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Thursday, November 13, 2008
George Will :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Man from Kentucky
by George Will
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"I hope to have God on my side, but I must have Kentucky."
-- Abraham Lincoln

WASHINGTON -- Which is how discerning conservatives felt while waiting to see if, in Election Day's second-most important voting, Kentuckians would grant a fifth term to Mitch McConnell, leader of the Senate Republicans. They did, making him Washington's most important Republican and second-most consequential elected official. This apotheosis has happened even though he is handicapped by, as National Review rather cruelly says, "an owlish, tight-lipped public demeanor reminiscent of George Will."

That disability is, however, a strength because it precludes an occupational hazard of senators -- presidential ambition. Besides, McConnell, 66, is completely a man of the Senate. At 22, he was an intern for Sen. John Sherman Cooper and went from law school to the staff of Sen. Marlow Cook. Because McConnell has been so thoroughly marinated in the institution's subtle mores and complex rules, he will wring maximum leverage from probably 43 Republican votes.

Which is why Democrats spared no expense in attempting to unhorse him, recruiting a rich opponent and supplementing his spending with $6 million from the national party. McConnell, to his great credit, had made himself vulnerable by opposing the "Millionaire's Amendment" to the McCain-Feingold law restricting political speech. That amendment punished wealthy, self-financing candidates by allowing their opponents to spend much more than the law otherwise allows. Last summer, the Supreme Court struck down the amendment for the reasons McConnell opposed it, including this one: Government has no business fine-tuning electoral competition by equalizing candidates' abilities to speak.

McConnell opposes public financing of presidential campaigns on Jeffersonian grounds ("To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors is," said Jefferson, "sinful and tyrannical"). McConnell is a constitutionalist who has opposed McCain-Feingold and other abridgements of free speech, including the proposed constitutional amendment to ban the expressive act of flag burning.

Speaking last week by telephone from Kentucky, McConnell said Republicans should feel "disappointment, not despair." In comprehensively adverse conditions -- "the worst since the Depression" -- their presidential candidate nevertheless won 46 percent of the vote. Although 23 percent of Barack Obama's voters were under 30, McConnell does not subscribe to "as the twig is bent" determinism. ("Just as the twig is bent, the tree's inclined" -- Alexander Pope.) He does not think the younger generation has acquired an indelible Democratic imprint.

Ninety percent of John McCain's vote was white, and the white percentage of the turnout has fallen from 90 percent in 1976 to 77 percent in 2004 and 74 percent in 2008. Still, McConnell believes that although Hispanics, the nation's largest minority, gave Obama two-thirds of their votes, they are entrepreneurial and culturally conservative and therefore not beyond the reach of Republicans.

Legislatively, Republicans can begin clarifying their convictions by pressing to limit the scope and duration of what a Republican administration has unleashed -- the increasingly indiscriminate intrusion of government into financing the private sector. McConnell believes the bailout legislation was "necessary but not necessarily precedential." It should be considered a one-time response to a once-in-a-century crisis, and should be terminated "as soon as possible" by government selling the assets it has acquired in order to recoup the money it has spent.

"The Senate," says McConnell, "is a place that brings many things to the middle, or stops them altogether." He has urged the president-elect to "tackle the big issues -- Social Security, Medicare -- that cannot be addressed without some kind of bipartisan buy-in."

Democrats probably can peel off a few Republican senators to reach 60 votes for some of their agenda. But not for all of it, which actually should please President Obama. For example, McConnell's caucus probably can stop organized labor's top priority -- abolition of workers' right to a secret ballot in unionization votes. Obama has endorsed this travesty but might prudently hope it never reaches his desk.

McConnell is Kentucky's most important politician since Henry Clay, "the Great Compromiser." Clay's attempts to defuse the sectional crisis rooted in slavery failed, but they bought time for Northern strength -- in population and industrial muscle -- to become sufficient to save the nation. McConnell, too, has the patience that politics repays and that the Republican recuperation might require.

But he also has a keen sense of how the nation "can change on a dime." Drawing upon this year's grim experience, he dryly says: "Governing is a hazardous business for presidential parties."

