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Saturday, July 21, 2007
Henry  Edmondson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Educating the Educators
by Henry Edmondson
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Last April I was in Chicago for a political science conference. I found our own conference fairly routine and was more intrigued with the education research conference going on down the street where more that 12,000 education scholars met at the American Education Research Association meeting. That event was covered well by Frederick Hess of the American Enterprise Institute in the National Review Online a while back, where he noted just how nutty and irrelevant much of their activity has become.

He wrote, “ . . . [T]hose policymakers interested in Creolist perspectives on social change, the hegemony of standard English, and the current status of the Whig party, doubtless flocked to the session featuring the research ‘Beyond the Anglicist and the Creolist Debate and Toward Social Change,’ ‘The Ebonics Phenomenon, Language Planning, and the Hegemony of Standard English,’ and ‘The Whig Party Don't Exist in My Hood: Knowledge, Reality, and Education in the Hip-Hop Nation.’”

Now that should raise test scores, don’t you think?

Other notable presentation included ‘“Identity, Positioning, Knowledge, and Rhetoric in the Pedagogical Practices of Elderly African-American Bridge Players’ and ‘Everyday Pedagogies in Basketball, Track, and Dominoes: Culture, Identity, and Opportunities for Competence.’”

Perhaps I should not mock. Who cares if these academics have their fun? None of this matters in the real world, does it?

In some disciplines, like my own, or say, in sociology, there may be little cause to worry as such academic escapades have little chance of filtering down into the real world. But education is different, because, by some kind of perverse logic, this stuff does indeed make it into your daughter’s fourth grade class. That’s the important difference with wacky research in education; people actually try to implement it.

I am reminded of the Chicago conference—and of education research in general—because I just got back from the beach.

A number of my relatives, you see, are public school teachers and I look forward to these family gatherings to catch up on what kind of nonsense is going on at the street level of public education.

I wasn’t disappointed this time around.

It seems that at the school where one of my relatives teaches, administrators, emboldened by “consultants,” are implementing a new “4.0 grading system.” Parents are casually told that it is “kind of like the college 4.0 grading system” which corresponds, of course, to the traditional range range from “A” to “F.”

But wait a minute. Those parents who ask the right questions discover that it is precisely designations like “A,” “B” and “F” that have been messing up our kids’ education because such marks promote “competition” and thus cripple self-esteem—or so the zealous promoters of this brave new grading system tell us. And so, this time around,1.0, 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 means something entirely different: The marks are tenuously tethered to the teacher’s assessment of the pupil’s progress, and whether little Johnny is adequately meeting various interesting but fairly subjective criteria.

Not surprisingly, my relative tells me it is the parents who are up in arms over the new system as they rightly fear that they will no longer be able to assess their child’s progress with any accuracy or confidence. These parents will also undoubtedly discover a few years down the road that the colleges to which their kids apply will put even more weight on their children’s SAT or ACT scores since they will be unable to make heads or tails of the new 4.0 system.

As we gathered around the grill (my niece’s husband is a competitive barbecue man), another relative described a seminar speaker who used Julie Andrews’ performance in the Sound of Music to explain what teaching is all about. Maria, the erstwhile nun, teaches by “doing”: she and the Von Trapp children ride bikes together, picnic together and sing together in the Alps. Accordingly they win the local music competition because “that is what teaching is all about!”

But, my relative complained, “I can’t sing and we can’t use bicycles in the classroom and the landscape in our district is flat as a pancake. Red Georgia clay lacks the inspirational quality of alpine Austria.” He further explained why the seminar—however interesting since everybody loves Maria—wasn’t practical. First, he pointed out what I already knew: he is not an entertainer. He can’t carry a tune in a bucket. (It’s a family curse on my wife’s side of the family. “Happy Birthday” sounds like a guttural achromatic funeral dirge.) Julie Andrews, by contrast, is an entertainer.

Secondly, Julie Andrews was working with extraordinary pupils, not average students. As far as classroom motivation goes, you can’t tell the average geometry student, “If you pay attention and learn what I’m teaching you, you will become an international movie star.”

