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Friday, August 22, 2008
Floyd and Mary Beth Brown :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama Patriotism and Worldview Declared Off-Limits
by Floyd and Mary Beth Brown
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Addressing the Veterans of Foreign Wars Convention in Orlando, Barack Obama declared, "I will let no one question my love of this country."

Obama has felt the sting of recent attacks from conservative critics, and prominent Democrats have been pressuring him to hit back harder at John McCain.

Universal praise of John McCain's performance in their first joint appearance at Saddleback Church also has the Obama campaign on the defensive. But we believe the recent polls are tightening not because of Obama's failure to get tough. The race is tightening because Obama's worldview is coming into focus.

A worldview colors how a person sees situations; it reflects his approach to tackling difficult issues. Americans are starting to see the candidates' viewpoints, which are often diametrically opposed. There is a sharp contrast in the two men's philosophies, and their approach to answering questions is as different as night and day.

At the Saddleback Forum McCain spoke decisively, with clarity and confidence. On the other hand, Barack Obama waffled and vacillated.

Obama measured each word; trying to play it safe as if to make everyone listening happy. Either he doesn't know what he believes or Obama was trying too hard for approval. At times he rambled, speaking in abstractions rather than concretely as McCain did.

McCain told colorful stories, giving specific examples to make points. This helped to reach people by touching their hearts. One moving story he told concerned his time as a POW. One Christmas day, a guard drew a cross with his sandal on the dirt in the courtyard for McCain. "For a minute," he said, "there was just two Christians worshipping together. I'll never forget that moment."

We felt uncomfortable at one point when Obama described his wife Michelle belittling and berating him. Obama said any leader "needs somebody who can get in your face and say 'boy, you really screwed that one up. You really blew that.'" This made Obama seem weak and wimpy.

Especially telling was the question on evil. Obama said "we see evil all the time" and we need to confront it. However, taking the USA to task, he said, "[T]he one thing that I think is very important is for us to have some humility in how we approach the issue of confronting evil, because a lot of evil's been perpetrated based on the claim that we were trying to confront evil."

This lecture on the evil of America was unexpected, and we could hear echoes of Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's friend, the terrorist William Ayres, and his communist mentor Frank Davis. Remarks such as these cause Americans to question his patriotism.

McCain, by contrast, adamantly pronounced we need to defeat evil and "if I have to follow him to the gates of hell, I will get bin Laden and bring him to justice." He identified radical Islamic extremism as an example of evil that must be defeated.

Obama became pessimistic and negative several times. For example, he said, "I feel like that [the] American dream is slipping away.our politics is broken and Washington is so broken"

Visions of Jimmy Carter sitting in his sweater talking at us came to mind when Obama began lecturing on energy. "[W]e are going to sacrifice," Obama explained, "and know that there will be a price to pay in transitioning to a more energy-efficient economy."

Leadership is what people want to see in a president but Obama projected timidity, indecision with a hint of elitism. McCain spoke succinctly with realistic optimism and faith in the American people, imparting the idea that we will conquer our problems here and abroad.

John McCain came off as the kind of leader who is willing to make tough decisions and knows what to do in a crisis. Obama's recent request that we not discuss his patriotism will be ignored if he doesn't start to project a more masculine image soon.

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First African American President
I continue to believe that the first african american president will be a Republican. Also, the first female president will be a republican.
Brian

Obama is falling...
The Jayhawk believes Sen. Obama is falling in mericn polls NOT because of his candidacies perceived shortcomings, but due to the brilliant policies proposed by Sen. McCains campaign.
The columns here at TH are a striking example of this.
Such brilliant and thoughtful discussions of what might be the best course for the future.
So devoid of attacks on the personality and character of the opposition.
This site is a tribute to the persona of the mericn people.
You should be very proud. Pat yourselves on the back.

Obama Patriotism?
Maybe if he stopped bad mouthing America long enough to see how well off he is compared to the average American, we would believe his patriotism a little more. The truth is he's a Commie and a Marxist because that is what he preaches. He's not fit to be dog catcher much less president.

Obama,The Presumed President
Barack Hussein Obama has always named things he will not tolerate. His patriotism,being one.We all know he has no patriotism.

He is a 'citizen of the world'. He told us so. If he is elected and given a free hand, we will all soon realize just what that means.

More Masculine?
He can't act more masculine, he's afraid Michelle will beat him up!

the proper standard


Pardon if I pat myself on the back.

Nobody can ever say they're more patriotic than ME.

And I intend to vote for John McCain. Enough said.

dreadnaught
and this is the old senile fool who champions illegals because he finds them cute, artistic, can play music or can ride horses.

But I guess when you reach the age of 70, the arteries in the brain harden, senility sets in and you can't understand how illegals are criminals who have broken our immigration laws and steal the social services that american taxpayers foot the bill for.

To olds fools like dreadnaught the fact that hospitals lose $millions to treat illegals and that those who actually pay for health care are finding it harder to get service means nothing

That illegals increase the crime rates everywhere they infest also means nothing to this old fool. Since he is an illegal champion and criminal enabler he has no respect for the law.

But this old fraud also claims to be a conserv. What a joke. Conservs do not encourage the illegal invasion, conservs do not enable criminals who break our laws.

But claiming to support mccain comes as no surprise for mccain was fully on board to grant amnesty to the millions who have broken our laws.

But even worse this old fool actually thinks he believes in america and what it stands for. The only thing that makes old senile dreadnaught happy is the hope that one day there will be open borders where any illegal can walk into america.

