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Thursday, May 29, 2008
Gregg Jackson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Questions for McCain
by Gregg Jackson
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Senator McCain, as an across-the-board conservative, I plan to vote for you in November—unless a more authentically conservative ticket emerges or you choose a liberal running mate, such as Mitt Romney. You would be superior to a President Barack Obama in protecting and defending America and promoting free market reforms and limited government. Like many other conservatives across America, however, I have some significant concerns with some of your positions, which I hope you can clarify here on Townhall.com.

Abortion: Senator McCain, you have stated that you would like to see Roe v. Wade overturned and the issue of abortion returned to the states. If you consider abortion murder, why should individual states have a right to legalize it? How is your position that abortion is a "states' rights issue" any different from Stephen Douglas' position on slavery-that it too was a "states' rights issue?" Isn't the right to life guaranteed in the Declaration of Independence ("life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness") as well as our Constitution (under the 5th and 14th amendments)? You have stated that you believe individual states should determine the issue of abortion because of your belief in federalism. Doesn't our federalist system give the federal government the right to amend its own constitution? Is there ever a justification in your mind for amending our federal constitution that wouldn't violate the principle of federalism?

Marriage: You said of same-sex marriage: "I think that gay marriage should be allowed if there's a ceremony kind of thing, if you wanna call it that, I don't have any problem with that." Do you stand by that statement, as you have also stated that you personally oppose same-sex "marriage?" You don't offer a section on your website dedicated to this issue, which continues to make national headlines.

The California Supreme Court recently postulated that limiting marriage between one man and one woman was unconstitutional. Last week you appeared on the "Ellen DeGeneres Show" and didn't respond to Ellen's comment that she could "now legally get married." You have said that issues such as abortion and marriage should be decided via the voters of the individual states. Since the voters in California already voted to define marriage in 2000 (by 61%) as the legal union of one man and one woman, and since that voter approved statute has not changed and can't unless revoked by the people themselves, why did you not remind Ellen that "gay marriage" isn't legal in California because the courts' declaratory opinion, containing no court order, hasn't changed the current marriage statute which does not include any provision for members of the same sex to marry ? Why have you also not called on Governor Schwarzenegger to uphold his sworn oath to only enforce the current marriage statute in California since he has stated that he will "honor the court's decision and uphold its ruling" and authorize the issuance of marriage licences without a legally binding accompanying statute just as former Governor Mitt Romney did in Massachusetts? Why are you undermining California Supreme Court Justice Baxter's dissent, in which he forcefully and compellingly defended constitutional separation of powers, by lending credence to the lie that a court can grant to a legislature powers denied them by the constitution and overturn the people's definition of marriage? [v1] 

Illegal Immigration: You state on your campaign website that "our border must be secure" and that you "will secure the border." You voted "Yes" on the Secure Fence Act of 2006, requiring 700 miles of double layered fencing to be built on the U.S.-Mexican border. Only 13 miles has been built. If elected president, can you assure the American people that you will order the completion of the fence within the first year of your presidency? Also, will you support the immediate deportation of all illegal aliens in our federal prisons currently being subsidized by American taxpayers?

Global Warming: [v2] You recently stated that "time is short and the dangers [of climate change] are great" and have proposed a "cap and trade" system to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. What do you mean by climate change? Isn't the earth's climate always changing naturally? Do you mean global warming? And if so, how do you validate the potential threat of global warming when, according to the U.S. National Climate Data Center, there has been a slight cooling since 1998?

You have also proposed a 66% reduction of greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 (from 2005 levels of 5.8 billion metric tons). According to historical energy data, Americans last emitted that little an amount of CO2 in 1910 when, according to the Wall St. Journal's Steven Hayward, we had 92 million people and per capita income of about $6,000 in current dollars. The Census Bureau estimates that by 2050, we will have 420 million people, which means that per capita emissions would have to fall to about 2.5 tons per capita in order to meet the goals you have set (vs. 20 tons per capita today). How do you plan to accomplish this? 

The Heritage Foundation recently estimated that your proposed "cap and trade" plan, co-authored by Senator Joe Lieberman, would have enormous transaction and compliance costs. The additional tax on energy to businesses and consumers would result in a loss of $1.7 trillion to $4 trillion in GDP. Your bill would also impose tariffs on other countries, such as China and India, that don't reduce carbon emissions. Please explain your "market based" plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, which increases taxes and reduces GDP by 15% to 25%, and makes foreign imports more expensive for consumers.  How will an almost imperceptible impact on the earth's temperature (.14F per year decrease with perfect Kyoto compliance) benefit Americans? 

Social Security Reform: Senator McCain, you have always favored allowing workers to divert a portion of their Social Security payroll taxes to individual retirement accounts that would earn market rates. Now, you state on your website that you favor individual retirement accounts to supplement the full Social Security system. Why the change? Why should younger workers, who will never see any of the money they put into Social Security, continue to pay into the system?

American Sovereignty: In a speech before the World Affairs Council in Los Angeles, California, this March, you said:

"Relations with our southern neighbors must be governed by mutual respect, not by an imperial impulse or by anti-American demagoguery. The promise of North, Central, and South American life is too great for that. I believe the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South. Ours can be the first completely democratic hemisphere, where trade is free across all borders, where the rule of law and the power of free markets advance the security and prosperity of all."

What do you mean when you say that "the Americas can and must be the model for a new 21st century relationship between North and South?" What type of relationship do you propose? What does our "rule of law" have to do with citizens in Canada and Mexico? Millions of Americans are deeply concerned that our government is advancing a North American Union, similar to the European Union, to integrate the economies, labor, and security of Canada, Mexico, and the United States without the consent of "we the people." Can you promise the American people that, if elected president, you would never enter into an agreement with Canada or Mexico that would abrogate our sovereignty?

Energy: Senator McCain, energy is not listed on your campaign website "issues page." You have stated that we must develop and market alternative technologies, such as nuclear energy, to reduce carbon emissions and our dependence on foreign oil. What are your immediate strategies to reduce energy costs and our dependence on foreign oil (i.e. domestic oil and gas development, increased refining capacity, lower taxes, etc.)? The Department of Energy estimates that the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR) could produce about one million barrels of oil a day—a 20% increase in crude oil production over U.S. levels, which would likely bring prices at the pump down. In the single largest oil find in U.S. History, "The Bakken Oil Formation" in Montana and North Dakota offers, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, 4.3 billion barrels of immediately recoverable oil—with the potential of up to 500 billion barrels! Do you support efforts to bring these proven reserves on line to bring down energy costs and reduce our dependence on foreign oil? We have not built a new refinery in this country since 1976, which also contributes to high gas prices. What will you do to promote increased construction of new refineries in the United States?

In the coming months, prospective conservative voters and I look forward to your responses to questions on these important issues.

