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Monday, March 09, 2009
Frank Gaffney :: Townhall.com Columnist
Farewell to Britain
by Frank Gaffney
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LONDON - The British are understandably mystified. Long accustomed to a "special relationship" with the United States, they are trying to figure out why the latter's likeable new president would be going to such lengths to distance himself from the country that has for generations been America's closest ally.

First, there was Barack Obama's decision to return the Churchill bust that had graced the Oval Office since then-Prime Minister Tony Blair gave it to George W. Bush as a post-9/11 gesture of solidarity. Then, there were the successive affronts during the visit by Blair's successor, Gordon Brown, to Washington last week: A seemingly thoughtless official gift (a set of DVDs of popular American films); a painfully chilly and brief press availability before the start of the two men's private meeting; and no formal joint press conference of the kind Bush afforded Blair on all but one of numerous visits to Washington (the exception a hastily arranged trip right after the September 11 attacks).

The British press has offered several face-saving explanations for these serial rudenesses. Perhaps Obama is "exhausted." Alternatively, he is simply "focused elsewhere" in the midst of cratering capital markets, collapsing automakers and skyrocketing unemployment.

The real answer, however, was supplied by an unnamed State Department official whom London's Sunday Telegraph reported on March 8 "reacted with fury" when asked by the paper why the Brown visit was so, er, "low-key." According to the Telegraph: "The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship. ‘There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment.'"

Such a comment by a representative of the State Department - an institution that never saw a foreign government it wanted to offend - is a sign of how serious Team Obama is about "resetting" the U.S.-U.K. relationship. Of course, as that term applies to friendly Britain, it means something very different than when used to describe the administration's desire for improved ties with America's enemies, actual or potential, like Russia, Iran and "Palestine."

(Consider, for example, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's tendering to her Russian counterpart a symbolic "Reset" button - one whose label, incredibly, used instead the Russians' word for "overload." This unserious conduct in the face of the Kremlin's increasing aggressiveness at America's expense constituted the most appalling and degrading public spectacle by the top U.S. diplomat since her husband's appointee, Madeleine Albright, danced with North Korean despot Kim Jong Il in 2000.)

Arguably, the need for a special relationship with Great Britain rooted in shared Western values and a mutual commitment to the common defense is as great today as at anytime since World War II. Unfortunately, Gordon Brown's government is conducting itself in ways that undermine those values and jeopardize the security of the Free World. Particularly worrying are British concessions to the repressive and seditious theo-political-legal program authoritative Islam calls "Shariah":

- Shariah-Compliant Finance (SCF): Even though promoters of this industry, like "Shariah advisor" and al-Jazeera host Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, have described SCF as "financial jihad" and al Qaeda has publicly embraced its practice, Mr. Brown has declared he wants Britain to be the world capital of Shariah finance.

- Shariah courts: Brown's government has begun institutionalizing the practice of separate legal systems for Muslims with the proliferation of "family law" courts where women can be treated, in accordance with Shariah, as second-class citizens - less-than-equal to male Muslims and entitled to a fraction of the property due the latter in the adjudication of divorce or testate matters.

- Terrorism charities: The British government has refused to take punitive action against British-based Islamic "charities" that provide money to terrorist organizations. The latest is Interpal, a Palestinian organization that even the BBC was able to figure out provides support to Hamas.

- Engaging with terrorists: British civil servants are paying thousands of dollars to attend a conference next month on "Political Islam" at which Ibrahim Moussawi has been invited to speak. Moussawi is a top propagandist for Hezbollah. The same Brown government that prevented Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders from presenting his film "Fitna" to the House of Lords on the grounds that he constituted too much of a threat to "community harmony" is evidently untroubled by having a flak for terrorists inciting in the U.K.

The irony of the evident distancing from Britain by the Obama administration is that Brown's government is pursuing policies that Barack Obama seemingly espouses. The U.S. taxpayer now owns most of AIG and Citigroup, two companies massively engaged in Shariah-compliant transactions, at odds with our constitutional separation of church and state.

In this and other ways, Mr. Obama is effectively acquiescing to Islamists' demands to establish here as in the U.K. their own, "parallel" society observing Shariah rules, not the laws of the land. Among the concessions in the works appears to be bans on so-called "hate speech" that defames Islam, an idea implicit in the President's injunction to use "respectful language" towards Muslims.

Last week, moreover, Hillary Clinton effectively promised a whopping $900 million charitable contribution from the U.S. taxpayer to Hamas - or at least a future Hamas-Fatah "unity" government. This is a part of the President's determination to reset Mideast diplomacy by forging what might be called "special relationships" not only with Syria and Iran but the major terrorist organizations they sponsor, Hamas and Hezbollah.

As the Free World increasingly engages in submission to Shariah, it appears the special U.S. tie to the U.K. that served to block the global ambitions of successive totalitarian ideologies will no longer operate. Under President Obama, the question increasingly is: Will the U.S. perform that vital role alone, or succumb as Britain is doing to what Islam scholar Robert Spencer calls the "Stealth Jihad" now being mounted against every freedom-loving country?

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Good to know
that Obama has decided to alienate our friends and appease our enemies.

I fear for our security. On another level I am embarrassed by the rudeness of the Obamas towards Great Britain.

The only explanation is that the Obamas are simply ill-bred or that they truly hate Western Europe and all things "white" in their world view.

Apparently, in college Michelle wrote in papers that she essentially despised "white" England.

I'll tell you what though, I will not hold it against England if they choose not to be our allies in wars and foreign policy in the future as the Obama administration has told them that they have no special relationship.

I'll be grinning if the UK starts to vote against the U.S. at the UN.

You know
during the campaign we were told to just ignore Obama's associations and particularly Rev. Wright.

Does anyone find it interesting that Obama is going out of his way to befriend Muslims including terrorist states and oranizations while at the same time funding attacks on Israel. Didn't Wright have whole sermons filled with anti-semitism?

Then there were the sermons filled with anti-white hate and low and behold Obama is trying to disassociate our nation from the evil whites in GB.

I don't think this is coincidental.

lulu
you obviously did not even read the column.

it is britain who is setting up separate courts for sharia law and forcing its people to attend conferences on islam.

"Engaging with terrorists: British civil servants are paying thousands of dollars to attend a conference next month on "Political Islam" at which Ibrahim Moussawi has been invited to speak. Moussawi is a top propagandist for Hezbollah. The same Brown government that prevented Dutch parliamentarian Geert Wilders from presenting his film "Fitna" to the House of Lords on the grounds that he constituted too much of a threat to "community harmony" is evidently untroubled by having a flak for terrorists inciting in the U.K."


you can and will find fault with obama every day but to not even recoginze that britain under brown is more concilatory towards islam than obama is just narrow minded.

A few things
First, the State Department is stock full of idiots and has been for years so take what any of them say from the Secretary of State (no matter who it is--Rice, Powell, Clinton) on down with a grain of salt.

Second, Russia is acting the way it is because from their point of view, the US is being aggressive toward them--Eastern Europe in NATO, states that were once part of the USSR in NATO? Putting missiles and US troops in Eastern Europe, troops in the former Central Asian Republics?

How would the US react if Mexico was in a Chinese-led "defensive" alliance? And NATO sure was that over Kosovo wasn't it? Tell me again when Serbia attacked a NATO country? Didn't stop NATO from bombing Serbia for 70+ days. Would the US react kindly to Chinese troops in Mexico? Or Chinese "defensive" missiles in Venezuela?

As for the Anglo-US relationship. Britannia no longer rules the waves. It is a relatively small country (60 million people), it is dominated by its relationship in the EU and its has a GDP less than 1/3 of China's and nearly the size of Russia's. Russia and China are America's future--the UK the past. The UK is important because it often acts like America's lapdog in regards to voting in the UNSC and following US-leads in sending troops such as Iraq, but long strategic interests--countries like China, Mexico and Russia are more critical. The UK is about as important as France so in that way, the Anglo-American relationship is no longer special. The UK is more important than say the Republic of Guinea-Bissau, but compared to China and Russia, nothing special.

