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Sunday, November 15, 2009
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
A Picture Can Lie
by George Will
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NEW YORK -- The 20th century was 100 years of amplitude. It overflowed with barbarous fighting faiths, wars enveloping continents, and graphic journalism assaulting global audiences with scenes of shocking immediacy. The Spanish Civil War, although small in terms of the number of combatants, was perhaps the century's emblematic conflict. As a rehearsal for the Second World War, Spain's agony became a proxy struggle between fascism and communism, with democracy crushed in the middle. And for perhaps the first time, pictures supplemented and sometimes supplanted words as primary shapers of opinion about a conflict.

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According to Robert Hughes, author of "The Shock of the New" (1980), during World War I's nation-shattering and culture-shredding carnage, no photograph of a dead soldier appeared in a German, French or British newspaper. But the Sept. 23, 1936, issue of the French magazine Vu published (as did Life magazine 10 months later) what became perhaps the century's iconic photograph -- "Falling Soldier." It was taken by, and launched the remarkable career of, a 22-year-old Hungarian refugee from fascism, photographer Robert Capa.

It supposedly shows a single figure, a loyalist -- that is, anti-fascist -- soldier, at the instant of death from a bullet fired by one of Franco's soldiers. The soldier is falling backward on a hillside, arms outstretched, his rifle being flung from his right hand. This was, surely, stunning testimony to photography's consciousness-raising and history-shaping truth-telling, the camera's indisputable accuracy, its irreducibly factual rendering of reality, its refutation of epistemological pessimism about achieving certainty based on what our eyes tell us.

Probably not. A dispute that has flared intermittently for more than 30 years has been fueled afresh, and perhaps settled, by a Spanish professor who has established that the photo could not have been taken when and where it reportedly was -- Sept. 5, 1936, near Cerro Muriano.

The photo was taken about 35 miles from there. The precise place has been determined by identifying the mountain range in the photo's background. The professor says there was no fighting near there at that time, and concludes that Capa staged the photo.

Could an alternative explanation be that a single fascist sniper fired the fatal shot while some loyalists were at rest? No. What was once thought to be blood spurting from the falling soldier's skull is actually a tassel on his cap. And Capa several times said the soldier was felled by machine-gun fire. In a slightly less dramatic photo of another falling soldier, taken by Capa at the same time -- the cloud configuration is the same as in "Falling Soldier" -- the soldier falls on the same spot.

In 1995, the controversy seemed to have been settled in Capa's favor when the fallen soldier supposedly was identified as Federico Borrell Garcia, an anarchist militiaman. But a 2007 Spanish documentary included a written eyewitness account of Borrell dying many miles away, behind a tree. There are no trees in the many pictures Capa took when he took "Falling Soldier."

The coolly analytic professionals at the International Center of Photography in midtown Manhattan, which has the Capa archives, are commendably dispassionate about the "Falling Soldier" controversy. They also avoid postmodern mush, such as: All photographs are manipulative fabrications because the photographer chooses to point the camera here and not there, and, anyway, "Falling Soldier" is "basically" truthful because it illustrates the "essential truth" about war.

Capa was a man of the left and "Falling Soldier" helped to alarm the world about fascism rampant. But noble purposes do not validate misrepresentations. Richard Whelan, Capa's biographer, calls it "trivializing" to insist on knowing whether this photo actually shows a soldier mortally wounded. Whelan says "the picture's greatness actually lies in its symbolic implications, not in its literal accuracy."

Rubbish. The picture's greatness evaporates if its veracity is fictitious. To argue otherwise is to endorse high-minded duplicity -- and to trivialize Capa, who saw a surfeit of 20th-century war and neither flinched from its horrors nor retreated into an "I am a camera" detachment. As a warning about well-meaning falsifications of history, "Falling Soldier" matters because Capa probably fabricated reality to serve what he called "concerned photography." But this, too, matters:

There was the integrity of constant bravery in Capa's life, which was a headlong rush toward danger. He arrived on Omaha Beach with the first soldiers early on June 6, 1944, and was only 40 in 1954 when, on the move with French troops in Vietnam, he stepped on a land mine.

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the ends don't justify the means...
whether a dying soldier or a polar bear on an iceberg, it's lying.

What's the Point?
Maybe the picture of Obama bowing to the Emperor was photo shopped.

And liars can use pictures
This remionds me of the famous photo of the Vietnam era showing a South Vietnamese officr putting a pistol to the head of a North Vietnam and pulling the trigger --- evidence of "cruelty" at the hands of the South Vietnamese and their allies (US). The picture is real.

What they don't tell you is that the guy being shot was being summarily executed as a spy. He was a North Vietnamese soldier (officer) in civilian clothing --- making him a spy. Summary courts martial and executions in the field have been carrioed out for centuries and are covered undr the Geneva Conventions. Bu tout marvelous liberal media had to make it otherwise.

Sky Pete...
You don't really want to go there do you? With Reuters and the AP publishing doctored photographs of events that allegedly took place in Lebanon yet did not?

Or how about the work NBC did with GM trucks? Staging an explosion to point out the danger these vehicles posed?

There isn't a major national news organization in the U.S. that hasn't been caught fabricating something in its history.

taking Capa's career into consideration
I find it very hard to believe that Capa would have staged an image in order to make a fairly obvious point about war. He was a man who saw more battle than many soldiers, and he went in without a means to defend himself.

If anyone wishes to impune his reputation, I think the critic ought to first look at this, his photos taken in the heat of battle on D-Day

http://www.skylighters.org/photos/robertcapa.html

This does not strike me as a man who would stage a cheezy 'moment of death' photo.

This is how FoxNews Was Born...


FoxNews has been caught faking old video clips as something new - several times already..


What is new about this?
A lot of the pictures the news media showed of Vietnam were staged. At least once the media was brought out to watch (and take pictures of) an artillery unit shooting. They reported it as a battle but no battle was going on. Most of their stories were written in a Siagon bar after pictures were provided by the Marines. This is no different. So why the surprise?

