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Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Frank Gaffney :: Townhall.com Columnist
'John Doe' Telecoms
by Frank Gaffney
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We interrupt this congressional recess to bring you an announcement: While the House of Representatives is vacationing this week, terrorists are probably communicating about plots to kill Americans without fear that their plans will be intercepted by U.S. intelligence.

If one or more of those mortal plots are, as a result, successfully executed, we won’t need an independent 9/11-style commission to assign blame. The buck will stop squarely at the desk of Speaker Nancy Pelosi who refused to allow a vote on a permanent renewal of the Protect America Act (PAA).

That legislation provides, in effect, authority for the Commander-in-Chief to monitor our adversaries’ battlefield communications – something successive Presidents have routinely done since the founding of the republic. Unfortunately, in the current, ongoing War for the Free World, the battlefield is global and the enemy’s signals are conveyed by a bewildering array of media not anticipated back in 1978 when Congress first imposed significant, but relatively modest restrictions on how and when American signals intercepts could take place.

To be clear, I believe such authority is inherent in the President’s powers under our Constitution. Unfortunately, a federal court found otherwise last year. This led first to a mad scramble to enact the Protect America Act in Fall 2007 and then, as that temporary, six-month legislation was ready to expire last weekend, to a continuing test of wills between the Democratic House leadership and President Bush. Incredibly, the House left town without scheduling a vote to reenact the PAA on a permanent basis.

Prominent among the stated justifications for this dereliction of duty by the House of Representatives is the fact that the Senate version of the reenactment of the PAA – which was passed recently with broad bipartisan support – included a provision anathema to the lower chamber’s Democratic leadership: It offered immunity from litigation for private telecommunications companies whose help in collecting signals intelligence was indispensable in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

Sadly, this dereliction is not an isolated incident. In 2007, the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) – an organization identified by the Justice Department as a Muslim Brotherhood front organization and an un-indicted co-conspirator in a terrorism financing case – threatened to sue several individuals identified to date only as “John Does.” These Americans responded, as did the telecoms, to a request for help by their government. They reported worrisome and provocative behavior on the part of a group of “Flying Imams” prior to a flight from Minneapolis to Arizona in 2006.

Congress and the public reacted vociferously when word got out concerning CAIR’s threats to those who fulfilled the oft-stated request by law-enforcement agencies across America to the effect that, “If you see something, say something.” Within days, it became clear that substantial majorities in both the House and Senate favored relief for the John Does.

Then as now, though, Nancy Pelosi and other, like-minded House leaders used their positions to try to prevent enactment of the needed legislation. In the case of the John Does, however, the outcry to protect the country and those who heed official appeals for help toward that end became simply irresistible. At the instigation of Reps. Peter King and Pete Hoekstra and Sens. Joe Lieberman and Jon Kyl, the obstructionists were forced to allow a vote that overwhelmingly repudiated the nay-sayers.

Speaker Pelosi has evidently learned nothing in the intervening months about either the national security implications or the politics of obstructionism in the service of trial lawyers and at the expense of the common defense. All other things being equal, it seems likely that she will be rolled once again when Congress reconvenes in another week.

After all, as the Director of National Intelligence, Vice Admiral Mike McConnell observed on the Fox Sunday Morning program last weekend: “We cannot do this mission without help and support from the private sector….[I]f you think about the private sector global communications, many people think the government operates that. Ninety-eight percent of it is owned and operated by the private sector.” Therefore, cooperation of the telecoms with U.S. intelligence is not simply nice to have; it is essential.

The problem is that, even if Mrs. Pelosi is forced to relent relatively soon, our intelligence agencies’ “situational awareness” of terrorist activities may suffer lasting harm. As Andrew McCarthy, one of the prosecutors in the trials regarding the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993, put it in a recent blog posting at National Review Online:

“…Every day we don't fix this problem, the problem – the investigative leads you don't get, the connections you don't make, the things you don't learn but which you should know – metastasizes. Intelligence is dynamic: you can't stop collecting for a day, a week, a month or more and then figure you are picking up right where you left off. What you have lost tends to stay lost.”

America can ill afford in time of war for the House Speaker to play games with legislation designed to ensure that patriots – be they individual John Does, telecommunications companies or other corporations – are not penalized for doing their civic duty. We can only pray that, by the time she gets around to doing hers, our enemies have not advanced undetected the plots that will put still more of us at risk.

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Frank Gaffney Jr. is the founder and president of the Center for Security Policy and author of War Footing: 10 Steps America Must Take to Prevail in the War for the Free World .
 
