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Monday, August 25, 2008
Douglas MacKinnon :: Townhall.com Columnist
Mainstream Media Has a Great Fall
by Douglas MacKinnon
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With all due respect to Lewis Carroll and the originator of the “Humpty Dumpty” nursery rhyme, I give you this:

The mainstream media sat on Obama’s wall;
The mainstream media had a great fall.
All the slanted polls
And all the corrupt journalists,
Couldn’t put the mainstream media together again.

If you really pay attention to the networks, cable networks, and newspapers, you can look at their faces, read their body language, or read between the lines and come to a fairly reasoned conclusion. That being, that they are in a panic.

In violation of every ethical standard that allegedly governs their profession, a great many journalists and editors have gone into the tank so deeply for Barack Obama, that they have become an embarrassing extension of his campaign communications operation. So much so, that a few honest ombudsmen and media critics at “In-the-tank” newspapers, have been forced to criticize the practice.

No matter. In the tank they are. And yet, to the horror of these biased “journalists,” the American people seem to be mostly dismissing their predicable pro-Obama sermons and anti-McCain rants in favor of actual information gathering and an honest comparison of the two presidential candidates.

Like a character in the comics these left-of-center newspapers carry, you can almost see the balloon thoughts appear above their heads: “How can Obama be blowing this? We are giving him every advantage possible. We even threw Hillary Clinton overboard because she was less liberal than him and yet, the guy we pretended to like all these years, is overtaking our anointed candidate. How?”

The reason the liberal media is so perplexed by this development is because they are just coming off a massive and successful manipulation of the news and felt if they could do it then, they could do it at will. The past and ongoing manipulation to which I refer is the coverage of the war in Iraq.

For months and years, through the television, newspapers, books, and even blogs, the mainstream media relentlessly portrayed the war in the most negative terms possible. In the guise of ink-stained vampires, they purposely shunned the positive light of progress, a successful surge, and heroic sacrifice, in lieu of any story that would harm or discredit the Bush administration.

Shockingly, the most despicable way some in the mainstream media worked to manipulate the opinion of the American people against the war, was to act as a propaganda arm of the very terrorists killing our troops. How? Just think back to how many times the networks and cable networks showed that montage of multiple U.S. military vehicles -- and more importantly, the troops inside of them -- getting blown to bits. Who do you think shot that video? Only the very terrorists who just killed or maimed the troops in those vehicles.

When I speak to some of my former colleagues from the Pentagon, it is this video, and the networks disgusting and almost treasonous airing of it, that most upsets them. All of the networks and cable networks knew exactly who shot the video, and yet they still aired it. Is their hatred of Bush so intense, or their compassion for the families of U.S. troops who have to watch that video, so insignificant that they had no problem running an Al Qaeda snuff film?

After bombarding the American people with a steady diet of negative news regarding Iraq and our troops, these very same media outlets would conduct their own poll on the subject. The former Soviet Union never had it so good.

With that tarnished model as an example, the mainstream media figured it would be a cinch to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people with regard to Obama. Clearly, they have been wrong.

One reason they have been wrong is that while, for many Americans, Iraq was a far away, little understood, Middle-Eastern country, Barack Obama is something and someone much more tangible. While many Americans may not have understood -- nor had the time in their busy lives to learn - the intricacies of Iraq, its history, its neighbors, or the truth being kept from them by the media -- they are able to wrap their arms around Barack Obama and his less than impressive resume.

As we get closer to the election, more and more voters are now focusing their attention on Barack Obama, his ever changing narrative, his still to be fully explained associations with domestic terrorists and those who condemn America and his almost non-existent (if you -- as the Clinton campaign did -- rightfully deduct from his time in the Senate, his days on the campaign trail) national experience.

As they continue to do this by the millions, Barack Obama is coming up wanting in many of their eyes. The more they learn, the more they question. Russia’s recent incursion into Georgia has only made the American people more acutely aware of the critical importance of having a president with real-world experience.

To the ever lasting shame of our politicians, our nation, and all of us, biased liberals in the media got away with misrepreseting the war in Iraq and the mission of our troops. Fortunately this time, they have just tumbled off the Obama wall and may be taking the chameleon-like candidate with them.

The American people will decide this election.

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Five Stars
for a fine analysis. Another aspect of Obama that's beginning to unfold is his shameless dissembling and inability to admit having been wrong about anything. It's all on the record, and it would seem that the only way Obama could have imagined he'd get away with it all is complete reliance on media cover.

Douglas MacKinnon

Douglas MacKinnon,

Thank you for this fine uplifting column!

I am gratified that people are fially seeing the dangers of putting an unwitting naif into the most powerful job on Earth.
The Presidency of The United States of America.


The Reconstituted Rat

How long can he last?
Just how far can big white smiling teeth and an unctuous voice, and nothing else, take you in politics, in a shallow, youth- and entertainment-obsessed culture?

I guess we'll soon find out.

How can you stop them?
Reminds me of The Daily Worker. The one hope is the Internet which is much more informative and accurate. But now here come the video's, however they are not as manipulative as CNN or FOX or MSNBC.

Bro O is like Jello that has not completely jelled. When he runs out of mouth he dips in the Jello. This is killing him. McCain is concrete.
Don Jones
PoeSpirits.com

Notice Newspaper Sales Have Fallen
Since many of us have already figured out that the main stream media is in the tank for Obama, and for a socialist society in general. They've been bias for years; they only report on a Republican if the news is bad, and even then they make it as big as possible. They mainly only report news on Democrats if it's good, and only briefly skim over the negative, making excuses and usually blaming a Republican or America for their failings.

Recently, the Democrats have been on the short end of the facts and blatantly unfair press coverage, and they know it. Obama had fawning press coverage and Hillary had mainly negative coverage. Even Saturday Night Live spoofed the puff treatment Obama was getting. Compare Hillary's lie about sniper fire in Bosnia with Obama's lie about his abortion voting record, and then having the gall to call RTL liars, even with public records as their evidence. They can't block out the sun with their hands, and as much as they try to hide Obama's ugly facts, they are slowly leaking out.

America wants to revisit his church again; we aren't certain if Obama is Christian or Muslim.

