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Monday, June 22, 2009
Harry R. Jackson, Jr. :: Townhall.com Columnist
The New Slavery Must Be Stopped
by Harry R. Jackson, Jr.
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For several years I (and others) have called the way in which immigrants both documented and undocumented – “the new slavery.” If you believe that politics as usual can die, the president’s statements about immigration at the Esperanza National Hispanic Prayer Breakfast and Conference last week were very encouraging.

President Obama declared that he is committed to a “comprehensive immigration overhaul.” The dilemma with this statement is that the word “comprehensive” often includes an amnesty provision for undocumented persons. The problem with blanket amnesty is that there is a wide variety of people within the huge immigrant community, ranging from criminals who scoff at our laws to dedicated family people. To date, a great number of pandering politicians want to avoid dealing with the complexity of the current situation by simply waving the magic wand of amnesty.

The president paid homage to all the right aspects of the problem. He said three important things:

1. U.S. borders must be strengthened to thwart illegal immigration.

2. Provisions must be made to deal with illegals.

3. Employers of undocumented workers are a huge part of the problem.

Specifically the president stated, “The American people believe in immigration, but they also believe that we can't tolerate a situation where people come to the United States in violation of the law, nor can we tolerate employers who exploit undocumented workers in order to drive down wages.”

Although there has been a resurgence of actual chattel slavery around the world, the phrase “the new slavery” has been reserved for the American problem of immigration. I coined this phrase nearly five years ago. The comparison with the African-American condition was a natural one because chattel slavery in the U.S. was based on economics. Further, slavery took years to resolve because the moral outrage around the issue was less demanding that the economic needs of the nation. While racism was used to justify this abomination, it took a civil war to ultimately free the slaves. Finally, the victims of American slavery could not free themselves.

In the American culture of our day, there is a very large economic component of the problem which is complicated by the fact that both parties would like to make political capital (namely the large Hispanic swing vote) by claiming credit for breaking the shackles of this huge problem.

The specifics of the president’s plan to deal with illegal aliens still seems a little sketchy to me. Simply allowing people “go to the back of the line,” sounds like amnesty. Yet the INS must own the fact that their slow administration is a part of the problem. I have known people that were deported days before their green card arrived because of they failed to adhere to conflicting rules coming from different branches of the same organization. Others have waited for up to seven years to resolve the problems with their status.

All the major aspects of the president’s plan Tony Perkins and I mentioned previously in our book Personal Faith, Public Policy. As I have already stated amnesty seems to be the major sticking point we have with his plan thus far. We must have people come out of the shadows for their own sakes. Yet there must be more to the plan than paying a fine, learning English, and getting to the back of the line. On the other hand, permanently deporting 12 million people seems impractical.

Let me share about two diverse chicken companies I wrote about a couple of years ago. Late in 2006, Swift & Co. (a meat processor) was raided in six states and 1,200 people were arrested on alleged identity theft and immigration violations. This raid sent a signal to large companies that they were not exempt from the law. Swift could no longer be a third world plant on American soil.

As much as I rejoice over the way companies like Swift were handled, smaller companies operating in smaller communities could have their survival threatened by hasty enforcement transitions. Let me give you an example. Labor Day weekend 2006, Crider Inc. based in Stillmore, GA lost nearly 700 of its mostly Hispanic 900-member work force. Originally, Crider’s processing lines were made up predominantly of African-Americans but gradually Latinos dominated the work force. Since the late 1990s, the Hispanic population has tripled in the state of Georgia.

After the Crider raid, the black community temporarily benefited from the new jobs which were made available. Crider experienced a crisis and needed 300 employees to return to normal output levels. Unfortunately, the company did not think through its transition. The company suddenly raised pay. Next, they sought replacement workers. Two hundred were hired through a state funded employment agency. The plant was ill-prepared for such a dramatic change of workers and black workers did not stick. The company experienced high employee turnover and threats of legal action from disgruntled new employees. The plant’s productivity dropped by nearly 50%.

In both cases I have cited, the positions opened by the raids were an invitation to be permanently added to the bottom rung of the American work force. In the future, even naturalized employees will want something to look forward to - a career path or a personal road to prosperity.

I think progress will be made if we tackle one issue at a time instead of bundling too many complex issues together. It seems to me that immigration reform has to become a priority - not an afterthought. Pat answers and blanket amnesty approaches simply muddy the waters. Therefore, I recommend we close the borders and start the long process of Americanizing American businesses so that free enterprise can truly work. You can read a more comprehensive review of our solutions to the immigration dilemma in Personal Faith, Public Policy.

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About The Author

Bishop Harry Jackson is chairman of the High Impact Leadership Coalition and senior pastor of Hope Christian Church in Beltsville, MD, and co-authored, Personal Faith, Public Policy [FrontLine; March 2008] with Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council.

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Imigration fiasco
You're right. Temporarily stop all immigration, get organized, do it right then slowwwwwly let a controlled immigration start up.

Look In The Mirror Mr. Jackson

So this you compare to slavery; but the oppression of homosexuals you do not.