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“can change on a dime”
“Ninety percent of John McCain's vote was white, and the white percentage of the turnout has fallen from 90 percent in 1976 to 77 percent in 2004 and 74 percent in 2008. … But he also has a keen sense of how the nation ‘can change on a dime.’”

In world-history terms, it has already been doing just that.

Thean from Kentucky
He also is, to his discredit, one of the worst earmarkers in Congress, and for that reason an example of what Republicans should shun.

Rense Johnson

Mr. Will...
Have you thought about taking some time off from your column?

Alternatively, TH management, have you thought about taking some time off from Mr. Will's column?

I have.


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Consequential? Precedential?
I guess after 44 years of banging around the senate cloakrooms he might know something. Who wouldn't? But invoking Lincoln invoking God just because McConnell's from Kentucky is a bit overdone.
What it's always about for Will is McCain-Feingold.
Just fed up with the tight-lipped owlishness. Take some Ex-Lax. Retire.

Not beyond the reach?
Dear Mr. Will,

You sincerely believe that Hispanics are "not beyond the reach" of Republicans? It's doubtful that they'll be eager to join your serfdom. They may be eager and conservative and upwardly mobile, but you've already demonstrated what you think of the Nouvea Riche in Alaska. They'll see you for what you are: a Feudalist.

And while Feudalists like yourself are eager to find a new broomsweep, you rarely suffer them a place at the table. Witness Palin. For your branch of the Republican Party, the motto is:

"Walmart is a fine stock for Republicans to own; Walmart is a fine place for the help to shop."

Your Feudalist branch of the Republican Party is what cost conservatives the election. You just couldn't bring yourself to dine with the help.

George
It is time for you to retire! You have lost your mind.

Just last night
Dick Morris was predicting on O'Reilly that one of Obama's first moves would be to grant amnesty to the illegals. The reason he thinks Obama will do this is to shore up their vote for him in 2012. If Morris is correct, and Republicans fight Obama's move, they will be forever tarnished in the hearts and minds of the Hispanic people. Even if they go along and vote with the Democrats on amnesty, they will be unlikely to match the benefits Obama will offer the new citizens like free medical care at taxpayers expense. It sounds like the Democrats plan is to use immigration to forever change the country in a Democratic direction. Eggheads like Will need to take this into consideration.

Good Old...
... fence walking George Will. A liberal if there ever was one, but RINOs & CINOs don't like to be called libs, that's why they call themselves moderates.

George has a lot of company.... like.... Kathleen Parker, Peggy Noonan and Bill O'Reilly.

Great piece, George ...
... and Mitch McConnell continues to serve us well. OsiSpeaks.com

The entrepraneural spirit ...
lives in vast numbers of Americans, I think, regardless of race or circumstances. Is the American dream really to "work for the man" and let the government take care of me in every way it can? Heck, no! This dangerous, liberal illuminati-fed notion could be the ruin of us all. May the GOP not forget that.

Isn't there...
...a rating lower than 1 star?

No?

Too bad - the columnist who considers himself just sooooo-much-smarter-than-everyone deserves it.

Get a job George
Write as a side job when you really have something to say.
UPS is looking of seasonal help!

Hispanics
I went to school with a large number of latinos. The vast majority were middle class. None spoke Spanish. In fact, many were in Spanish class with me.

Now, the majority of Hispanics at that school are impoverished and speak English as a second language.

The former group, from 30 years ago, are probably the only ones who'll yank a chain for the GOP now, and in the foreseeable future. The latter group are the same ones who put Hugo Chavez in power.

Who knows? Maybe in three generations the decendants of the illegals whom McConnell and the rest of the GOP aristocracy are so enamoured will pull the lever for Republicans. By then the GOP, thanks to the hard work of people like McCain, McConnell, Bush, and Will, will have ten Senators, 50 Representatives, and four Governors for whom to vote.

Hopefully, I'll be dead.

He knows history
George Will knows history. That's why he has such a seasoned stoic sound to him. He's got a good sense of humor too.