America wants to see his birth certificate. We take these citizenship and alliegence issues very seriously; is Obama eligible or not? Why doesn't he just hand it over? What is he hiding? Let's see it right now. Amazing that a lawsuit needed to be filed. He should be forced to produce his original birth certificate or be disqualified.

We want to revisit his tax plans. The details have been murky and sound nonsensical to the average person with an inkling of business savvy. Let's hear the details some more.

These are the questions the media should be digging at, if they truly ask the questions we want to know about. We could care less about how many homes Cindy McCain owns, and we don't envy them either. And no, John McCain isn't an elitist snob.

Boycott And Shut Them Down

For trying to blatantly manipulate the outcome of the 2008 Presidential Election, for trying to push an anti-American socialist agenda, and for trying to deceive Americans about the character and qualifications of The Lemon, they deserve to be run out of business.

Obama's advocates
Doug MacKinnon is correct about the fawning media and Obama and Iraq. There's nary a sound bite of news about Iraq these days. If you want to see our (USA) snuff films of terrorists getting blown to smithereens, go to military.com.

The reason that the MSM annoints Obama as the messiah is that the MSM is sanctimonious. They truly believe they are the ones that will elect "the first black president". In November, after the vote if Obama wins, they'll all be adding that to their resumes and faxing them to the Obama headquarters, looking for administration jobs.

The MSM's self-righteousness is paramount; nothing, not country or ethics, will dissuade them from their sanctimony. They look forward to telling their grandchildren that they, and they alone, got the first black elected as POTUS. All their legs tingle at the thought.

Mainstream Media has a great fall.
It hasn't been a "great" fall. It's been a slippery slope decline. We are onto their ploys of news "drama" that goes on & on & on, and omitting valid reportable news.
Look at the "battle in the halls of the House," which has been going on for weeks. How
much have you heard from the common media?
Isn't a Republican "sit-in" in the House as reportable as a "sit-in" in a college?
What they DO REALIZE and are WORKING HARD to
squelch is talk radio and the internet web, via the "Fairness Doctrine" (what a misnomer) and
'net neutrality.' They want to control both of them, too. But then, THAT IS NEWS, so you might not hear it from the media.
I put no trust in them. Look at Dan Rather.
In reporting a clash of some kind, I could identify their slant when the host/reporter said (I actually heard it,) "as many as 2 may have been injured." DUH?
They are so far out to the left, they are in orbit, and I put NO stock in anything they
CHOOSE to report. And they've pushed Obama's toothy smile until people are tired of it.
You'll note (if you have access to NEWS) that
Obama said, "Fatherhood begins at conception."
Yet, when Rich Warren asked him when does life
begin, he hem-hawed about theology and science and said, "....that's above my pay grade." WHY
didn't he say "Fatherhood begins at conception?
Because he was talking to a difference audience?
He spoke of our 57 states (we have 50) Yet they
spent days with Dan Quayle's minor gaff.
A fair media COULD make a comedy out of Obama,
but they don't report his goofs, his speech/
"clarify;" speech/"what he meant...."
Until they control of it, I'll stick to the
internet and talk radio. I can get BOTH sides
of the views. For now, anyhow.


Biden strength; foreign policy?
From my recollection, Slow Joe has been wrong about every foreign policy issue since he was elected. I wouldn't call this a strength.

Actually Carolyn
One of the founding members of leftist MSM, Tom Brokaw, got the new spin from Pelosi Sunday that the sit-in was an oil industry ploy with the GOP as useful dupes. I have been saying this for years. The MSM no longer pretends to be objective. Since the darlings of political demonizing got slammed in 98 they have been out to get conservatives much to the delight of Soros/kos/ACLU/commie Hollywood.

Excellent point, DavidMac
Kind of like a reverse Watergate using the same methods. Criminal(Deep throat)/Treasonous (Aiding the enemy)activity overlooked to advance the agenda.

Great article
Spot on! The MSM are their own worst enemies, with the same kind of arrogance as Obama, no wonder they get along so well.

Media Bias and History
The news and MSM has always been biased. In the early years they were even more biased and in some cases were over the top in support of their candidate and vitriolic in attacking their opponents. It would really be educational to have some copies of the newspapers of the days when Jefferson and Adams were battling for the type of Republic we would have (Adams won because Jefferson did not contend the bogus Marbury case)). The thing was that in those days they made no bones about their partiality. There was no such thing as “fair and balanced”.

Now in our so-called enlightened age they are less vitriolic (in most cases) but they are still as partisan as ever, and in some cases such as NBC, they are over the top. H*ll, after being bought out, my small twice weekly hometown newspaper has virtually became an advertising arm of the local and State Democrap Party.

And it isn’t just the MSM either. Hollywood and the movies get in their plugs even when the movie is not supposed to have any political ramifications.

If these bogus campaign finance rules were made fair any news story by the networks would have to be counted as an in-kind contribution to the candidates and Dem Party.

Pithy comments from all
Thank you and good morning. MacKinnon did a great job on this one. For 30 years i was a cover to cover newspaper reader where ever i was. Can't stomach the loaded adjectives, the obvious agenda and the mindlessly shallow coverage anymore. The hippie baby boomers who dominate the media, the movies and particularly the higher educations system are primarily responsible. America has its warts, and when these flower children saw them, they threw out the baby with the bath water. Now all too many children grow up in a peer group culture one step away from Lord of the Flies. All too much of our culture is powered by affluence and good intentions in the well off segments, and demagagues preaching victimization in the low rent areas. Reality and the eternal conservative verities of education, self-reliance, hard work, deferred gratification, sexual responsibility are ignored or deplored by these aging hippies. Good intentions pave the road to misery, and that light the liberals see at the end of the tunnel is an oncoming freight train.

Its tempting
to say that old fogies for milennia have been deploring the deterioration of the society around them. Over 2000 years ago some old Greek wrote something like Civilization is deteriorating. Good manners have disappeared from the streets, children no longer obey their parents, and everybody wants to write a book. But over my lifetime, while much has changed for the better, much has changed to worry about. Well, its up to the kids now. Its their boat, they will have to navigate and row it. In a couple hours i will be surrounded by a few hundred beautiful smiling kids, the eternal hope of mankind. Before i check out, its fun to show them how a sextant works and maybe pass out a few oars.

