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Thursday, February 26, 2009
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
Bon Appetit
by George Will
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WASHINGTON -- Put down that cheeseburger and listen up: If food has become what sex was a generation ago -- the intimidatingly intelligent Mary Eberstadt says it has -- then a cheeseburger is akin to adultery, or worse. As eating has become highly charged with moral judgments, sex has become notably less so, and Eberstadt, a fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, thinks these trends involving two primal appetites are related.

In a Policy Review essay "Is Food the New Sex?" -- it has a section titled "Broccoli, pornography, and Kant" -- she notes that for the first time ever, most people in advanced nations "are more or less free to have all the sex and food they want." One might think, she says, either that food and sex would both be pursued with an ardor heedless of consequences, or that both would be subjected to analogous codes constraining consumption. The opposite has happened -- mindful eating and mindless sex.

Imagine, says Eberstadt, a 30-year-old Betty in 1958, and her 30-year-old granddaughter Jennifer today. Betty's kitchen is replete with things -- red meat, dairy products, refined sugars, etc. -- that nutritionists now instruct us to minimize. She serves meat from her freezer, accompanied by this and that from jars. If she serves anything "fresh," it would be a potato. If she thinks about food, she thinks only about what she enjoys, not what she, and everyone else, ought to eat.

Jennifer pays close attention to food, about which she has strong opinions. She eats neither red meat nor endangered fish, buys "organic" meat and produce, fresh fruits and vegetables, and has only ice in her freezer. These choices are, for her, matters of right and wrong. Regarding food, writes Eberstadt, Jennifer exemplifies Immanuel Kant's Categorical Imperative: She acts according to rules she thinks are universally valid and should be universally embraced.

Betty would be baffled by draping moral abstractions over food, a mere matter of personal taste. Regarding sex, however, she had her Categorical Imperative -- the 1950s' encompassing sexual ethic that proscribed almost all sex outside of marriage. Jennifer is a Whole Foods Woman, an apostle of thoroughly thought-out eating. She bristles with judgments -- moral as well as nutritional -- about eating, but is essentially laissez-faire about sex.

In 50 years, Eberstadt writes, for many people "the moral poles of sex and food have been reversed." Today, there is, concerning food, "a level of metaphysical attentiveness" previously invested in sex; there are more "schismatic differences" about food than about (other) religions.

If food is the new sex, Eberstadt asks, "where does that leave sex?" She says it leaves much of sex dumbed-down -- junk sex akin to junk food. It also leaves sexual attitudes poised for a reversal. Since Betty's era, abundant research has demonstrated that diet can have potent effects, beneficial or injurious. Now, says Eberstadt, an empirical record is being assembled about the societal costs of laissez-faire sex.

Eberstadt says two generations of "social science replete with studies, surveys and regression analyses galore" have produced clear findings: "The sexual revolution -- meaning the widespread extension of sex outside of marriage and frequently outside commitment of any kind -- has had negative effects on many people, chiefly the most vulnerable; and it has also had clear financial costs to society at large."

In 1965, the Moynihan Report sounded an alarm about 23.6 percent of African-American children born out of wedlock. Today the figure for the entire American population is 38.5 percent, and 70.7 percent for African-Americans. To that, add AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases, and the unquantifiable coarsening of the culture and devaluing of personal intimacy.

Today "the all-you-can-eat buffet" is stigmatized and the "sexual smorgasbord" is not. Eberstadt's surmise about a society "puritanical about food, and licentious about sex" is this: "The rules being drawn around food receive some force from the fact that people are uncomfortable with how far the sexual revolution has gone -- and not knowing what to do about it, they turn for increasing consolation to mining morality out of what they eat."

Perhaps. Stigmas are compasses, pointing toward society's sense of its prerequisites for self-protection. Furthermore, as increasing numbers of people are led to a materialist understanding of life -- who say not that "I have a body" but that "I am a body" -- society becomes more obsessive about the body's maintenance. Alas, expiration is written into the leases we have on our bodies, so bon appetit.

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Explanation
It's easy to explain modern food fetishes: Have you seen how many fat people are walking around? It's the old, I-don't-want-to-be-like-that mentality.

