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Wednesday, November 14, 2007
Gregg Jackson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Romniacs Ignore Evidence Against Their Messiah
by Gregg Jackson
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Hillary may have been onto something. Apparently there really is a "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy." Now it is conservatives who have discovered just how bigoted, hateful and dangerous Right Wing Extremists are! EBAR (Evangelical Bigots Against Romney) is trying to take down (just like they tried to do to Bill Clinton!) the only man in America who can slay the Dragon Lady (Hillary). The spirit of Salvador Dali is now in the building.

The Romniacs are in a lather over the evidence presented by various Romney critics around the country, including talk radio talk show hosts Sandy Rios in Chicago and Gregg Jackson in Boston among thousands of others in the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy. EBAR has laid on the table a bunch of evidence which Romney Kool Aid drinkers ("Don't you like know how totally Kool Mitt is?!") have countered with hissing and spitting insults, the most popular being: "bigot!!" The enemies are everywhere. Don't look out the window!!

According to Romniacs, anti-Mormon bigotry is: disbelieving Mitt is the Hillary-slaying savior-and it is the only reason he has a mere 12 percent national support among GOP voters.

Romney's campaign began with Romniacs calling those evangelicals who were not interested in Romney 'bigots.'" It is a fascinating variation of the gay agenda mind control device: Believe everything we believe or we will call you hateful homophobes! Hey, it worked.

After a week of the Kool Aid Drinkers arching their backs, hair standing on end, hissing and spitting insults and contempt, our original charges remain un-refuted. What charges you ask? These are the charges the Romniacs have not refuted:

1. Romney's record shows he's a liberal. Like his three predecessors, Romney was a liberal Republican governor. Before him, Massachusetts didn't have a government-mandated health care law, gay marriage, or a Democrat governor. After him, it did.

2. His record shows he is pro-abortion. Although he has flip flopped on abortion for years, the health care law he left Massachusetts with includes abortion as a healthcare benefit, increased tax payer funding for abortion and mandates a Planned Parenthood appointee on the plan's board. John Haskins, one of Massachusetts' leading pro-family advocates, said, "The bottom line is more babies will be liquidated because of Romney's health care plan." Mitt claims to have had a pro-life epiphany courtesy of a Harvard doctor prior to signing the health care law mandating abortion.

3. His record shows he is not a fiscal conservative. RomneyCare will inevitably turn Taxachusetts into the 75 percent tax rate state to pay for a "non-profit" health care system that is more expensive than most of the for-profit state health care systems in America. Massachusetts had the highest health care costs in the world when Romney signed the law. If he's so brilliant, how come he doesn't know that government doubles the cost and halves the quality of whatever service it assumes? In any event, Hillary and Ted K praised Romney's health care law, which coincidentally was very similar to a Hillary plan called "Healthy Choices." The Congressional Budget Office said this level of government intervention and regulation was "unprecedented" – as in even the out-of-control socialist Democrats hadn't gone this far! The Wall Street Journal said RomneyCare was in "intensive care" right after birth. As Romney was being praised for his strong fiscal record by conservative talk show hosts, his plan almost doubled average premiums, costing Taxachusetts $150 million more than the public was first told.

4. His record shows he is pro-gay agenda. Romney vowed to be more gay friendly than Ted Kennedy when he ran against him for Senate. The New York Times recently pointed out that Romney met with leaders of the Log Cabin Republicans and promised not to oppose the gay marriage law in the Cradle of Liberty. Not only didn't he oppose it, outside of public declarations against it – but he secretly empowered it by ordering Justices of the Peace to perform same sex marriage ceremonies or be fired. He also ordered his Department of Health to change the marriage certificates from "husband" and "wife" to "partner A" and "partner B" when he was not legally obligated to do so. Haskins said, "If Romney had not given those orders to the town clerks and justices of the peace (to perform gay marriages or get fired), there would be no gay marriage in Massachusetts today." Why would a pro-family guy send flyers to a gay pride event reading "Mitt and Kerry wish you a great Pride Weekend?"

5. He has a record of appointing liberal judges. The Boston Globe said Romney "passed over" GOP lawyers and granted most of his 36 judge seat appointments to "registered Democrats or independents, including two gay lawyers who support expanded same-sex rights." Haskins and other Massachusetts conservative activists claim Romney violated the Massachusetts Constitution in issuing those orders to town clerks and justices of the peace. If Romney has no respect for the constitution of the birthplace of America, why would he appoint pro-U.S. Constitution judges?

