Townhall.com, Where Your Opinion Counts
Talk Radio:   Bill Bennett   Mike Gallagher   Dennis Prager   Michael Medved   Hugh Hewitt   
BREAKING NEWS  LeftArrow - Townhall.com : Conservative, Political, Republican   RightArrow - Townhall.com : Conservative, Political, Republican  
Columns, funnies & more in your inbox!
  • Check the boxes and send us your email address to receveive your free newsletter
  • Your daily must-read of conservative columns, cartoons and news. Coulter, Sowell, Krauthammer and more.
  • Townhall.com’s weekly inside scoop on what’s happening behind the scenes in the world of politics. When news breaks, we report.
  • Signup to receive the latest daily Townhall cartoons
Tuesday, June 30, 2009
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
A 'Fix' We'll Likely Regret
by George Will
Vote on It:
Average Vote:
[+] Text [-]
 
Poll
Will the Dems' health care Christmas Present to America be an improvement or detriment to our health care system?


WASHINGTON -- "In the beginning," says a character in a Peter De Vries novel, "the earth was without form and void. Why didn't they leave well enough alone?" When Washington is finished improving health care, Americans may be asking the same thing. Certainly the debate will compel them to think more clearly about this subject.

Most Americans do want different health care: They want 2009 medicine at 1960 prices. Americans spent much less on health care in 1960 (5 percent of GDP as opposed to 18 percent now). They also spent much less -- nothing, in fact -- on computers, cell phones and cable and satellite television.

Your next car can cost less if you forgo GPS, satellite radio, antilock brakes, power steering, power windows and air conditioning. You can shop for such a car at your local Studebaker, Hudson, Nash, Packard and DeSoto dealers.

The president says his health plan is responsive "to all those families who now spend more on health care than housing or food." Well. The Hudson Institute's Betsy McCaughey, writing in The American Spectator, says that in 1960 the average American household spent 53 percent of its disposable income on food, housing, energy and health care. Today the portion of income consumed by those four has barely changed -- 55 percent. But the health care component has increased while the other three combined have decreased. This is partly because as societies become richer, they spend more on health care -- and symphonies, universities, museums, etc.

It is also because health care is increasingly competent. When the first baby boomers, whose aging is driving health care spending, were born in 1946, many American hospitals' principal expense was clean linen. This was long before MRIs, CAT scans and the rest of the diagnostic and therapeutic arsenal that modern medicine deploys.

In a survey released in April by NPR, the Kaiser Family Foundation and Harvard, only 6 percent of Americans said they were willing to spend more than $200 a month on health care, and the price must fall to $100 a month before a majority are willing to pay it. But according to Grace-Marie Turner of the Galen Institute, Americans already are paying an average of $400 a month.

Most Americans do not know this because the cost of their care is hidden. Only 9 percent buy health coverage individually, and $84 of every $100 spent on health care is spent by someone (an employer, insurance company or government) other than recipients of the care. Those who get insurance as untaxed compensation from employers have no occasion to compute or confront the size of that benefit. But it is part of the price their employers pay for their work.

The president says the health care market "has not worked perfectly." Indeed. Only God, supposedly, and Wrigley Field, actually, are perfect. Anyway, given the heavy presence of government dollars (46 percent of health care dollars) and regulations, the market, such as it is, is hardly free to work.

As market enthusiasts, conservatives should stop warning that the president's reforms will result in health care "rationing." Every product, from a jelly doughnut to a jumbo jet, is rationed -- by price or by politics. The conservative's task is to explain why price is preferable. The answer is that prices produce a rational allocation of scarce resources.

Regarding reform, conservatives are accused of being a party of "no." Fine. That is an indispensable word in politics because most new ideas are false and mischievous. Furthermore, the First Amendment's lovely first five words ("Congress shall make no law") set the negative tone of the Bill of Rights, which is a list of government behaviors, from establishing religion to conducting unreasonable searches, to which the Constitution says: No.

The president may have been too clever when he decided, during an economic crisis that was sending federal expenditures soaring and revenues plummeting, to push the entire liberal agenda on the premise that every item on it is essential to combating the crisis.

Now the health care debate is coming to a boil just as public anxiety about the deficit is, too. As cost estimates pass the $1 trillion mark, the administration is reduced to talking about financing its reforms with mini-measures such as a 3 cent tax on sugary sodas. The public, its attention riveted by the fiscal train wreck of trillion-dollar deficits for the foreseeable future, may be coming to the conclusion that we should leave bad enough alone.