Month after month you post articles on here doing everything you can to harrass homosexuals, control their personal lives through the force of the government, attempting to drive them into hiding; but if one of them made any comparison of their situation to the slavery of old, you would call them presumptuous laughingstocks.

Look in the mirror, Mr. Jackson.

ReadItYourself
"So this you compare to slavery; but the oppression of homosexuals you do not."
I can't speak for Mr. Jackson; but I see absolutely no correlation between slavery and public opinion on a group of degenerate, sexual perverts.

ReaditYourself- A degenerate
An admitted degenerate at that.

He posts in part:

"Smacks me of being the result of following one's personal agenda rather than that of the Lord Jesus Christ."

ReatitYourself aka Terrrence is a homosexual who tries to twist biblical verses to suit his homosexuality.

He is just not very good at it.

One man's degenerate
is another man's degenerate too.
The other man just isn't man enough to admit it.

Why Homosexuals attack the Bishop?

Bishop Jackson is being threatened, his family is being threatened, all because he has taken a stand against Homosexual Marriage.

Homosexuals under the influence of their 'Demons of Perversion', will NOT rest until they silence the Bishop.

After all, the 'Worship' of the male anus, is very important to male Homosexuals.

Most Human Beings regard the anal orifice as a bodily tool, for expelling flatulence and human waste.

Homosexual 'Men' regard the anal orifice, as 'Central' to their identity and the object of passion, adoration, sexual fulfillment and their reason for living.

Call the DHS
It only took two comments to find the nutjob to hijack the entire article about something completely unrelated. Good job, ReadItYourself, you almost set an Internet record.

Fellow Posters
Please don't let the homo derail this column.

The only similarities between homo’s and slavery is that some queers like bullwhips and getting beat.

The f a g is simply whining for attention and attempting to hijack the thread.

Homosexuals might be taken Seriously?

Homosexuals might be taken Seriously, if part of their lifestyle did NOT include the ingestion of 'Fecal Matter'.

The sexual activities engaged in by homosexuals inevitably lead to a whole range of viral and bacterial infections that can result in sterility, cancer, and death.

Sex among homosexual males typically includes: oral and anal sex; rimming (mouth-to-anus contact);fisting (insertion of the hand and arm into the rectum); golden showers (urination);insertion of objects such as bottles, flashlights, and even gerbils into the rectum; sadomasochism (beatings with whips, chains, etc.); and other practices.

These various behaviors cause trauma to the rectum, contribute to the spread of AIDS; increase incidences of oral and anal cancer; and result in serious infections due to the ingestion of fecal matter.

Bishop, Another "Type" of Slavery?

An indentured servant is a form of debt bondage worker.

Historically 'Indentured Servants' were required to work a specific number of years, usually (3 to 7), but the 'Hope' Obama brings with his 'Change', is that the 'Indentured Servants' will only serve from April 15 of one year to April 15 of the next.

The 'Indentured Servitude' class or 'Collective' that Barack Obama is creating, will only be a segment of the American Citizens, comprised of those who willingly work in an attempt to provide for themselves and their families - all others are exempt.

The children of the 'Indentured Servant Class' automatically inherit the 'Debt Bondage' of their parents.

Barack Obama hails this 'Indentured Collective' as Patriotic and a 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'.

This 'Collective' is quite similar to 'Share Cropping', where the worker is allowed to keep a small portion of their labor for personal use.

Barack Obama is NOW destroying the American farmer and food supply, by with holding water to 100,000 square miles of the most fertile land on Earth in California.

The control of the 'Food Supply' is necessary to Barack Obama, so that he can ration enough food for the 'Indentured Servants' to remain alive and work.

Those who are NOT in the 'Indentured Servant Collective' will become the owners and operators, of the 'Indentured Servitude Collective'.

This is but one small aspect of the 'Hope and Change' Barack Obama is bringing to America.

HR Jackson nails it on immigration!
no Amnesty PERIOD! The majority of Americans agree, we must begin by CLOSING THE BORDERS and then start the long process of Americanizing American businesses so that free enterprise can truly work. IMHO step #1 is to reform all welfare programs, able & don't work, no welfare, hiring illegal aliens must become a felony, end the automatic citizenship of foreign new born, reform the immigration system and the courts, no public funds for NGO's that recommend breaking US Laws!

Welfare is slavery.
1. Victims in both cases were prevented from achieving their potentials.
Both were kept from getting training in trades, etc.

2. Families in both cases were broken up.
Slave family members were sold to different places.
Welfare fathers were not allowed to live with their families.

3. In both cases, women were used for breeding by the people in power.
Slaves were bred to increase the owners’ stables.
Welfare workers received promotions for encouraging teenage girls to get pregnant and go on welfare, increasing the welfare roles.

4. Victims in both cases were prevented from being educated.
Slaves were prohibited by law from learning to read and write. Welfare children were discouraged from excelling in school so they could more easily go on welfare.

