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Monday, May 11, 2009
Herb London :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Unfolding Iranian Drama
by Herb London
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Based on hints, feints, public pronouncements, and off the record commentary, the administration’s stance toward Iran is coming into focus. Without any question, military action against Iran is off the agenda. The Obama administration will do nothing to prevent the further enrichment of uranium by Iran’s mullahs, notwithstanding who is elected in that nation’s upcoming vote.

The negotiations with Iran are based on the premise that Iran can produce as much enriched uranium as it wants as long as a nuclear bomb isn’t manufactured. In other words, Obama seeks a “Japanese solution,” the conditions for a bomb without actually making one.

For some, this is a distinction without a difference since the bomb can be made in days if deployment is in the cards. If Obama can get the Iranians to agree to this arrangement with adequate blandishments provided by our side, including the lifting of sanctions, he will announce with great fanfare that “peace” between Iran and the West has been achieved. For keen observers of the region, it will be regarded as a “Munich peace.” For others, it will be seen as a significant diplomatic breakthrough.

In order to mollify Israeli leaders that this deal isn’t threatening to that nation’s survival, Obama will argue that the United States stands committed to employ its nuclear umbrella to protect Israel against nuclear attack. Although this offer will be made with apparent sincerity, it is hard to believe that Obama would be willing to risk the safety of New York in order to protect Tel Aviv. Moreover, it is also hard to believe any serious official in Israel will accept this proposal, albeit other options may not be available.

The Obama administration has made it clear that it will punish Israel if it decides to attack Iran unilaterally. Having failed to contain Iran, the United States is concentrating on restraining Israel. Administration contingency plans include a formal condemnation of Israel, support for a United Nations Security Council resolution that could include sanctions against Israel and suspending military aid to the Jewish state.

The big question is what the Obama administration will do if Israel, determining that Iran with the capacity to build nuclear weapons, is an existential threat and despite, U.S. disapproval, attacks Iran in any case. Moreover, how will President Obama react if Iran retaliates against Israel as well as shutting down the 29 mile wide Strait of Hormuz, through which twenty percent of the world’s crude oil is transported? Would the U.S. fight back, would it blame Israel for the preemptive attack on Iran appealing to the “Muslim world” for understanding?

Iran, that has vowed “to wipe Israel off the map,” and its Hezbollah and Hamas proxies would retaliate with missile launches on Tel Aviv and Haifa should any attack on Iran occur. For Israel to be even marginally successful, it must eliminate missile installations in Gaza, Lebanon and Iran – a truly formidable military objective.

Decades of appeasement and accommodations with Iran have led to the present impasse. These policy blunders cannot be attributed to President Obama. In fact, blame belongs on both sides of the political aisle. However, what distinguishes Obama’s diplomatic initiative from others is the “downgrading” of Israel in order to strike a “grand bargain” with Iran for regional “pacification.” Whether Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu wants it or not, Jerusalem is now on a collision course with Washington.

Israelis may be understandably stunned by the evolution of events. They are on the horns of a dilemma. Netanyahu has responded to the emerging U.S. position by noting that he will be accommodative on any argument with the Palestinians if Obama can negate the Iranian threat. He is attempting to establish a nexus between a Palestinian accord and the elimination of this threat. After all, he contends, if Iran is in the position to build nuclear weapons, the weapons serve as a cover for Hamas missile attacks against the state of Israel since escalation could lead to a nuclear exchange and should be avoided at all cost.

The Obama administration position is 180 degrees in a different direction. It appears to be arguing that an accommodative Israel that makes a deal with the Palestinians for a separate state will have American protection against a possible Iranian nuclear attack. But the first and overarching responsibility lies with Israel to arrange its negotiated settlement with Palestinian leaders.

President Obama believes time is on his side since he has already conceded with his “engagement” drive that Iran will have the time to enrich enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon. Prime Minister Netanyahu, unable to accept the potential threat, feels time is of the essence. The closer Iran gets to the fateful “tipping point,” the closer Israel is to survival issues.

Erstwhile President Jimmy Carter tried to assuage Israeli leaders in 1979 by noting that his craven concession to Iranian leaders did not pose a threat to Israel. Is Barack Obama preparing to go one step further in downgrading the importance of Israel in his attenuated negotiation with Iran? History is waiting impatiently for an answer and the world waits with bated breath.