But then again what can you expect from some old fool who needs a drool cup when he isn't gumming his strained carrots.

But even worse he hates america to the point he doesn't believe it should be defended and that it's laws should be obeyed. Truly a pathetic example of liberal mutlticulturalism who have no value system but believes when america is dimished the world will be a better place

Better he should go soak his head

Help for Our Fellow Citizens
Obama hates his country. And he's not alone. Fully half of this nations's citizens hate their own country.

They hate their country today like they hated their parents in the 60's because they were given too much and asked to do too little for all they were given. They're resentful that they weren't given boundaries, that they had to figure it out on their own and they failed.

The few that truly like ultimate freedom are the ones who went on to build their own fortunes. But the majority of the masses don't want to be free, they want to be fed and clothed at someone else's expense. They are serfs and slaves and they need a government to take away from those who worked harder and/or who are smarter and redistribute the capital those harder workers created.

Today's democrats are simply children in adult sized bodies.

Conservative need to therefore adapt their strategies to deal with democrats. Rather than appease them, conservatives should stompt them, literally. Registered democrats should be stomped or otherwise abused. This will give them the boundaries and limitations they desperately need so they can wean themselves off of their therapy and drugs.

Stomp liberals. You'll be doing them a favor.

Billy Ayers getting bigger & bigger
I am looking forward to learning more about the hidden library files which no doubt link BHO with Billy Ayers.

Isn't it interesting that when the Ayers connection first came up, BHO made like he was just some guy in the neighborhood who attended a few meetings with BHO. He also pretended that he (BHO) thought that Ayers was an English professor. Now, no less than Mayor Daley tells us "They were freinds ... so what?" and BHO's rebuttal of the Corsi book tells us that Ayers and Dohrn are "mainstream".

Once again, the story is changing ... the news media should be all over this, but the TIME reporters are too busy lobbying for the eighth BHO cover in a year!

scotch indian
din't the messiah also tell the big lie that he and ayers met because their kiddies went to school together. Since ayers is in his 70's and the messiah is 46 it is more likely that ayers kids are the same age as b hussein.

But then again when has b hussein ever been totally truthful.

His acoltyes say he is nuanced in his answers. I guess that means telling a little fib isn;t the smae as lying.

But then again is guess nuanced is also like only being a little bit pregnant

david2 back for the ten count?

He dropped dead on me yesterday.


dreadnaught
"champions illegals because he finds them cute, artistic, can play music or can ride horses." ......... Did I champion anybody? All I said was they're not scum or trash. YOUR hate speech. You're using Nazi rhetoric.

"illegals are criminals who have broken our immigration laws and steal the social services that american taxpayers foot the bill for."

I'm 70 and it makes you upset? I hope you reach 70, racist.

To olds fools like dreadnaught -- hospitals lose $millions to treat illegals and that those who actually pay for health care are finding it harder to get service means nothing."

It means nothing unless you can prove it.

"illegals increase the crime rates everywhere they infest also means nothing . . . You're right-- it means nothing, Nazi.

"he is an illegal champion and criminal enabler he has no respect for the law."

No need for me to deny that. Everybody knows you're lying, RACIST.
"Conservs do not encourage the illegal invasion, conservs do not enable criminals who break our laws."

Neither have I, Racist hate-monger. Because I do support immigration laws. I AM a conservative.


Part 2 cleaning David's clock


A racist says:
"to support mccain comes as no surprise for mccain was fully on board to grant amnesty to the millions who have broken our laws."

SO AM I, Nazi hate-monger. And I'll VOTE for McCain! I'm proud to say;

"He believes in america and what it stands for; dreadnaught . . . the hope that one day there will be open borders where any illegal can walk into america."

\\\\In your dreams, Racist.///

"he hates -- ? ? ? ? ? -- america doesn't believe it should be defended and that it's laws should be obeyed."

(He's not talking about old Naughty.)

I defend it. I support laws. I obey laws. YOU incite hatred for a harmless ethnic group because you're a white supremacist. You're out of your mind with hatred.

"Truly a pathetic example of liberal mutlticulturalism,"

Mexicans and hispanics were HERE in this land way before white supremacists settled here. So what are you beefing about? I'm no LIBERAL; you're a racist.

I suggest YOU hate the original settlers of this land because of their race. . . . and their descendants who live in Mexico.

David sends his Nazi salute to Dreadnaught,

Came & got his clock cleaned again!!! Poor schmuck!


the true dreadnaught position


I support our Border Patrol & apprehension/deportation of illegal entrants.

But, I approve of Amnesty as relates to Comprehensive immigration Reform. There is nothing harmful to America about allowing 7 to 9 million illegals to have a path to citizenship.

I hate racism and white supremacy advocates. I believe we have flagrant racists posting frequently here in Town Hall. I can name several. They have FAILED every time they confronted me on this subject. (Some of them aren't very bright.)

Some have clearly insisted "no amnesty" mainly on grounds of hatred. NOT LAW.

Of course, this is MY opinion, anyone who wishes may dispute it if they like. But I judge by their hate speech and vitriol. Not by my own emotions.

I don't get emotional. I'm unflappable. I have no other axe to grind except responding to the virulent, racially-charged rhetoric of a few --who are always agitating.

THEY SHALL FAIL. We are on the way to Comprehensive Immigration Reform and they can't stop it.

VOTE FOR McCAIN !