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'John Doe' Telecoms
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'John Doe' Telecoms
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'John Doe' Telecoms
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The Craven Cowardness of Conservative's
"The saying used to be give me liberty or give me death"

Conservative commentators seem to have changed this to no amount of insecurity can be tolerated no matter what the costs to civil liberties.

Lets be clear the telecoms are accused of breaking the laws of the United State and illegally giving customer information to the government.

There is no reason to believe that these violations of the law were restricted to conversations Americans had with suspected terrorists.

In fact the government has repeatedly refused to say what they are doing. As keeping the extent of the surveillance in secret is somehow useful.

But of course it isn't at all. Because real terrorists know that anything they do can be monitored without any trouble at all.

What do they care if the American government is spying on its citizen's in an illegal manner. I am sure nothing could possibly be of less interest to the terrorists.

One of the founding principals of British liberty was that the Monarch could not exempt people or organizations from the law.

Yet conservatives want to give the President this exact power.

Remember that the worst terrorist incident before 9-11 was done by a gun nut.

What if President Clinton paid gun and ammunition producers to install listening devices in every gun and location beacons in every container of bullets.

It would doubtless be useful against a repeat of that terrorist event.

If Clinton went to congress and said these manufactures are an important part of our anti-terrorist agenda and they had been told what they were doing was legal.

Maybe conservatives are willing to give away all of their freedoms for the slightest hint of more safety.

But I and the Heros in the House are willing to risk our lives for liberty.

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Oh Beastie
I was not quoting you directly with that "we put him in power" quote. Your exact quote was, "Saddam was one of our own"...You also said that the west installed the Baathists. Wrong on both counts, unless you consider Communist Russia, "The West"

Beastie Boy
Saddam was one of our own? You really need to check your research.

Saddam came to power with the full backing and financial support of the Soviet Politbeuro. He was strongly backed by russian communists as a whole, who as I recall, we were fighting a cold war against.

Did you notice that the Iraqi Army carried Kalashnikovs? Or that they used SCUD missiles and T-72 tanks? Or that their fighters were mostly MIGs and other soviet aircraft? If we placed Saddam in power, why did he outfit his army with front line soviet gear?

Honestly man, this is not some conservative fabrication. The history is easily verifiable in about two minutes at the library or online. Saddam was Russia's boy all the way. Yes we had some dealings with him. but to jump from that to, "we put him in power" is absurd.

And yes we bear some responsibility for the change of government in Iran.The funny thing is, you started by blasting America's treatment of Arab peoples. Iranians are of PERSIAN extraction, and if you think that is a small distinction, try calling an Iranian, "Arab" to his face.


Jetpilot
You are right. Bush must follow the constitution and the law. Guess who he does not have to follow? The FISA court. Why? Because the constitution gives that court zero athority over this or any other president. We have a Supreme Court that is tasked with keeping our chief executive from violating the constitution. Why do we need a FISA court?

Did we have a constitutional amendment placing the president under FISA court athority? No. Did the Supreme Court issue a ruling demanding the president follow FISA rulings? No.

For someone who waves the constitution around so fervently, you certainly dont seem to know much about the document.

And could you please find someone else to blame for all the worlds ills other than "jews" and "neocons"? It is getting a bit tired.

LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE
Even the most conservative think tanks, organizations and news papers have said Bush's comments about FEAR and DEATH TO AMERICA are ridiculous.

FISA lapsing has ZERO affect on our safety.

All Intel & surveillance apparatus we need are still in effect. The CIA heads say they’re not affected by FISA lapsing.

Bush is politically black mailing the Dems, using his favorite lie & Fear Mongering, to get TelComs immunity for any illegal activity. Some TelComs told Bush to take a hike. They are fine.

Bush said nothing illegal happened? Than the TelComs don’t need immunity.

TelComs did illegal activity. Bush admin took short cuts, out of laziness, stupidity, arrogance, hubris and incompetence.

Bush thought it was too much work. Bush has 1/2 ***** everything, including Iraq planning, costing thousands of soldiers their lives needlessly. Body armor? Vehicle armor? Enough Troops? Political revenge (Plame, Libby), Illegal politicizing of Gov (US attorney firing, Gonzalez, Karl Rove's emails).

Illegal domestic wire taps is just another big up yours to the constitution and bill of rights from King Bush, under the "war on terror".

DEMS ARE GOING TO KILL US! Shut up.
Why does Bush and the Neo-Cons love war and spreading fear?
Bush is ONE of three equal branches of the Gov. He must follow the constitution & law.