Share:
Vote on It:
Average Vote:
 
About The Author
George F. Will is a 1976 Pulitzer Prize winner whose columns are syndicated in more than 400 magazines and newspapers worldwide.
 
TOWNHALL DAILY: Be the first to read George Will's column. Sign up today and receive Townhall.com daily lineup delivered each morning to your inbox.
Not so fast George
I appreciate Mr. Will's concerns about components of the Obama plan.

But he will have to do a much better job analyzing the cost issue.

I have an individual example involving my Mom, but it represents the same predicament for huge percentages of Americans.

She suffered a debilitating illness and was basically incapacitated for the last 6 plus years of her life.

In 1997, her care cost $30,000 of which we had to pay half.

By 2003, her care cost $60,000 EVEN THOUGH SHE RECEIVED THE SAME CARE. Again, we paid half. Contrary to Mr. Will's insinuations, there were no new inventions or new services that explain this increase.

And this same dramatic increase has continued from 2003 to the present. The MRIs and CAT scans Will talks about were invented decades ago and cannot explain these increases.

I don't know where the extra $30,000 we paid went, but it did NOT go to the health care workers who were actually doing the work, nor do I see how a free market or government interference caused it.

It is my feeling that there are serious problems withing the "private" insurance industry.

But at the very least, Mr. Will is wrong. These huge increases are NOT due to increased services, or market forces.

Lord Acton
Power corrupts, that's the reason for our problems. Humans are fallen creatures who think they can "fix" things with the wave of a federally-subsidized wand.


Thankfully, there are still places where serious and informed discourse takes place regarding issues such as universal health care.

The Acton Institute is such a place. You HAVE to read more about it here: http://robbymoeller.blogspot.com/2009/06/my-week-with-acto n.html

"No" to Messiahcare
Will makes an important observation -- that we spend more on healthcare now than in the past, but we also get much more. The American healthcare system has given the world advances in drugs, diagnostics and procedures that allow millions across the globe to live longer and healthier. But, of course, innovation costs money.

If we go to Messiahcare, the state-run system envisioned by Obama, innovation will stop because it is expensive. State-run systems kill off investment and innovation, as has been shown time after time in other countries foolish enough to try it. State-run systems are so burdened with "free" services and bureaucratic red tape that they merely ration the sub-standard services available.

It would not only be Americans that lose under Messiahcare, but indeed, the rest of world would be deprived of advancements in modern medicine that we currently produce.

Proud liberal
And other statist control freaks, will continue to trust a body of men that have consistently sacked every "trust" fund that they have ever set up just because they dress it up in flowery terms like savings, trust fund, blah,blah,blah...

You lefties are an excercise in hilarity. You will believe anything about anyone based on an initial (D or R) after their family name on a TV screen. We have 530 thieves mixed in with 5 real patriots in the District of Corruption but you guys keep looking to men of the same stripe to deliver Utopia to your insignificant lives. Friggin faries1

Take My Liberty, I Want Goodies!!
"As market enthusiasts, conservatives should stop warning that the president's reforms will result in health care "rationing." Every product, from a jelly doughnut to a jumbo jet, is rationed -- by price or by politics."

Sure, and conservatives should stop warning about about losing liberty because all choices are made by someone, either you or the government.

If people don't understand that

a) liberty is practical and moral, and

b) that government control is the antithesis of liberty and hence, is both impractical and immoral,

then you can be sure that you'll get nowhere arguing that market prices can do a better job than a bureaucrat.

Fact: People will enthusiastically surrender any liberty if they can get "free" goodies no matter how much money is stolen from them to pay for the free goodies.

Liberty means nothing to the majority of people which is why tyrants all endorse "majority rule".

Obamacare, Cap and Trade, rationing and regimentation are now inevitable so just sit back and figure out what chains go best with your clothes.

O
I give no credence to anyone on TH who uses words such as "gouge, greed, big pharma," and other lingo of the left. I immediately suspect that you have issues with anger and that you suffer from class envy--that you weren't smart or ambitious enough to get through medical or law school.

We have the best doctors in the world, because so many of our brightest and best go into medicine. Take away the ability of these bright men and women to be rewarded for their excellence and we will fall into mediocrity.

The doctors in my family practice good preventive behavior, as do their families, but when illness strikes, they prescribe for themselves, and their family members the drugs that work--not because they are in the pockets of "Big Pharma," but because so many miracle drugs have been developed and they save millions of lives each year.