5. Many people were born into both.
Many people were born slaves, and many people were born into welfare.

6. Escape from both was very difficult.
Slaves had to escape or buy their freedom from willing owners.
Welfare recipients were totally cut off welfare if they wanted to start working their ways out of welfare.

7. Democrats opposed ending both of them.
In 1864, democrat candidate George McClellan planned to rescind the Emancipation Proclamation if elected. Democrats in Congress did not provide a single vote for welfare reform, and Clinton vetoed it twice.

8. In cases, only blacks were eligible for both.
In the Old South, mostly blacks were slaves.
Welfare workers refused welfare aid to abused white women.

9. Republicans ended both slavery and welfare as they had existed for decades.
Republicans ended slavery with the Emancipation Proclamation, and ended welfare as it was with the 1995 Welfare Reform Act.

Democrats are replacing black slavery with the slavery of illegal aliens who sneak into the country. All of these illegal aliens are criminals and some are terrorists.

Control
There are already immigration laws in place. THE problem is theres no enforcement. We could close the borders for 6mos-yr and actually deport violators and grant citizenship to some. These A-hole politicians want VOTES! Thats all they care about and we need to vote them out. This goes for REPUBLICANS as well as Dems.

Slavery Mentality
Some of my husband's family members were white "Indentured Servants, as the majority of these servants were white." This opportunity has given his family opportunities of the American dream of which we continue to enjoy today and our work ethics have been taught to our sons and daughter which is passing on to their children.
The thing is that they came into this country legally and were held accountable. With that said, true "Slavery Mentality" is rampant today in our society not only regarding immigration to which this article refers. People today want their "master," the government, to take care of them for a few hours daily in the work force. Even the 10th Commandment instructs us to "Not covet your neighbors wife, land, donkey, ox, or anything that belongs to him." (paraphrased) Even God does not believe in redistribution of wealth. "If a man does not work, he does not eat." (2
Thess 3:10). At least the Mexican's are willing to work--and if the American government is willing to give them every beni under the sun...? I am all for legal immigration and border security.

Slavery
Slavery is wrong. It is the elite taking advantage of the poor no matter their color. The previous poster nailed it on the head. Democrats voted against ending slavery, they voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act and they voted against welfare reform. Does that tell you that they are the problem not the solution?
Brother Jackson and I am proud to call you brother by the way even if I am a 52 year old white man, I am very thankful for black men that have the Holy Boldness to stand up for what it right! Thank you.
A WV hillbilly

odd column
The column starts with a claim about immigration as the new slavery, an explosive charge, but never actually bothers to justify the claim in any way. That seems just strange. People freely coming to this country for economic opportunities would seem to have little resemblance to slaves.

And while the criticism of Obama is that his plan is sketchy, the counter response is sketchier too. How does one stop illegal immigration? Obviously not by passing laws against such immigration since it is already illegal. To the degree that the slavery charge is apt it presumably is because illegal immigrants here wind up at the mercy of employers who can exploit them without recourse. But Jackson's sketchy suggetions would seem to increase that problem, not address it.

Illegal Slavery?
First off:
Slaves were brought here against their will and forced to work on plantations.
They were sold to plantation owner's.

That is definitly not the case for Mexican "illegal" immigrants!
The biggest and most important part of it is: employers are hiring them, knowing full well they can be utilized for inexpensive labor and making cash-cows out of their business because of it.
Punishment of the business owners' is a large part of the equation.

Next our Government is encouraging this behavior, by saying any children of these immigrants are automatically citizens, which gives them entitlements they have not contributed to nor, in my opinion, are "entitled too". The government in this country makes the legal citizens pay for any benefits they get and we would be prosecuted if we did not have those "contributary" monies deducted from our pay each week.

And what about this Spanish language business? Press one for Spanish...how dare big business and Government in this country impose "one preferred" language on the English speaking populous?
When you defy and intentionally break the law, that millions of "honest hard-working citizens" have to follow, you have no rights here, PERIOD! The taxpayers' in this country are paying for legal assistance, bi-lingual classes, housing, emergency room care, food stamps, border patrol, etc...to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars, compared to the rents and groceries they buy. Do the Math, PAL!


Ron, regarding the similarities between
welfare and slavery, I see your point, but I disagree with you. To me, the slaves in this society are the people who go to work every day and end up having a large portion of their earnings confiscated by the U. S. Government in order to pay for the votes of those on welfare.

Readityourself, while I don't see your point at all, I want to apologize to you on behalf of those who were so mean-spirited in their responses to your post. You are a child of God, and God loves you. But you are a disobedient child of God. May the Holy Spirit help you to see the error of your ways; help you to repent; and give you a new mind in Christ.

next insidious step---> scamnesty

Watch the ObaMessiah press soon for scamnesty using the hackneyed, disingenuous line, "bringing people out of the shadows" -- that is like treating the heart patient with an injection of cancer cells so he won't die of heart failure!

The left KNOWS that ILLEGALS will vote 95% for big entitlement guvment, which explains why the ObaMessiah has stopped construction of the border fence, which was well under way-- and working. Another ACORN to harvest.

