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Wednesday, September 26, 2007
Dr. Matthew Ladner :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Silent Crisis of American Higher Education
by Dr. Matthew Ladner
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Few Yale seniors, it turns out, know which American President created the New Deal. Even fewer would know which one said, "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be." It was Thomas Jefferson, and he and the other founders recognized that our system of ordered liberty would endure only if its citizens understood the nation's guiding principles.

The endurance of American democracy depends upon a broad knowledge of the nation’s history and an understanding of our institutions. Unfortunately, a lack of civic literacy abounds at the k-12 and university levels.

The National Center for Education Statistics administered a grade-level appropriate civics exam to a nationally representative sample of fourth, eighth, and twelfth graders in 2006. The percentage of students "demonstrating solid competency over the subject matter" was 25 percent of fourth graders, 24 percent of eighth graders, and 32 percent of twelfth graders.

The percentage of students scoring below even partial mastery of the material was 27 percent, 30 percent and 34 percent respectively. At every grade level tested, more students failed the exam than demonstrated a solid mastery.

Cue the predictable response: we all know that our k-12 schools under-perform, but luckily, we make up for it with the best system of higher education in the world. Well, not so much these days.

The Intercollegiate Studies Institute recently released The Coming Crisis in Citizenship: Higher Education's Failure to Teach America's History and Institutions. The study surveyed 14,000 randomly selected college freshmen and seniors at 50 colleges and universities to measure their knowledge of four subjects: American history; government; America and the world; and the market economy.

The researchers found unsettling results. The average score, had the survey been an exam, was an F, with only 53 percent of items answered correctly. Worse still, there was little evidence of students having gained any knowledge on these subjects, as the seniors outscored the freshmen by only 1.5 percent. At many of the universities, including elite institutions such as Brown, Georgetown, and Yale, seniors knew less about these subjects than the freshmen. The researchers dubbed this phenomenon "negative learning gains."

Sadly, the news gets worse.

The American Institutes for Research (AIR) recently assessed the literacy of 1,800 graduating seniors from 80 randomly selected two- and four-year colleges and universities. What they found was not pretty.

Twenty percent of U.S. college students completing four-year degrees have only what the researchers describe as basic quantitative literacy skills, meaning they are unable to estimate if their car has enough gas to get to the next gas station or calculate the total cost of ordering office supplies. The study also finds that more than 50 percent of students at four-year colleges have only the most basic literacy skills, meaning they can't do a basic task like summarize the arguments in a newspaper editorial.

The implications of these reports are profound. Universities nationwide have been asking for increased taxpayer subsidies and tuition for decades without anyone seriously questioning their return on investment.

Universities make outlandish claims about spurring economic development and leading the way to a new knowledge economy. Yet somehow in the process, they stopped teaching their students basic civics, or apparently, requiring them to know how to read.

American universities suffer from a deadly combination of an almost complete lack of transparency, massive indirect government subsidies, and inelastic demand. Higher education costs have raced ahead of even health care inflation without any evidence that students are learning more today than they did in the past.

A wise man recently told me that every system is perfectly designed to produce the results it achieves. The higher education system produces a surprisingly high number of semi-literate graduates who know little about their history and government.

A serious reappraisal of higher education policy is long overdue, both at the state and federal levels.

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Dr. Matthew Ladner is vice president of research for the Goldwater Institute and an expert on educational reform and school choice. Dr. Ladner holds a Ph.D. from the University of Houston.
 
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I'm sorry but
it's really not that hard to teach kids basic fundamentals such as reading, math, science, history and spelling, yet too many of our students cannot seem to grasp it. For this large a failure, there has to be a concerted effort to accomplish such a feat. Although there are many causes, government overseeing education and the education lobby which panders to it have turned it into what it is (on purpose).

I too weep
Thanks to Rock Strongo for an excellent post. I too weep for the future, considering the abysmal condition and Marxist ideology of today's curricula. I'd be willing to bet that the average 5th-grader of 50 years ago was more knowledgeable and more capable of logical reasoning than the average college student today.