Consequently, Julie Andrews Style Teaching wouldn’t work with the majority of teachers or students. But the movie sure makes for a great Saturday seminars and all the happy high school teachers went home humming “My Favorite Things.”

But such practical observations are often lost on educational enthusiasts who claim to have found the magic key to education, a discovery that has eluded so many others.

My brother-in-law the chemical engineer, always practical, demanded, “Why do they experiment like this?” I suggested it is because many careers are built on just this kind of experimentation, careers that range from the university research level down to the state and local administrative levels. New theories are good for tenure and promotion and a clever way for bureaucrats to stay in power.

It is, however, past time to adopt a healthy suspicion of experimentation in the classroom, whether those experiments are in the area of sex education, bilingual education, or “exciting new ways” to read and do math. Perhaps only in the context of modern American education could Alfie Kohn, an educational theorist, assert, “I am suspicious of the very word ‘discipline’—perhaps because of its proximity to ‘bondage.’’’ We proceed more carefully when training dogs. After all, a good Labrador Retriever is worth a lot of money.

American educators and administrators should adopt the medical profession motto, “First, do no harm.” Teachers, the real heroes and heroines in education, are frustrated to the point of tears at having to endure one ill-conceived change after another. Many programs packaged as “better ideas” constitute an impossible burden for instructors. Teachers can survive unruly and apathetic students, petulant parents, and insufficient funding. Even the best teachers, though, may not long endure the relentless “reforms” imposed upon them from above by their own professions and bureaucracies. It is a wonder that many teach at all; unfortunately, many of the best no longer do, having long ago been driven to despair.

Another frustrated elementary teacher observed of the recent changes imposed on his school: “The maddening thing is that in a few years, all these new requirements will be scrapped in favor of a whole new package of ‘better’ ideas.” The teaching profession is losing teachers, forcing schools to resort to extreme measures at times to keep a warm body in the classroom.

For the good of both students and teachers, the burden of proof should be on those who want to disrupt learning by introducing “fuzzy math,” “whole language,” “values clarification” and the like. Parents and teachers should not be in the position of having to constantly assume a defensive posture against an onslaught of “improvement.”

Experimentation has become the unquestioned norm in our classrooms. Many educrats feel something is wrong is they are not trying out a new theory on our hapless students.

Consequently, on the front lines, schools must grapple with fads frequently imposed by the educational bureaucrats to whom they are subordinate. Schools are regularly thrown into disorder by frequent redesigns of the curriculum based on the “latest research” and teachers spend all their energy trying to satisfy administrative dictates, rather than attending to the main business of teaching.

As I arrived in Chicago, a pleasant spring snow was fast turning into a messy, dangerous wind driven slush. In retrospect, the downturn in weather was not a bad metaphor for the ruinous experimentation promoted by the education conference just underway.

Unfortunately, stopping all of this nonsense will be as difficult as it would have been to stop the bad weather in Chicago.

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Henry T. Edmondson III is Professor of Public Administration and Political Science at the Georgia College and State University in Milledgeville, Georgia.

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Experimentation
I am a high school math and chemistry teacher. In my first year of teaching, I was pulled out of my classroom to attend workshops on writing. The entire district was going to implement the same writing standards in all core classes, 6th to 12th grade. Whether a student was in 7th grade science or 11th grade history, the system of assessing writing would be uniform. It actually wasn't a bad system. Some teachers still use it despite what I'm about to say next.

In the 8 years I've been teaching, we have changed the "system" we would be using THREE TIMES. So much for developing a standard that a student can expect for their entire secondary schooling!

Fads in Education
Remember the no walls in school classrooms fad? It was the cat's meow in the 70s. They found out it didn't work too well because the kids got distracted looking at other classes. Then, when high tech came to the classroom and video and smart board presentations with sound became prevalent, it was intolerable. Many schools spent millions putting walls in or tearing down the open schools and building new ones. NCLB is a fad, too. It suggests every student can pass standardized tests. Of course, this is nonsense, as some students will never learn certain subjects or topics.