When a duck is not a duck
Great article. I learned a little today but what bothers me are the comments that disgrgard this history lesson and the lesson that the duck is not the duck just because we see a photo of a duck. Why can't you readers take the message for what it is and not infer a correlation to Obama? Obama would make Capa look minor league when it comes to photo ops like at Dover Delaware. I've said all along Obama is the new Fuehrer.

Aw, way to spoil my Monday morning
What! Are you telling me that left-wing reporters lie? Just to score cheap political points by manipulating emotions? Oh, George, say it ain’t so.

Come on Will!
Where's all the Obama bashing? Townhall readers can't get out of bed without a few hateful words about our president to inspire them.

To Osher
The "Dumbocrats" weren't the only ones who focused on what you call the Achilles' heel of the Republicans; the Republicans were guilty of doing the same thing. Rather than pick a more than qualified Mitt Romney (or other VP contenders), McCain went with the unknown Sarah Palin. McCain could have left Romney to appear on any TV program without having to worry about catastrophic media blunders. Insiders in both parties suggested that Palin brought some sort of sex appeal to the campaign while Romney's presidential-esque appearance made McCain appear less presidential. McCain appeared to give in to the pressure of picking Palin for her looks and fire. It was the Republican's fixation on a good "photo finish" that may have cost them a 12-16 year presidency. http://www.danbrewington.blogspot.com

"Pictures" of Presidential Debates
We're too Picture-Oriented as a nation. It's the opposite of most Books. The Entertainment Mafia and News Mafia that won the 2006 and 2008 Elections for the Dumbocrats focused on our Achilles heels of Picture-obsession. The Presidential Debates were actually "Beauty Contests" of a young Smiley-Face handsome "Nice Guy" (who of course after Election became an Inquisitor against the Constitution and Religion) and an older man who'd been through the mill including North Vietnamese captivity.

Isn't a "picture worth 1000 words"? Very, very rarely. A few good words are usually worth 1000 pictures or more. Books tend to free Wisdom from Emotion. Get rid of TV watching as a way of life except for a few channels like Military, History, Fox News (selectively, though).

Osher Doctorow

Reply to Ratpacker
O.K. I'll play along. Did you know ,Sally, really sells seashells down by the seashore? Look up in the sky it's a bird, it's a plane, It's a prototype of a bird. Did you know the moon really isn't made of,Brie, it's made of Mozzarella,and the Kentucky Derby really isn't a hat. The last one was for my friends working in the Louisville Slugger factory!You just gotta finger em out. Sorry my coded sequencer is only calibrated in nano seconds.

modern photo distortion
A tea party person with a gun. It was a black man, there as a guard, I believe. No head in photo. A distortion and lie by omission.
Typical. If there is any further effort to take guns away from law-abiding citizens, I will know, as if I don't know, now, what sort of people we have put in the white house, with their ilk. Every demagogue needs a scapegoat, and, here, it seems, we can demonize the rich. I am not rich, but many have gotten that way with honest 12 hour days, risk taking and being in America. In Venezuela, they continue to redistibute the wealth, by the government's guns. Now they have to ration electricity. Here, liberals, is your future. The health care bill is just a venue. Otherwise they would have tweaked what we have and cut waste, already.


Plato
came in at the end of his nation, and dribbled a bunch of post modern mush. He is hard to understand because he was a fool.

I guess a nation's life is coming to an end when such idiocy is taken seriously.

Just odd to see
Mr. Darcy
Location: WA
- 8:47 PM EST


What is it that makes cons like you so obssessed with people's behinds?
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Fascinating because so many of you idiots think that is the best place to put your heads

Public Option
cERB, under government controlled healthcare, before choosing to keep private insurance, anyone must first support the socialist/fascist program with his/her taxes. That is giving the government power over life and death for all but the "evil" rich.

This is the same way we gave government power to indoctrinate our children to all but the "evil" rich who can first support the socialist (government owned) schools with their taxes and still afford something else.

Also, all the other civilized Western Countries, including New Zealand, and also in Taiwan and Japan, people may have affordable government paid health care, but it is inferior to what we could have here just by removing all the fascist controls we have placed on ours.

Get a constitutional amendment before you cram socialist/fascist healthcare even further down my throat.

L to me
"What is it with keyboard tough guys like you who talk to strangers like this over the internet and would not do it to my face cause I would simply slap the pizz out of you and stick you head further up your aze than it already is "


What is it that makes cons like you so obssessed with people's behinds? About 70% of the insults I read on this site conjure up some kind of poster fantasy about rear ends.

You are really, really, icky, L.

George
Plato talked about Duality and the Shadow on the wall. You and most Intellectual know, that Truth exist in a Parallel Universe. Truth has the power to be truthful and inaccurate. In the War, you reference soldiers Died. Where they died and under what circumstances, is a matter of Accuracy? To argue accuracy, as a way of distorting fact conceals a false argument.

Hey, Marcia, you don't have to go to
Spanish Civil War.

The last conflict between Israel and Lebanon showed pix on Reuters of burned out buildings and then a pristine teddy bear placed in the foreground. That some child, of course a child, would have been in that deteriorated setting with a clean as new toy seemed unreasonable. It turned out it was. The photo was faked to generate angst against Israel for despoiling children's teddy bears in the conflict.

Another famous (infamous) Lebanon pix was one of a burned out ambulance that supposedly showed Israel attacked wounded civilians. It turned out the wrecked ambulance had been at that spot for a decade.

The left more and more uses ruses and fraud: see recent elections where suddenly *uncounted* votes are found in janitors' closets and trunks. Do Reps. ever win these?

In Dec., we'll be treated to the *Christmas* movie of a soldier who returns from Iraq to discover his wife was (maybe) unfaithful, so the soldier, natch, like all service people, goes berserk. Did we ever film the stereotypical nutty soldier in WW II? Never.

But it's not just the fakery. It's that Capra is an icon. His D-Day photo made the *1000-yard stare* a catch phrase. Now, the photog's rep. is shot.