A big problem everyone is missing...
The mess in US higher education isn't all due to politics. (I have two brothers who teach engineering at universities, so I know this to be true.) One of the reason illiterates and incompetents get passed through is because every student represents money to the university and a job to every professor. If a professor flunks out students, a university has fewer students and NEEDS FEWER TEACHERS. There is a LOT of pressure on professors to keep students in the school -- to keep the income up and the teaching jobs secure.

Obviously, places such as Hahv'd and Yale don't have to worry about keeping student numbers up; their problems are basically political, as most of the posters here have been remarking. But for many universities, simply keeping students and their money inside the doors is the paramount reason that they pass through the ignorant.

(sigh)
"Iran has threatened to wipe Israel off the map."

Supporting organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah, which HAVE a stated goal of destroying Israel, doesn't exactly make Iran "moderate", does it?

"Iran has a nuclear weapons program."

Well, Iran does have a ballistic missile development program.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iran/missile/overview.html
The taepo-dong and shahab missile series have around a 1000 kilogram payload. That is an awful lot of money to spend on R&D if you are just going to put a plain old high explosive warhead like a SCUD on there. Very expensive for an explosion no bigger than what an airplane can drop. A nuclear warhead would justify this kind of money expenditure.

"We were winning in Nam, but dem pesky libruls stabbed our fighting men in the back."

We soundly defeated the Viet Cong in the Tet Offensive, killing about 50,000 of them. The VC failed to win the "hearts and minds" of the South Vietnamese, mainly because of war crimes like at Hue. We won the guerrilla war in Vietnam. So in 1972 the communists tried a conventional invasion. ARVN forces with American air support sent them packing with heavy losses. Note, this was ARVN ground forces.

Emboldened by Watergate, the Democrats in Congress forbade logistical support and air support. The next series of attacks in 1976 succeeded. While we refused to support the South, Russia and China continued to support the North.

You didn't stab GIs in the back, just a few million South East asians.

It's worse than you think
I'm a 40 year old degreed professional who has returned to a reputable midwestern university in pursuit of an education degree, and I simply can not overstate how far things have fallen in just the past 20 years.

My classmates are a bunch of semi-literate dimwits who can barely string together a coherent thought, and yet they are so hopped-up on self-esteem that they don't even realize how ignorant they are.

Grade inflation is so rampant and standards so low that I actually had an economics class in which 76% of the students got an "A" and the rest got a "B" even though the bulk of them clearly didn't know sheep #%&$ from apple butter, let alone Pareto optimality from Kanye West.

My education courses are the worst. The professors don't even attempt to hide their leftism, bloviating about the horrors of merit-based pay, the sanctity of multiculturalism and the coming global flood, while the little lemmings lap it up. And why wouldn't they? They've been marinating up to their pierced eyebrows in this bunk since kindergarten.

The academy, once committed to the "disinterested pursuit of knowledge," has become little more than a factory for spitting out Marxist automotons.

I weep for the future.

correction:
"While" has an "h"; "wile" is a cunning ability to deceive.

Sorry about that. I too am not immune to proofreading errors.

You all have proven Mt Ladner right
From the top I encountered many examples of the problem this article articulates.

1. Gabby: Thanks to Bush, mostly the democrats, and ruthless corporations.

I doubt you mean this as you wrote it as it contradicts your premise.

2. Profblog: The two core composition classes required at my university is ...

Which is it, two or singular?

3. yussung: Wile I agree that their are serious problems ...

While has an "h"; while is a cunning ability to deceive. "Their" is the plural possessive if it. The word you want is "there:

There are more but I got tired of reading nonsense.

The schools had problems long before Mr Bush became president. In case Gabby is unaware of how that works he has been president only since January 20th, 2001. The schools were already bad in some parts of the country in the 70's, when education was in the hands of the states. Federalizing it only spread the problems to the states where the schools were still good.