This author is NOT a constitutional expert. He does not know law or squat.

Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. (1953) founder “think tank” Center for Security Policy, contributor, columnist, Wash. Times, National Review & Jewish World Review. He’s a neoconservative.

Neo-Con’s got us into IRAQ and I don’t believe a WORD they say, and Jews want America to protect Israel no matter what it cost. They will lie to the American people & bribe US politicians (Abramoff) to get what THEY want for Israel. I like Israel, but America first! We will go bankrupt if we stay in Iraq and lose 1000's more.

Recall Nancy Pelosi Now!
I have been searching for the protocol in starting a recall of both Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid for some time, as they are making fools of intelligent Americans with their partisan politics taking precedence over doing their jobs.

I've learned that making any headway with this must begin with the VIPs already elected into political office. When I've pushed the subject, I'm just told "It will never happen."

I'm just a patriotic American who has been voting for 50 years. But I'm also a writer with 35 years of experience in all the mediums, and I'm ready to do anything I can to get this rolling. What can an average intelligent person do?
Edie Boudreau
Eureka, NV

Beastie Boy
The SHAH of IRAN was one of our own also until PEANUT BRAIN JIMMY CARTER had him removed for WHAT, to put in the existing LEADERSHIP(KHOMEINI)
and look at the problems we have had with that country ever since.(THE EMBASSY REBELLION).444 DAYS of captivity under Carter and what happened it took an REP being sworn in as PRESIDENT for them to release the HOSTAGES. Thats why LIBS cannot be counted on to PROTECT this country. YOU are WHINNERS, NOT WARRIORS

There blame on both sides but you LIBS always seem to think that REPS are always the Problem thats why you LOOSE in NOV


Just Paul
Having Gorelich on the 9/11 Committee and believing her word is like having OSAMA BIN LADEN on your Terroist Watch Alert team after he blew up the Towers and and him stating that he had nothing to do with the BOMBINGS and LIBS beliving him becuase a REP is PRESIDENT

"They hate us for our freedoms"???
justpaul: "The attacks on September 11, 2001 were successful, in part, because liberal like Jaime Gorelick believed that it was more important to be seen as being on the side of civil liberties than it was to do the actual jobs of protecting U.S. citizens."
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It was more due, in part, to the deplorable way in which we have treated the Arab people as a whole -- overthrowing the only indigenous democracy in the region (Iran, under Mossadegh -- who was pro-West, and educated in the West -- in 1953), installing regimes like the Ba'athists (that's right, Saddam was one of our own), facilitating the massive land theft known as Israel, and bullying everyone and everything in sight.

It was also due, in large part, to the Bush regime's decision to either let it happen on purpose or actively facilitate it. Fascists like Gaffney had planned the invasion of Iraq long before it happened, and the whole scheme was to raise the price of crude oil. But in order to garner the permission of idiots like you, they had to have a "new Pearl Harbor": 9/11 happened to qualify.

Most of the evidence has been uncovered, but you are too busy watching American I-DULL.

http://www.frequencyclear.tv/PalastInterview.html

Liberals will never
take the blame should terrorists hit us again. I guarantee they will spin it into "Bush's fault". Guarantee.

The Token Speaker
has done nothing in her stint as speaker. Weakened a nation.

The most do nothing Congress ever. Something to be proud of for a liberal fascist.

When is she planning her next visit to a terrorist nation to meet with terrorists?

DocJ
Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 5:59 PM
"His people were too busy stealing letters off keyboards to do anything constructive. "

Oh, sorry. You clearly ARE one of those people who will believe anything. Next up: DocJ thinks Kerry received a purple heart for a self-inflicted wound.

Just kidding, DocJ. Nobody but Michele Malkin thinks that.

Doc
DocJ writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 5:59 PM
"All lies, Clinton was asleep, he passed on opportunities to deal with OBL. His people were too busy stealing letters off keyboards to do anything constructive."

Sure, just like Bush has passed ALL opportunities to deal with Kim Jong Il. What's that Doc? Bush can't legally go kill a bad guy just because he's a bad guy? That would mean (gasp) that Bush was following any sort of law.

So if N Korea goes nuts and starts something, then we can blame Bush II because he did not take action, right? No, that would be just plain silly to blame Bush for following the law, just as silly as blaming Clinton for passing up an illegal quest.

You are really one of those guys who believes in clearly debunked items, aren't you? Is Obama going to place his hand on a Koran when he trounces McCain?

Wikipedia is great, eh?
"All members of the 9/11 Commission agreed that Gorelick played no significant role in damaging information sharing on terrorist activities."