HOWEVER, the fight is NOT YET lost!!!
We stopped Kennedy-McCain Scamnesty, then killed the disingenuous "Dream Act," a liberal gambit to give ILLEGALS a free community college education and thence a path to citizenship.

Join the fight, Middle America to save YOUR COUNTRY-- while we still have a little time!!!!!!!!

The BEST group to assist you is Numbers USA... several senators agreed that they were the group most responsible for stanching Kennedy-McCain Scamnesty:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

They have targeted e-mails and messages for Congress, OR you can contact Congress directly at the OFFICIAL contact sites right here:

http://www.congressmerge.com/

BOOKMARK it, and rattle those cages in Congress often! Save YOUR country before it is too late! The left is resurrecting the Dream Act -- we need to kill it AGAIN.

* Urge your Congressman to co-sponsor and support:

1) Rep. Shuler's bi-partisan SAVE Act that makes E-Verify mandatory nationwide

2) Rep. Blackburn's CLEAR Act that strengthens local enforcement

3) Rep. Goodlatte's SAFE Act that ends the Visa Lottery

4) Rep. Gingrey's Nuclear Family Priority Act that ends Chain Migration

5) Rep. Deal's bill to reform Birthright Citizenship.

how ILLEGAL aliens see things

Below was a recent post here about how ILLEGAL aliens view their incursion into America, which has been aided and abetted by open border NAU quislings like Presidente Jorge Bush, Amnesty John McCain and the Chamber lobbies-- and by the big entitlement guvment voter-seeking left like the ObaMessiah:

(slight editing below for clarity)

**********************************************
(post from a Mexifornia resident)

My Take-->

I have many Hispanic friends, and I speak enough Spanish to understand practically all of what I hear. This is what I have found:

Mexicans truly believe that California and much of the U.S. western states were wrongly taken from Mexico. This is THEIR land-- their ancestors were here first, and some can trace their ancestry back to before their land was taken away. Hence, the Reconquista (re-taking, or re-conquering) agenda.

Mexican ILLEGALS truly believe that the U.S. liberals stupidly passed the laws that give them all the freebies: free health care, zero will to enforce immigration laws (cannot ask a Hispanic person for immigration status), and others... and all those laws are there for them. If not for them, then why were they passed?!

The also know that their rate of having children is far greater than that of Anglos. They understand that it is only a matter of time before they become the majority of the voting populace because they are willing to have children.

Broken Immigration
The most broken thing about immigration is a quota system that dictates we can accept no more immigrants from Mexico than we can from any other country, Belgium, for example. As a result there are far more Mexicans who wish to immigrate than will ever be allowed the chance under current law. At the time, some lawmakers were pretty open about the reason they set the system up this way was to keep Mexicans out.

Mexico is our neighbor. There's nothing wrong with raising the quota for them.

And we're going to need them soon enough as the Boomers and much of our tax base retires. We already rely on immigration to keep our population from diminishing, we will need a lot more legal immigrants to keep up with tax and labor demands.

amnesty means 100 million new takers

One often hears about how hard-working ILLEGAL aliens are, which seems true on the surface.

BUT does that mean that ON BALANCE they are net contributors?

The answer according to Heritage is just the opposite-- they become HUGE NET USERS of resources. This has to do with 2 key things-- (1) ILLEGALS generally come here poor and typically ignorant (6th grade education), AND (2) America is a MUCH different place than it was 100 years ago.

Today America is an advanced service economy. What that means is that the ignorant indigent CANNOT come here and expect upward mobility. Instead, the typical poor family will devour $1.4 MILLION more in services than it EVER pays in any form of taxes over a lifetime. Worse still, there are myriad social pathologies which go with ILLEGAL aliens.

Amnesty for 12 million, as now proposed AGAIN in Congress, would mean 100 million new mainly indigent, ignorant over 20 years at a cost of $2.6 TRILLION, and myriad concomitant social pathologies (crimes, drugs, gangs, illegitimacy's, barrio blight, bilingual dysfunction, welfare fraud, school enervation).

See what YOU can do at my post just below to save America-- while we still have a LITTLE time!

Scholarly research and analysis:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/SR14es.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1490.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm2451.cfm

a worthy reprised post
(slight edit)

D Fayette

Location: TX

Date: Apr 17, 2009 - 9:18 AM EST

ILLEGAL means they broke the law-- PERIOD!
American family values: Don't break the law!
Don't cut in line! That is just to mention a few family values that the ILLEGAL aliens have violated.

If they had the resources to get here ILLEGALLY, they certainly should have the resources to get back home LEGALLY.

If the ILLEGAL immigrants are an economic asset to the USA for whatever reason, then they are a VERY valuable asset in their native countries.

Let's not be selfish-- send them back to their native countries to improve the economic status there. That way we would have even less ILLEGAL immigration. By allowing these people to stay, we are exploiting all the third world countries from which the ILLEGAL immigrants came.