6. He is pro-gun control. Although he joined the NRA a hundred and twenty days prior to beginning his presidential campaign, as governor Romney favored strict gun control laws opposed by the NRA such as the Brady Bill and Assault Weapons Ban.

7. Voters don't trust him. Four recent national polls including a recent Pew Center Poll revealed that voters trusted Romney least of the four major GOP presidential candidates. Liberal Lion Ted Kennedy suggested Romney is like John Kerry. Kennedy called him "Multiple Choice Mitt," when he ran against him in a senate race. Multiple choice – as in: he has multiple positions on issues, and like Kerry, he may vote for something just after he votes against it. His record shows he is for and against abortion, the gay agenda, socialist health care and gun control. While 99 percent of the media likes Mitt, polls show about 90 percent of the voters don't. The Romney campaign attributes that to the bigotry of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy.

8. Unfortunately we don't have time to get into his compassionate conservatism and the dog strapped to the roof of his car.

Co-author Paul Dinger is a 30 year veteran Boston journalist writing a book entitled "The Secret Meaning of America."

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Gregg Jackson is a radio talk show host on WRKO in Boston and author of "Conservative Comebacks to Liberal Lies: Issue By Issue Responses to the Most Common Claims of the Left from A to Z."

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Obviously...
...Jackson, you are afraid of Romney's intelligence, integrity, and strength because you have none of those. You are just a yapping coyote. Your columns are cheap and nasty. You should be ashamed of yourself, but I don't think you know what the word "shame" even means.

Bad Day at Black Rock for Mr. J?
This essay fairly sizzles with hot oil to throw at the Romney camp. The title is disrespectful of the Savior's sacred title.

Journalism can be witty without being mean. This is Mr. Jackson's second expose-type smear on Romney. I noticed he's from Boston where the press is not pro Romney, to put it mildly.

For real facts, real data, real information, hop onto http://www.mittromney.com and read his speeches and official press releases. It is a whole different world from the angry one of Mr. J.

When someone writes with such anger and throws objectivity out the window, my sixth sense says "follow the money." What does Mr. J. have to gain by this kind of yellow journalism? (Maybe he's too young to recognize that phrase.)

Meanwhile, the reader is left with a bad taste in his/her mouth after reading such a rigged article. Yuck!

Gregg - you are better than this...
You know that these points are built of misperceptions and nuance that requires suspensions of reality.

When did you have Romney on your show to answer your questions? What did he say to your charges? You speak entirely about his past positions - does he still hold those same positions?

Do you have any substance that is later than 2002 that you are basing any of this on?

YOU ARE BETTER THAN THIS GREGG - and you're wrecking your otherwise good name!

http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/g/8593cdec-8716-4534-ab ef-93f12bd9c8ac

ROFL He took out the Big Dig this time!
What troubles me is to see these once social liberals like Camenker decide to care about the conservative movement when they can profit in some niche of talk and publication.

Gregg and his friends have found Townhall and they have a whole THREE contributions of nefarious misrepresentation. The world needs fewer parasites like Gregg and his child ego brigade.

A quick search of even the Boston Globe shows the initiatives Romney wanted--taxcuts, profamily, prolife and conservative values.

Romney's record shows him to have fought hard for conservative values.

Dr. John Willke, a founder of the Pro Life Movement: "Unlike other candidates who only speak to the importance of confronting the major social issues of the day, Governor Romney has a record of action in defending life. Every decision he made as Governor was on the side of life.”

Romney pics re: homosexual activism
"Romney's record shows him to have fought hard for conservative values."

Romney twice sought and received the endorsement of the homosexual Log
Cabin Republican Club....
[pdf file:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/R omneyLogCabinLetter.pdf

Romney's campaign distributed pro-gay rights campaign literature
during Boston's "Gay Pride" events....
[pic:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/record/R omneyPrideFlier.jpg

Romney's Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth used huge taxpayer
funding to promote homosexuality in the public schools....
[pic:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/events05/youth_pride_052 105/comm_banner.jpg

Romney's Commission organized public gay "Youth Pride Day" parades and
"transgender proms" which promote unhealthy and risky behavior....
[pics:
http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/youth_pride_052105 /pride_banner.jpg
http://www.article8.org/docs/news_events/youth_pride_052105 /index.htm

