand, he has tarred knuckleheads like Jesse MacBeth, an "Iraq veteran" who the became a darling of the left for speaking out about the atrocities he witnessed. What's the problem? Well, MacBeth is a fraud who never served a day in Iraq. He washed out of boot camp! He was a phony soldier, exactly as Rush said he was.

Actually Hillary is a lot like Hugh
Only a little smarter and a lot more ambitious.

I can only pray she does not win.

Hunter
Rush trashed a boot camp flunkie (Jesse Macbeth) who claimed to be on the battlefield witnessing our troops comitting atrocities. The guy was in the military for 6 weeks!

I believe that qualifies as a "phony soldier".

By the way, ABC news ran a segment days before Rush even made that comment, calling Macbeth and his ilk "phony veterans". (Cue the crickets from the Socialists)

http://radioequalizer.blogspot.com/2007/09/rush-limbaugh-phony-soldiers-flap-abc.html

(Youtube clip of the segment included)

Radical is in the eye of the beholder
Hunter, thank you so much for your input. Rest assured I will give it all the consideration it merits.

What Man would Vote For Hillary?
Well, me for one. A few million others too:)

As to the $5,000
It can only be used for college or buying a home. Morton Kondrake, a barometer for centrism if there ever was one, told Dean it was a good idea. It is.

Try again, Hugh.

$5000 Vote buy
In response to laborlawyer:
"It can only be used for college or buying a home." It still means taking money from me and giving it to someone else. And the thought doesn't hold up even if it is for school or home buying.
Is this $5k really going to be actual money taken and put in an investment account like a mutual fund with each newborn babies name on it? Who will have the responsibility for managing that investment? Will it be like social security, a promise now paid for by those in the labor force 20 years from now?
Why not just give everyone that is eligible and desires to go to college a $5K scholarship? What about those who defer college for a number of years does the money wait for them? Since middle and upper income people are more likely to go to college then lower income individuals is this not an entitlement for the rich?
The housing market has problems today with people getting loans they can’t afford. Giving someone, especially someone who uses the money for a house instead of college, money for a down payment probably means that we are encouraging them to buy a house they can’t afford.
The state of Georgia started a lottery (read tax on people that can’t do math) and uses the revenue to give a scholarship to individuals that have a B or higher HS average. This makes a lot more sense then another redistribution of my money like laborlawyer advocates.

Time to Light the Grill!
For now, Hitlery is dodging the hard-ball questions that beg answering. Assuming Hitlery will be the democrat’s choice to take on whomever the GOP produces, she is in for a rude awakening (I hope)! To date, she has been treated with kit-gloves by the mass media with a few exceptions. She has been allowed to side-step hard-ball questions by either talking in generalities, changing the subject or hiding behind that hideous (and fake) cackle of a laugh.

If she doesn’t ultimately get a proper grilling, at least from the GOP and conservative press, then, I will be convinced that both parties have gone to the dogs!

Listen to Hitlery’s insightful responses to a few of the major issues here:

http://klintons.com/hitlery_sound_board.html


Actually
As to two of Miz Hillary's proposals, we've been down this road before.

The idea that the President "must consult with Congress" before "going into Iran" indicates that any military action against same must be done only with Congressional approval. In other words, the Iraq scenario all over again. That's fine, under Article 2 of the Constitution (designating the President as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces). However, if she intends to take it further than that, to the point of prohibiting any action without Congressional approval, she's basically trying to revive the War Powers Act, which was declared unconstitutional by the Supreme Court in the Reagan Administration.

(Please note; If she becomes President, I expect all talk of "seeking Congressional approval" for ANYTHING will abruptly vanish from her repertoire', as she has no intention of letting anybody get in her way when she wants to do something- or do somebody over.)

And as for the idea of using tax money to pay people to have babies, it's been done. Try a Google search for the term "Lebensborn Program", or "Lebensborn House".

Her "new ideas" are very old, indeed. And are known by the company they have kept in the past.


cheers

eon


What is the Democrat Party?
An advocator of Terror Rights.

The Democrat party base will destroy our nation as they attack the family renaming Mom and Dad to Progenitor A and B or worse yet legal guardian as a result of Gay rights ,destroy religion because it condemns the gay rights, and our security by not monitoring potential terrorist actions.

The Democrat base is morally (based on traditional morals) corrupt.

Hugh's Right...Hold Her Delicate Feet To
the fire--Relentlessly.Never let up.Run footage of her "Then" and "Now" versions.It's ALL on video record.One doesn't need to manipulate it out of context to show the woman to be the poster
child for dishonesty and appetite...Bottomless,
unsatisfiable appetite for power & attention--like that serial filanderer that she has enabled for 30+ years.

Remember:CLINTON FATIGUE?

NO more national soap opera.We're at war.

Assuming the worst...
in that Hillary does get elected, one has to wonder if she will be wearing a Burka when negotiating with the radical muslims in the world or if they will even consider communicating with her at all.

I also find it very interesting how she is using Nazi idealogy to enhance her position with the $5K gift she's offering in her ongoing design to enhance charities with tax payer funds.

I do applause the fact that her election and following administration will most likely be that most needed to shake those with their heads in the sand back to reality, Carter did that, and so will she only at a much higher cost.

sorry,
should read applaud

I see
the morons like 'warren little' have invaided another page.
Warren, these pages are for the wise, not liars & hide behind trees types.

Congressional Aproval?
Sorry Hugh, but getting congressional approval to strike Iran is strictly constructionist constitutionalism. That's one of the main enumerated powers of the Congress, and one that the Republic should hold dear. Any President had better have the Congress onboard before conducting a new war!

Hillary is a Divider!
Good article, Hugh! She worries me, too. I hope that people will finally get the real picture of her and you are helping. I am not a hater but I am mostly worried about the future of our country. When the wicked rule, the people mourn.

Hillary
Aside from the spooky Nazi similarities, her "$5000 for a baby" thing is classic Commiecrat. Anybody here listen to Algore's acceptance speech back in 2000? I did (at least as much as I could stomach), and it was nothing but appeals to every deaf/red-headed/lesbian/shortstop/mothers special interest group to "vote for me and I'll give you money from the public treasury". This is no different; an appeal to the Democrat base (a group never known for being very bright at the best of times), people dumb enough to think that getting $5K from the Feds for dropping a kid is anything more than a drop in the bucket, moneywise.

Of course, none of the 'Crat candidates, whether it's Hillary of the Dead Eyes, Osama Obama or the Breck Girl, are anything but empty suits, who between the three of them have zilch in the way of accomplishments. We can only hope that when the time comes, the electorate will see them for what they are and vote accordingly.

Wizard of Oz
Is America ready for a President who sounds an awful lot like the wicked witch of the west?

Hunter
I don't understand why the Republic Party continues to act as if Move On is the Democratic Party. Say what? Move On is an activist group, the Democrats a political party.
Hey, hunter, would you be interested in a tall iron structure in Paris? But you have to hurry, I only have one left!

HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

LillyPutin
See, I told you roberta roberta do not put your finger in that light socket! Now look at your hair!

Moveon.duh troll
wrote, "...considering the low intelligence level of this board
well if the trolls went back to KrackOfShite boards, it would go back up
HUNTER 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

ROBERTA, ROBERTA
See I told you Lilly Putin do not put your finger in that light socket! Now look at your hair!

WOW
a labour lawyer is for Hillary! What a shock! Inspires the hell out of me!

morgan writes
"Rush trashed a boot camp flunkie (Jesse Macbeth) who claimed to be on the battlefield witnessing our troops comitting atrocities. The guy was in the military for 6 weeks!"
----------------------------------------------
Yes, Tush Limburger did did call Macbeth a phony soldier. Macbeth WAS a phony soldier. Fatso Drug Addict also called real, active duty soldiers who oppose the war "phony soldiers". It doesn't sound like anybody here actually listened to what he said. He used the PLURAL "phony soldierS" before he even brought up Macbeth. Then after the fact he edited his comments to try to weasel out of his horrible, anti-troops comments.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200710020011?f=h_top

I think Moveon.org was wrong to criticize Gen. Betrayus in the way they did (they should have known the Republics would grab onto it as they have nothing else to offer), but they are entitled to their opinion, as is Big Tush. But unlike Big Fat Tushie, Moveon did not run away from their comments like a frightened little nancy-girl. I don't know how Tush keeps all that fat attached to his body, with the thin skin he's got! He can dish it out (and eat it), but he can't take it. Typical of Republics.

Huntress
As usual for the barking moonbat crowd, you don't know what you are talking about (and citing a leftist front group like "Media Matters" buys you nothing in the cred department, as they were shown to be lying right out of the gate about this).

Actually, there were two "phony soldiers" who were outed recently for passing moonbat agitprop about "atrocities" in Iraq. One was this Macbeth character, the other was some clown named Beauchamp, who has never been anywhere near Iraq, but still felt the need to write about all the killing he'd seen over there. The milblogs had a field day outing that clown, too, and The New Republic was shown up for the idiots they are for having published Beauchamp's tripe without doing a little thing called "fact checking".

So yes, Rush was dead on about the "phony soldiers", and you and the rest of the fantasy-based community can whine all you want, but you've been outed as liars once more.

And what's up with this "Limbaugh is fat" bit? He shed his excess weight years ago. Can't you people get ANYTHING right? Sheesh...