Regarding sex, the mystical quality disappeared because moderns generally do not subscribe to mysteries anymore. As science sheds more knowledge on biology, what was once considered magical is now mechanical. How do you assign morality to a machine?

A new ethics is needed
Uh, Mr. Will, laissez-faire is French for "hands off" :) I think you meant "libertine."

Interesting observations, and this is just more proof that Kant's deontological ethics--which are necessarily entailed by his false subjectivist epistemology--are invalid.

If people knew how to take an objectivist approach--the idea that the objective purpose of one's activities should be the maintenance and furtherance of one's life, with all the myriad implications and corollaries of that premise--then they would be far more rational about their consumption and sexual habits.

I'm surprised is no analysis of smoking
Like the question, "Do you smoke after sex?

Answer: "I never get that hot."

Answer : " You know, I never looked."
Yup, trading food for smoking is a plus. The key is having sex and eating at the same time. My wife eats an apple. She used to do the crossword.

Mr. Will
May I steal this line from you?

"who say not that "I have a body" but that "I am a body"


Bon Appetit!
I like this article George, but Mary Eberstadt come on, we're an obese society who watches the occasional porn and engages mindlessly in junk sex. So what, We're exactly where we're supposed to be, it's all part of the "pursuit" of Mr. happy.
Hey Mary, let me get a lap dance babe, I just cashed in what's left of my 401k to pay of my mortgage, and I got a couple a bucks left, I'm a responsible homeowner, I need stimulus baby, hook a brova up, will you.

Well...
How about this: you eat well, your bodily functions stay in working order, you have sex; you eat like crap, get fat, and you neither feel like sex nor does anyone want to engage you in the activity. That's the blunt, biology-driven answer. Not so difficult, is it?

Old people cluck about the young people having sex, being preoccupied with sex. Well, despite their clucking, they did too when they were young. Their bodies just don't feel that way any more (with exceptions, and with ED drugs.) And they fail to remember, just don't want to remember.

Personally, I think the misuse of the body either way is a sin. Moderation and careful attention should be paid to what God gave us as gifts, not mindless gluttony nor impersonal licentiousness.

Of course, if you don't believe in God, you can just obey your animal instincts - which is what the researcher missed in her observations.

Missing this, she also misses a valuable observation: the way you treat a gift says a lot about what you think about the Giver.

None.
Perhaps Mary Eberstadt is carrying this job-creation thing a bit too far. The same might be true for Will's job-rentention.

Accordingly, these type things will likely continue, under Obama.

The new commandments
Oh come on. The Ten Commandments needed to be replaced so that people can still feel moral in this new era.
The government is the lord thy god.
Do not take the name of Obama in vain.
Keep holy election day.
Honor union members.
Thou shalt not eat junk food.
Thou shalt recycle.
Thou shalt not be judgmental.
etc.

Mr. Will:
“Furthermore, as increasing numbers of people are led to a materialist understanding of life -- who say not that "I have a body" but that "I am a body" -- society becomes more obsessive about the body's maintenance.”

Or could it be that “I” am a particular human brain that exists within a particular human body, both of which have been built from information stored in my DNA – a particular combination of DNA resulting from the union of a DNA carrying sperm from my father and a DNA carrying egg from my mother - and modified by an enormous amount of experience?

What if the noun “person” and the “personal pronouns” “I” and “me” that we have been taught to use in its place turn out to be merely linguistic inventions that refer to nonexistent entities - “persons” – which were designed by human brains who were – unfortunately - unable to correctly identify themselves as actually being human brains?

We know that human language is a human brain phenomenon. A human brain is able to produce and understand human language using specific areas of cerebral cortex usually located in its left hemisphere. Strokes or other damage in particular cortical areas cause impairment or loss of the ability to produce and understand spoken or written language or both. Precisely which linguistic abilities are impaired or lost and to what degree depends upon the exact location and extent of the brain damage.