Romney issues a proclamation celebrating gay "Youth Pride Day"....
[pdfs:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/events06/youthpride06/im ages/YouthPridePressRelease.pdf
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/GayYouth Proclamation.pdf

Romney's Department of Education promotes the homosexual agenda....
[pic of MA Dept. of Ed Commissioner
David Driscoll giving enthusiastic support to rally
http://www.massnews.com/2004_editions/05_may/051404_romney. htm

Romney had marriage licenses changed to allow same-sex marriages....
[pic:
http://www.massresistance.org/docs/marriage/romney/mass_mar riage_license.html

Romney signs bill eliminating Sexual Transmitted Disease (STD) testing
requirement for marriage....
[pdf:
http://www.mass.gov/Eeohhs2/docs/dph/vital_records/medcerts .pdf

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Jackson, Do Your Homework
Jackson, you are in serious need of a good education. Research the issues just a tad and you will discover that Romney has always used his executive priviledges to fight for the pro-life agenda and the protection of traditional marriage. He is the only credible GOP contender that has been married to the same woman for his entire life (one wife) and has proven through his successful children that he can run a family. How can someone who can't even run his own household be expected to run the country.

Get over your Romney hatred, tell the truth and get real.

sex-change check-off for drivers license
Romney appointed prominent homosexuals to key positions in his
administration....
These appointees aren't just "gay" people, they're committed
homosexual activists. Grabauskas, for example, had previously served
as head of the Registrar of Motor Vehicles where he instituted a
policy of placing a sex-change check-off box on drivers license
renewal forms. ....
[pic:
http://massresistance.org/docs/govt/license_renewal/

# of times Huckabee has been married?
"He is the only credible GOP contender that has been married to the same woman for his entire life (one wife) "

How many times has Huckabee been married?

////////////////////////////////////////
A Steadfast Conservative, Huckabee Can Win in Iowa
by Dick Morris
November 11, 2007
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/pol itical_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/a_steadfast_con servative_huckabee_can_win_in_iowa

details about Romney flip-flopping?
"You speak entirely about his past positions - does he still hold those same positions?"

I'm unsure. What do you know about Romney flip-flopping?

Romney videos on youtube
"For real facts, real data, real information, hop onto http://www.mittromney.com and read his speeches and official press releases. It is a whole different world from the angry one of Mr. J."

Romney videos on youtube
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=romney&search=Searc h

Do you think you'll be a god one day?
"The title is disrespectful of the Savior's sacred title."

Who is "the Savior"?

Do you think you'll be a god one day?

meh
only three of thous things i really care about. Gay marriage has absolutly no effect on me as i am not gay, i dont really care that he has a bunch of liberal programs passes when he was in office he may have not been able to veto him. i am not consered about the so called flip floping on abortion it is possible for people to change there minds. notice unlike kerry he has never said he was for whatever before he was against it.

Gregg Jackson
Honestly, Gregg - how can you look at yourself in the mirror when you intentionally distort and misrepresent facts to this degree?

Kevin McCullough already took you to task for your attacks on Romney and you had no backbone (or facts) to respond to him. He already illustrated how MassResistance, too, is a lying sack of @#$@!

You guys are pathetic. Get a life.

Romney...
...is a good man with much to recommend him as decent and smart. That does not make him a good choice for POTUS.

The President of the United States needs to understand and adhere to The U.S. Constitution. That seems simple enough. The sad reality is that Romney does not believe in, nor does he adhere strictly to the supreme law of the land. That fact alone make him a poor choice for POTUS.

Gregg Jackson & MassResistance
Obviously have a problem with their facts.

Kevin McCullough already took you to task for you blatent display of misinformation and you guys don't have the backbone (or facts) to respond.

You are a sorry bunch.

Here's the link

http://kevinmccullough.townhall.com/g/38698eb2-fcf5-4c3f-a1 f2-5ab4d9fb3400

There's Romney's real record. Why do you all have to lie so much when you attack Romney? Isn't truth supposed to stand on its own?



Gregg makes an excellent point though
No man, other than Jesus, can ever be the Saviour/Messiah!

svpallava
If you are trying to cite something about Romney's religion - you, too, are grossly inaccurate in your facts. Mormons do not claim to worship anyone other than Jesus as the Savior (not that I care - Romney's religion is a non-issue in this race.)