Bork Congress. It wants to ruin your health. 202-224/225-3121.

JD, what a brutal image
Yesterday, I read the NYSlimes for the first time in years, and can report that the left (which thinks it is the center) also disparages the Big O and cronies:

1) he hasn't gotten out of the Middle East wars,

2) he hasn't closed Guantanamo,

3) he hasn't solved unemployment (the left cares about unemployment?),

but he has RIGHTED an enormous wrong perpetuated by that monster-for-all-purposes, Geo. Bush, by holding the idiot trials in NYC which, will, the Slimes says, renew the world's faith in our justice system and finally free those poor, illegally detained fighters who were illegally seized on battlefields where they fought US troops, and were then immorally incarcerated all this time despite the Const.

Shows you how skewed the Times is and why it can sell neither ads nor subscriptions. On the other hand, it also shows Big O is under fire from all angles.

Who's lying?
Bending the truth, misleading photos, false documents, etc. can and have been used by both the right and the left. But who does it more?
Saul Alinsky is the darling of the left, not the right.

Politics is dividing the country
Not the Constitution

There is no left wing Constitution and there is no right wing Constitution

They're On the List
Didn't we all hear the recorded telephone conversations made by the former NEA chairman to members of the arts and entertainment community, asking them to create audio and visual images to shape our minds on Obama's agenda?

And didn't we subsequently learn that this request was at the request of the white house?

When the revolution comes we must not neglect the artistic and cultural opinion makers, those Leni Riefenstahls, that have done so much damage to America. We must make works of art of them too and hang them next to other domestic enemies from trees, like so many decorations on our Christmas Trees.


True

If we are talking about flying and not a government.
The Government has been established long ago, it has no left and it has no right


Joycey
Location: OH
- 4:06 PM EST
L
Skousen does a beautiful job of explaining the right wing and left wing of an eagle. An eagle needs two strong wings to be an excellent flyer. Some men use reason and some use their heart. Every decision requires both. It didn't have anything to do with confiscating money from one person and handing it over to another. But how the rules of the game are made to make the game fair

So Capa was propagandizing for
the Communist side in Spanish Civil War. So where is the surprise here? Leftists lying. It's what they do. It's their nature. Like saying snakes crawl. Just look over the drivel posted here by Marcia from MA. Everything she has posted is an outrageous lie..not even subtle. I'd be surprised if that's even her name.

pb

Tito did not rule Czechoslovakia. He ruled the former YUGOSLAVIA.

And be used...at will.
the rest of the eddie adams' executioner's song.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=13104 0

assuming one gives a sheyot!

Amazing
that such a simple matter can get people so upset. The photos are faked, staged, whatever you want to call it and their value is lost. Truth matters.

Statism
In Spain it was two statist organizations fighting. The Fascists (in Italy Mussolini was the editor of a Socialist newspaper before he rose to power). Nazi is short for National Socialism. So the contest was not between people who favored representative government (there are no democracies) and those who favored authoritarian regimes. Of course, the Communists are surely statists (Socialists). So, to my way of thinking, it was a war between two groups of leftists or statists. Perhaps the Loyalists were in favor of elected government, but the fact that the USSR backed them should tell one something.
Donald W. Bales

Marcia MA

It was not a lie. You ought to try looking at this stuff before you make a comment.

LOOK IT UP YOUTUBE

The video WAS EDITED to Not show a Black Man with the rifle. MSNBC asserted that it was an Angry White Male.

Your Beloved TEDDY in Arlington, Now THATS a Lie, Marcia!

Will is subtly making
2 important points. First, pictures can lie, and by extension, best to be suspicious of any sensory input. And second, people cheat. And liberals cheat when they think the end justifies the means.

And some good news. Kool Kash Jefferson got the slammer for x number of years. :-D And so he joins the illustrious crew of felons elected by liberal low lifes to represent them. Alcee Hastings, Marion Barry et al. Is it too much to hope that Barry will someday be part of the group?

not at all irrelevant
What is the relevance of a staged photo by a leftist made famous many years ago?

Well: The single biggest argument of the "global warming" gang was the "hockey stick" graph of Dr. Mann, which showed basically steady average temps from A.D. 1000 through 1900, and then steadily rising temps thereafter. It has been conclusively shown that this graph is totally bogus; Mann's methodology would produce a "hockey stick" even with purely random numbers put into it. And since Mann severely resisted letting other scientists see his data and his methodology, we can be sure he knew it was bogus.

Note the parallel: Just as Capa's photo was a lie, Mann's graph was a lie. Both were used by the left to advance their cause. That's the relevance of this old photo -- it shows the historical radical dishonesty of the left.

pb is right!
pb

"I visited both Spain & The Czech Republic in '98. My lasting impression was that Spain, under Franco, fared much better than Czechoslovakia under Tito."

Darn right!

Another rightie liar
The Gimlet Eye
Wag the Photo
Interesting. But this is all standard procedure for Leftists, always has been."

You are a BIG FAT LIAR.


Bush and NoAfghanistan
FourDoorNews.com

"Afganistan that we cannot take out for some never discussed reason.

Oh, it's been discussed a lot and what happened is that after being in Afghanistan for awhile decided that stealing Iraq's oil was more interesting and so he pretty much forgot all about Afghanistan.

He spend $3 TRILLION on his war based on lies in Iraq while ignoring the country where Osama bin Laden and his terrorist friends lived.

You don't know that? Where were you when it was all happening? With your fingers in your ears?

Not Tito.
I know, I know. But the same gang.

lies
Awlhattin O'Kaddle


"Will's story brings to mind the recent MSNBC 'Doctoring' a TownHall Attendee carrying an AR-15.

Yes that was a lie: it wasn't doctored. And since when have you righties objected to pictures of you and your beloved weapons of death?

Not only pictures can lie: so can words
Righties know everything there is about lying.

They have made it an artform that they use to harm America.

Bush paid his pals to pretend they were journalists and got them jobs in what is supposed to be the free press.


And they used OUR MONEY to shill their far right propaganda.