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getting nowhere fast...
InsightingTruth, you say that the strategy of picking the least harmful of two candidates has failed. Failed at what? If Democrats won 7 of the last 10 presidential elections instead of the other way around, would you describe that as "success?" Let's say democrats won every election from now until armageddon, but Republicans became more and more conservative, honing our ideas and our candidates until we all looked like Jefferson, but continually lost elections to people like Obama and Clinton. Would that represent success to you? Again, you seem to value this immaterial spiritual score card (being counted amoung the "real" patriots, your gravestone, your camaraderie with lone heroes slain fruitlessly in battle, etc) more than the actual outcome. The outcome matters to me more than the ethereal report card.
This election cycle is already past. We have failed to persuade a majority of voters that conservatism is best. Throwing your vote away, or not voting out of frustration with McCain, will maximize the damage. If Obama puts two or three liberal ACLU attorneys on the SCOTUS, putting up Buchanan in 2016 will be small comfort.
Finally, I am not projecting--I'm asking you to more precisely define the compromises you would make. What is the mystical line that John McCain has crossed? At some level, all politicians represent compromise, and the "best candidate available" *IS* "the lesser of two evils." Name an exception, and maybe we'd be getting somewhere. My contention is that if you hold unwaveringly to the "I'm a man of principle" mantra, you must either dismiss Churchill, Reagan, Jefferson, Lincoln--all of them, or claim that none of them lied, made concessions to their philosophical enemies to gain in another area, betrayed their families or their church, acquiesced to something they knew in their hearts to be wrong. This your logical choice-and both options are ridiculous.

Respondez s'il vous plait
As I read through the comments, I notice few that actually address Mr. Jackson's questions for Sen. McCain. I found his questions insightful and educational. I'm not getting that type of education from talk radio on the issues these days. Gregg Jackson takes Sen. McCain's most recent statements on global warming and asks tough questions that I don't hear others asking. All other nine questions require a reasoned response as well. I'll be looking for Sen. McCain's answers in the coming days.

reply to joyyyyy


Hi, Joy!

Yes; I'm ugly . . . Thank you. Look at my posts more calmly, Dear. I only referred to what OTHERS think regarding the "saints." Money is quite important to me, too. I won't hurt you for money. Maybe for Fun, --?

"LDS leaders, whether Bishops in Wards or Stake Presidents, etc. DO NOT GET PAID. They all have real life jobs and pay their own way." --They don't get money for their work; since money must be allocated carefully for the raising of monsterous white temples; and their community is drafted for the purpose.

"And just a tidbit: Mitt Romney declined to accept his salary as Governor." ---Oh my! Romney's a millionaire many times over, Joy. He also dropped his campaign quickly enough when his cash was being squandered by the gazillions with no win in sight. For which I commend him; he's no dope.

Two great horsemen from Utah won a Kentucky Derby in the 50's; with a fine horse named Swaps. They had a property in that colt worth MILLIONS, but wouldn't buy an insurance policy to cover him. Instead of buying tack for their horses, they made it themselve with hand-cut leather strips. And these folks were tremendoulsy wealthy! Later on they sold their ranch in Chino, CA and made more millions on that.
Maybe they were not characteristic of the "saints," just odd. By now, one or two of them is in a far away universe as God over his own creation. That's what their "prophets" revealed would happen, if they collected tons of money for the temple! They must've connected all the necessary dots and paid their way there. We hope.

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answering PC first:
You reacted like gangbusters about the Romney post in which I say:

When a fourth of the county's electorate thinks Mormons are crazy and nothing but money-grubbing skinflints who believe ungodly poppycock --the election, etc.

The money comment is negative, I realize. But they all work hard, I know that. They're VERY acquisitive as a people. Remember too, Mormons tithe 10% to the church. (A condition of their coming glory in some heavenly universe where THEY get to become GOD!)

In any case; I only referred to the NUMBERS of voters who do not care for a Mormon. Not to approve of their bias. Romney has to garner southern state's votes; where many Fundies absolutely detest Mormons. He would NOT help a Republican ticket at all in those crucial states where evangelicals and born agains live by the millions. That's just my opinion, of course.

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sorry about "bob barr kooks" subject...
Joyyyy, did anything else I said offend? you said I was offensive? Looking back on it, the subject line of my email was pretty silly.
I certainly respect your choice, but the cost/benefit of NOT voting for the lesser of two evils seems to come up way short. And I could not agree with you more about Mitt Romney. My original post was that he would assuage my disdain for McCain.

Dread - Money-grubbing skinflints?
With that comment you prove yourself to be one of the most ignorant people on the planet.

But thank you for again showing off your inner ugliness for all to see.

LDS leaders, whether Bishops in Wards or Stake Presidents, etc. DO NOT GET PAID. They all have real life jobs and pay their own way.

And just a tidbit: Mitt Romney declined to accept his salary as Governor.

Anyone interested in the truth can read about the 'money-grubbing skinflints' here: http://www.mormonwiki.com/Humanitarian_Efforts




part two of response to Jude, post #59
(cont. from post#75)

The question you must ask yourself, is do you want to help the scoundrels by voting for McCain, or Obama. Or do you want to be counted among those that actually enter the arena and battle for what is valuable. It is true that those who do may be carried out battered, bloodied, and defeated, but at least they will have tried.

You on the other hand can congratulate yourself on the wisdom of giving up without a fight. If saving yourself while sacrificing our children's future is your goal, than you can properly call yourself a winner.

I wish you only good luck with that strategy. Do not let the fact that it has always failed in the past discourage you; this may just be the election cycle that will break that long, long losing streak.

part one of response to Jude, post #59
Dear Jude:
Principles are inflexible, or they would not be principles. But principles are not necessarily specific. Principles form a standard for moral or ethical decisions, not a detailed set of instructions.

The only person I agree with 100% of the time is me, and that is limited to the present only. I have cast many votes for candidates with whom I disagreed on some issues. But a line must be drawn somewhere. I will not vote for a liar, thus McCain and Clinton are disqualified. I will not vote for a fool, thus Obama is disqualified. I might have voted for Paul, but I did not endorse every word he uttered. I may yet vote for Bob Barr, but I have not sufficiently vetted his fidelity to our law.

I have no heroes, and put no one on a pedestal. I am just too reality based to engage in such nonsense. I fear you may be projecting your own weaknesses to others.

Responsible adults select the best candidate available, or abstain. They do not vote for the lesser of evils. That course only ensures the imposition of evil upon your friends and neighbors. Evil may still ascend to high position, but why would you want to put your imprimatur on such travesty.

Utopia is not an option. Bottom line mentality is another name for ethical bankruptcy.

Taxation is akin to theft. Taxes should be as close to non-existent as practicable.

Just as you cannot be separated from your right to self-defense, you cannot be separated from any means of self-defense, be it pistol, rifle or howitzer. Where is our disagreement?

Sir, there is but one reason that principles may not carry the election to a happy conclusion: too many unprincipled scoundrels who vote. Those who vote for the privilege of plundering the public treasury, and those who refuse to vote against such plunder.

(cont.)

dreadnaught - Money-grubbing skinflints?
Say what? Yes, a lot of Mormons are very successful. In fact, there is an unusually high % of LDS CEO's. Did you ever wonder why? I don't think it has anything to do with money-grubbing, but more like solid values, an emphasis on education and work ethic.

There is a recurring theme, that "intelligent" people would not believe in Mormonism. But if you look around, you'll see that Mormons are of normal intelligence. Our doctrine is entirely based upon the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and our "far-fetched" beliefs as some call them, are no more far-fetched than anything you find in orthodox Christianity. There must be a reason why we're the fastest growing religion in America, and elsewhere.

Romney has a good shot at VP, and I don't agree with you that he would flop in a national election. His biggest obstacle is with evangelicals and at least half were supporting him, already. He doesn't have far to go to win them over. He is by far the most qualified man we've seen this go round. Team him ups with Jindal as VP and you have a winner in 2012.

Some points to remember


I find Mormonism a huge crock; absolutely ridiculous and unfounded in any Christian context. But; it's a free country. Though I must question the intelligence of any adult who can believe that doctrine; I still see Romney as quite an impressive man. He's young, attractive and conservative in many ways.