Mitt is an American
The line is being drawn in the sand . On this side truth ,justice , and the American way .On the other the father of lies and his followers .Anger and hate are really only fear of something. I wonder why Gregg Jackson is so afraid . Mitt supports civil rights and marriage between a man and a woman. I guess somethings are a bit too much for someone that is afraid to understand. Atheism is a religion ,they BELIEVE that when one dies that is it . Atheism is a BELIEF system also . It does not matter how smart you are, this is the truth .It does not matter how much you lie or talk or run or anything. If Mitt wins the White House you can write about him for 4 long years. You can invest the 30 pieces of silver and get richer. Look on the bright side , Mitt might be in office for 8 years .

Evangelicals for Mitt
Evangelicals for Mitt... check it out .Value Voters Summit voted 51 % for Mitt .Mitt has won all the straw polls .Mitt now has the endorsement of the California Republican Assembly... this week... WOW WOW .This is a huge win check it out .Also the Mitt Report site has the good , the bad , and the Gregg .

One point too many
I will admit to being a consistent, though not fanatical, supporter of Governor Romney. I've heard all the charges about bigotry against him but I tend to ignore most of them because those charges don't advance the discussion.

As I read the points that the "Romniacs" failed to refute I thought it was a fair list - until I got to point number 8. Bringing up the car-carrier on the roof episode from more than 2 decades ago is just plain petty. That took place back in a day when nobody thought twice about letting kids ride in the bed of a pickup truck.

Back in that time when we were not so paranoid about the comfort and safety of anything with a pulse his actions were hardly newsworthy. Was it good for the dog? No. Would Mitt do it again? I would hope not. Should every potential candidate be expected to be sensitive to the cultural norms of 20 years in the future? Certainly not. Bringing that topic up sure makes you look more bigoted then legitimately opposed to Mitt.

Mutt Is A Fake Conservative!
Mutt Romney has not been in the national long eye because he never took ANY publicly conservative stand on any issue before he decided to inflict himself on the voting public. His record in Mass is 100% liberal. He never opposed any liberal policy, he expanded government enormously and set the stage for total taxation. This Mutt is almost as liberal as Mike Huckster-Bee. UNKNOWN GOVERNORS SLITHERING THEIR WAY INTO THE WHITE HOUSE ALWAYS TURN OUT TO BE LIBERALS! CARTER,CLINTON,DUBYA.
Lets not make the same dumb mistake by believing this Mutt is a conservative.

Mean Spirited
Just plain mean man - whats wrong with you Jackson?

Mitt is the Man for '08
Mitt is a good Mormon and has been faitful to his Church; but are we really electing a Baptist (Clinton and Carter) or a Methodist (GWB), or a Jew (Joe Lieberman, or an Episcopalian (Geo Washington, GHWB, FDR or Gerald Ford) or a proto-communist (Hillary Rod-ham Rod-ham)? NO, we have elected and are going to elect a President.

Mitt is a PROVEN performer in both the public and private fields: No other candidate from EITHER party has the SUCCESSFUL executive experiences like Mitt. And he will out-debate Wide-load Rod-ham Rod-ham--if he can beat the arch-blue, dragon-fire Demoncrats from Taxachusetts, he can do it against Billary the Hildebeest! Supporters need to coalesce and bring this fine man to the WH--he will make the GOP proud and take away the Hillary evil machine's machinations. He is not perfect, but he is a lot better than all of the other candidates combined. Great looks, charisma, intellectual firepower, and business acumen. Too bad he is married, eh ladies?

De ja vu all over again??
Didn't this guy write the same column last week? It appears he just rearranged it with some cutting and pasting to make it "look" fresh.

He sounds like a bitter kid who didn't get invited to the party. I guess the Romney's didn't "play nice" with him... POOOR Gregg Jackson!

Try to come up with something fresh next week!

Mitt's qualification?
1. Great looks: True,(I guess?) but hardly an important qualification for the job. No doubt it could help him get elected, but it does not really impact his ability to restore our republic.
2. Charisma: (See #1)
3. Intellectual firepower: True, but unless that powerful intellect is directed away from statist solutioning, his impact as POTUS will be bad for our republic.
4. Business acumen: True, but again worthless unless used to reduce the size and cost of government.

