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Monday, November 10, 2008
Frank Gaffney :: Townhall.com Columnist
Yes, They Can
by Frank Gaffney
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Senator Barack Obama became President-elect on the uplifting, if inexact, slogan, “Yes, we can.” This week, there is growing evidence that people who have in mind doing away with the presidency of the United States – and all other aspects of our secular, democratic and constitutional form of government – are similarly convinced of their inevitable success. Judging by the sheer audacity of their agenda, “Yes, they can” would appear an apt description of the prospects for the Saudis and other champions of the totalitarian program they call Shariah.

In the run-up to an emergency summit outgoing President George Bush has called to address the now-global financial crisis, the oil-rich Islamists of the Persian Gulf led by Saudi Arabia have not only established that their petrodollars are indispensable to any solution. They also seem to have secured the Bush Administration’s acquiescence to the sinister strings attached to any bail-out of the West in which they might participate.

Specifically, the Saudis and their friends want the United States to join those, particularly in Europe, who have accommodated themselves to Shariah. No, we are assured, they aren’t taking about the brutal theo-political-legal code that features such barbaric practices as beheadings, floggings, stonings, amputations, female genital mutilation and misogyny more generally.

All they want, those in the know insist, is for Washington to encourage Wall Street – more and more of which is owned by the U.S. government – to embrace Shariah-Compliant Finance (SCF). A Treasury Department seminar convened last week depicted SCF as nothing more than a kind of socially responsible investing vehicle that respects Muslim religious beliefs by eschewing interest-bearing transactions and those involving pork and “sin” stocks. So, what’s the big deal? The Catholics, Methodists and Jews have their funds, why not the Muslims?

What makes the Shariah-Compliant Finance gambit both a big and troublesome “deal” is that, unlike these other religious traditions, Shariah’s adherents are pursuing a global theocracy. They believe they must impose their agenda on everybody else, religious and secular alike, using violence if necessary. And SCF is explicitly described by leading practitioners as a complement to violent holy war: “financial jihad” and “jihad with money.”

In other words, there is no such thing as free-standing Shariah-Compliant Finance. According to all of the recognized authorities and institutions of Islam, Shariah is a unified, indivisible program to which all faithful Muslims must adhere comprehensively.

Not surprisingly, therefore, the Saudis & Co. are not simply seeking to insinuate Shariah-Compliant Finance into our capital markets. They are also advancing the creation of a parallel Shariah-governed society through various other means.

One of these techniques will be in evidence when the Saudi monarch himself convenes a meeting in New York City in the hope of imposing Shariah blasphemy laws worldwide. In light of the stated, and seemingly benign, purpose of the so-called “Culture of Peace” event hosted by King Abdullah at the United Nations – namely, promoting interfaith understanding and tolerance, numerous world leaders, including President Bush, will be present. Never mind that Saudi Arabia is arguably the most intolerant nation on earth, a fact even some in the Bush administration have acknowledged.

The real reason attendance at the King’s séance is going to be impressive, of course, has more to do with the hope that petro-largesse will flow to those who ingratiate themselves to the House of Saud. Abdullah appears confidently to have signaled that, if the West plays ball on the “Culture of Peace” agenda, the Saudis and their fellow Islamists will be constructive at what might be called the subsequent “Culture of Money” meeting in Washington.

What will the answer be when the Islamists insist that free speech must not allow the slander, libel or defamation of Shariah, or other aspects of their faith? If the European Union and the United Nations Human Rights Council have already accommodated themselves to this demand, why should we object? So what if, by so doing, we would effectively thereby be precluded from talking about – or even understanding – the Islamist threat we face, to say nothing of eviscerating the First Amendment? As the Treasury Department can attest, we need the money.

Unfortunately, this is no time for us to be diminishing awareness throughout the Free World of the various, grave dangers we face from adherents to Shariah’s seditious program. London’s Sunday Telegraph reported this weekend that a classified British government assessment has concluded that there are “some thousands of extremists in the U.K. committed to supporting Jihadi activities, either in the U.K. or abroad.”

Such extremists are said to be engaged in attack planning in the United Kingdom “either under the direction of al-Qaeda, or inspired by al-Qaeda's ideology of global Jihad” (read, Shariah). They may inflict “mass casualties” and constitute a “severe” threat to the Government Security Zone (including the Houses of Parliament and key executive offices) in the heart of London.