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Date: Aug 25, 2008 - 5:36 AM EST Subject: Its tempting
to say that old fogies for milennia have been deploring the deterioration of the society around them. Over 2000 years ago some old Greek wrote something like Civilization is deteriorating. Good manners have disappeared from the streets, children no longer obey their parents, and everybody wants to write a book. But over my lifetime, while much has changed for the better, much has changed to worry about. Well, its up to the kids now. Its their boat, they will have to navigate and row it. In a couple hours i will be surrounded by a few hundred beautiful smiling kids, the eternal hope of mankind. Before i check out, its fun to show them how a sextant works and maybe pass out a few oars.


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The best remark
On this came from MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, who said (quote) "If the media were any further in the tank for Obama, they'd drown."

The fact that he said this on the air indicates two things to me; first, that the bias is obvious to those inside the echo chamber, and second, that they are now aware that the "great unwashed masses" have rumbled their game.

Which means that Mr. MacKinnon is correct on all counts- by the media's own, open admission.

They think they're putting their definition of a "made man" in the Oval Office. My guess is that what they're really doing is closer, as the old saying goes, to re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

clear ether

eon

Ratas y Ratones
Sorry to desert you last night. I laughed and laughed. Great way to start the day. Have to go now. In 2000 when i retired i swore i would never work again, and so far, thanks to Providence and Mr. 401, i have been able to stick to that resolve. But teaching 8th grade math has been loads of fun. Its a day maker to see a student's face light up when they find out you will be their instructor for the day. As soon as it becomes work, i'll do something else, like get caught up sighting in my new shooters. But for now, its algebra for the advanced group. These bright shiny kids are enough to make even a grumpy old phart grin...or at least i'm sure they would if there were any old pharts around.

Main Stream Media - Liberal Propaganda
Not everyone buys what the MSM is selling. The readership of most large Liberal Newspapers is falling faster than a shooting Star. FOX news continues to lay waste to CNN, MSNBC, CBS and the rest. Its because these Liberal Morons are completely self absorbed and believe that the rest of the world believes the crap that they print and spew.

REAPING WHAT WE'VE SOWN
The older generation gave birth to the generation now controlling the main stream media--a generation that we gave everything in our power to give, without making them earn it. A generation brainwashed by tv commercials which convinced them there was a pill to cure any ill they might suffer. A generation allowed (even encouraged) to satisfy instant gratification with a plastic credit card. A generation we sacrificed for, using what we earned and not given, in order to send them to college. A generation indoctrinated by higher education which successfully erased any common sense they might've still had and molded their minds into believing everything is either disposable(until its use is no longer needed or wanted), or temporary (no longer needed).
We, the older generation, with the best intentions of giving our children a better life, have been rewarded, not with respect, honor or appreciation, but have reaped the disregard of being "temporary and disposable" to the seeds we have sown.
It's no wonder that the generation of the main stream media, with all their power, seeks to continue the way they grew up--worshiping their "idol" who represents all that they are and elevating him onto the pedestal of President.
We, the older generation, who created the fatal mistakes of this generation, need to fix our mistakes, knock down the walls that were not earned by this generations patriotism, sweat and blood, and prevent their "idol" from destroying our country from on high.

As one generation dies off....
I've always told myself (now closer to 40) that we only need to hang in there until the 60s hippies and the 50s marxists die off and then things will get back to some semblance of sanity. Optimist that I am, I am raising my kids to operate in a sane world hopefully once again. Unfortunately, what I keep seeing is all the human damage that has been done by these commies in disguise - as socialists - and there is literally trails of generations that they have (gladly) destroyed. Then I read an article like this and realize that maybe, just maybe, not everyone has been educated into stupidity....the "news" hasn't been in the business of real reporting for quite some time. They are only interested in making and shaping stories and advertisements so that they look like news. Only in a society at the HEIGHT of its own ignorance could Barak Hussein Obama be a serious candidate for President. I hope it is indeed the media that is on that wall..about to fall...and NOT the USA on that wall.

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"almost treasonous"????
With all due respect Mr. MacKinnon, the MSM's airing of "Al Quieda snuff films" was not ALMOST treasonous, it is in fact TREASONOUS! We as a country need to hold those guilty of treason and sedition (two words that are lacking in our country's vocabulary) accountable. Moral relativism and the removal of civic duty teachings in our schools are the culprits here in my opinion. If our attitudes of today were the attitudes of the WW II era, we'd all be speaking german! Since our schools and MSM cannot be trusted (as is so obviously evident)with providing our children and many adults with clarity of thought, balanced information and sense of genuine patriotism (civic duties and responsibilities) then you (I sadly do not have any children to teach) as parents must take it upon yourselves to accomplish this. Now, GET BACK TO WORK! Millions of illegal immigrants on welfare are depending on YOU!

MSM = America Haters
Having spent over 20 years in Brazil, I have never seen Brazilian media badmouth their own country, quite the contrary. I still read their papers because they give me a far better view in the current world. I am unable to ever detect any bias one way or another.
The American media has become a sad, mediocre medium, unworthy of even half-intelligent people.
Their claim that printed news is on free-fall due to the internet is ludicrous, most printed media around the world are growing or at least holding their own.
Looks like our mediocre media has orchestrated it's own demise simply through their transparent, constant America-bashing stance.

One of My Favorites

“I know a lot of you believe that most people in the news business are liberal. Let me tell you, I know a lot of them, and they were almost evenly divided this time. Half of them liked Senator Kerry; the other half hated President Bush.”
— CBS’s Andy Rooney on the November 7, 2004 60 Minutes.

Speaking of Nursery Rhymes

I enjoy satire and at times here at TH, I even make my own lame attempts at satire. It is getting where one cannot make up what is actually going on.
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A story based on the Three Little Pigs fairy tale has been turned down by a government agency's awards panel as the subject matter could offend Muslims.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/7204635.stm

What is next? Little girls cannot wear pigtails?

Piggly Wiggly stores shutdown?

Miss Piggy banned from television?

The World is becoming insane.


Former CBS President

“Personally, I have a great affection for CBS News....But I stopped watching it some time ago. The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me. I still check in, but less and less frequently. I increasingly drift to NBC News and Fox and MSNBC.”
— Former CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter in an op-ed published January 13, 2005 in the Los Angeles Times.