Mr. Will,
On a "slightly" different topic...as you are a discerning conservative, I am curious as to your thoughts after viewing the November 10, 2008 speech by both the Lord Mayor of London and Prime Minister Gordon Brown at Guildhall.

As for me, I wonder where on the globe one might find conservatism these days...I could'nt help but feel we are perhaps living through a reversal of roles after WWII.

Your thoughts?

McConnell and Boehner are not ...
... the new, conservative leadership that the GOP needs. Nice try, George!

Save the Nation
The US would not have perished. The war did not save the nation, it simply forced a number of so-called sovereign states to remain in association with the Union when they no longer wishe to be a part of this association--kinda like the Mafia. This save the nation nonsense has been peddled by the North and Unionists from the start. It was a lie in 1861 and it is a lie now.

There is even doubt as to if the South would have remained outside the Union once the issue of slavery was no longer a valid one. Slavery was slowly dying in 1860.

But even if the South had remained outside the Union, the United States would not have vanished. Maine and Indiana weren't going to leave the Union and they certaintly were not going to join the CSA.

The US would be different today, it would not be the major world power, the de facto empire that it is today, but depending on your point of view that perhaps would not be a bad thing. Even today many would rather see the US step down from its imperial perch--e.g. Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, etc.

Akagi
Nice to see you back. It's been a while.

You can throw me into that list at the end of your comment. Not because I don't want the US to be powerful, but because I know that there is an inverse relationship between government hegemony and individual liberty.

Bitter and Plumber
"Dick Morris was predicting on O'Reilly that one of Obama's first moves would be to grant amnesty to the illegals."

Palin seems to support this too, isn't she the future leader of the GOP?

Bush won 49% of the Hispanic vote in Texas when he ran for governor and 35% in 2000 and 44% in 2004. So the GOP can at least get close to half of this bloc.

Calling them names like many on TH do will not endear them to your cause. You can't continue as a major party losing 9:1 with blacks and then doing the same with Hispanics. Whites will become a smaller and smaller share of the electorate. In 1984 they were 87% and now they are at 62% (2004 election). There will be a time when whites are actually a minority (more blacks, Asians, Hispanics and multi-racials in total) and not all whites vote for the GOP. The GOP will have to make inroads into the large and growing non-white population. Asians are too small of a group to matter outside a few districts in say California, NY and the state of Hawai'i and blacks vote for the DP 9:1. If the GOP is to remaind a viable national and majority party it has to reach out to Hispanics.

But keep up the name calling and the immigration rhetoric and the GOP will become like the party it replaced--the Whigs.

Mitch McConnell
Obviously, the United States Senate does not see itself in any way responsible for the party's recent losses.

They will continue to reelect Sen. McConnell to be their leader until he is the last Republican Senator in the Senate and not have a clue that the country is begging for new leadership.

Akagi
I didn't know that "illegal" was a derogatory word. Now that I know, I won't use the word to describe criminals or behavior which is contrary to the law.

When does "undocumented" become derogatory? Shall we change the word "immigrant" to "migrant"?

Boy! This PC game is gonna be tough on people who like straight talk.

George Will's good ideas...
...have become like those coffee beans "processed" by the civet cat -- they must be really good if you're willing to pick them from the rest of his "output."
One item George has offered is that conservatism has become too willing to slag off at "intellectuals," and to drive them out of the GOP. This is very wrong and self destructive. I vote Republican, hold conservative views... and detest NASCAR and country music. Who decided I can't appreciate the music of Erik Satie and be a conservative?

george dont change the subject !
its the porky pines from chicago we need to worry about!every time there is a liberal move to take away the moral fiber of a conservative george will,will change the subject!when obama tries to take away any of our rights george will yell abe,or kentucky!or the upper crust,

OMT Akagi
Better than 60 percent of the "undocumented migrants" "migrated" to the "United States" during the last eight years. Ironically, Clinton did a better job at "border" "enforcement" than did President Bush.