My main reason for not seeing any potential in him as President is, he can't get the necessary votes. He would simply flop in a national election. BECAUSE of the Mormon connection. VOTES are hard enough to come by when people are unbiased and practical.

When a fourth of the county's electorate thinks Mormons are crazy and nothing but money-grubbing skinflints who believe ungodly poppycock --the election can sure be an eye-opener. A BUST! Romney would fail badly to overcome those odds, IMHO. Why place our hopes in that bucket with all the holes in it? His best hope is a place in our Republican president's cabinet.

response to dreadnaught, post #57
dn: "let's debate about the GOP"

Dear dreadnaught:
Debate is fine, but may be a bit too adversarial for someone that relies so heavily on insults and ad hominem attacks. I offer you honest, despite your snarky first paragraph, discussion on any subject you choose. Just don't go sailing off in all directions at once.

The comparative assessment I offered of McCain, Obama, and Hillary is not "editorializing", it is observation. There are some differences among them, but the three are more similar than different. They all want to grow government. They all want to control more aspects of Americans' lives. They all ignore the Constitution. There is more, but more is not necessary. The fact that all three demonstrate contempt for the rule of law eliminates them equally as candidates I would endorse.

Your starving children, and tax breaks comment is gratuitous. I have never uttered any such words.

If not traitorous, what do you call their repeated promotions of policy and legislation that tends to undermine our law, and our nation? Is that not the very essence of treasonous behavior.

dr: "Because sovereignty isn't any individual characteristic. We're citizens of a sovereign nation."

IT: If you believe that statement, you are ignorant of the very foundation of our form of government. All power is vested in the governed.

Please refer to the Declaration of Independence. Only individuals have rights. Government powers are limited. Only sovereign individuals can consent to being governed. If government is imposed, it is tyrannical by definition.

The checks and balances installed in our Republic have long since been remove by the likes of John McCain and his Democrat & Republican cronies. I respectfully submit it is you that requires additional schooling.

I believe I have responded to you sans emotion. Now the test; can you do as much?

PS
I hope that the Rs wake up at the convention and the delegates go Romney since his name is still in the mix. He only suspended his campaign, he did not drop out.

And thank you Nic for your kind comments.

Dreadnaught and Jude
The two of you are so offensive. How brilliant are you that you don't realize that when you call people names, it doesn't 'rally' them to your cause.

I respect your right to vote for McCain. I'm sorry you don't respect my right not to.

No more lesser of two evils. Let the Rs completely implode and let conservatism rise out of the ashes to stand for what they once did. The difference between Ds and Rs is almost imperceptible. I will not vote for McCain as things stand now.

Go ahead and call me names since that is such a 'smart' thing to do.

Romney and Evangelicals Around here!
In GA's 3rd largest city, most evangelicals, and I am one, were solid behind Romney. We were very disappointed to see him drop out of the race. I've lived out west, too, and everyone there knows that Mormons, even if you disagree with their religion, make the absolute best neighbors for friendliness, helpfulness, and uprightness.

Confusion
The first point in this article was the most confused, ill-informed piece of text I have ever read on townhall. The stupidity of the questions shows a complete lack of understanding of federalism and the constitution. Imagine wondering why murder should be a state issue. Or that it is the responsibility of the federal government to amend the constitution. Or the role of the Constitution in limiting the powers of the federal government. Wow! Please study the Constitution a bit before spouting off what you think are challenging questions. However, your remaining questions were on the mark.

Poor Gregg
He seems to be stuck on Romney/Mormon hatred. He never misses an opportunity to remind everyone.

I actually feel quite sorry for the folks who can't seem to move past anti-Mormon bigotry. They don't seem to realize how small it makes them and how they destroy their own reputations. They seem to be living in the dark ages, but don't know it.

We can thank Huckabee for one thing. He brought to the surface the ugly bigotry of some in the evangelical movement. And I emphasize SOME. The numbers are few and dwindling. Huck's anti-Mormon tactics showed was a petty lot they are and that they are basically irrelevant. Remember the anti-Mitt ad and how it utterly backfired?

So funny and pathetic at the same time. Huckabee will be the last politician to try the anti-Mormon bomb.

Clear sailing for Romney in 2012. McCain seems determined to face down the agents of intolerance in the evangelical movement. You go, John.


McCain's Money Man
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/01/28/open-borders-campaign- finance-hypocrisy-eco-radicalism-mccains-billionaire-nation al-finance-co-chair-jerry-perenchio/

Heads up Univision, gives lots of money to greenies, fights against assimilation. Just McCain's kind of guy.

Not voting for anyone who will not enforce the laws, secure the border or defend the country.

Reply from a "Bob Barr kook"
Jude posted:
Subject: for all you stay-home or Bob Barr kooks
For everyone so busy ridiculing the rest of us for "compromising our principles," I have a question. >>

Personally, as things stand now, I expect to vote for Bob Barr on the Libertarian ticket. I do not intend to vote for John McCain. I don't like McCain, I don't trust him, and I don't agree with most of his ideas. I don't particularly like, trust or agree with Obama either, but I'm not as intensely afraid of him as some of you seem to be. In at least a few respects, Obama may be preferable to McCain from my point of view. And I think it may be possible to accomplish something by standing up for my real principles rather than settling for a "lesser evil" (if McCain is, indeed, even the lesser evil) who shares almost none of my principles.

That doesn't mean, however, that I am "ridiculing" those who choose to vote for McCain. If you honestly think that McCain's principles are right, you should vote for him. If you don't like McCain but think voting for him as the lesser evil is the best you can do forr your country in this unhappy election year, then vote for him. I can respect that choice. Can you respect mine? Is it OK for you to "ridicule" my choices but not for me to "ridicule" yours? Do you think it helps sway me toward your point of view to call me "fool," "traitor", "Benedict Arnold", etc.? Such attacks will not convince me to vote for McCain. They may convince me to abaondon the Republican Party and the conservative movement not just for this election year, but forever.

dreadnaught,
it is indeed an open forum...to the extent that even those, such as yourself, are given the opportunity to express themselves through boorish, obnoxious, and rude posts reflecting the personna behind their words. "Insighting Truth" has you pegged well indeed.

McCain Has Already Answered
most of the questions posed by the author.
I don't like his answers. When his answers are not too vague to understand they are pretty much the same as the democrats.'
I will NOT vote for him.

not going to vote for McCain...
...have been saying this for months, not changing my mind now. I personally am sick and tired of voting for the lessor of two evils, or voting against someone.

According to "Ballot Access News" the Constitution Party is 3rd in voter registration and the fastest growing 3rd party.

Although I do not agree with their entire platform, and since posters on TH continually remind us that politics IS compromise, my wife, myself, my three grown children and their spouses will be voting for Chuck Baldwin.

Great questions but....
You negated any hope that your questions matter. You stated that McCain already has your vote. Why risk offending you by answering your questions. Don't make your vote so automatic!!! Make them work for it!!!

McCain or Catastrophe--Pick Just one!
Gregg, as you know, I agree with virtually everything you wrote.

However, despite all his negatives, at this stage of the game conservatives have no other choice but to back McCain.

I know there's a different view out there--that we should let McCain lose, take our lumps, and then hope for a Reagan in 2012.

There are two significant problems with that line of thought:

1. There IS no Reagan out there that I know of who could win in 2012 and

2. Four years--or possibly 8!--of an Obama or a Clinton administration could very well be catastrophic for this nation. The probability of 4-5 vacancies within that timespan on SCOTUS is more than enough motivation to suck it up and support, campaign for, and VOTE McCain even if we have to hold our noses as we do.