Is the New York Times Liberal?

“Of course it is....These are the social issues: gay rights, gun control, abortion and environmental regulation, among others. And if you think The Times plays it down the middle on any of them, you’ve been reading the paper with your eyes closed.”
— New York Times Public Editor Daniel Okrent in a July 25, 2004 column which appeared under a headline asking, “Is The New York Times a Liberal Newspaper?”

Dear Shauna
I hate to burst your bubble, but as I am on the cutting edge of the baby boomers I have to disabuse you of the idea that all of us sixty-somethings are (were) hippies. In the South, hippies were freaks I saw on TV. Doing drugs was a serious social and legal offense. The closest encounter I had was my weird cousin who became a vegetarian.

The problem was, is, and always will be that the most obnoxious somehow find their way to make a public nuisance of themselves, either in public office or in the media.

Before you make too broad a bush, remember that some of us old folks are highly responsible and deeply conservative.

n2win
I would add to your observations the fact that political correctness has done more to stiffle free speech than any law that has ever been enacted. It is nothing more than liberal censorship.

Carol Simpson ABC NOT Neutral

“I won’t make any pretense that the ‘American Agenda’ [segments on World News Tonight] is totally neutral.

We do take a position. And I think the public wants us now to take a position. If you give both sides and ‘Well, on the one hand this and on the other that’ — I think people kind of really want you to help direct their thinking on some issues.”
— ABC News reporter Carole Simpson on CNBC’s Equal Time, August 9, 1994.

Obama-ites to the Rear!
B.H.O. is no reformer – he’s a gangster-style, old school Chicago hack. B.H.O. is not “The One” – he is by calculative composition a champion of his master’s agenda (Unions, Planned Parenthood, and Mr. Soros et al). B.H.O. will change our capitalist country into one, big union shop run by the Democrats; bent towards the left so far that his socialist European friends will recognize him for the Communist at heart he really is.
I do not fear him; I loathe him for the holocaust of the Unborn (and in some cases the Born) he so adamantly supports. I do not think is name is funny; I think his name speaks defiantly of his family’s murderous, African-Muslim roots.
The more his candidacy is vetted, the more we learn about the puppet-masters behind the scrim of the burka. The G.O.P. will have enormous crossover votes because we love to win, believe our country is the best the world has ever seen, and mightily disapprove of American apologists. We will elect McCain because he actually will put the country first – and has the alarming record of cavorting with Democrats to prove it. John may not have led the perfect, conservative life but no one has, eh? McCain’s life is an open book and Obama’s is shrouded in mystery, deceit, and dope.
See you at the polls!

Good Morning To All

Excellent comments for the outstandiong MacKinnon column.

Year after year, the elite, liberal media has tried to pass off their philosophy as "news". Thankfully, they are not getting away with it. Kudos to Fox News, Conservative Talk Radio and a hand full of major city newspapers.

But as Mackinnon states so well, the greatest thanks must go to the American people who have seen through the bias and slanted news of MSM.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW!!

God Bless Them!

17Summers
Excellent comments.

Unlike you - I had my liberal, hippie days, but managed to recover from such juvenile practices at a young age to become a rock-solid Reagan conservative.

There are many of us - but we don't aspire to be "journalists", by and large.

17Summers: No bubble here to burst!
I assumed that I was actually using a THIN brush stroke when I SPECIFIED my comments pertaining to SPECIFIC people groups within said generations, did I not? And as for some in those generations being responsible - I am well aware of that as my parents are in that generation (the 50's one anyway - husband is in the 60s one) and they did a spectacular job of raising us and they are solidly conservative people. There is no need to be offended if you are not : 1) Marxist 2) weren't a lazy, anarchist (communist), drug induced sex freak of the 60s. Simple!

Retired Geek
Surveys say that NBC/MSNBC is the most biased of the Networks. I tend to agree with that.

I find that Fox is only a mildly liberal tilting network (15°), CBS and ABC or next with a 45° tilt, and NBC with a 90° tilt.

Newspapers
Who listens or reads the MSM? These jerks actually believe that the American people are as stupid as they are. If Obama weren't a black man, he definitely wouldn't be a savior as the MSM has proclaimed. From affirmative action to president - what a story.

the best part
They've recorded their own bias for future generations to examine and sift. Future generations will expose the post WWII media as corrupt, propaganda machines. I wish I could be here to read the titles of future PhD dissertations.

"Did the media push the culture in a direction from 1965-1975?"

"Why did the media report 'soft news'?"

"Was the media stricken with BDS during President Bush's years in office?"

"When Andrea Mitchell asked the question, 'I can't understand why BHO isn't doing better in the polls', could we complete her sentence for her by saying, 'because media brainwashing worked so well in the past?'"

Maybe some young journalist will hammer a manifesto to their door.

Probably the younguns will consider them dinosaurs, ignore them, and they will soon be extinct.

THE "PROS" AND "CONS"
The last two years of unending political coverage has demonstated quite clearly we are indeed a balanced society. It's pretty much 50/50. One half of our citizens--I call them the "PROS"--are patriotic, loyal, honest, intelligent and hard working. The other half-- I call them the "CONS"--are directly the opposite, being unpatriotic, disloyal, dishonest, unintelligent(even with their elite education) and having a non-existant work ethic.
Hopefully the "PROS" have it and the liberal socialist "CONS" will lose and fly 'THE ONE THEY'VE BEEN WAITING FOR' at half mast.

Shauna
Please re-read your post. I do think it is open to interpretation whether you were branding age groups. I do offer my apology for my misread.

Vic good points

I do not think the American people are stupid but most are ill-informed. Never forget our education system are graduating students where many are considered illterate.

There are stores that sell items "As Seen on TV" in many areas. My wife and I went in one in atourist trap area. The goods are basically 'junk' for the most part. The store was filled with people with full carts of this 'junk'.

Many Americans can be easily sold by 'Pitchmen' reminescent of 'Elmer Gantry' and 'Snake Oil Salesman'.

Race hustlers have fooled millions.

Obama is just another 'huckster' selling nothing but words that everyone can relate to.

'Hope' is something every human holds in some area or another - Obama has never explained 'Hope' and NONE of his followers know exactly what the definition of Obama 'Hope' is.