Even if the GOP picks up 70 percent of the "hispanic" vote, conservatism will be dead in a practical sense. The German word "gesellschaft" means, from a political perspective: more people = bigger government. This is due in large part to the increased anonymity afforded in large populations.

The opposite of "gesellschaft" is "gemeinschaft". Small towns require smaller govt because as most people know eachother, people tend to self-police themselves.

Ironically, small towns are best able to handle a large government because a larger percentage of the population takes part in the political process. Large cities do better with smaller govt because special interests hamper govts ability to be efficacious.

FEMA's reaction to Katrina is a good example: think of the federal government as an aircraft carrier. It takes some 20 support craft to keep it afloat, and a mile to change direction. What was needed to respond to Katrina is a cigarette boat: quick, independent, and "turns on a dime".

Admittedly, I use this example ignoring the failure of the state govt and the fact I believe that FEMA ought not exist.

Plumber
Some say illegal is the new N-word. I disagree. No, I mean words like wet and the second word starts with a b and rhymes with sack and the S-word and a word with the term bean in it.

Plenty of people here on TH have used these terms in their posts, this was especially the case during the immigration debate and very common in replies to Linda Chavez's columns. So common she included many of them. There were also insults to Mexico and Latin America in general. If you called the home of my father or grandfather or perhaps my own home at one time a S*hithole, think I will be inclined to vote for you.

You can have a rational debate over the fate of the illegals without the unadulterated bigotry.

I have no issue with the term illegal alien.

George Will
writes, "Still, McConnell believes that although Hispanics, the nation's largest minority, gave Obama two-thirds of their votes, they are entrepreneurial and culturally conservative and therefore not beyond the reach of Republicans."

Thank goodness for some clear heads in the party. Conservative principles can and will appeal increasingly to hispanics and, dare I say, blacks if only the party adhered to some principles instead of following the democratic party's market segmentation theory of achieving power.

Get Outta Here
George has outworn his welcome. He needs to go to HuffPo or wherever. He has nothing to say.

Akagi
OK. I agree.

However, I rarely see derogatory terms used to describe anybody based on ethnicity, religion, or country of origin here on TH. Most derogatory terms and statements I've seen are ideologically based.

Plus, the reality isn't lost on me (unlike Linda Chavez) that if the USA were NOT better than most other countries, many times fewer people would want to immigrate here. If I made an announcement to the world tomorrow that the US is going to take in the first 50 million to sign up, I'd have 500 million or more signed up by the end of the year.

The Border
The reason for that Plumber is NAFTA. In the 1970s, the numbers of illegals coming into the US from Mexico was a trickle. Mexico was poorer then but its economy was stable. In 1994 there were 2.5 million illegals from Mexico in the US, but since then 8 million have crossed.

NAFTA has destroyed the Mexican agricultural economy, forcing two million off the land. Those that have stayed face growing poverty as corn prices and the products corn makes have skyrocketed. Tortilla prices have gone up 50%.

The urban poor have fared no better. Due to service rules in NAFTA, Mexico has been flooded by cheaper Chinese-made products by the likes to Wal-Mart which have forced countless toy makers and other such enterprises out of business--at least 28,000 small to medium sized firms have been eliminated. Wages along the border in the maquiladoras and other border firms have fallen 25% as the area has an over supply of workers as well as the government crushing union organizing efforts to increase wages which typically run between $0.60 and $1.00 an hour. A sheetrock hanger can earn 10 times that or more in the US.

Due to this the thousands and thousands see the US as the only option to provide for their families and themselves. It was not that the border was more secure, it was the numbers of wanting to get in have increased and this is directly a result of NAFTA.

For all those that jump up and down in paranoid fashion about NAFTA, NAFTA highways and NAU stuff, any polysci 101 student can tell you when the US, Canada and Mexico get together to agree on something, the winner in the agreement is not going to be Canada or Mexico.

While the agreement has benefited the elite in Mexico and probably the middle class as well. It has been a diaster for the rural and urban poor in that country. Some in rural Mexico have called NAFTA their death warrant which was a major reason for the Zapatista uprising in Chiapas in 1994 (which began the day NAFTA went into effect).