The real solution is for parents to begin to give a rip for their children's futures. Only they can make sure they get a good education. But they will get no help from the schools, or the media, or from the politicians of either party. Bank on it.

we should not be surprised
why do we have fewer and fewer hard science, math and medical types coming out of school? because those jobs do not pay as well as they did back in previous generations. engineers and truck drivers mack comparable money. mathematicians get paid even worse. so why bother! computer programming jobs are going to india. you can make a living, but not get ahead. your salary/compensation package resembles that of a assembly line worker at Ford. so why put in the time?

Nothing wrong with driving a truck OR working on the line, but, are these skills as valuable as that of an electrical engineer, or computer programmer?

Who gets the money. The guys in financial markets running the 401K's. The suckers (thats the rest of us) give these characters a cut of our money to manage it. What a hoot.

who makes the money?

John Taylor Gatto
Gatto has been saying for years that our education system is producing exactly what it was designed to produce: Mind numbed robots who know enough to work and make money to buy more than they can afford and die broke.
Read his book "An Underground History of American Education" if you want to know why NCLB is the logical absurdity of the system that Andrew Carnegie and John D. Rockefeller bought and paid for at the turn of the 20th century.

Get your children out of the government run schools or lose their minds. Yendis

Higher ed etc.
Affirmative action, quotas, political correctness are now the fundamental areas emphasized in education from kindergarten through college. In addition, the student pool is going rapidly down hill, in short the wrong people are having the children who become the students. One parent families with 6 or 7 kids versus two parent families with one or two kids, total this up over a period of years and you have a downward spiral. Please don't give me the old "quality time is more important than quantity of time" argument, raise your own kids, don't expect government and a "nursery school" to educate your kids.

straight f s
From the Goldwalter Institute

"It describes itself as "an independent, nonpartisan research and educational organization dedicated to the study of public policy in Arizona," and it is devoted to the principles championed by the late Senator Barry Goldwater such as "individual rights, economic freedom, and a government of strictly limited powers."

Now, if one wanted to list a total failure rate of stated goals!

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The Intercollegiate Studies Institute is such a biased organization with a clear agenda that one shouldn't take seriously any study they barf up. The really big crises our nation faces is all the socially inept and shoddy test driven home schoolers.

lilly
Still posting lies and dribble. You are the poster child of what is wrong with education in general let alone higher education.

For the non-informed
Apeil 14, both Reuters and the AP reported that Iran's pres. said Israel "will be annihilated."

As to knowledge of history, it isn't up to Yale to teach Am. hist. Many coll. degree programs do not call for any hist. credits.

But it is on the intermediate school and high school levels that teaching facts has disppeared in the pub. schools.

History dept's are now social studies, and it covers everything from actual civics classes to psychology and sociology courses.

In the 70s, most hist. courses left teaching actual narratives of histories with facts and people's names and events (boring) for "issues education," which fits better with lib. whining:

topics include discrimination against the beknighted groups,
complaints about Am. transgresions and for not being a perfect country in the eyes of the left,

and multicultural drivel that equates South Pacific tribal traditions with the literature of Western Europe.

Students not only do not know who Betsy Ross and Ben Franklin are they also don't know who Thomas Jefferson and John Adams are. They haven't heard of "give me liberty or give me death." They cannot tell you when either the Rev. or Civil Wars occurred. They haven't heard of the Louisiana Purchase, Lewis and Clark, or Audubon.

They know that slavery was very bad, Ams. killed all the Indians, women have never been able to work at careers or lead gov't's (have not heard of Elizabeth I, Golda Meir, Indira Gandhi--they've never heard of Mahatma Gandhi and may not know where India is), and that Am. was aliied with Ger. in either the First or Second World Wars, but not sure which.

I teach college freshman and there is not enough space on TH to enumerate what was once common knowledge about which my students have no recognition or memory.

The Poor State of Education
like so many of the challenges facing our nation, has been caused by the lack of leadership. Our federal government has taken away the responsibilities of the states with the old standby promise of more federal dollars.

Since the two parties care only about power and not the nation, they engage in partisanship and provide no leadership. The GOP is as guilty as the DEMs, and President Bush, partnering with Ted Kennedy, grabbed more federal control for the Dept. of Education, which I promise in my Campaign Platform to abolish.