We all know that politics makes for strange bedfellows. Politics also makes for compromise, as McCain knows as well.

My first, close-up and personal, campaign experience was in 1964 with Barry Goldwater. That principled father of modern conservatism stuck by his guns, and lost in a landslide.
The result was LBJ and 60,000 dead in Nam.

America can't afford to lose in 2008!




principles are inflexible...huh?
InsightingTruth,
if your principle is "I will never vote for anyone who disagrees with me or conservative philosophy on any issue great or small" then my challenge to you is that looking back over history you will not find anyone, no one, that survives your litmus test. You will find many that exhibit conservatism (or fill in your own blank here) to varying levels. All of them represent compromise. (if they didn't, you'd be voting for....me). It is the fool that puts historical heroes on a pedestal and condemns all contemporaries.
In an election, we choose. We choose the best candidate, or the least evil candidate. We always do, and whining protests about wanting to empower a third party or wanting to create a conservative utopia don't impress me much.
My principles are about the bottom line, they're not about how I can prove myself to the world, or what I can write on my gravestone. I want my taxes low, my gun rights unabridged, my country strong, and my freedoms intact, and no amount of chest beating (or bragging about my principles) would persuade me that it were a good deal to trade those so I could vote for a proud and philosophically correct loser.

Your principle: low taxes are good (example, bear with me here)
Your action: vote for libertarian with no chance of winning
The result: your taxes go up
The conclusion: you get a nice epitaph about standing strong by your principles

Forgive me if I observe the stupidity of your strategy.

nonsense, Not Ashamed to Be Right


I'm sorry you dispute my right to post here. Go ahead and scroll away; I didn't post for your good grades. We aren't in class today.

Yeah; sometimes I lean too hard on some people. I don't complain when they assail me; I can take it as well as dish it. Most of all, it delights me to deflate big egos. A little irony goes a long way. It's better than posting dull BS; about "conservative principles." That one's got very old.

Also, I happen to believe we must elect John McCain. It gets me when a few idiots feel free to accuse him of atrocities, or question his Americanism. Why don't they just say he's not a candidate for their taste? No, they come here to denigrate and curse a man who suffered real horrors defending our country in wartime. I care enough to fight back on his behalf. Not just to act like a Big Shot. My hope is to change one or two minds who might read the thread. Because after all. It's an open forum. You don't own it.

let's debate about the GOP


Dear insighter: A debate in which your lofty principles sit down and stay out of the bargain; we'd at least understand one another. I can't cater to outlandish trashing of the truth like this:

"McCain, Obama, and Hillary are all cut from the same authoritarian cloth."

That's editorializing your private opinion, not the record. If you're going to generalize about 3 completely separated individuals, you're no better than the Democrats, when they said Republicans want children to starrve; and it's all "tax breaks for the rich," -- don't flatter those figments of your imagination. You continue --

"The details of their traitorous behavior vary, but the goal is the same. " That's more hot air. Tell us the TRUTH; not just "THE SKY IS FALLING," like Chicken Little.

"They all seek power at the expense of our individual sovereignty."

You wanted debate? That's a ridiculous charge. Because sovereignty isn't any individual characteristic. We're citizens of a sovereign nation. And NOBODY gets power over that.

Our gov't has its checks and balances for preventing any President or party from becoming dictators. Pay attention to FACTS; stop posting emotions. You really ought to go back to school, Insights /


InsightingTruth, just
a comment about your most excellent post (#55) to 'dreadnaught"...this person has been posting frequently as of late. Usually the posts are filled with insults and name calling, as well as presumptions about who you (the responding poster) is, does, or thinks. I stopped long ago attempting to communicate with this person and in fact, most often scroll right past his/her entries.

I often wonder about some of the antagonistic posters found on TH who I happen to think may be TH operatives (for lack of a better word) used to get the boards "humming." I barely have time to post 3-5 times on most columns, and some of these posters have +25 entries per column. Maybe they are bored? Maybe they are TH operatives? Who knows? Sometimes they can be entertainment for those who enjoy playing their games.

dreadnaught:
My post made no assumptions about you. I submit you know nothing about me. You do not address my comments, you just attempt to belittle me.

Engage me in a point/counter point discussion. Stick to the facts about McCain. Let the chips fall where they may.

I'll be back later to see if you accept.

I Am Sans Pareil
Location: MA

Reply # 1
Date: May 29, 2008 - 3:24 PM EST Subject: orlandocajun
"You don't read with understanding all that well do you?
The original question was - "are you a...'voter'...who will not vote McCain because..".
So your asking "Do what" to #4 is troubling."

You don't write so that you may be understood do you? Next time, begin question #4 with "If yes". Then, those of us who can write, can then comprehend what it is your asking.

At least you admit in #5 that you're willing to contribute to Obama's victory "not with money" but WITH YOUR VOTE.

"Which by the way makes #3 VERY applicable!"

You don't read with understanding do you? I said that I was going to vote for a conservative.

"As for your Military service...Thank You, but THAT is just another tie-in between you & Benedict Arnold as far as I can tell (though at least you aren't a Timothy McVeigh type...I hope)"

OK, so anyone who served in the military is either a traitor or a terrorist right?

I have a question for you...are you on medication?

reply #5 of insighting truth's


A wonderful show of patriotic devotion, inst;
"dreadnaught:
Al qaeda may threaten my life, but does not threaten my freedom. McCain, and too many others like him in Washington, and all together too many frightened sheep like you, are the real threat to my liberties." --- Your first paragraph: A study in total self-absorption. ME, My, about me, myself and I. Shame on you.

". . . regarding my place in this struggle. . . I see the path to restore our Republic, it is because I follow the great explorers of our founding." More blather. How many republics have you ever "restored," and why do you assume the authority for OUR republic? You haven't even run for office. You're just grandstanding, at the expense of another man. John McCain; who's done much more than you'll do in your lifetime. You should practice a little humility. YOU "follow the great explorers!" What an ego!

"McCain, Obama, and Hillary are all cut from the same authoritarian cloth. The details of their traitorous behavior vary, but the goal is the same. They all seek power at the expense of our individual sovereignty." Reply: --You've gone bonkers!

"I post here for one reason: to support and defend the essence of what the framers bequeathed to us, their posterity. Your comments and your entreaties inviting other to vote for the despicable, completely unAmerican John McCain puts us squarely on opposite paths." .............. REPLY: Save your essence; save your speeches and your BS. For you to call McCain "unAmerican," is the essence of stupity; you're defending your own overblown HOGWASH. Oh; and keep your vote, too.

orlandocajun
You don't read with understanding all that well do you?
The original question was - "are you a...'voter'...who will not vote McCain because..".
So your asking "Do what" to #4 is troubling.

At least you admit in #5 that you're willing to contribute to Obama's victory "not with money" but WITH YOUR VOTE.
Which by the way makes #3 VERY applicable!

As for your Military service...Thank You, but THAT is just another tie-in between you & Benedict Arnold as far as I can tell (though at least you aren't a Timothy McVeigh type...I hope)

PS
I hate to "INSULT & RUN" but duty calls...if you want to post I will get back to this later...or you can post at my blog and we can carry it further there (again, in a little while however).
Again. Thank You For Your service.

W/O=

This author is a SAP, I fear . . .
I mean, he sounds like a simpering McCainiac. Obama will at least speak the truth re what he is going to do. McCain's first move on immigration? Total utter, amnesty -- and he will have a liberal Congress to help him on that score (assuming RINOs will mostly lose to Dems, which will be a good thing long term -- but most RINOs would go for amnesty anyway . . . )

Enjoy the United Socialist Republic of the Americas (united with Mexico).

craigers:
What difference does it make if you vote for socialist Obama or socialist McCain? They are both determined to undermine our heritage of freedom. They both blatantly disregard the Constitution.