At such a moment, a federal judge in Oregon has held the law criminalizing material support for terror is unconstitutionally “vague.” Taken together with the other manifestations of our capitulation, is it any wonder the champions of Shariah are convinced that “yes, they can” have their way with us? Who will disabuse them of this terrifying notion? We can, but will President-elect Obama lead the way?

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Frank Gaffney Jr. is the founder and president of the Center for Security Policy and author of War Footing: 10 Steps America Must Take to Prevail in the War for the Free World .
 
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America is suffering
America is suffering unlawful deception from the Alinsky group.
Group u$urp$ power on January 20th—the constitution violated.
The United States Supreme Court alone can relieve this outrage.

example: Bogus Selective Service System FOIA Registration?
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/11/exclusive_d id_n.html

From Obama’s book Audacity of Hope
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

The 54% will be shocked!
This is just a peak at the ice berg, the 'best' is yet to come! When Hussein is done, we will be aligned to Sharia bottom up. I suppose there are advantages to being a community organizer. Make that 'world community organizer'. Insha Allah - Washington will be the new propaganda machine for jihadists and their cause.

Islamic Money buys adherents
For those who do not believe this threat is real. This election proved how easy it is to get millions of donated dollars into the US. What will happen when Saudi dollars are funnelled into ACORN for community realignment to ISLAM. Think of it. We do not have to agree to Sharia Law, it will be emposed by our own government as a agreement for peace after the internal struggle. Wake up. Frank is only speaking of the tip of the iceberg called islam. This struggle will last for decades and our survival is very much in debate.

Bush waives carrots and sticks to banks
If we had no economic problems, we wouldn't need no foreign money, nor
deal with the foreign strings attached to it, such as
Gaffney's example of Sharia law with Saudi money.

Corn ethanol has increased our fuel and food prices, and so is one factor that is hurting our economy, but the main hurt to our economy is generally understood to be all the bad loans issued over recent years, and the subsequent unavailability of credit, and, of course, whatever person(s) who waived the carrot and/or stick to motivate the banks to issue the bad loans.

Obviously we should know exactly who, and, more importantly, what, was
used as carrots and/or sticks to motivate the banks to write the bad loans.

Alan Greenspan almost focused on this question when he confessed about two weeks ago that he incorrectly believed that the banks would regulate themselves, and therefore wouldn't knowingly write bad loans, and, he said that he still doesn't understand why the banks didn't
properly regulate themselves. He thereby implied that he ruled out any external factors on the banks' actions, such as the Bush Administration using carrots or
on the banks, and was just focused on the internal operations of the banks.
But why should he do that?

These banks had to have been acting on company strategies that were planned by their chief operating officers. Such people aren't stupid, a rationale had to have motivated them.

And, we know Bush encouraged more loans, from certain of his speeches, but that alone shouldn't motivate a CEO to bankrupt his company just to please the President. But it is an
indication that Bush may have started the process. It would be nice to know why he encouraged the loans and, more importantly, what legal leverage (stick) existed to force the lenders to issue bad loans, and/or what reward existed to encourage the lenders.

cultural suicide? or resistance?
This war will be over when one of two things happens:

(1) When everyone in the West submits to Sharia Law -- the end result of the EU and Obama approach,

or

(2) When everyone who thinks that everyone in the West must submit to Sharia Law is dead -- the end result of the West's rejection of cultural and demographic suicide, and the duty of all Christians.

Is there a third option, one where the God-cursed Mohammedans all go home and stop undermining the most important culture on Earth? Doesn't look like it.

I vote for Option 2: the expulsion of the Mohammedan cancer and the end of its efforts to dominate us. Anyone else?


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Islamic Law may not be half bad
Frankly Islamic Law may save us from the laws of socilism.

Both end up with a two class society.

Islamic law, though harsh, is swift, consistant, and certain. Islamic law doesn't require a lot of lawyers who bend the law into areas it was not intended. It does not burden taxpayers with one interpretation one day and another interpretation on another day.

Islamic Law does impose suppression of Free Speech but so do liberals. Its just a matter of degree. Islamic Law does require citizens to comply with certain social norms, but so do laws Liberals impose.

Under Islamic Law we won't have Hollywood imposing their values on society.

Under Islamic Law the right to bear arms is not infringed.

