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Sunday, July 29, 2007
Frank Pastore :: Townhall.com Columnist
Outing the Emergents With Three Questions
by Frank Pastore
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Ahhh… The delicious irony of postmodern emergents asking me for evidence to support my arguments from last week’s “Why Al Qaeda Supports The Emergent Church”… when their relativistic worldview proclaims the futility of both evidence and argument.

I hate taking up precious column space to do this, but if I must…

Of the disapproving emails, perhaps the most-representative was this one:

“Where O where does your information and experience of the Emergent Church come from? How disturbing your message is! Inciting one corner of Christ's church against another in the name of peace is not only counter productive but is hurtful to Christ's very message. Seems that the Radical Evangelical Church has had their day. A conservative government backed by conservative Christians has only produced scandal and war. How is this a better alternative, a better way? Radical Christians added to Radical Muslims is only a recipe for disaster. With faith in Christ I listen to, eat with and love my Muslim friend. I do all these things without turning from Christ. I am a Christian Denominational Protestant. I vote, preach, and live in this country. You do not speak for me or my family, or my church, or my country. Despite your charges and meanness I remain your brother in Christ.”

Do you think he’s ever preached Jesus’ “name of peace” message of John 14:6 to his Muslim friend? Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.”

As far as my “information and experience,” that comes from the following pro-emergent sources: Brian McLaren (homepage), Doug Pagitt (homepage), Tony Jones of emergentvillage.org, Steve Chalke (Wikipedia), and perhaps the best text in support is Eddie Gibbs and Ryan Bolger’s Emerging Churches: Creating Christian Community in Postmodern Cultures (Baker, 2005) (Amazon).

My critical sources were: D. A. Carson’s Becoming Conversant with the Emerging Church: Understanding a Movement and Its Implications (Zondervan, 2005) (Amazon) – which is the “must have” of the group, R. Scott Smith’s Truth and the New Kind of Christian (Crossway, 2005) (here), and Millard Erickson, Editor of Reclaiming the Center: Confronting Evangelical Accommodation in Postmodern Times (Good News Publishing, 2004) (here).

But if you don’t want to read hundreds of pages, or waste money on books you’ll never read again, just visit these three excellent websites and read these documents – it will take you less than an hour.

• Brett Kunkle, “Essential Concerns Regarding the Emerging Church,” at Stand To Reason (www.str.org), specifically here.

• David Kowalski, “Appropriate Response to the Emerging Church Movement” at apologeticsindex.org, specifically here.

• Justin Taylor, “An Emerging Church Primer” at 9marks.org, specifically here.

All of the above – and then some – is where I got my “information on and experience of” the emerging church. Audio files are available on many of the websites, both for and against, and you can find more information than you can digest, in just a few minutes of looking around – which is why I bothered to give you the links. See for yourself.

“Emergent” is a term in need of a qualifier. It’s roots are in the postmodern rebellion against modernity. It’s use by people not in the postmodern camp is intentionally confusing. When a person says they are “emergent,” I’m immediately suspect because of the origin and common use of the term. You should be too. Perhaps “emergent” should be qualified the same way “evangelical” is. Maybe we should ask, “Are you a conservative emergent or a progressive emergent?”

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The Frank Pastore Show is heard in Los Angeles weekday afternoons on 99.5 KKLA and on the web at kkla.com, and is the winner of the 2006 National Religious Broadcasters Talk Show of the Year. Frank is a former major league pitcher with graduate degrees in both philosophy of religion and political philosophy.
 
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Gabby writes: 04, 2007 2:47 PM

Judge Roy Moore.

I feel that he was perfectly in agreement with the letter of the constitution and the spirit of it.

His statue was privately funded and in no way violated the precepts of the first amendment which cleary, in black and white, state that CONGRESS shall not establish...religion..etc.

Judge Moore was the judiciary, was not congress and established nothing. He was railroaded.

DESKJOCKEY RESPONDS

I could see the US congress making a law to remove religion from Federal courts. They have no authority over state courts except for limited issues in an appellate function. As the SC took it upon itself to evolve into the concept of “incorporation” they now have authority over how many inches of toilet paper you wipe yourself with. Moore was specifically given the job to decorate the court. He fulfilled his function to the best of his ability. The real problem is the left was sending out fundraisers about Moore and the 10 commandments saying do you want this for a Supreme Court Justice and the end to abortion, check off $10, $25, $50, $1,000 or whatever you can give. That was the issue and Bush, the executive branch,removed it. We must remember we had state religions and religious test instituted after the Constitution was signed, by some of the drafters of the First Amendment to boot. So they had a very different understanding than our activist courts of today.

lonestarblues writes: 02, 2007 7:35 AM


You say "I agree that the religious right in the past several years is striking back."

Making those who do not only liberal activists, asking government to interfere in our lives, but also flip floppers after years of decrying liberal activism.

I think the Founders envisioned this very thing. See Madison's Federalist 10.

DESKJOCKEY REPSONDS

I think the anti-federalist envisioned it.

http://www.constitution.org/afp/pennmi00.htm
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