You know,
Hunter, for a broad, you're kind of a name caller aren't ya? Why do you worry so much about Rush Limbaugh? He's just a radio dude who thinks folks like you are idiots. He doesn't sign your paycheck, so perhaps you should worry about more important things suchas lime disease caused by ticks in the woods. Remember to tuck your trousers and spray your legs while out hunting the creatures.

HUNTER
So HUNTER you think that RUSH should apologise to the TROOPS? I would agree if you said the same thing about your members in the DUMBOCRAP Party. Killing IRAQIs in the dead of night(KERRY and SMURTHA) The soldiers are enept and lost the war(DINGY HARRY REID), the troops are acting like murderers(DURBIN) We support the troops but firsat they must lose and surrender(NANCY P.)
Now can you tell me what is so Patriatic about those comments from your so call DEM LEADERS. Now if they think that Rush is NOT PATRIATIC for his statement then what the HELL would you call your Cowardly DEM LEADERS. My son is in IRAQ as an Apache pilopt and they hear this crap that your famous DEM Leaders spew and they all love Rush so TEll DUMBOCRAP when will the REAL Leadership in your LIBSTAIN PARTY become PATRIOTIC? I know NNNEEEVVVEEERRR.

Limburger's lies
You can find his unedited comments other places than Media Matters if you do some research. And please let me know where Media Matters has been proven a liar. The audio they posted came straight from the horse's mouth. Fatso Drug Addict has never said that Media Matters lied in pointing out his real comments, he is just saying he never said them, despite proof to the contrary.

When you're down and out and the mouthpiece of a failed administration you'll say anything to try to remain relevant.

Huntress = brain-dead
Look here, sweetie. So what if Limbaugh didn't mention Beauchamp by name? Just because YOU didn't know about the Beauchamp/TNR Charlie Foxtrot doesn't mean Rush didn't, nor a whole lot of other people out here who are actually paying attention to what's going on.

You and your moonbat pals in Congress and MM have been caught lying. Again. Deal with it.

And no, Limbaugh is not "still fat". And even if he were, what does that have to do with anything? I think Rosie O'Donnell is one of the leading media Alfa Hotels in this part of the Galaxy, but not all of us chalk up her profligate stupidity to her being overweight.

"Tushie Limbaugh, he's fat, he's fat, he's fat!" Sheesh, is that the best you can do?

They don't care
You are right, and the 35% that want Hillary know you're right; but THEY DON'T CARE! They want America to be punished for her sin of success (i.e. feeding and protecting the world and supporting their stagnant economies). They are betting that they can pull off another 15% of the remaining 65% by merely lying. They are secure in the knowledge that the majority of the 65% have no critical thinking capability, and merely vote for who they think is going to win (i.e. moderates).

chuck writes:
They ALL love Rush?

http://www.votevets.org/

And, yep, he should apologize to the troops and the American people. His comments have no place in public discourse in a time of war. What sort of message is he and his ilk sending with these demoralizing comments? A disgrace. Sickening.

Hunter
well he may be fat, but trolls are ugly and their moms dress them funny, at least Rush can go on a diet!

Hunter 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta
hunteress loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me! YAAAAAA HE REALLY LOVES ME!

Cave Bear
If svelte, trim, fit Limbaugh was also referring to Beauchamp, one would think he might have mentioned that. You're giving him way too much credit.

I AM SHOCKED
SHOCKED I TELL YOU, SHOCKED 8()
hunter linked to Media (the truth matters not) Mhaters SHOCKED!

Hunter 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta
hunteress loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me! YAAAAAA HE REALLY LOVES ME!

BZZT. Wrong answer
I HAVE heard what Limbaugh said, and read a complete transcript, and it was obvious what he was referring to, and it was certainly not dissing the troops in Iraq, past or present. Media Matters was lying, period.

Now that I think about it, I have yet to hear of any soldier who was in combat in Iraq who has come out with the "appropriate" moonbat memes about the war. And God knows the media (such as TNR) would be more than happy to provide one with a platform should one show up.

This is not to say that a lot of troops haven't complained about how things are handled in this or that regard over there. There's been a lot of that. For that matter, every work night I spend 12 hours sitting next to a kid who spent three years in Iraq and Afghanistan, and he complains mightily about how things were handled over there. Not the mission, mind you. He maintains that the mission is eminently justified in both places; his beef is how the Army does things.

Of course, soldiers have been beeching about how the higher-ups do things in war since Alexander the Great's day, and that is not apt to change any time soon. But there is a non-trivial difference that sort of complaint and your phony soldiers and their fake atrocity claims.

Like arguing with a corpse
You guys arguing with Hunter are going nowhere; wasting your breath. You'll never convince her because she espouses to the sheep philosophy of most radical liberals...refusing to think for themselves.

Hugh Hewitt calls it like it is. Hillary has always been a radical liberal...thinly disguised.

Whatever we do...get out the Republican vote before we're all Socialists!

ANYBODY but Hillary '08...

Hunt...whatever
I defy you to go to Rush's site and actually read the transcript from last Tues and Wed and then come back and RATIONALLY refute what Rush said. I know you won't because you socialists never let the facts get in the way of a good lie and smear job.

Additionally, if Moveyourbowels.org didn't own the Dim party then explain why 25 of the socialists in the clown chamber called the senate wouldn't repudiate their disgusting add, Hmmm?

I have heard
several times the recording of Hillary taking credit for forming Media Matters. Given the record of this site in regularily smearing the right with made up facts and distortions, could Hillary be judged a "moderate" or "centrist".

For Tammy the lemming
As morgan explained, Limbaugh did not, and would not, trash our troops.

You, on the other hand, are a kool-aid drinking tool of the left. You complain that the right thinks MoveOn.org is the Democrat Party, and then promptly demonstrate your enthusiastic willingness to jump into the lake head-first without checking the water when Media Matters publishes outright lies about what Limbaugh said.

Who's the radical here?

BTW - Mrs. Clinton is not trying to help people. She is trying to buy votes. It's bad enough when a politicain tries to buy votes with her own money. It gets worse when she tries to buy votes with money that has been donated to her campaign by honest people who she has fooled. But it is a moral crime of the highest order to bribe people with the future earnings of taxpayers, many of whom are directly opposed to the entitlement mentality Mrs. Clinton is promoting.

Finally, the national debt is currently at $8.9 trillion. Increases in defense spending due to the war against terror have added roughly 4% to each of five annual budgets since 9/11/01. Annual budgets have been running at $2.5 trillion to $3 trillion.

Doing the math we get that the total add to the national debt for the entire war on terror is about $550 billion. That means that without the entire war on terror the national debt would still be in excess of $8.3 trillion.

So where did this $8.3 trillion come from? Here's a hint. We have spent $11 trillion on the war on poverty since 1964 and we have made no progress.

Sounds like that's the real "quagmire" to me.

Rocker
Well Girlyman is up early. Did Mommy wash your underoos and get your breakfast for you?

Bob
I'm not paying anymore taxes.....it's time for a revolution.

for Joe
Joe writes: "Actually Hillary is a lot like Hugh, only a little smarter and a lot more ambitious. I can only pray she does not win."

I'm doing more than "praying." I'm supporting Rudy Giuliani, the ONLY Republican candidate who can defeat Hillary even in some Blue States.

The polls show that Giuliani is more popular than Hillary in New Jersey and draws even with her in Oregon. In the general election, if Rudy beats Hill in those two states, he'll cancel her ticket to the White House right there.

No other GOP candidate can do better than fight a defensive action--holding on to the Red States that Bush won. That means a likely loss in 2008 because the key swing state of Ohio, which Bush won in 2004, is now trending Democrat. And without Ohio, the remaining Red States just don't have enough Electoral Votes to win the election. Period. No Republican can win in 2008 without winning either Ohio or some Blue State somewhere.

Stop praying.
Stop living in denial.
Look at the Electoral College Map as it really is.
For once, vote with your brain instead of your heart.
Rudy is your only chance to keep Hillary out of the White House.

Go Rudy!

Liberal Stupidity
Hunter writes: “We need a woman in the White House. And Hillary's just the man for the job.”

YOU ARE COMPALINING ABOUT REPUBLICAN STUPIDITY! Either you are stupid or you are finally admitting to Shillary being Gay. Which is it?

Gay or not, Shillary is a Drug Addled, Hippie Leftover, Lying, Cheating, Coward of a Communist America Hater.

Truly Cowardly Airhead, NY Coward, Warren Midget, Malibu Barbie, whose turn is it to use the kneepads?
Robert Robert

hunter
Come on LIBSCUM you cant respond to the rest of my comments about your UNPATRIOTIC DEM LEADERS in Congress and their remarks about the TROOPS whom they say they SUPPORT. Just like a DUMBOCRAP trying to change a subject he cant win. I also forgot that you have a brain to react to that. Rush has more respect from the Troops tham any LIBSCUM in Congress

rocker
I am never at a lost to understand how leftys think, for example;
Clinton-draft dodger = good
Anyone on the RIGHT draft dodger = bad
CLASS, CAN WE SAY- DOUBLE STANDARD?