OFF LIMITS!
HUSSEIN will never suppress my FREEDOM of SPEECH and nothing is "OFF LIMITS" except perhaps the sedition being practiced by the leadership of the democratic party and their fellow travelers. The Americans in the democratic party need to throw out this bunch of Socialist. They are giving American democrats an unjustified bad taste to the rest of America

0blahma's "patriotism" to US
is the same as that of former Canadian PM's Trudeau (who "birded" his own country in 1982), Mulroney (see Meech Lake Accord of 1990) and Chretien (who served under Trudeau as member of cabinet, and rewarded Mulroney with Order Of Canada--the nation's highest civilian award--and Trudeau with airport rename) towards Canada--which can be deduced from my earlier text to be ABSOLUTELY NONE!

dreadnaught
what's wrong you old senile fool. Obviously you have no comprehension of history. Since the spanish conquered mexico and either enslaved the native people that were already there.

How many thousands of aztecs did the spanish kill in their pursuit of gold. Since the spanish were conquerors and enslavers why are you crying for their decendents return to spain and return mexico, central and south america and the many islands in the caribbean to the people that were originally there.

But then again you pathetic old fool you still efuse to answer the simple question of why we need give any special treatment to those breaking the laws of this country.

But you are the racist as you hate the citizens of this country who want our laws enforced so that your hispanic relatives can continue to come here unchecked.

But you still maintain these illegals with the equivilent of a 7th grade education and are illiterate in english will contribute to the most technologically advanced country on earth.

But you still refuse to answer why these illegals have the right to come here and steal the social services that taxpayers are paying for.

But the drooling fool still maintains that if you oppose illegals breaking our laws to invade this country we are the racists. That we are tired of illegals who not onlysteal social service but increase the crime rates everywhere they infest and that the additionalcosts of prosectuing the illegal criminals and putting them in prison is also costing society many billions.

But this country is also facing a growing crime rate caused by ultra violent hispanic gangs terrorizing the neighborhoods they live in.

And still the simpleton dreadnaught can't get it into his head that illegals are causing society huge problems.

But not only are you stupid you are blind to the problem. But even worse you both encourage and enable criminals. You are patheticaly naive and that is the dangerous attitude.


dreadnaught
you claim to follow the law but you obviously have no respect for the law. In you pathetic mind laws against illegals shouldn't be enforced so that justifies you supposed respect for the law.

You claim you don't get upset but I notice you were a foul mouthed old fool yesterday. If you are in such control of your emotions why the need to use gutter language.

Obviously you are both a liar and a hypocrite. You can' justify why illegals should be allowed to steal our social services.

Why not just answer this one question.

But in your feeble world you think that calling others racists and nazi's wins your argument.

But the truth is you ignore the discussion because you can't defend your position.

But as they say when you must resort to gutter language you have already lost the argument. And that makes you a real loser

But we know you will still help your hispanic relatives relatives aand make excuses for their breaking our laws and the lack of respect you have for this country.

But the country already spoke out about mccain's feeble efforts to give amnesty. While the country needs a comprehensive immigration policy, all illegals need to return to their countries of origin and get in line like all those in other countries who are waiting their turn to immigrate here.

No one I know is opposed to legal immigration but illegals are not hear following the laws and as criminals they are entitled to no special treatment or special consideration'

But since you are a senile old fool you can't understand the difference.

Hey Barack
I question your love of this country. It was easy, and you said you would let no one do it. Ready, set, go. I question your love of this country.

a stupid opponent


As Voltaire once said:

"To God once I prayed: Make my enemies all imbeciles, Lord!

And He ANSWERED me!"

Here I am. Letting an imbecile rain his hate speech on me; a dope who can't shut up even when he falls on his face.

What Dave KNOWS about history is ZERO. What he claims about me is all LIES. He has only ONE useful fact with which to attack me now; all others are exhausted and dead. He attacks my age.

I'm elderly, therefore he thinks he's smarter than me. THE PUNK.

I do NOT "drool.""

I am FAR from "senile." I communicate with fair debating skills. AND, most important-- I know what I'm talking about. David doesn't.

My citizenship is great; AMERICAN !

His arguments are RACIST and false.

His language is racist and false.

He has no communication skills.

He's always ANGRY; since what I say to him is always TRUE.

This poor white supremacist (if not Nazi) came to me arguing and he'll leave me WHIPPED, because every time he posts, the world sees racist slurs; repeated against people who never did him harm. At this point he only continues blabbing because he's ASHAMED.

Ashamed because he can't overcome the truth!

.

dreadnaught, the problem I have
is that McCain justified his position on the basis that there is no way to round up all of the illegals, put them on buses, and remove them from the country. Ergo, they should get amnesty.
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My opposition to government levying any obligations on business is near universal. For this problem I am willing to make an exception. We need worker ID cards; if someone doesn't have the card then they don't work. Period. If law enforcement or immigration discover this crime the penalty must be severe to strongly discourage such behavior.
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It then seems to me that the illegals will self deport, which solves the problem. This is another indication to me that John McCain doesn't think through problems and their impacts very well.
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The fact that many of his solutions to vexing problems have government rather than conservative principles is troubling. McCain-Feingold is a good example of this idea. Money is speech as the court said. MF seeks to limit speech through government intervention, which as usual makes things worse instead of better. A conservative principle would say to keep government out of it, but ensure transparency in the system.
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McCain justified it all because money in politics is corrupting. How about taking the money out of politics by shrinking the size of government? That is a conservative idea. Don't like that one, how about punishing the criminals in Congress for misbehaving. No, McCain helped foist yet another government apparatus on the people.

It wasn't a request!
Obama was quoted as saying, "I will let no one question my love of this country."