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Herbert London is president of Hudson Institute and professor emeritus of New York University. He is the author of Decade of Denial (Lanham, Maryland: Lexington Books, 2001).

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A question...
So does this leave the United States with a moral obligation to support our long time ally Israel? And with Israel being the only democracy in the middle east, should we not be defending her anyways?

And as a Bible reader, I also want to pose the question, do we not also have a Biblical obligation to defend the people of Israel as well according to the Bible?

Let the debate begin...

We should always support Israel
I am waiting fot the Big O to ask for network news time to claim he alone got the American journalist safely out of jail in Iran through his regal Obamagic and love for Ahmadinejad and the enire Islamic jihad.

Impeach this imposter obama
Otherwise accept the destruction of this countries laws, standards, morals and Constitution.

After several months investigation of who this guy obama really is, I am convinced he is a complete fraud, hired by the enemies of America.
He has pulled off the greatest swindle in the history of the world.

There is not a single honest bone in his body.
He worse than a liar, he is a tyranical liar

t.s.
If I read the stuff you read, I'd be as disappointed too. Most of what 's written about O isn't true though, or its blow out of proportion, just so that he fails.

daft whines "Most of what's written

about O isn't true though..."


Ha Ha Ha... YEAH? PROVE IT!




Here you go Taft
Read this and point out the mis-information.
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html


Follow his life (skip place of birth if you like).

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm

Begin your own study of this man, and compare it to his statements, and deeds in hiding all his records, illegal under Article 4 US Constituition.

He has lied in every single phrase of his life.

Here is an affidavit swearing he was born in Kenya.

http://www.obamanotqualified.com/grandmother.htm

If nothing else is ever said and done, this singular affidavit demands the Courts try the facts concerning this man.

He held Indonesian Citizenship and it cannot be denied in any credibility.

He held Indonesian Citizenship up to at least 18-19 years old.

Here is his mothers Divorce papers from Lolo Soetoro showing Obama as a dependent of Lolo, an Indonesian Citizen.

http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf



Here is proof he was not born in a hospital in Hawaii, they have no records of him or his mother ever being there.

http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135

After months of research, digging up all available information one can find (he has not been able to hide) your opinion means nothing.

Why don't you research the man and be honest.

talent scout: Like you, I've been

following this "lack of proof of eligibility" for months and months and months...

Only a true idiot is able to sit back and not even question Obozo's eligibility knowing that he's spent over $860K (at last count that I'm aware of) and has gone to such extreme lengths (time - effort - expense) to NOT provide simple basic documents that each and every one us has to provide to get a J-O-B!


Ooops, there goes daft! He does that...

runs off, TOTALLY UNABLE to face up to R-E-A-L-I-T-Y!

Can't you almost hear it??? daft's hands over his ears, running away singing... "La-la-la-la ... I can't hear you, ... la-la-la ... I can't hear you, la-la-la ... I can't hear you ... "





talent scout
I agree with all that you say. But this monster not only should be impeached, he should be hanged for Treason!

Anne
Daft, like all Liberals that support their New God Ovomit, are in complete denial! In their eyes he can do no wrong.

Goshawk: Agreed! And I also agree that

Obozo should be impeached, and hanged for Treason!


NOT ONE SINGLE DUMB-O-CRAT has come up with ONE SINGLE realistic or reasonable reason why Obozo hasn't provided proof of eligibility....

Not to mention, Obozo appears to be more and more complicit


I am convinced to the point
Of swearing an oath Obama is a complete and utter fraudulent person Anne.

The Courts are aiding a crime if they will not try the facts as they are required to do under the Law.

The Courts are abusing the subject of Standing in several ways.
The Court is required to try every case that arises under the US Constitution, Article III.

The most galling hypocricy of all in the issue of Standing is denying American Citizens such as Alan Keyes, a contestant for President and grant Standing to Foreign Combatants.

Also hi-jacking an authority not given by law to take captured prisoners in foreign nations and grant them access to Civil Courts.

That is a blatant crime against the Law itself by the Court.

We do not have a legal government in Washington DC today, we have crime.

From failing to uphold immigration law to the above mentioned anarchy by government itself

Obama's popularity is comic
Book characterization.