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ROBERTA, ROBERTA
Rocker can I wear your under roos?

hunter
just another femisnist who wears comfortable shoes. In the minds of these leftists the missus clinton is the orgamistic dream come true. Incaple of playing on any field they can't first approach without the help of other feminists lawyers, they now thing the missus clinton will bring about the feminist socialist nirvana where they will finally be in charge. But other than enabling their own pseudo self importance what is really important to feminist other than unlimited access to abortion, furthering the culture of hooking up and seeing that they have a career that requires them to insist and prove that alone they are more important than all the males they hold in high disregard. But with the missus clinton as their role model is is no wonder these feminists present a picture of empty bitter women who justify their sad loney lives with the lie that career was more important than having a full life.

labor lawyer
so now we hear that a parisitic lawyer will vote for the missus clinton. Big surprise. The most useless species on earth who are part and parcel of the dim'socialisdt plan to destroy america but all the while lining their pockets at societies expense. The only thing worst than a lawyer is stepping in dog poo and having to scrape it off you shoe

Phony Soldiers
One more for you LIBSCUMS, have you ever noticed all the PHONY NAM VETS that are also out there.The first words out of their mouths is trashing the war and the troops. I met a man at my local and he started trashing everything about war and a Comment came from his mouth like, when I was in Nam There was all kind of killings of innocent civilians. So I asked him where he was at becuase I was there and the first remarks out of his mouth was(If I told You I would have to kill you. what a crock. Come to find out he was only 33 yrs old and was a DUMBOCRAP just trying to do what HUNTER is doing causing trouble that he cant back up.

CFUSMC writes:
I could go to Rush's site and read his edited transcript, but since I already heard the original broadcast, there is no reason to do so. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying that he simply misspoke, if he were a real man and a true American he would apologize. His comments were quite hurtful. Coming from a proud military family all I can say is our troops deserve much better.

As for those in Congress who wisely refused to condemn the Gen. Betrayus non-issue, I say, "Thanks God somebody has half a brain." There is no reason for Congress to get involved in such things as we have something called "free speech" in this country. And, yes, I disagree with the Democrats taking on Limbaugh, too. But in this tit for tat culture that the Republics have fostered through their lies, it does make sense to point out the Republic Party's blatant hypocrisy. Bill Clinton was brilliant as usual in his response - that more than sufficed. Let those in office deal with real issues for a change.

georgetwin
now I see that mommy's boy has put his twin sister on this thread. When a woman has to assure others that she is good looking she must really be fullbodied and a customer of those plus sized women stores. But that is the feminist mantra. I am always better than you in every way. I am willing to bet that mommy's boy and tammy, doesn't that sound like a name from someone working in the leisre profession, probably share their clothes. They are already sharing their ideas

Hillary, justices and Rush
I hope any 'on the fence' conservatives or independents will take note of Hugh's point that the next president may appoint a large number of justices to the supreme court. With Hillary, this is a danger that cannot be overstated. Let's hope it comes up again and again before election time.

As for Rush, the Left's attempt to stir up a controversy there is laughable. Only the moonbats are going to buy into it and they already hate Rush. So, nice try.

Hunter
I forgot that you are a DUMBOCRAP so I have to spell it out for you. Why are you not critisiing the DEMS in your party that are really trashing the TRoops ie, SMURTHA,KERRY,DINGY REID, Polosi, Durbin, WEBB they all have said worse things about the troops that Rush would never believe or say. I see you at least had something to say about GEN P. this has nothing to do with what IM talking about. But I know that it is hard for you to apprehend so Im not thinking that I would get a staight answer from a LIBSCUM.

wildwest writes
Heh. When I said I was "beautiful" I also said I looked kind of like Ann Coulter (sans Adam's Apple). I was being facetious - who would call Ann Coulter beautiful??? That's the differenc between Democrats and Republics - us Dems can at least laugh at ourselves!

Why the personal attacks
Hunter: "
You can find his unedited comments other places than Media Matters if you do some research. And please let me know where Media Matters has been proven a liar. The audio they posted came straight from the horse's mouth. Fatso Drug Addict has never said that Media Matters lied in pointing out his real comments, he is just saying he never said them, despite proof to the contrary.

When you're down and out and the mouthpiece of a failed administration you'll say anything to try to remain relevant."

It is funny, the caller (who was not mentioned in the Media Matters transcript...I wonder why) mentioned soldiers, in the plural, Rush answered using the same plural. Which was appropriate since there has been documented articles, ABC, and the Associated Press that outed these liberal soldiers days before Rush spoke.

As for listening, I have listened to Rush, I also read the transcripts on his page, and yes they are the same as you mentioned. However, unlike you who looked at the words through the eyes of a hated liberal, I looked at the words with an open mind and there is nothing there that even remotely comes close to what the Libs say.

However, lets take a look at MediaMatters shall we? It was started by Hillary Clinton, as stated in her speech on Aug. 7th 2007, you can see it on UTUBE. It is funded by George Soros, who owns MoveOn.Org and has given millions of dollars to liberal demoncrats. So, um...thinking clearly, do you really think MediaMatters is going to be objective?

Hunter, I understand your passion, your feelings and your heart. It is a good heart, but there are times when adults need to think with our brains and not our hearts.

chuck writes:
Hmm, I must've missed something. Exactly when, where and how did all those patriotic Democrats trash our troops? Would be nice if you could back up your accusations with some facts. Oh, wait, you're a Repugnantcan - facts don't matter to you.

Hunter
It is hard for me to believe that you are from a proud military family but you want trash the DEMS who are trashing the troops. I would bet that if you do have family members that where in the military that they would be ashame of some of your comments. Also I would bet that they used to or still do listen to RUSH. I would like to hear from some of those so called proud military family members you boosted about and their thoughts about all of this. But I dought that this is all true.

Hunter
Oh I forgot that there is no PATRIOTIC DEMS in Congress, you got me on that one. But if you could only read all you would have to do is go to the NYTIMES and find everything I mentioned to you in my 03,0936 A.M. remarks. But I forgot you are a LIB and dont know how to curser backwards. Must have had your ears off when all of your buddies in Congress was troop trashing huh. WHAT A JOKERSTER YOU ARE. Go away LIBSCUM you are wasting the PEOPLES time with your garbage.

Hillary 08
Hunter:

Please tell me when there was a right-wing radical in the White House? Neither Bush 41 or 43 are right-wing at all. There is nothing right-wing or conservative about Bush 43. How about Ford, who made sure that the Michigan's Affirmative Action plan survived the court challenge.

Reagan was conservative but only a leftist could consider him radical.

Look at the "radicals" in the GOP running for office--Hunter, Huckabee, Tamcredo--no chance at all of getting the nomination.

Now if there was really a far-right radical running and a far-left radical running--either would be as bad as the other and time to get ones passport in order, but there will be no radical from the GOP side.

You are right though--fiscally and from a growth of government perspective, Bush 43 has been one of the worst presidents since LBJ and his war on poverty programs.


Today Hillary silences Rush
Today Hillary and Moveon.org will silence Rush, tomorrow they will silence us!!!
Moveon.org is nothing more than a carbon copy of the STASI that suppressed East Germans during the Cold War, and don't think for one minute that when Hillary gets elected that Moveon.org will go away, if anything it will get stronger and be given more legal powers to silence dissent.
Hillary doesn't compromise, she gets even.

One more for Tammy
Re: "We need a woman in the White House."

So you are a sexist as well. Think not? Then employ the simple technique of reversal. Substitute the word "man" where you've used the word "woman".

You get "We need a man in the White House", thus excluding all women from consideration because of their gender.

You are just another cheap example of the an American left that in reality is everythig it claims to oppose.

Hunter writes:
chuck writes:
Hmm, I must've missed something. Exactly when, where and how did all those patriotic Democrats trash our troops? Would be nice if you could back up your accusations with some facts. Oh, wait, you're a Repugnantcan - facts don't matter to you.

Try John "ABSCAM" Murtha and his Backstabbing Buddy John Kerry, Dick he*d Turban Durbin as three examples of Dumbbuttcrap political leaders who have trashed the troops. Then check those "patriotic" sites, DU, DailyKOS, Smirking Chimp, HuffPo etc for some examples of real "support" for he troops..

Akagi
AAAHHHH(BULLCRAP)CHOOOO you don’t like sitting on fences much do you? At least you picked the right name A-10 I SANK YOUR CARRIER!
How do you figure Hunter is a radical? Could it be that he thinks border security IS important? Well, call me a radical also!


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robert robert
akagi will you sink your battleship over here?

WildWest
AMEN! Did you see NY Coward made a lewd reference to my mother? What is it with these Liberal Girlymen and Mannish Girls?

Especially dangerous
Hillary has no respect for the law, of which she is a lawyer and officer of the court, no consideration of the Const.

When she and Bill were in the WH, they did not reveal their IRS records for years, in the meantime amending them twice before any became public.

She ignored subpoenas for the tax records of others that she held hostage in the WH safe for years. She ignored subpoenas for her Rose Law Firm records for two years. She never revealed the whereabouts of Craig Livingston after Vince Foster's death, altho' she had hired him as her sec. chief even after the Sec. Serv. would not give him security clearance.

She lies without concern. One is she worried all 911 about Chelsea's wherabouts (ABC interview). Chelsea wrote for TALK mag. that she spent the day watching tv in a wealthy upper Eastside apartment.

No one ever calls her on her lies. The MSM media completely overlook that she has never had a real grilling by the press. Not even anything close to what any daily WH briefing endures.