So how does the author qualify this as a "request"? It sounds more like a comment from a child having a tantrum. A real man or woman would not even think that they were going to tell others what they could do. After all, Obama is interviewing for a JOB! He darned well better be able to answer the questions he doesn't like. In case he is unaware, the president is not the King!!! He works for us!

To Dave2 re 6:36 PM Aug 22 Post
How about writing something intelligent? What you wrote makes you the only "fool" and the only "joke."

John McCain can be properly called a pro-life fiscal oonservative because that is what his voting record shows. Let's get some other things straight: McCain served his country as a Navy combat aviator and P.O.W.; he is and has been a fiscal hawk and will cut Government spending; he is and has been right all along on Iraq and rightly insists on victory in Iraq; he is and has been and will be a hawk in foreign policy ("We Are All Georgians Now"), which is why the conservative foreign policy establishment endorsed him early, including former Secretaries fo State Schultz, Kissinger, Eagleburder and Haig; McCain he is committed to cutting the corporate tax rate to spur business; and he pledged to the Federalist Society in January 2007 and has continuously thereafter pledged that he will nominate strict constructionists to the U.S. Supreme Court. These are all positions of a conservative.

You may have diagreed with McCain on immigration, but if you had intelliegent reasons why, you would state them instead engaging in adolescent pseudo-mockery. McCain has said that he accepts the judgment of the American people that law enforcement must come first; and indeed he is very conversant on how the failing of the immigraiton bill signed by then President Reagan was that its law enforcement provisions were not subsequently enforced and how the intention of the law he proposed was that its law enforcement provisions would be enforced.

John McCain's life history is larger than anyone around. Do you have any kind of life?

Article Concerns Obama's "Patriotism"
The article above by the Browns is about Obama and his absurd insistence that he wonld not let anyone question his patriotism. Given what Obama has said and done, it is fair to question Obama's patriotism; and whatever he has, is tiny compared to John McCain's patriotism.

So how did so many posts in the thread go off on John McCain's position on immigration? Two possibilties: (1) lefty trolls are engaged in an operation confusion of their own; or (2) some so-called conservatives are obtuse to the virtues of McCain's candidacy and to the dangers of Obama's far left positions to the country.

The antidote to either possibiilty is to focus on the subject of the article.

the real test.
Ask yourself this question - You are in an alley confronted by several thugs.

Who do you think will fight for and with you ??

Let's see Barack Obama's Birth Cert.
I want Barack Obama to trot out his Real Birth Certificate For all the world to see. He claims to be a US Citizen Born in Hawaii.Why can't he show us a document with an Hawaiian State Seal stamped on it? There are too many ambiguities about this man.
HEY Barry! To lead our nation your whole life had better be an open book.Don't tell me what you won't listen to. Don't tell me I can't ask you questions. You are not the leader of the free world yet. And I hope you don't ever get to be. I don't like you. I think you're a Cheat and a Liar. I hope we find out you where born someplace else. Barry, You're just another affirmative action employee applicant, lying & cheating to get a job you can't possibly do.

"Stupid is ...." as Forrest Gump Said
Barack Obama declared, "I will let no one question my love of this country."

What a stupid remark!

Just how do you propose to do that, Barack Hussein Obama, aka Barry Sotero, suppress free speech, impose Shar'ia law on us, put out a fatwah - order of death against us, kill us the way Muslims have done in other countries?

Get real, lad, this is the United States of America.

O'Baloney won't let AMERICANS question
Well MR O'Baloney....
I have some questions for you...
I am an American and if you think it's not my right to question a potential POTUS then you aren't well versed in Constitutional Law.
As citizens of this great United States of America, the only thing we can't do is give you a religious test.
(probably a good thing for you!)

#1 Where's your birth certificate?

#2 Why do you think you're above scrutiny?

#3 Why do you think spending billions of dollars on poverty aid to non-Americans comes before balancing the budget and National Debt?

#4 Where did you go to school if you think there's 57 states?

#5 Why are you such an a**hole that you can't be bothered to put your hand over your heart and declare your love of this country during the National Anthem?

#6 Why do you think killing babies born ALIVE isn't MURDER?

#7 Why do you think caribou are more important than domestic security?

#8 Are you just that stupid or Pelosi's puppet?

#9 What make you think that Amad-nut case in Iran would keep his word when you met without pre-set conditions?

#10 When you lose this Nov. Will you move to Europe and embrace the socialism there and leave America to honest patriotic Americans?

BO STINKS
either under the arm or in politics.
(At least one can be washed away)

Barack Hussein Obama
A George Soros puppet. For the life of me I just can't understand why all the media thinks he is a great speaker. When I think of great speeches I think about Kennedys inaugural speech and Reagans "Tear down this wall" speech
(JFK love him or hate him that was a great speech)
Barack Hussein Obama is a babbling idiot

McCain 08

dreadnaught
you continue to prove you are a dottering old fool.

You avoided answering the questions.

You still can't justify why the taxpayers should foot the bill for all these illegals who steal across our b order and then steal our social services.

You seem totally untroubled by the high crime rates these illegal criminals cause and the high costs associated with dealing with these criminals

And you call me a racist because I want to see the laws of this country enforced.

Obviously you lack the intelligence to see that I support legal immigration. But that is the process you seem to totally overlook.

But you are the hater of america because you think our country isn't worth defending from these illegals invading this country.

Calling me a nazi only shows the limited mentality you possess. At no point have I ever called for anyone to be exterminated, to be tortured or any other type of heinous punsihment.