Congress has actually legislated that by 2014 all students will pass standardized tests. Can you imagine the arrogance it took to vote for that law?

The Heritage Foundation has analyzed the effect of NCLB and found there is a race to the bottom in lowering cut scores on the state tests. Unchanged national tests show a reduction in performance, while state tests are showing an improvement. It is Wizard of Oz-"Don't look at that man behind the curtain!"

sad times
The veteran teachers know these fads will come and go. They will stick to their tried and true methods by hiding old reliable textbooks (that’s what I do) and playing the game for administrators. The newer faculty members never knew a better way and fall prey to every “new” approach.

shubi
I was a student in an open building. The district went ahead and built it even though other places were walling thiers up. The renovated school is still in use and the heating and cooling system is a $ mess!

Shaking things up every few years is where interested parties make their $. New buildings, new books, inservice presentations, etc. It doesn't matter if it works it just matters that there is $ to be made.

Standardized testing - more reasons
It's at the school level that who the movers and shakers are to be is determined early on. Who get the awards, who gets the scholarships, who gets the big push and who fits into the new world order seems to be planned based on analysis of the test results. I was recently informed:

"The clever PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) has a nasty little cultural survey of every test taker which asks each unsuspecting 8th grader about their parents, the "cultural" environment of their home like books and music, the size of their home, and other intrusive questions. It takes 45 minutes to complete. Remember--each test taker is identifiable. This makes it THE foundational global dossier project."

This was verified at the PISA website:
http://www.pisa.oecd.org/pages/0,2987,en_32252351_32235731_1_1_1_1_1,00.html
PISA 2003 country profiles
21-Dec-2006

"The PISA 2003 country profiles tool allows the user to obtain information for a country or set of countries on the performance of 15-year-olds (in mathematics, science, reading and problem solving), their family background and approaches to learning, as well as the way their schools are managed."



Acts
In the Book of Acts, in The Bible, the
stoics and Epicureans were described thusly: They spent all their time only to hear or tell some new thing. Any who have had to endure conferences described by the author of the above essay will attest to the accuracy of the apostle Paul. If you want a tour of the surreal, visit the website of most American Universities' English faculty and read about their "specialties." To quote "The Borg," "resistance is futile."
After reading The Book of Acts, may I suggest Romans 10:9-10?

PISA
We don't take this assessment. In what state are these being given?

Profblog
Amen!

Response to rtwgmomma
The PISA website is not specific as to the numbers tested in each country, only noting that students in 57 countries were tested in 2006. It refers searchers to websites pertinent to their own country.

In the US, this is http://www.nces.ed.gov/surveys/PISA/
Which schools are chosen for testing would be very important in understanding the test results.

http://www.nces.ed.gov/pubs2005/2005003.pdf
This report indicates that 5,340 students in 262 schools were ultimately chosen in the US.

This is not the only way personal information is gathered and kept. Just ask your child to tell you when the teacher is asking for personal information through journals, essays, questionnaires, sharing circles, etc. It doesn't happen often, but often enough.

By federal law parents must be notified once a year that they have access to the file kept on their child. However, material can be taken out of the files easily before a parent is shown the file. Personal files kept by teachers are exempt. Special ed children may have a third set file kept on them.

I have no problem with testing for quality. I just believe parents need to be extremely vigilent and ask many, many questions rather than turning their children over to the system.