She is afraid of the press. At first, she tried to move the WH press corps out of the WH. IF she ever becomes pres., it will be the END of any truthfulness from the exec. in DC.

Tax Hike
The Democrat controlled Congress has just passed a 736 BILLION DOLLAR tax Hike...We are ready to retire, and I can just see how well that is going to work out if we leave the hand-out instead of hand-up crowd in power in Washington.

Throw all the rascals OUT!!!!!!

simply hysterics
this is the most virulent and vile post i have read in a long time.
i guess we need to start a hds (hilary derangement syndrome) therapy group for some conservatives cause they have lost their minds.

Not news Hugh
With all due respect Hugh, Hillary has revealed herself as radical for more than 30 years, not just in the last few weeks.

She has been a disciple of radical Saul Alinsky since her college days. And Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" has been an essential part of her political repertoire, if not her political bible.

At every opportunity, most of them out of the public view, she has relentless moved to impose socialism, and in some cases communism, on the genral public. It is her default activity. As hard as she tries to hide it, it leaks out every now and then.

At a time when tax cuts have shown themselves to generate INCREASES in revenue to the treasury she continues unabated to insist that we must have new federal programs "paid for" with tax increases. Anyone who is not a radical leftist would understand that these tax increases will REDUCE revenue.

But Mrs. Clinton doesn't care about the practical economics of her proposals; only the increased power and control it will bring to government and, as the head of that government, to her.

Human history is replete with power mad tyrants who, once elected to office, ruthlessly seized control as despots (recent case in point; Saddam Hussein). And no previous despot has anything on this ruthless, lying shrew.

Everything I wrote
I wrote is verifiably and historically true.

Hillary has left a trail of her lies and crimes, including making $100,000 from a $1000 cattle futures investment that you will never duplicate.

georgetwin
the lib mantra is always attack the messenger. But what also goes beyond the pale is anytime these dim patriots alwasy call our brave heroes who defended this country liars about their service to this country. But others are probably right that someone must be paying these trolls to infest this site. But they still bring nothing to the conversation. Now the leisure time worker tammy assures us dims have the ability to laugh at themselves. I guess in their crowd celebtrating that you are an idiot is standard fodder for their comedy circuit. I think they are still trying to work in i wanna jihad stinger that he dropped at columbia. What a crew

Neo Kommie Hitlery...
...the cackling cacophonous Komissar. She is so "Hillerious", she should be laughed out of the public arena. But the consequences of her power are dire, indeed.

On a lighter note, thank you, Kosmonaut airheads, for your frontal attack on Rush. It should ensure higher ratings for him and more credibility loss for you. Have at it, children.

Hunter et al
If you all cannot see how much in the pocket of George Soros the Democrat party is you are living in a dream-world. And enough with the bash Rush Limbaugh nonsense. Those of us who listen to Rush on a regular basis know the truth, and to say he is anything other than a great supporter of our military is beyond absurd and a lie.

Reid and Harkin made absolute donkeys of themselves this week denouncing Limbaugh for their trumped up charges of putting down our troops. That Reid didn't choke on his own hypocricy is just an amazing thing in and of itself. It just proves the man has no soul and no shame.

How proud of your party you must be that they are foaming at the mouth over Limbaugh, which is but another attempt to silence an opposing view, and get him kicked off of Armed Forces Radio. It is disgraceful...and this from the party that touts how pro-freedom of speech they are.

The only freedom of speech they respect is that which they want to say or that slams Republicans, Bush or the war...regardless of its truth or authenticity. Sad really.

religiouslib
your the one who likes her, egro you need the help.

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ROBERTA, ROBERTA
religiouslib can I wear your under roos thong?




duck
monica claimed that bill didn't "trust " her enough to finish him off so to speak. The dim's hero then retreated to the bathroom sink to "finish" his own pleasuring. Sorry to be so crude. But it only proved what a real man he was not

now for the really disgusting news
whoopi on the view stated that she would like to pleasure pelosi. Now that is a sight that is too disgusting to even imagine

Hillary
I have to say that I am disgusted with the Republican party for not going after Hillary in a manner which she and Move On Org. will not hesitate to do to any and all Republicans that dare run for the Presidency against her. She has enough bad luggage for left overs after the "08 election and should be called on the carpet for each and every bag she carries. I wonder just what it is going to take to get the "runners" to get up the courage to defeat her now so the country can relax and have a decent chance at a President that will not sell out this country and the freedoms that we now enjoy? I believe her (Hillary) to be a DESPOT in waiting.

Birth Bond
I can't wait to see how Hitlery handles all the applications for the proposed "$5000 Birth Bonds" from all those she deems intellectually and morally deficient Born Again Christians. When they line up for their piece of the Socialistic Pie, Hitlery will be presented with numerous cunundrums which will demonstrate her 'finger in the wind policy' practices and hipocrisy.
Not the least of whiCH IS:
If life doesn't start at conception (i.e., abortion isn't murder if the THING that is removed [aka killed by those with a moral compass] isn't born), why won't those born again into Christ be eligible?

Nothing would ever surprise me about this woman?

Huntress: per 9:55 call
Surely you jest? You are talking about the intelligence of TH posters and you cite VoteVets?
Ever hear of Josh Lonsdale? Spokesman for this
group of trolls, founded by Gen. Weasley Clark of
Kosovo fame, almost started WW3 and GOT FIRED as
head of NATO. He's the one who was convicted for falsely charging he was wounded, denied care
at V.A. because the dork got his "wound" playing volleyball, a busted ankle. Has and is making anti war ads for the radical unpatriots.
SENATOR Tom Harkin, Democrat, IA.. 1984 Seante race and again in '92 presidentail race that he'd served as a combat pilot in Vietnam. FACT:
He'd never been there, not even Cambodia at Christmas like Kerry; boasted he flew F4's & F8's, said he served over a yr. Military record:
Showed NO combat service, was a ferry pilot out of Atsugi Japan, ferrying planes to the Philipines for repairs.
Yeah, you are correct Rush used the plural, these are just two examples of the PHONEY Soldiers (three if you count John "I was in Vietnam" Kerry, maybe four if you count Murtha
who got his medals like Kerry for a scratch, probably from a pen he used in the back areas
while at his desk.)

2001 A space oddity
off subject but i thought you kids would like to hear the new bedtime story going round'

2001 A space oddity,
HaL: good morning Roberta Roberta
Roberta Roberta: morning Hal
HaL: What are you doing with that tool Roberta Roberta?
HaL blows stinky gas in Roberta Roberta’s face.
Roberta Roberta: thanks Hal
HaL: thanks for the tool Roberta Roberta!
fade to black!


Hunter 2008!
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WildWest
I can't say for sure about Liberalcrats being paid. BUT, when something BIG happens, MORE of them show up! So at the very least, THEY ARE BEING DIRECTED! Mindless, Gutless and Clueless. The American Liberal in 2007/2008

Doc
Akagi is a closet advocate of open borders. This is what causes him to think Hunter is a "radical", since Hunter is actively insisting that the fence, which is authorized by the Congress, actually be built.

Tea Party
You wrote

"SENATOR Tom Harkin, Democrat, IA.. 1984 Seante race and again in '92 presidentail race that he'd served as a combat pilot in Vietnam. FACT:
He'd never been there, not even Cambodia at Christmas like Kerry; boasted he flew F4's & F8's, said he served over a yr. Military record:
Showed NO combat service, was a ferry pilot out of Atsugi Japan, ferrying planes to the Philipines for repairs."

Is this true?

Could it be that the same Tom Harkin who wasted the Senate's time on Monday braying about Rush over the thoroughly bogus "phony soldier" complaint is in fact a "phony soldier" himself?

Say it ain't so.

Congressional Censure
Does anybody on this thread find the fact of the Rush Limbaugh Censure movement in Congress to be surreal?

Talk about the politics of personal destruction! The current congress are masters at this. What is behind all this? It would seem that it is a blatant attempt to silence a Conservative voice. Rush is a CITIZEN for crying out loud! Doesn't Congress have anything better to do? (Oh I forgot, investigate, hold congressional panels, and pontificate...that's all they do)

Seems to me the Democrats are running scared because they know that Rush is more popular and more well-respected by Americans than the polititians in Washington.

If they succeed in silencing Rush from Armed Forces Radio (just as they are determined to resurrect the "Fairness Doctrine") then we are in worse doo doo than I think we are. Radio Free America, anybody?

When they censure Durbin for calling our military 'Nazis' Kerry for calling them 'terrorists' and Reid for calling them 'losers' I'll believe they really do support the troops. What a load of manure!

Brevity is the soul of wit...
P.J. O'Rourke said it best: Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pant suit.

bud
but the missus clinton is jealous. Hugo is cuter

wildwest/bud
I actually think Hillary IS Chavez in drag.

wildwest writes:
bud
but the missus clinton is jealous. Hugo is cuter

and does NOT sound like the Wicked Witch of the West when he laughs.

Down fall of America
With hillary occupying the White House and the ability to appoint 6 new justices to the Supreme Court, she might just decide that she is another hugo chavez and suspend the Constitution and then appoint herself dictator for life. With control of the Supreme Court, it is far more likely reality than we could expect of a sane and reasonable period of occupation.

With hillary occupying the White House, pelosi over the House and reid controlling the Senate, it would no longer be necessary to look outside our own borders to find an AXIS of EVIL.