Under Islamic Law the right to a speedy trial is certain.

Under Islamic Law the equal protection clause will be enforced. There will be "equal Rights for all and no "Special Rights" as Liberals often impose.

As the U.S. enters a new phase of change, we should not rule out Islamic Law. It may be far better than what Liberals have in mind.

Obama can handle this
Yes he can. And don't worry, his chief of staff is a major Zionist so I doubt Obama will take a wrong direction.

My USA is Fading to White

Under the rule of King Obama and his royal family, we true conservatives will witness the progression from Star Spangled Banner to the white flag of surrender and appeasement. We will be there when the National Security Force comes for our guns and homes in the name of the State. We will die defending the Constitution as written with the blood of our forefathers in the aftermath of the King’s broad confiscation, taxation and censorship of any opposing view. We will watch as our country sinks under the waves of stifled innovation, retarded growth and stagflation. Our monetary system will become even more of a joke on itself and the net worth of most Americans will be nothing because all will be the state’s property and permission to live there will only be given to supporters of the socialist manifesto as prescribed by Princess Nancy and Prince Harry. The socialist government redistributors will then step in and rule every aspect of your lives. This is the scary vision of the future under the rule of King Obama and his royal court. Now I understand that old Che slogan that every liberal loves to quote, “One man’s Terrorist is another man’s Freedom Fighter.” In these times we may get to see that being said by conservatives very soon. 2012 may not come soon enough to stop the juggernaught of change we don't want.



Saudi Arabia? Oil?
Saudi Arabia hasn't got the oil to back up any promises and/or threats. Were we to drill here/drill now, Saudi Arabia would become superfluous.

International Man of Mystery Obama, of course, wants to ban drilling in America, among other idiocies.

We got a pig in a poke. No lipstick: just pig.

No, Donjindra,
Bush didn't throw those lives away. The American people did, on 11-04-2008.

Get Smart
ALLRIGHT 99 -- Let's point our gun in the right direction!! It is mandatory that our fiscal and financial foundation not be compromised, altered, or otherwise corrupted by an ideology that is inimical to the survival of western civilization. This simple truth is one of the three pillars of survival of our society:
1. A strong military
2. A strong economy (which implies proper
and uncompromised financial structuring.
3. Strong political will (very worrisome to
me at this critical point in our history

Civilization's Crisis
What do you want to bet that Obama will tilt towards the Muslims? After all, this is his heritage. Political correctness will end up destroying Western democracies. Islamic states do not want cooperation with their customs; they want hegemony. They fanatically believe in their religion and their Sharia way of life while western nations have lost their core beliefs in democracy, freedom, and Christianity. Their battle cry is a plaintive, "Can't we all just get along?"

We need to resurrect the Crusades!

Onward Christian Soldiers!

jagmeister 721
Are you serious? You think this is an imagined threat? Do your homework. Check out some of the sites that monitor Islamic activites and you will see that te inroads Islamists are making around the globe are substantial.
Have you been to Europe lately? France, Germany, Holland, the Netherlands, all have had to capitulate to the sometimes violent demands of Islamists, thereby giving up some of their freedoms. If you study the tenets of Islam as interpreted by those wreaking havoc around the globe you will find that Gaffney is by no means exaggerating the threat. If anything he has underestimted it.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com

Bye Gaffney
This kind of neocon drivel is what got our party into trouble in the first place. There are a few dull theocons and unrepetentant bigots who latch onto this, which is what keeps the neocons alive. These same people sleep with a nightlight on afraid some "Mooslim" is going to attack them. Note: There is no such thing as Shariah Finance. It's a bogus phrase, completely intellectually unsound. A number of wealthy states and investors from the Middle East are investing in the West; that has nothing to do with Sharia law. Also, it is an absolute pittance compared to finance from the West and China.

Gaffney is a neocon nutjob whose days are numbered. The bigots that follow this pied piper can leave with him. Its time for real conservatives to reclaim our party.