They used it not only in America but also in Irasq to spread what Bush called his "catapulted propaganda".

He was admitting that it was all lies!

Gregpry @ #68
I visited both Spain & The Czech Republic in '98. My lasting impression was that Spain, under Franco, fared much better than Czechoslovakia under Tito.

Paleocon @ #65
I intended that your presumption may have been that I needed the lecture.

I enjoy Will, but I regard him only as the master of the 'book report' -- which is all we ever get from him. Not unlike Obama, his skills are rhetorical, and when you attempt to pin either of them down, they flit away like butterflies.

Will I sleep sounder tonight knowing Will has written a 'book report' reviewing the history of the controversy surrounding this photograph? Neither will I toss and turn on the question of whether the 'Mona Lisa' was pregnant.

L
Skousen does a beautiful job of explaining the right wing and left wing of an eagle. An eagle needs two strong wings to be an excellent flyer. Some men use reason and some use their heart. Every decision requires both. It didn't have anything to do with confiscating money from one person and handing it over to another. But how the rules of the game are made to make the game fair.

My son had lunch and interviewed
a 90 year old WWII vet on Thursday. Mr. Gray. He was one of the first on the beach at Normandy. He made a huge impression on my son. Thank God for our Vets.

Accuracy and Truth Matter
Which is why it bears remembering that Franco was in no sense at all a fascist in the same sense as Hitler or Mussolini.

Franco returned to his country initially to stop the purge of the Catholic Church by combined anarchist and Communists who were well along in their proto-Stalinist project by 1936. Most Americans were gulled by agitprop such as Capa's; but there were no pictures documenting the fate of the 6,832 Catholic priests and religious (including 283 nuns) who were murdered or raped/murdered in the Communist/anarchist purges, most of it within a period of six months. Perhaps world sympathies would have been slightly more divided had the truth been known about the real motive behind much of the violence. One would like to think that an anti-Catholic purge would not come to be so romanticized.

Symbolism Over Substance
The left is still more concerned with ideology and symbolism over substance. Fourteen lives (if you count the unborn baby) were snuffed out and idiots were spouting that damage to diversity caused by this would be worse than the loss of innocent life. Reality counts.

The Constitution of all Socialists
Is Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

This is their foundation for all forms of socialism, which is the method for putting a few men over the masses.

Does not matter if we speak of Europe or Cuba, Russia or China, they are all what is called the left.

Under the America form of Government there is no left or right forms of the Republic, as it is the same Constitutional Republic for all men.

That is what was striven for with these words.

Preamble to the US Constitution

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


"in order to form a more perfect union"

The democrats and some republicans are forming division, not Union, and Obama is dividing this country worse than any time since the Civil War with his push for control over all the rest of us

pb
You may be right. I'd rather be tedious or presumptuous than overlook important details or settle into apathy. If I've gone overboard, I apologize to everyone on the thread.

You're undeniably correct on two points. First, I do see something in Capa's picture -- an emotional appeal that should be reviewed now and then in the light of reason. This image, like Eddie Adams' photo of summary execution, is always news because the Left never stops waving it around. Second, I do see something in Mr. Will and his columns. That's why I read them more often than not. I can't imagine why else anyone would spend time here.

Photography is Still an Art
While there is undeniably a science of photography, the science is mainly employed to make the art flourish.

This emphasizes the often overlooked point that the agenda and perspective of the actor are as important as the subject matter, or at least, how the subject matter eventually gets presented to the public.

The agenda influence the perspective and the perspectie depends on the angle taken to produce the photograph.

Just as you cannot take as gospel anything and everything that is in print, you cannot take as depiction of reality everything that is presented in picture.

Reality is susciptible to being manipulated by technology, and art is an able accomplice for the effective distortion of reality.

So what you eventually believe really depends on the principles that govern how your soul operates.

Who said otherwise?
Mr. Darcy
- 1:45 PM EST
L
There are literally hundreds of communist, fascist and socialist political parties in Europe, South America, and Asia. As far as I know, most of them aren't killing anybody.
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But they do not hold the reins of the State you blithering idiot.

One man does or a group of men do working together to control the people.



Mr. Darcy writes:
What is it about facts and detail that run conservative blowhards off of the rails?
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What is it with keyboard tough guys like you who talk to strangers like this over the internet and would not do it to my face cause I would simply slap the pizz out of you and stick you head further up your aze than it already is

Idiots are here
The haters come to attack posters with insults, this fool is another moron like cERB


Mr. Darcy
Location: WA
- 1:43 PM EST
Michael
Do you get your information from comic books?

L
There are literally hundreds of communist, fascist and socialist political parties in Europe, South America, and Asia. As far as I know, most of them aren't killing anybody.

What is it about facts and detail that run conservative blowhards off of the rails?

cERB
Shut up or contribute to the article and stop with you attacks at posters, you frickin moron

Michael
Do you get your information from comic books?

Every country in the world that we call civilized has government health care, I don't see leg irons and collars on Swedes, French, Taiwanese or Germans. Also, they have a better rate of longevity, infant mortality, and health in general.

As for lumping all the broad dictatorships you can think of into one solid definition of "communism", defined by one characteristic, maybe you should start reading the words that go with the pictures.

Gee, I'd love to hear you describe Nazism, as one of those conservative fascist governments who pretended that they weren't in total control. (And didn't kill anybody in their rise to power). Also, Stroessner, Pinochet and Trujillo.


Amendment Thirteen
Michael, not only is there is an element in our nation that longs for the return of slavery, we already have it. As Thomas Sowell has expressed, forcing A to pay the bills for B causes A to be the involuntary servant and/or the permanent part-time slave of B.

Who is to blame? "We, the sheeple" decided around 1900 to degenerate from a successful republic (government of laws) into a "wonderful" democracy (tyranny of the majority), and the best organized mob in our de-mob-ocracy voted for what we got.

No matter what form
Or name a Marxist Government calls itself, be it even Democrat or Republic, all are defined by the complete subjection of the people to the powers of State.