Hitting The Mark
Typical for a liberal-in-denial, "Dan M" above completely misses the point of Jackson's article. CLEARLY John McCain is the better overall choice over Obama, but this doesn't mean that conservatives should roll over and not pose legitimate and serious questions to McCain during this presidential election season.

THAT is the point to the article.

If the November 2006 elections (and beyond) have demonstrated anything, it's that the Republican Party has lost touch and site with the core conservative principles it is supposed to be based upon. Posing tough questions to the GOP candidate from within the party is exactly what the GOP needs to do. Not only ASK the questions, but hold McCain to conservative principles and values.

dreadnaught:
Al qaeda may threaten my life, but does not threaten my freedom. McCain, and too many others like him in Washington, and all together too many frightened sheep like you, are the real threat to my liberties.

Let me pause for a moment before this exchange devolves into an insult-fest. I have no illusions regarding my place in this struggle. If in fact I see the path to restore our Republic, it is because I follow the great explorers of our founding.

John McCain has done nothing to earn the support of Americans that believe in the principles which formded this nation. If you cast your ballot for McCain you are abetting our enemies, if not outright joining them.

McCain, Obama, and Hillary are all cut from the same authoritarian cloth. The details of their traitorous behavior vary, but the goal is the same. They all seek power at the expense of our individual sovereignty.

I post here for one reason: to support and defend the essence of what the framers bequeathed to us, their posterity. Your comments and your entreaties inviting other to vote for the despicable, completely unAmerican John McCain puts us squarely on opposite paths.

NO more lesser of two evils!
I will not vote for McnoBRain! I will never again vote for a lesser of two evils. Because all you get is a continued drift to the hard left and socialism as you continue to vote the lesser of two evils over time. TH republican the party today has no sound principles! It stands for nothing! it accomplishes nothing! It proposes nothing and ends up jumping into bed with the democratic socialists every time. MCCain is the new Republicrat party! He is an amalgamation of both parties! The penultimate traitor of America!

I will vote for Billary or Obama out of Spite! The only time Repulicants act like conservatives is when a democrat is in the white house! I will never vote for or give money to the new republicrat party!

So Mcinsider elitist! Never, never, never will I vote for you and the other North American union traitors!

A Few More Questions
Are you a Conservative/Republican who will not vote for John McCain because -

A. You feel or have said - "Let the Dems screw things up so they can't blame us Republicans"?
B. You think the Dems can't make things so bad in four years the damage can't be repaired?
C. McCain is "not conservative enough" for you?
D. He has crossed the aisle too many times for your liking?
E. He co-sponsored McCain-Feingold?
F. He co-sponsored McCain-Kennedy aka the "comprehensive immigration reform bill"?
G. You feel the immigration bill is actually "McAmnasty"?
H. To you Sen.McCain is Sen."McShame" or "McLame" or some other derogatory variation?
I. You think after four years of Liberal Democrat rule, the voters of this country will come running back to the Republicans?

Then you should probably wake up to the fact that OBAMA IS WORSE!!!
And if you think we can prevent a Lib Super Majority in either Branch of Congress you are kidding yourself...many more Republican seats are up for grabs than Dem & the ONLY Dem in trouble at this point appears to be Mary Landreau of LA...with many more Dems due to 'turn out' in November a Super Majority for them is a given.
Then of course there is always the chance that after Four Years of Super-Lib/Socialist rule there may be no Republican Party to speak of for anyone to "come running back to".

W/O=

Thrid party
I am not voting for a man who stands against everything I believe in. Better to let the liberals do their dirtiest as McCain will be ineffective as he believe in everything they do in addition the republicans have abandoned us. The only way we can comeback is to dump the current rinos and perhaps after two years we could comeback. We can't if McCain gets elected

I Am Sans Pareil
Reply # 10
Date: May 29, 2008 - 1:24 PM EST And Now a Few Questions For
Conservatives, Republicans & Patriots

"Are you a registered Republican who will not vote for John McCain because -

1.You are staying home on November 4 in protest?

No

2.You plan to vote for a Third Party candidate in protest?

No, I plan to vote for a third party candidate because he's a conservative while McCain is a Liberal.

3.You are voting for the Democrat to teach the RNC/GOP a lesson.

N/A

4.You want to feel superior to those that do.

Do what?

5.Are you willing to contribute to the victory of Barak Hussein Obama in the 2008 Election?

Not money

6.Are you willing to risk the destruction of the country you profess to love so much by turning it over to this most dangerous of candidates we have encountered in OUR lifetimes & perhaps the Nations lifetime?

If we survived Jimma, we'll survive Obama.

7.Are you willing to tear asunder the Rights & Freedoms so many have died protecting and preserving for YOU?

I served in the military, so spare me the drama.

If you answered YES to any of these questions you may have more in common with Benedict Arnold than you do with...
George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan or any other great & patriotic American.

Why, because of my brown hair? You sound like a liberal hyperventilating over global warming. If you like McCain, that's fine with me, but spare us your sanctimonious traitor analogy.

How can you trust McCain?
Those who say we need the lesser of the two evils - that would be Hillary!! McCain says one thing, but his actions in the past say the opposite.
If just for the judges for Supreme Court,how can you be sure of the type of judges he will choose?

There is no wasted vote except for the one not cast.

insighting "truth"
Forgive me, IT, but you couldn't convince anybody with these high-sounding, pointless words;

Because you seem to be elevating the role you play in these affairs into some Starship Enterprise; you playing Capt. Kirk; " to go where no man has ever gone."

Come off it, Pal. Your so-called principles mean you're comfortable with al Qaeda reducing some major American city to dust; or poisoning the water supply of half the country;

Because you put up with the idea of throwing the fight. For your PRINCIPLES ! Give the White House to a Cut & Run Commander-in-Chief -- you favor Islamic Jihad; rather than helping us elect a MAN for a man's job: John McCain.

calm down, bob e.


Please simmer down, Bob.

You plan a good defeat, Bob.

"However, if conservatives vote for him it will set the Reagan Revolution back another generation. Can those of us that claim to love the great conservative Ronald Reagan and, what he did for us, violate our consciences by voting for liberal McCain?"

Screw your conscience !

Don't try to sucker everyone into living in the past. Reagan was wonderful; it could be sixty years before we see the next Reagan. Meantime, let's fight with the weapons we have; not what we wish we had.

"Conservatives must not only defeat the left wing we must defeat the Nixon/Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party!"

FYI, we aren't the "conservative party." Conservatives, Bob have always been a WING of the GOP; a powerful group within the REPUBLICAN Party. You seem to ignore that. We still have all the proper planks in our party platform. Why are you hoping to sell out now? Are you like Scott McClellan? Another fair-weather @sshole friend?

Conservatives all have a responsibility. Not only to conservatism; but to the nation. We have to play team politics. Nobody's left out of the action.

McCain's about to bring back all those forgotten hispanics who went lefty; by securing something better than right-wing hatred and Minute Man rhetoric; which cost our party the congress majority in 2006. That was YOUR faction, spouting hate speech.

Guys like you are too short-sighted to see it; McCain is a UNITER. You're always dividing our people. All of us are voters; not just your "squeeky-clean conservative movement." -- A MOVEMENT that never goes forward. You're going backwards.