2012 Conservative Resistance Movement
NEW GOODIES FROM HITLER'S BROTHER OBAMA:

Obama Planning U.S. Trials for Guantanamo Detainees
http://obambi.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/obamaterrorists/#com ment-6408

Oh yah, between THIS and the new ABORTION plan he announced today (that abortions overseas will be funded by Americans); AND that he wants to do hideous experiments on LIVE EMBRYO’S CREATED IN A LABORATORY, not discarded ones [as if THAT is really any better]
http://ironmill.wordpress.com/2008/11/11/obama-executive-or ders-will-fund-abortion-embryonic-stem-cell-research/

…and the new OBAMA NATIONAL HOLIDAY they’ve got in the works: http://special.cjonline.com/stories/110908/loc_353922770.s html

IT’S ON!

I WILL not and REFUSE to claim this MONSTER as president, my president.

and not one DIME of mine will go to his ghetto pet projects to spread the wealth around NOR the horrific lab experiments on human life.

if he wants to pay for this stuff, let him get it from the poor he’s always talking about. I’D TAKE DEATH before I’d submit to that monster.

I DON’T EVEN SUPPORT DOING THOSE ABOMINATIONS ON ANIMALS, LET ALONE HUMAN BEINGS.

There is no question this monster is the antiChrist, move over Hitler, YOUR BROTHER OBAMA IS HERE.

The prayers of the saints have risen up into the face of God Himself.

And the wife? i te watcha!!!! Monster #2.

AND HE WASN'T EVEN BORN IN AMERICA!

JOINE 2012 CONSERVATIVE RESISTANCE MOVEMENT
http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/%E2%80%A2-20 12-conservative-resistance-movement-1-we-do-not-acknowledge -barack-husein-obama-as-president/

Wisdom cries out in the streets.....
This columnist knows what he is talking about!! Did any of you posters read the article on the US treasury giving a seminar to educate people on how Sharia Finance works? What it will do? How it affects Muslims who want to be free of it? Why it is dangerous to our country? Family Security Matters printed an excellent explanation as to why we must not allow the Sharia Compliance Finance to be brought into this country. Before you dismiss what Mr. G. is saying you really should do your homework!!!
He could not be more correct in this assessment of the hidden dangers to our way of life and the real purpose behind wanting this form of finance to be accepted by us. You just don't get it!!!! We're not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy.

Safe?
Where's bin Laden? Bush failed at the most basic level there. Then he threw away additional lives in Iraq.

WILL OBAMA KEEP US SAFE?
Bush kept us safe. Stated intentions from post-election Obama indicate that we should be VERY SCARED.

How did
Americans become so puffed up to believe that we cannot disintigrate as a nation? I suspect it will be all over before most Americans even recognized something significant happened.

Everybody sing......
From the Messiah's Children's Chorus:

"He's gonna change it and rearrange it...... Obama's gonna change the world!"


The Prophet Mohammed ...

... may pigeon droppings be upon him.

I hope that you're right, Lon (1:22 p.m. post), and agree that Mr. Gaffney's article has a scent of hysteria to it.

But I do wonder if in four years time I'll be permitted to submit a post under the foregoing subject line (or something similar). I fear that we're headed in the wrong direction.

NOT EVEN OBAMA
NO PRESIDENT IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, EVEN THOUGH HE SUPPPORT THE BLACK GENOCIDE OF THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD, SUPPORT GAY UNIONS,AND WANT TO CHANGE THE CONSTITUTION SURELY WOULD NOT WANT SHARIAH LAW INCLUDE IN SUPREME COURT DECISIONS. ADDING BEHEADING, FLOGGING, STONING, AMPUTATION, FEMALE GENTIAL MUTILATION AND OTHER MISOGYNY TO THE PENAL CODES MIGHT NOT BE THAT FAR FROM BECOMING REALITY. NOT EVEN OBAMA WOULD SEEK AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO CHANGE THE FEDERAL PENAL CODE TO INCLUDE SUCH PUNISHMENTS IN THE SENTENCING OF PEOPLE OF FAITH.

Obama was not elected
By any thing close to an honest election, he was hand picked for this position by the men who had the money to pay for buying the Presidency.

Everyone knows it even if they want to ignore what has happened for his placement as President.

The Elections, just as our economy and banking system is Controlled by unelected men who decide for us all who is to be President.

Knowing all this, the people are to blame for allowing it, so whatever happens, it has been by choice anyway.

The blind are in charge and the nation follows along.

Just think about it, this man rose to be President from total obscurity, and without any experience.

Its awesome how the manipulation has worked on a supposedly educated America.

My God, the course is set, the downfall will now come for what once was the land of free men.