Their children born here should NOT be recognized as being U.S. citizens if both parents were here ILLEGALLY. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Once again, the family values issue is just another reason they should be required to return home. We, as a nation, should not be selfish in that regard.

Could it be, because of their ILLEGAL status, they are more likely to stay together, because their options are more limited?

A woman is more likely to stay with a husband if she feels she can't find an adequate job to support her children. Just by being an ILLEGAL alien opportunity is limited. Did the study address what the numbers might be if both parents were legal immigrants. I can see a logical reason to say the study is flawed.

There is no real reason, except for political gain to support an amnesty policy. Politicians compromising the law, and law enforcement, for their own political gain.

border crashing one of MANY offenses

Speaking of ILLEGAL aliens, border crashing is just the first affront, usually followed by felonies including S.S. and identity fraud, sometimes identity theft, and preying on social services... not to mention the concomitant social pathologies which follow them like Pigpen's dust cloud--> crimes, drugs, gangs, illegitimacy's, dropouts, barrio blight, sub-prime mortgage defaults/foreclosures, school decimation, hospital closures.

ILLEGALS actually find our catering to them with social services not only surprisingly (and foolishly) welcoming, but irresistibly appealing-- like bugs drawn to a streetlight.

To speak of amnesty for such ILLEGAL ilk is akin to welcoming to dinner the armed robber who broke into your home, dismissing him as being simply an uninvited guest.

How much do ILLEGAL aliens cost us?


Notwithstanding fatuous claims that America truly benefits from the labor of ILLEGAL aliens (actually, only a comparative handful of miscreant employers do), there are myriad and snowballing direct costs of ILLEGAL aliens to contemplate...

1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to ILLEGAL aliens each year by state governments.
http://tinyurl.com/zob77

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for ILLEGAL aliens.

http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for ILLEGAL aliens.

http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here ILLEGALLY

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of ILLEGAL aliens, known as anchor babies.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate ILLEGAL aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are ILLEGAL aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.htmlG ALS

How much do ILLEGALS cost us? (Part. II)

(stunning inconvenient truths)

8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on ILLEGAL aliens for welfare & social services by American taxpayers.

http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html

9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by ILLEGAL aliens.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html

10. ILLEGAL aliens in the United States have a crime rate that is 2.5 times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to create a huge additional crime problem in the U.S.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html

11. During the year of 2005 there were millions of ILLEGAL aliens that crossed our southern border including as many as 19,500 ILLEGAL aliens from terrorist countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroin and marijuana, crossed into the U.S. from the Southern border.

Source--> Homeland Security Report...
http://tinyurl.com/t9sht

12. The National Policy Institute estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period.

http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf

13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin.

http://www.rense.co m/general75/niht.htm

14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States."

http://www.drdsk.com/articles.html

Does it STILL sound like "cheap" labor to you?

The Conspiracy of Evil


The biggest challenge to stopping ILLEGAL aliens is that the money and organization (hence power) is mainly on the pro-ILLEGAL side.

The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely, strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to USE them in different ways--> the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers obviously simply want to exploit their labor-- never mind the myriad, egregious socio-economic problems they foist on America... hence, their all-in costs to society are immense and snowballing. Furthermore, the "savings" to miscreant employers are pocketed by them --> your hotel room or head of lettuce is NO cheaper to YOU.

The PC left wants to get ILLEGALS voting and seize permanent control for leftist "elites" via yet more inexorable big entitlement government... power flows to statist 'Crats/the left when YOUR tax $ flows to Washington. Try to find a liberal who does not really favor scamnesty, while feigning talk about enforcement first.

The scandal-plagued Catholic Church needs replacement bodies for the pews; and ILLEGALS can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico... the Church still has mega-millions to pay out for priest perversion (after deciding to forgive each priest one act of perversion-- Jesus!):

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/15/local/me-priests15

Ethnocentric Hispanic groups really do want an effective Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism and one world, NWO kumbaya.

http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mexico_immigration/2007/09 /28/36496.html?s=al&promo_code=3A98-1
http://www.libertygunrights.com/NAUFactSheet.pdf

Finally, the remote elites, including the liberal MSM, do not see what all the fuss is about. Besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR children will not have to go to schools enervated by "those people."

deportation is a false choice problem


A popular straw man challenge proffered by the left, lawbreaking employers, and ethnocentric Hispanic advocates is--> surely we cannot deport 12 million ILLEGAL aliens.

Actually, if the feds admit to 12 million, they KNOW that the REAL number is higher. In any case, we can get most of them to repatriate attritively simply by having the will to enforce EXISTING laws.

First, body slam the crooked pols who cater to them.

Second, insist that EXISTING laws be enforced: build the wall, crack down on employers, and stop the freebies to ILLEGALS, including tuition. No jobs, no freebies --> NO STAY!

Require proof of citizenship to function PERIOD-- citizens prove who we are CONSTANTLY for employment, travel, etc. Expired visas will not cut it! The possible threat of terrorism is yet another reason to require proof of a right to be residing in America.