Obama 'Hope' is nothing more than a sales pitch without true meaning.

God help us.

Primus
Good morning! Today is the day the party begins! I am curious to hear how Michelle Obama re-invents herself and see how Hillary looks after her face-lift she has just gone through (literally a cosmetic surgery face-lift). Unfortunately, unless they started at her ankles, it may have been in vain.

I am having computer problems, hence the handle changes.

Retired Geek
I, also, call upon God to help us. We have reached critical mass in our societal downward spiral. I feel a sense of urgency now as I have never felt before.

17Summers
Accepted. I re -read it. You are correct, it could be open to interpretation.

Missed one point.
Mr. McKinnon wrote a great article but he missed one more point. The MSM is also in the tank so they can show they are not prejudiced. This would not make sense to a conservative but it is real big among libs. Of course they need to show they are not prejudiced as all the news anchors and all the cable news show anchors are white. By being for the black candidate they get to lecture all of us on race. Meanwhile they are pretty all one color themselves. They hope no one notices.

Human Objectivity on Complex Events?

A question for all thinkers?

Can a Human being be objective on complex events such as, Abortion, Iraq War, Marriage etc. I think not.

Objective being defined as expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations.

This one of the reasons that Fox News has had such success. Far from perfect, Fox News has attempted to have Liberals, Conservatives and Moderates present opinions and facts and let the viewer decide.

Most humans are only interested in hearing their own views re-inforced.

Where am I wrong on this?

Retired Geek
I think we are on a downward spiral and there is little that can stop it. I feel sorry for my grand children.

Geek, Shauna, Vic
What is the difference between Michelle Obama and Angela Davis?

Bias Coverage? Really?
I'm sorry, I watch FOX almost exclusively and they were condemned for their attempt to show both sides of the political process. I remember Brian walking off the set when taking a position for Obama. Now there is a passion and commitment to insuring balance I can agree with!
(I am not an OBAMA supporter but I have respect for Brian,without knowing his political position).
NBC,CBS,ABC,and CNN would be the first to abrogate the 1st Amendment protection of the right to a free press. It almost seems they are competing to become the official " State News Broadcaster" under Obamas plan to nationalize the media. They already support the nationalization of energy starting with "big Oil"

Bias? Really?
I'm sorry, I watch FOX almost exclusively and they were condemned for their attempt to show both sides of the political process. I remember Brian walking off the set when taking a position for Obama. Now there is a passion and commitment to insuring balance I can agree with!
(I am not an OBAMA supporter but I have respect for Brian,without knowing his political position).
NBC,CBS,ABC,and CNN would be the first to abrogate the 1st Amendment protection of the right to a free press. It almost seems they are competing to become the official " State News Broadcaster" under Obamas plan to nationalize the media. They already support the nationalization of energy starting with "big Oil"

A Fairy Tale
A motorcyclist is at the zoo. He sees a little girl put her head into the lions cage. The lion grabs the girl in his mouth and tries to pull her in. The biker runs to the cage and hits the lion in the nose, causing it to release the girl. A witness walks up to the biker and says "That was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen. I'm a reporter for the New York Times and I want to put your story in the paper, but I need to ask two questions, What kind of motorcycle do you ride and what political party do you belong to?" The biker said "I ride a Harley and I'm a Republican." The next day the story was printed in the NYT under the headline Biker Gang Member Assaults African Immigrant, Steals His Lunch.

Retired Geek
You are right in that most people have opinions on these subjects. That should not stop someone from being objective. In the same manner that someone who sits on a jury should be. Probably no one is in favor or murder but we are able to sit juries who give the defendant the benefit of the doubt.

17 Summers let me take a shot a your question. One of them is not in Cuba at the present time. If I'm right do I win anything?

Defeating Communism

I often debate Communism on Communist websites around the world. Recently I asked why Communists are continuing to attempt to foister Communisim on America when Communism has been an abject failure, in every application in other countries i.e. Cuba, Russia and China.

Here is one reply:
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"Communism has never failed because it's never been tried. Cuba, Russia and China are not and were never communist, because communism can only exist globally."

Marxists and Liberals think alike. The reason for their failure is because of lack of cooperation by everyone worldwide.

Marxists and Liberals believe in every aspect of their personal or political actions - someone else is responsible for failure NOT THEM.

This is why most MSM report the way they do - if everyone would just think like them all human problems would cease to exist.



The Godfather I et al

A murder trial is a 'Specific' event - I very clearly stated 'Objective on Complex Events'.

Capital punishment or the 'Death Penalty' debate is a 'Complex' issue a murder trial is a specific event.

Michelle O
17 Summers wrote: "What is the difference between Michelle Obama and Angela Davis?"

Angela never had anyone significant in the MSM to cover up her tracks.
Michelle is married to the Anointed One.

"She's the new Jackie O!"---Chris Matthews

Moonbat Exterminator et al

Unfortunately the 'Fairy Tale' is the way things usually happen in the MSM.

Very funny though!

Fear Not
If Obama gets too far ahead the press will switch sides.

A close race is better for business which is what America is all about.

it is not who wins but how much money you make during the race.

Jose

NOTE to Town Hall posters

I debate with atheists, communists or most any other view.

I DO NOT respond to Trolls who are trying to start argunents by name calling and ad hominem attacks.

Just a suggestion, debate any view - ignore trolls.

repug cheater
Gosh, what a clever handle. Will you libs never get over the fact that alGore FAILED to steal an election? Are you one of the dhimwitted FL dummies who couldn't figure how the party bosses wanted you to vote?

I watch Fox, not because it reinforces my opinion, but because I helps me to form one by looking at all sides. CNN, MSNBC etc. have nothing but disdain and disgust for conservatives (as you obiviously do) and it is rather offputting. People who sit in front of the major networks for info are like abused spouses.

Hooray for Rush, also. He can make me laugh even on the darkest days, when it seems the liberal PC poison is going to destroy us all.

MacKinnon's article on the MSM
Excellent Article
I think we should all do the 'right thing'.
Think and reason objectively.
Continually state the facts, and challenge progessives, MSM etc.. to respond in kind.