All I have stated is that the laws of this country need to be respected and the estimated number which varies between 12 million to possibly 30 million need to be sent home and get in line to come here legally

You obviously love and champion these illegal criminals. I want the law enforced. You want the laws over looked and these illegals given special treatment.

But you fail to justify why the taxpayers should continue to foot the bill.

Claiming you are a conserv is the most ludicrous statement you make. All you are is another lib with no regard for the laws and just another hispanic hiding behind your phony bravado claiming you love this country and obey it's laws.

I guess you learned how to call others expletives from your love of voltairs. But call me all the foul names you want, call me racist and nazi if that givers you pleasure but it points out how vapid your defense is and what a total failure you are.


Why are you talking about Illegals?
Please focus. If you want to spout off about illegal immigration then go to numbersusa.com and post there, or wait until the subject comes up here at T. H..Aaaaak!!!!

I believe the theme was Barry Dunham's love of country. Yes?

It seems Barry's first love is himself. I do not know how much love he has left to dole out on things like country.

bhurley
You couold well be right, and wouldn't that be a hoot? Its too early yet, though. JFK beat the Puritan fear of "Popists" after about 100 years of experience with the wave or Irish and Italian immigrants in the 1800s. At that rate, it will be at least 2060 before the current generations of non-black Americans who have actually personal experience with black folks from integrated schools and integrated workplaces are a majority. The problem is actually overcoming the Uncle Tom attitude of so many American blacks. Apparently they detest any black person to right of center, judging by the past. So there is 10 percent of the electorate that must be overcome. Black governors get elected in red states with low black percentage, in general.

Barama doesn't dare speak freely
His head is so full of Marxist/socialist/elitist dogma, if he doesn't insert all the uh's and ah's and halt his speech (off teleprompter), all the leftist drivel packed into his pea-brain will spill out and expose him for the dangerous creep he is.

I'm wouldn't vote for the chump if he was lily white and it's just a darn shame that the black community is tying themselves to this phony bozo, instead of a truly intelligent and freedom loving patriot no matter what their race or ethnicity.

I thought we were past all this black/white crap, unless of course, use of the race card helps dhimmicrats and smears repugs. When does the black community liberate itself from the liberal plantation? Not as long as they don't know the 10 point communist plan to take over the US that dhimmicrats have almost fully implemented - destroying families, controlling education and suppressing opposition, among them.

Despicable, disgusting, dangerous, disastrous, depression - that's what we'll see IF dhimmicrats rule the world.

Obamaniacs will come for your guns,
and freedom of speech.

Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.



- - - Harry S. Truman - - -

elko.mike
Outstanding post. Wish i could have written it myself.

Do as you say

Obama declares his wife off limits to
any attacks, but allows his surrogates to attack Cindy McCain.

Yet another act of a hypocrite.

Dreadnaught
Talk to any Emergency room nurse. They will tell you that illegal aliens must be aided and rarely pay. This financial burden is paid by legal citizens, or hospitals close.

Talk to any Peace Officer. They will confirm that illegal aliens are a hugely disproportion of criminals.

You are kidding yourself. You just look foolish shoveling against a torrent of facts.

It is hard
to question something (like Obama's love of this country) that doesn't exist.

What's he going to do?
"I will let no one question my love of this country."

Oh, yeah? What's he going to do, ship us off to a concentration camp?

Edna: Right On!
Exactly what I want to know too! "Won't let" anyone question his patriotism? (although it is, as Ron - PA, points out, difficult to that which CLEARLY doesn't exist!) I mean when did we turn into a totalitarian state - or is he giving us a glimpse at what his presidency would turn our country in to?

Obama lied – babies died
B.H.O. is no reformer – he’s a gangster-style, old school Chicago hack. B.H.O. is not “The One” – he is by calculative composition a champion of his master’s agenda (Unions, Planned Parenthood, and Mr. Soros et al). B.H.O. will change our capitalist country into one, big union shop run by the Democrats; bent towards the left so far that his socialist European friends will recognize him for the Communist at heart he really is.
I do not fear him; I loathe him for the holocaust of the Unborn (and in some cases the Born) he so adamantly supports. I do not think is name is funny; I think his name speaks defiantly of his family’s murderous, African-Muslim roots.
The more his candidacy is vetted, the more we learn about the puppet-masters behind the scrim of the burka. The G.O.P. will have enormous crossover votes because we love to win, believe our country is the best the world has ever seen, and mightily disapprove of American apologists. We will elect McCain because he actually will put the country first – and has the alarming record of cavorting with Democrats to prove it. John may not have led the perfect, conservative life but no one has, eh? McCain’s life is an open book and Obama’s is shrouded in mystery, deceit, and dope.
See you at the polls!

The first Presidential election where
The Democractic nominee has gone SO FAR out of his way to hide who he is, to hide what he believes from the American public.

Is he ashamed of what he believes that he has to hide it?

If so, shouldn't he question what he believes?

If he's hiding the truth of who he is from America, could it just be a calculated move to get himself elected. Could he be such a con artist and arrogant enough to think he can get away with it?

Bad judgment. Bad form. And an arrogance that appears to think Americans are so stupid he can get away with it.

He has flip-flopped on virtually every issue (depending on who he is talking too) with such ease as to suggest we will suck up anything he says.

I do not believe Americans are stupid. I believe his base consists of hate & blame America, far left liberals who have been programmed in College. I believe America will wise up to who he is, or will see who he is trying to not be during the election.

Either way, America will be much better off, when he leaves politics altogether and becomes Ambassador to the U.N. for Iran.


