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Monday, October 09, 2006
Frank Gaffney :: Townhall.com Columnist
Kim Jong-Il's coming-out party
by Frank Gaffney
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For several years, North Korea has said it had nuclear weapons and the world has generally assumed that it did. With Pyongyang's apparent underground detonation of such a device on Monday, whatever lingering uncertainty there may have been has dissipated. Call it Kim Jong-Il's coming-out party. Now the question of what to do about one of the most dangerous regimes on the planet - a state-sponsor of terror who has expressed a willingness to sell its nuclear technology to those with the cash to buy it - recurs with fresh urgency.

Let's get one thing straight at the outset: The threat North Korea poses today is actually not appreciably different from that the Stalinist regime constituted last week. The difference is that we no longer have the luxury of ignoring it, or dealing with it through feckless "six-party talks," which amounts to the same thing.

Instead, we need to approach the danger posed by a nuclear-armed North Korea as though it constitutes a mortal peril to American strategic interests in Asia and, perhaps, to this country directly, as well. For, indeed, it does. The idea that a regime that has permitted some two million of its own people to starve to death will better treat others - including ours - is untenable and risky in the extreme.

Consequently, we need now to hold accountable those responsible for the North Korean nuclear program. Communist China has been playing a double-game for years. Without Beijing's military technology, to say nothing of its financial support, strategic protection and food and energy life-lines, Kim Jong-Il's regime would have been toast long ago and its people likely reunited with prosperous South Korea. To a lesser degree, the same can be said of the role played by Vladimir Putin's Russia.

Pakistan was the cut-out for much of the nuclear weapons know-how and equipment that flowed from China to Pyongyang. Nukes-r-Us impresario A.Q. Khan appears to have been used in transfers for which the Pakistani regime sought plausible deniability.

More recently, Iran has been an enabler of North Korea's nuclear and missile programs. Call it the oil-for-weapons program. Pyongyang has been trading mass destruction wherewithal and delivery systems to Tehran in exchange for energy supplies and, presumably, cash. The deal has helped lubricate Kim's steady progress towards ever-longer-range missiles and his acquisition of weapons to go on them. It has also greatly shortened the length of time it is taking Iran, the other charter member of the "Axis of Evil," to get up the learning curve in both areas.

Unfortunately, even our nominal ally, South Korea has become increasingly vital to propping up Kim's regime. It is investing substantial sums in the North, creating industrial zones there for which it has been seeking special treatment in trade arrangements with the United States and otherwise demanding that Pyongyang be appeased by the West.

These sorts of activities can no longer be either ignored or tolerated. While the United States is going to have to pick its shots, it must now adopt the sort of strategy Ronald Reagan employed to destroy the Soviet Union: A concerted campaign aimed at cutting off the funding to, neutralizing the threat from and de-legitimating a hostile regime. Elements of such a campaign would include the following:

Joining with Japan, Australia and others who share our view of the danger posed by North Korea to deny Pyongyang the financial life-support it must have to survive. International corporations operating in the North should be given a choice: Do business with Kim or with the Free World. Those who opt for the former should be denied government contracts, subjected to financial sanctions and import controls and made the focus of divestment initiatives like that which ultimately brought down the South African regime twenty years ago.

Greatly ramping up the U.S. effort to deploy the sort of effective anti-missile defenses first sought by Mr. Reagan in 1983. Thanks to President Bush's leadership, the United States now has the latitude to protect its people against ballistic missile attack. To date, unfortunately, the effort to do so has mostly been confined to a limited, land-based missile defense system. In light especially of the North Korean threat, we need to augment that deployment immediately by modifying the Navy's Aegis fleet air-defense ships with the capability to shoot down ballistic missiles of various ranges - whether launched from places like North Korea or from tramp steamers off our coasts.

In addition, now that the North Koreans have joined the Indians and Pakistanis in demonstrating that our restraint in nuclear testing is not preventing others from doing such experimentation, we need to resume the sort of periodic underground tests essential to ensuring that our deterrent remains as safe, reliable and credible as we can make it. President Reagan strenuously argued that such testing is a non-negotiable requirement. We can no longer responsibly persist in the moratorium on nuclear testing we have observed since 1992.