Jude & dreadnaught:
If mid eighteenth century Americans thought the way you do there would be no United States. In the end, our principles and our sacred honor are all we have. Principles are by definition inflexible. If principles are compromised they are not principles at all; they are mere guidelines.

I'll take my stand with the great patriots of the past. I will support and defend the Constitution, and more importantly the ideals that document attempts to codify.

Even should you two prevail in undermining our Republic, what will you have gained? Would you like the inscription on your tombstone to read: "He stood by his guidelines every time it was convenient."

A Better Idea
For the well being of the Republic might be to start planning and to lay the groundwork for a REAL & VIABLE 3rd party to be up and running in 2012...or even better, START the REBUILDING PROCESS of our party NOW, again with 2012 as a target date...but this year there is too much at stake to just hand over the keys of government to the Libs & Obama.

A Super Majority of Libs in Both Branches of Congress Coupled with Obama as POTUS and the country you know today won't even be recognizable in 2012 (or possibly forevermore) if the BIG mistake is made now.

W/O=

Does anyone else here
think that "dreadnaught" and "thomasgassett" may be one and the same poster? The two of them could almost be indentical twins with their number of posts, the insults/name calling, and disrespect for those who hold a different opinion with regards to voting in 08. Just a thought...

Bob E.,
"No doubt, that voting for Bob Barr will give Obama the White House."

I'm not 100% sure on that idea...mainlyb because I have heard enough libs say they are so scared of Obama that they will actually vote for McCain (since he is a Democrat too...but not a Marxist Dem.)

nonsense, bob e.
You're making me laugh !!!!!

"Bob Barr has done a service for the United States by running for president! Conservatives now can vote for a “truer conservative,” than McCain."

Vote for the death of the Republican Party? You're dreaming. A vote for Barr is a vote for Barack Hussein Obama; as well as for Democrat power over this country into the 20-20's or longer.

Your vote for Barr goes directly to the landfill after the election. Kiss your dreams good-bye.

.

nonsense, builderbob

PLEASE; get real !

"We need to unite behind a third party candidate for POTUS and vote conservative lower on the ticket."

May I tell yuz what THAT would accomplish, Bob?

You vote 3rd party for POTUS; effectively giving it to Obama. (Man DEMS love guys like you.)

Then vote "conservative" lower on the ticket. Wow! That's cool! You __may or may not__ get a congressman elected in ONE state. But you'll lose the other 51 states and elect a Democrat president who might be around for 8 years! All to satisfy that hard-on you have for Senator McCain; who is a slam dunk if we all give him the benefit of the doubt this time. (He'll never run in 2012).

You'd rather give Obama the benefit of the doubt. "Real smart."

Vote No for McCain
John McCain cannot become the next president of the United States!

I am not a Libertarian but Bob Barr has done a service for the United States by running for president! Conservatives now can vote for a “truer conservative,” than McCain.
What has happened to the Republican Party? Even Newt has gone to the dark side with the global warming hoax!

No doubt, that voting for Bob Barr will give Obama the White House. Nevertheless, if democrat/socialist policies are going to be promoted then let someone that has democrat/socialist title be responsible for the consequences!

McCain is counting on conservatives to vote for him because he believes that we will not want to see the democrat in the White House. However, if conservatives vote for him it will set the Reagan Revolution back another generation. Can those of us that claim to love the great conservative Ronald Reagan and, what he did for us, violate our consciences by voting for liberal McCain? Conservatives must not only defeat the left wing we must defeat the Nixon/Rockefeller wing of the Republican Party! Let these elitist do what Jay Rockefeller did and join the other elitists that comprise the democrat party!

McCain-Kennedy, McCain-Feingold, McCain-Leiberman. Leadership like this the country can do without. Carbon taxes, constitutional rights for Gitmo detainees and amnesty for illegal aliens await us no matter who wins!

Therefore, we must prepare for the pain of another Jimmy Cater, so that the Reagan Revolution will again rise out of the wilderness and bring pride in, and common sense to the United States of America!

May God Help the United States of America!

Bob Edmunson
Vancouver, Wa

And Now a Few Questions For
Conservatives, Republicans & Patriots

Are you a registered Republican who will not vote for John McCain because -

1.You are staying home on November 4 in protest?
2.You plan to vote for a Third Party candidate in protest?
3.You are voting for the Democrat to teach the RNC/GOP a lesson.
4.You want to feel superior to those that do.
AND
5.Are you willing to contribute to the victory of Barak Hussein Obama in the 2008 Election?
6.Are you willing to risk the destruction of the country you profess to love so much by turning it over to this most dangerous of candidates we have encountered in OUR lifetimes & perhaps the Nations lifetime?
7.Are you willing to tear asunder the Rights & Freedoms so many have died protecting and preserving for YOU?

If you answered YES to any of these questions you may have more in common with Benedict Arnold than you do with...
George Washington, Abe Lincoln, Ronald Reagan or any other great & patriotic American.

So keep this in mind all you potential Benedict Arnold-types out there -

For evil to succeed, all it takes is for good men to do nothing!

W/O=

builder bob, sir
The quote here is pure ignorance:

"voting third party it's sends a message that we want true conservatives in office."

If only this were true. The onlt real message is; "We are too stupid to understand politics. That's why we support LOSERS by voting 3rd parties. Our efforts to change something end up in the dumpster because we don't know what we're doing."

"We need to unite behind a third party candidate for POTUS and vote conservative lower on the ticket." (TRANSLATION)
We are dividing the GOP, looking to unite in the nearest storm cellar until the tornado is over. Then we emerge later; nobody even knows what became of Ross Perot, nor will they ever see Barr again; the TWISTER took him to parts unknown. If he's lucky he "unites" a few idiots like Ralph Nader unites them to this day. FOR NOTHING.

Orlando cajun has a good point
The presidential race is over. We get a liberal no matter who gets elected. I am not sure how McCain won the republican nomination (no its not officially over yet since the convention has not been held) but he has and the Republican Party has to deal with it. What has to be done now is to try to get the conservative from your state elected to Congress. The damage Obama can do to the country can be limited if we can get a conservative majority into Congress. Right now the pundits are predicting a huge Democrat landslide, obtaining supermajority in both houses. This needs to be prevented. Even if you vote for the Libertarian, write-in Newt Gingrich or what ever for President, PLEASE vote for the most conservative candidate for Congress. Spread the word!

I'm voting third party
By voting third party it's sends a message that we want true conservatives in office.We need to unite behind a third party candidate for POTUS and vote conservative lower on the ticket.

If you plan on staying home this election I encourage you to vote third party instead.

We will get more of what we vote for - you vote liberal - you will get more liberals next time.

"We can fix this, YES, WE CAN"

for all you stay-home or Bob Barr kooks
For everyone so busy ridiculing the rest of us for "compromising our principles," I have a question. What if our greatest objective is to further a cause, or to resist an overwhelming tide, not to hold on a principle even unto death? Convince me it's worth drowning in the tide of liberalism in order to cling to the proud trophy of defeated principles. I hold my principles dear, but they are small comfort when the world goes down its proverbial slippery slope. Yes I will vote for a man I don't respect and with whom I disagree. Yes I will work to rejuvenate and remake the party. But I won't hand the country to my enemies to make a point and achieve stoic pride of having clung fruitlessly to my valid principles.


McCain's VP
The only way he could pick someone more liberal than himself is to select Obama.

McCain will not reduce government spending since he believes in the man-made global warming fantasy. And he does not believe in the rule of law since he will further support amnesty for illegal aliens. The man is, purely and simply, a RINO.