A President must LEAD and that means he must communicate on a regular basis with the people, something else I will do. Our citizens must step up to their responsibility to be actively involved at the local level, and that cannot happen without restoring to the states the authority they need, another situation I am committed to turning around.

Please check out my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG for some real ideas about education and how we can reclaim our inheritance whenever we are ready to do so. Thanks, Joe

Wait and See
We're being crushed as the young and hungary nations, much like our own immigrants, come into this world determined to have more. China produces 5 engineers for each one of ours, and India produces 3. Technology has already left the US - wholesale. Manufacturing is gone. We are in a state of decline. We feed off the energy of other nations - and as long as we're useful to them - they'll buy our debt and prop us up. When then have everything they want and need - they'll discard us.

I'm a firm believer that the lessons of history will apply here. Many knew the crash of 29 was coming - but the system in place ignored it - until after it happened. Churchill and friends knew what Hitler was - and what he would do - but the feel good crowd ignored that as well.

This country will not re-invent itself until the system we have runs off the track.

Productivity, hard work, education - those are the cornerstones of what our ancestors gave to us. Now, we live off that inheritance - and are using it up. Soon, it will be gone. Then, we'll have to go back to competing with hard work, productivity, and education.

Forget this 8 hour a day stuff. Forget the idea that students can get "passed through school", forget the idea that the government can bail everyone out. We're not entitled to anything. But we certainly believe it. Have no illusions - today we're competing with the poor of the world pouring into the cities who will work the hours in the shop - and go home and work more hours to educate themselves.

When the entitlements are gone - and the money spent - then watch what happens.


What Do We Expect?
This is the result of 40-plus years' influence of Marxism in academia.

The overwhelming majority of professors are liberal. They produce successive generations of educators, who tend to share the same liberal worldview. That worldview is shaped, informed, influenced by Marxism.

It is in their interest to politicize students, to teach them what to think, rather than how to think.

And so, they have systematically eliminated what we used to call Civics from the curriculum, along with US History taught as facts, replacing it with history based on the approved victim groups that these Marxist worship as oppressed-women, minorities, gays.

It is no wonder that our students don't know much about history. They know precious little about anything, and don't know how to think.

This is what the Sixties generation, the Baby Boomers, have wrought.

Dennis Prager is right to call them The Stupidest Generation.

How the generation the defeated the Germans and the Japanese produced these people never ceases to amaze me.

Hillary delenda est. (I guarantee you that no kid coming out of a four-year college today even knows what that allusion means.)

Rob
Where do you work?
The unions probably have NO SAY in what the
agenda of a building meeting is.
(Or by teacher meeting do you mean just teachers
meeting? Because that would be different. But
how many times a year is that? In districts I've
been in that is only the first day and it is for
union issues. And yes, the union issues are what union issues always have been and should be -
pay, benefits, and working conditions)

I have never had a building meeting where
improving the teacher's lounge was an agenda
item. Actually, come to think of it I have never
seen a teacher's lounge improved.






Lily bemoans possible loss
She is worried that we might stop producing "sociologists or cellists". I would worry about the dearth of cellists because it is a beautiful instrument that takes years of dedication to play well,and there are many beautiful and evocative pieces of music written for cello. However, sociologists are a waste of time and losing them would actually represent a gain in collective American IQ. Google sociologists and see how many Marxist sites pop up.

Warren Small
Your list of misapprehensions is valid.

Have a cigar!

I might quibble slightly with #2, and #3. I think at one time Saddam did have a nuclear weapons program, but it was later abandoned(YEARS before our invasion).

And I honestly don't know if Ahmadinejad or other Iranian leaders ever publicly stated that Israel should be wiped off the map. I thought they had. But so what. Most of the muslim world sees Israel, and our uncritical support of the Jewish state, as extremely one-sided and unfair. Most muslims would not find such a comment about Israel to be offensive anyway.

We allow the Israelis far too much influence on our foreign policy(although I believe Israel has as much right to exist as any other nation).