Too many health care reformers aren't looking so much for solutions to help people pay for high quality medical care as to punish the rich or anyone who makes a profit. They should have the bumper sticker: "TRICKLE UP POVERTY

Proud Liberal
"Bottom Line is: allocation of scarce health care resources is driven by the demand of the providers rather than the receivers of health care."
Is it your contention that health care receivers do not want cutting edge procedures and the latest technology as a part of their treatment? Are you out of your mind? As a cancer patient, I want the latest and the greatest of any treatment I get. Pet scans to determine the size and location of the tumors. The latest drug to treat the cancer because it has been proven to be more effective. I had an aunt who died a time ago suffering from the same type of cancer I have. She was bedridden in a hospice under heavy morphine sedation because the pain was so severe.
I, on the other hand, have been treated regularly with a drug infusion that strengthens the bones and restricts the pain. So much in fact, that I am able to teach my Fitness classes every week. A far cry from what my aunt experienced just a few short years ago.
The other cancer drugs I receive have only been on the market for four years and have proven to be much more effective in treating the cancer tumors. As a health care receiver, I don't give a rat's patootie if it is the health care providers who were behind the drive for better treatment. I want it!
Which brings up another point. Do people realize that the treatments we receive for many once debilitating diseases now allow us to remain productive, keep our jobs and contribute to society instead of being a continuing burden? That is huge factor in so many ways and it is probably not even considered when we are calculating the costs versus the effectiveness of the treatments we receive.
Bottom Line, Proud Liberal, under the heading of truth in advertising you should add this caveat with your handle: "Proud Liberal with Lobotomy." And the lobotomy should be performed with prices and proceedures from the 1960's.

A life is worth . . . ?
Lets' align the maximum possible malpractice dollar award with what we can reasonably spend - and do - in public dollars to save that life. (Yes, in spite of Obamas big tort backers and John Edwards theatrics.)

How much less would insurance cost?

If You Care
about your country please go to a tea party this coming weekend

Staffing, Career demographics:
Have been directly involved in Health care for 40 years.
Some observations:
- A major part of continuing Nurse shortage is Pre-complete-Career Burnout. Many Nurses do not complete 30 years. Also, contributing is the fact that the majority of nurses are female and demographically/statistically often make life choices that curtail a 30 year career. Presently, demand for nurses is high, with good pay opportunities.. Should salaries decrease, the Burnout factor will increase as will career "options".

An additional observation: as the demand goes up for health care providers.. there appears to be a speeding up of the Educational Process.. Great Doctors/Nurses/RN's/PA's /LVLPN's/CNA's are out there.But so are more "speedy" trained less great..to some extent due to an ever increasingly less well educated High School Pool.

Universal Health Care will not resolve these problems..but, rather will probably make them worse. Really talented youth will need an extra measure of altruism to compensate for the decreasing pay spiral and increased work load brought by Universal care... Would predict....You will "See" a "Nurse" -Not... that uses a computer model to "triage" your care..make a computer model cost prediction and direct you to pills or "doctor's helper".

Serious stuff will be rationed and waited for and diagnosis will be the casuality of symptom treatment.

A Fix We'll Regret...BIG time!
I’m certainly for taking responsibility for my own health and believe in the choice of healthcare versus the government mandated, ram it down your throat kind but some major changes are needed. For one, pharmaceutical companies need to be reigned-in big time in the way they peddle their poisons and gouge the public. Next, the freeloading deadwood insurance sector with questionable value-added contributions needs to be eliminated or at least shrunk to a reasonable level. We must also find a better process/mechanism that tamps down the greed from the medical establishment and the spiraling costs (other than the insurance quagmire). The medicos need to spend at least 50% of their efforts on prevention and not primarily in treating symptoms with the poisons of their buddies in the pharma industry. The process must be simplified so these rip-off artists don’t find 101 ways to gouge you and everyone knows up-front what they are getting into. In my opinion, the biggest problem is greed followed by a confusing (purposeful?) process. Doctors, like lawyers need to be taken down a peg or two; they are not, repeat NOT, the demigods they make themselves out to be and the dupes who believe it!

1 in 2 dollars earned goes to tax
I am blown away by the fact that Obama will cite the fact that we spend almost "one in five dollars on health care" but completely ignore the fact that a middle-class person like myself spends one out of every TWO dollars in taxes! (Income tax, property tax, sales tax, gas tax, etc.) His solution to my financial situation (as if I asked for his help) is to raise my taxes even further (cap and tax, etc.)