For anyone who believes in conservative PRINCIPLES to contemplate voting for McCain means they took those principles and shoved them where the sun doesn't shine. You cannot compromise on principles. That's what makes them principles and not vague guidelines. McCain doesn't compromise his principles, whatever they are. That's what makes him "The Maverick" and a RINO.

Vote Bob Barr 2008
http://www.bobbarr2008.com

Dear Mel from TX
Ask and ye shall receive:

Reply # 8
May 29, 2008 - 10:34 AM EST

Laughable "Straight-Talk"
Gregg, good questions, -- How on earth can you describe McCain as an "across-the-board conservative?"

Try these:

Pro-Life
Anti-Gay Marriage
Pro-Military
Clean up the Supreme Court
Lower taxes, control spending
Stop the earmarks, pork barrel politics,
Lower our deficits,
Defeat Jihad and global terrorism,
Defend our borders without demonizing Mexicans.

I'll easily follow that kind of leader; instead of the empty suits, or hopeless third party candidates.

.

Mitt Romney is not a liberal
Gregg,
I must respectfully disagree. Your statement that Mitt Romney is a liberal is demonstrably untrue, and dangerous since he may represent one of the future leaders of the party. I recognize that Mitt Romney has made a few dumb plays in his life; my contention is that he is still fundamentally conservative, with very few exceptions. Furthermore, his "exceptions" or "compromises," while we may scoff at them, were made while he was campaigning and leading in a state far to his left. What does Mitt Romney believe?
a) that radical islamic fundamentalism is the greatest threat facing our country
b) that taxes are counterproductive and should be lowered and flattened
c) that the rule of law is more important and more correct than the rule of people
d) that marriage is between man and woman
e) that enforcement of immigration laws is necessary
f) that judges should stick to their constitutional roles
h) that government is not the place to enforce or validate your religion
i) that the rkba is a fundamental and pivotal gaurantee in the constitution
Even WITH his transgressions (a law requiring people to have health insurance, flip-flopping on gay marriage, and...?) he is infinitely more conservative (and smarter) than John McCain, Huckabee, Ron Paul, Rudy Giuliani, or any other national name in the party right now.
Now before the flame wars begin--let me ask one question: who of the conservative heroes, and let's limit it to people who have won a major election, has not made compromises? Reagan signed amnesty and raised taxes. But he was fundamentally conservative, and we forgave him for that. Newt Gingrich? Where do I start? George Bush Sr? George Bush Jr? Fred Thompson? come on guys. Mitt Romney is probably the best hope we have for the part in the next few years, until Jindal and Palin and Thune grow up a bit.
Personally, McCain-Romney would cause me to VOTE for John, and hold my nose quite a bit less.

to McCain never:
Ha!

"McCainNEVER
Location: FL
Reply # 15
Date: May 29, 2008 - 6:55 AM EST
Subject: oxymoron
"as an across-the-board conservative, I plan to vote for you in November"

"Take your pick. You can't be a conservative AND vote for McCain."

Reply:

YES YOU CAN. I am conservative, I'll also vote for McCain; because it's the sane thing to do.

"His election would be the end of conservatism." . . . Reply:

BULLSHYT ! Fringe-bunnies like YOU will ruin conservatism. American politics will always be bi-partisan. Fact of life. The last party like you want to have was Communism; where one party ruled and everyone else clammed up or went to Siberia.

"It would be the successful takeover of the Republican party by the RINO's."

REPLY: That's not a bad idea. America doesn't need a party of madmen running things. Have you forgotten this is a FREE country?

.

BETTER LOOK TO A THIRD PARTY

.....Jackson ...

.....I believe McCain has already answered those questions ...

.....Immigration: He wants amnesty

.....Sovereignty: He is a "One Worlder"

.....Energy: He voted against drilling in Anwar

.....Global Warming: He believes in AWG

.....Social Security: Don't read his lips - he will do nothing or else raise taxes ...

.....Abortion & Gay Marriage: He will leave it to the States, in other words nothing ...

.....COLOSSUS

these are all good questions
Good questions. We want McCain to address all of them; and likely they'll come up in some of his debates with Obambi. Hopefully he'll clear the air.

I think it's time our side comes to the realization; McCain will become President shortly, if we help him. Good fortune has come by way of the DEM candidate; an idol with clay feet if ever there was one. Just some light taps on Obama and his facade ought to go down in a shambles. Senator Mac is just the tornado to knock away that work under construction.

I only pray Obama loses 2008 by a small margin so he'll stay interested in the job;

--Then return in 2012 to try once more (the logical move) and get his butt kicked all over again by our incumbent Vice-Pres; maybe SC guv Mark Sanford; or Crist of FLA, Haley Barbor--

That'll work.


.

I am looking at---
I am looking at the possibility of voting for Bob Barr Libertarian, if he checks out to be a truly different brand of politician than these leading candidates we have now (complete sell-outs as far as I am concerned).

Does anyone on this thread know much about Barr?
I have only heard good concervative things so far. But, one never knows....

There is a reason he wrote the article!
One more chance to slam Mitt Romney. He has been a Romney hater from the very beginning and can't say zip without infusing his hatred into any talk of the election. It is a sad position and state of mind. Mr. Romney is a good man and a great choice for vice president! I hope John McCain makes the right choice for VP whether it is Romney or whoever. It will make a huge difference in his electability.

If...
...the choice is between the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party the LP is the better choice.

The LP, though small compared to the two major parties (one party, really) is huge, compared to the CP. In fact the LP is larger in all vital areas than all other 3rd parties put together.

Besides, the basic freedom agenda of the LP is much better aligned with traditional conservative policy than is the theocratic leaning CP. With Barr as its nominee, the LP is in a great position to garner a significant share of the conservative vote. Casting a ballot for the CP candidate would serve only to diffuse the protest vote, and compromise the message being sent to the GNC. If no clear message is telegraphed to Washington the effort will truly be wasted.

McCain
From one conservative to another, Mr. Jackson, take my advice and vote the Constitution Party ballot.

Laughable "Straight-Talk"
Gregg, good questions, but good luck with any answers you may receive.

One other question: How on earth can you describe McCain as an "across-the-board conservative?"

Thoughts.
Some believe Obama will cut and run - I don't. He'll simply follow the advice of the generals, as will McCain. Some believe his social programs will do what? Under Bush, the federal budget grew from $1.88 trillion to $3.25 trillion for 2009. How do you top an 80% increase in such a short period of time? McCain's cap and trade, his determination to exapnd the military, his health care proposals and the like will expand the government - as will Obama's. He might fight pork - but that's less than 2% of the budget. Cap and trade alone is estimated to cost 3 - 6 X as much each years as the total so-called pork in the budget. On immigration, global warming, environment, energy and the like, he has the same or similar positions. He's running as a centrist - not a conservative.

Orlandocajun has it right. Congress will do - or not do most of what you're talking about. And McCain, faced with strong democratic majorities in the house and senate, will deal with the GOP moderates and the Democratic moderates to craft an agenda. And, it will be a centrist agenda. The conservatives will, just as happened under Bush, be relegated to the sop of the Supreme Court. But McCain can only nominate - he cannot confirm. That's the Senates job. Roberts and Alito were confirmed because the GOP controlled the Senate. McCain will not have that luxury. In fact, if the Dems can reach out to three or four GOP moderates like Collins, Snow, etc., they will forge a veto proof majority. And as they've shown this year with Bush - they'll confirm only if they like them. So, the era of Justices with a "socially conservative bent", as opposed to those with a conservative bent, is over.

Seawolf
Obama can't do any of those things. Only Congress can. Conservatives should focus on Congress. There's no difference between Obama and McCain.