Kentucky on Lincoln's side?
The election results of 1860 and 1864 would argue differently:

1860:
Abraham Lincoln (Republican) .93%

1864:
Abraham Lincoln (Republican) 30.17%

His (early) treatment of Kentucky with kid gloves kept them from officially seceding, though, which was his real goal. Kentucky had two state governments during the war, one (Union) in Frankfort and another (Confederate) in Bowling Green.





As for Henry Clay...
By 1848, Kentuckians didn't support him for the Whig nomination for president. Mitch McConnell seems to be losing his popularity there, too, and for good reason.

We need a real conservative as Minority Leader in the Senate, not Mitch McConnell.

/Oh, and that's 0.93% of the vote for Lincoln in Kentucky in 1860.

Plumber
Look at the comments by BETWyan or The Big Mick just to name a few. Their comments are ethnically based and disgusting.

As for the US being the best, better than most countries? Sure. It has the 12th best standard of living and the 12th highest per capita GDP. Which is why the top 10 countries that send people to the US are mostly either NICs (Newly Industrialized Countries) or LEDCs (Lesser Economically Dewveloped Countries). The top 10 are: Mexico, India, China, the Philippines, Cuba, Vietnam, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Canada, and the ROK. Of these 10, only Canada has a higher standard of living than the US. People usually do not move to countries with lower standards of living. I would bet that many of those 24,000 Canadians that immigrate to the US each year do so because they are retirees who move to their retirement homes in places like Florida for good and those who have married US citizens.

You don't see waves of Norwegians coming to the US (The numbers are a few hundred each year).

If the US announced open immigration for 50 million people--first come, first serve--millions of Chinese, Haitians and Mexicans and the like would come. Few Norwegians would though. Just as if Japan did millions of Haitians and Mexicans would, but few Americans would (even if Japan does have a higher (by 4 slots) standard of living than the US).




NAFTA
Agreed. Last time I was in Mexico, about seven months ago, plumbers were making $7-$10 per day.

As a poli-sci grad of a major university, this is what we were taught: global population growth is a time bomb. Rather than Malthusian methods to stifle this growth, development of a relative "middle class" in developing countries is viewed as key to limit growth.

In a nutshell: ">" means "leads to"

Middle class > better education for women > women in school longer > women have fewer children later in life.

The price? Exactly what you wrote re: NAFTA. Except, there really aren't many benefits for the US either.

Akagi
I don't know about the demographics of Canadian immigration. However, I do know that according to Pew, of the top ten immigrant-importing countries, only the Vietnamese have lower birth rates once here than in the country they left.

This includes the Canadians.

Akagi
Hey, I gotta go. Great conversation. Nice to see you back.

Take care.

Akagi and Plumber...
reading your posts with interest. I live in WA state which has had a seasonal influx of agriculture workers since I was a little girl. The majority were white 50 years ago and are Hispanic now. Farm workers are necessary in communities which with ag-based economies. I am very much in favor of a guest worker program which would give us the labor force we need while giving the workers the employment and income they need. That being said, I am not in favor of rewarding illegal behavior with another amnesty program...I worked in a law firm in the 1980's with one of the partners heavily involved in the amnesty program. That was supposed to be a "one-time" thing and fix the problem. We can see how well that worked. The failure was in not securing the borders. Unless we secure the borders, no amnesty, guest worker, temporary visa or other program will work effectively.

George. Just go away.
Please.

Reaganite
Well, yes, it was. Kentucky wanted to remain neutral. Lincoln knowing how important Kentucky was respected it. He stated that "I think to lose Kentucky is nearly the same as to lose the whole game. ... We would as well consent to separation at once, including the surrender of the capital."

But as things often went the CSA screwed up and invaded the state in September of 1861. Most in Kentucky were pro-Union, Some 100,000 served in the Union Army only 25,000 to 40,000 served in the Confederate Army. The "Orphans" of any Union slave state never were greater than the numbers that served in the Union Army for that state.

For example, 6 Kentucky units were part of O.O. Howard's 4th Corps, A.C. which were part of Sherman's Army. There we no Kentucky CSA units I am aware of that were on the other side with Pat Cleburne.