Gaffney can feel free to sing "Rule, Britannia!" but those days are done.


LOOK OUT AMERICA HERE IT COMES
keep on thinking it wont happen here
you all sheeply will be on your knees fives times a day praying, I'd rather die first.
thank you so much for your emotional vote for change.

In this and other ways, Mr. Obama is effectively acquiescing to Islamists' demands to establish here as in the U.K. their own, "parallel" society observing Shariah rules, not the laws of the land. Among the concessions in the works appears to be bans on so-called "hate speech" that defames Islam, an idea implicit in the President's injunction to use "respectful language" towards Muslims.

You can always depend on people
to do what they have always done.

O went to a madrassa in Indonesia where his stepfather enrolled him from 4-7, one's most formative primary years. (The school later became a private W. religious school, but what it started out as is what O imbibed first.)

He *became* a Christian at 26 supposedly, so the inference is he was something else until then--my gosh, that must have been a Muslim.

His own memoirs say he would side with Muslims if world catastrophe occurred.

He's sending $600,000,000 *stimulus* money overseas to Hamas to rebuild Gaza and promote abortion, which Muslims must have little take on, as death seems a primary goal of their various cultures.

Sec. of Bait and Swith has told IRAN it should share in talks with Afghanistan and Pakistan.

He's precipitously withdrawing troops from Iraq, before the ONLY dem. Muslim-Arab country gets firmly established.

And I don't agree with Brtain's stupid multi-cultural suicide dance it is doing with its Muslim pop., but Eng. is still the source of our language, most of the bases for our most imp. pub. documents, and mother country of the original colonies.

The O administration has no finesse or class. They are IL. hoodlums. Britain is likely just one of many allies the Big O promised closer ties with (Bush ruined them, remember) that will be ditched in order to *grow* alliances with thugocracies like Russia, N. Korea, and Venezeuela.

If you voted for this mess, I hope every time you look in the mirror, it cracks.

Lulu
The UK has and always has voted against the US at the UN when it suited its purposes. The UK is not a clone of the US--despite what others in the EU may think.

England? How about Wales and Scotland? Northern Ireland? Let's be honest. While the UK votes in the UN have helped to some degree, UK forces have been little more than token forces. The days of military glory for the UK are long past. The Japanese and Germans put a final stake through that in WWII--the British Empire won (thanks to their American cousins), but the effort doomed the empire. The UK provided only 15% or so of the forces in Iraq. In 1991 about the same--45,000 so even less--about 5%. It took a good three months for them to defeat a third rate military--Argentina in 1982. If the UK decided not to assist the US in its wars it wouldn't be all that great of a loss. Votes in the UN are more critical but still you aren't going to get the UK to veto something the US wants if China, Russia and France are also backing it. The sad truth, is the UK just isn't all that important any more. It has been a power in decline since the end of WWI and that slide is ongoing. Sorry Anglophiles, maybe drown your sorrows in a pint of Bass or something.




DVDs?

Gordon Brown honors 'That One' with thoughtful gifts of a desk pen holder made from the timbers of the anti-slave ship HMS Gannet, a framed commissioning certificate of the HMS Resolute, and a first edition set of a 7 volume Winston Churchill biography, and Hopey Changey reciprocates with 25 DVDs.

You're a class act ovomit.
What gives, was the home shopping channel out of the snuggie and ginzu steak knives?


ChristianLib
I believe it was you, not LuLu who did not read the entire column. I believe the point of the column was to lift the curtain on how Obama is following the footsteps of the UK - and is at odds with the Good of England, our allies.

No, that is maybe not Your allies, but ours that do not believe it is in our interest to use our money to fund ANY middle eastern organizations. Most of us would prefer not to continue to fund Israel as well - not with Tax Payer Funds anyway. For the US to allow US citizens to send funding to Israel privately is never an issue.

It is our allies who are not in favor of falling victim or pacifying any sort of Shariah law.

This isn't such a difficult thing to understand, nobama and his wife have hated the white world (which the UK is part of), evidenced from her own writings . They have detested the 'system' they believe is the empowerment of enslavement. They don't get the "ism's" are caused by the Liberal agenda. But now that he is in charge of the prison, he isn't interested in releasing any of the wrongly accused, he is taking delight in inflicting his own retribution on what he sees as the 'offenders'.

This isn't even a slippery slope and while I am not an attorney, I cannot believe that even the ACLU is not about to jump all over this as a case for treason. Reaching out and potentially funding world aggressors and certainly acknowledged Terrorist enemies of the United States is leading me to believe we may not only have a Civil War around the corner, but potentially WW III - The Holy War, too.

He no longer has any credibility or Hope for Positive Change in my eyes.




Renny
"O went to a madrassa in Indonesia where his stepfather enrolled him from 4-7, one's most formative primary years. (The school later became a private W. religious school, but what it started out as is what O imbibed first.)"

His stepdad wasn't all that religious and madrassa simply means school. He also went to a Catholic school in Jakarta, does that make him a Catholic? The "madrassa" he went to was a public school in Jakarta.


christian hater
you remain amongst the stupidest posters to infest these threadfs. We constantly hear of your your hatred of bush and the repubs and your love of socialism.

It comes as no surprise that the left is engaging in a love affair with the muzzies. Now you insist that having sharia on equal footing with english law is no problem

Obviously you don't undertstand how a common set of laws and values unites a society. As long as minorities get special rights and tratments they undermine a society.

But the equivilent would be should calif decide there are separate laws and consequences for the gay and lesbian crowd at the expense of the other citizens in calif.

But then again you would support this idea as well. But we already know how much you hate this country as you advocate for anything and everything that undermines our value system.

But you still have not defended the huge deficits engineered by your savior and messiah and his dim enablers in congress. You overlook your messiah's constant need to lie about what he is doing and how he is causing the continued economic meltdown with his reckless spending

But what's worse is we learn how much you hate your children and possible grandchildren that you condemn them to a life of poverty paying off the debts of your messiah.

Since you are a part time school teacher in bankrupt calif you won't be able to cushion them against economic chaos, but then you are so in love with you savior posing as president, he can do no wrong and you will continue to worship at his feet not matter how much he works to undermine the country and the capitalism that rewards the earners of this country rather than his plan to enrich the losers who demand but are too lazy and too stupid to take care of themselves

Why would anyone choose Sharia?
I have long maintained that everyone in hell wants to be there. What boggles my mind is the mental gymnastics needed to convince oneself to walk head held high into it. I think my questions are being answered when I see, for example, rabid feminists (or at least the organization that they are beholden to, the Democratic Party) turn a blind eye to something like Sharian law. Why aren't there protests in the street? Welcome them to hell's anteroom.

Strong Enemies
Our enemies both at home and abroad are stronger than us. You don't think so?

The only reason America has ever become a world power with the ability to defend itself against all comers is the grace, help, and blessing of God.

Today a syndicated article states a recent poll of Americans reveals increasing numbers of citizens under "Old Glory" state that they are atheist or agnostic (woosy atheist).

Brilliant!

Akagi !


United States National Interests call for a Level of Strong Foreign Relations Ties with Nuclear Power , Fellow NATO Member , Fellow U.N. Permanent Member of Security Council,and sharer and host of U.S.Military Bases , The United Kingdom.

U.S. Ties to The U.K. Trump your Taiwan Firster Agenda.

"The British Are Going"
Nobody mentioned that Obama's father came from Kenya, which used to be a British colonial possession, I believe. In fact, his father was a prominent figure in the government before he died in a car accident.

The British, of whom many of us are descendants, obviously are through as a great nation. They are overwhelmed by political correctness and probably in another 25, or 50, years cease to exist as a great power or even a medium power.

In the end game, populations count more than anything else in the survival of cultures. With their mad dash to abort their young the English-speaking countries are going to follow the British down the drain.