No papers? Then NO job, NO apartment, NO drivers licenses, NO social services.

As Az. has done, kill bilingual education-- learn or return!

Revamp LEGAL immigration to emphasize education and skill sets-- just as responsible countries do.

NO PATHS TO CITIZENSHIP FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS-- PERIOD! Let them go back and start from scratch-- most would not qualify to return!

Reinterpret the 14th as intended; just as children of diplomats born here are not citizens, ILLEGAL madres should not be able to push out excuses for family welfare.

A nation which loses its borders and sovereignty ceases to be a nation. America is too special to lose to an invasion of the willfully culturally disparate and ignorant indigent. We CANNOT be the welfare state for Latin America's socio-economic failures and plutocratic governments.

Stolen land
oracle1:

Even if that were the case, they are not entitled to the development of this land, nor the services that hard-working taxpayers paid for here.

How about this: we tax them on the land value, without improvements...knock down and relocate all of the "legal citizens" (ridiculous I know), let them pay to rebuild, develop, and say give them California, after all debts are settled...deed it to the Mexican Government and "our budget problems in California are solved".

No Unemployment if NOT for Illegals

10,990,635 Skilled American jobs taken by Illegal Immigrants.

There are currently nearly 5.75 million Americans now unemployed and receiving benefits.

There would be NO unemployment if it wasn't for Illegal Immigrants.

When you cannot buy groceries or pay your bills, because you are out of work, call and thank President Obama and your elected officials.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

22,085,128 Illegal Immigrants in the United States.

4,661,406 Children of Illegal Immigrants in Public Schools.

$27,449,034,179 Money wired to Mexico by Illegal Immigrants since 2006.

$249,206,522,171 Money wired to South America by Illegal Immigrants since 1996.

$397,451,791,213 Costs of Social Sevices for Illegal Immigrants since 1996.

390,081 Illegal Immigrants Incarcerated in United States.

706,673 Illegal Immigrants sought by Law Enforcement in the United States.

http://www.immigrationcounters.com/

Solution to 12 Murders PER DAY

Solution to 12 Murders PER DAY in America.

Deport ALL Illegal Aliens.

Solution to unemployment in America.

Deport ALL Illegal Aliens.

Solution to Banking Crisis.


These banks specialized in giving 'Illegal Aliens' credit cards and home loans.

Bank of America

Wachovia

Wells Fargo

Citigroup

J.P. Morgan Chase

Liberty Financial

Mortgage Guarantee Insurance Corp.

Plaza Bank


Barack Obama has given 'A Huge Share' of the bailout money to subsidize these banks or for another bank to salvage them.

American Taxpayers are paying for the costs accrued for 'Illegal Aliens' to cover their credit card losses and save the 'Illegal Aliens' from losing their homes.

tired of the blather
about the expense of deporting the illegals. the figures quoted are just lies. they paid to get here, they can pay to leave. i am tired of the blather about how much we "need" the illegals to do the jobs citizens "wont do". absolute horse manure. we have no shortage of workers, what we have is a severe shortage of people willing to work. if the government would stop paying people to not work, we would have all the workers we need. tired of the blather about how difficult it is to stop illegal immigration. our ever larcenous government aggressively taxes legal citizens, but gives the illegals and their criminal co-conspirators a pass. exact a million dollar fine for each illegal hired, exact a billion dollar fine for each "sanctuary city", take away the tax exempt status of churches that encourage illegal immigration, and incarcerate all officials that refuse to enforce our immigration laws, as well as all politicians who encourage illegal immigration, and we would not have an immigration problem at all.

Deporting Illegals
Jackson says deporting 12 million illegals "seems impractical." WRONG-WRONG-WRONG In fact, that is a big dose of liberal kool-aid!

Eliminate -or at least curtail- the "bait" that brings in the illegals (FREE health care, FREE welfare, SS and other benefits to which they never contributed, and tax-free jobs), and they will self-deport. AZ & OK PROVED IT! AZ & OK passed laws denying access to social programs & jobs - employers who hired illegals were assigned heavy penalties - without proof of citizenship, and the illegals deported themselves. So many returned to Mexico that Mexican state governors asked AZ to ease up because they could not handle needs of so many Mexicans.

Huge numbers deported themselves from OK & AZ to other states (incl TX) with less strenuous laws.

No one, no law, no enforcement agency arrested and deported all those illegals. When the "candy" was taken away, the illegals removed themselves.

Pretty simple solution to a complex problem. Oh, and it also solved several other problems for Americans - jobs became available, drain on American and local infrastructures was reduced tremendously.

Retired Geek - No Unemployment
You got that right - no job, no food, thank Obama. In reality, a large # of those who have lost jobs voted for BHO (esp. UAW members), so they are getting what they asked for.

If you were so stupid you couldn't understand or so ignorant that you ignored what BHO "promised" that you voted for him, I have absolutely no sympathy for you when you lose your job and eventually become homeless. TS!! You wanted him! You got him! So quit whining.