Priceless!
"Obama lied – babies died"

This is a jewel of a subject line! I wish I had a bumper sticker!

Obama Won't Let Us
What's he going to do?
"I will let no one question my love of this country."

Doesn't this remind you of the Michelle Obama quote about how Barack is not going to let us keep driving SUVs or keep our air conditioners set at 72? Hearing "won't let" once makes BHO seem arrogant. Hearing "won't let" twice makes me start to worry a little.

Be Very Scared...
if Obama is elected. America is already well on it's way to socialism thanks to liberals in congress and our universaties and on our courts. With Obama in the White House, the change will move forward all speed ahead. He is a Marxist who is bent on the destruction of this country. He calls America "the greatest country" and in his next breath insists that it must "change." McCain is not the perfect candidate for conservatives, but he does have a long record of love and honorable service to America.

This has to stop!
I have faith in my fellow countrymen that this lunatic will not be elected.

lc
you are of course right but i have been going around with this troll dreadnaught for a couple of days. Alas to you avail. He can't see the problem and denies it exists

the coming of the messiah
despite the glee the left is feeling today this is not a winning ticket.

It only proves that b hussein fully buys into the beltway mentality. But he was already the status quo politician pledging his loyalty to the unions, the fems, the trial lawyers and the teachers.

But he thinks that in biden he gets his attack dog. But all biden needs is some grease paint, a bulbous nose and a fright wig to complete his image as a clown.

Just as the messiah's words will be used against him, so will biden's. I don't know that in his 35 years in the senate presents him as a legislative giant.

But we do have his performances in the senate hearings to look at and his has always been a very partisan dim and rarely crosses the party voting line.

My guess would be is that the party elders told the messiah who his choice would be. Seeing his history of who he picks as advisers and mentors, b hussein has too many questions concerning his judgement


Illegal problem/ no problem
Dave...,perhaps if he had spent some time in Arizona, Sierra Vista to be exact, he would see that there is a problem. Ranchers finding prayer shawls on their properties, amongst the water bottles and other garbage in the morning,after an evening illegal crossing is , to me, an indication that something is amiss.

Sorry to all for going off topic and sticking in this aside to Dave.

Liberal patriotism? (pt 1)
"I will let no one question my love of this country."???

First of all, a candidate for the presidency of the USA should not, and can not, place areas of legitimate concern off-limits. Patriotism is certainly a pre-requisite for a President of the United states of America. Presumably, in an Obama administration, we will all be told what questions we will be permitted to ask. The right of a liberal not to be offended will be found lurking in some "penumbra" of the constitution. Frightening.

Second, when Obama, and liberals/socialists/whatever, talk about "country" and "patriotism", their vision of what America is as a country is wildly out of synch with what real Americans mean when they refer to America. To liberals/socialists, America is defined by her borders, and whatever happens within those borders, well, that's America. So the destruction of personal liberty that is the inevitable consequence of socialism is perfectly OK with them. It's still America, and by that definition, they are still patriotic Americans. Nonsense!

Liberal patriotism? (pt 2)
For real Americans, America is defined by the founding principles as represented in her founding documents ("Common Sense", The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution), and further defined by additional documents predicated on those (Washington's inaugurals and farewell addresses, Lincoln's inaugurals and the Gettysburg Address, etc.). America is the only nation in the history of mankind founded on a principle. That principle is the sanctity of personal liberty. The aforementioned documents define us as a nation. Inasmuch as socialism is anathema to liberty, anyone who advocates it is de facto anti-American, and can make no claim on patriotism. These folks are destoying our nation in the name of ant-capitalism. Which is further evidence of their anti-Americanism in light of the fact that capitalism (see "The Wealth of Nations") is the only economic system compatible with personal liberty.

L C
prayer shawls, maybe jewish. maybe cold.

No Patriot
I have been questioning B. Hussein's patriotism for about a year now, so have many others. It is pretty plain that he has no positive regard at all for this nation; he is no patriot. This is evident in his words and actions and those of his wife, his 'minister,' and his scurrilous friends. Furthermore, he is contemptuous of the citizens of this country. This puny little wind bag is pretty good at spouting commandments and he may profess to be the savior of the United States, however he has made one big mistake; he has begun believing his own propaganda. BHO is going to have a rough ride.

mrbmrb
other than be a blithering idiot troll and leftist is there anything that concerns you in any way about your messiah or have you accepted him as your savior, sent by god to be the leader who will save us from ourselves and bring about universal peace.

The dims tell us he is the anointed one. As you are in total denial that the left has any faults and that all problems are the fault of conservs.

But explain away your messiah's plan to tax and spend the economy to prosperity. Economists tell us this is an impossible thing to do but brother O thinks that stealing the profits from big oil will also allow him to give losers like you a $1000 gift to buy your vote.

Obama What You See?
With BHO what you see is not what you get. I live in Illinois and I have researched his voting records, both in the Illinois Senate and in the US Sebate and no where is he a "Reformer". In fact he is the opposite, he is like an illusionist, if you take your eyes off his hands, something else happens.
I am currently reading, "The Case Against BARACK OBAMA," and it is very telling, I suggest all the bloggers read it. You will see a man who is aruthless politician, although he preaches and speaks otherwise, a man with known Radical ties, see Bill Ayers, Rev Wright and others, and a man who is not experienced enough to handle our countries defense.
So what you See is not what you get!

I Question Obama's Patriotism
Patriotism is a love of one's country and a willingness to sacrifice because of that love. As a war hero McCain certainly meets that standard. What about Obama? Precisely when and where has he truly sacrificed for his country? His accomplishments are so thin that they do not demonstrate his patriotism. We therefore look elsewhere for an answer.