Meanwhile, the Muslim countries, which support violence against women, homosexuals, and non-Muslims, stand adamantly against abortion--as a result, their populations will continue to rise and eventually take over the world.

As he mentioned in one of his books, Obama, I believe, stands with the Muslims.

Has anybody started a 12-step program for those who regret their vote for Obama yet?

Suurprised?
I am suprised the butt kissing libs arent shouting how we should be like Europe and have shariah law here in America like the UK but I guess that will come soon enough. Whats not surprising is the ineptness of the state dept. Brain dead zombies all of them.

On ''Shariah-Compliant Finance''
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Taking this separately, shari'a-compliant finance (SCF) is nothing more than a species of "front-loading" on loans, rolling the calculated anticipated interest costs into the principal in order to maintain a silly fiction that interest is not being charged.

Only the mind of a religious idiot ("religiot") could take such a transaction as compliant with the spirit and intent of Islamic law.

But the religious True Believer is, indeed, a bloody idiot, and so this kind of fiction is welcomed as yet another example of human ingenuity addressing the bone-headedness of religion.

Bad law makes for hard cases. Thus with shari'a.



As for our Miscegenated Messiah's frosty attitude toward Great Britain, consider where he was born.

Remember, Kenya was a British colony.

Might be some considerable resentment on the part of Mocha Marvin - dreaming of his father as well as his birthplace - for what Mr. Brown's predecessors did to the Mau Mau back in the '50s.


u-Suthu, Mr. President! Got your panga all nice and sharp for some whitey-chopping?

--

koontalk
i am an elected school board member.

i think bush is a good person just had bad advice.

bush did leave with a 1.7 trillion dollar debt so by your own implication, he also hated america.

but now i know who your are.

you are the realcactushead who got banned for your racist and ugly remarks.

Funny, the BBC
doesn't have any of the nonsense that Gaffney spouts here.


christian hater
as usual you are wrong. But you are the last to complain about anyone being hater. You are that small minded that you will readily drop to your knees for your messiah and never stop your hatred of the repubs.

I am new to these threads as a poster but am familiar with your lunacy. But what I can't stomach is hypocrites like you who profess to be fairminded when you are the most narrow minded of all the losers from the left weho show up here.

But if you are an example of someone on a school board it is easy to understand why calif has some of the worse schools in the country.

But then again you are that much of a loser that you deserve everything that happens to you in calif. I can see how happy you are that you aren't getting your tax refund but celebrate the failed policies of the dims running the calif govt.

But finally one thing I am glad about is that I am not you. It must be a real problem for losers like you to have to twist yourselves in knots to defend the liar infesting the white house.

Tim
I said the US was tilting toward China and Russia--neither of which could be considered overly friendly to Taiwan.

christianlib:

Bush added 5 trillion, not 1.7--if only he had added 1.7, then the US would be at 6.7 trillion and not nearly 11. I do think Bush was a good person, just not very bright.

Jerseyvet:

It ceased to be a great nation around 1917 and was pretty much toast by 1945.

christianlib
Oh I read the column I'm just more concerned about the U.S. aspect as I live here. Also, much as I like GB and think they should have been treated better by the ill-mannered one and his wife I also know that longterm they are a lost cause like their European neighbors. Eventually, many countries in Western Europe along with the UK will be Muslim it's basic demographics.

Robert
Read Mark Steyn's book: America Alone the end of the world as we know it he cites multiple examples from the british press outlining the take over of england by muslim fundementalists. Its clear to everyone but you whats happening.

Just can't wait
I just can't wait to see how the libs will deal with sharia law that does not permit homosexuals....

Another well thought out lib idea

davpatt3
"The only reason America has ever become a world power with the ability to defend itself against all comers is the grace, help, and blessing of God."

Yes. Being isolated by two major oceans that kept enemies at bay and weak countries to both the south and north had nothing to do with it--it was all God's will. He has a giant Risk Game and throws dice to see which country he favors on a given century--why do you think the UK hit hard times? God changed sides. Didn't you get the memo?

Read this:

http://combinedfleet.com/economic.htm

The US didn't defeat Japan because of God, the US defeated Japan because the US was a giant compared to the economic and military resources each could muster. Even if ther Kido Butai had sunk every CV the US had that day at Miday and not lost a single one of its own Japan still loses.


Laughing at the Irony
Well you Europeans(especially you Brits) wanted him now deal with it. To your thinking Bush was evil personified and Obama,once elected, will do things our way again and we can all sing Kumbaya together.

Tragically I find no true joy in being right about this. I just wonder how long and hard your and our MSM will continue to defend this man. Joseph Goebbels could not have spewed forth more propaganda in his time than the Obama-loving press has in recent weeks. Exhausted? Focused Elsewhere? Can you imagine Bush getting the same defense from the media?

Again I both laugh and cry at the irony.


Shambolic
More disconcerting than the Obama administration haughty contempt for the U.K, is Britain’s acquiescence and courting of Arab Islam.

To be sure the Arabists at Whitehall have historically manned the corridors and set the tone of Britain’s great power, ‘cozy’ with Arabia and Muslim Arabs. This newest lurch toward assimilation of legal systems and financial transactions transcends all previous orientations and appears as deadly as seppuku.

Mr. Brown is a short termer. God willing, his successor will not fear nor fear the Muslim voters in Britain and will scrub the country of all these local Sharia courts and the banking systems that have the taint of radical Islam to them.

When Mr. Obama is jettisoned in four years or politically neutered in two years, the normal ‘entretien’ between Britain and America can again join at the mid-Atlantic where it so normally belongs.

Mr. Obama and his cadres simply cannot abide England’s involvement in the Iraq war. After all, Mr. Obama is in the White House because of one speech he delivered when it meant nothing but became something to the military haters in our land.

Take heart, Mr. Obama is only President by 53% of the recent vote after a tough sled in a war and a bad turn in the economy. He wouldn’t get that number today. His time is calendared and known. Just hold on. We’ll make it.

Shambolic

More disconcerting than the Obama administration’s haughty contempt for the U.K, is Britain’s acquiescence and courting of Arab Islam.

To be sure the Arabists at Whitehall have historically manned the corridors and set the tone of Britain’s great power, ‘cozy’ with Arabia and Muslim Arabs. This newest lurch toward assimilation of legal systems and financial transactions transcends all previous orientations and appears as deadly as seppuku.

Mr. Brown is a short termer. God willing, his successor will not fear nor fear the Muslim voters in Britain and will scrub the country of all these local Sharia courts and the banking systems that have the taint of radical Islam to them.

When Mr. Obama is jettisoned in four years or politically neutered in two years, the normal ‘entretien’ between Britain and America can again join at the mid-Atlantic where it so normally belongs.

Mr. Obama and his cadres simply cannot abide England’s involvement in the Iraq war. After all, Mr. Obama is in the White House because of one speech he delivered when it meant nothing but became something to the military haters in our land.

Take heart, Mr. Obama is only President by 53% of the recent vote after a tough sled in a war and a bad turn in the economy. He wouldn’t get that number today. His time is calendared and known. Just hold on. We’ll make it.

Is it any surprise?
Is it any surprise that the State Department continues to undermine US policy? Good column and mostly thoughtful comments.

Akaqi
We defeated Japan becaused we bombed the **** out of them. We took away their will to keep fighting. Its exactly what we need to do with islam but no one has the guts amymore. Its obviously more important to be tolerant and diverse then direct and straight-forward. Oh was that non-PC to say "straight"?

harold f donahue
i have been posting here for over 3 years.

you have never before responded to any of my posts.

i have made many conservative friends here and we have civil and enjoyable debates.

we don't agree much but never-the-less show respect.

because you are new here i will give you the benefit of the doubt and continue to be respectful to you although you have not shown me the same courtesy.

actually my only messiah is Jesus Christ and i do not hate republicans. do you hate democrats?

i may not agree with certain policies but i certainly do not hate any of them.

finally, you are very misinformed when it comes to california, i have my tax return from the state already.

if you have something of substance to debate please let me know.