The obama of the media creation does not exist, the real obama is a fraud and a liar.

A fraud so gigantic it surpasses the fraud found in every courtroom case in history in my judgment.

We have watched the press create an image of some man who does not exist with the obama fraud

Hanging is an answer
When America had civil servants in government.

Hanging removed the uncivil and the lawless.

Since hanging has been outlawed and called uncivil, the uncivil and the lawless run the streets, and in some cases the courts

We ALL KNOW IQ29 has absolutely NO idea

what he’s yammering about… RIGHT?



Obozo's REFUSAL to meet with Netanyahu

pretty much tells us all we need to know.


The obama has insulted
Every friend of America and every citizen in America.

With his fraud and his ignorance, an ignorance praised as enlightenment and the aide of fraud by this impostor by the media itself.

Anne, I do not respond to that idiot IQ29.

I wish everyone would ignore the fool

renny: Yeah, like he left Capt. Phillips

out there with the pirates for five days so his FBI out there...

Obozo does such some head things and is too arrogant he doesn't think we "notice."

Hello-o-o-o

On course, IQ29 doesn't notice. :-)


Evasiveness
BHO on the BC. It is odd for such a simple thing to go unanswered.It'd take 2 minutes to dispell and everyone could leave it alone.

Yet here we are all lawyered up? I don't get it?

I will be meeting with some of my jewish-mideast clients this week. It'll be interesting to hear what the inside story is (they will know it).

Anne, a strange commonality
between Oblunder and Yasir Arafat--both claim(ed) to be born in a place where they were not:
(*) Oblunder claims Hawaii (but no hospital has record, he wasn't born at home, forged COLB posted to divert attention), actually born (based on paternal-grandmum's memory) in Mombasa, Kenya
(*) Arafat, CLAIMED to be born in Jerusalem "in shadow of Wailing Wall", but proven (in more than one way) to be born in Cairo (last I checked, Egypt)--and didn't even spend time in Jerusalem before 18th birthday

And, both evil-to-core (Arafat imbibed doctrines, including that of "entitlement to be Sultan" from mentor Haj-amin Husseini, Oblunder is Soros' henchman).

Iran's "vote" basically similar
to Indian Presidential election (no mistake), except that the chosen candidate is much more dangerous (Indian President is pure figurehead, while Iranian is henchman of clerics council) both to own country and outsiders.

Not of this world
writes:
"I will be meeting with some of my jewish-mideast clients this week. It'll be interesting to hear what the inside story is (they will know it)."

Get some info now from the Israeli's, I have.

One of the best sources for what and where to look for the fraud of the obama.

http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12956.htm

'I will be filing until I get an answer'
Says California attorney Orly Taitz.
"She'll be returning to the high court, this time seeking a petition for the extraordinary writ of mandamus."

http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=97493

More and more people are seeing through this cover-up and backing this real American immigrant, a legal one I am glad is here.


Afghanistan Today
If what unfolded today is any indication of how Iran-Israel will be handled (and it will); Apologizing for supposed civilian casualities that the Taliban claimed. The sad truth may be that the Taliban did that to make us look bad. And yet, BHO and Billary apologized for it and promised an investigation.

So once again, the Taliban know how to push the American button to back off. Guess we shall see how it unfolds. But its certainly telling of what may be to come.

svpallava: Yes! I'd forgotten about

Arafat. Eeerie similarity!

I just don't know WHAT it's going to take for some of these bone-heads to wise up and get their heads out of the sand.



Audacity-Frauds:Mohammed, Hitler, Obama

Dr. Ali Sina, February 8, 2009

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/audacity-frauds/index. htm

“Bold, Arrogant, Megalomaniac, Narcissist, Compulsive Liar and a fraud celebrity, erected by the American Liberal Media and sold to the naïve public as the 44th president of United States of America! Obama with the highest amount of campaign funds in the history of America, had practically bought his way in to the presidency!

“We may wonder how evil men like Hitler and Muhammad fooled so many people to the extent that under their spell they willingly committed the most hideous crimes. Could this happen again? Could, in this day and age, another narcissist deceive millions with his big lies? Sadly, the answer is yes. Human evolution is only technological. Psychologically and emotionally we are still cavemen. It is at this level that people are conned and narcissists operate. Obama’s followers worship him. They act thuggishly towards his critics.