So we can say that Kentucky was mostly on Lincoln and the Union's side. It did though refuse to ratify the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments until 1976 being the second to last state in the case of the 13th (behind Mississippi), the 3rd to the last in the case of the 14th (behind Ohio and NJ) and the second to the last in the case of the 15th (behind Tennessee).

Robin
I don't agree with the blanket amnesty that McCain-Kennedy would have done, but a large number of the illegals who have put down roots--American spouses, American children, American jobs, American homes and businesses and the like--you are going to have to normalize--legal residence, path to citizenship. For the others, they need to be found and deported and/or encouraged to leave on their own, but that is impossible until you can have a fool proof verification system and a interior enforcement system at the workplace and other points of contact with real teeth and that is impossible without a biometric national ID card. You'd also have biometric ID cards for legal residents and non-immigrants who have the right to work inside the US (F, K, H1B, etc).

I also support a guest worker program, but not one that is an end-around US immigration law which is what Kennedy supported and McCain supported. Guest workers should come, work and then eventually leave.

Only the Senate stopped McCain-Kennedy, with even more Democrats in the Senate, it may not fail this time and expect it to come back. Maybe SC Senator Graham was right when he said "Remember this day if you vote no...this bill will not come back in its current form and it is as good as it gets."

He's not perfect but we like him
Mitch had two things going for him in this one. He is highly thought of here in the Bluegrass State and his opponent has what my Independent wife called "..a slight look of weasel about him."

I think we Kentuckians are served well by two honorable and capable Senators.

Dole redux
McConnell reminds of Bob Dole: a quintessential Washington person who doesn't much care how small the minority gets so long as he is its leader.

Problem with replacement
The major problem with replacing a Congressman or Senator in a place where he not the best, is that the opposition only puts up people that you wouldn't elect as dog cather. In almost all cases, your first reaction is, "My God! How do they expect me to vote for THAT fruit cake? I guess I'll have to go with the one now in office."

I'm firmly convinced that the two parties work together to insure that many people are reelected year after year even if they are in the other party. Isn't it better to work with those you know that a stranger?

Pariah to Conservatives, George Will
Gee wiz, George, didn’t you get the memo?

Your place is at the Pseudo-Con table.

Archaic-Cons have had enough of your B.S.

Don’t you have a Beltway-Buddy cocktail party at Kathleen’s house to attend?

Akagi, you are very impressive, bested
the Plumber, who was not bad, either.

But a lot of the stats you cited about GOP and Hispanics i think you cribbed from Karl Rove in Wall Street Journal, or he from you?

I thought you made a typo, that Kentucky ratified 13th amendment in 1876, not 1976, but you were right, the latter--gulp!

But you were correct to pick GWill up on one of his later sentences about "saving the Union,", and my question is, was it worth saving, did he just save it for another 150 years or so, but now it is breaking up definitively?

Thank God For Kentucky!
GunTrash offers, "I think we Kentuckians are served well by two honorable and capable Senators"

I was raised in Cynthiana and got my first degree at UK. Being a conservative on the West coast, makes it hard to accept the political appointments that we generate, here.

Oh, well. At least my roots are doing well.

Standard Of Living - Compared To What?
Agai offers, "Of these 10, only Canada has a higher standard of living than the US."

How do you define "Standard of Living"?

According to The Economist, using an index they call Puchchasing Point Parity, in the USA, you get more bang for your buck than anywhere else in the world, except Switzerland which matches the USA.

If you are talking about a lazy man's paradise, maybe Canada will do -- well until robbing Peter to pay Paul finally kills Peter.

For my money, with it's high PPP, the USA is still the best spend.

Feet of Clay
With the great Man from Kentucky still around, Obama will daily be reminded that he, like everyone else, has feet of clay.

I work in retail making nine-fifty an hour. If I live to sixty-seven or seventy, I hope that Social Security is still there. Many, besides me and my wife, will need it.

Still another
passionless, non-committal article by George Will.
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