Akagi - On flirting with annexation
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Speaking of Taiwan (and our State Department's odious cuddling-up to the regimes in Beijing and Moscow), take into consideration the notion of expanding these United States.


How might the people of Taiwan receive the notion of petitioning for annexation as America's 51st state?

How might the folk of troubled "Kurdistan"?

Forget about "la Reconquista." Let's rip off the whole northern tier of Mexican states -

(( where you find "Haz Patria! Mata un Chilango!" spray-painted on highway overpasses to comment on the locals' stark hatred for Mexico City and all pertaining thereunto ))

- and welcome their new Representatives and Senators into the chambers on Capitol Hill.


While Mrs. Soetoro's Baby Boy Barry dreams of his deadbeat daddy, I dream about U.S. borders fitting right up against the boundaries of Turkey and Iran, assuring both countries of reliable NCA stability upon which to predicate their own policies of domestic peace.

I think about how much more prosperous would be the future for the people of Communist China once they're relieved of the angst over Taiwanese agitation and resentment.

Would the western provinces of Canada like to get shed of the Québécois for good and all? How about a swap? We'll take Alberta and Manitoba and Saskatchewan and British Columbia and anybody else who wants to "rotate the border," and the rump remaining can have Michael Moore.


As long as the incoming polities are willing to swear a solemn vow to support and defend the U.S. Constitution from all enemies - Democrat and Republican - I'd be happy to have 'em as countrymen.

Thoughts on this?

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Akagi !

I said U.S. Ties To The U.K. Trump your Taiwan Firster Agenda.

You are an ingrate Taiwan Firster,who lacks respect for The U.S. and Our Ally The U.K.




I just can't wait ....
I can't wait to see the reception that Netanyahu gets from Obama...and Raul Castro!

It's a new era! Welcome to the Third World, Americans!

Tim
No need for me to respect the UK? Why should I?

Lack of respect for the US? Perhaps, if you'd explain to me how you define respect that may or may not be true.

Great post 'n' of FL
"We defeated Japan becaused we bombed the **** out of them... Its exactly what we need to do with islam but no one has the guts amymore."

I like the way you think. One month into Iraq, we should have made sharp left and right turns into Syria and Iran, and lopped off the head of this snake.

Unfortunately, the left (media included) are more concerned about world opinion than they are about defense of their own nation.

Red Button - How was that professional?
What idiot though that up? If they got the description right, would that make it a smart idea? That they got it wrong, takes it up 2 levels. And how about that gift to Brown? I think we're in trouble.

Hamas
900,000 million for Hamas. Dvd's for UK. You Obama supporters must really be proud.

Can't Wait For The Backlash
Western liberals are taking the rope they have been given, wrapped it round their necks and are now building steps higher than the normal gallows and preparing to jump off.

They fail to recognize that there are huge percentages of western nation's populations (very probably a majority) who still value freedom and when they reach the breaking point ... will explode.

Explode into violent retribution. In this nation the French Revolution will be their model. They shall rid themselves of these totalitarian fools who have taken over the media, academia, the justice system and Washington DC. Most likely the purges will be doubly violent and thorough in Europe.

The Tree of Liberty is much overdue for watering.

SJ
There is a club (organization) in Taiwan called Club 51 which advocates Taiwan as the 51st state. There is no support for this among the Taiwanese even less than the small number that support unification (10%) nor in the US and I doubt the US would want to go to war to add Taiwan as the 51st state. The US had it's chance on Taiwan in 1943 and again in 1945 and blew it.

I think many Mexicans might like that, trouble is few Americans would.

I also would say the PRC is no longer communist and their prosperity would not be impacted by Taiwan one way or the other. Most people like to be masters of their own house and I don't see a great clamoring for places to join the US. I'd oppose Taiwan's entry into the US no less than it's entry into China. I don't want it to be the 51st state no less than I'd want to see it as the 23rd Chinese province or as the 48th through 55th prefecture of Japan (assuming the same number it had in 1945 of 8 Taiwan prefectures added to Japan's 47 today).


Insulting Oldest Friend... thought out?
Consider that Obama comes into office with absolutely no foreign policy experience . Yet within a few weeks of taking the job, he insults our oldest friend. Now combine that with Clinton's "red button" fiasco. Do you see a pattern?

Corndog and n
Japan? Where is the capital of Islamic radical, Inc? Where is its navy? Its army? Its industry? You can try to go to war with the whole of Islam, but the last time you tried that it didn't pan out too well.

And Japan finally decided to surrender thanks to the Soviets. The two atomic bombs did not cause the Japanese to surrender. If the Americans dropped more would it have been enough? Perhaps, who knows. But without the Soviet betrayal on August 8, Japan would have gone on fighting--and did actually. The cabinet was told on August 6th that the Americans may have 100 or more of these things. The Japanese cabinet expected more attacks and when the second was dropped on August 9, the cabinet hardly even took notice of it. But even if what you claim was true, tell me where Islam's Hiroshima is? Mecca? Going to pull a Tancredo? Tell me in advance though because I'd want to get as far away from the US as I could once you did that--trust me--that won't turn out well.

No great news--
It is no surprise that probably Limeyland england will become Limeyistan with Londonistan as the mecca of that country. If the limeys want us to tolerate the radical muslims, I say get out of town. It seems to be well known that the muslims want to destroy the Christians and Jews and probably those of us who worship the Viking Gods of Valhalla because of our ethnic background. Well, I will stand and fight with the Jews and Christians all the way on this one. USA USA USA.

HATRED AT ITS BEST
THERE IS NOONE LEFT TO BLAME BUT OBAMA.

Corndog
Its sad we dont let our military do what it was designed to do. Had we been aggressive in Iraq from the start I dare say we could have saved 1000s of lives. Islam has the patience to complete its desired goals. Suicide bombers are praised as heroes. How do you reason with a people who not only dont fear death but welcome it? Mutual destruction was always a fear that brought parties to bargining tables. That fear is absent in Islam. The birth rate of muslims is way beyond those of most western societies, so they will be coming and coming for a long time!

Akaqi
As to Japan, I would have dropped as many bombs as I needed until there wasn't a one left.

Where do rats go when the building they are in burns to the ground? You kill as many as you can while they scatter then move onto the next building. Make no mistake about it Akaqi, islam will patiently wait us out and when they have finally worn enough of us down so they think like you then they will finish us off. What dont you get? Do you think when they cometo your door they will read these posts and say "Akaqi is a nice guy lets not lop his head off?"

n
Think like me? In what way? So the US wasn't aggressive enough in Iraq? Well, what do you expect with 1/3 of the troops it had in 1991 and no real plan because idiots had convinced Bush the simple that the people would be throwing flowers at their feet. Didn't work out that way.

You might note that until the US invaded that Iraq was a secular, Arab socialist state and Saddam feared the Islamic crazies as much as you do.

You might be also suprised that in much of the Islamic world people do live in peace. Has Turkey tried to go back into SE Europe? Does Malaysia have its eyes on the Philippines?


Leaders
It just goes to show what happens when we put morally bankrupt "smart" people in office.

Akaqi
Yes think like you. Some day I would love to hear your masterplan for dealing with islam. As to size of the military, who was president in 91? Senior bush who was no better then his son. he should have finished off saddam in the gulf war but caved. The idiots you talk about that adviced the jr bush, were they military?

saddam feared islamic crazies so much he paid out rewards to families of suicide bombers. Wha tare you suggesting, that he paid them off so they wouold bomb his house?

I dont care about the most that want to live in peace, I care about those that want to destroy us. If they love peace so much why dont we hear more from them. They should be on every channel every day renouncing the actions of the violent ones. Where are they? I would thin kthat would be great fodder for the networks who I bet would love to show obambi as a uniter as opposed to bush. Wher are they?

n
For paying off the Palestinian families of suicide bombers, so does the leadership of every Gulf State. So when is the US going to invade them?