Bottom Line
The way I measure this new boondoggle we are about to have thrust upon us by the socialist Democrat congress is if they and Obama are for it...it cannot be good for us citizens. Nothing they have done so far is...why should this be any different?

PL
You missed Will's point entirely. His poin was whether we want priceing to reflect the scarcity of Health Care, or unelected bureaucrats. He is also correct in stating the huge hidden costs of employer provisioned health care. I may spend $4000 a year in premiums, but my employer also kicks in $12000, which it does because that $12000 is tax detuctible off the top of his revenues.

This hidden feature is most apparent in nations where health care is free. In those nations, price doesn't reflect scarcity, but health care rationing sure does.

President Obama wishes to take our current employer provisioned health care and make it government provisioned. Instead of high premium costs paid out by private individuals and corporations, rationing will be used to reduce expenses.

America's new PRISON healthcare...
Here is what America will get for her money! http://theblacksphere.net/site/obamacare-america-gets-new- proctologist/

At least one guy can make us laugh about it! Have FUN!

PL
Check out the following from the Calgary Herald:

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Health/Private+clinic+eroding+ health+care+critics/1739105/story.html

and tell me: Why is this group of Canadians so desperate to have private health care, if the government model is so d@mn fantastic?

Probably just more conservative propaganda.

allocation of health resources
Will does bring up a point that almost 100% of the pundits are afraid to touch, which is that the major problem with health care is who makes and how do they make the decisions about the allocation of scarce resources.

But I'm not sure Will understands the issue he brings up very well. For instance, if the leader of the medical community in a certain area is a cardiologist it's dimes to donuts that the local hospital will have invested in a large cardiology suite as opposed to other possible investments. If the leader is an ENT doctor the local hospital will be heavily invested in that specialty.

Specialties influence numerous decisions in the allocation of resources. Many physicians prefer to work in cutting edge, more interesting research and practice areas. It is the demand of new physicians for both interesting career paths and for lucrative career paths that drives much of health care investment.

Bottom line is: allocation of scarce health care resources is driven by the demand of the providers rather than the receivers of health care.

It Is Really A Simple Issue
When you pay for something, anything, and you make the rationing decision you have the most cost effective system, because when each person does that, prices are affected by the choices we make. But that only works, when we have to pay for what we want or need. But when someone else pays, we do not have to make that rationing decision and we will use the service or buy the product because we don't have to make that rationing decision. When we do not make that rationing decision, and use the service regardless of what the cost is, you have no effective way to control prices, and prices will rise.

Right Makes Right
Now, RMR, you may know lots of Canadians and English and Hong Kongers, etc. I don't know. But in the absence of that information I think you are probably a victim of conservative propaganda. I had occasion to speak with some Canadians during my last year's vacation about their opinion of their health system and they all liked it just fine. Ditto when I've talked to British.

There was an excellent article in the opinion section of the Denver Post a few weeks ago from a woman who'd spent her first 35 years of life in Canada and the next 15 in the U.S., with family still in Canada, and so is someone who is intimately acquainted with both the Canadian System of Health Care and the American System of Health Care.

Again, RMR, I'd take a skeptical look at your sources concerning Canadian health care, if I were you.

No to allocation by price
Rational allocation in free market theory theorizes that there is total transparency between the consumer and the owner of scarce resources, i.e., all the middle-men are merely messengers. In health care the middle-men are doctors, hospitals and particularly insurance companies, all of whom tell the consumer what he can and cannot do. You can't walk into your doctor and get him to take out your good appendix just because you are willing to pay him to do it.

Will's postulates in this dissertation are just plain silly.

healthcare
The USA has the best healthcare in the world! But the liberals want to destroy it and make our healthcare no better than that of any other 3rd world country.

Under Obama's plan, Medicare will disappear and all the elderly on it will have to join Obama's plan. That's like going from the frying pan into the fire.

Lon
Were you born oblivious to the truth or do you just work at it?

And still waiting...
...to read from the extremists who fantasize about "free" health care: What are the legal, constitutional, moral and ethical bases for using Big Government coercion to force the labor of some, the resources of some others, and the monies of The People in order to provide health care for a few others?

If Medicare and Medicaid are so wonderful, why do the politicos in Washington almost every session declare they need to be fixed? And why are the lefties so fixated on Big Government "fixes" to so many "problems"?