Isn't Wikipedia great? It resolves almost all TH misinformation.

And no, when the next president is in place, there are some things that will be hard to undo that Bush force through. We can blame Bush for making the executive branch so untouchable that you can do whatever you want and claim executive privilege (unless you are the VP, where you can claim one or the other as you deem necessary). We all hope that the power is balanced ASAP.

My comments regarding the "buck not stopping" are in reference to the total crap dished-put by the Right regarding FISA and the warnings against terrorism.

Regarding the towers: we all know that Clinton's guys were literally running around screaming at the top of their lungs to watch for specifically what happened, as well as attacks in general. Bush went weed-whacking while taking the most vacation time of any president ever. Condi ignored pleas to have meetings regarding the specific information until, what, just days before the attack. No kidding. Specific instructions and alerts and NOTHING was done for 9 months. Amazing. I guess Clinton really dropped the ball on that one, but just how he did I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around. You may as well blame all preceding presidents.

Regarding FISA: I will repeat what we all know to be true. "All members of the 9/11 Commission agreed that Gorelick played no significant role in damaging information sharing on terrorist activities." Sure she was part of the issue, but those issues stretched back for over 30 years.

What? Is there now some 9/11 Commission conspiracy? Next you are going to tell me that Senator Obama wants to take the oath on the Koran. Please tell me you aren't *that* far gone.

inthemajority
All lies, Clinton was asleep, he passed on opportunities to deal with OBL. His people were too busy stealing letters off keyboards to do anything constructive.

Truth serum would kill you.

Cue the liberal BS
intheminority,

Maybe you should go back and actually look into the system Gorelick put in place, whereby the mere possibility that someone might feel a conflict of interest existed was reason to put in place a wall between the domestic and foreign intelligence agencies which she herself admitted, on paper, was above and beyond what the law required.

Or maybe you should consider what your stance will mean on January 20, 2009. Because, by your logic, if terrorists attack then or later, it will be Hillary's fault, or Obama's fault, or McCain's fault, because they will have been "sleeping at the switch". If every stupid thing Clinton ever did ceased to matter the moment Bush took office, then every stupid thing Bush did stops mattering the moment he leaves office. I'm personally not willing to cut him that much slack; I'm shocked that you are.

justpaul
justpaul writes: Tuesday, February, 19, 2008 3:59 PM
Just Remember 9/11
"The attacks on September 11, 2001 were successful, in part, because..."

Because George was sleeping at the wheel. Geez, doesn't the buck ever stop on a Reps desk? I think it was Reagan's policies that kicked in the month before. No, wait, it must have been Jimmy Carter. Nope. Well then, lets blame Bush I, since as we have all learned it takes more than 8 years for any Republican policy to kick in.

Ohhhhhhh. I see. It was the fact that Clinton's advisors were screaming as though their hair were on fire that the next president look very carefully into the threat that some idiots would fly a plane into the towers. Maybe they were not screaming enough?

Quiz: how many months did Bush II ignore the advice that there were plans to fly planes into the towers. Extra Credit: if not enough time to actually do something about the threat handed to him, how many months did he need?

Gaffney is a liar
Or a complete idiot. Nothing has changed with the ability for George & Co to tap your phones. Nothing.

Does anyone read anymore, or do you read only those color-coded warnings that appear just before an election? If you read TH you would think that our ability to sift through all calls (no matter how it violates our rights) has changed.

So Gaffney, did you lie to get people to read your column, or are you a complete moron? Do you really hate America so much that you would lie like this?

I wonder if there is an even more radically-right element that thinks our current crop of neo-cons isn't doing enough. Can you imagine some Ollie North wannabe shouting that if the US does not listen to every phone call, watch all citizen's every move via satellite, send 100,00 more troops to Iraq, another 100,000 to Iran, occupy North Korea, and invade all other oil-producing nations that you (gasp) hate America?

So, why does Fankie hate America so much?

Right Makes Might
No one suggests that there is no threat at all from terrorists. Actually, the Bush administration policies have gone a long way toward fostering more terrorism and recruiting more terrorists.

That does not mean, however, that there is an existential terorrist threat looming over the US. If you recall, the last terror attack in the West was a bunch of guys who tied to blow up a Scottish airport with some cans of gas and rented SUV.

The end result was some nut dancing around praising Allah and burning like a torch. His "victims" had to knock him down, roll him around and try to save his life.