McCain cannot win in November
Elsewhere Bob Novak offers a state by state analysis that shows McCain winning the White House by 1 or 2 electoral votes. Novak is wrong. His analysis assumes facts not in evidence: namely, that all electoral college votes will end up in either the Democrat or Republican column.

McCain is so unpopular that 15% of Oregon's primary voters voted for Ron Paul despite the fact that most people don't even know Paul is still in the race. Now, with Bob Barr as the LP candidate it is unlikely every electoral vote will go to one of the two majors.

There is only one hope for conscientious republicans. There is still a chance that McCain can be defeated at the convention. McCain's pledged delegate count is only 1,010 or 42.44% of the total delegates. That is not enough to win on the first ballot without the support of some soft-pledged delegates. Un-pedged delegates are not required to vote for McCain.

McCain's popular vote count in the primaries stands at 46.32%. In other words he did not even win a clear majority in his own party. And remember, that 46.32% includes some cross-over dems, and liberal leaning independents that will NOT be voting for McCain in November.

No matter what McCain says or does he cannot win in November. It is remotely possible that the Dem candidate could lose, you know, the dead girl/live boy thing. However, given the mood of the country, dem fund raising success, the unpopularity of GWB, the bad economy, etc., that scenario is extremely unlikely.

McCain is a loser. He has always been a loser. The facts say he is likely to remain a loser. Any American that wastes a vote on McCain is only volunteering to join him in the loser's hall of fame.

Immigration Costs You Money

TG-A new study by noted economist Edwin S. Rubinstein analyzes the economic and fiscal impact of immigration– both legal and illegal– on 15 different federal agencies… meaning the cost to you and me.

From the report: “[The National Research Council] found [in 1997] that the average immigrant household receives $13,326 in federal annual expenditures and pays $10,664 in federal taxes—that is, they generate a fiscal deficit of $2,682 (1996 dollars) per household. In 2007 dollars this is a deficit of $3,408 per immigrant household.”

Read the report here or click

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Be A Maverick! No Votes For McCain!


When I heard McCain's Hispanic Outreach guy was none other than Smiling Juan Hernandez, I knew John McCain has heard nothing we have had to say.


Smiling Juan Hernadez
We know who he is, we know his loyalties are to Mexico, we know he wants to erase our borders and immigration laws.

JOHN MCCAIN, YOU NEED A NEW HEARING AID

Smiling Juan Hernandez
In case you don't know him, he used to work for the Mexican govt., lately he has been shilling for "rights" for illegal aliens in this country. He has said he wants Mexicans to remain Mexicans even if they are living here. His loyalties are to Mexico, not U.S.



Questions for illegal alien apologists like John McCain:

Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?

We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the power and money are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. The RNC wants an amnesty candidate, don't vote for one.

What we get if obama wins
A huge raise in taxes to pay for the liberal crap he proposes.
A huge raise in FICA taxes because the dems will never privatize that Ponzi scheme, it has bought them too many votes.

An increase in the extortion we call welfare to pay back his supporters.

A complete surrender in Iraq just when we are winning resulting in chaos and genocide against those Iraqis who supported us, just like Viet-Nam and Cambodia...dems never learn.

And a stacking of the Supreme Court with loony liberals who will shove the liberal agenda down our throats, shut down conservative talk radio and pretty much destroy this country.

With Mccain we get the opposite scenario and you know it, he ain't perfect, but who is?

Obama is worse than carter ever was.



not a happy camper these days.
The next president will be either the Democrat or Republican nominee.

That's the rub...the sad reality.

Are Obama's lengthy associations with a white race hating demagogue, and Obama's condescending remarks about guns and religion, and his extreme liberal voting record as senator, sufficient to doom his chances against McCain, who is horribly handicapped by the GOP brandname, and must battle to overcome the disastrous legacy of G.W. Bush...which McCain seems all too willing to continue with respect to Iraq?

McCain has been spouting the same nonsense as the neocons in the Bush administration about our crusade to "democratize" the world.

Iraq has damned near bankrupted us, yet this fool wants to embark on dozens more Iraqs!

I am totally disgusted by both Obama and McCain.

Were Obama a moderate, and had he come clean and confessed he made a huge blunder by ever associating with Wright, I would vote for him in a minute over McCain, who apparently envisions dozens more "Iraqs" in our future. disaster.

Looking back on it now, Colin Powell was about the only Bush administration official who had a lick of sense.






Wasting your time Gregg
McCain's been asked these questions many times and he always answers the same way...like a liberal.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me anymore who's President. We're screwed either way. My focus will be on local and Congress. I will probably vote for the Constitution or Libertarian candidate (I'm in a mood to throw my vote away this time).

Vote Libertarian!
Conservatives don't have a dog in this hunt. We have 2 dems running! Other than Iraq, the policies of Obama and McCain are pretty darn close.

Given McCain's tendencies to adopt any stupid far left policy to demonstrate what a maverick he is, I would not be surprised if he adopted the entire Democrat platform.

Obama for 4 years would be bad but I do not know if McCain would be worse

oxymoron
"as an across-the-board conservative, I plan to vote for you in November"

Take your pick. You can't be a conservative AND vote for McCain. His election would be the end of conservatism. It would be the successful takeover of the Republican party by the RINO's.

Banana Republic
It seems that both McCain and B.Hussein are determined to steer America towards it's decades long march in the direction of a true, bona fide Banana Republic.
Illegal Immigration = true economic & social disaster.
Energy = Increasing dependence on foreign enemies' good will while transfering our treasure.
Social Security = Bankrupt
Cap & Trade = Last nail in our economic coffin
Homosexual "marriage" = Strong symptom of society's moral bankrupcy.
"Environmentalism" - The hysterical nature of it is causing business, industry and agriculture to emigrate to less hostile places due to unresonable taxes and regulations.
Investments = Foreign investments, together with our own investments, will also be seeking friendlier environments, like Brazil for instance.
Agriculture = Soon we won't be able to feed ourselves due to the same reasons.

Waste of time...
McCain has answered all of these questions. He has made it clear that he will not support a conservative position on any of them which is why I will not be voting for McCain in November. This is a pointless article.

You have no choice
"In the coming months, prospective conservative voters and I look forward to your responses to questions on these important issues."

Not really. Jackson and every other conservative will vote for McCain because Obama is far worse. All this handwringing is a waste of time.

karoden and Dave M,
You both got it right! Karoden, I was thinking those exact same words as I read the article.
McCain will NEVER answer these questions truthfully...since he could give a (fill in the blank) about any conservative positions on issues other than Iraq (where he can use his POW story to supplement!)

Dave M, I'm with you. I would tell McCain that "I am voting for the Libertarian candidate unless you can honestly answer these questions."
Followed by, "Actually, I will be voting for the Libertarian candidate anyway since you cannot be trusted no matter what answers you give to these questions."

Yeah-right
"Senator McCain, as an across-the-board conservative, I plan to vote for you in November"


Then why did Jackson write the article in the first place?

Another brain dead republican achieves what I used to think was impossible-making liberals look smart

Lots Of luck !!!!
Lots of luck if you think you can get a straight answer from John Mc Cain. Read the current book entitled " The Real Mc Cain " by author Cliff Schecter. While the author comes across as somewhat liberally biased you can't argue with his take that McCain is a Flip Flopper on most if not all issues. Far from being the Straight Talker he claims to be Mc Cain cannot be trusted.
In the Senate Office complex any staff member wearing their sandal Flip Flops are said to be wearing a pair of Mc cains.
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