The best way to understand the differences in the Governments of Red China, Communist Russia, Fascist Italy or Communist Cuba is to simply read what the men at the top believed.
Because all the men at the top define what their systems were and the differences.

All the differences of every Marxist nation is defined by the ONE man who wields all the power of the State.

Want to know what Communist Government was like in Russia, read up on the men Lenin and Stalin.

Want to see how it changed over the years, read up on the men who came to power over the State.

Read the life and sayings of Ho Chi Minh and see what that Communist Government in Vietnam was by the man himself.

Same thing with Cuba, North Korea, Red China, Russia etc.

The men at the top define their States having all the power over the people by incorporation all powers of State under his control.

EXACTLY WHAT OBAMA IS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING HERE

Michael
If any one chooses to keep private insurance, how is giving the government power over life an death possible?

Also, in all civilised Western Countries, including New Zealand, and also in Taiwan and Japan, people have affordable government paid health care, and no one has complained yet about being forced to die.

Do some research before you pass on what you think are facts.

Joseph
There are some differences between fascism and communism. The primary difference is the means of production under fascism is owned by private parties but is controlled by the state which also controls that private ownership. Under communism there is no pretense of private ownership the state both owns and controls the means of production including the human component of that production. Both are slave states where freedom only exists for those of the ruling class. In both cases those who are the most brutal and blood thirsty in the political structure usually end up in charge either by murdering those in the old power structure as in the cases of Mao, Pol Pot or Chavez or by murdering their way to the top killing those above them as in the case of Stalin and his successors. The two are incompatible because communism makes a show of it's slaves being in control and fascism make a show of private ownership existing. Both are relatives who you can't invite to a wedding because they will always fight but they are related by blood and slavery.

Re: poorgrandchild.com
Sadly, there are those in both our major parties and all of the smaller leftist parties who seem to desire slavery for everybody but themselves. I don't know if it's a power madness or just plain insanity. But there is an element in our nation that longs for the return of slavery and will do anything to once again own human beings. They claim they want insure good medical service but giving the government the power to decide if you live or die seems to be a very short road to an iron collar and leg irons and the lash. After all, the ability to control you by threatening your life haven't we in fact become slaves to a power elite?

Paleocon @ #6
Good post, tho' a bit presumptuous.

If Will's sole intent here is to play choirmaster, then he hits a rather sour note with "its irreducibly factual rendering of reality, its refutation of epistemological pessimism about achieving certainty based on what our eyes tell us."

But then perhaps you see something in Will that others of us do not, as you do the photo. Perhaps, too much.

A picture can be worth a thousand words, but the reverse is not always the case.

high-minded duplicity
Yep, liberals endorse it. Low-minded, mid-minded, and no-minded as well. Liberals lie. It's what they do.

(And to summarize the liberal response:

"And this is news because?"

"This is old news."

"Yawn."

and if they can work it in, "LOL".)

no irony at all
in the fact that Mr. Capa perished in Viet Nam, fourteen-ish years before this Eddie Adams photo was "shot."



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Control Freaks Unanimous
Joseph, I do not know how they do it, but the left wing (socialists) sometimes sees a distinction between how good they are and how bad the right wing (fascists) are. They saw how evil Hitler was and totally embraced "Uncle Joe" Stalin.

I agree that both are evil and really just the left and right wings of Control Freaks Unanimous. In this country, we have voted for a combination of both.

What's the point? (Douglas, Comment 30)
There is a direct propaganda value to the photo, since it gives the viewer a uniquely intimate relationship with the suffering of one side. Rationally, the viewer knows that both sides are being killed, but emotionally, the viewer cannot help but feel a link with the poor fighter who lost his life "before our very eyes".

Thanks to George Will for this. Yes, it's a diversion, but we need some of that these days.

Joseph
You are right

Fascism is leftist politics, handing the State powers over banking, manufacturing and such as the left is doing here illegally today in America.

A Constitutional Republic, SEPARATING powers, not incorporating powers as all other forms of government do.

The left/right is psychology of division.

There are only two forms of Government, no matter what they are called.

A Government that controls the people, or a people that control the Government.

America was different than any other system of the word simply because here, the people controlled the government.

Now the enemies among us such as this socialist Obama, are incorporating powers under his control.

Its up to all of us if we are going to allow him to take our rights, and Americans have fallen into immorality and are already subjects to bondage, but not all of us thank God.


The "left" and "fascism"?
In your column, you say "Capa was a man of the left and 'Falling Soldier' helped to alarm the world about fascism rampant." But, fascism, I thought, was a left ideology, that is, the spectrum from the center in a leftward direction would be center, left, fascism, socialism, and finally one of the forms of communisum. So, if Capa were "left-leaning," and I have my definitions straight, why would he want to "alarm the world" about the next leftward step?

Thanks, George
...for an article that spurred such incisive comments.
Especially "ScottK" (12.44am) and "Paleocon" (4.38am).

Pistol
"Are those happy moonbeams doing any of this, do you think? Or are they relying on promises of dollars from Uncle Sugar. One can not eat dollars, only what they buy, and i don't think that will be much."

True Mastercard Marxists are undoubtedly looking out for their own interests. I can't imagine that the Kennedys, for example, will suffer much unless a mob overruns and loots their Hyannisport compound while they're in it.

Rank-and-file moonbeams, however, are about as sophisticated (and doomed) as those Detroiters who lined up for "Obama money" a few weeks ago. They really don't know where wealth comes from, and they expect the gummint to take care of their mortgages, car payments, healthcare, and whatnot.

Anyway, winning ugly is still winning. And you're right, Tebow is a once-a-generation player.

Loved your post
Joe
Location: AR
- 10:51 AM EST

I am also a Veteran of that Era, and served under both Kennedy and Johnson and watched what the press did to our Military through the 60's and have got worse and worse since those horrible days of promoting their own agenda's.

Take My Lai for instance, all agree it was a terrible result of the non-conventioal war they put our Military in, LIKE TODAY.

