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Thursday, August 27, 2009
Floyd and Mary Beth Brown :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why Americans are Up in Arms
by Floyd and Mary Beth Brown
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Leftist elites are up in arms about Americans up in arms. At two recent Obama town hall meetings, men exercising their Second Amendment rights were spotted carrying firearms. While we do not condone threatening the president or anyone else for that matter, these citizens are well within their rights. It is legal to carry a firearm while demonstrating to protect your liberties.

In New Hampshire, William Kostric showed up near a town hall meeting carrying a pistol, and a placard proclaiming, "It is time to water the tree of liberty!" in reference to the famous Thomas Jefferson quotation, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tyrants and patriots." Kostric had no intention of hurting the president; he was exercising his rights and making a political statement using the pistol as a visual reminder. When interviewed by Chris Matthews of MSNBC, Kostric said he went to the town hall because he "wanted people to remember the rights that we have, and how quickly we are losing them." After making this statement, Chris Matthews verbally accosted him and compared him to John Wilkes Booth and other fanatics. Kostric clearly explained that he was not advocating violence, but was practicing his constitutional right to bear arms.

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The second incident prompted the media to erroneously pronounce the opponents of Obamacare as racist rednecks. A young man named Chris wore an AR-15 slung over his shoulder with a 9 mm pistol strapped on his hip. Roughly a dozen others were also carrying firearms with Chris outside an Obama appearance in Arizona. Earlier, these individuals coordinated their right to openly carry firearms with the Phoenix Police Department. They deliberately did this to show the country that the Phoenix police are very supportive of their rights to keep and bear arms. The elitist media missed the whole point and went ballistic.

Chris Matthews fretted about assassination attempts, while Contessa Brewer stammered, "there are questions about whether this has racial overtones... I mean here you have a man of color in the presidency and white people showing up with guns." MSNBC's pop culture analyst Touré anxiously said, "I'm not going to be surprised if we see somebody get a chance and take a chance and really try to hurt him." However, these talking heads glossed over a crucial detail: the man carrying the AR-15 was black. They were dishonestly trying to portray the group of gun toting citizens in Arizona as racists. MSNBC cleverly edited the video footage to show only the semi-automatic rifle, hiding the face of its bearer, Chris, an African American.

The liberal media conveniently ignore that in 2000 at one of George W. Bush's events, Black Panthers demonstrated while carrying firearms. The Black Panthers actually have a history of murder and violence in contrast to the Phoenix demonstrators. The Panthers, just as newsworthy, generated no buzz at the time. They should have been referenced in light of recent events by these talking heads.

These liberal media elites outraged by gun-bearing citizens showing up at Obama events have probably never used a gun in real life. Chris Matthews, Rick Sanchez, Contessa Brewer and the rest who assume guns represent violence don't likely own a firearm. Most Americans don't see firearms as a symbol of violence, like our founding fathers, they see them as a tool for personal protection.

The founders recognized the significance and importance of firearms. "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself," George Washington movingly said. "They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence . from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference -- they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."

William Kostric and Chris have it right, if we don't stand and demonstrate peacefully for all of our freedoms, they will quickly slip away and vanish. Remember, it's much easier to hold onto something, than try and get it back after you've lost it.

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James Madison forgotten
There was a damned good reason James Madison put gun rights second only to freedom of speech in The Constitution - he foresaw the possibility of times like these!

If you believe in the original principles of the Republic that Madison and Jefferson envisioned, then you need to put the message out to those who seek to destroy our nation from within:

SAVE OUR REPUBLIC!

http://www.cafepress.com/totherepublic

Put it on your car, your head, your body, your kids. Let them know we really mean it!

(And help a simple American couple instead of a corporation)

FREE EXPRESSION
PROTECT AND PERSERVE, THE U. S. CONSTITUTION,
AND BILL OF RIGHTS..........

If the NRA EVER published all the
"Armed Citizen" stories (culled from the mainstream media BTW) they'd have to put it in a multi-volume set!!!! The gun grabbers KNOW it they just don't want ANYONE ELSE to know it.

Look at ABC and that SHAM of a "re-enactment" where they "proved" (only to members of the Brady campaign, VPC and anti-gun media trollops) that students being armed would have had no effect on the VA Tech shooting. The stacked the deck like NBC did with the model rocket engines used to ignite the saddle tanks on the Chevy pickups when they couldn't get them to explode on camera.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

I'll take old Slabsides!!
If "combat Tupperware" works for you great, but I could never hit the floor with a Glock. HATE that 8lb. trigger! With a Bureau standard S&W 4506 I was able to double the "hostage taker" target at the standard 7 yards and put the first through the bridge of his nose and the second through his right eyebrow. With a .45ACP I'd say "problem solved".