From an old cliche' "take care of the little things (yourselves, for example), and the big things take care of themselves."

Running On a Fast Track
I am amazed watching "The Obama Express" literailing down the tracks. Even more amazing is watching what it "picks up" along the way. Just this past week we saw Health Care and Cap and Trade get aboard without so much as a slow down.

So here we go again. Massive spending propositions. The administration doesn't seem to "know" just how much and to go to what.

Sometimes I just don't get it. They claim to want to "cut costs" for health care. Why is it going to "cost" so much to do so?
Just a thought........

Doctors for nothin’, pills for free
This column is so right on the money. Medical care costs what it does, in large part, because it is capable of so much more now than in the past.

A generation ago, my father’s enlarged heart condition would have killed him. Today, three years after having a pacemaker/defib unit implanted, he is chugging right along, making plans to call bingo on his 100th birthday in 2034. That progress costs something to someone, a fact that seems lost on all the Obamunists who subscribe to the fairy dust theory of economics.

After all, public subsidies don’t really cost anyone any money, do they? And your doctor should be overjoyed to work for the same pay as the guy who fills potholes on your street. Anyway, why should the pharmaceuticals look to recoup the hundreds of millions they spend developing life-saving drugs – I mean, the money’s already spent, right?

Oh wait, none of that works in the reality occupied by most of us. Now we gotta choose – hmm, save lives or stay within budget. Of course, their solution would have been to have a bureaucracy decide whether Dad was “worthy” of having his life extended. Pardon me, Obamunists, but I don’t recall signing up for a game of Russian roulette.

Our message is simple: Keep your hands off my doctor!

Riiiiight, Lon
That would explain the flood of Canadians pouring over the border to get “simple” procedures done to enhance their quality of life; procedures that for some mysterious reason are either not available at home, or require a preposterous investment of time on a waiting list.

2009 health care...
... at 1960 prices -- best summary i've read on why we ain't gonna get what we want. George Will is the best conservative writer going (though when he does the Sunday morning TV rounds, he really HAS to get a better wig).


One can see his point
After all when the government proposed Social Security and later Medicare there were Cassandras who tried to warn us that these programs would be seen as mistakes. And now these programs are seen for the errors they were. Or more accurately they are so popular that even Republicans walk with care in suggesting they should be slightly trimmed (and in fact the last Republican president added a drug program onto it).

But the fact that preditions like Will's have been consistently wrong in the past doesn't give us reason to think this one will. Oh wait yes it does, that is how reason works, one looks to the past to make predictions about the future. Countries that have expanded health care have never decided it was a mistake and tried to take it back.

We could get 2009 healthcare
for 1969 prices, if government would remove all the taxes from it.

Comments
See my comments under Sowell's and Schafly's articles.

One of the best
that Will has written. Too many people think that someone else is supposed to pay for their health care.

For our money...

To Forget the Lawyers
The social parasites(opps, that's my term for lawyers) have also driven up the cost of healthcare.

Its Economics
Mr Will is quite correct, the basic problem with health care is the economic issue. Of course we can afford health care at the expense of something else. Basic economics 101, allocation of scarce resources that have alternate uses.

How many people are willing to give up cell phone, their cable TV, satellite radio to pay for their health care? Not many.

The next question is what level of care can/should be provided? You will often hear the argument made that "its only fair" that because a procedure is available, then why can't evenyone have it. That argument doesn't hold water any more than why everyone can't have 10,000 sq ft houses and all the cars they want.

A large percentage of health care cost occur at the end of life. Needlessly prolonging the inevidable. Money spent there could be better spent somewhere else. Again, the economic reality of allocation of scarce resources.
Sign Up to Post Your CommentsSign Up to Post Your Comments
If you are already registered, click here to login. Otherwise, please take a few seconds to register with Townhall.com. Once you sign up, you’ll be able to post your comments immediately, use the action center, get podcasts, and more!
Note: Fields marked with a red asterisk (*) are required.
Salutation:
First Name:
*
Last Name:
*
Email:
*
Nickname:
*
Note: Nick name will be shown when you post comments.
Address 1:
*
Address 2:
City:
*
State:
*
Zip:
*
Phone:
      
Your daily must-read of conservative columns, cartoons and news. Coulter, Sowell, Krauthammer and more.
(Bi-Weekly) We highlight the best opportunities from our partners for surveys, action items and more.