If “I” am actually a particular human brain that is continuous with a spinal cord and intimately connected through nerves to all of the organs and other parts of the body in which I live, what does that tell me about the world and surrounding universe? Or about the existence and possible nature of a “Higher Power” or a “Supreme Being”? Perhaps I am left with only "shock and awe" and the wonder of it all.

chew on this.
Is the argument that the reaction to today's licentious sexual behavior is for the fine citizens of our Beloved Republic, in a rite of expiation, to demonize marbled red meats and other fat-based foods?

I don't buy it.

But if true, why limit the "mining of morality" to what we eat?

On second thought, maybe Eberstadt is right.

We have control freaks telling us not to smoke, drink alcohol, buy suvs, burn fossil fuels, vote Democratic, vote Republican, etc.

What happens if an unfortunate citizen of our Beloved Republic seeks out food as compensation, or substitute, for failure to achieve a satisfactory sexual life?

I hear that sometimes does happen..that for whatever reason failure to have a sexual life can be partially offset by gorging on food.

Are we to then assume every fattie out there is sexually frustrated?

I have heard a number of learned citizens of our Beloved Republic remark that a person can be both skinny and sexually frustrated.

This gets so confusing.

This posting to be continued at a later date.

Jerabaub.
You forgot Golf. Some of us Golf. We don't eat, we don't -- that other thing, we Golf. We spell Golf with a capital G. Many people hate us, still, we Golf.


fatties to the rescue
If one accepts the premise that food is a substitute for sex, then it undermines Eberstadt, doesn't it?

I mean, it is no secret that too many of the citizens of our Beloved Repubic are fatties.

I suppose the clinical term is "obese".

Anyway, that would mean all those fatties out there in our Beloved Republic are sexually frustrated..and not a bunch of sexual reprobates after all.

Lumbering fatties are living proof of our nation's virtue.

Redeemed by obesity.

Our nation is not as morally corrupt as some fear.

Michael, I admire your passion for Golf.

You must be Scottish.

Causality
There is no causal relationship between food morality and sexual morality. How preposterous. These eggheads have waaaay too much time on there hands.

Phylo out.

Sorry, but...
... both the original essay and Will's recounting of it seem to be pushing a conceit to the point of being ridiculous. If anything, racism in America today is what sex was half a century ago -- taboo, repressed, and still universal.


No Meateating
I've aways admired the simplicity of the Hindu (one branch I love) law:
1)no intoxicants (including coffee)
2) no illicit sex (including masturbation)
3) no meateating (including dairy products)
4) no gambling (sorry, Dr. Bennett)

Seriously, there is definitely something to be said for the International Society of Krishna Consciousness (the Hare Krishnas) and this simple and exalted rule of life!
****************************************8
And, speaking of exalted intellects, I've been meaning to read Leon Kass's book about eating...

We "Christians" have much to learn from the Hindus and the Jews among others, no doubt.

Useful Idiot/D
Useful Idiot - Agreed. TH seemes to be what happens when you fully monetize a site. It becomes so slow, cluttered and clunky that too few customers want to use it (call it the "Amazon Effect"). The worst is that ever-refreshing news junk at the bottom of every page, which sucks up so much bandwidth that it's like using an old 300 baud connection.

D - Free Republic is OK if you want to hang out with cranky morons and Zionuts. But you won't get to hang out there for long because they're fanatics about banning anyone who thinks outside an every-narrower "conservative" path. Reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode where aliens convince everyone in a neighborhood to destroy each other through paranoia.


George
Love the article and your approach to the subject. However,while reading the article, I happened upon a thought. Modern time has put Conservatism in a "Box",in that it conflicts with "Original Thought". The study you referenced, with the context of "Kant", is 18th century. Conservatives will be required to update their thoughts and approaches. Of course we could always wait for the trends to reverse themselves? Also,where did she leave the "Drugs"? Human beings have an appetite for pleasure; Sex,Drugs and Food! Without "Drugs" the study may prove to be "Incomplete"?