Bush was correct in 1991 for not going after Saddam. A number of ex-Bush 41 officials warned Bush 43 not to do it and he did anyway. If Bush had tried to take out Saddam it would have violated the terms of the UN mandate and the last time the US tried that was in October of 1950 and we all know how that movie ended.

And n, how do you know what they say? You speak Malay? Watch much Malay tv do we?

You don't care about those that want to live in peace--great, only care about the radicals? But how do you plan to do to the radicals what the US did to Japan. Is bombing Kuala Lumpur a wise choice you think?


As a
first and second generation American of British descent, and still having family (and friends of my family here from the war) I am sick at heart to see how Britain has fallen into such a decline. I was raised on my British heritage
by my immigrant family, they were proud of their defiance of "jerry" during the war and loved Churchill. Now, the ethnic Brits have been demoralized by the socialism that's been
their government for decades. Brown is a fool,
he's rolling over for the enemies of his own
people. Having said that the bigger fool that even bigger fools sent to the white house and his "classy" wife have not only insulted the Brits, but those of us whose heritage is British. But I said it on an early thread, it's
his classic RACISM, Brown and ethnic Brits are white. He hates them and American whites equally. The biggest difference is the socialist/commies disarmed the British public
before they began their politically correct war on their own people. They may try here but I don't think they will win this one..it ain't just conservatives and Republicans who support the second amendment. I'm one and I'm scared of guns stemming from a near miss as a child when "community organizers" came in as a union and caused a mob scene. But my husband and I are NRA.
And we thought the Clintons were gauche? and low class..I think they have just been redefined.

Submission to Shariah?
"As the Free World increasingly engages in submission to Shariah"

So, where might those of us who refuse to "submit" carve out a new country that resembles the one once called "America"?

n - On Iraq
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Writes n:

"saddam [the Ba'athist Hussein, not our current National Socialist Hussein] feared islamic crazies so much he paid out rewards to families of suicide bombers. What are you suggesting, that he paid them off so they wouold bomb his house?"


To a very great extent, the late Saddam Hussein's very public compensations paid to the families of Semtex-wearing murdering fellahin were indeed made out of well-reasoned fears of Islamic purists' hostility towards his regime.

(( Characterization of which as "secular" is bloody ludicrous, the Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party of Iraq having been no less Islamically establishmentarian than any other flock of criminous wogs masquerading as a lawful government in the Middle East. ))

Being a politician as well as a murdering, raping, sadistic thug, the Capo di Tutti Capi of the Tikriti Mafia understood that public fence-mending was necessary to maintain the illusion of what passes for political legitimacy in that part of the world crippled by Islam.



Any comment on the Moolie Marxist's Kikuyu connection, and his hatred of Great Britain for the very effective suppression of the Mau Mau uprisings in Barry's homeland back during the 1950s?

Might be the best possible explanation for his frosty treatment of Mr. Brown and his State Department's studied insults of the United Kingdom.

--

Let's see. . .
The U.K., run by idiots, is sinking under the burdens of socialism, shariah, and profound silliness and becoming a less reliable and less desirable partner. The Obama administration, which consists mainly of idiots, has set out to make new friends of our mortal enemies. Undaunted by its initial failures, it feels free to jettison a nominal ally that has given us our predominant language, our legal system, occasional moral support, and half the programming on PBS.

Now that I have a clearer idea of what's going on, I feel much better.

America Will Never Accept Shariah.
"Why not?", you ask. Because we have Sean Penn, Timothy Robbins, Bill Maher, etc. to stand up to them when they try to attack gay rights, womens rights, and our other rights. How do you think the Islamists will like the films Hollywood produces? They won't. But with the Hollywood actors like Penn and cable TV nobodies like Bill Maher, the Islamists won't dare to do anything about the "Hollywood supported" lifestyles which would run counter to Shariah law. Relax. Those bozos in Hollywood got us covered. We won't need our second amendment with Sean Penn and Bill Maher protecting our first amendment. Forget about buying any more firearms and ammo. We just don't need it. (sarcasm alert for those of you in Rio Linda)

Finally
something they can't blame on Bush. These blunders are all on Obama. If Obama is "exhausted" after 6 weeks, maybe he should quit. Obviously the job is too much for him. A few more mistakes like this in foreign policy, plus the economic failures and even the MSM will see what an inexperienced moron we have as president.

Healing Himself
Obama can hate whitey and "diss" Britain all he wants but it can't purge all the rage he feels towards his Kenyan father who abandoned him.


more US policy based on racist grudges..

In my opinion, Gordon Brown is a socialist Clown, and a PC mooslum butt-kisser.. BHO's Snub of Brown is ironic, since BO's appeasing, Muslim-Apologist, Socialist policies are so similar to Brown's.. hehe

Could it be that BHO is displaying the chip on his shoulder towards our British Friends & Allies because those White Man Brits' had a historical stake in the African slave trade.. Of course, the Brits (Christians) were also the first ones to abolish slavery.. Likewise, the UK Telegraph speculated that BO's exhibition of returning Churchhill's Bust may have been related to his grudge against the Brits who had colonized African countries including his home country of Kenya etc..

IOW, BHO's lifetime of Socialist & toxic Black Liberation indoctrinations, with his festering racial resentments, will continue to do us all a world of good..

Sigh
"The irony of the evident distancing from Britain by the Obama administration is that Brown's government is pursuing policies that Barack Obama seemingly espouses."

I know, I know ... don't remind me.

The truth about Obama is showing
Obama hates white Europeans. Face it. He is determined to cut off all ties with any country that does not have as its greatest population people of color. He belonged to an Afrocentric church and now says he never heard any white hatred talk in it. He loves Muslim countries since he spent some of his childhood in one and he feels closer to those countries than ones with white people. Let's face it. Our president is a bigot. He has spit in the face of one of our greatest allies and do not be surprised if there is more of this to come. Worst president ever in the history of our country.

Carlos
You "think" we're in trouble? We are in the deepest s@#$ you have ever seen and I don't usually swear, but this Obama has me saying one or two curse words a day and I must stop. He is horrible with a capital "H" and he must be stopped. The midterm election is the only thing that might save us if we get the "right" people in.

Poor tired Obama
Almost every day we hear how "exhausted" Obama is. He hasn't even served three months and he has spent more time out of the white house than in. Remember how Bush was put down for going to his ranch in Texas once, maybe twice a year? This man in office now does not have what it takes and we are seeing it more and more every passing week. Just how long will the MSM keep holding this man up by his bootstraps? He is going to fail and fail miserably and it won't be because of anything Rush Limbaugh has said about him and it won't be Bush's fault.

I am mystyfried
By anyone who is mystified by anything this Marxist, Islam loving little socialist Obama does.

I am mystified this idiot got elected, but then I do not believe the election was honest anyway.

The democrats are filled with cheap hoodlums of every degenerate thought men can dream up.

Obama stole the office of President, and its all he is about, stealing one thing or another.
He is a common thief

talent scout .. let me add to your point
I think Obama has the makings of a tin horn dictator - he's sure beginning to look like one.

katepatate... we're in deep doo doo
Nobody has been paying attention to the international scene - you just know it's gonna hit the fan. Maybe Clinton can push her red button and save the day - or maybe Brown can play one of Obama's cds and set us at ease. We're in trouble.

Just Mr. Obama to me.
Enough of respecting this guy, I will never use his title and his name in same sentence. We listened to the Left demean Bush about being clumsy foreign policy. Though his cowboy way he angered our friends in Europe like our old buddy Dominique De Villipin. Obama is going to alienate a country that has been an ally for over a century and kiss up to the Cubans. Even better look at Hilarity make a dufus out of herself with the cheese ball "reset button" I'd like to hit the reset button and go back to January 20, 1981 when this nation had a real leader

Obama Ignorance
I would say that "I can't believe the ignorance of the Obamas to England" except for the fact that I'm not surprised and they are showing their true intentions which I predicted even before O was elected. Goodbye America as we know it. He is either subversive or stupid or perhaps both.