Dean, you are half right
Immigration is broken with quotas based on country of origin. It should be based on skills needed in the US, period!!

We won't have to deport anyone if we enforce the law and punish the companies that hire illegals. They will leave on their own as there are no jobs available. We do need to reform our legal immigration process for those with the skills needed.

Once only legal residents of the US have jobs, the wages will necessarily go up as the employer can no longer threaten any complaining workers with deportation. That will have positive and negative effects on our economy. I am willing to bet that the positive will outweigh the negative.

Geek you're a disgusting pig
You're obsession with the 'anus' is filthy and disgusting and doesn't belong here. This is the second columnist's site you've cut and pasted your nauseating description of male gay sex, AND I've seen you post it in the past. If you're obsessed with gay sex fine, but others don't have to be assaulted with it. And while you're at it -- stop stating your opinions as if it were factual information -- you have absolutely no first-hand information about Obama or anyone on his staff, and yet you state to know his personal background, how his mother treated him, what he thinks about issues, and you claim to know what he is thinking at any given time. All ridiculous. It's fine if you have an opinion, but they're only your thoughts and unless you've met the man, or indulged in gay sex, you don't have a clue as to what is a fact -- it's just your warped imagination - so make sure you state them as from your imagination - don't pretend they are really true.

plenty of low-skilled workers
I think we already have more than enough low-skilled workers in the US... let's stop importing them!

The confluence of business wanting cheap labor, and liberals wanting more ignorant poor constituents is probably a greater risk to the US than terrorism, or dependence on foreign oil.

Rule # 1
With this president: Never, EVER believe what he says. In almost every case; he says one thing, and does the complete oposite; which the news will not call him out on.

Look at his action; dont listen to him reading.

I was wrong
Upon reading the title of this article I mistakenly thought that it would be about the enslavement of the productive members of society through higher and higher taxes. I was wrong.

No Mas!
"Dedicated family people" do not enter this country in violation of our immigration laws. You cannot make that claim without ignoring the initial illegal act! That's wrong!

"Provisions must be made to deal with illegals.


We do have "provisons" to deal with illegals. It's called the rule of law and if it were being enforced, we would not have this problem!

This is what happens when politians sell this country out in the name of political correctness and outright greed! The special interest groups have their hands so deep in the pockets of our politicians, that uniform enforcement of the law is all but unlikely!

Instead, we get rhetoric such as "our immigration laws are broken" or "we need comprehensive immigration reform!"

Pure poppycock!

Instead of amnesty, let's do away with sanctuary cities,cut-off benefits to illegals, enforce our laws, come down hard on those who hire illegals, and secure the border!

If we implemented these measures, many illegals would self-deport out of necessity!


about tolerating ILLEGAL aliens
A couple of posters have suggested that immigration enforcement has obviously not worked, and/or suggested that we must "need" ILLEGALS here or they would not come.

As dave and others have noted, when ILLEGAL aliens see REAL enforcement as in Az and Ok., they leave!

Also, when the guvment makes raids on construction sites or meatpacking plants and bags ILLEGAL aliens, Americans return to refill the jobs PROMPTLY. We hae nearly 10% unemployment, and it is worst among the low-skilled that ILLEGALS displace from those jobs.

It is really Pavlovian-- show them that we REALLY intend to enforce existing laws and that the freebies will cease, and they WILL go home at THEIR expense-- JUST THE WAY THEY CAME!

We have simply been speaking with a forked tongue-- see my earlier posts, especially the "Conspiracy of Evil" for an explanation of our equivocal approach... those myopic few who PROFIT from ILLEGALS want them here, BUT the rest of us pay DEARLY for the few to profit.

ILLEGAL aliens are VERY expensive

...but the Glowbama and the Left plan to embrace them because they mean power to the Left... ACORN on steroids.

Los Angeles County Supervisor Michael D. Antonovich reported in October 2007: "Illegal immigration continues to have a devastating impact”. Public Safety, $220 million; Health Care, $400 million; Welfare, $440 million; Los Angeles County pays more than $1 billion annually.

The Heritage Foundation in 2007 found that low-wage immigrants in America caused a net fiscal deficit of $89.1 billion in 2004. Forty percent were ILLEGAL immigrants. The rest were granted amnesty in 1986.

Harvard economist Dr. George Borjas calculated that legal and ILLEGAL immigrants suppress wages by $200 billion per year.

Both ILLEGAL and legal immigrants are provided with taxpayer-supplied education, housing, welfare, and medical care. Now Obama is passing laws to give them more rights than natural born American citizens!

Instead of encouraging them to learn the nation's language and fully assimilate, their youngsters are taught in their native language and their ILLEGAL alien teachers are paid bonuses!

This problem is made worse by the divisive activities of radical Hispanic groups (La Raza, MEChA, LULAC, ADL, SPLC, et al.) financed by the Rockefeller, Carnegie, Mellon, and other mega communist foundations that want radical change. One change, supported by the ILLEGAL aliens, includes the reclaiming of the American southwest for Mexico.