Wow interesting
After years of suffering from the lack of morality, you have described a people accepting the wrath of God, after AIDS and the irresponsible disbelievers continual spreading of death, suffering and generational curses while trying to fill an unhealthy sexual appetite(sexual deviancy)

a 50 year generation?
John Guare made this joke back in the 1960's. He had a character who was trying to lure a man away from his (insane as it happens) wife. But because she was a good cook and not so good in bed, she was withholding cooking rather than sex. Of course Guare recognized it was a joke.

Will's description of sexual mores seems more relevant to the '70s than today anyway. The portion of the public that advocates free love seems to have declined quite a bit since then. And that is not a good thing if one is claiming that things are trending up.

There is a small number of people who think that eating is a categorical moral issue. But to take that as representative is to confuse trend articles in New York magazine for reality.

Oh boy, oh boy!
A cheeseburger is sin in addition to being delicious. It is time to purchease stock in the hamburger joints and other fast food delectables.

Gross Americans
George Will must be talking about the elite when he refers to puritans moving to food and away from sex. Everywhere I go I see an enormous number of fat people--usually women and girls. Obviously, most, if not all, don't care about what, or how much, they eat. I can't imagine they're having much sex in their lives because one look is a bigger turn-off than a hare lip.

Patrick
One of the reasons,that reasoning trumps the church, is the differences in application. The "Fool" states; That God is punishing "Deviant Sexual Behavior",with death and suffering. Yet young people die everyday with none of these factors included. We all suffer at some point in our life,even the most moral. Also,we all "Die". These facts being put into evidence, gives a reasonable person, reason to ignore your statements. You have not a "Clue" about God or his intentions. Shut UP...Please. Let God speak for himself and he will!!!

Darn!
I miss out on the sexual system since I'm too old and happily married but miss out on the food smorgisboard because they changed the system. This isn't fair! Darn! Double Darn!!

I wonder...
... what Betty would have thought of Mary Eberhardt? Overboard feminism wasn't a factor in her life, either. Betty's life & 'career' centered on keeping her man happy. The old saw about 'Behind every successful man is a successful woman' had some import. And Betty accepted, more or less, the 'double standard' in sexual morality. She also had come to her sexual maturity in a society where abortion could not be procured -- if such a thought had ever crossed her mind. The phrase 'shotgun wedding' had meaning, too. TV entertainment was not all about sex and 'relationships' -- thus, she could not live vicariously through 'Lifetime,' nor grow envious of the mega-salaries earned by the likes of Katie Couric or the bats on 'The View' -- whose drivel wouldn't even have made it over the backyard fence a generation ago.
So, the Mary Eberhardt's of the world now have moved beyond urging Betty to dump the lump she lives with and are busy documenting & intellectualizing over the debris that Betty's life has become. Jennifer is Eberhardt's step-daughter -- a skinny, near-sighted lesbian who works at Stanford & wants nothing so much as to 'marry' her 'lover' and retire comfortably.

Betty should be very angry. But it's easier to sit around & get fat & watch TV.

Contrary to Jack David's claim,
All one has to learn from/about ISKCON (a perversion of "classical" Hinduism established in 16th century by a Bengali madman), one can glean from the "True Crimes" section at a local bookstore such as Borders, Booksamillion, B. Dalton, ...

Also, Jack David is wrong
in assuming ISKCON prohibits dairy products (sounds like he confoozles ISKCON with the criminals of PETA)--making "ducks" (cricket-term, equivalent of basseball "strikeout") typically.

D...
Does God withdraw or do we withdraw from Him? Depends, I suppose on your religious training and interpretation of scripture. Otherwise, nice post to Killy. I have always argued that sin isn't so much an act as it is a separation from God. Animals don't sin, because they don't have free will. Sin isn't always a specific behavior. But it is always a choice.

D
People from the beginning of time, have been faced with these assumptions. Yet they make "Choices" with full knowledge of the consequences. Some people smoke "Marijuana", knowing that they live in an 18th century mindset country. A country that uses "Drug Laws" to eliminate competitive voting,by minorities. The modern world has embraced some human behavior by decriminalizing it.Yet a country, brimming with sin and little evidence of "Sanctity", stands steadfast. Why? As a person you have one life,live it. As long as you don't hurt someone else,do your thing. I will allow only God to judge me,not man!