Finally, the United States must stop pretending that Kim Jong-Il's regime is one with which we can live. Rather than legitimating the regime by negotiating with it - even in multilateral settings, to say nothing of bilateral ones, every effort should now be bent towards discrediting this odious dictatorship, making pariahs of those who perpetuate it and encouraging freedom throughout the Korean peninsula.

President Reagan demonstrated that the peoples enslaved by the Soviet superpower need not be consigned to such a state in perpetuity. So in our time we must bend every effort to ending the tyrannical misrule of the nuclear club's newest, and arguably most dangerous, member: Kim Jong-Il.

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Frank Gaffney Jr. is the founder and president of the Center for Security Policy and author of War Footing: 10 Steps America Must Take to Prevail in the War for the Free World .
 
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Can't do a naval blockade
What fantasy world is this where you could do a naval blockade of that place?
Sheer lunacy. You really think that the North would just sit back and do nothing in response? They'd march right across the DMZ like nothing.
If they tried an air strike on their suspected nuke sites--big whoop that just punts the ball down the road a few years at best--they'd quite probably march south if we did any kind of air strike also. And the Chinese would not like us attacking there either. If we just try to take out the leadership there's 100 guys right in line to take over without skipping a beat. He's got that place so indoctrinated that the people there think of everything as how it relates to their 'Glorious Leader'. They have ALL of their beaches closed off with razor wire and fencing. So there is *zero* chance of any kind of a 'Democracy Project' taking form without an extreme amount of occupying ground forces over many decades. It just ain't happening!


Provocation with nukes=bad
I was thinking that trying to provoke some country who can destroy your country 1,000 times over is quite insane. Which makes this situation very grave indeed.
We are provoked and our response is...
A. Just some more ignoring--hope a dem gets elected and watch them fail so we can go back and blame it all on them again.
B. Talk some more with commies, socialists and fevered insane people
C. Give them whatever they want including a life-long supply of Micheal Jordan signed basketballs.
D. Kill them

Korean war
The reason for the pull back to the 38th parallel was that our nation was still very war weary from WW2 and the NATO 'police' force didn't have the resources to keep on fighting against the Chinese--who absorbed an incredible amount of casualties by the NATO air forces. It was a stalemate all the way with the Chinese losing about a million men. They couldn't keep up with production of ammo nor could they deliver it in a timely fasion. The logistical nightmare of maintaining that war makes the current war look like a picnic. There was all kinds of 'insurgent' activities going on all over the place in Korea back then. Our Army had to save as much ammo and fuel as possible--it was all scarce and very hard to replace. Our men were having to sleep in small tents in a roadside ditch in sub-zero weather. It was so bad that anytime a Korean war vet sees someone over in Iraq gripe about some problems with getting their e-mails out they want to grab that guy and tell them to stop being a wuss.




Kimberly
You Wrote"war is the only way" mentality seems extreme and final. If the rapture is what you're after.
Kim settle down,were not going to war with NK. now or in the future.
Stop listening to all the saber rattling,that's all it is,this is strangely enough'diplomacy.
This is how it works,he threatens us ,we threaten him,and it goes back and forth,until someone caves a little bit.
This man Kim is not crazy,he is actually smart in giving the perception he is.

I was in Korea in the early seventys as a combat photographer.
I can't go into detail,but I saw North Korea most have never seen,it is a country caught in a time warp.
At best 95% of the population lives in the nineteenth century.
So he acts like a crazy man so he can get freebies like fuel,money and Nuke.p.
That is why Iam angry at Clinton,he should'nt have been so nice,this was percieved as weak in bargaining.
So relax'it isn't as bad as it looks.

USABeliever
Well said'I agree,as to party line,Iam an Regan Repubiclan,not a Bush Rep.
When it comes to negotiating the left tends to use too much diplomacy,I take a hard line stance.
Which is exactly what NK. is doing.
So first the blockade,and then we will talk.

The past is to be learned from,if we don't'we will repeat it,and we can't afford to.
If we take a hardline stance on NK.then watch Iran.
They will want to talk,right now they are taking a position of'we are going to be Neuclear and that is our right.
So NK. is more important now than in the last 50 years.
Personally I think they did us a favor.
If we can keep China and Russia in line with us we will suceed.