America spends $231 Billion for teaching English, Anchor Babies, Incarceration and Social Services.

ILLEGAL aliens annual costs to American taxpayers: $200 Billion revenue lost by suppressed wages for ILLEGAL aliens plus $20 Billion for WIC, Food Stamps, Medicaid, Welfare and Free Lunches.

help stop the REAL threat to...

...America--> the ILLEGAL alien incursion

Even as Mexican drug cartels are spreading their virulent violence over here, and ILLEGAL alien labor continues pirating jobs that Americans will DEFINITELY do, and decimating American social services (schools, hospitals, anchor baby welfare), the ObaMessiah and the left have stopped construction of the border fence. Guess why?!

Because those are future big entitlement government 'Çrat voters crashing the border!

While America needs SOME educated, skilled LEGAL immigrant labor, the so-called "cheap" labor (the largely ignorant, indigent ILLEGAL aliens) are REALLY egregiously expensive all-in to America.

Your hotel room, produce and Tyson Chicken are no cheaper to YOU, but YOU get stuck with the tab for the myriad social services they will prey upon and the pandemic social pathologies (crimes, barrio blight, drugs, gangs, illegitimacy's, dropouts, cultural disparateness) they pervade like a scourge of locusts.

Get engaged, folks!!! Insist that Congress require E-verify and pass the SAVE Act. You can EASILY reach them at their official sites right here:

http://www.congressmerge.com/

BOOKMARK it and contact them OFTEN! They love hearing from you!

The SAVE Act was introduced by Democrat Heath Shuler... it merits your support:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/enforcement/workplace-ver ification.html
http://proprietornation.blogspot.com/2007/10/save-act-follo w-up.html
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/issues.html
http://www.house.gov/list/speech/ca50_bilbray/March_14_2008 _Washington_Times_Save_the_SAVE_Act.html

pay me now AND pay me later

Only Middle America's majority loses by our collective toleration of ILLEGAL aliens. The smaller numbers-- miscreant employers and ILLEGALS themselves-- are the ONLY beneficiaries.

Most tragic of all, while we pay for them now at GREAT socio-economic expense (social service decimation, suppressed wages and lost jobs, $ sent to Mexico, drugs, crimes and gangs, illegitimacy's, bilingual education further crippling already failing schools, identity and tax fraud), even that is just the tip of the iceberg.

As even a liberal demographer ruefully noted recently, future social welfare benefits for current ILLEGAL aliens will be "the mother of all entitlement programs." They typically arrive here poor and undereducated-- THAT is a CERTAIN formula for socio-economic disaster.

See my posts below which document the myriad costs of ILLEGALS, especially the Heritage statistics about how crippling another amnesty would be socio-economically-- $2.6 TRILLION in costs, and 100 MILLION new mostly poor, largely ignorant, and culturally disparate over 20 years after granting amnestia for another 12 million.

Obama, The Janus

He says that all people will get free health care, but he cannot.

He says that all those making under $95K will not pay taxes, but he lies.

He says that the US should not meddle in Iranian internal affairs, he is a moron and a young woman died buried alive.

He said that we should dialogue with North Korea, but they are ready to nuke Hawaii and Alaska.

He has begged communist China (which employes slave labor) for money, but was laughed at by the country.

He gave $150bn to the IMF, but Russia and Brazil have purchashed gold.

He won Vermont, but they now want to secede.

He said that Global Warning is a crisis, but Fat Al Gore is unable to explain why New Jersey froze in June.

Obama Lied And People DIED.

Great article!
Thoughtful, insightful, relevant, and poignant.
Close the borders, deport all illegals (those in and out of the penal systems), enforce the hiring laws and start over. 'Vacancy Pressure' will raise wages and increase opportunities...thus Americanizing American industry once again. We just need the will and leadership to do these things.

If we could make 2010
Just a referendum on dims - amnesty and Republicans - registration/visas/border close down and there would not be dim to be seen except in the NE, black caucus and left coast reps. Just make sure the voters know that any Democrat will vote with Oblaba on this or Rahm Capone will come visit. Add drilling when gas is $5 and the carbon tax has been on utilities for a while and it will be a slam dunk.

Americans want jobs
With the current unemployment situation, I doubt the excuse that "the illegals are doing the jobs Americans won't" will hold much water anymore. Over 6 million Americans are desperate for work and will pretty much take any thing available so they can at least get benefits for themselves and their families.

And what is Obama doing to address the unemployment in this country? NOTHING. Instead he is campaigning constantly for his policies that will be the financial ruin of this country.

Note to Obama: IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID!

Immigration
I think the American people deserve the right to know if Obama is truly an American born citizen!...We wouldn't even be having this conversation if people were honest about Obama's citizenship...His own grannie said he was born in Kenya!...He will be judged by God for his dishonesty, and so will Congress...I doubt very much that the American people will have those who fought and bled and gave their lives for America, die in vain! Too many have made the ultimate sacrifice to just let Obama take it all away and spit on their graves!! What an insult to the Patriots and soldiers of past and present of our land!
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