100,000's of people out of work
and this is what you want to talk about?

Cheeze
Based on my observations,and the food/sex analogy, cheesebergers should be no problem for today's American society.

Chloe
Yes.

Chloe
Yes, Chloe, we are able to think about more than one thing at a time.

Interesting topic
I work in social services, so it's lefty loony central at lunch and I have unconsciously noted the correlation Will reports on. We have a number of "ethic vegetarians" here. They are very dogmatic in their condemnation of anyone who eats meat and fish. One of them won't eat eggs or milk either because farm chickens and dairy cows are being abused somewhere. They all think that those of us who do eat meat et al are horrible, misguided, stupid, you get the picture. All but one of them, who is an older woman, are involved in what I would call loose sexual behavior -- multiple partners, serial (maybe) monogamy, homosexuality. Most of them consider marriage to be an "institution of abuse" (my husband says I let the kids beat on him, but it's more like I don't tell them to stop) and so, of course, their way of living is so much more righteous.

Someone noted that these trends are reversing. I think they are. My daughter's generation is way more conservative than mine was. We were post-hippy babyboomers who had the pill and no AIDS, so there didn't seem to be any consequences to sexual immorality. Kids today -- they know there are consequences and so, it makes them a little bit more circumspect and, maybe, a little bit more willing to listen to the grandparents and g-grandparents and find out why their lives, while physically hard, seemed to have a greater spiritual side. I know the reason for that, but of course, you'll always get someone on these threads who will try to rewrite history because they're convinced morality and Christianity are evils and not good things given from a loving God.

kookmews asks if Will
made any worthwhile contribution to America.

Well, kookmews' contribution is somewhat like that (revealed by Kirk at the episode-end) of Harry Mudd in the Star Trek episode, "I Mudd"--basically as an example of something to avoid!

Wonderful!
We have that great intellectual koolmuse dismissing George Will for not making one meaningful contribution.

That ends the argument!

koolmuse wins the award for the most stupid statement on Townhall for the month of February.

(That's a great achievement, considering what we've read from Dr Douglas, Will, and Mellor.)

I don't buy the premise
People inherently want to be righteous, so because they are licentious they have to make up for it by being prudish about food? It is more likely that people are naturally SELF-righteous and have substituted one means to judge others (sex) with another (food). In reality, our culture has substituted man's law (don't eat meat, don't smoke, don't own a gun, don't pollute, etc) for God's law (see the Ten Commandments). Hence, the moral confusion in our day.

koolmoosmess is one of those libs who
sounds stupid at first and then keeps writing to remove all doubt!

Husker2, JAG CA
Excellent points, and cent-percent on the nail!

What About Environmentalism?
Interesting concept and probably a lot of truth to it. Why stop with food though? The Food Nazis have nothing on the Enviro-Natzis when it comes to "bristling with judgments" -- and for much the same reasons as Will/Eberstadt attribute to the "Body is the Temple of Myself" crowd.

Today, your average Environmentally Correct twenty-something will look at you with the same expression of revulsion and horror for not recycling that old soda bottle as their grandmother might have done if she had stumbled over a young couple fornicating in a Sunday School classroom.

It is getting harder and
harder to find a good meal in the USA, unless one likes fast food. Food in expensive restaurants is generally nothing to scream about either. One could once find a small cafe, probably not too clean and not fancy, but with great country-style food.

I asked a WVa cafe waitress why the women cooks were who could really whip up good, plain food had disappeared. She said: "They are all in nursing homes!"

I compained to my cousin one morning about the food in a cafe not far from my WVa farm. He said: "You can't expect good food when the cook's night job is changing tires at the truck stop."


CO2 is fertilizer...
Koolmuse,
Do you even have a clue about the carbon balance and how much carbon is present in the atmosphere, the seas, and on land or how much moves from one place to the other? There is a reasonable argument that fossil fuel emmissions actually increase vegetative growth. Maybe that explains the rise of liberalism.