The point is, none of the qualifications listed by Vin provide any reason to support Romney's campaign.

http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/
http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/

http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/
http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/

http://w3.newsmax.com/romney/
http://w3.newsmax.com/romney/

Romniacs?
Gregg, maybe if you identify the "Romniacs" you speak of, you would have more credibility. Who exactly is in this "lather?" If that's the case, I've yet to see it, just as I've yet to see Guiliani supporters "in a lather" over the Kerik scandal, etc...

Instead of using the liberal ploy of creating strawmen and then "valiantly" defeating them, stick to facts. You sound like Jon Elliott and Rhandi Rhodes...

Another unfair article.
1. Yes, before Romney was Governor they didn't have mandated health care. I have reservations about Romney's plan, but trying to get everyone insured is better then having the system taken over by the government entirely.

Same-sex marriage was forced upon the state from the States Supreme Court. Mitt Romney fought against the ruling as much as he could within the law, by trying to get a constitutional amendment passed. Mitt Romney also stopped Same-sex marriage from spreading across the country by enforcing an old law on the books dealing with other states recognition of marriages.

As to a Democrat being the next Governor. Romney made a mistake in who he propped up as his successor, as well as ticking off many of the liberals in the state. It isn't as if Romney wanted a Democrat to take over after him.

Overall I am surprised Romney managed to get elected and accomplish as much as he did in a state like Massachusetts.

2. Romney's record showed that he was for his promise that he wouldn't change the status quo of abortion laws. While governor he vetoed many bills that would have expanded abortion.

My impression is that Romney was personally against abortion, but was undecided on the legality of the issue. He admits that his previous views were wrong, and currently looks pro-life.

3. Romney vetoed many bills (many were overriden) on projects Romney thought were to expensive.

As to his health plan, I believe he designed it to work off of money in the current system that was previously being used inefficiently. Romney has plenty of experience fixing problems with budgets. However we will still have to see how it works.

4. In 1994 he was for anti discrimination laws against homosexuals, but he was never for what the gay-rights agenda has taken up today, which is same-sex marriage. He strongly believes in the sanctity of traditional marriage.

Another unfair article.
1. Yes, before Romney was Governor they didn't have mandated health care. I have reservations about Romney's plan, but trying to get everyone insured is better then having the system taken over by the government entirely.

Same-sex marriage was forced upon the state from the States Supreme Court. Mitt Romney fought against the ruling as much as he could within the law, by trying to get a constitutional amendment passed. Mitt Romney also stopped Same-sex marriage from spreading across the country by enforcing an old law on the books dealing with other states recognition of marriages.

As to a Democrat being the next Governor. Romney made a mistake in who he propped up as his successor, as well as ticking off many of the liberals in the state. It isn't as if Romney wanted a Democrat to take over after him.

Overall I am surprised Romney managed to get elected and accomplish as much as he did in a state like Massachusetts.

2. Romney's record showed that he was for his promise that he wouldn't change the status quo of abortion laws. While governor he vetoed many bills that would have expanded abortion.

My impression is that Romney was personally against abortion, but was undecided on the legality of the issue. He admits that his previous views were wrong, and currently looks pro-life.

3. Romney vetoed many bills (many were overriden) on projects Romney thought were to expensive.

As to his health plan, I believe he designed it to work off of money in the current system that was previously being used inefficiently. Romney has plenty of experience fixing problems with budgets. However we will still have to see how it works.

continued
4. In 1994 he was for anti discrimination laws against homosexuals, but he was never for what the gay-rights agenda has taken up today, which is same-sex marriage. He strongly believes in the sanctity of traditional marriage.

He ordered the change of marriage certificates because of the position the court had put the state government. Romney did not have the power to ignore the court's ruling legally.

As to wishing a Happy Pride day. I find it distasteful, but it sounds like the usual thing politians do.

5. Romney chose judges he thought would be able to be confimed by the congress. I will have to look into this further, but I suspect it's another unfair allegation. As to him violating the state constitution, it was the Supreme court who violated it. Once again you make it sound as if Romney wanted Same-sex marriage, because he didn't break the law.

6. Yes, Romney has been in favor of restricting assault weapons, and maintaining many of Massachusetts current gun laws.

He could do a lot better here, but he has never been in favor of banning private gun ownership.

7. Romney does come across as too polished, and he has changed some positions over time, most notibly abortion. I wouldn't call him a flip-flopper though. Although he does have a problem with other people seeing him that way.