But I don't worship Israel, as some misguided Christian evangelicals do; nor do I believe our foreign policy should be predicated upon what benefits Israel(as most neocons believe).

I am old-school. Our foreign policy should be in furtherance of U.S. interests.

Gabby and Wacky Hermit
Gabby, believe me, I am NOT a fan of President Bush, nor of congress.

But whose fault is it that over 70% of students in U.S. university graduate schools in the hard sciences and engineering are "foreigners"?

Meantime, U.S. students flock to law schools, or to earn MBA degrees.

The future is promised to no one.

If we lose our technological edge, our innovation, it will result in a lowering of our standard of living, and eventually place our nation at peril from those nations who value engineers, researchers and scientists.

But not to worry!

While we may become second-rate in technology and science, our law grads can sue the pants off any foreign competitor who introduces a superior product to compete with our domestic brand, and our MBA grads can conjure up ever more clever business models and schemes.

I agree with Ladner. We will eventually lose our sense of what it means to be an American if we graduate students who are so ignorant of our past.

Courses on American history, influence of western and other civilizations on world history and human development, geography, as well as English(plus a foreign language), plus a strong curricula in mathematics(including advanced)and the hard sciences, should all be part of the educational process.

Wacky Hermit, I agree. It is incomprehensible to me that so many math teachers in highschools don't have backgrounds in mathematics. They are english majors, or sociology majors. That is criminal.

Some misunderstanding of higher Ed
Wile I agree that their are serious problems in higher ed at this time, there a few misconceptions here. If a student is lacks literacy or (quantitative or verbal) when entering a 4 year college, then that student will lack those skills when leaving. 4-year colleges are designed around the assumption that basic skills are already in place before the students arrive. Professors are neither trained nor interested in teaching these skills, which are the responsibility of K-12 teachers. No matter how good a college is, it will fail at tasks it is not designed to perform.

The reason that students with no skills can pass through college is that professors are heavily pressured to produce high levels of "retention" regardless of any other considerations. Pay and even tenure depend upon this. Students, who may be ignorant but are not stupid, are well aware of retention policies and know that professors need to pass them even if they put no effort into their class work.

My former students
would tell you that there wasn't as much history to study or remember back in the 40s! HA! I retired 20 years ago, so just think how much more history there is now. Well, give them credit for a kind of logic.

I wouldn't agree that most teachers don't see their students as the primary focus of education. I would agree that the teacher's union leaders are focused on economics and politics rather than education.

teachers' responsibility
Two weeks ago my mother and I were visiting Orchard House, where Louisa May Alcott and her family lived while she wrote "Little Women." Two Massachusetts teachers were on the tour with us, and my jaw about hit the floor when they kept asking questions like "Why do you keep saying her sister's name was May when she's Amy in the book?" or "You mean it's not real?" They both really thought the novel was an exact retelling of Ms. Alcott's life. Amazing. I can only hope they're not English teachers.


Gabby
My PMS....it's Bush's fault

OR

It's all Bush's fault....

TAke your pick you silly little girl, and I'll send you the bumper sticker. Try to WRITE and THINK more like Lilly instead of the usual finger pointing you liberals LOVE to do...

Oh yeah - don't forget to support VOUCHERS (School choice).

Stop being so angry.













Math is gone
I know this survey didn't really take a look at math education, but let me assure you it's mostly gone. I teach math in college. Remedial math classes have become so commonplace that they're no longer being considered remedial anymore. That unpleasant development notwithstanding, the community college where I teach still has so many levels of remedial math classes that you could literally spend years relearning everything from elementary school on up at their institution.

Why is all this necessary? At the secondary level, something on the order of 50% of math classes are being taught "out of subject," that is by a teacher without a major, minor, or endorsement in mathematics-- in short by someone whose last math class was probably just one course past their own high school math, which for them was likely a subject that they barely passed. Peer tutors have higher requirements-- often they have to get a B or better in the class for which they're tutoring. So where are we going to find enough math teachers for the secondary level? We can't. I did a back-of-the-envelope estimate and even if we drafted every new domestic college graduate with a math major straight out of college to teach math in high schools, we could not meet the demand for math teachers.