Seadog,
I eat plenty good. I have 6 kids (guess I took the be fruitful and multiply part literally), so we don't go out to eat often at fast food or fancy restaurants, because we can't afford it. We actually cook our own nutritious, enjoyable, and varied meals. We grow some of our own food and gather some, but mostly shop in a grocery store. Some is raised environmentally and/or organically, but certainly not all. We eat too much sugar and meat by modern standards, but we are all healthy and relatively lean. We live in the suburbs, not the country. It isn't impossible, it isn't even hard. After the initial investment in a good set of cooking and serving utensils, it is pretty cost effective. I taught my wife to cook and now I'm teaching my kids.

koolmuse
RAPE
Deuteronomy 22:25
But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.

SLAVERY
Deuteronomy 23:15-16
Thou shalt not deliver unto his master the servant which is escaped from his master unto thee: He shall dwell with thee, even among you, in that place which he shall choose in one of thy gates, where it liketh him best: thou shalt not oppress him.

Leviticus 25:39-41
And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant: But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubilee. And then shall he depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return.

KIDNAPPING
Deuteronomy 24:7
If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel, and maketh merchandise of him, or selleth him; then that thief shall die; and thou shalt put evil away from among you.

FeedFwd
I, too, eat well at home, wife is a great cook, but I travel alone when working and, when I'm not working, I spend a lot of time on my farm in WVA. I could live well on what I cook, (beans, taters and greens) but don't want to.

I raised a small garden when I lived in CA and KY and am thinking of raising a big garden in WVA.

Small cafes once dotted the land and I never ate poorly in any one of them - had better food in some than in so called "fine" restaurants in Europe. Most are gone now, but a few exist

I once mentioned to an old man in a small Indiana town that I was getting very tired of fast food and truck stops. He spit a stream of tabacco about a dozen feet and said; "Son, look for the pickup trucks. That is where the locals eat -- and they KNOW." I used that tactic for the rest of my tour recruiting around one-half of IN and KY -- the old man was right!


beware...
...diarrhea of the mouth (or keyboard) and constipation of thought. Do not come to a battle of intellect unarmed.

koolmuse @ 50
You don't think that rape, slavery & kidnapping 'kills' something in the victim? 'Thou shalt not kill' is not, afterall, a prohibition against stepping on ants. Of course, a person with empathy for his fellow man (which is the essence of Christianity) would not have to have this pointed out to him.

koolmuse
You wanted us to debate you?

I make it a point to never debate anyone who uses the words "frikking," "shyte4brains," and "f--ks."

Come back and debate when you can use English the way intelligent people use it.

Addendum
The Ten Commandments are a *summary* of God's moral law, which is eternal and universally binding. The moral case laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy are applications of the Ten Commandments.

What a stupid column
Surprised there was nothing about baseball in here.

SizzleLean
Maybe the problem isn't with the column.

Good stuff
A great column, as usual. I seek this man's thoughts out as often as I can. If you are not an admirer of George Will, you would benefit from becoming one, assuming you went beyond the recent public school requirements and have learned to think critically.

Phillip in Kentucky

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Americans V. Globalists
The issue is NO LONGER democrat v. republican. It is AMERICAN V. GLOBALIST.

Globalists: George H. W. Bush, William Jefferson Clinton, George W. Bush, and of course Barack Hussein Obama.

As long as you want to see dems as bad and repubs as good, or dems as good and repubs as bad you will NOT be able to SAVE AMERICA.

The ONLY way to save AMERICA is to attack ALL globaists and support ALL AMERICANS.

to put it another way:

georgeherbertwalkerbush / williamjeffersonclinton / georgewbush/barackhusseinobama / arethesamepresident / rolledintoone...

SO...

ARE YOU AN AMERICAN OR A GLOBALIST?

George Will
I'd like George to write an article and tell us about his tea party with Obama. I'd love to know what went down there.


STOP calling DUMBAMA names ...
It is time to stop referring to ole' BIG EARS by those adoring names like 'the messiah' or the "great one" - even sarcastically ...

WE ARE AT WAR FOLKS!

It is time to fight ...

For example NEVER refer to the fairness doctrine as the fairness doctrine ...