Britain's cowardly plea
Here's the link to read about one of the Brittain's consessions.

http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/Dont-attack-us-plea se-UK-ads-to-say-on-Pak-TV/421654/

THIS IS CHANGE, ALL RIGHT
It is a change to the rude, crude, unattractive, ill-informed, ill-conceived, ill-intended, shallow thinking, arrogant knucklehead who is good at making a speech with a teleprompter. I will note that, as to his teleprompter use, even The New York Times has criticized him on that.

One thing we can be sure of, the world doesn't see us the same way any more. Even his mentor Warren Buffet criticized him today for being 'muddled'.

lock and load!
That human debris in the white house has dissed our strongest ally, made friendly overtures to our most obstinate enemy's, has given our financal markets poison to drink,and told the people most able to help us out of this economic crisis to die! All in the space of 3 months....What more do you need? Time to lock and load folks ,if you want your country to survive for 4 more years,and someone with the ability to actually run your country to take over..... Time is up for this pretender to the crown...Demand his removal from office or else....

Akaqi
You write much but say little. I am eager to hear your plan for dealing with those that want to destroy America.

So you and I agree that ALL muslim states encourage either directly or indirectly, through financing, the destruction of America which only supports the idea of their total ruination. Once again you dont get it!! That is precisely the goal that all muslims states have for us. Maybe we can send you out there to dazzle them with your profound utterances. hat do you believe will appease them? Tell me! I cant wait to hear this. And this time answer the queston please!

Economic jihad?
My God is this for real?What are these idiots in the White House doing to our country?..I see more Americans laying dead from more attacks,and some will be the ones that voted for this idiot!please somebody respond to this question.what is the answer to blocking this crazieness?

william
The answer IS obamba. I think you need some "redirection" in your thinking, you are being critical

You ain't seen nothing yet...

With the exception of a handful of leftist-radicals, Obama and Michelle have no use for white people. Just read his and her writings for a taste of their real thoughts and feelings.

It will be telling when the world's tyrants and dictators show up at the White house--and receive the fuzzy and warm red-carpet treatment. They will not be given $5 toys from Amazon.com.

The Obamas are not Americans; they are Pseudo-Americans.

I agree
This is only the start brother-the I hate america Obamas will not stop until this country is brought to it's knees... When we our on our knees before China...Only then will the Dems be happy.....

Of course he's exhausted.
He's never had to really work at anything other than going to school. But even then we have no RESULTS to see how he did. WHERE ARE THE RESULTS OF HIS LABORS?

Community organizers don't have to do much. What did he accomplish? Nobody knows.
State Senators voting "present" don't even have to read anything. No bills are named after him. What did he DO there besides vote present more often than not and vote against helping botched abortion babies that live get medical treatment?
US Senators only spend a fraction of the year in actual Senate work, and Obama used most of that time running for POTUS. With an eager staff at his side, he could have easily had people tell him how to vote. The only results of his senate term were that he got the (dubious) honor of being the most liberal senator.

Look at Bush: He ran a company, ran a state, etc. Those are real jobs with real results.

Colonialism
His ideology places a lot of emphasis on colonialsim as a source of victims. I really don't think he should be allowed to change our whole foreign policy.

NEW ZIMBABWE
any chance that the 53% useful idiots that voted for national suicide will pay attention as europe commits cultural suicide? nah. they will have to experience zimbabwization before they can comprehend it. i suggest that like rhodesia/zimbabwe, we change our national name as we commit national suicide, like zimbabwe did. any suggestions? the parallels between the two countries are compelling. ex-british colony. once a rich and prosperous country. elected a racist black with criminal tendencies. nationalized all the profitable businesses, giving everything to the ones that voted "right." then provided abject poverty for all except the government elites. all we need is a neat new name. we have fulfilled all the other requirements to be "NEW ZIMBABWE"

snubbing the Brits
Agaki,
The reason most American's respect Britain & value our relationship is simple. We are family. Britain is our "Mother" country. The original 13 American colonies were British. Our Founding Fathers were either British immigrants or descendents of British immigrants. Britain gave us the basis of our legal system, governmental system, western values & religion. Honor thy Father & thy Mother. Obama showed unforgivable disrepect in my eyes. He doesn't deserve any respect just because he has the title of president; he's an overeducated socialist fool and very dangerous. A dictator in the making. If he's not stopped, American liberty will end.

Snubbing the Brits part 2
Lulu,
I agree with you. I'm so sad for our country right now. Also, for Britain. Hopefully, they'll wake up and and end any Shariah finance or law. Hopefully, we will too, before it's too late.
Still can't believe we're giving Hamas hundreds of millions of dollars & gave the British DVD's?!?!?
I think Obama hates whites too and much of the pork & redistribution of wealth is just a backdoor way of giving reparations to blacks. We have so many ignorant people in the US these days-that's how Obama got elected.

Farewell to Sanity

Let's take a look at Barack Hussein Obama's many Foreign Policy accomplishments, so far:
______________________________________________

1. His appointing Hillary Clinton to Sec. of State [after her having prevaricated about ducking sniper fire when she was visiting Bosnia in 1996 as first lady).

2. His being exposed as having promised $900,000,000 to, ostensibly, the Palestinian authority, but in effect, encouraging radical Hamas; sending a signal that he is turning a cold shoulder to Israel.

3. Making silly appeasement overtures to a Russia who held up his secret love letter to worldwide ridicule, while telling him, "nyet." Thus, humiliating Poland, Romania, and the Czech Republic and sending them the message that he is prepared to throw our newest NATO allies under the bus.

4. Totally disrespecting our No.1 ally in the world, Britain.

5. Reaching out to Iran and in return being told to in effect "get on your knees and apologize, then we may consider listening to you."

6. Kissing China's bootie by sending Hillary over there to tell them "Hey,whatever! I'm down with it!" Now China is making aggressive Navy gestures to U.S. military vessels with no comment from Obama or Hillary.

7. Offering to make a deal [surrendering] with the Taliban; trying to pass off cowardice as "diplomacy".

8. Ordering the closing of Guantanamo, resulting in charges being dropped on two of the top terrorist in the Middle East.

9. Making "solidarity" overtures to Castro's Cuba.

10. Telling the N Y Times that we are losing the war in Afghanistan.

Farewell to Sanity 2

I could go on and on.

All the while all this is going on, here at home he is bankrupting the U.S., promising to destroy our oil and coal industry, and promising to cut our military spending & soak the small and big business owning class to help "redistribute wealth" and fund housing bailouts.

With North Korea making noise [and on high military alert], China's continuing "playing chicken" with the U.S. Navy, Iran promising nuclear destruction shortly, Russia showing an unwillingness to have its butt kissed, and all our allies being given the cold shoulder or middle finger, take your pick.

Barack Hussein Obama has, within less than a 2 month period, put America in the sights of every hostile regime in the world.

He has demonstrated that he is the WEAKEST President in the history of America, and that his is a policy of appeasing America's enemies.

This President is a coward and a fool and he is putting America in a very dangerous position.

He's going to get somebody killed. And, sadly, it will probably be sooner rather than later.

obama the dam fool

obama is a fool. He insults the people of the US by speaking and acting in two different way. He insults those he claims don't care for us thanks to bush. He lets his surrogates attack and make lying comments about people and countries. This guy with the title of President apparently is not as intelligent as many would have us believe.
He thinks terrorists, who will joyfully slaughter us, can be influenced with 900 milion dollars and yet he spends time lying about and attacking Rush L. who has by law the right and oblgation to make comment relating to this current twisted administration.
Apparently this guy who is president believes in the right of terrorists to slaughter people. After all, he is willing to fund them...

Britain is our Mother Country
but it is not the Mother Country of Obama.

His Mother Country is Kenya.