I also recommend Jonah Goldberg's book,
'Liberal Fascism'.
It gives excellent insight into thinking and politics unfettered by 'a moral code'.
Regards;
Dwight M. Broadstone

News or propaganda?
This is the third such commentary on the MSM's love affair with Obama that I've read in the past week and all I can say is IT IS ABOUT TIME! I have stopped buying any paper other than a local one and almost never watch the MSM's "news" since it was so obviously one sided as to be almost comical! As for the way they've treated our military serving in the Middle East....it is disrespectful at the least and borders on treason at its worst. Do they really think we're so ignorant as to believe all the crap they're trying to feed us?? Scary thing is....I think they do! I can't wait to see all the head-scratching and confused looks from the MSM when Obama fails to sweep the nation come November!

Retired Geek
I'm not in disagreement with you. They are biased if you read my eariier post you'd see that. I just thought they could try. Perhaps that's the optomist in me. Realistically it would be better if they just announced it like Hannity or Colmes does. While I already know their prejudices it actually might garner them some credibility if they came out and said I'm a lib this is what we think. This is not necessarily the news.

Summers et al

I would rather have Jeremiah Wright as POTUS than Barack Obama.

Mentor Wright has shown more character and integrity than Barack Obama.

Mentor Wright publishes and states his positions. Barack Obama obfuscates and attempts to hide his true beliefs.

Michelle Obama married Barack.

The Godfather good response!

We are in agreement.

I am trying to say that I cannot be objective about Marxism I am a recovered Marxist.

I am trying to say that I cannot be objective about Atheism I am a recovered Atheist.

I am trying to say that I cannot be objective about Humanism I am a recovered Humanist.

September 6, 1972 - Free at Last.

I am Surprised

I am surprised that NBC didn't cut Kobe Bryants response to NBC commentator on why Kobe played for team USA.

Bryant said, "Our country, we believe, is the greatest county in the world and it's given us so many great opportunities and it's just this sense of pride that you have, that you say, you know what, our country is the best."

We can't even count on Fox
When Fox did the recent portrait of both candidates, during Obama's history, Ayes, Dohrn and his communist mentor, Davis, were left out. Perhaps the fact that Hennings who used to be with CNN was the nerrator had something to do with it but I think it was more then him.

MSM,Democrats ,Blacks
It should be alarming to all patriots
that for the sake of electing a Black to the Office of President who does not like America or its Flag along with his wife who feels the same way, the Democrats, the Media, Black Veterans, Black Politicians, Black Celebrities like Oprah Winfry in particular would vote even after being informed that Hussein Che Obama is a Marxist, Islamofacist Muslim with ties to Terrorists like William Ayers, to Marxist groups like Acorn, to Anarchist Pastors like Jeremiah Wright, and Pfleger, and Jesse Jackson.

That white Democrat Voters like Hillary Clinton with ties to the Chicago Anarchists who looked up to Marxist
Anarchist Saul Alinsky would now support Hussein Che Obama is no surprise.

The fact that Jewish Voters and Jewish legislators in the Democrat 110th Congress would overlook these facts for the sake of not alienating their constituents is alarming. Yet If the Black was a Neo Nazi there would be outcry's.

Its not a surprise that Senator Joe Biden who says he is a Catholic would agree to be a VP for a Marxist Islamofacist Muslim who does not value the life of a Child born after a botched Abortion attempt.


loco
You make an interesting point. I thought the piece on McCain was tougher on him as a candidate and a person than the Obama piece by Bill Hemmer. Of course, the McCain piece was not done by Hemmer. I was surprised at the large areas in Obama's life that went virtually unnoticed. By that, not only did Hemmer not address them but people did not seem to remember him. Odd.

The Godfather 1
Yes, for the first response you get a tour of Chappaquiddick. Teddy the Swimmer will do the driving.

NBC
Pity Tom Brokaw and Brian Williams, two liberal but reasonably objective journalists who have seen their network hijacked by Chris Matthews (who admits he wets his pants over Obama) and the vile Keith Olberman (who does nothing for an hour each night except trash George Bush). Now MSNBC is adding Rachel Maddow, a Communist lesbian. Pathetic.

CBS News
I love watching CBS News, it's the best comedy on TV these days!

RGeek-Vic-Primus-17Summers-Others
The Obamoron is a caricature of a Liberal. Came from a Broken Home, Drug Abuser, Absent Father, Ba$tard Brothers & Sisters EVERYWHERE, Hates White People, A Drug Abuser and his wife runs the show. Biden is a Longwinded JackA-$-$ who talks a lot but says NOTHING worth hearing, how apropos for a Liberal. However Hillary’s Hairy Legged & Homely Harridans will still be heard from.

No mention of FAR LEFT
One could say that Hillary Clinton represents veiws left of John McCain.

The media attempt to present Barack/Biden as anything but radical left. They are the champions of the little guy and the middle class according to the media. But look at the first shot B/B took at McCain. He is an elitist because he has homes in which he allows family members stay??? Sounds to me that is the type of self determination Americans used to aspire to. Get money to take care of our own.

Unfortunately I haven't caught much from NBC or the other networks, and I am only using my preconceptions of the media but I'm thinking they haven't made much of this view of how one should be allowed to use one's own money. Please someone set me straight.


reactions to this evil


Myself-- having long ago decided the print media was a deranged bunch, not only liberal; I canceled my subscriptions to the major fishwraps. Lately we can see they're all sinking fast. Advertising revenue is failing and only the ultra lefies buy newspapers. Prices are going up, which is sooo stupid. What does that tell advertisers? EVEN LESS readership!

My HEALTHY reactions to TV:

The only hateful one I still allow onto my big HD screen anymore is Ted Turner-- his Classic movies. Otherwise, accursed CNN, MSNBC, CBS and others are never tuned in. Fox is OK for Neil Cavuto & O'Reilly. The others even there are chance propositions. DN is an almost full-time boycotter. I watch EWTN, and the horseraces on TVG. They're enough to make me happy. Masterpiece Theater and Antiques Roadshow on PBS; skip public radio.

For news: Go to the Internet and SURF.

the dum-ones humpty dumpty
the sad facts,with obama there is no nursery,look at his voting record on abortion!barack likes rap by ludicrous.shame on the news media!mike diamond from dallas texas.