THE PROBLEM IS CONSERVATIVE
treating Hillary's presidency as INEVITABILITY.


And to make matter worse, those who warn us of Hillary are so eager to promote losing candidates such as Giuliani or Thompson.

If this is the best the republican conservatives can do, then they deserve no wins at all in the 2008 elections.



Wiseone
Yep.

"When we got organized as a country we wrote a fairly radical Constitution, with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans. There's too much personal
freedom. when personal freedom is being abused, you have to move to limit it." Bill Clinton
3/22/94 MTV Enough is Enough
"We are certainly better prepared and more focused on, you know, taking our arguments and making them effective, and disseminating them widely, and really putting together a network, uh,in the blogoshperes, in a lot of the new progressive infrastructure, institutions that I helped to start and support like Media Matters and Center for American Progress.
You know we're beginning to match what I had said for years was the advantage of the other side. Uh, you know, when I made the comment about the vast right wing conspiracy, I wasn't kidding. Uh, what I never could have predicted is that is was not a conspriacy, it was just wide open and out there for everyone to see."
Hillary, Daily Kos Convention
When you for for one, you get the other. First the top talk radio hosts, then the internet, then
the newspapers, then the American people..too much freedom going on there.

don't Worry
If the Republicans run anyone who can walk and chew gum at the same time, we won't have to worry about witch Hillary and her refried health insurance sceem. She has far too much baggage,most men are not going to vote for her. The "I am going to vote for her just because she is a woman." that we hear from the NOW folks like Hunter wont get her elected. This is the most important election in my life time and I am 65 years old. On the major issues of keeping us safe from terrorist, keeping a strong military, moral values, family issues, constitutional federal judges, abortion, same sex marriage, cutting crime, socialized health care that gives $5000.00 to 4 million babies a year and tells us what doctor we can use, and that we must have coverage to get a job, all work against her. People in this country flat do not like Hilary for good reason. She comes off phoney, and mean spirited...Unless the Republicans just flat drop the ball as they have been known to do, Hillary can go back to baking cookies..

Need a woman
Hunter says we need a woman in the White House. We had one, her name was Monica, and she didn't do very well -- I guess you could say she blew it.

Ron, Don't Worry
I'm in the same age bracket as yourself. Unfortunately, many of the things that hillary has on her plate are exactly what a good portion of the electorate want. They don't care who pays as long as it isn't themselves.

It started with lyndon's welfare program and continues to grow, the something-for-nothing voters. These "voters" hear all about the free health care in Canada and most of Europe and want it here. They know they won't be paying for it, so who pays doesn't bother them. They never listed to the criticisms, the long waiting periods, reduced services available, etc. It's free and that is all they want to hear or know.

Many Americans see the large homes that doctors have purchased and get angry. Sure, the doctor spent years of poverty before he obtained a license to practice medicine or that he spends countless hours reading about new techniques or new diseases, etc. None of this comes into the minds of those who want the doctor to earn less and have less for his studies and efforts, all that matters is that they get free medical care.

Only after the "medical revolution" to socialized medicine will they wake up to the horrors of their choice. Even then, many of those who voted for the politicians who promised "socialized medicine" will continue to vote for them time and again. With the aide of the MSM who will continue to push socialized medicine, the liberals will have little difficulty in keeping the voter in the dark as to what happened to their unfettered medical system.

Bud
Perfectly worded. And Hugo Chavez is Lenin/Castro/Guevara in a clown suit.

still waiting on Dems trashing of troops
Chuck, et al:

So where is the proof that all the Dems you mentioned have trashed the troops? People keep mentioning it without any backup, citations, or quotes. I am starting to think it never happened....

As for MoveOn, who ever said they weren't biased in favor of Democrats? I certainly did not. Of course they are biased - just like everybody else with an aganda. On the other side we have Rush and Fox News, to name two. Can't get much more biased than them.

But there's bias, then there is flat-out lying. MoveOn's Betrayus ad was biased opinion, but not a lie. Rush denying he trashed the troops -lie. One need only listen to the broadcast for proof.

As I said earlier, radical is in the eye of the beholder. Hillary is not radical to me, she's actually too mainstream. Bush is not radical, he's just an idiot. This, of course, is just my opinion. Is that not what this hilarious website is all about?

To Enigma47
You know we just come from a different time. I remember no T.V., no Air Cond., out door jons, and 1 old pick up truck to get around. When we got something new we really felt we had accomplished someting by working for it and earning it. I am well off today, but I still really appreciate the good thing we have. Your correct, far too many see the someting for nothing and don't understand someone has to pay the bill. We have been so blessed in this country, and for the most part we have had good leadership, Hillary is not in that class, I just pray more Americans will see her for who she is.. Ron

nukes
Now we all know Billy paved the way for North Korea to get nuclear weapons because when he gave them the basic technology as a "peace dividend on a promise they wouldnt make weapons, who will Hilary's target benefactor for the "peace dividend" this time. Maybe Iran if we're all lucky. I am sure they know the blueprint on how to assure a Clinton they would never use technology for weapons.

Clinton's intelligence
"Senator Clinton can be pleasant, is certainly intelligent..."
If she is intelligent then why does she believe in stupid things like socialized medicine?
If she is so smart why does she believe, despite mountains of evidence, that government works better then private enterprise?

I expect Hugh Hewitt will answer this the same time he explains how Chemerinsky can be both "brilliant" and wrong at the same time.

Hillary is a Socialist
Enough. If you want a government that just gives you things without asking for anything in return except numb acquiescence, vote for the witch. There are no right-wing fundamentalist "radicals" in power. You're describing David Duke and he's in jail. If you want to see the destination of the road Hillary will travel, look at Western Europe, especially the accursed Swedes. If you think a Christian nation would be a living hell, wait until you live in a Moslem one. The Moslems will not Westernize. They will make the West Islamize. Most people are sheep, and the good majority of Moslems have been terrorized into silence. Hillary is not the one to lead the fight against that threat. She'd rather let Western culture and values fall than be accused of being a "racist" or "Islamophobe." But that's okay with you leftists, right? We'll have socialized medicine.

Interesting what passes for "radical"
I read today where Freedom Watch and the American Enterprise Institute have embarked on a 12-month fundraising effort to raise $200 million. The money is to be used to an advertising and public relations campaign to actively promote war with Iran.

At the same time, reading Hewitt's column, I find that Hillary Clinton is a "radical" because she wants any such action to receive congressional approval.

Perhaps this idea of Congress declaring war was radical once, some 200 years ago when it was written into the U.S. Constitution by our Founding Fahters, who were some of the age's foremost "liberals." I thought that controversy had passed but apparently not.

Perhaps Hewitt would have us return to the pre-American system, when rulers could declare war whenever, whereever and upon whomever they wanted at their pleasure?

Hillary voters are the problem
Petrovian:

I agree with you. We conservatives sound nervous, as if we don't really believe in what we believe. Voters who love Hillary are the real problem, and that's something we have to deal with by lifting up the cow's tail and having them look at the truth about her.

We don't understand how someone can vote for her. They can be against BushCo, but he's not running. Why is Hillary the answer to Bush?? Is it because they love socialism? Because they're going to get it in big doses. Is it that she won't get us into any more wars? Is that really what they want? "I'll take socialism over war-mongering?" That sounds so simplistic.

I believe what the libs are doing is creating an untenable situation where all government is failing, and they're the least worst. They will not admit it, and possibly don't even know it, but they're making a case against our democratic system of government.

They're covertly making a case for a more authoritative form of gov't, since this one allows for deranged corporate bootlickers like the Bushes/Cheneys to win the presidency.




Lies and damn lies
I am not an advocate of open borders. Please show me idiot one (aka wiseone) where I have posted such. I simply pointed out your complete lack of knowledge in regards to US immigration law.

And Doc. Hunter would consider him a radical--I consider him not worth thinking about. He is about as significant as Dennis Kuncinich.

The GOP nominee will be the man from New York and he will lose to Hillary. Want to lay odds on Hunter winning the nomination? The most recent polls show him between 3-1% which with the m.o.e. his support could be as low as 0%.

I could get between 1-3% in the polls--he has about as much support as Ron Paul. How about some state polls then...Iowa 2%, NH 1% (and 2 points behind Ron Paul), SC 1%, NV 1%--even in his home state, his largest amount of support in one poll is 4% (most others between 2-3%).

Also name me the last time a nominee of one of the major parties was a sitting member of the House? When was the last time a sitting member of the House won the presidency (Ford being selected as VP when Agnew resigned doesn't count)?

If you think Hunter has any chance, then you need to check into your sanity.




hunter
"Bush is not radical, he's just an idiot. This, of course, is just my opinion."

Fair enough. Of course, you're quite the idiot yourself; this is just my opinion, although I do have some basis for it. For example, there's the fact that your opinion is formed and stated in light of the fact that Bush flew an F-102 Delta Dagger in the 60s, logging hundreds of hours. Anyone reasonably informed knows that an idiot is simply not capable of this.

Of course, you could just be a standard Leftist, substituting the word "idiot" for "someone I disagree with"... of course, that, too, is fairly idiotic. The word "idiot" has a clear meaning having nothing to do with disagreeing with someone.

Freedom
We need more freedom, not less. With Hillary, we'll get less. And even Republicans act as if they're just trying to check the liberals' theft of our freedoms, instead of promoting more of it.