Public Education seldom educates
When I was certified to teach (my youngest children were in high school) the course work was heavy on psychology and methods and VERY light on subject matter. To acquire the good general education I believed to be necessary to be able to teach, I would up switching to a physics major where the department head had assured me he would "sign-off" on any coursework I chose.
When I went to work in a public elementary school, BECAUSE I WAS COMPUTER LITERATE, the principal basically allowed me free reign. I taught in an "at-risk" school where parents were most often excluded from the classrooms. Most parents had less than 8th grade education, frequently far less.
I contacted parents, got them involved in the classroom (even a totally non-reading parent can listen to a child read aloud and then ask questions about the material) helped them get to PTA meetings, set up rules of behavior in and out of the classroom, taught table manners at lunch (other teachers were horrified that I chose to eat with my students) and taught students how to calculate what their grades would be based on a 100-pt. scale.
All subject matter was covered well below grade-level at the beginning of the year and above grade-level by the end of the year.
"New Math" and all other experiments of the type were covered ONLY after the students were familiar with the subject matter.
86% of my students increased their standardized test scores by multiple grade-levels over the other students in the grade-level over the years I spent in that school (15). [Even though other teachers laughed that my students weren't "A Honor Roll" as many in their classes were. -- I never "curved" a grade!]
I wound up leaving because the next principal was unwilling to go along with my teaching methods. My classes were too loud, too disorganized, etc. according to him. Never mind that it worked!

Government Education
It doesn't amaze me that the "educators" of this country have such ridiculous conventions. As Forrest Gump's momma says "Stupid is as stupid does".

What does amaze me is that a thinking parent would bother to expose their own children to such reverses in policy, empty-headed propiganda and out and out failed programs. There are many, many, many options open to parents, but of course that involves being tuned into your child, and activly working in their lives in order to produce an educated child.

No government test is ever going to gauge the intelligance of a child. What is seems to be exposing though is the incompetance of the system. Of course now they will raise taxes to improve a irrevicably broken system and subject a whole new generation to a lifetime of ignorance and poverty.

Shubi
What's sad is the Open Classroom concept is stil being tried in some states. Just because some asinine concept fails in one place doesn't mean it's dead forever. At some later date it's likely another School Superintendant somewhere will put their own spin on it and try it again.


Education in general...
Having just completed a thirty-five year career in public education, the last twenty as a Principal, I want to record a few observations:
- veteran teachers, having been through twenty or more years of "research-based" theory and pedagogy, are probably able to keep teaching children successfully in spite of the numerous changes that have come down the pike
- rookie teachers frequently come out of college woefully ill-prepared in general knowledge, having been fed, at the university level, so much of the "latest reasearch" and so little of what we formerly called a "liberal arts" curriculum...their knowledge of higher level mathematics, logic, science and the scientific method, as well as history and literature is virtually nonexistent
- students, in the urban setting in which I spent my career, have become less and less motivated by the desire to be educated and knowledgeable, preferring to bathe in "pop culture" and the dream of athletic or other entertainment success
- parents of these students, all too frequently poor students themselves, do not enocurage their kids to be successful in school, preferring to defend the most egregious conduct of their offspring and attack the teachers, principals and schools with allegations of racism or other deleterious behavior...a truly educated person is anathema to this outlook
- Superintendents come and go every five to ten years, bringing with them their pedagogical preferences, favorite researchers and research institutions and proceed to "stir the pot" in order to add a new bullet-point to their resume' and thus move on to a better job
- School Boards, formerly consisting of the "pillars of the community", all too often are made up of single-issue candidates who manage to obtain the endorsement of whichever political party holds sway in the area...it is said all politics is local, and School Boards are as local as it gets

Despite all of this, children are still being educated, sometimes in spite of themselves...as I said, veteran teachers know how to make it happen. Veteran Principals who have come up "through the ranks" of the school system and experienced success know what it takes to make it happen...what's more, they are willing to trust their teachers to make the day-to-day decisions necessary to do their jobs in the way they best know. Parents who have not sold out to pop-culture as the end product of living still want their kids to be successful, attend a good college and acquire an honorable profession. When home and school adopt this goal in common wonders still happen.

No one has mentioned
how often the powers that be in a district decide that the configuration of the K thourgh 12 housing will be changed either because of population changes or because some elite has decided that 8th graders should be housed with 7th and 6th because they are too immature to be housed with 9th graders or vice versa. Or mabe they will have a "house system" for middle schoolers that devides the students into houses because houses are more intimate and teachers can be closer to students if they follow them for three years. Currently, our district is looking at fewer periods per day at the high school because....I don't know.

Education has nothing ...
to do with education. It's about power and money. The Educational Industry is adjunct to the Ministry for Truth and operates propaganda and containment centers.