America is unique among the world in its crafting of a >written Constitution< that established a limited government. This written constitution, which is a contract between a government and its citizens, was America's unique contribution to civilization. The Founding Fathers clear instructions were to construct the Constitution strictly, according to the meaning of the words at the time it was written. Changing the meaning of the words in the Constitution through construction changes the contract between the government and its citizens. The Founding Fathers knew the harm construction could do and did not support a Constitution as “living document” idea. Jefferson wisely advised America to expand the powers of the government only through the process of Constitutional Amendment, for otherwise the power of the government over the people was unlimited.

Obama believes in none of this. He is a self professed citizen of the world. He opposes judges who construct the constitution properly. He will favor some citizens over others, clearly violating the intent of the Founding Fathers. He believes in expansive government; the Founding Fathers believed in limited government. A true patriot would uphold America’s founding ideals for which many have sacrificed so much. Obama will discard these ideals as he doesn't believe in the America left us by the Founding Fathers.

If he will not uphold the instructions in our written Constitution, he is not a patriot. Barack Obama I question your patriotism and love of the America left us by the Founding Fathers.

I think Obama is patriotic
but I also think his patriotism is different from that of most of us. He sees lots of sores and scabs he has to clean up and we see freedom and accomplishment stretching out behind and developing in the future. We are not oblivious to its flaws, but greatly value, individual freedom, rugged individualism, opportunity but not handouts.We respect the rich who have created wealth for themsevles and others by using the freedom and opportunity this country allows.

Obama is the candidate who answered a question from a seven year old who asked him why he was running for the presidency and to paraphrase, he answered to fix the sores and scabs he saw not for love of country.

In the speech at Saddleback regarding evil, he took time to obliquely critisize this country not terrorists or militants.. He talks about change but what most of us want to hear is change that involves love of country, optimism to be better then we are, faith in our ability to grow better and respect for how much this young country has done in so little time since its inception to become the place where immigrants want to come. His message is negative.

ONE QUESTION
"mr. b.H.obama, would you spill your own blood for your country, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?"

"AH, ah, ummm, well you know, umm, ah, ah, let me check with michele on that and i'll get right back to yous" "Hey, ah, michele, come on, ah, over here and umm, answer this ah, question sweetie".

"I heard the question, barack, and 'HELL NO' you wouldn't shed a drop of your blood for the likes of your 57 united states, thats for all those 'MEAN' americans several paygrades beaneath US!

Obama's Patriotism, worldview off limits
LOL it is QUITE clear why he (and the MSM) would want it off limits.
This is the patriot who:
1. held his hands in front of him during the Pledge..on stage.
2. Took the American flag off his 5 day tour
airplane, and put a big O on it. (Big oh, oh)
3. DNC fans cards have upside-down American flag on them. (To blend in with his suit?)
4. Went to Kenya, a Muslim country, ONE MONTH AFTER BEING ELECTED, BEFORE EVEN TAKING HIS SENATE SEAT. There, he criticized THEIR President, stood on a platform with Odinga, his opponent, which essentially was an endorsement.
I read that many people died after that..so much so that the President had to offer the opponent some sort of power sharing part. THAT
WAS REAL PATRIOTIC! (For America or Kenya?) (Is
Odinga of the same Kenyan tribal family as Obama's family?)
5. He is SO patriotic, that when the Senate investigated McCain's birth eligibility to be
President (and passed it), B. HUSSEIN OBAMA got a pass. He wasn't investigated and in the
manner of fairness, he didn't come forth with the offer to have HIS investigated also.
6. To date, as much as I have researched, I have found NO ONE..NO AGENCY..who has EVER seen his Birth Certificate. The ONLY thing I've seen is a facsimilie of a Certificate of Live Birth,and THAT won't hack it. I doubt it would even get him a passport. WHY HAS HE CONTINUALLY REFUSED TO BRING IT FORTH FOR
EXAMINATION FOR ITS VALIDITY? For me, that raises king-sized red flags all over the place. It should be MANDATORY for every elected or appointed government official.
7. He is so patriotic he stayed 20 years under a preacher who said, "God damn America."
8. He's so patriotic, he SPONSORED S-2433, a budgt-breaking Bill ($845 Billon, 7% GNP) which can risk some of OUR rights, as it will makes us compliant to things already in the UN that the US has never ratitied! Yeah, USA first and foremost?
I think the Presidency is also way above his pay grade.


Carolyn

Great post!

Me BMRB
Mea culpa...,I meant prayer RUGS!

liberal patriotism
isn't that an oxymoron

elko.mike Reply #55
You have put my thoughts to words better than I could! And you, too, carolyn, #58!

EVERY American SHOULD question Barack Obama's patriotism!!! He has given us thousands of reasons why we should!

VOTE FOR EVERY CONSERVATIVE RUNNING FOR OFFICE THIS NOVEMBER!

President Obama
Here is the truth about Barack Obama. He was born and raised in a Muslim household. His mother was an atheist who held America in contempt and was part of the anti-American itellectual crowd. Barack after being given his degree from Harvard because of affirmative action went to work for extreme anti-American left wing organizations in Chicago with the help of Bill Ayres. Obama found a church where he could front himself off as being a Christian but with beliefs closer to the Nation of Islam. He spent 20 years learning about Black Liberation Theology, an anti-American, racist doctrine based on the eventual overthrow of the White Government by disenfranchised angry Black men. The foolish democrats want power so much are going to give this man enough authority to start a racial civil war if elected with the help of the Nation of Islam and with Islamic Terrorists from the Middle East. One of the first actions of President Obama will be to confiscate all guns from law abiding citizens. Of course he will have already raised taxes so high as to strip the wealth from the White owned institutions and have it controlled by the government. Once completed it will be open season for a well armed Muslim Militia to enter the US through Mexico and start the attempted take over of the US. If Iran obtains nuclear weapons then Obama will give them a green light to use the weapons unless the cities turn in their weapons. If Obama is elected it will be the end of the United States regardless of whether his revolution is successful or not.