Expecting a man who has spent his entire life repudiating his White heritage to suddenly embrace it just because our only remaining dependable ally -- and our Mother Country -- is known throughout the world (still, in spite of it all) as the British Empire owned and controlled by Whitey, is as Jefferson said in another context, expecting something that never was and never will be.

Jimmy Carter's Second Term

For those of us old enough to remember the reign of the “Wonder Weasel” this administration is looking very familiar. Let’s hope the Republicans have enough gravitas to find a new Ronald Reagan.

England & War
W/O England, we could not have gotten into the greatest American blunder, a place called Iraq. England is being held accountable.
And for everyone who wants a new "Reagan", it was Dutch that got us into this middle east quaqmire, recall Iran-Iraq-Contra.
Starting w/Ike and Nixon in the 50's, Reagan/Bush 1 in the 80's and now Goober Bush in the 2000's, Republicans just can't stay out of the middle east, and Goober Bush was the Likud president's stooge.

Churchill Bust
Obama sent the bust back to Britain because "Lady Macbeth" Obama told him to get rid of it.

OBAMA'S INFERIORITY COMPLEX
Why did Barack Obama rudely refuse to appear with Gordon Brown at a joint press conference when the British PM was in Washington? Answer: Because Obama's inferiority complex got the better of him that day. Because our big, bold courageous President feared the contrast with Brown. Because Brown's stronger intellect and larger and more vigorous personality would have overshadowed our mental and moral pip-squeak-in-chief. By not appearing with Brown Obama avoided a humiliating experience.

Many pundits, including myself, have likened Obama to Neville Chamberlain. While the analogy isn't entirely wrong it does Obama too much credit. While Chamberlain was tragically short on judgement when dealing with Hitler-mistaking him for a conventional politician and missing his revolutionary intent-he was no sheepish, frightened, self conscious Mickey Mouse. We're a nation at war with a weakling for President and that could spell disaster.

For more on Obama's inferiority complex read my: Barack Obama, Abraham Lincoln and the Image of Presidential Greatness.



SHARIAH LAW IS IN THE USA

It was reported yesterday that two state banks in Minnesota were catering to Muslims customers by offering accounts which complied with the Sharia Laws for their benefit. Only a small step, but a step nonetheless for the Islam law in this country. Could non Muslims receive the same consideration? Probably not.

Could anyone from Minnesota add some additional information to this report?

For Catfish Keith

No, Iraq is definitely not America’s greatest foreign policy debacle. Contenders for that honor could be Dean Acheson’s invitation for the communists to invade South Korea, Kennedy and Johnson’s ignoring of General Krulak’s admonition that no matter what the US should not become involved in South Viet Nam, or Jimmy Carter’s tossing of the Shah under the Islamic fundamentalist bus.

Churchill Bust
Can we please dispense with the myth that the bust of Churchill was a gift? The bust was on loan to President Bush from the British embassy for the length of his term. His term is now over and Obama returned the loan. It is the sitting President's prerogative to decorate the Oval Office as he sees fit. If Obama prefers to have some other object in its place that is his call. You guys act like Obama shoved the bust out of a moving car in front of the British embassy.

The smart president..
... is too smart for his pants. He is of a long line of pseudo-intellectuals who think they can show how hip, smart and cool they are by dissing, ignoring, seemingly and probably not understanding history, tradition, good sense and moral purpose. They are stimulating and amusing at left-wing social gatherings but are disastrous in government. The "smartest woman in the world" is also proving to be less so as she tries to follow in the path of true statesmen. He and she are simply not up to it.

The answer is easy . . .
barack hussein obama is a muslim. Does any one (supposedly the sharpest pencils in the box) know that DVDs from region 1 (USA) will not play in region 2 (UK and Europe) without a hack?
To insult our ally with an insignificant "gift" shows the degree of stupidity and disrespect that exists at the top levels or our "government". My "president"?--NOT

An old subject . . .
that has been bandied about is that of barack hussein obama's "citizenship". A tack that has not been explored is the fact that although barack hussein obama was born to an American woman, his primary "birth certificate" was issued by kenya. This, in fact would make barack hussein obama a "naturalized" American "citizen, thus NOT qualified to be "president" of the United States. Has anyone explored this line of reasoning?

QMIII. On the Churchill bust.
The Churchill bust was loaned in perpetuity, not just to Bush but to the American people. If that is beyond your understanding, let me hasten to enlighten you. It means that England could ask for it back at any time, but for this or any president to hand it back without being asked is nothing more than a sign of total disrespect. More than that it points up Obama's absolute lack of class, although given his immediate progenitors what can one expect, especially with a wife who probably had to be toilet trained once installed in the WH.

Sending back Churchill's bust
I am sure that the Obama's had to send back the Churchill bust to make room for the new bust of their hero Bill Ayers. I would not be surprised to hear that the Lincoln bedroom will be renamed the Rev. Wright Playroom. This guy has no class and no manners. As they say "you can't teach them what their parents didn't teach them". He wants to let us know that there is a new guy in the White House. The new guy is cool, parties when he wants to, flies around in Air Force One to impress his friends and he is doing it with our money. Has anyone noticed how Bill Ayers seems to be coming out of the woodwork since Obama was elected. Obama is using anything he can to shove in our faces that he is the RULER. God help us all.

TJ
"A tack that has not been explored is the fact that although barack hussein obama was born to an American woman, his primary "birth certificate" was issued by kenya. This, in fact would make barack hussein obama a "naturalized" American "citizen, thus NOT qualified to be "president" of the United States. Has anyone explored this line of reasoning?"

Okay. Like to post a link to show a copy of his Kenyan birth certificate? He was naturalized was he? Where are the copies of his naturalization application and his naturalization certificate? How about passport stamps when he and his mom left Kenya and he enterd the US?

Yes a number of idiots have explored this line of reasoning. Some fools even sued. Their stupid cases were dismissed and claiming he was born in Kenya makes you look like a moron.

What is there left to say?
The world is going to hell in a hand basket. We are acquiescing to the demands of terrorists.

The question: When will good people of the world wake up and stop supporting leftist appeasement policies? Obama is an unmitigated DISASTER for the US. Are some of you Obama supporters beginning to wake up?

God Save America ... and the UK

Some awesome posts!
scottr - 3:29 post

Spot on!

You can only push freedom-loving people so far...

Dear Mr. Gaffney
Is anything beyond the casual dismissal of the Churchill bust necessary to illustrate the "new tone" of the Obama foreign policy? For a century, now, the Grand Alliance has stood as the bulwark against a series of grave threats to the existance of freedom in the world. Churchill exemplified it by being not only one of the greatest British leaders, but through his American roots as well. It was not without reason that he became the first honorary American citizen by act of Congress. However, those cultural roots between our two nations are hardly shared by Obama... and neither he nor Brown share the ideological ones. This may mark the final chapter of the consortium that Churchill helped to forge in World War I and consolidated in World War II. May God help His civilization on this Earth.

Dear Akagi
You speak of a Kenyan birth certificate? Just how many of those are there? Kenya is not like America, where such things are an established procedure. It is for that reason that the State of Hawaii- with such large numbers of foreign born (and undocumented) residents- maintains a "Cetification of Live Birth" for the foreign-born. That is what (and in a disputed photocopy!) Obama's supporters have forwarded as "proof" of his citizenship. Not an American birth certificate. This question of Obama's true origins is still a very valid one. Until it's resolved (and unless it's resolved in Obama's favor!) this country stands in acute danger of a political crisis that could potentially tear it apart.

islam's "stealth jihad
Two problems with ANY concessions to islam are that: 1) The religion has numerous directives to extreme violence against non-believers (so called infidels). There is no compromise of any kind. Intolerance rules. And 2) Too often radical clerics are allowed to manipulate their congregation with dire consequences. The sheep that are the congregation do not reign-in the radical elements and, in fact, condone and support the violence with their silence and near complete lack of condemnation.