Media Bias
The final story on media bias is yet to be written. As Americans discover more & more slanted stories, more & more push polls, more & more ignored facts (Edwards affair was known, but no one wanted to take time to seriously investigate it, because... he was a liberal Democrat), and even some in the media actually deliberately working with some insiders to plant stories favorable to "their" candidate, they realize each & every bit of "news" presented to them, must be viewed as probably partisan, & definitely designed to convince us to "buy" the man for the people bit the media showers us with.
Ethics in journalism are non-existent for many. Whether its the "thrill up the leg," or 'Worst Person," or any other pathetic ramble, those who refuse to acknowledge their bias', are those we must condemn in the strongest possible words and actions. They do not deserve their jobs or their huge salaries.

SJ Doc
You accurately describe the Bradley/Dinkins/Wilder effect, which is why the polls overstate Obama's support.

However, that does not mean that those who vote against Obama are racist bigots, but that when questioned they want to appear open-minded and voice support for Obama even if they disagree with his policies.

Now, Georgetwin,
be kind with regard to Big Hill, she has gotten a face-lift since she quit the campaign trail! As I said earlier, unless it started at the ankles, it was a waste of time and money.

I thought Pistol was from Henry V


One of my favorite Shakespeare characters: Pistol.

Henry V is a fantastic play; Pistol will have you screaming with delight;

I have a VHS copy. Robert Middleton does Pistol proud.

And the inimitable Olivier. All of you rent a copy and watch PISTOL!

17Summers
I siad nothing about Hillary. I was talking about her supporters, The Paleo-Dykes.

Fantastic article
The MSM has propped up Marxist Obamas character through his entire campaign and they have some how forgotten that WE as Americans have an indisputable right to protect ourselves from all the lies.

The individual who is not anchored in God can offer no resistance on his own resources to the physical and moral blandishments of the world. (Jung)

SJ Doc
I agree with much of what you say. And I believe that those who dislike Obama at a visceral (racial) level are likely more turned off by his wife and his associates than they are by Obama himself. The last thing on earth that those with even a tinge of bias want is for Michelle Obama to lecture them. For white men, Michelle is even worse than Hillary.

Liberals (and anyone else) are perfectly free to vote for Obama if they desire Socialist policies.

My strong objections to Obama are based on his political positions. Race is not an issue because he is unacceptable to me regardless of race. In other words, even if race was a consideration, we could never get to that point becuase of ideology.

My point is that many so-called moderates or independents may say they are voting for Obama to appear "cool", but will ultimately vote for McCain, primarily because at the end they will decide that Obama is too far left or too risky.

There are also those who will vote against Obama specifically because of race, but many of these folks are blue collar Democrats.

SJ Doc
By the way, I like your reference to "faux negritude."

Baraq/Barry Hussein Soetoro/Obama has spent his entire life portraying himself as whatever best suited his current needs, whether it was Kenyan, Muslim, Hawaiian, black, or whatever would gain him some advantage.

The MSM depends on Revenue
The MSM's continued favorable coverage about Obama is nothing less than free advertising for him. Advertising relies on credibility. Should Obama lose the election, the hundreds of millions of dollars spent on promoting him by the MSM will become a testament to their ineffectiveness of being a credible advertising instrument. This will not go unnoticed by the major corporations that spend billions of dollars every year on advertising their products in the MSM. It's one thing that both political parties have massive warchests to spend, it's quite another when the MSM willingy and financially supports one candidate over another and their chosen one loses.

Georgetwin
I realize that; but, as Big Hill is changing she may cause the Hairy Feminatzis to, also. Just be on notice that you will see a new and improved Hill.

Charles/SJDoc
I can not stand the Vomit because he is a communist.

I also can't stand McLame because he loves to be a semi-communist.

I would love to see Sowell run, I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

Great Article
Right on the money. Even the nitwits are starting to figure out the MSM. Now if the blithering idiots can begin to see the obvious.

Great Article
Right on the money. Even the nitwits are starting to figure out the MSM. Now if the blithering idiots can begin to see the obvious.

Vic - Hell, I'd like Walter Williams
--
...to run. I've lived all my life in the shadow of Philadelphia (I took my baccalaureate degree at St. Joe's), so I have a pretty good handle on Walter Williams' origins in North Philly and what he had to do to get beyond the limitations imposed upon black youngsters growing up in that god-damnable place.

Dr. Sowell would be a fine candidate, no question.

But I'd vote for Dr. Williams with equal enthusiasm. That man is the real deal, and always has been.

--

Re: Brickhouse
I got emotional the other day when the local Houston Chronicle had a slamming article about one of the foremost companies in the area. Completely uncalled for and a lie.

I wrote a letter which was never printed of course and told them not to renew my subscription.

They should be in panic as most of us are tired of this rubbish.

Vic
You only have two choices, Obama or McCain, and there is a distinct difference. Nobody cares about a protest vote, and it will not make any difference in the future.

Sowell and Williams are fine individuals, but we need to deal with reality.

17Summers
Maybe so, but what can she do? If she moves right, she’ll lose what supporters she has. Obamoron already has the Hard Left brainwashed, he used an eyedropper to do it ;).

SJDoc
I'd take Williams as well.

Georgetwin
I think I am talking at you rather than to you. I was making fun of Hillary's looks. Ugly on my part. Why would she go out and have cosmetic surgery after the primary? Is she going to star in a movie? I should have realized that I didn't make my point!

Love the eyedropper observation!

Free market and Supply and Demand
If Liberals understood anything at all about the free market and supply and demand they would realize that all you need to prove the Liberal bias in the MSM is the success of Conservative talk radio and the corresponding failure of Liberal talk radio. It is called ‘marginal propensity to consume’. Liberal talk radio fails because its consumers are already satiated with what they get in the MSM. There is no ‘marginal propensity to consume’ any more of it. Conservative talk radio succeeds because its consumers can not get the product they desire through the MSM; only through Conservative talk radio.

But then if Liberals understood anything at all about the free market and supply and demand, they wouldn’t be Liberals.

17Sunners
I have known women who got new shoes, new hair or new clothes when depressed. Of course they were ½ of Hillary’s age and didn’t have her resources. My guess is losing was like having a building fall on her and a facelift was the same thing, just more excpensive.

17Summers in English ;)!
SORRY!

Charles

Excellent, interesting posts. Your 2:29 p.m. EST outstanding.