“Only the United States of America would not cover it up, would prosecute it at the cost of losing a war, and would use it so forcefully to prevent future incidents.”


Essence of introductory remarks given by Belgium Host prior to a presentation entitled “Difficulties in Prosecuting Battlefield Offenses: My Lai Example” during a Congress of the International Society for Military Law and The Law of War in Brussels, Belgium on May 31, 1991.

And the Communists caused 10,000 My Lai's and none of the "anti"-war people was heard to make a peep.

Not then, and not till this very day have we heard a word from such as Jane Fonda.

I see the same thing today with such a Ali Ghrahib Prison.

3-4 people were guilty of shaming the prisoners and themselves, and everyone in America is at fault.

The islamics can murder people all over the world and some here in our own nation say we cannot blame anyone but the persons responsible.

The press is the most disgusting bunch of hypocrites this world has ever seen

Joe
You raise a very important point: coverage of the Vietnam war was one of the worst examples of journalistic malpractice in history. The NVA/VC committed Geneva Convention violations beyond reckoning, not the least of which was torturing clearly protected POWs. But the press turned _us_ into incorrigible war criminals. The Tet offensive was a major victory for our side. But the press turned it into a defeat.

Paleocon
Lack of relevancy is the single biggest destroyer of liberal moonbeam credibility. Not a one posting, but still doesn't rely on the 2 wrongs makes our guy right as an argument. Discussion becomes impossible, comparison of the merits of various possibilities holds no interest for those of the left. Because of the practical advantages of predicting the future with some semblance of accuracy, i enjoy discussing possibilities. Right now i'm trying to put my assets in areas that will look good oncoming inflation and international devaluation of the dollar. Are those happy moonbeams doing any of this, do you think? Or are they relying on promises of dollars from Uncle Sugar. One can not eat dollars, only what they buy, and i don't think that will be much.

The Gators win ugly again. Spurrier is not the sweetest guy in the world, but he produces some dangerous football teams. Tebow is something. He should have been awarded the Heisman last year, and he showed up the guy who won it something fierce. He should get it again. I hope he is not prone to concussion like what ended Troy Aikman's career.

Actually
A lie can be told about a picture

Paleocon responses
I appreciate the accuracy of Paleocon in his posts. So different from 1960 republican, whom i am sure has never been a republican or conservative of any decade. I had leaned republican since the election of 1952 even though I was nine years from voting age. I became a confirmed republican on that day in October of 1964, when the company commander gathered the exec and all the platoon leaders in a formal meeting and ordered us to go to the polls and vote for Lyndon Johnson to save us from the war. His family was very wealthy and he had achieved standing as "gentleman" long before being annointed by congress. He was a Citadel grad. He was RA. He was Airborne Infantry. He was a Fulbright/Oxford scholar. He was wildly popular in the democrat social circuit of DC at that time. With all of his pedigrees, he had no idea that he had just violated his office and his oath. On the "fast track to Flag Rank" (democrats were busy installing moles in the military long before it became common knowldege in 2003)he could not stand the shame brought upon him by LBJ's expansion of the Viet Nam war and he resigned his commission in protest (actually it was more in cowardice)in 1966. He became a petty aide on several liberal politicians staffs and gardually disappeared because he had no war record to exploit. All of my experiences with reporters and phographers in their alleged coverage of the military was marked by repeated acts of fraud. I always cite this small fact for liberals: All of the booby taps and mines used by the NVA/VC were illegal by Geneva standards. The media have never did and never shall call for sanctions or prosecutuion though there more than one million infractions. The IED and other bombings by Moslems are all in violation of the Geneva accords. Please look at the record and you will find media have yet to observe this truth.

Scooter
Thanks. As a perpetual student (and inept practitioner) of photography, I'm continually struck by the mutifacetedness of a plain still shot. I can't count the times I've looked at one of my own photographs and seen something new, forgotten, enlightening, embarrassing, alarming, or completely unexpected.

The photojournalist has to contend with at least five different images:

* What the eye sees

* What the eye sees though the viewfinder

* What comes out of the camera

* What comes out of the darkroom

* The edited, printed product in grayscale or color

Each of them has its own set of issues. Each has its own limits and biases, intentional or unintentional, examined or not.

It's hard enough to create an accurate, credible record of rapidly unfolding events in the face of such boggling complexity. Staging; darkroom trickery; manipulative enhancement, cropping, and placement; and digital legerdemain destroy what little accuracy and credibility remains. Unfortunately, few journalists care much about either anymore.

Herman
WWII was a hollywood production?
Tell that to the people who survived the camps of Bataan and Auschwitz.
Sorry, but that is an inane comment. The world unfortunately is full of horrors you would deny (from your mom's basement no doubt)?
You are a typical lefty apparently who just denies anything that can't be blamed on America.
You ilk partied and doped and protested til we pulled out of Viet Nam, then said not a word about the bloodbath that ensued.
Shame on you.

Pictures
The picture in question was made for fame and fortune by Capa and the left media of the time used it to dupe (maybe not intentionally) and certainly manipulate public opinion. One has to be extremely wary and skeptical of this kind of deception; it can have grave consequences on our freedoms (eroded as they already are).

Paleocon @ #9 reply...
Your response to 1960 Repub is most accurate and thank you. As in photos, half truths simply put play on the senses of the uneducated as to the agenda of the suthor or photographer.

As a student of photo journalism many years ago we were constantly sent to the alter of truth in what the photo was to represent. I used the camera for forenzics, capturing of information that must never be slanted in one direction or the other.

The implications and accuracy should stand the test of time, and rightfully so will be challenged.

Photos can lie, depending on the agenda and the dishonest holder of the camera.

Photography as art is not seen with a steely eye. Stageing something to promote a cause is worthy of condemnation and removing any creditably from the shooter.

And Herman was a part.........
.....a part of the production crew.
You F'in idiot.

Fake photo?
So what? World War Two was largely a Hollywood production. Rated R for horror.