The point is that the terrorist threat has to be addressed realistically. In almost all cases, it will end up like the Muhammed the Human Torch guy in Scotland. We need to step back, use our resources, and worry about things that are real threats.

So then, Maury, trughes, and King Lib
I take it you think the whole terrorist threat is a figment of someone’s hyperactive imagination. Yeah, that’s the ticket! Those images of people jumping out of skyscrapers to their deaths, and then the collapse of those buildings – all special effects that Spielberg and Lucas would envy. And the promise of more of the same, why that’s just macho bluster, to cover up their own inadequacies. I mean, no sane person could possibly want to commit mass murder because he has been commanded by his god to do so.

That’s right – nobody ever said they were sane. Neither, apparently, are you. And when they strike again, one can only hope it’s your house and not mine.

Just Remember 9/11
The attacks on September 11, 2001 were successful, in part, because liberal like Jaime Gorelick believed that it was more important to be seen as being on the side of civil liberties than it was to do the actual jobs of protecting U.S. citizens.

When the next successful attack occurs, hopefully in San Francisco but more likely in Washington, DC, it will be, in part, due to the belief on Nancy Pelosi's part that it was more important to stroke George Soros and MoveOn.org than it was to protect the people of this country.

Remember as well that this bill passed the Senate with bipartisan support, and would have passed the House with the same. If the issue at hand was really the granting of immunity from scumbag lawyers and their lawsuits, that would not have been the case. Nancy Pelosi has sold us out because George Soros wanted her too. She has broken her oath of office, and she should be thrown from the roof of the Capitol Dome.

Obama??!
KL, I think you mean Osama--unless you're implying that the Honorable Mr. Obama is a terrorist.

Meanwhile, what's your solution to the problem of terrorism?

Repudiate these lies!
Nothing has changed with regards to FISA. The government can force the Telecoms to comply with spying on foreign enemies. The only difference the PPA has had was retroactive immunity for law breakers!

"McConnell observed on the Fox Sunday Morning program last weekend: “We cannot do this mission without help and support from the private sector". Did he also mention that the greatest failure of FISA, the orders from David Frasca (head of the BinLaden Unit of the FBI, Headquarters Washington, D.C., later promoted) to prevent, literally prevent the examination of Zacharias Moussaoui's laptop, could be considered the single most important failure leading to the non-discovery of the 9-11 plot.

No, he didn't mention that. Why? because he has an army of propagandists to keep shouting: "You are in danger of being attacked! Danger, Danger. Give the president all the power! Otherwise, you will all die!"

And he has an army of dupes, who refuse to look at the evidence that the entire 9-11 mass murder was a military operation. Factual evidence, like micro spheres of molten steel in the dust of the pulverized buildings, which PROVES that explosives and cutting charges were used to bring down the twin towers.

Dupes, the whole conservative movement, dupes or worse, willing participants in the profit of blood.

Too Many Trial Lawyers
While you Liberals, Lawyers and United States Citizens try to figure out whether we still have the legal tools necessary to monitor terrorist and protect our country, keep in mind that our government does not control the communications equipment. They are controlled by the Privately owned Communication Companies. Our Government relies on the cooperation of these companies for every bit of Data they receive. These companies currently have hundreds of Trial Lawyers filing billions of dollars in lawsuits against them for past cooperation with our government. These are the SAME Trial Lawyers which have spent millions of dollars lobbying the Democrats in congress and donated millions of dollars to Democratic election campaigns (Including Barack and Hillary). Unless the Communication Companies are given Immunity from prosecution, they will not cooperate in the future. The purpose of the bill that passed the Senate with bipartisan support, that Pelosi would not bring to a vote because she knew it would pass the House with bipartisan support, gave these companies immunity and clarified the rules to be followed to allow us to protect our country.

Ms. Pelosi is worried more about her own power than protecting our country

Setting the stage for Terrorism
Additional evidence that the McCain Gang is setting the stage for their facilitation of a provocative terrorist attack is their proactive argument that when their planned attact is excuted, House speaker Nancy Pelosi is to be blamed.

The presidential campaign is sadly not about who is best qualified to be president. The campaign is about how the the emotion of fear can be generated in the media with the help of a planned facilitated provocative terrorist attack to bring the fearful to vote for a military president.

Ms Pelosi
does not represent American interests. She represents the fringe interests of her district in the People's Democratic Republic of Kalifornia which are often diametrically opposed to the interests of the country at large. She also represents the interests of George Soros and moveon.org. I am sure he pays good money to get what he wants from his servants.

The only thing surprising here is that she has not introduced her own legislation disbanding the marine corps.
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