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Twice armed, still here
I have pulled and unsafed the same pistol twice for personal protection. Once was an attempted car jacking(I should have said thwarted), the second time was at home. The second time it was merely the presence of my handgun in hand that sent a young "thug" down the road. That handgun is now gone, it was replaced by a G29 10mm Glock, it's more expensive to shoot, but has more capacity and knock down power. I highly reccomend one! I think the best quote I ever read was " If guns kill people, then pencils misspell words"...

Yep, we're all racist rednecks. And. . .
. . . we will remember how the Democrats, liberals and leftists, including the state-run media, have ridiculed, derided and depreciated everyone who does not think as they think we should.

We'll remember it at least in 2010 and 2012.

And if it's pushback times two they want, then'll they get it. Non-stop. Wherever and whenever it's necessary.

Thanks Mike
for tracking the quote. I REFUSE to resort to the tactics of the gun grabbers. I will never forget when Josh Sugarman of the Violence Policy Center (formerly HCI) PLOTTING to lie to the public.

"These (so-called "assault" rifles) guns' menacing appearance combined with the public's ignorance of the difference between fully automatic and sem-automatic weapons must be used to frighten and confuse them. That is the best way to force through a ban."

If Josh's position is SO pure, righteous and noble why, then, does he instruct his press people to LIE?

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Jackypoo
I have a permit to carry and I do so!!

I DO NOT think I'm John Wayne-I KNOW I'm just *a Human Being* who will prevent ANYONE from stealing my property or harming my Family.. And if that entails SERIOUS harm/Injury--SO BE IT!!

Calm down now "cracker"

I KILLED COMMIE'S FOR MOMMY!
I spent a year in Nam as a natural born killer of evil...When Commies took over ...the murder, rape and imprisonment of millions of Vietnamese and Cambodians was horrific..That"s why we need to be armed to the teeth against this Marxist and mobster Administration that would do the same ...Obama appointed Van Jones Green Czar...He's a Commie thug and fellon..His other buddy named Jones wrote the stimulus Bill...he's a terrorist(Weathermen founder) and Marxist..! I called Obama a Marxist 18 months ago because all his mentors and friends are Marxist..! Rob<>Santee

Bogus quote
While I think the openly armed protesters are being stupid, they are clearly legally entitled to bear arms. The alleged quote from George Washington is fake: http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndbog.html.

Bunch of Worthless Cowards
Those of us that own guns own them for 2 purposes. To Protect our Homes and families and to Hunt for game.We were taught to respect our weapons by our Grandfathers and Fathers, of which fought in WW1 and WW11 to give us the freedoms we have today. Most of you Liberal Idiots have no concept what Freedoms include. It is protecting and defending our Rights as American's in accordance with The Constitution that our Fore Fathers put together that our Country was built on.
You Liberals have no respect for Hard working American's, who have also served our Country with Honor an Pride. There have 2.6 million men and women die to give you the rights to bellie ache. Do you really want someone telling you what you can or can't do for the rest of your lifes. You will be affected by all the wasteful spending and all of your freedoms being taken away from you like the rest of American's. You better wake up to reality.
We the People who are now standing up for what is Rightfully ours and not our Government's, know the sacrifices we are going to have to make to keep our Worthless Idiots in Washington from destroying America all because of GREED. We will do what it will take keep our freedoms, even if it means having to protect you idiots from being destroyed also.KEEP ON STANDING UP AMERICAN'S. WE ARE AMERICA !

Who is MIke from WA?
He won't call me on my comments, but he'll say i'm full of Idiocracy or what ever the hell that is. Too much TV. What a loser these lib are when backed into a corner. Maybe it's a good thing they fear firearms lest they shoot themselves in the foot that happens to be stuck in their mouth. That could get ugly. Question: Is WA and OR and IL worth the trouble of keeping within the Union? I don't know what's worse, an LA gangsta or a pansy from the west coast. I'll bet France could beat WA and OR combined in a white flag sword duel. Good thihg WA and OR don't have too many sunny days, it must be awful hard running from your shadow all day long. Cowards!!!!

Do MSM people
think that the presence of these firearms told the ACORN and SEIU thugs that they would not be allowed to attack protesters?

Frank #8: How do you know that that placard wasn't carried by ACORN or SEIU thugs?

lilly #37: The disrupters were ACORN or SEIU thugs

Another thought: When King George III sent his people to take the peoples' guns, he had 3,000 miles of ocean and a large navy between him and them.

jacky #56; What about the many thousands of law-abiding gun carriers who have prevented or stopped crimes in progress?

Mad Max #64:... A cop is nothing more than ... a pretty blue uniform...
This is because SCOTUS ruled that police do not have to protect us law-abiding citizens. Do you remember the Rodney King riots?