8. This one is just silly.

Sorry for the double post.
I had to split my response into two pieces, and had some trouble with the site responding.

Jacksons laziness
Gosh Greg at least come up with more original material. Didn't we read this article a few weeks ago. So is this your new anti-Mitt tactic - to republish the same cheap shots well refuted and rebutted earlier inspite of Kevin McCullough telling you what a fool you are making of yourself.

Well, Gregg,
I think that Platinum did a pretty good job of shutting you down, don't you think?


Hawk @ 09:36
Although I am aware of Romney's mormonism, I wasn't making any issue of the religion. My comment is generic, "you can't expect ANY human to be the 'saviour' of your nation except for Jesus Himself".

Jackson's Articles
(All three of them) are all written to slam Romney...and each article posts the same bits of misinformation which "Romniacs" have supposedly not answered.

Doesn't this guy have anything better to do?

svpallava
Agreed. I didn't realize you were faulting Jackson (instead of Romney) for his use of the term.

Again for Hawk
I can actually prove through my voting record that religion is immaterial (however, CANDIDATES do matter):
(1) in 1984, I voted for a party with a (nominally) Catholic leader (Myron Baloney), in anger against another party with ultra-ultra-nominally Catholic erstwhile leader (Pierre-eh?). At that time, I was a Hindu
(2) 1993 (and still Hindu), voted for party (AFAIK, then local MP candidate, now incumbent MP--Diane Ablonczy--is Protestant) with Protestant (C&MA) leader (Preston Manning); this time in anger at Mulroney (for his TREASON AGAINST CANADA through 1990 Mooch Lake Accord attempt, not his religion)
(3) 2000 (now Protestant of C&MA), I voted again for Ablonczy (but party leader then Pentecostal pastor Stockwell Day); anger against Chretien (for what his NEP had done to Alberta, his nominal Catholicism irrelevant) still played a part.


interesting
Did Jackson just refer to himself in the third person while reposting his earlier attack column?

It is common for political advocates to point to compatriots to bolster support for their own view. But unless there are two Gregg Jacksons relevant to the debate, Jackson just pointed to himself as one of his outside authorities.

Liberal Stealth Project--Romney
I was a listener of Hugh Hewitt's program, quite trusting of a change in Mr. Romney's heart on the issue of abortion. He became my 3rd choice.

HOWEVER,

finding out on my own about Commonwealth Care, gay agenda zeal, gun control, and his overall love of all things liberal was such a shock I stayed awake all night.

Raising Romney's actual documented past is worthy of full review, before inviting him to go straight to the top of the Conservative movement. This is a "conversion" that needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt, folks! It is just too much to believe.

Look at the man himself.
http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=romneyrecord&p= r

Correction
1. Yes, before Romney was Governor they didn't have mandated health care.

Sorry Platinum and Gregg but prior to Romney, Mass. did have mandated health care. The problem was the mandate was free to those who received it. It cost the taxpayers millions of dollars to take care of uninsured people because of the MANDATE that all need to receive care regardless of their ability to pay.

Romney's plan tried to deal with the facts (data) that there were a number of people taking advantage of that mandate who had the ability to pay. The final result wasn't perfect, partly because no legislation is, because the democratic congress got their fingers into it. Results are only part of picture when someone is working in a hostile environment. (i.e. Republican Governor in a Democratic state)

I think the federalist stance of "each state should decide their own solution" that Romney is taking as a Presidential candidate shows that he understands the differences between Governor and POTUS. Others want to paint it as though he is distancing himself from his Mass. plan. Romney has done what he said he would do which is refreshing to see in politics. I'm more concerned in the candidates follow-through on promises than their personal opinions and biases.

More of the same...
Mormons! Mormons! Oh my! Just more of the same from Mr. Jackson. Nauvoo, Carthage, Johnson's army, and this assault now. All cut from the same bigoted cloth.
Substitute "Black" or "Jew" or "Hispanic" or especially "Muslim" for Mormon in this fellow's rants and he would have been pilloried long ago. Or he would have been decapitated, blown up with his family, or thrashed within an inch of his life by the latter.
Why bother to print anything this ankle biter says? No more for me. His name appears and I just put it in the bottom of the bird cage.

Jackson: What a jerk......