Get with it, Repubs. Start articulating not only the case AGAINST Hillary's socialism but the BENEFITS OF FREEDOM.

Why is this so hard to do? See Reagan for your cues.

DPRK
Rorman13:

What technology? The DPRK had been working on nukes for quite sometime before Clinton (as were a host of other countries in the region including Taiwan and the ROK). The light water reactors are unsuitable for the production of nuclear weapons and why these were promised to the DPRK. The DPRK has had a nuclear reactor for producing nuclear weapons online since 1986 and it was constructed starting in 1980.

You can blame Clinton for much, but the DPRK had the nuclear expertise to build a bomb long before Clinton ever reached the Oval Office.


Hillary
Oh and Ron, Hillary leads Rudy by 9 points in the most recent polls--doesn't mean this will stay like this--long way to go, but at this point I don't see her losing to the GOP.


and so is Obama
Obama wants to denuclearize so that terrorists don't feel intimidated.

Hunter2
Dems trashing the troops:

Murtha -accused Marines of murder before the court martial was even convened.

Durbin -accused the Army of Nazis tactic in Iraq

Kennedy -in a speech said that terror remained in Iraq -that it was just under new management (read: our military).

Hillary called General Pertreous a liar. That is, he committed perjury before Congress, which is a felony. Where is the special prosecutor?

Hillary also founded Media Matters, which is financially supported by Soros, who also finances MoveOn.


Nominate Rudy=Elect Hillary
.

The operating words are
I repeat: "when we got organized as a country we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans. There's
TOO MUCH PERSONAL FREEDOM, (not yelling, just emphasizing) when personal freedom is being abused, YOU HAVE TO MOVE TO LIMIT IT" Bill Clinton, sitting President, March 22, 1994, MTV
program Enough is Enough.

Now put those words in context with the war against Rush. You dopes on the left must agree with Clinton and if he said it, you don't think
Red Hilliary doesn't think it, plan for it, and will implement it? This is out of their play book, and these organizations are formed to do just that. They begin with the top, shutting down the voices of freedom they don't like, then they move to the columnists, then to the internet, then to the people who post on them,
then to the individual who dares to be politically incorrect. This is straight out of the Marxist play book. Manage the news and speech and you got your slaves for your workers paradise, and you can live high above the unwashed masses on the stolen money you squeeze from them.
Anyone, anyone who supports these thugs is either on the payroll, or just too stupid to understand what we face.
And this whole deal goes on while the terrorists
watch and wait. These thugs give aid and comfort to the enemy that wants to kill them..now
that's beyond stupid. But I've been told that
the emotional growth of a human being stops at the age one begins to really get into serious drug use as the 60's radicals (including I didn't inhale Bill, and that hippie wonder girl, the smartest woman on earth, Hitliary, not to mention the nincompoops elected to the DemonRat
Congress.)we see how effective burned out brains are when we see the do nothing Congress.

Virginia Patriot
That sure is a niiiiicee slogan ya got there... it'd look awful purty on a bumper sticker... but do you have anything to back it up?

Arguing with the stupid
People who respond to those who come on this site to make personal attacks against columnists they hate, and conservatives in general are simply wasting their own time and effort. It is a far, far better thing to ignore them to paraphrase an old English author.
I am reminded of the story of the chap seated at the bar of a saloon, when a rather spectaculary ugly, but expensively dressed woman walked up and sat down beside him. He looked her over and then said, "You are the ugliest woman I ever saw!"
She fixed him with a haughty stare and said, "You, Sir, are drunk."
He replied, "Yes, I am. But, tomorrow, I'll be sober and you'll still be ugly."
Point is, any of us can try to respond to these infesters with facts, but, tommorow, they will still be stupid. After all the comments made by Kerry about the troops terrorizing Iraqi women and children in the middle of the night; the comments by young Obama about us air raiding villages and killing civilians; Durbin's comparison of our troops to nazis, or Pol Pot's murderer's; Murtha's calling our Marines murderers; and little Harry Reid stating the at the war is lost, that our soldiers cannot win, are all well known and completely documented. Yet, there are still people who come here and pretend that these things did not happen, and ask for "proof" that democrats have maligned our troops. How droll!

Scroll by the Troll
.

JPK, wbheff, etc.
Thanks for the leads. If what you claim Murtha said is true, yes, it sounds like could be troop-trashing. I will look into that for my own knowledge (don't think much of Murtha anyway, methinks him a slimeball) and look into the context of his remarks.

Durbin and Kennedy were not talking about the troops, but about management of the war - hardly trashing the troops. Hillary calling Petraus a liar? Again, nothing to do with the troops. Hillary "founding" Media Matters - absolutely nothing to do with the war, let alone the troops.

So that's 1 out of 5. In baseball that'd be a .200 average - not too spectacular.

Rudy
VA Patriot (and you know what Samuel Johnson said about Patriotism):

Care to show any objective poll where any GOP candidate now runnning for president would beat Hillary?

Let me guess, you support either Ron Paul (averages about 2%) or Duncan Hunter (running around 1%).

If either of these were the nominee, we might see for the first time a president winning all 538 electoral votes. I'll ask again--when was the last time a sitting House member was the nominee of any major party? And when was the last time a sitting house member elected to the presidency?

Sorry, but neither Ron Paul (who is actually not a Republican anyway and blamed 9/11 on US foreign policy and if I did that I'd have been called a pinko, commie, liberal) or Hunter or Tancredo will be the nominee--the GOP is not a cult into mass suicide. The GOP will still lose in 2008, but they at least will but forward a candidate that has some hope at winning.

VoteVets.org = Anti-War Front Group
Hunter writes in her 9:50am post

"chuck writes:
They ALL love Rush?

http://www.votevets.org/"

Hunter, please do some research. Just because a website contains the name “Vets”, does not make it a legitimate resource sounding the voice of the majority of the proud members of our military.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55644

http://www.elephantbiz.com/2007/05/votevets_a_democratic_politica.html

And if you whine about the two above being conservative sources then try this laughable article from the Washington Poke:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/07/AR2007020702317.html - trying to give the group credibility but the truth is right in the article for anyone with half a brain to see (guess that means we’ll have to explain it to you…in small, easy to understand words).



Marriage of socialism and democracy
Left Angle: many countries have "succeeded" in bringing the two together. Nobody's talking about Stalinism. It won't get that far. But it will lean closer to it than libertarianism.

Ignore the Trolls
We, all appreciate that there are those who have different political opinions, but these Trolls who think Socialism is the answer to everything, and that the Muslim fanatical terrorists will fade into the woodwork, if we leave them alone are,truly, socially and politically, living under a bridge. Agreed, we just walk around the Trolls....ignore their empty yammering.

Media Matters
JPK:

Media Matters was founded by David Brock, who was one that broke the stories about Clinton and Troopergate and exposed Anita Hill. But once he came out as a homosexual, he turned his back on the conservatives and became a flaming (sorry for the pun) liberal and founded Media Matters.

It is heavily funded by Soros. So get the right demon.

Hillary didn't actually say Pertreous was lying--she said his testimony required the willing suspension of disbelief. It amounts to the same thing, but she didn't make the charge exactly.

Trolls
Not a socialist and don't think the Islamic radicals will leave the US alone (but this is what Ron Paul thinks) if the US pulls out of the ME.

And those that are living under a bridge are those that think Duncan Hunter and Ron Paul have a chance in hell of being elected. I have a better chance at being named the Foreign Minister of the PRC.


Consequences
My dear old Granmother, my Father's Mother (the Retired Sergeant Major of Engineers) used to say, "'tis a pity that stupidity isn't physically painful."

Exact wording
If saying that a person's testimony requires will suspension of disbelief is not calling the testifier a liar, then saying, "Akagi isn't drunk all the time," is not calling said poster a sot.

founding father
Hey thanks for the info but the problem is that we are dealing with an ignorant DUMBOCRAP. I dont waste my time on HUNTER or who ever he is today or tommorrow, these LIBSCUM change their call signs all the time becuase they cant handle the heat. To them when a LIBSCUM in Congress bashes the troops it is acceptaqble but when someone on the other side is misquoted their peanut brain evaporates into pee and drains out of their CRANIUMS. I wonder how many LIBS will ask me now what a CRANIUM is.

Liberals and The Rich
I'm still waiting for democrats to define "rich."

I suspect I may be one.

And I suspect you are too.

That includes liberals. Are you okay with getting heavily taxed?

When oil companies are forced to pay "windfall" taxes, will you be happy when you pay for those taxes at the pump? You will pay.

Make sure you have a good idea of what 2008-2012 might look like.

Sorry, one more take
When I look to the future I want freedom. Lots of it.

Small government.

Lowered taxes.

Free market enterprise.

Government is largely inept. Big government is always inept. It doesn't create anything. It doesn't create wealth. It only takes it away.

Lower taxes and regulations help create entrepeneurial opportunities for everyone, especially people looking to better themselves.

Free market enterprise always delivers solutions, and will in the healthcare arena. But it needs time.

Freedom again
Left Angle:

I don't disagree on this: the country would never allow communism to become real. But socialism is another matter. There are all sorts of degrees of socialism. The most benevolent kind is still socialism. And government that knows better than its people by imposing UHC

Not me
I do have a sip of Gekkeikan sake from time to time or Sapporo Beer, but rarely drunk.