Wendy #74:...If you are so afraid of other people with guns, get one yourself...
Or they could to Cuba or somewhere else where only govt thugs have guns.

Kermudjin
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/29/career-lawy ers-overruled-on-voting-case/?feat=home_cube_position1

"Career lawyers pursued the case for months, including obtaining an affidavit from a prominent 1960s civil rights activist who witnessed the confrontation and described it as "the most blatant form of voter intimidation" that he had seen, even during the voting rights crisis in Mississippi a half-century ago."

Armegeddon,
Spamming multiple threads with the same long, off-topic rant is a good way to annoy even people who might agree with you.


I am SO SICK of that false quote!!!
I am as pro-gun as anyone including Ted Nugent and Wayne LaPierre. The "liberty teeth" quote is a "pious lie". It SOUNDS good and it's so hard to bury. Check it on snopes or any other mythbusting site.

Clayton Cramer who wrote a definitive pro-gun book many years ago researched a LOT of quotes both pro and anti-gun. Many are false such as the ones attributed to Sarah Brady.

We HAVE to police our own posts because in a thousand posts if the trolls can mine ONE myth they'll trot it out TEN thousand times thereafter.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!!

Gun hysteria
Anyone who rails against guns, demands their regulation, and is squeamish about incidents of open carry like this is an irrationalist who should be humiliated for having the gall to put their sissiness and hysteria on full display. Who would have so little self-respect that they would allow themselves to degenerate into crybabies over other people having guns? If you are so afraid of other people with guns, get one yourself. I just don't get the mentality of these people. It really is embarassing.

And if government leaders are worried that there might be an incident or a revolt, then they should stop trying to violate the rights of its people, and then it wouldn't have anything to worry about. The fault is theirs, not their citizens. They have an attitude problem, and they need to recognize that the citizens are well within their rights and are not to blame for any situation that may occur if statism persists.

Wow
I had never heard of the 2000 event where Black Panthers carried arms at a Bush event! The media did a nice job of suppressing that. Of course, it didn't have any racial overtones :)

Why I Carry a Gun At Times
"Firearms may have been the "teeth of liberty" in the 1700's but how can anyone with any brains at all believe that one needs a gun in order to protect himself -- from what? The Indians?" I've worked in cities where drug gangs killed people who spoke and worked agains them. I go into the desert where there are large government signs saying that the area has drug smugglers and other miscreants. I travel at night in isolated areas. I often camp in isolated areas. In my avocational job, I buy and sell rare stamps and therefore carry large sums of cash and valuable items in predictable areas, such as stamp show parking lots. Twice in my life I have needed my gun to prevent being robbed, and twice I have had one. I live in a state with the highest home invasion rate in the country. So-- according to lefties I'm a demented redneck loon? Ah, well, could be-- but I'm a LIVING demented redneck loon who is not confined to his house by fear of free travel in the desert that he loves to paint and photograph. I'll settle for that.

More Government Control
August 28, 2009 12:34 AM PDT
Bill would give president emergency control of Internet
by Declan McCullagh Font size Print E-mail Share 19 comments Yahoo! BuzzInternet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.



The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.

Mad Max
Your Idiocracy is obvious.

Why
do I carry a gun? Cops are too heavy!

You know
I recently overcame a life long fear of guns, having a near miss while looking for my Dad during a
strike in my hometown. It seems Union Community Organizers held a meeting and led about 300 beered up men on a rampage through my town. (My Dad was smart enough to remain behind and played cards but we didn't know that nor expect what happened). Shotguns were fired into the air by people trying to protect their
homes from the mob (a mob of otherwise decent men who were riled up by the UNION THUGS, to
go after lifelong neighbors and friends..some of them they'd fought beside in W W 2). But the hole that appeared two inches from my back in the door of the car I was standing by, was not
made by shotguns..so I have concluded after much thought that perhaps one of the GOONS was armed with something else. End of story: After dividing a happy town of family, friends and neighbors, the Union was forced to quit once the Mill decided to move to a right to work state in the South taking some of the same friends and neighbors and family (some of them mine) with them. Needless to say I HATE UNIONS!
Anyway, I joined the NRA and I have me some weapons, my two older sons who are Navy vets and qualified due to their previous rates took me out to the range and taught me to use them.
And you know what, after I learned that in order to hit the target I needed to open my eyes, I realized it's fun! I got involved because I am a Constitutionalist and to spite the leftie wimps.
Jacky..EVER HEAR OF HOME INVASIONS..Guns work really well against these thugs!

jacky,
Tell Kenneth Gladney that the injuries that put him into the hospital "have no basis in reality".