Sow difficult is that to see?

For the past 47 years
public education has been untethered from the fundamentals of effectively educating the students. In that span, teacher colleges and classrooms have been experiments and labratories for any fad or theory whose only criteria is that it be different from what has worked in the past.

The result of this chaos in our educational system is that the administrators, and educators of today are so far removed from what quality education is that, in my opinion, they can not teach effectively even if they want to, or have to, which they unfortunately don't.

Mr. Edmundson, I am glad
I went back and reviewed your TH column. It was excellent, as were many of the posts which followed.

I am grateful for all the veteran teachers and principals my children have had through the course of their school years; the ones who actually taught using hidden old textbooks and lesson plans which did not fit in with the latest fad (such as the teachers who refused to teach "new" (fuzzy)math!) and the principals who supported those same teachers. I am also profoundly grateful that one of my children was able to attend a superior charter middle school. If only he could have had this same school for high school. For anyone interested, I would recommend Mona Charen's book, "Do-Gooders: How Liberals Hurt Those They Claim to Help." I have not gotten to the chapter on education yet, although my husband just finished the book and said this topic is addressed beautifully.

make this easy.
it is psychologicaly healthy to let go. just let go. do not try to solve evertone's problems. do not play other people's hands at cards. do not proscribe what is best or worse for everyone. it is none of your business. the village is not a viable substitute for parents. just let go.

...... and make everty school a private school. vouchers for all and let go.

To Gabby
Once upon a time many years ago I determined that my getting a job teaching in the public school system would be of significant help to providing my own children with higher education---eg paying tuition bills. So I took the minimum hours of education courses in order to become state-certified to teach in a public senior high school in a field in which I held academic degrees. Education courses are famous for being dumb and in this they did not disappoint me. But it was in an education course that I learned one of the most important and basic facts of all time, and that is: the public schools belong to the public. ALL of the public.

What does this mean? It means that any student's parent, no matter whether psychotic or personality-disordered or alcoholic or drug-involved or possessed of no education at all beyond eighth grade, or totally illiterate, or whether just plain stupid, believes he or she (it's usually a she) is competent to dictate what the school shall do and that he or she knows more on every subject than anyone in the school could possibly know, and is always the best planner of a child's education. This idea is just as dumb as the education courses.

About a month ago there was a townhall thread that got around to the topic of homeschooling. On it, I mentioned that the PABBIS (Parents Against Bad Books in Schools) website begins with a long statement that shows many syntactic errors. In particular, I called attention to the fact that whoever wrote it seemed unfamiliar with the rule that a pronoun is supposed to agree in number and person with its antecedent noun. And a homeschooling parent immediately responded to me, "Who made up that rule and why should we follow it?".

Homeschooling in a nutshell.

I wish people would stop knocking the public schools, which are required to educate kids so awful that most of you don't even know they exist. I would truly like to see some of you critics survive in a class that meets the last hour of the day, say about the eighth period, when everyone is tired, and which has 36 pupils of whom 28 are boys (more boisterous) and 9 have police records, one is blind and one is deaf and two have a psychiatric diagnosis and two are newly-arrived in the USA and can't speak English, all of these requiring individualized lessons in addition to the lesson provided to the class at large.

I would then like to see the critic teach this class during 17 PA system interruptions, one race riot breaking out in the hall, one false fire alarm, four pupils arriving late with excuse, four more arriving late without excuse, and another four presenting urgent need to leave the room, requiring excuse. Note that each entrance and exit must be documented in writing because a school attendance record is a public document that must truthfully account for the whereabouts of each pupil at every moment of the hour. Let us also assume that three students will announce that their parents are taking them out of school for a week to go on vacation, and aforementioned parents request, right now, all classwork for the following week and also serve notice that separate tests must be made up for the students upon returning.

Insert into this mix the ideology of the six dozen (or more) adults who control these kids' lives: they want more homework, no homework, religious values, no mention of religion, ethnic diversity, ethnic conformity.