Before the Doctors Came
I bought a re-published collection of old Civil War photographs. Some may have been propaganda, but this was probably early enough in the art where imaginations hadn't soiled the process.

Interesting article, though: Will does a good job of separating the dual nature of his subject. In every man there is good; in every man there is evil - (except in our _resident, who has embraced evil to a degree that he has become wholly and completely mad.)

Photo Image
I remember seeing that picture when I was ten years old. Don't know why but I thought it was posed. I also saw a picture taken in Greece during the German invasion. It did not depict a death, just a bunch of Greeks "fighting" in the mountains. In the caption under the picture the words (I paraphrase) "Note the blurry picture caused by extremem cold." I thought then that it was not true about the temperature. I also saw a newsreel clip on the TV on the Island of Pelelu. An officer is directing his men when he was struck in the head with a bullet, his helmet flew off and he collapsed to the ground. I still wonder how (if it indeed did) got past the censor. A twenty something shot in the head and killed would never be shown today.

Photos lie - and video
Wasn't there a scandal of film footage of a naval battle in the Spanish-American War that was revealed years later to have been filmed in a tub with models?

The ease of photomanipulation of digital images is why police departments still use film for evidence photos.

And, surveillance videos operating at night often take only a few frames per second - and a lot can happen in between those frames.

What was the point of Capa's photo?
Given that it was staged, how did it make propaganda for the Republican side in Spain's Civil War? A soldier falling in battle in the midst of a war is a neutral fact. Real propaganda would have been, for example, "executed" civilians. There was enough of that on both sides so that both sides could have used the same fake photo. As for the famous shot-to-the-head photo in Vietnam: there were many people executed by the Communists, with, presumably no photographs taken of the act, so that gullible leftists could assume that the only brutality was on the South Vietnamese side.

Doctored pictures
Is it true that the "picture" is fake of the beautiful landscape of the portion of ANWR that had been set aside for oil drilling? Did a picture of a different place help keep us dependent on our enemies for oil?

Do the ends ever justify the means?

Mediocre
My degree is in photography and cinema. I have seen the photo hundreds of times. Whether it is faked or not does not matter to me. It always looked fake and I never thought it was much of a photo. I never understood all the hype in the first place.

Different approaches to disaster
In Spain, fascism and communism fought, "with democracy crushed in the middle."

In America, we degenerated from a republic into a "wonderful" democracy (tyranny of the majority) and then voted for some socialism (government owned schools, etc) and some fascism (government controlled businesses, etc.)

God save our republic.

blogs
Interesting reactions to the article. Liberals get angry but dont understand the article. Conservaives get George'e point. So whats new?

THE BIG PICTURE
THE REALLY BIG PICTURE:
American citizens are missing the Really Big Picture. In 'Fundamentally Transforming the United States of America', the entire World will be 'Fundamentally Transformed'.
The radical agenda of those currently in Power World-Wide is the establishment of a Global Government in which they are the Leaders.
There will no longer be OUR Constitution or Bill of Rights to protect US, We the People of America from the dictates and laws of Global Rule.

Ray
It does seem like a waste of a lot of time in this short life to spend it on such a trivial matter. On the other hand, perhaps it was just something he/she enjoyed doing. I appreciate the efforts because the results were interesting and amused me for a few minutes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1201116/H ow-Capas-camera-does-lie-The-photographic-proof-iconic-Fall ing-Soldier-image-staged.html

Now I'm going to clean out my garage. It wouldn't really matter much if I didn't do it, but I'll probably find several things that I've been wondering where they were.

what is the matter, Anthony


is it that you can't handle the truth?

PS There were no M-16's in 1954 to be accurate. The French would not have been using an American weapon anyway.

Thanks George

for something useful. I wondered about that picture every time I saw it. How in the world did the photographer get himself in position to take that shot? What are the odds? A guy running forward suddenly shot in the head stays upright for a nano second and the sound hasn't arrived yet!

I love urban legends explained away.

Freeze Frame
Wow! Like darkroom hokus pokus is something new. You know ,George, it's amasing you still get paid for writing such dribble. Next you'll be telling us all those train and bus incidents on the internet really happened. I see how you think it's a Greek tragedy when a person steps on a land mine toting a 35mm but screw the guy with the m-16 covering his pansy tail. Keep slinging those 2 dollar words, makes the schlock you write seem more accurate. Just a suggestion.

POPPIES IN AFGAN. AINT THE PROBLEM,..
MORON!!!.http://dannygetyourguns.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx
THIS IS THE ANSWER.

Must Have Been A Slow Newsday!
George with all that's going on in the US and the World today, how did you ever come up with this story? But if it's true that someone has spent more than 30 years researching the background of the photo, then they are more pathetic than you are. Why don't you look into the mating habits of the Africa dung beetle or something more interesting?

PIstol
Good morning. I see that the Gators are still undefeated. Alas, the Terrapins are as feckless as ever.

Rather's insistence that his story is true nothwithstanding the falsity of his documents shows what passes for thought, discourse, and journalism these days. It also misses a point as glaringly obvious as the fakery that did him in: those documents weren't mere support for his story; they _were_ the story. Without them, Rather's narrative ceased to exist in the real world. Only in the Neighborhood of Make Believe, where he lives and works, does he still have a compelling point to make.

In that alien place, not only truth, but also relevancy itself are irrelevant. Say something about the healthcare takeover, and some Leftie will start shouting "Halliburton!" I keep thinking back to a CNN interview in 2000. Anthony Summers was making the rounds in support of _The Arrogance of Power_, a hit piece that accused Richard Nixon of drug abuse and wife-beating. Joie Chen uncharacteristically asked two good questions, "Why Nixon and why now?" Caught off guard, Summers blurted out that people needed to know whom they were voting for. Nixon wasn't on the ballot in 2000, of course. In fact, he'd been dead for six years.





To the left
the ends justify any means. After all, the purity of the leftist agenda must triumph.