On the stopped clock principle, you are actually right about one detail. No one has the right to threaten someone with a gun -- just as they have no right to threaten them with a baseball bat (unless you're a Black Panther at a voting booth), or a fist, or any other instrument that could cause injury.

The thing is, a *holstered* gun is not a threat. It is, however, a warning that if someone does present a threat the gun will be taken from the holster -- because self-defense in the fact of a threat IS a right.

The criteria for the legal use of deadly force are as follows: To prevent an imminent threat of Death, Great Bodily Harm, or Sexual Assault.

Ken Gladney suffered great bodily harm when assaulted at a town hall by people who wished to prevent him from exercising his Constitutional Right to free speech.

Any sane person would recognize that the assault on Gladney creates a strong presumption that there would be more assaults on conservative protesters when the opportunity arose.

Going armed is a deterrent against assault. It is also a specifically enumerated Constitutional Right.

If you've got a problem with that then you're got a problem with human freedom itself.

jacky
Nice display of your arrested mental development by your childish name calling. Come back when you want to carry on a discussion and leave the name calling to HuffPo or Daily Kos.

Jacky Jacky Jacky
So people carry firearms to meetings, church, the toilet... whatever. Do you desire to be a little dictator and deny these people their right to the 2nd Amendment because your fear and anxiety levels are more than you can contain? In all of your infinite wisdom you fail to understand that those of us who carry weapons would protect you as well even if you disagree with us. Also, the mere presence of weapons at a gathering or anywhere else is a deterent to crime, violence. A cop is nothing more than you or me in a pretty blue uniform, why don't you fear his weapon? I'll tell you why, because you think with you emotions instead of your head. If the country depended on you and your kind for defense we would all be slaves to an alien gov't or dead. Get your head out of your butt and grow a spine.

jacky
It is not 'crackers' who are robbing businesses and killing innocent victims, black and white,in my county. It is not 'crackers'who have been on the dole from the county treasury.

It is not 'crackers' who have a 75% illegitimacy rate in my county. These 'non-crackers' with five or six illegitamate kids with no dads in the house.

Let's keep a civil tongue in your mouth until you look at the real facts and see just who is responsible for most of the crimes in the country.

Wasn't thinking of others
Drawing a weapon for any reason except to protect yourself or someone else from physical violence is intolerable.

jacky,
You're mighty quick with accusations of "bias" for someone whose response clearly shows that you didn't read either Lily's racist slurs against Townhall columnists who happen to have more melanin in their skins than I do OR the comments I linked to.

I guess you're exactly the same sort of racist bigot as Silly Lilly and Obtuse Angle -- the sort who find it inconceivable that a black man could not only think independently of liberal elitist indoctrination but actually be one of the guiding lights of the conservative movement.

Difference
There's a difference between carrying a weapon and drawing one. Drawing a pistol or shoulder-arm on someone for any reason other than to protect yourself from physical violence is stupid and intolerable. As a rule, gun owners who aren't in gangs or rackets appreciate this. Anyone who is licking their lips in anticipation of a 'cracker with a gun' drawing on someone else exercising their right to free speech will be disappointed by the protestor's refusal to conform to the bigoted stereotype being imposed on them.

Hey Mother
OK - now let me type this slowly so you get it through your thick head

The "union thug" thing has no basis in reality. Let me say this clearly: It Is Not True. Got that, Little Mother?

Conservatives come to this meeting to screech about Obama and to quote outrageous lies that they read on this site, World Nut Daily and other Websites For Morons and Haters.

And most importantly: You do NOT have the right to threaten ANYONE with a gun. There seems to be this new thing with the right-wing nutters where they think that they can pull a gun on someone because that person says something they don't like or insults them. NOT TRUE people.

At one of these meetings, one of these pathetic, angry, white crackers with a gun is going to pull it out when someone says something they don't like and shoot someone. Or someone in law enforcement will see that person pull a gun and shoot them.

And then all you crackers who thought you were these big bullies will be in jail.

Get it now, Mama???



jacky,
Let me type slowly so you can better understand.

If a meeting is likely to "turn ugly" the presence of visibly armed citizens is the best way to keep that from happening.

If you were a union thug out to intimidate, bully, and silence conservatives would you start trouble is you knew you were going to get shot for it?

If that poor fellow who was beaten up by union goons had been like this wheelchair bound fellow would it have been him or the thugs who ended up in the hospital.

http://olegvolk.net/gallery/technology/arms/wheelchair8396. jpg.html

An armed society is a polite society.

Wackos
These idiots ramble about missing the point. This isn't some exercise in freedom or liberty -- any child knows that taking guns to a meeting that is likely to turn ugly is asking for trouble.