"Even law enforcers, such as sheriffs and prosecutors have agreed with him to abuse their authority and form “Obama Truth Squads.” It is clear the intent is to intimidate h is critics. Does truth need the hand of law? “Yes,” if you ask Hitler, Muhammad and Obama, “no,” if you ask Jesus and Buddha. This is just the beginning. What do Obama’s minions do when he is actually in power? Their cultic mentality and their vicious attacks of his critics can only be likened to that of Muslims, fascists, Nazis, Bolshevists and followers of Jim Jones. This level of fanaticism is unprecedented in American politics.”

Cont…..


Audacity of Frauds: Part II

Mohammed, Hitler, Obama!
Dr. Ali Sina, February 8, 2009

http://iranpoliticsclub.net/politics/audacity-frauds/index. htm

“It does not take much to see that Obama, like the above conmen is a narcissist and like them, dangerous. There are many obvious clues to those who understand narcissism. One is the fact that he is a serial liar. Some of his lies are big, so big that few doubt them.

“Could anyone in their right mind run for the presidency of the USA if he or she is not an American? This sounds ludicrous and yet, there is cause to believe that Obama may actually be an illegal immigrant and ineligible for the senate, let alone the presidency.

“It is not a secret that I am not an Obama fan. I have gone out of my way to w arn Americans to be wary of this Pied Piper.

“Despite my bias, when I first heard this allegation made by Philip Berg, a lifelong Democrat and a former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania, I dismissed it. The possibility of one person having the audacity to bamboozle an entire country and commit a fraud so colossal just seemed too farfetched.

“However, I know a thing or two about narcissism. I know narcissists have no grasp of reality and as such they can be very audacious. I also know about the magic of the big lie. So I paid attention to what Berg says and hey, he seems to be on to something. Then again, what did Obama have to lose? He may not even have dreamt that he would win. Just running for presidency would have given him fame and recognition, something a narcissist would kill for. But hey, the world is full of suckers and surprise, what started as a prank became a reality.”


And be sure to note the paragraph quoted from Chapter 10 of Mein Kampf.



Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer
Understanding Obama: The Making of a Fuehrer
By Ali Sina
2008/09/22

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html


David #1: Excellent point!

"... do we not also have a Biblical obligation to defend the people of Israel as well according to the Bible?"

Yes! And as a (supposed) Christian, Obozo would know that...

But, he did write, that if push came to shove, he'd stand with the muslims....



Israel Is On Its Own
and it better act in IT'S OWN self interest.

Obama (who is not a US citizen and is a Muslim) is dishonest and not trustworthy. Beware of the Muslim usurper in the White House.

svpallava:
A US citizen (who had a valid birth certificate) would have no reason whatsoever to obtain a Certification of Live Birth.

Obama has a COLB precisely because he was NOT born in Hawaii. He was born in Kenya and is an illegal alien. Truth is stranger than fiction!

Israel, not an important issue
Herb,

You keep repeating ad nauseum that Iran wants to wipe Israel off the map. Amhamadinejad stated that the Israeli regime will disappear with the pages of time . That is very different. The USSR did just that. Now with respect to the Israelis being shocked at the stance of the Administration : really, UN Resolution 242 has required them for over 40 years to give back the lands they acquired thru force in 1967.
Herb , in general why do you not write about the illegal immigraion problem we are facing ? Why do you not concern yourself with the destructive immigration policy which has been in efect since 1965 ? Congress just passed a hate speech bill which would infringe on our freedom of speech . These are "the issues" which are important to our way of life, not Israel and the Palestinians.

2 State Solution...Hah
I do not believe the 2 state solution will ever work. The Palestinians will never be staisfied until the Jews are removed and Israel is destroyed.

The only real solution is:

A) Dissolve Israel and migrate the Jews to another country.
B) Dissolve Palestine and integrate them into Israel.
C) Annihilate either all of the Palestinians or all of the Israeli Jews.

Of course the big argument is really over Jerusalem so if we nuked that, and turned it into a neon parking lot it, would go a long way to calming the hostilities (at least the Israeli vs Palestinian ones).