Reponse to Paleocon
Yes. What is not true will decay from within. The individual perspectives as to truth will support or not. We look to the vote as the arbiter. There have been times in our history when voting integrity has been severely compromised at the local and state level. This is a new time with a greater threat to affect voting integrity on a national scale. It is imperative that we impede this threat. If compromised voting integrity succeeds, our hope for a return to true freedom is that turning back to our original constitutional principles may morph into a form of government to cope with the evolutionary realities of much faster change in life-style behavior and fractured indvidual perspective. If our freedom is lost, the required freedom governance may be a very, very long time in coming. Geoff

A lesson.
If you believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see you will be closer to the truth than those who believe otherwise. Now you know!

Hannity's slipping in the wrong footage
of a previous Tea Party on his show is another great example of what George Will is writing about today. Of course it didn't take 30 plus years to expose it. Just a teenage intern on the Daily Show busted him on that one.

The Truth
Evil is the presentation in whatever form of something that is not. Evil is to prey on the emotions of the observer with intent to deceive. It is distressing that it took this photo truth 73 years to to be unveiled. However, the stream of events that followed presented a greater truth and it is that truth in the profoundest sense that prevailed. I think the photo "story" is a cautionary tale similar to the 640,339 jobs saved by the Obama Administration's stimulus package. Actual reality will be its own repudiation of the lie. Geoff

It's a Lie
Same situation as with Jason Blair. No, photographers must not stage events. Thanks, Mr. Will, for bringing this to our attention.

Paleocon
brings up the subject of Rather's faked document claiming Bush ducked out of his NG duty. When he was proved to be touting a fake, he said it didn't matter, Bush did it anyway. This makes Rather no better than an LE officer who plants evidence to convict a suspect he is sure is guilty. It is very difficult to make decisions based on incoming news. Almost never is it completely accurate. There has got to be an integration process, a prioritizing of information, the constant application of Occam's Razor, with always the thought in the back of the mind that hoof beats usually do mean horses, but nontheless, zebras exist. The invention of the printing press made it possible to lie to millions. For a while, pictures had more credibility than the printed word, but it turns out photographers can be liars too. The flag raising on Iwo Jima was staged, though symbolic of the real event. Life is one constant task of separating the sh1t from the peanut butter.

I remember that photograph...
...very well from my youth,ten years after the Spanish civil war.Will is correct.It is a striking photograph,regardless if it was faked or real.If there is a name for it,look it up on the internet.

1960Republican
Your choice of image raises an important point: not only can pictures lie; they can never tell the whole truth.

Adams' Pulitzer-winning photograph was taken during the Tet offensive, which Vietcong and North Vietnamese regulars launched during a holiday truce. Brig. Gen. Nguyen Ngoc Loan was the national police chief of South Vietnam. The man in custody was suspected of having just been involved in torturing and murdering the family of the general's colleague, the police chief of Saigon.

Was the general's act premature? Yes. Evidently there was little effort to question the suspected guerrilla before the general shot him. His exact identity remains in doubt.

Was it a war crime? Perhaps. Note that the man is not in uniform. If he was an enemy combatant who had committed atrocities against civilians, he had no rights under the Geneva Convention, and he could've been shot with little ceremony.

Is Adams' photograph an accurate record of events? Certainly, as far as it goes. At least one film confirms its accuracy. But is it a _complete_ record of events? Hardly. If you doubt me, weigh carefully the photographer's own words: "Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation."




Images.
Yeahbut, Eddie Adam's photo of General Nguyan, pointing his little pistol at the head of the Viet Cong officer, looks pretty real.

The one I've always wondered about is Benjamin West's painting, "The Death of General Wolfe."

Maybe next, Geroge Will can point out an investigation of the crucifix.

If the photo was
fabricated he's a scumbag. Which word understand not you?

pb
Leftists fit Churchill's immortal definition of fanatics: they can't change their minds and won't change the subject. They're still hauling out Capa's photograph and doctoring new images for their dark purposes. (Now they have Adobe Photoshop, Corel Photo Paint, Paintshop Pro, and other tools never dreamed of in Capa's day.) They're still insisting that Sacco and Vanzetti were innocent, that the New Deal saved us from the Depression, that Alger Hiss was a scapegoat, that the Rosenbergs were patriots, that missile defense can never work, that Iraq wanted only to buy sand from Niger, that Cubans are better off than Americans, that "Bush lied and people died," that Dan Rather's falsified memoranda were "essentially" true, and so on without end.

Leftists will never shut up about any of this. If you came out of cryogenic storage after a 500-year nap, they'd still be screaming that Khalid Sheik Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times. (The CIA says he cracked after one session. KSM himself boasts that he endured five.) So it's the onerous duty of all who oppose them to keep on interrupting their cant with facts and reason -- forever. We must do this not to convince them, but to prevent them from deceiving anyone else.

Sure glad...
... they've got this settled. I'll sleep better tonight. Thanks, George.

Yawn.

Wanted, picture of all Poppy Fields in
Afganistan that we cannot take out for some never discussed reason. Also it would be nice to have a photo of the wheel barrows full of cash going to The Talaban.

Don Jones

No, George...

Pictures do not lie... photographers do.

Cheers.



Wag the Photo
Interesting. But this is all standard procedure for Leftists, always has been. They have never been interested in the truth (I can hear Lenin sneering at me from the depths of Hell for saying this). They are shamless, notorious liars who have simply followed in the footsteps of every dictator who ever came along whom they fancied as a mentor. The only thing they thirst for is RAW POWER. They lie and obfuscate every day about everything in the mainstream newsmedia by the sins of commission and omission. They are involved in a giant cover-up for all Democratic party hacks and have been for years. A little creative photography goes a long way to further a cause. Remember Wag the Dog? That's the way it is.

Lefist Media

"the pictures greatness, actually lies
in its symbolic implications, not in
its literal accuracy."

Will's story brings to mind the recent MSNBC 'Doctoring' of a TownHall Attendee carrying an AR-15. I suppose Chris Matthews would say, it didn't matter that MSNBC tried to hide the fact that the man was black. It was the symbolic implication, you see?
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