Firearms may have been the "teeth of liberty" in the 1700's but how can anyone with any brains at all believe that one needs a gun in order to protect himself -- from what? The Indians? The British? What next? The world is flat? No medicine for high blood pressure or diabetes just like in the 1700's?

That "I'm carrying guns just because I can" attitude shows the stupidity and arrogance of conservatives today. That's where their morals are -- putting people's lives in danger "just because they can"

Lily,
You're hopelessly behind the times.

You're left-liberal, bigoted racism was soundly defeated last week in the comments from one of Dr. Sowell's columns.

http://townhall.com/columnists/ThomasSowell/2009/08/21/whos e_medical_decisions_part_iv?comments=true#comments

Obtuse Angle is a good bit brighter than you are so there's no point whatsoever in you attempting to spread that bigoted drivel.

Unless you enjoy being the target of derisive laughter, that is.

Talent Scout,
That's a funny one!

Have you seen the reverse version?

10. A gun doesn't mind if you stop and ask for directions.
9. A gun doesn't ever reek of beer or cigars
8. A gun won't pout if you have a headache.
7. A gun always enjoys going out with you and will never ask “Do we have to go there again?”
6. You can buy fancy new grips for your gun and it won't complain about how they look or fit.
5. A gun doesn’t leave dirty socks or underwear in a pile next to the hamper.
4. A gun doesn't come with an ex-wife or a mother.
3. Guns never have comb-overs, beer bellies, or rear cleavage.
2. A gun will never ignore you in favor of watching sports.
AND THE TOP REASON.....
1. Guns don't hog the TV remote!

Katrina
Let's not forget the most recent example of inner city looting: Katrina! Even some uniformed NO police took part!

Take Note,
People should take careful note of the fact that after citizens started showing up at their town halls bearing arms no more black conservatives in wheelchairs were beaten up by union thugs.

Poor old brain-dead Lilly!
God bless poor old deliberately irrational Lilly! I wonder who grows her food for her. Oh yes, probably the little Chinese slave girls at Walmart.
The thing with libs is that they have a defective gene that refuses to recognize the scientific laws of cause and effect, especially the ones about economics. You know, 1) the more you tax something the less of it you WILL get, and 2) the more you subsidize something (e.g. poor life choices, unwed motherhood, laziness, etc) the more of it you WILL get.
Oh well, one of these days she can go to one of the death panels for counseling when she gets tired of hanging out on this planet. Her false messiah Obama will take good care of her!

About Old Lilly's Posts Last Night
Ah yes, the ‘60s, when the youth took to the streets to show their concern for the yellow man being killed by the black man, sent by the white man to save the land stolen by the red man. Yes, yes, yes those war protestors were oh so principled. . . . . until the draft ended in ‘71. Then, for some strange reason, all that concern for the yellow man ended. Funny, how that worked. I suppose one might infer that all that principled concern was merely about their concern for their own safety, that they couldn’t give a d@m about the war, and that their revolutionary zeal had more to do with getting in the pants of campus chicks than anything else.

Anderson-
Kinda like the comedian who said he should be able to blame his pencil for misspelled words!

Here in Arizona
A lot of people carry weapons in public. It sdcares the liberals who congregate at Starbucks with towels under them to keep from staining the seats while they pant, stutter, and whine about guns.

Poor balanced, scared by inanimate objects.

Balanced and company actually belive inanimate objects, not people are the cause of crimes and violence.

Balanced
I meant that the blonde joke was funny. I don't find jokes about Christianity funny. Even if the shoe was on the other foot,so to speak, I'd find it sad to make fun of non-believers. That's where I draw the line on "funny".

Balanced
That was "so-so",but I appreciate the effort! (Actually,the more I think about it,the more I like it!) Got any more?

MORE HUMOR
How many christians does it take to change a lightbulb?
One to change it and hundreds to see the light

Lilli @ 11:23
Sounds like those poor rioters with their "less-focused agendas" just needed better "Community Organizing"!

Balanced-so you say,...
I think Talent Scout's,"Why Men Prefer Guns" was one of the funniest things I've read in a long time,and God knows we could use some laughs with all that's going on these days! That's the trouble with "you people"(as y'all are fond of saying),you can't take a joke! That's not very balanced if you ask me! By the way,I AM a 40-something woman,and blonde at that,and no one laughs more at a good blonde joke than I do! I'm also married to a terrific man who wouldn't trade me for all the "22's" in the world!)The BEST thing is that my identity comes from a loving,living God,who gave His only Son,..So I don't have to worry about what the world thinks of me or wants to label me as,because I'm secure in Him. I also thank Him quite often for allowing us a sense of humor because it'd be an awfully bitter world without it! Lighten up!