Now factor in the silly-sounding paradigms presented to classroom teachers by the education research establishment. But the reason people keep coming up with new approaches is that the old ones don't always work, and things keep changing. Creolist? Sounds as if some of the students may be Haitian: how best to work with this unfamiliar population? Elderly bridge-players? Sounds as if the system may also serve a seniors'program: remember, the schools belong to ALL of the public.

It is always easy to laugh at a specialist environment one isn't a part of. My husband is a scientist. Once when he returned from a conference I joked about one of the scheduled meetings there, The Mucopolysaccharide-Glycoprotein Group Social Hour.

I worked for ten years in a school with a faculty of over 100 so, with turnover, I probably worked with three or four hundred teachers. I can remember perhaps five who seemed somewhere between lazy and crazy, but the rest worked their ******* off and were worth far more than they were paid. And on behalf of those teachers who are related to the author of this article, I am sorry he used the occasion of a family party to collect the information for this townhall offering. They deserve better, and he owes them an apology.



Competition solves the nonsense problem
Experimentation is good, as long as there is some accountability in place. Right now crazy theories get tried and stacked upon one another without parents having a real say. Letting parents choose there school, i.e. a voucher system, would ensure that bad systems and ideas are held accountable and allow some crazy new ideas to have a shot.

to lily
the things you say, and the attitude you have is a perfect example why the government should never run a school. they are not your kids, they are not "our" kids. children are a family responsibility not the state's. you have no right to decide if a home is providing a good education or not. until a parent abuses or ebndangers a child the state and you hardworking do gooders has no right to intervene. if i had a child in your care and you exhibited that condescending attitude to me you would have one less kid. its nice that you think so much of yourself and co-workers. if you are so great, i am sure you would have no trouble in a private format, that is the one and only test of a good teacher. captive children make the assessment of education quality impossible. ending public schools is the only way children will be successful in a new economy that rewards the self employed. the idea that welfare workers, excuse me, government unionized teachers can prepare kids to enter private business is ludicrous on it face. we do not need enviromentalists, teachers, welfare workers etc. we need the next generation of business people. public schools are a certain failure in all important education.

Education Today
The "SMARTEST" students today are those who "DROPOUT".Why?Because smart people understand, "Waste of My Time", better than most.The schools of America are not for the "STUDENTS",but for adults who need "JOBS"!Modern Education,without Computer domination is an Abomination.I have a book,written by one of the leading "THINKERS" on Education, almost 50 years ago.In this book she outlines the future of Education.We have yet to reach that future!Why?When Education became a "BUSINESS" it changed it's focus and it's operations.New "IDEAS" are like new "PRODUCTS".If this one does not SELL,we try another.Yet,With so many obvious signs of failure,we continue this "CHARADE".Some people honestly think that their kids are "SMART",as result of attending certain schools.Then they find out that a child in India,with far less material,is far "SMARTER".The STUDENT with less is forced to be "CREATIVE",and must become the designer of his or her own Education.This is the assignment which must be given to each of America's Students,DROPOUT or NOT!It is my belief, that a true Professional seeks to eliminate the need for his/her existence.

How to do it...
If you look at the OECD ratings you find that on average American primary schools are near the top of the heap in OECD nations school systems, our middle schools are about average and our high schools are close to the bottom.

With that in mind, when my son came to live with me as a HS freshman after his mom gave up on him, I made sure that he spent no more than mornings in his highly rated local public high school. He took most of his challenging courses at the local community college where teachers only need to know their subject matter to teach. The really challenging courses he got via the Stanford gifted students distance learning program and from the local state university.

When I got him he was counting on his fingers and could barely compose a paragraph. Keep in mind that he'd spent elementary school in a Catholic parochial school and middle school in a highly rated private Lutheran middle school. The problems with American schools don't end with the public schools by any stretch of the imagination. The teachers manning K-12 schools, public or private, come from the same university departments of education. As best as I can see there is where the problems start.

By graduation he was accepted at UCal Santa Barbara. He is graduating in three years with a major in literature and minors in creative writing and Japanese. He's been recruited by Microsoft to do technical writing for them when he graduates next June. He's a pretty happy camper.