Hillary was saying he was lying--just didn't directly accuse him of it--plausible deniability. "I never said he was a liar or he lied." If she directly called him that, there would be calls from the right to charge him with perjury and call for his arrest on those charges. She didn't want to go down that road--she is too smart for that.

the only reason
is the dimwit nominee is she married the right man. do you really think schumer would take a back seat to her if he wasn't afraid of the clinton smear machine. bill's not her's

Hillary will "lose"
the Middle East and bring a Carter ec. like the late '70s after the failure in Vietnam.

It was: high inflation (double digit)

high unemployed (nationally over 7%, 10% in some places)

high interest rates (the first 18% credit cards)

prolonged recession (below 1% productivity)

a 700 stock market economists wondered whether it would ever hit 1000.

It took Reagan's 1982 tax cut to start the boom that has lasted virtually 15 years.

A Clinton econ. would mesh exactly with an ec. slowdown that tends to occur at the ends of decades. So those who don't like their jobs and are just crazy to pay more taxes, elect Hillary and enjoy.


Left Angle
=WHAT EVER= OR DO YOU MEAN FROM THE ()val office?
hmmm maybe like whoopee she would like to pleasure nancy, you know kinda like billary and moncia. I wonder if she will keep stogies there like him AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Hunter 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta
HUP TWO THA REE FOUR
SHAGGY LIVES UPON A HILL,
IF HE DON’T DO IT HIS PAL HAL WILL!
HUP TWO THA REE FOUR
HAL SOUND OFF!
IAM A SOAP WITHOUT A ROPE KINDA GUY!

the truth is
she's a mean spirited, hateful women and no one likes her. actually she wants to be crowned queen of america. we'll see.

Freedom again...more
...doesn't create prosperity; it only re-distributes wealth. That's dipping into your pocket to help pay for "moral causes".

The economy stupid
Presidents have little impact on how the economy runs--good or bad. I have no doubt Hillary's election will cause some negative economic impacts (e.g. her desire to raise capital gain taxes), but while Carter helped to hurt the economy much of the causes were out of his hands. Do you expect another oil shock under Clinton?

You might want to note the US economy was pretty good under her husband and was pretty bad under the current president's father. (Neither could honesty take credit or blame for this fact).


the fabulous timbo
according to the sage of harlem, charlie rangell, he has used the number of $80,000. as both a figure for people being wealthy and also the figure that is the amount determining who lives in poverty.

hunter
"If what you claim Murtha said is true, yes, it sounds like could be troop-trashing."

If????

Are you truly that ill-informed? And if so, why exactly do you think that we should take ANYTHING you have to say seriously?

Murtha is going to be sued
by the Marines he called killers before any investigation was conducted for slander and defamation.

Four of those young Marines have been court martialed and found not quilty and fifth is to follow.

Dn't you get it, Hillary is a Marxist
Hunter: Instead of dumping billions on Iraq Hillary would dump billions on our citizens and ruin our nation.

Over 50% of all revenues received by the government are transfer payments: this isn't money paid to the soldier for doing his job; this is money that goes directly out of my pocket to someone else's, for nothing in return.

Robbing Peter to pay Paul (this includes free health care, free daycare, etc.) is the surest way to kill both human spirits. People in general thrive on the model of being rewarded for their hard work, and no one likes to be forced to work for someone else.

I haven't even started on the enormous bureaucracy President Hillary would create. If you think this is a great idea I dare you to try to do anything efficiently at your local DMV or post office.

renny
Actually I believe the charges were dismissed... it never proceeded as far as a verdict

If Hitlery
is elected I forsee a large reduction in our NCO
(non-commissioned officer) ranks in the military.
The NCO is the backbone of the military and I cannot see alot of veteran NCO's wanting to serve with her as Commander in Chief. When President Bubba was president alot of NCO's didnt want to retire as they did not to have their retirement certificates signed by a draft dodger. I also see alot of company grade officers leaving the service to..but that's been a problem for a long time.

Soldier Soldiers
to Hunter and the rest of the nutroots, you aint a "soldier" until you finish basic training. Until then you are a recruit. Your poster boy, Jesse McPhoney, was NOT a soldier but called himself one. If you had a few brain cells not drug deranges, you would say that is a "phoney". I heard the original Rush comment & wholeheartedly agreed with him and didnt have any problem understanding EXACTLY wwhat he was saying.
Hey Duck, great posts. I gotta remember them.

to those who can read...
This is Hunter and Hunter2 (same. one at work, one at home). Always have been, always will be.

Unlike some people here, I will admit when I don't know something. And will admit when I learn something, even if it's from some of the boneheads who just want to attack others. Murtha's comments, for example. See, I don't put too much stock in such things anyway. No matter what anyone says about the troops - even though I agree we should not trash them - they are big boys and girls. They can fight and shoot and kill, but a couple snide comments by some stupid congressman are going to completely demoralize them? I don't think so.

I guess I have more faith in our troops than the Republics do. When they whine about folks "not supporting the troops" they are selling the troops short - which to me is not supporting them. And they whine simply to score political points. The troops know the country supports them despite what the country thinks of the war and the failed Presidency that got us into it.

The bright side of POTUS Hildebeast
Call me an optimist, but if Hillary does become President, I predict Republicans will win back the House by a wide margin and probably the Senate as well in the 2010 election. She along with the Dem majority will raise our taxes, grant amnesty to illegals, and make a disaster out of the middle east causing a dramatic increase in the already high cost of oil. It will make the 94 landslide her husband caused look like close election by comparison.

apoplectic
"She (Hillary)along with the Dem majority will...make a disaster out of the middle east ..."
-------------------------------------------------
Oh, come on! You have got to be joking! Have you not seen or read the news over the past 4 years? What would you call what's going on in the middle east under Bush? A picnic? Birthday party? Whoever inherits his war of choice is going to have a terrible situation to clean up. And someone is going to have to raise taxes at some point to make up for all the money Bush has wasted. Incredible!

Jezebel
Jezebel of the end time!

hunter
"The troops know the country supports them despite what the country thinks of the war and the failed Presidency that got us into it."

Now that's where you and the left have it wrong. Many, (and from what I've heard from those who have been there, most) believe in the mission. They believe they are doing something good for their country, the people of Iraq, and the world. They believe that the sacrifices they are making, and the friends they have lost who made the ultimate sacrifice were not made in vain. Those on the left tell them they're sacrifices are for nothing. Their friends have died for a mistake or for oil, or for greed. These men and women want nothing more than to succeed. To prove that their sacrifices meant something. To come home to the pride and honor that they sacrificed so much for and so richly deserve. Those that want to take this from them may claim to support them and I believe most honestly do. They just don't understand. That is why so many of us say, the time to debate the merits of war is before the troops hit the ground.

Hillary & Putin Are Cut From Same Cloth
I agree with Mr. Hewitt, Hillary is truely an extreme Lefty, to the point of being a control freak along the lines of President Putin of Russia. If you oppose her, you will be hurt, personally.

She may never go to war overseas, but will surely go to war with us citizens. She will raise taxes. She will corral us into vice-like Government controls such as Health Care, Media oversight (ala Media Matters and the Fairness Doctrine), FBI and CIA intrusions for political and personal gain (ala smears of past "bimbo eruptions" with her husband) and extensive cronyism (ala Travel dept) to name a few.

Like Putin with Russia's highest office, she has managed to find another method to gain the White House, again. I doubt that she can pull this lie off with the public. I expect, as with Kerry and Gore before her, the American public will leave her behind where they belong.

apoplectic
I agree the time to debate the merits of a war is before it begins. Unfortunately, POTUS Bush did not allow for any debate beforehand. And while I'm sure many soldiers do believe in the mission, I know there are many who do not. They want to do the best job they can, of course, as they committed to doing when they signed up, but they feel bewildered and and wondering why the army has not given them all the protection and equipment they need to fight safely; they wonder why there has been no diplomacy; they wonder why mercenaries such as from Blackwater are allowed to run slipshod over the country, free from any accountability; and they wonder what will become of them if they are gravely wounded. If anyone has not been supporting the troops, it is the POTUS.

hunter
"[the troops] feel bewildered and and wondering why the army has not given them all the protection and equipment they need to fight safely; they wonder why there has been no diplomacy; they wonder why mercenaries such as from Blackwater are allowed to run slipshod over the country, free from any accountability..."

Project much?

Seriously, where do you get this stuff? Could you possibly find MORE Leftist memes to cram into the mouths of soldiers?

Funny, of the two dozen or so friends and family in the military that I have spoken to about their experiences over the last couple years, NONE has expressed a sentiment remotely like what you describe.

hunter: PS
There was plenty of diplomacy. Roughly 13 years of it, actually. Didn't do much good; what indication do you think there was that that was likely to change in any significant way?

Hunter Lost In Politics
Hunter asks, "What would you call what's going on in the middle east under Bush? A picnic? Birthday party?"

War on Terror.

You may have missed it. It was in all of the papers. The President was even commissioned by Congress and the American people to execute this war. He was even re-elected to continue the mission, which he has.

In the last election, the Republican Party lost seats and Congress, mainly for not delivering a victory as expected. He is working on it and Congress has stepped aside to let him continue.