Lilly
Correction??? Not leftist rioters?? Are you seriously trying to tell me those looters vote GOP? Fact is, rage and desperation ARE the driving force of inner city politics. No wonder. Clerics like Jackson, Wright and Sharpton prey upon those of weak character searching for a reason outside themselves for their misery.

At the U of F in the sixties, the SDS announced an organization meeting in the student union. Shortly after the meeting began, the National Guard showed up and the organizers were jailed for trespassing. They were NOT given excused absences and were subsequently suspended for the semester for excessive absences. That pretty much endedthe U of F as a hotbed of student rioting.

The current trends can not continue, Lilly.
The current economic slowdown is trivial compared to the ignored shortfall in funds to pay for social security and Medicare as the Boomer burden hits. Massive inflation is the best we can hope for. The rage and desperation in inner cities now will be nothing compared to what's coming. Justifiabley so, since these are the people trying to vote themselves rich on other people's efforts. You at least have good intentions, though the sad result is the same. You seem to be in your fixed income years. I hope you are getting fixed for the upheaval.

Eric Blair, JD's Handsome Son
Thanks Eric, i'll give your suggestions a jingle.

JD
I have a Sig single stack 9mm. Its a very ergonomic design, and i like that big hunk of metal in the ejection port, which seems a stronger lockup to me than the 1911 type. I have some Austrian SWAT loads, 100 grain hot core at 1450 fps. The Euros load 9mm pretty hot. Most of the modern poly jobs just turn me off, though. I like carefully machined steel and Colt Royal blue, or high polish stainless. It just seems to be more fun to shoot a highly crafted piece of machinery.

To Pistol: A Correction
Actually it was the inner city poor, not "leftists", who looted and smashed and torched the cities in the 1960's. Inner-city residents, destroying their own neighborhoods, were motivated more by rage and desperation than by politics.

Left-leaning students, protesting the war in Vietnam, mostly did their protesting on campuses. At the university where I was working at the time, when Nixon invaded Cambodia, students marched down the Quadrangle, invaded the Armory, and threw the ROTC records out the windows, before setting fire to the furniture. Then the National Guard showed up and shot tear gas into the dormitories. Helicopters hovered. Swat teams swarmed. An elderly professor was arrested and jailed overnight for saying "Bullsh**" to a police officer. We were under martial law. We got directives from the administration telling us to count a student's absence from class as "excused" if he was in jail. Those were exciting times. But students pretty much confined their hell-raising to campuses. Their clear focus was the war; the folks who burned the cities had a different and less-focused agenda.

To JD's Bloodthirsty Son
Ho hum, nothing new here. JD, I'm about to go to bed and don't feel like getting out my files again. I have already posted about sixteen times your various posts with detailed and graphic plans for murdering Democrats, liberals, homosexuals...anybody you don't like.
You sound like a regular sweetheart. So today you went out and practiced your killing techniques. Is that news? We already know that you enjoy having a lot of guns; you've told us that before. I bet you sit around in the evenings just rubbing and rubbing them.




So What
It was obvious on television that the man carrying the AR-15 was a black man. So why can't he be a right-wing racist? Plenty of black right-wing racists write articles for townhall.com. Redneck is an attitude: a black neck can be red.

TV had been showing, for two or three weeks, townhall meetings in which citizens did their best to intimidate their elected representatives (one Florida GOP ran a how-to online saying the purpose of the meetings was to instill fear in the Congressmen). We saw out-of-control protesters screaming and spitting into the faces of Congressmen. To suggest bringing firearms to such a gathering, whether legal or not, was an irresponsible stunt.

Balanced and Like Minded Things
Balanced, you hoe moe, actually we mighty rightie whities are doing OK with the women. Other than your short haired mean faced bull progressive man haters with bushy armpits, all the women prefer men who don’t take more time than women fixing their hair, waxing, and moisturizing. They are also repulsed by the scientific fact that many liberal men are growing female breasts, a natural adaptation to being deballed feminists who now can even nurse the kids borne by their domestic life partners and fathered by other mean while those liberal eunuchs are doing the housework.

A new magazine on the market, “Whipped”, is geared toward progressive men that reflects these amazing evolutionary changes on your side of the political aisle.

Hope this helps.

Shut up unbalanced
You mindless pos

TALENT SCOUT
Oh, that's okay - it just makes it twice as stupid.

Are any women listening, here? This is the very attitude that sums up righty men. Whatever works for them and let the women (and everyone else) serve them.

Talent - I can only hope that evolution does not allude you before your day is up.

COWBOYS
There were even saloons in the good old days that required cowboys to hand in their firearms at the doors. Just so there was no question about 'bad intentions.'

You also have the right to stand up in church and fart on someone's face, but rarely do you do it.