Kimberly
I'm sure I can't convince you,the entire world knew that Clinton was being played,including the so called united Nations.
You actually believe that Kim was telling the truth when he said he had stopped working on Nukes?
Gees...If you are a representation of the party that wants to be in power.
We are in alot of trouble!

Reagan said it best:
Trust but verify.
NK. would never let us go every where we needed to when we were inspecting.
So how can you say prove it,when we could'nt then.

My apologies...
On the double post.. My browser had a problem for a second...

Solar...
I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry if I somewhat vented, I listen to this day in and day out, and I too am frustrated about what is going on in the world.

North Korea's "negotiating" is bully tactics. By no way does that fit the definition of negotiating. But I'll entertain Kimberly's talking for a second. Let's say they really believe that we are bullying them, and that this is justified. I am in agreement with Solar that it is NOT JUSTIFIED. You explain to me the justification on this, I guarantee you there's something that you haven't thought about on it.

My biggest fear is that the blockade, which is a great idea, is not enough. Allowing him (Kim) to have the power is not going to work this time.
True diplomacy means exactly what you said, taking a hard line. It's not just giving someone what they want. That's the type of diplomacy needed. Cutting off North Korea is one step; however inside the US and our allies, we need to figure out either how to get him out of the corner - one way or the other. Sure, what happened in the past leads to the here and now, but it's not going to change anything in the here and now unless we do it now.

I'm thankful they aren't ready to hit us... yet. But again, we need to fix this problem, not just put another band-aid on an international issue. That's something that transcends party lines. That's an American issue. That's the point I would like to bring. So if you want to say the past is due to the Dems, what does that do for the here and now. Time to put the party lines aside for something this big and fight (and AGREE) as Americans on this. So, Kimberly, Solar, and everyone else out there - are you ready if necessary to put down the party lines and agree on this point that is in front of us rather than say who is to blame for what brought us here?

Solar...
I understand what you're saying. I'm sorry if I somewhat vented, I listen to this day in and day out, and I too am frustrated about what is going on in the world.

North Korea's "negotiating" is bully tactics. By no way does that fit the definition of negotiating. But I'll entertain Kimberly's talking for a second. Let's say they really believe that we are bullying them, and that this is justified. I am in agreement with Solar that it is NOT JUSTIFIED. You explain to me the justification on this, I guarantee you there's something that you haven't thought about on it.

My biggest fear is that the blockade, which is a great idea, is not enough. Allowing him (Kim) to have the power is not going to work this time.
True diplomacy means exactly what you said, taking a hard line. It's not just giving someone what they want. That's the type of diplomacy needed. Cutting off North Korea is one step; however inside the US and our allies, we need to figure out either how to get him out of the corner - one way or the other. Sure, what happened in the past leads to the here and now, but it's not going to change anything in the here and now unless we do it now.

I'm thankful they aren't ready to hit us... yet. But again, we need to fix this problem, not just put another band-aid on an international issue. That's something that transcends party lines. That's an American issue. That's the point I would like to bring. So if you want to say the past is due to the Dems, what does that do for the here and now. Time to put the party lines aside for something this big and fight (and AGREE) as Americans on this. So, Kimberly, Solar, and everyone else out there - are you ready if necessary to put down the party lines and agree on this point that is in front of us rather than say who is to blame for what brought us here?

USABeliever
I appreiciate your stance,but for what it is worth.
North Korea did make that threat,in there mind this is negotiating.
We all know they are years from being able to hit us.
But the bigger threat is if they sell that technology to third world countries,ie. Iran Africa,etc.
This will take a blockade,which will be implemented
in the coming days.
Then we will have talks.

No one here will twist your words or take it out of context.
But the mistakes made in the past are what is going to cost us in the future,this is why we need to stand tough,and not waiver.
As for those mistakes,were predominantly made by the happy apeasement crowd. Lefties

Another point of view to present...
Folks, look at yourselves. What have we gotten into as a country, pointing a finger at each other, instead of FOCUSING ON THE PROBLEM! And the DPRK, no matter which way you slice it, is the problem the moment they threatened the US with a nuclear attack. (If you haven't seen this, you had better check.) Maybe it was out-of-context, maybe not. But the fact of the matter is, all this past stuff of blaming where we are now is NOT going to do a lick of good for what we need to do NOW.