Math in this country is through. Students cannot be taught what their teachers don't know. It pains me so much to watch the decline that soon I hope to quit math teaching and go into business.

best article yet
This is the best article yet on this subject.

Much better than all the previous TH articles
which can be found here:

http://www.ednews.org/community/showthread.php?t=79

This site also shows that this is nothing new.

There was never a class or a grade acing these
tests. EVER!

State of Education - STINKS
I completely agree with Gabby. What incentive is there to become anything (except to feel good about yourself), when the trend is clearly being set for our Government to provide you with everything you need...welfare, healthcare, housing and social security.

I have been mulling over sending my daughters to community colleges instead of through a four-year program at a university.

First, what is the point of either spending tons of cash or becoming indebted in college loans, when there is no hope of securing a job or pursuing a career that will provide an income to be worth the investment? Or to even hope to pay off the loans in your lifetime?

Let's face it folks, the "service industry" just doesn't provide high paying jobs. (Hear that you rat fink members of congress and corporation owners who allow our jobs to disappear?)

Four-year college catalogues are full of useless and meaningless classes. Why should I pay an extra $20,000 for two years of extra classes that involve the study of the female orgasm or reviewing the social impact of teen movies? Who needs U.S. History, when it's more important that you take that "I'm OK, You're OK" class?

A two year college curriculum gives you the classes you need..no bullcrap. Then you're out in the workforce with skills....yes, expecting a lower salary at first but ACTUALLY skilled and ready to go AND move up the ladder.



Columbia
How sad it is, that some have chosen to take this occasion,to review "US" educational systems.Columbia is not the reason little Johnny can't read.It is his parents fault.Why? Because for the last 40 years in America,people have failed to understand a changing educational environment.However, parents are not alone,teachers too must bare responsibility.Teachers were in a position to demand that education be changed and failed.Can a Professor stop a Physician from operating on his patient?NO!WHY?The Physician is the "EXPERT" and is the most qualified given his educational background and legal standing.Education is not a different scenario,therein the "LOGIC" should be the same.At the end of the day,those who know the truth,know why "US" are still using a model from the Industrial age.The economics which dictates the future of education is known by "FEW" and embraced by even "FEWER".A collapsing economy cannot embrace the changes needed in education.Columbia didn't cause this "Fiasco" and therefore should not be BLAMED!The timing of your article,Dr.Ladner,allows the unsophisticated to assume, that Columbia epitomizes this lack of understanding referenced in your article.NOT SO...

If you are ignorant
there are two excellent games still available that Mama and Daddy bought for us in the Fifties. One is called Game of the States, which teaches kids to recognize and name each state, its capital, principal products and important historical events that took place there. It also teaches the kid to locate that state on a map.

The other is called Go To The Head Of The Class, which is a game played in a similar fashion to Trivial Pursuit, but the questions are based on the school curriculum of the 1940s.

An easy and painless way to upgrade both your own knowledge and that of your kids.

Personally I would bring back Schoolhouse Rock and play them every time an ad for erectile dysfunction is run. I predict that within six months the level of general knowledge would already have begun to rise significantly.

learn what?
Matbe the teachers should be asking children what they think about during a school day.
They might answer, a rock "star or a computer game or maybe where i'm going to hang out after school.
There is much for children on tv, but very little at "home".

Really complex
The two core composition classes required at my university is a result of paring down from the three core composition classes which used to be required, which was pared down from the additional Junior level, advanced composition class that was required. And, most professors of other departments lament, "why doesn't the English Department teach them to write?" Meanwhile, the Education Department is churning out classes for future teachers to help them with classroom management because no one can say "boo" to an under-achieving student for fear of hurting their self-esteem and being slapped with a lawsuit. Both parents work and the stupid TV and video games are the new "teachers." My honors students never quote a book as a source anymore, it's always a movie. Teachers are now "facilitators" of "learners," (PC for "students." And symposium speakers debate whether a teacher really should "teach" rather than be a "coach" of the self-motivated "learner." Sound confusing? As one poster above noted, America if farming out many of its high level jobs. Well, increasingly, finding top American graduate students in science, math, and physics is not easy. Why? Lack of real, gnawing, driving, desire. People in the world are clamoring for what we have and are willing to study and work really hard, while John plays "Halo 3." So, have a beer and watch it all happen, because, speaking as an ex-Navy man, it takes awhile to turn a ship around, and this "Ship of State" has been steaming in the same direction a good while now.