On townhalls and John McSame. Note his comment, "We don't shout at MY townhalls." And, of course, the escort out of the one woman who wouldn't stop yelling at the last one. Imagine his reaction had there been an organized shout down. Phew! Maybe he would've waved his gun at her (it would've been well within his rights in Arizona).

I had no idea I doubled that
Sorry

Top 10, why men prefer guns
Above women


#10. You can trade an old 44 for a new 22.

#9. You can keep one gun at home and have another for when you're on the road.

#8. If you admire a friend's gun and tell him so, he will probably let you try it out a few times.

#7. Your primary gun doesn't mind if you keep another gun for a backup.

#6. Your gun will stay with you even if you run out of ammo.

#5. A gun doesn't take up a lot of closet space.

#4. Guns function normally every day of the month.

#3. A gun doesn't ask,"Do these new grips make me look fat?"

#2. A gun doesn't mind if you go to sleep after you use it.

And the number one reason a gun is favored over a woman.....

#1. YOU CAN BUY A SILENCER FOR A GUN
#10. You can trade an old 44 for a new 22.

#9. You can keep one gun at home and have another for when you're on the road.

#8. If you admire a friend's gun and tell him so, he will probably let you try it out a few times.

#7. Your primary gun doesn't mind if you keep another gun for a backup.

#6. Your gun will stay with you even if you run out of ammo.

#5. A gun doesn't take up a lot of closet space.

#4. Guns function normally every day of the month.

#3. A gun doesn't ask,"Do these new grips make me look fat?"

#2. A gun doesn't mind if you go to sleep after you use it.

And the number one reason a gun is favored over a woman.....

#1. YOU CAN BUY A SILENCER FOR A GUN

"Lay down your arms, you damned rebels"
talent scout:

"Massachusetts Colony was a hotbed of sedition in the spring of 1775. Preparations for conflict with the Royal authority had been underway throughout the winter with the production of arms and munitions, the training of militia (including the minutemen), and the organization of defenses. In April, General Thomas Gage, military governor of Massachusetts decided to counter these moves by sending a force out of Boston to confiscate weapons stored in the village of Concord and capture patriot leaders Samuel Adams and John Hancock reported to be staying in the village of Lexington."

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/lexington.htm

Pistol
Hi Pistol, and everyone else. Perhaps my last post was a bit over the top, but I had just returned from an all day battle rattle at the range today. For some strange reason, my team of fellow shooters and I felt inspired to shoot guns since yesterday. Can’t imagine why. Anyway, with all the fun the testosterone level was likely elevated.

There were all sorts of Class 3 weapons: full autos, short barrel rifles, and some with sound suppressors. Everyone was jocked up too, with Molle vests crammed full of high capacity magazines for our multiple gun tactical and defense scenarios. We’re fortunate that we have a range that allows us to carry hot, move from stage to stage, transition from carbine to handgun, and other activities. Among us are LE and current and former military, but they’re not the better shooters. It’s the IT guys, engineers, and other layshooters who are the real experts and gun fighting.

Thousands of rounds were shot today and the flag at the range was waving high. The weather was good too. No mourning here.

Since you’re able to give a detailed list of some, or all, of your weapons, you should be concerned that you are not sufficiently armed. I suggest you rectify this immediately. You are free to make your own choices, but if I was pressed to offer my advice I would encourage you to buy several of the following: S&W MP, any caliber, Glock 19, any SIG or H&K, and Springfield XD and XDM. They are tough, reliable and stand up to abuse.

Instead of Guns....
What if we just throw CFL lightbulbs instead?!...But seriously,as Abraham Lincoln said,"The people of the United States are the rightful masters of both the congress and the courts,not to overthrow the Constitution,but to overthrow those who pervert the Constitution." God Bless America,please!!!

Spirit of '76
Our Founders started revolting at a lot less than we're facing today. Time to tar and feather these traitorous bastards in DC!

Max
Don't worry about typos.
I am the worst on TH and its not a big deal for me or most anyone else here.

I am positive the shot heard around the world was caused by the Red Coats coming for guns though

Holy Cow!
I'm having one hell of a hard time spelling tonight.

Scout
I think it was more than that. Trees belonged to the Crown as did the wild life which meant no diner or diner table. Taxas an so forth.

I'd laugh
I'd have to laugh if anyone from NBC got buttscrewed in a dark ally in their beloved NYC because they couldn't or wouldn't defend themselves. That would be poetic justice.

Great quotes Billy
If I remember right what set the American Revolution off to begin with was confiscation of guns.


Pistol
Try Numrich, http://www.gunpartscorp.com/. Or Richards Microfit Stocks, http://www.rifle-stocks.com/

My AARP Card stands for Armed And Really P!ssed!

Molon Labe!