Let me ask everyone this question – are you really an American? I mean, are you thankful that every day you wake up, you don’t have your life scripted for you, telling you how to dress, how to speak, how to act, where and what to do, and when you do things? I surely am grateful for these things. Are you happy you get to choose what food you eat, and that you have even money to make that choice? I hope so, and I hope that you think about those things when you realize what’s at stake here. Put aside the gas prices and the scandals for a moment, and think GLOBALLY. I believe idealistically every American wants peace. If not, why are you here? If you are not thankful for what you have, which is more than most others have in many other places in the world, what satisfies your life?

With that being said, it’s time to focus on the big issues. We’re all human, and you know what? Humans make mistakes. To expect anything more from anyone, including our elected leaders, is setting expectations that are unreal. That’s not to say that they shouldn’t be informed of their mistakes to hopefully improve. What would you do if you were in this position, if you were in charge? Blow up the North Koreans? I sure hope you fully understand the global position that would put us in, and for anyone that says that doesn’t matter, you have the mindset of the people we have had to quell in the past. For those that say it can be solved diplomatically, what if it cannot? How many times did you get in fights with your families where you agreed to disagree, or even worse, it got physical?

I do not disagree with trying the diplomatic route – we should try this as much as possible. But it is time to start thinking worst-case, when diplomacy fails. It’s not being aggressive, it’s being responsible. Don’t we all think worst-case at times when we think something might be at risk? I sure hope all of us would think the same way when it comes to our country and our way of life.

Then again, I’m sure someone will twist this and take something out of context… in summary, it’s time to put aside the small stuff and focus on these issues, or we WILL be helpless when it happens and we have not done anything to get ready. If someone threatened to blow up your home, your family… would you stand for it?

Kimberly writes:
Clinton had negotiated with N. Korea in order to stem their nuclear ambitions. It was working.

IT FAILED!... NEGOTIATING WITH DICTATORS ALWAYS FAILS!!

Watch video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h3GPc_yMCE

OOPS!
Sorry there was supposed to be a break at the end of his quote"
Kim' here is what Ted
Turner said during a CNN interview sept. 15 2005

"I am absolutely convinced that the North Koreans are absolutely sincere," Turner said then. "There's really no reason for them to cheat" and use nuclear power for weapons instead of generating electricity and other civilian uses.

"I looked them right in the eyes, and they looked like they meant the truth," he added. "I mean, you know, just because somebody's done something wrong in the past doesn't mean they can't do right in the future or the present. That happens all the, all the time."

This is my point strength and weakness.
Or dealing with evil.

kimberly
It takes years to build a nuclear program. Kim was building that program throughout the 90's. Period.

You say he is developing his nuclear weapons because of things Bush is saying? Bull. He is using that as his excuse because he knows people such as yourself will buy into it.

My dear, what happened after we invaded Iraq? Khadafi (sp?) of Libya GAVE UP his nuclear program because he did not want us taking him out next.

North Korea and Iran are going forward with their programs because they believe we will do nothing. Not because they are afraid we will do something. And Star Wars? Well, full speed ahead Scotty!! It is the only way we will be able to defend ourselves against these murderers.

As for the New York Times and the Post? I find they are great for wrapping fish, lining bird cages, fire kindling and also a great source for comedy skits. In fact, I often feel like I am reading a skit from Saturday Night Live when I read those papers. Especially Maureen Dowd. You just keep on defending lil' Kim and the rest of the bunch. They appreciate your support!

Kim' here is what Ted
Turner said during a CNN interview sept. 15 2005

I am absolutely convinced that the North Koreans are absolutely sincere," Turner said then. "There's really no reason for them to cheat" and use nuclear power for weapons instead of generating electricity and other civilian uses.

"I looked them right in the eyes, and they looked like they meant the truth," he added. "I mean, you know, just because somebody's done something wrong in the past doesn't mean they can't do right in the future or the present. That happens all the, all the time."
This is my point strength and weakness.
Or dealing with evil.

Kimmy
I see you think the rest of the world is as civil as us.
Well the rest of the world aproaches a problem from a point of strength.
When the west' aproaches it from a point of reason.

So knowing we only want peace'they rattle their sword.
Regan understood this,that is why Libya shutup When Bush went into Iraq,Libya gave up it's Nuke program.
This is known as dealing from a point of strength.