Obama's Declarations
The day may come when Barack Hussein Obama is in a position to make declarations of what we can or cannot say. That day has not yet come.

I saw some of his speech in Illinois today. He started off sounding like he thought he was the long awaited Messiah. Really. The crowd cheered and screamed. I did not hear Gabriel's trumpet,so I knew he was mistaken.

He has been petted,pampered and primed for this annointing for years by the communist party and other subversives inside and outside this country.

It is clear somewhere along the way ,he started believing this hype. He could use a great big dose of reality right about now.


Mr. Obama
I won't use Senator, he hasn't earned it.

He exclaims "I will let no one question my love of this country." I know he is using hyperbole in this declaration, but what has he done to prove his love for this country?

That's my only question. He has yet to prove his love for our nation.
From all I've seen, he (and his wife) have nothing but contemt for us.
We all are simply un-educated, Bible thumping, "clingy" rednecks, waiting for the second coming, and he believes he is it.
Liberals (not leftists), is this what you want?


Quotes of Note
From Barry, THE FALSE OBAMASSIAH -

"As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,"

"There are a lot of people in the world to whom THE AMERICAN FLAG IS A SYMBOL OF OPPRESSION. And the anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting
in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I MIGHT SALUTE IT."

In January, he told Dartmouth students that they will know to vote for him because "... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack."

When asked in an interview what sin is, Obama defined it as
"Being out of alignment with my values."
(Jonah Golberg TH - 6/6/08)

From Michelle, THE WOULD-BE FIRST LADY -

"For the first time in my adult lifetime, I'm really proud of my country."

(From the New Yorker)
Obama begins with a broad assessment of life in America in 2008, and life is not good:

"we’re a divided country, we’re A COUNTRY THT IS JUST DOWNRIGHT MEAN, we are guided by fear, we’re A NATION OF CYBICS, SLOTHS AND COMPLACENTS."

"Barack Obama is the only person in this race who understands that, that before we can work on the problems we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation."

"Barack is one of the smartest men we will see in our lifetime."

W/O=

Typo
That was supposed to be -

"A NATION OF CYNICS, SLOTHS AND COMPLACENTS."

THE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PLAN
THE BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA PLAN

In the beginning was the Obama Plan (Change We Can Believe In!). And then came the Obama Assumptions. And the Obama Assumptions were without form. And the Obama Plan was without substance. And darkness fell upon the face of the Voters.

And the Voters spoke amongst themselves, saying, “This is a crock of you know what, and it stinks.” And the Voters went unto their Party Supervisors and said, “It is a pail of dung, and we can't live with the smell.”

And the Party Supervisors went unto their Party Managers, saying, “It is a container of excrement, and it is very strong, such that none may abide by it.” And the Party Managers went unto their Party Directors, saying, “It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide its’ strength.”

And the Party Directors spoke amongst themselves, saying to one another, “It contains that which aids Plant growth; and it is very strong.” And the Party Directors went to Joe Biden, saying unto him, “It promotes growth and it is very powerful.”

And Joe Biden went to Barack Obama, saying unto him, “This new Plan will actively promote the growth and vigor of the Nation with very powerful effects.”

And Barack Obama looked upon the Plan and saw that it was good.

And the Plan became Policy.

And that, my friends, is how; “you know what” happens.



CAROLYN
(Is Odinga of the same Kenyan tribal family as Obama's family?)

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/kenya-connection/69273/

NO QUESTIONS ALLOWED ABOUT PATRIOTISM?
OK

How about some questions about Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, Rev Wright, Saul Alinsky, Tony Rezko, Raila Odinga, Frank Davis, Dick "Gitmo" Durbin and those Marxist professors he sought out in "Dreams of My Father?"

Would these be permissable?

permissible
Sorry about the misspelling.

"I have not the time to be brief." - Samuel Johnson

Labor Day With Family & Friends
This Labor Day would be a great time to talk to family and friends about socialism and the detriment to our standard of living. Talk about Obama's unmerciful position on children who survive abortions. Tell them about Obama's plans of taxing everyone into an equality of misery out of "fairness." Seek out the young adults in your families; find out if they are Obamabots and need to be rescued from the cult. Obama's campaign is preying on the young and uninformed; we need to get the word out so that everyone knows the truth by November. Labor Day Weekend would be well-spent laboring for our continued freedom.

Neal: Great post!!! (#68)
And NoBama spew fecal matter from his mouth and he saw that it was "good" and his lemmings ate it up like he, their Messiah, knew they would.

That's the history of the Marxist-DimoRAT Party. Tell them, the lemmings, crap and they'll eat it up like manna from Hell because that's where it is coming from.

Obama
Same old hyperpartisan B.S. from these two predictable clowns. Will someone please clue them in to the fact that people are sick and tired of their phony "culture war"? People who disagree with the right wing of the Republican Party are not automatically traitors or unpatriotic. That nonsense got us into the mess we're in today, and it won't get us out. Go climb back under you rock.
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