Our Founding Fathers On Guns...
“The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” -Thomas Jefferson

"The great object is that every man be armed." -Patrick Henry

"When firearms go, all goes - we need them every hour." -George Washington

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms." - Thomas Jefferson

"To disarm the people- that was the best and most effectual way to enslave them." -George Mason

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?" -Patrick Henry




Correction
Maybe I should learn how to spell YOU"RE correctly. Now I look like the IDIOT I'm calling an IDIOT.

JD's Handsome Son
You do make me smile, sometimes. I just realized i am not certain just how many i own. Do i count the long slide .45 i have on layaway 'til next month? How about the .357 92 clone i loaned to my second cousin who shoots it like she grew up with it and its the only thing she shoots? Do i count the .30/40 model 95 with the busted buttstock and excellent metal. Its not really a shooter. Any body know a good source for an original replacement stock, or a good man to repair the original wood?

To: Intestinal Gashouse of Flatulation
Oregon huh? Figures! I've read some of your other posts, YOUR AN IDIOT!

Trumping the Race Card
It seems that both the folks in the Obama administration, to include Obama in my opinion and their media sycophants believe that the "Race Card" still works. Sorry, that dog won't hunt, we need only consider the ethnicity of the President of the United States to understand why.

The people who have been so patient with the race baiters have had enough of the shake downs, the attempts to shame the public with a dishoner for a time now over two hundred years old.

No, there is a new card in the deck. It isn't the Joker, it is the card we call "Liberty." It trumps all others regardless of color and suit. Don't play the race card on us again Mr. President, we don't allow it in the game anymore.

Mad
Are you the resident hayseed?

Escalation
Remember the sixties? The left wing moonbats occupied College offices, rioted and burned major cities, shot LEOs at random to make a point. At some point the worker bees, the solid folks lost patience, the National Guard increasingly often got involved and then came Kent State. All the fun went out of it for a while. But things have been ramping up again. Black Panthers at a voting place? How long before provocation meets counter provocation andsome people get seriously hurt?

So much for Barry the great uniter. Igniter would seem to be more like it.

Mad Max
So many trolls...so little time.

What a wuss
Mathews claimed BHO sent shivers down his spine (suspect) when BHO spoke. The sight of firearms must have sent shitters down his leg.

Question
Is Frank the resident troll?

Just well known trick Frank
"someone carried a placard:

"Death to Obama
Death to Michelle
and their two stupid kids."

No doubt about it, it was was of your own.

Just like the guy in Denver was one of your own.
You people are treacherous Frank

Yeah, but...
Author left out that at a town hall in Maryland (NOT with President Obama) someone carried a placard:

"Death to Obama
Death to Michelle
and their two stupid kids."

There is basis for calling some demonstrators "crazies."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090813/ap_on_re_us/us_health_c are_obama_sign

Gunophobics
Par for the course for the Chris Matthews and the rest of his pravda crowd.This is why nobody watches them.

Up In Arms,Literally.
Up in arms is the operative statement. Obama has meant more to the sales of arms than anyone or anything in my lifetime. He is the 'Salesman of the Century'.

Many things are happening behind the scenes in this administration that are troubling. Pieces of the puzzle involving the czars and their past activities are coming together and it is not a pretty picture.

Definitely worth repeating:
The founders recognized the significance and importance of firearms. "Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself," George Washington movingly said. "They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence . from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurrences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference -- they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."


The way things are going this right
looks even more important. Osama and his minions the SEIU and ACORN thugs are actively intimidating regular folks at these meetings.

New Black Panthers
Now that Att. Gen Holder has given the New Black Panthers the authority to disrupt voting precincts, armed with Brownshirt tools does anyone NOT feel less secure about what this administration intends to do to our nation?

Wait until next election, and the same creeps show up to threaten voters! What else did Holder's decision tell the Panthers, having dropped the charges, other than "Y'all come back now!"

_resident Odumbo promised that he'd have the most transparent administration ever. I can see how that works. His intentions are certainly transparent.

_resident Odumbo is the most transparent _resident in history! You can see right through him!

Mad Max
Excellent post. Couldn't say it better myself. :)

Who says the pen is mightier?
Mathews and Brewer and the rest are puppets for NBC. They all have the same opinion and read the same teleprompter, therefore, they are pleasing the same master who signs their paychecks. No American can be as spineless as NBC anchors portray themselves. The irony of all of it is that these Americans are suppose to be keepers of truth. The press, the torch that lights the darkness that politicians hide in. I've listened to Mathews spout lib propaganda about the protesters. It's rather ammusing, although I wouldn't want to have to rely on Mathews to cover my back from a foxhole. There are many roads to cowardice, NBC's crew crawled there on their knees.
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