But when bill started his talks from a point of weakness'guess what the other side did.
Yes it threats.
He never had them contained'gee....
They were only playing him...or US

Now we must deal with them.
And they will always respect strength.

Nice try Kim
But D.P.R.K Had never stopped working on their nuke program.
Only the gullible believe that since cameras and seals were in place,then all is kum bi yah.
We don't even know half of what they have.
You should read some legitimate South Korean web sites and open your eyes.

Kimmy writes
1) Cut off nuclear talks with N. Korea
2) Stepped up spending on "star wars"
3) Threw out damning rhetoric of "axis of evil" and "rid the world of evil"
4) Developed a strategy (NPR) that detailed future nuclear wars, targeting N. Korea among others
5) Put them on a nuclear target list
6) Called Kim Jong Il a "pygmy" and "spoiled child"

Yeah' So what's your point?
I could add to that list of things he should have said.

As for negotiating with D.P.R.K.
When Morale men deal with evil men,and they compromise,who do you think came out ahead.
Gee let see did'nt Billy do that?
Oh my God I just put Clinton in a Morale position...Forgive me!
But Kimmy gets my point.

UN. or maybe UM.....
I just took this headline from Drudge.

Nuclear test condemned, UN ponders action...

UM what should we do?
The rest of the world knows we have no teeth'

And suddenly France stand's up and boldy states
We Surender!

But of course we the US. will clean up the mess,only to be ridiculed for going it alone.
You know I speak the truth!

To: NRAlifer
That was awfully nice of you to take the time to educate Donaldd'
He get's his knowledge from the networks mini hit and run news bites.
Looks like I missed some fun,I had to go to (Wallmart) and get a new mouse.

NRALifer
Well said,I had to stop because I just woke up
and new if I went on,I would say something that would probably bring the C.I.A down on me
Since I'm stuck out here on the left coast, I have to get up early to read TownHall.
Thanx for the great post.

Thank clinton! Lin Qing is right
Everything has been relatively quiet in the north since the war.
I was there in 73/74, yes every now and then we would have light skirmishes,they would always be the one's to start it though.
Just to remind the west that they were still here.

Then Billy showed up with albright ughhh..
and the spoiled child in the north learned that if you scream and threaten, you can get what you want.
This is why we have this issue at our doorstep.
Unfortunately there is no easy answer, unless we tell the united nations to take a leap and finish what started in 51.
This is not negotiable we have to stop this.
Yes the rest of the world may hate us, but all they do is bad mouth us anyway.
Besides do we really care what France or the rest of the apeasers think.
They won't be around much longer, the Moslems are taking over their country anyway,and were next.

So let's go out fighting.
Sorry I'm just pi55ed of at all the damage clinton did?
To Kimberly'remember when you negoiate with evil what do you have to win.

We need more troops to provide...
A credible threat, and there is no better source for those troops than a 3rd world country where the inhabitants are starving. If we're serious about ending the threat posed by North Korea, we must begin a multi-billion dollar asylum program, and form some korean-language battle groups in the US.

I'm thinking division-level numbers, here.

Farce?
We keep assuming that NK actually detonated a nuclear device, but the reports that I keep seeing indicate a yeild somewhere far in the sub-kiloton range. I have been involved in munitions for quite some time (actually, over 20 years) and while I am not a physicist, it certainly seems to me that it would be far easier to manufacture 100 tons or so of conventional explosive, bury it in a mine and detonate it than it would be to build a real nuke. You could even scatter some spare radioactive material around.
This scenario would certainly fit the known facts. I believe that there has been some doubt regarding the reality of a nuclear detonation because the explosion didn't seem to "fit" the profile of a nuke.
Such a fake would accomplish all of the goals of having a real weapon without the risk or expense.

Gregdn....
writes about "revisionist history."

Gen. MacArthur wanted to act preemptively against the Red Chinese, but Truman nixed the idea.

There weren't "MILLIONS of Chinese troops" who snuck across the Yalu in late 1950 - early 1951. They came across at night, in small units, advancing to pre-determined staging areas. When they attacked, the UN forces held, at first, then were ordered back to the 38th parallel.

It is rare that an army can fight in retreat. The French did it in 1914. The Cartheginians pretended to retreat at Cannae, then enveloped the Romans.