::::::::::::continued, what a jerk::::::::::::::::::

There is no way that any one would try to contend with so obvious a piece of dog manure. Arguments. He has none so why should I. Just pure trash writing.


Hillary's a woman! Romney's a Mormon!
And YEW are a bigot!

A real conservative woman AND/or Mormon, I would vote for, but these two are liberals.


Gregg Jackson commentary-
Does the fact that the last name "Jackson", and the all familiar word "Jerk", both being spelled with a "J" seem to have any symbolic reference here? I say yes. You make your own call.

You're in the twilight zone Jackson!

Jerry P.

Bigot? Part 1
The article makes the point that the word "Bigot" is tossed at many who are in opposition to Romney. Although the assertion that it is only a ploy to stop critical thought is laughable, and as I’ve seen, has been mostly applied to those who say they will not vote for a candidate based solely on their religion.

This brings up the question of what really merits being called a Bigot? Even as a Mormon, I wonder if it is being applied too loosely. In my mind, the religious views of the candidate can be a valid consideration of the candidate as it relates to their political ideology. If someone believes that someone’s religious views makes for a bad candidate, whether it be Evangelical, Mormon, Catholic, Jew, Moslem, Atheist, Wiccan, whatever, it is up to them. Whether that consideration is a result of an honest look at the candidate, ignorance, or of really being an intolerant bigot, I think it is their right, however informed or ignorant the reasons may be. I won’t get into the “religious test” clause as I have always interpreted that to mean whether the government allows a candidate to run or a person to be appointed in the first place, and not on how to vote. The flipside of not allowing religious views into consideration is that many people probably would vote for a candidate, all other things being equal, whose religious views are the same as their own. You can’t have one without the other.

Bigot? part 2
Although I agree its ok, I try not to do that myself. I am leaning Romney, but that is not because of our shared religion. Honestly, I had a hard time at first with what looked like excessive pandering and convenient conversion. After following him and the other candidates, I have come to believe that Romney is sincere, extremely capable, and more qualified than the other candidates. Contrary to the article above, anyone who takes an honest look at the whole record can easily come away with a strongly fiscal and social conservative picture of Governor Romney. I also like Huccabee, and I could easily support most of the GOP candidates if they become the nominee.

Thoughout my life, I’ve heard all kinds of disparaging things about my beliefs and can understand how some of us would get a bit riled up about some comments made regarding Romney and our religion. I also can see how people of other beliefs that see Romney’s qualifications and can’t understand how someone would not even look at those qualifications due to the religion. However, I do not know if responding with “bigot” is helping the discussion. Sometimes comments clearly are bigoted. Those comments should speak for themselves.

Romney's beliefs reflect his judgment.
A candidate's judgement and discernment is a relevant uusie as judgementis crucial to being an effective POTUS.

Therefore; I will not be frightened by the threat of Hillary into voting for a person
who believes he will enter the celestial kingdom and have his own planet and collect trophy wives.

I will not be frightened by the specter of Hillary into voting for someone who believes The Lord Jesus Christ was the spiritual brother of the fallen angel Lucifer, (Satan), a mere angel-(as opposed to God in the flesh) and who wears supernatural underwear to protect himself from evil, and who believes the Garden of Eden was in Missouri, and who disregards all relevant scientific data as to the age of the Earth.

I cannot vote for anyone whose religion teaches (or ever even hinted) that God curses people for dark skin and blesses them for having light skin-which HE (God) himself created.

I will not be frightened by Hillary into voting for a man who believes in the planet Kolog, the confabulations of the demented Joseph Smith, or the ridiculous belief that a race of supernatural beings called “Nephites” occupied the western United States contrary to all recorded history and the testimony of the best archeologists.

I will not be frightened by the threat of Hillary into voting for Mitt for the same reasons I would not vote for a Wiccan, a Voodoo practitioner, a Muslim, or a person who believes he has been abducted by Aliens.

Why? Because any man who could believe all this, and not intellectually question it
is not someone who has the judgment necessary to be President of this nation in a time of crisis. If that makes me a bigot,then so be it.

Read Walter Martin’s “Kingdom of the Cults for a revealing expose of this bizarre religion. See http://www.waltermartin.org/whatsnew.html








Cornpone's showing his ignorance
John K. Wise, Book review of Walter Martin, Kingdom of the Cults

http://www.fairlds.org/Reviews/Rvw01010.html


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