The lessons that I've taken away from the experience is for parents to really start sweating when their kids hit high school, because that is where public schools fail utterly. I also learned to shop course by course for what he would be taking. I also learned how to ignore, threaten and glare down high school teachers and counselors who were under the impression that longevity in position and union membership somehow turned them into little tin gods.




Educating Educators
Edmonson's article represents a kind of snide, lazy, and intelletually incurious type of thinking found among many academic critics of teacher education that is taken seriously because it does contain a number of important truths.

I can agree with the author that at the meetings of the American Educational Research Association one can find pages of bizarre, marginal, and risible research presentations. At same time, I have found counterparts at the American Historical Association, and I suspect that he has found some at the American Political Science Association as well. Yet there is an implication in the article that educational research is unnecessary -- that we already know all we need to know about educating young people, no matter how rapidly society in general and the children who come to our schools change; that the purposes of public schools and their place in society are fixed and not open to question; that anecdotal evidence from individual teachers -- I think that everybody has a brother-in-law who is a disgruntled teacher --, generalizing from their necessarily limited experience is all that is needed to dismiss any educational research.

The research is sound or it is not. A great deal of what passes today for research, in almost any discipline or area of study, is ideologically influenced to the point of deformity, generalizes beyond its data, and is subject to a variety procedural flaws that at one time might have been caught by responsible thesis supervisors. Yet we have standards and protocols by which to evaluate research, and Prof. Edmonson should know them; they do not include the tiresomeness of the paper's title (although I agree with Edmonson that such titles often signal tendentious and sloppy research).

Those commenters who call for a freer market in education may offer the best way forward. Those who have worked with, say, "whole language" or "fuzzy math" know that it works very well for some children and not others. Phonics approaches to reading can make a vital dfference for some students, work no better or worse than other approaches for many students, and prove limiting and dull for other students. All learners are not alike; individuals and families want and need different things from their schools. Even amongst homeschoolers, some families report success with what is an essentially "without walls" approach, while others advocate the rigid programmed learning approach of Accelerated Christian Education.

In short, the fact that many of us believe that the economy is far too complex and diverse to be managed by a command state does not mean that we dismiss the idea of continuing research by academic economists, even if we have strong doubts about the quality of some that research. In the same way, my 30+ years of experience at all levels of education suggests to me that there is no "right" way to teaching writing, mathematics, science, or any other subject to every child. If this is so, there is need for more and better educational research to assist parents and educators in their decision-making.

Twin's brother Twin
says"....there is no "right" way to teaching writing, mathematics, science, or any other subject to every child."

But we do know something about the "wrong" way to teach. Our experimentation with students inevidably injures those who can least afford it.

Jeanne Chall (seach her name to be enlightened) is a name we educators were never exposed to.

The top students are hard to mess up if they are from a normal family.(Don't make an arguement about what is normal. We all know it when we see it unless our bubble is a bit off center)

It is the middle level learners on down who pay the price for not sticking primarily to tried and true methods.

gc
You know a lot of things about your child that his or her teacher does not know. The teacher knows a lot of things about the interface between your child and material to be mastered that you do not know. Try to work with teachers rather than oppose them and defend against them. You do your child no good service by badmouthing his or her teachers at home. Telling your son or daughter that the teacher is incompetent or politically unacceptable or a racist or whatever teaches the child to make excuses and blame others, not really the mindset needed to go out into the adult world and succeed.

Remember too that yours is not the only child in the school system and some of the kids have learning needs vastly different from those of your child. If homeschooling has value, it would surely lie in that---that the learning can be individualized. Please remember that the teacher in a school is charged with individualizing every child's learning. I taught senior high school: that meant that I met 150 students each day (five classes of 30), and that's a whole lot of individualizing.

For everything you want the teacher to emphasize (or de-emphasize and never mention) there is another parent out there who wants the opposite of what you want. From kindergarten on up, one thing a kid learns in school is how to share and how to be part of a group. Sometimes parents need to learn this too. In my experience mothers (it's usually mothers) who have not themselves had to meet the challenges of higher education and the workplace have sometimes not learned this yet: they expect to call the shots at school just as they do at home.