It is the UNFAIRNESS DOCTRINE ... get it?

so Obama is ...

DUMBAMA
B-HUSSEIN-O
FOREIGNER-IN-CHIEF
PRESIDENT O'BORTER
OBORTER-IN-CHIEF
OLE' BIG EARS (like sinatra, y'know)
OBAMBIE
OBA-DIARRHEA-OF-THE-MOUTH (he talks too much)
TELEPROMPTER-IN-CHIEF
TELEPROMPTER-KING

Let's stop accidentally saying what the press and the trolls on this site want us to do ...

LET'S ATTACK DUH-BAMBIE AND RIDICULE HIM BEFORE HIS HENCHMEN SHUT DOWN TH AND END TALK RADIO!

Eric Holder - RACE BAITER...
ERIC HOLDER - that black guy that DUMBAMA - the RACE-BAITER-IN-CHIEF nominated to be AG - which in Eric's case stands for ...

A##holius Gigantus ...

named some of his heroes the other day ... one of whom was W. E. Du Bois ...

"Upon the death of Stalin on March 16, 1953, Du Bois wrote in the National Journal: "Josef Stalin was a great man; few other men of the 20th century approach his stature. He was simple, calm and courageous. He seldom lost his poise; pondered his problems slowly, made his decisions clearly and firmly; never yielded to ostentation nor coyly refrained from holding his rightful place with dignity. He was the son of a serf but stood calmly before the great without hesitation or nerves. But also – and this was the highest proof of his greatness – he knew the common man, felt his problems, followed his fate."

Understand that by then it was well-known that Stalin was the biggest mass murderer in history until that point."

AND ERIC IS THE AG - A##HOLIUS GIGANTUS FOLKS ...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId= 89996



Andrea fro WI
I noticed the koolmuse decided to run away after showing him the truth. Sadly, with this individual it is like dropping pearls before swine.

OBLAHBLAH & THE BIG O .....
Remember RIDICULE is a WEAPON ...

because OBAMAPHILES have no sense of humor ...

and neither does THE BIG-EARS-IN-CHIEF ...

he could suck the life out of any good dinner party ...

so the names are rolling in ...

here are two great ones:

OBLAHBLAH and the BIG 0 ... to go with

DUMBAMA
B-HUSSEIN-O
FOREIGNER-IN-CHIEF
PRESIDENT O'BORTER
OBORTER-IN-CHIEF
OLE' BIG EARS (like sinatra, y'know)
OBAMBIE
OBA-DIARRHEA-OF-THE-MOUTH (he talks too much)
TELEPROMPTER-IN-CHIEF
TELEPROMPTER-KING
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I think Betty is closer to the truth
We are created in the image of God. We have a God given conscience + the Ten commandments/Bible to guide us morally. It's easy for people to abandon God's rules in favor of their own, but they don't know what to do with their still functioning conscience that is inside of them. Our conscience will bother us if we're doing anything against God's moral code of conduct. When people don't believe in God they have to find moral substitutes....global warming, the environment, endangered species, organic food...all very sacred to the person observing these new commandments...but really only a submission to their own invention. It does benefit the person by temporarily alleviating a burdened conscience, but as soon as you get diarrhea from all the organic food you're eating, you might look for another 'god'. Or if the endangered species, like a chimpanzee, that you are living with rips your best friend's face off, you might look for another 'god', so the moral code is always changing. A burdened conscience comes from being separated from the God of the universe. It's an alarm. God has very specific moral rules. Submitting to God is the only true conscience purifier and goes against our own strong will. Submitting to God gives us strength to exercise self-control, and get rid of anything that doesn't glorify God...Sexual sin, gossip, greed, envy, gluttony and all false gods like global warming. The problem is, no one wants to do it. They want to make up their own rules.

USPatriot56
You are EXACTLY right. Both parties are controlled by the same people (bankers/multinational co). George Bush did all he could to kill our country and he has passed the torch to Obama who will most likely inflict the fatal blow.

If the globalist/new world order agenda is not confronted we are just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, over and over and over again.

Will is on board and a member of the Trilateral Commission. There are a lot of wolves passing themselves off as sheep these days.