An army obeys its commander. The UN forces were prohibited from conducting offensive actions after the Chinese entered the war, except to enhance their defensive positions.

Truman fired MacArthur for daring to question his (Truman's) military/political strategy of "cut-and-run".

That's history, my friend.

Revisionist History

NRAlifer:
"Too bad the liberal's invention, the UN, failed to FIX THE PROBLEM back in 1951 when the US Marines, US Army, and the ROK Army was PIZZING in the Yalu River, and the UN forced us a "do-over" on us and retreat back to the 38th parallel. (Pre-war line)"

Truman and the U.N. didn't force us back from the Yalu, it was the MILLIONS of Chinese troops that poured across the border. In fact they kicked our asses back to well below the 38th parallel.
I only hope you know firearms better than history.


NRALifer
points out that we had COMPLETELY DEFEATED North Korea in 1951. We had defeated the North Korean Army and capture the capital, Pyongyang.

When the Chinese jumped the Yalu River, Truman (and the UN) ordered our troops to retreat back to the 38th parallel and hold defensive positions.

Chalk up another victory for the Democrats (the party of appeasement).

Harry Truman gets credit for nuking Japan twice, but he never gets credit for CUTTING and RUNNING during the Korean War.

Atomic Warfare Brinksmanshp
Sorry to hear this news, not shocked, for the Orient has little regard for human life, and has for far too long. If one country is going to cause the world the threat or misery of nuclear winter, should one bomb from that country detonate anywhere on the face of the earth, then let the retaliation on that country be one that the world will always remember. Dictators are not that smart or one of them would have already conquered all civilzaton and we would curently be living under their bootheel. Dictators never read and remember history. They are too busy preening their egos. They mistakenly feel that they are invincible. If this man drops one nuclear bomb anywhere, or sells one to someone who does detonate one, bomb them both back into the pre-dark ages. Let the world retaliate as one, remove their diplomats and send them back to the same slow radiation death they have helped heap on other world citizens. Perhaps this Korean gentleman feels that we are not ready to retaliate. He should rethink this theory. If Iran's President is willing to sacrifice all his people, then those people should we aware that he does not regard them and their lives. Let them rise up and deal with him before it is too late. Negoiations do not work with ego maniacs. We have learned that fanaticism does not recognize obscene abouts of cash to eliminate Osama Bin Ladin. Fanatics are fanatics, they recognize nothing but force. Try economic sanctions if you will, but realize in the end that death rights all wrongs with dicators. If you think my thoughts harsh, then return to your history books for refresher courses. From the postings I see on these various blogs, I know some good thinkers are about willing to post their thoughts. This is not a war that can end in truce, this one must teach a terrible lesson to a watching world. Who will teach the lesson? Old men threaten and argue and young men die. In this case, it could be the entire world. This is a tiem for those involved to issue orders to their own assassination squads to kill these dictators before they bring slow, agonizing death on the entire world.

NRALifer
My thoughts exactly. Of course the revisionists like r2d2 and the soap opera politicos like Kimberly will come in here defending Clinton/Carter.

Yet in the end Bush was right, Iran Iraq and North Korea have always been collaborators. How do you think N Korea gets most of its capital? Iran's missles and nuke tech comes from North Korea.

But of course North Korea should love us after our appeasement to them in the late 90s. And Muslims should love us for defending them in Bosnia....except they hate _who we are_ which is a point half of this country just won't accept.

Lin Qing
Our only comfort, besides our Christianity, is the certain annhiliation that will fall upon the remaining 2/3 of the world if our 1/3 goes down.

nuclear weapons
To all the North Americans who have a nice comfort zone these days I want say I have lived 4 years in China and when North Korea snubbed China on the nuclear test issue things are getting pretty tense here. It is clear that the North Korean Communists will not listen to Beijing. It is also clear that the Islamists/Iran and the Communists are continuing their plan to bring North America to it's knees, even if it means blowing up 1/3 of the world. They are willing to kill everyone to keep Conservative Christianity away from their world at any cost. They want to prove that only the new Socialism, created in August, and Islam can rule the world. And the nuclear test in North Korea proved they are serious. The technology transfer to Iran IS ALREADY UNDERWAY, I would guess.
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