It seems that the middle east was allowed to stew up a bunch of hate for America over the past twenty or so years without check. I guess the Clinton's were busy elsewhere. Anyway, it boiled over on Bush's watch. He is fixing it as he was commissioned to do. It may be ugly, war usually is, but it is being fixed.

You call that radical?
I think Hillary is the only Democrat who's moderate enough to entrust with the presidency. Kucinich is clearly radical, and Obama and Edwards are extremely liberal. By betraying conservative principles, I'm afraid Bush and the formerly Republican Congress have all but ensured a Democrat in the White House.

What we need, I think, is a radically conservative thinker in the White House. The only social conservative who fits that description is Huckabee; the only fiscal conservative who fits that description is Ron Paul...and we know what you think of Paul, Mr. Hewitt.

Painting Hillary as a left wing radical is good politics, but it's disingenuous IMO.

http://www.newsprism.com


Hunter
"I agree the time to debate the merits of a war is before it begins. Unfortunately, POTUS Bush did not allow for any debate beforehand."

Please, there was certainly debate and even a vote in the House and Senate. All were overwhelmingly for war (no matter how the dems try to spin their votes afterwards). I knew it meant war without immediate compliance from Sadaam and so did every one of those that voted for it.

The Root of All Evils
To HRC from Hsu/Chung, to Hsu/Chung from xxx, to xxx from CCP.

For HRC by MediaMatters/MoveOn, for MediaMatters/MoveOn by Soros, for Soros by xxx, for xxx by CCP.

CCP have "officially" launched a "state wealth fund" company with a capital of US$200 billion (out of the US$1500 billion "reserve" from exports) to invest in (1) foreign exchanges, (2)foreign companies. How many new xxx's can hide in there?

As far as "investment" in foreign exchanges are concerned, just the brokerage fee can make the "most qualified broker" shrink and a tithe from it can raise 10 MoveOns and 'elect' 10 HRCs!

The debate was 17 resolutions
in the UN.


Libs: Hillary is Divine Punishment
I don't hear or read much about why libs like Hillary so much. They never talk about her. They kind of...tolerate her.

This leads me to believe they REALLY want her as president out of a sense of justice. They want the country to be punished. And they know Hillary is severe punishment for us conservatives.

When I go around the different boards, I don't read a whole lot of chat about policies other than her pet UHC. They're all diagnosed with BDS extremis.

It's not Hillary for President. It's Hillary for Punishment.

Tell me the truth, libs. A grain of truth in there for each of you?

Hmmmmm?


erudite
repubs are worrying unnecessarily. Once the primaries are finished, the msm won't be distracted by the presence of oblahma and edweirds and the whole country will start to focus on the repub candidate and the missus clinton. she is acting very cocky but she has no competition. The dims pushed the other dim losers to get the missus clinton into game shape. However they weren't successful. There are already chinks in her armour and more mistakes will come. But the repubs will rally behind their candidate and the country will finally start to look at the real missus clinton

I want to make a motion...
I move that herinafter the organization formerly known as "moveon.org" be referred to as "Bowel Movement,org" due to its exceptionally sh*tty nature which it comes by naturally as a result of its origins with excrement like the Clintons and George Souros.

Hillary's Coronation
Dear Hugh,

Uh huh. Yep. Mm hm. Yes. I agree. You're right on all counts about Hillary. Let me pose a few questions and answers:

Q. Who's going to stop Hillary?

A. No one.

Q. Who's to blame for this impending election disaster that's about to happen to our country?

A. George Bush (accompanied by a spineless PC Republican Party); who refused to seal our borders after the limited endless War began; who is willing to give up the sovereignty and erase the borders of our nation for corporate profits; who spent earmark money like drunken Democrats; who surrounded himself with incompetent mealy-mouthed cronies like Alberto Gonzales, Michael Chertoff, and Harriet Meiers; who opened up a second front in the endless War before the first front was secured; who still has not named and defined the Enemy (The Enemy is not "Terror", "Terror" is a tool of the Enemy); who was and still is pitifully unable or unwilling to comprehend the World of Islam; who still foolishly believes that we can impose democratic thought on the Collective Mind of the World of Islam; who is one of the poorer extemporaneous speakers we have seen in the White House; and Mark Foley.

Q. Is this backlash against the Republicans rational or reasonable?

A. No. But conservatives are fed up and very, very angry with what we've been handed by the "RINOs" we put into office. We've been sold out on our sovereignty, our national identity, our outsourced jobs, and we're in another limited, endless War that we are not fighting to really win. We're just too PC to withstand the collateral damage that fighting to win would cause. If your'e not going to fight a War to win the War, don't go to War. So, a lot of us will stay home in November of 2008.

medvedis
I'm not too frightened by Hillary but I must admit her flying monkeys scare me a little.

Ron Paul
Erudite:

I doubt even Ron Paul would have been against the war with Japan since the US was attacked by Japan--he may have been against the embargo that lead the Japanese to attack though and who knows what would have happened if the US hadn't cut off Japan's oil. He would no doubt have supporter war with Germany since Germany foolishly declared war on the US after the Japanese attack.

Unsure what his stance would have been on the Soviets, but I would think he would have been against US actions in Vietnam, Korea, defending Taiwan (after 1950), etc.

He would I am fairly sure have been opposed to America's participation in WWI--a war the US foolishly got involved in and had no business in. The US participation in WWI is one of the major reasons public opinion was so against getting involved in WWII before Pearl Harbor as many felt the US was sucked into WWI and they had no intention of getting sucked into another European war. As I am sure he would have been against the Spanish-American War, The Filipino-American War--talk about naked aggression, and the Mexican War (Lincoln was against this one as well).

Oh and I am no Ron Paul fan, in case you were curious.

UN Res. 1441
The President also had approval to use force from UN resolution 1441,
=======================================

No he didn't. 1441 required that the entire Ssecurity Council decide what to do if Saddam was in non-compliance.

Ron
Ron-Agree 100%- Hilary is vicious, bitter and disingenuous and a fraud all in one. People see through her cackle and socialist policies.
The conservatives have the upper hand to keeping America strong.

Hillary-loves Republicans!
Hunter, most of the guys here have as much testosterone as Liberace. Why in the world would any
gentleman talk that way to a lady. If they went on a date with Ann Coulter she would be wearing the pants.
Hillary is too much like a neo-con Republican. Her husband voted for NAFTA and she is taking too much $$$$$$ from big contributers. In other words she is owned, and not by the working people of America. Many Democrats do not like Mrs. C. either, because she is really a Neo-Pub.
The average man on the street wants the truth.

I think only Gravel, Paul and Kucinich are not beholding to anyone and can tell the truth. Even though I do not agree with everything he stands for Ron Paul is at least addressing the Federal Reserve problem. It is the elephant in the room no one wants to talk about.
The fact that our debt is so out of control is
the concern of many Americans. I will not vote for anyone who does not have some fiscal responsibility for the future generations. YES, Rushie-limbotomy is STILL FAT! He lost weight when he was doing hillbilly heroin. When he got off drugs he gained a lot of his weight back. He has an addictive personality. He implied any soldier that disagrees with him is phony. Two soldiers in my family, (one in the Army, one in the Navy) think the wars are a big mistake for army reasons. They served in both Afghanistan and Iraq. One did 2 tours. The big mouth chicken hawks out there can do a couple of tours so my brother can stay home with his small children. It is so easy to be pro war when you are too bloody old to fight! So, get off your butts and enlist and stop blogging you paper tigers.

I Wuv Her Sense of Humor...
It's yummy.The delicate,admirable kackle comes when she's just had a question she won't answer.
Like clockwork.She's shrill,brittle,controlling,
bitter,vastly enabling & codependent.She's put up with Billy-boy's compulsive serial filandering for 3-decades.We can't have that psycho-pathology in the White House.Period.NO strong woman with true leadership muscles would have co-signed his
sleaziness time & time & time & time again. Nope,she hung in there to be next to power(and an
inexpressably high level of denial).No one of true
strength and character would have done one one-hundredth of it.That the feminists are for her says it all about where that movement has come.
Sad.

hillaryitis
symptoms:
whitewatergate-inconsistencies,lies,cover-ups
billygate-i did not have sex with that woman?
senategate-i was for it before i was against it?
americaschoicegate-"free" healthcare, 5k a babe, 1k for every vote 401 plan?

cure: send hillary,pelosi,reid,boxer,feinstein,obama on expedition to iran,cuba,hugoland one-way!

Hillary has one positive quality
She is not a fascist, and she respect the constitution. The Repukeliscum running for POTUS all to a man wish to trash the constitution in return for some phantom "security". They don't want us notified if the government is prying into our phone calls! GEEZUS!! Fascist crap!!

I'll take Hillary. She is more of a man than any of them. She is not afraid of mice like Hewitt and all the Repukeliscum candidates.

We are not in danger from anybody, although the Repukeliscum NEED to pretend otherwise. We need to stand up, stop being afraid of mice, and REJECT FASCIST TYRANNY FROM FRIGHTENED REPUKELISCUM.

dateguy
Right on the MONEY you are Sir..

Ordinarily I get pretty annoyed at closed minded, sour-grape comment made by the so called "Right" regarding this country, this government, and just about anything else for that matter. But it doesn’t seem to bother me nearly as much as it usually does, BECAAAAUSE……


Hilary Clinton is the next United States President!!!

And They Know It!!


Oh Yeah, and she's bringing Bill with her. :-)
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