“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order” David Rockefeller

“Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the US; characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure-one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it.” David Rockefeller


Here's Murdoch (CFR) just the other day...

"We are in the midst of a phase of history in which nations will be redefined and their futures fundamentally altered."

We will become part of the NAU.



http://thejournal.parker-joseph.co.uk/blog/_archives/2009/2 /25/4103836.html


These things have been in the works for a VERY long time. This economic crisis was engineered and it will be used to force us into giving up our national sovereignty.



Georgie
Fails to mention one of the most glaring inconsistencies when it comes to SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS.

The leather shoe wearing, fur hating, animal activists who don't mind scraping babies out of their mothers womb........or letting a baby be partially born and then sucking it's brains out. Hurt a whale and you could go to jail, but kill a child in it's mother's womb, or partially born.........no big deal.

But they recycle!


Wendy
Well said, with just one slight correction to suggest.

I would replace the word "rational" in your last sentence with "reasonable".

"Reasoning", relates to objectivism as "rationalism" relates to subjectivism.

One "reasons" according to objective analysis.

One "rationalizes" subject to ...

By the way, I read your blog on Rule 157. Very Good.

WEIMAR! WEIMAR! WEIMAR!
WEIMAR! WEIMAR! WEIMAR!

Screwed. Screwed. Screwed.

Let the ACORNites try to find a job and a wheelbarrow. They will need both

Believe it or not... most people with mortgages (and pay them) say send your Kleenex, because "frankly my dears, we don't give a DAMN."

Rent a freaking apartment, already.

For SANEits, I have beaucoup doubloons for you when the dollar takes because of the spending-on-'roids goes bankrupt.

For the ACORNites, et. al., I say "va te faire foutre."

For the SANEites, I say AMMO, AMMO, AMMO and take a long vacation around 04.15.09.

The SANEites out number the ACORNites.

And, just for fun, after you have looked at the devaluation of your assets, cop a chair and Look West Young (and old) Man, Woman, and child. When SYBILites are fried by thei collective Festivus Poles by an electrical storm, you will feel enormous delight.

Even ACORN has CORN in it and Libs are going to be standing in the food lines, if there is food and the losers will join in the "fun"!

The "Will" for food and sex...
George, you and your friend Ms. Eberstadt, pose an interesting idea of the connection between food and sex--especially since "Bon Appetit" applies more to both today since Betty's era of the 50's!. That in itself says a lot...huh? The kinship between sex and eating food can be very exciting and uniquely joined. If one over eats and gets fat, one goes on a diet, loses the weight and all is well; one has too much sex, arguably, one gets pregnant during normal sex between a man and woman, has an abortion and all is well too, to far too many...some think, I among them. Over eating might be less costly and less destructive to society as a whole, so let's keep eating more, because out-of-wedlock-births and abortions are far worse!! Or should we cut back on both? Less food and less sex, let's spread that around too Mr. President!

lepanto
Sorry for not getting back to you sooner; unlike our liberal trolls I have other responsibilities to take care of. No doubt that koolmuse didn't immediately respond because he had to go back and consult his atheist "scholars" for how to answer those verses and his eventual response was typical. He is not interested in truth; he is only (vainly) trying to discredit Christianity.

koolmuse
Do you realize you are interpreting those passages concerning rape, kidnapping and slavery as an Isalmofascist would?

Whenever we interpret a particular passage in Scripture we must consider the context and general teaching of the Bible on the matter as well as on related issues. We call this the analogy of Scripture. Any sensible Christian knows that you don’t use one verse to violate another passage of Scripture. If you are truly interested in how to properly interpret these verses (which I doubt), I suggest that you look at these articles:

http://www.berith.org/essays/martin_rape/07.html
http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissuesArticles.asp?id=120

Addendum
"And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death." (Ex. 21:16)

This verse shows that kidnapping of any man (Israelite or not) is forbidden.

Leviticus 25:39-41
This verse deals with indentured servitude, which is allowed, as opposed to chattel slavery.

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I should have said "these verses".

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I should have said "these verses".
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