Lilly!!
You actually can make sense!

Taking Responsibility
Opportunities for learning in today's world are unparalleled. The Internet. Simulator technology. Inexpensive air travel. Museums galore.

Traditional schooling is great, but not necessary for learning. Anyone who is interested can learn anything worth knowing for themselves.

We need to re-think our entire model for formal education. Money isn't a panacea. Nor is additional government intrusion. More choices and a truly free market in public education would go a long way towards fixing what ails our system.

The problem is not college
It's the primary school through high school education.

if you read 8th grade graduating exams from the 1890s, they were HARD. the kids had to know a LOT, not just basic math and history, but they had to do difficult calculations, cite details about American history, geography, etc.

When children are young, their minds are like sponges. If we focused on pushing kids to their full potential when they are young, instead of trying to "democratize" primary school learning so that everyone is being taught the lowest common denominator, and if we really focused on the basics, we'd be in much better shape.

for most jobs, a truly educated high school grad could do the job, but we've created the need for college by dumbing down the earlier years.

Solutions?
So what solution is proposed? 1) Newt Gingrich hosted a FOX Sunday evening special several months ago on which he suggested not sending one's kids to college at all (liberal professors, high expense etc). Instead, he says to invest the tuition money when the kid is born then when he is 30 he can open a business and won't need to go to college. That's one solution. 2) A townhall poster recently suggesting defunding all higher education, which he saw as unnecessary. That's another solution. Might lead to a shortage of sociologists and cellists but, hey, who cares? 3) Bring back Civics to junior and senior high school and make it a non-elective in college. This won't be popular with the engineering students, but it is another solution. 4) Require local and national news programs to devote 100% of coverage to civic, political, and military news with demerits for anyone who even mentions a movie star or a missing child. Maybe after a generation of this, pop culture would become less important---but we'd have to be willing to plug our ears against the cries of "Bo-ring" and "Life is supposed to be fun".

Since I have watched Jay Leno's Jaywalkers, I hesitate to come too quickly to the defense of college students. But I suspect that part of the problem is specialization. History majors probably do know who FDR was. Computer Science majors may not, but the historians will need them to set up programs and de-virus the hardware, so let's not shoot them all just yet. I once quoted Paracelsus to a physician and he didn't know what I was talking about---but he knew what to do for my strep throat.

Dr. Ladner, Good grief!
Oh please.

"A serious reappraisal of higher education policy is long overdue, both at the state and federal levels."

Yes, let's convene a focus group and discuss it some more, why don't we?

No. How about we burn down the Department of Education and disband the NEA and tar and feather a few public school administrators while we're at it?

Talk is all you guys ever do while each new generation gets sold down the river.


Gabby
You prove the author's point with your typical nonobjective stuck in the mud blame Bush post.


Ridiculous!

Even At TH,
unfortunately this will probably be the least commented thread in the next 30 hours.

I can only pray that this dangerous trend slowly reverses itself in the coming years. I am one who rarely believes in conspiracy theories, but the seeds of our Republic's demise have been sown with amazing accuracy. I don't believe it's a vast left wing or socialist conspiracy that has made the illiteracy of the function of our Republic so prevasive, just apathy on the part of citizens

get your priorities straight
Who has time for history, math, economics, constitutional law, or critical thinking, when there is so much to learn in the feminist studies, gay studies, and African American studies classes.

Get your priorities straight you white male oppressor!

I taught business computers at a reputable small southern college several years ago. I was shocked at the total lack of interest and engagement of the students. At times, I felt like I was the only person in the room, even though 30 or the chairs were warm.
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