Go Nuke-less
The only real way to stop global nuclear proliferation is to declare unilateral denuclearization and use military force and diplomatic coercion to remove everyone elses nukes. Once we have de-nuked (or at least begun the process) we could start with the upstart countries like N. Korea and Iran then move to the lesser established ones like Pakistan and India. All the while putting diplomatic pressure on our allies to follow suit. Our rationale would be "if we don't have nukes anyone with nukes is an immediate and persistant threat to our national security and therefor we have every right to force them to remove their nuclear weapons or be subject to the forceable removal of those weapons by our military".

David #38

Of course we have a moral obligation to support Israel, and it is certainly in our national interest to do so.

In Genesis 12:3 God is speaking to Abram:

"I will bless those who bless you,
and whoever curses you I will curse;"

There are many other verses in the Bible where God pronounes His unquestionable love for Israel. No matter what BO does or says, I will never be against Israel, EVER.

As Jimmy Stewart put it in "It's a Wonderful Life" BO is "...in the big scheme of things, nothing more than a scurvy little spider..."

Assorted Responses
For LouLouise @ 2009/04/11 22:02

You remember how SeeBS was called out in 2004 when it attempted to use forged memos about Jorge Bush Jr.'s National Guard service record? Analogous problem with the COLB posted for Oblunder (in 1961, it would have been hand-written or maybe typed with courier font and would bear an inked seal/stamp--the one posted has ARIAL fonts, which no 1961 typewriter would be able to duplicate). Also a question (admittedly way off topic): would a NATURALISED US citizen without a birth cert be issued a COLB?


Not Of This World 2009/05/11 20:17:

I'll flashback you to 2009/02/21, when Oblunder indicated (through Gates) at Krakow NATO summit how he would handle Taliban and other issues. His statement then about Afghanistan was that he would accept "Swat-style truce deal" with Taliban--read "reinstate Taliban, who Jorge Bush Jr shoved out of power, as Kabul regime and abandon Karzai to 'mercies' (absolutely lacking, as they were created under the aegis of an unremorseful warcriminal) thereof".

You Misunderstand
Quote: "How do you intend to use military force to remove other countries nukes, AFTER you have already removed ours. They will just nuke our troops."

1) We have the far strike conventional capabilities to take out nuclear facilities before they launch AND the ability to strike down missles after they launch.

2) I never suggested invading the countries...no troops to nuke...we either use air strikes or covert operations. Neither option is especially susceptable to nuclear strikes.

3) The biggest misconception is that because I call for nuclear disarmament I am calling for a draw down of the military. Quite the opposite...if we actually de-nuked we would need a much stronger conventional military and a more robust intelligence and covert operations service.

Extend Our Nuclear Umbrella
over Israel when all it will take is one bomb from Iran? I can see why the Israelis might not be too terribly reassured.

Anne......Joseph(IL)
Anne- people are winking at each other when they use the word christian attached to Obozo
are they not?

Joseph-- you are kidding when you say Israel is not important? What have you been drinking or eating? Been to a Dr. lately?

Why do I get ired when I see Jimmmmmmy Carter
and the word Iran mentioned together?
Elvis

Hit 1st and Hit Hard
Quote: "Do you REALLY think that if we disarm, we will be left alone by our enemies? What happens to the child in the schoolyard that tries to avoid the bully? He is hunted down, and beaten worse. We must stand up to those that would take away our lives, and our liberties. We can only do so if we are prepared to back it up."

Exactly my point. As long as we hold onto Nukes we sit here and wait for the inevitable strike. If we de-Nuked we could assert ourselves and force these tird rate countries to give up their weapons (by coercion or force). Getting rid of the Nukes does not mean getting rid of our conventional or covert forces...to the contrary it would mean increasing their strength to combat all the budding nuclear powers. How powerful a message would we send the world if we disarmed our nuclear arsenal then bombed Irans nuclear ambitions into the stone age?

Quote: "In Special Forces, we like to sneak up on the enemy, and kill him on his own territory. If fight on the Islamics territory, we are winning. If we are fighting on our own territory, we are more than halfway to losing."

As a former Special Forces soldier (18D) I'm fairly familiar with the tactics. Sitting on you Nuclear Arsenal waiting for them to strike 1st (since we would never launch the 1st Nuke...right?) is a losing strategy. I say get rid of the Nukes and take the fight to them. Hit 1st and Hit Hard!

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