Diana West: "I say we ignore the spread of islamic law across Europe, from the schoolroom to the courtroom, at our peril". Being of European extraction, having immigrated to the U.S. at 12, having gained citizenship, having being in government employment for many years, and having seen first hand, over 2 years, how islam functions in Saudi Arabia I can unequivocally say that what Ms West is saying is “NO BULL”! The religion doesn’t even deserve the term; it’s a backward, extremely vindictive, hypocritical, and thoroughly offensive to freedom loving people, especially women. For my part, I don’t want to see one of those abominations of a mosque anywhere close to me but, more than that, I want to see every vestige of that islamic cancer eradicated from the planet.

The real reason for Obama's .......
rudeness to Great Britain via the return of the Churchill bust and the rude reception of UK's PM is his arrogance and conceit and narcissism.

Obama believes noone can be more important than he is, particularly in his own country.....thereby the downplaying of Brown's visit and its importance......and to have the bust of a leader in his office that had been wildly successful would overshadow his own importance, particularly in his own country. We witnessed his territorial instincts.

Obama, remember, has set himself up to "change the world." He has set himself up to "redefine" many aspects of the US....and the world.

Did we really believe that he could grind out the "everydayness" of the Presidency and not display his his most obvious core vice......narcissism?


Motley Crue - Churchill Bust
According to Telegraph Online, an arm of the conservative London Telegraph,

"The bronze by Sir Jacob Epstein, worth hundreds of thousands of pounds if it were ever sold on the open market, enjoyed pride of place in the Oval Office during President Bush's tenure.

But when British officials offered to let Mr Obama to hang onto the bust for a further four years, the White House said: "Thanks, but no thanks."

So apparently the loan wasn't for perpetuity. Nor did the loan of the bust constitute a binding contract to display the bust in the Oval Office at the discretion of the British. The return of the bust is a non-event and is an outrage only to those predisposed to hate Obama.

Using the bust as evidence that Obama hates Great Britain makes you look goofy. Your incredibly crude insult of Michelle Obama makes you a dick.

Shame on obama
I can not fathom, how the English must feel for being so put out when Obama did what he did. He makes me ill. I didn't vote for him and I'm so glad that I didn't. The one country that has stood with us through hell and high water. He literally spit in their face. I hope that they impeach him he is a disgrace to our country.
Narcissism is too good for him. There is not word for him.

Childish BO At it Again
The Man-Child (to quote Rush) is at it again. Despises our Western roots and embraces our delared enemies - ISLAM. BO is a muslim by birth and considered as such by all muslims.

He and his wife are a disgrace. Until he provides a "real" birth certificate I will not recognize him as POTUS.

a day's work
This President is finishing the job begun by 4 hijacked planes and no one is crying, "let's roll".

Grand Champion State Murderer

While the left has spent the last sixty years focusing on the evil of the National Socialists the reality is that compared to Stalin, Hitler was less accomplished. Stalin most likely killed thirty million of his own countrymen to bring about change they could believe in. The real numbers are hard to estimate because the left wing murder machine was so efficient in killing the killers, and eradicating any vestige of a paper trail. While all segments of Soviet society suffered, the burden fell disproportionately on what could be considered a class less society’s, middle class. Small farmers, technicians, military officers, and religious people died at greater rates than any other elements of society. Additionally, ethnicity was a variable that loaded against the victims. Ukrainians and Russians died at greater rates because of Stalin’s hatred of them. If history is relevant it would seem that one would not want to be tagged as counterrevolutionary (conservative), accomplished, (property owning/ambitious) or ethnically/religiously different than your supreme leader. Any one care to give up their guns in 21st century America?

QMIII. writes:
"Using the bust as evidence that Obama hates Great Britain makes you look goofy. Your incredibly crude insult of Michelle Obama makes you a dick."
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One can define crude in different ways, but when it comes to Michelle Obama its a moot point. She personifies "crude" in every way imaginable. And as for me being a dick, it's obviously a word you're quite familiar with, more than likely in every way possible.

Not since the Clintons
have we had such vulgarians in the White House!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member Soli Deo Gloria!!

Steve
The term Hawai'i uses for its birth certificate is "Cetification of Live Birth." The term is used in various states in fact. The online copy according to Factcheck.org was the exactly the same as a co-worker who was born In Hawai'i at about the same time.

"authoritative Islam"?
Good article, sir but a little too politically correct in your reference to "authoritative Islam" when you should have called it what it is; radical Islam.

But I can understand your desire to avoid being labeled an Islamaphobe given that Geert Wilder was denied entry into the U.K. and has been under 24 hour protection after receiving death threats from "authoritive Islamists" who take offense at his short film, Fitna, which shows, not actors or western commentators but the "authoritative Islamists" themselves, spewing their peculiar brand of hatred for Jews and infidels everywhere. "Death to the Jews, Death to America, allah akbar."

That's a little more than "authoritative" in my view and the sooner we start calling it what it is the sooner we can begin to effectively deal with it.

Dear Motley Crue
Thanks for being an upstanding Californian and responding as you did to that disgrace to the State of Texas!

Dear Akagi
I wouldn't be surprised at all if other states besides Hawaii have such a thing, considering the porousness of our borders to alien infiltrators. But what you said refutes nothing. A Certification of Live Birth- especially one that does not even list a residence, a hospital or an attending physician- does not certify one as an American citizen. Osama bin Laden could have one of those. He likely does! They're not only easily obtainable, but easily forged as well... something which the Obama document may well prove to be in any case.

CHANGE WE BELIEVE IN??
After the Revolutionary War, relations with Great Britain warmed until the War of 1812. They were soured briefly during the Civil War due to a Confederate request for help. (Britain apologized afterward for meddling in our affairs).

Since then, an enormous amount of goodwill and kinship has existed. By insulting our closest friends we offend Australia, Canada, New Zealand, South Africa, and the entire British Commonwealth!

As for Sharia Law, how long has it been since we didn't "press 1 for English"?? Those in power have no backbone, self-respect, nor foresight. If a minority whines about rights politicians cave in.

How pathetic that Obama insults our closest friends. Reagan wouldn't have insulted Castro like that! Every time he opens his mouth the stock market drops.

The country is already divided. It appears our founding fathers are weeping from the other side at the loss of what they so valiantly fought for. Their sacrifice is being trampled for internationalism to the peril of our sacred constitution.

Steve
Since when does actually checking the facts rather than succumbing to ignorance and hysteria constitute a disgrace? Granted, Texas has more than its fair share of ignorant yahoos (I'm looking at you, Steve), I just don't happen to be one of them.

Factcheck dot org
Supported by the Annenburg challenge dollars, another left wing propaganda site - LOL
It's amazing how those claiming to be intelligent are so easily turned into lying scabs for their left wing masters.
Obama spent a million plus of someone else's money covering up his real birth record - and we still have only rumor as to it's actual existence - in Mombasa under the hands of the Imama's son, fled to Europe, or filed away offshore covered in legal darkness because of it's actual nature - issued to one who had a foreign birth - at the time done with impunity, in any case the LIAR IN CHEIF won't come clean.
Liars for the left are the lowest pieces of crap I've ever seen blab about anything.
One lie after another, coupled with lowlife insults and stupidity, conjoined to the claim of mental acutity, an absolute arrogant "F" deserved in all cases.
Lie, lie lie lie lie lie, and lie some more, and noone is stupid enough to believe the left wing charlatan isn't aware of how thin their veneer of traitorship is, and their growing nostril lengths they claim aren't present are an insult to even the retarded.
How did you become such disgusting pieces of crap ? How can YOU do it yourselves, when your own arguments prove you aren't stupid enough to believe the crap you spew ? Have you at some time decided you will lie for the cause, and anyone you can fool, makes your position "all the more exciting and plausible" ? If you happen to convince another, does it therefore bring strength against your own doubts concerning your own lies ? Do you actually hope to brainwash yourselves effectively if you just keep spewing the crap ?
I suppose you do. Well, I don't believe your insane, transparent BS either. Know that. There isn't a chance in HELL I will, either.
Steve, the lunatics know they are liars.
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