Oh Lord!
gc: ROTFLMAO! I don't think that I've ever seen self-serving aphorisms packed quite that densely. That's quite a piece of work. :-D

To gc
I would like to return to something you wrote because I don't understand. Can you explain in more detail the future that you envision? Because it sounds as if you want everybody to be an entrepreneur in the business world. Am I understanding you correctly? Would you have no teachers, no college professors, no nurses, no doctors, no librarians, no horticulturists, no historians, no scientists, no journalists, no poets, no artists, no musicians, no actors, no priests or ministers or rabbis, no philosophers, no scholars?

You say that "in the new economy that rewards the self-employed...we do not need teachers...we need the next generation of business people". Is it wrong then, for a student with a musical gift to find himself, with guidance from his music teachers, heading for a career as violinist or cellist in a symphony orchestra?


State of Edcation
I am a teacher in a Catholic High School. Our students are generally well-motivated, disciplined and certainly a notch above the average. Ours is a college prep school, where all of the students are expected to go to college and do go to college. They are all drawn from counties with very high income levels, where plenty of money is available and spent for elementary and junior high education.

Yet it is appalling when you see the educational state of some of these students. They have not received "the basics".

They are very poor at writing and self-expression because they have never been taught grammar. Foreign language teachers complain that they have a hard time explaining Spanish, French, or Latin grammar because the girls were never taught English grammar. If you don't understand verbs, gerunds, and participles in English, how will you understand them in another language? Classroom discussions are diminished by a serious lack of English vocabulary and an inability to express moderately complex thoughts verbally. Parents of the students have told me that in junior high the students had something called "creative writing", in which grammar and spelling were not corrected for fear doing so would hurt their "creativity".

My job in high school is to teach students critical and analytical thinking. But their ability to do this will depend on their language skills, which should have been developed earlier in their education, but were not.

But not to worry! The one thing all the students have from elementary and junior high school is immense self-esteem. They all believe, and their parents also believe, that they are well-educated. They always were praised so much for the ability to do the most mundane and simple tasks. It is hard for many of them when reality sets in.
JoeyK

Homeschoolers in a nutshell
lilly wrote:

"About a month ago there was a townhall thread that got around to the topic of homeschooling. On it, I mentioned that the PABBIS (Parents Against Bad Books in Schools) website begins with a long statement that shows many syntactic errors. In particular, I called attention to the fact that whoever wrote it seemed unfamiliar with the rule that a pronoun is supposed to agree in number and person with its antecedent noun. And a homeschooling parent immediately responded to me, "Who made up that rule and why should we follow it?".

Homeschooling in a nutshell."


Wow. One homeschooler (likely an unschooler and not recognized by most homeschoolers, HSLDA, or many states as a homeschooler) makes a stupid statement like that and all 1-2 million of us are incompetent in spite of lots of hard data (standardized test scores, college entrance exams etc.) that indicate otherwise.

I'm not sure anyone with statistician credentials would consider one comment by one person at a book banning forum a representative sample of any general population. But then what would I know? I don't have a teaching certificate.


theory vs. reality
Have you noticed educators make arguments based on theory?

In theory degrees in education, teacher certification, and student teaching are what produce a quality education. Yet, there have been studies by people outside the homeschooling community that can find no correlation to validate these theories.

In theory, higher rates of tax dollars increases learning. No one can produce evidence to support this theory.

In theory, teachers who are paid the most will be best able to increase student test scores. Again, no hard data is available to back up this assumption.

In theory a quality public school will produce graduates that are prepared for college and the workplace. Well, we hear complaints from professors about these kids being ill prepared all the time. The increased number of graduates with good GPAs taking remedial courses indicates otherwise.

The same complaints come from employers.

With the education of children and billions in tax dollars at stake you would think measurable success would be a requirement before such theories become dogma. For some reason it hasn't been.








oops
It should have read "rates...increase learning."
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