There are still many among us who are Free Men, who Jesus Christ has set free, is free indeed, no matter what any king or president does.
The people have chosen a Saul, a Barrabas and suffered the consequences, and we will too.

God has been removed from a position of honor and now given to a man full of empty words and great swelling promises with vain hope.
Amazing times to be alive.

He so silly
Gaffney is actually still making arguments based on the premise that Islamist act in a unified fashion with no dissension or disagreement. He doesn't deal with reality much does he.

If the Saudis tell us that we should take mocking of Islam as slander, how will we deal with it? I would suggest we say "no." Wow that was a tough problem to solve. I can see why Gaffney is worked up about it. But if he reads the comments section here hopefully he will see that one possibility is that we say no, and his mind will be eased.

What a loon.

I say bag the Saudis
and all the other countries in that region. Drilling should begin immediately here.

Oh, that's right. Obama's first executive order is going to be to rescind lands ceded for exploration by Bush. Great idea!

Forgive me. I forgot drilling will not be the answer to ending our dependence on foreign oil.

So we will do absolutley nothing to drill for more oil. Real bright. We know how many catastrophic oil spills we have had in the Gulf since the 60s. Which is zero.


AND JERRY MATHERS AS THE BEAVER!
ABDULLA!?? A LOOK A LIKE!

What's the point?
Why even try to fight. "The people" have spoken. They do not care about our future, our children, or our country. What they care about is "Bush lied, babies died" and we need "change". Most people will tell you they do not care what that change is. They do not care if we all live on Sharia law. All that matters is Obama is not Bush. Obama could sell our entire country to the Ukraine for a double cheeseburger a waffle fries and many people would not bat an eye. They will simply say "well, it would have been so much worse if Bush were still in office, he would have gotten only fries".

RALPH: Time to take your pills.

You forgot to mention that Osama Bin Laden married George Bush's daughters in a secret ceremony on Air Force One on 9/11/2001.

Arrogance, weakness, dishonesty
We are getting a clearer picture of Obama each day. It points to arrogance, weakness, and dishonesty, and this is what we should focus on right now:

Obama met with Iraq's Maliki in July 2008 and began or tried to negotiate with him BEFORE he was president.

In July 2008, at the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, OBAMA TRIED TO CONVINCE IRAQI LEADERS IN PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS THAT THE CURRENT PRESIDENT, GEORGE W. BUSH, SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ENACT THE DEAL WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL.

A few weeks before the Nov. 4 election Obama threw conservative reporters off of his plane.

In October 2008 VP candidate Joe Biden predicted an international crisis would be staged in 2009 to test Obama after he became president, and predicted that people in the U.S. would not like the way Obama handles it. FIRST TIME IN KNOWN HISTORY THAT A VP CANDIDATE HAS MADE SUCH A PREDICTION ABOUT HIS PRESIDENTIAL RUNNING MATE.

On Nov. 8, 2008, President-elect Barack Obama's private conversation with Poland's president created an international disagreement, with President Lech Kaczynski saying Obama promised to continue a missile-defense system and the transition office saying the Democrat made no such commitment.

The Bush-Saudi Connection
So, after decades of the Bush dynasty palling around with the Saudis, Gaffney wants us to believe that the Saudis are close to world domination thru American acquiescence to their demands for a Sharia based financial system.

Sounds like a rerun of Pinky and the Brain.

Of course this all takes place under Obama's watch.

When Daddy Bush and Bush junior were buddy buddy with the Saudis, Frank how come the Saudis were not a threat?

Remember all of those visits by Saudi monarchy to the Bush spread in Texas?

Remember all of those photo-ops?

Remember the hasty departure of high-ranking Saudi citizens from our shores immediately after 9/11 (with the help of Bush and his government)?

You know what we simply do not believe you Frank.

No One seems to be listening
Frank, the people who care are numb and the people who would accept cheating to win an election can't make themselves care about others. All of the people who will work to protect other Americans than themselves are all in the military or have already served and have rejoined the silent majority. Obama called this shot and made it, if he could get enough votes to be be declared the winner, no one would have the guts to ask about the illegal voting that helped him and Democrats in Congress and at least one Goverorship or even whether he meets the constitutional requirments of citizenship. People who would cheat in an election, do not care about democracy even if they pretend the mantle of Democrat.
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