Look for the MSM to keep pounding the pro-Obama drum. You can be sure any kind of "Black and White" issues will be kept low key. The Obama people get a chills down their backs when "White Working Class Voters" are mentioned.

Liberal Dems., thank heaven, always find a way to foul things up. As Douglas MacKinnon notes, fair minded Americans are seeing through the Obama/MSM love affair.

This election has a Gore/Kerry Deja Vu feel about it.

What to do?
I am so heartened to see so many sane people respoinding to this great article. My question is: How do we defeat this nonsense? I cannot watch any televised programs during prime time any more. The insane stupidity of what is called "entertainment" makes me sick. There are no redeeming programs to be found. NOTHING with a moral or ethical value to be found. I have limited my viewing time to sports and the "do it yourself" shows - so sad...

signed,
A California Republican (one of the few)

Just wondering...
...what is going to happen when Obama loses?

...any ideas?

Your Obedient Servant,

George Washington

Scott
I understand your angst. Please do not think it is limited to a lone California Republican. There seems to be an uneasy feeling held by so many people I talk to these days. One of the troubling things is the threat of Obama, a man about whom we know little and what little we know is not good.

We have gotten to the point that moral relativity is the rule of the day and we have kow-towed to political correctness to the degree that we are called names when we now attempt to speak up. It is enough to distress us all. But, know this, the pendulum of thought and values will swing back from the liberalism that distresses us so now to a comforting conservative, value based, traditional path. It has taken what seems an eternity; but, I have seen it go from one way to the other in my lifetime. I will see it return to sanity.

Never become so discouraged that you aren't proactive. In the interim, watch Holmes on Homes!

I wish you the best and will remember you in my prayers. Blessings to you.

george washington
When Obama loses, we will all complain about McCain. It will be the prime time to call and write Congress and McCain to complain about what we don't like and demand some action be taken. It will be the time to take action against the GOP leadership by demanding change and a time to groom a new face with conservative ideas for 2012.

I would be a liar if I said that George Bush was anything but a disappointment to me. While I like the tax cuts, it is one of the few things he has done that I think is worthwhile. I do not know if he is tone deaf or stone deaf; but, he has paid little attention to those who elected him. No matter what he has done, I am thankful that we did not suffer Gore or Kerry. But, this election should serve as a turning point for all of us to say NO MORE and start demanding closed borders and other changes we so desperately need.

I don't drink. When Obama loses I will buy a bottle of champagne, lay back on the hood of my car and drink it through a straw.

george washington
Reaction to Obama loss will be riots, looting, charges of election fraud, and protracted media hand-wringing about racism in America. What else is new?

Charles
In college we called that a self-organized pep rally. (Kidding) I was hoping the Dems would be where Obama took his fall. Today, even CNN is reporting how distressed the Dems are about Obama and his presence now that the luster has worn thin.

17Summers
Thanks so much for the prayers. Indeed, we must fight the good fight. It just amazes me how blindly the masses follow Obama. As a Christian I am ever hopeful though, it is just sad to see so many well-meaning friends and neighbors blinded by his empty promises and rhetoric. I understand that most people are either apathetic to the world around them, or they just don't have the time to look deeper than a daily dose of the MSM.

Regards.

Rationalizations for Obama

The complex process the human mind uses to arrive at decision-making has been the topic of many volumes.

One consensus that is generally held is the human mind can justify any decision and any action that it takes.

Rationalization is the mortal enemy of facts, logic and reason.

Rationalization is in ‘simple’ terms, a defense mechanism that attempts to explain bad decisions or behavior in a rational logical manner.

Rationalizing that a vote for any candidate that cannot win is not a vote for Obama gives us a prime example of rationalization.

Rationalizing that a ‘symbolic’ vote will teach the major parties a lesson contrasts the reality of their premise that the major parties ‘do not know what they are doing’ and ‘haven’t learned from the past’.

Teaching 'Politicians' a lesson is oxymoronic at best - Obama-Followers will vote for Obama regardless.

Third party votes at this time in history, is simply a 'proxy' vote for Obama that gives one a feeling of 'superior' Patriotism, I guess.

Rationalizing that ones closely held principles trump the safety and wellfare of America and its citizens is little different from those who want America destroyed.

Those who say we need to return to the Constitution that many Americans have left or attempted to destroy will be best accomplished by giving Obama and Liberals their desires and wishes to control America, is akin to giving children matches and gasoline.

The children will surely learn a lesson if survival succeeds in overcoming the odds.

Rationalizers - What exactly is your 'Recovery Plan'?

Rationalizing that an Obama presidency will be good for America in the long run defies facts, logic and reason.

The Gore/Kerry Ruckes Will Seem Tame If

Al Sharpton will lose his voice due to the non-stop screaming and shouting he'll engage in.

Also:

Chris Matthews will cry on National T.V.

The NAACP will demand recounts in every state.

Michelle will inform the media that there is something wrong with America. What is that something, Michelle? Everything, she will say.

Finally, Barbara Streisand will tell the world she is going to leave the country. She means it this time. She's leaving right after the new pool is put in and she has a chance to try it out. Then she is definitely going.




GOOD POINT
You are so right. I can't believe how naive the mainstream media think the public is. Every time they bring up the fact that we should have never gone into Iraq because there were no WMDs found, my blood just boils. We liberated a country that was under a very cruel dictator. We should be proud of ourselves. We have nothing to be ashamed. Who can forget the pictures of the Iraqis voting in their first democratic-type election? That alone makes it worth it.

dims, media, Oblaba will never get it
Bottom line is these three invested in defeat in war, in the economy (spending on environment while blocking drilling) and for political gain in the 21st century and lost all credibility by not reporting the positives and compounding the negatives by making up the facts if there were none. Americans have slowly become aware of these facts that all the rest of us have known for sometime and are not going to let them get away with it anymore. If they tried to move to the middle now we will recognize it for what it is. A con job of the highest magnitude.

The Democratic Convention
I said a few days ago that I was really looking forward to the Democratic Party convention. But after a couple of minutes of listening to Nancy Pelosi, I HAD to turn off the sound: the needle on my crap detector was straining so hard at the upper limit possible that I thought it was going to explode!

Now I hear Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg paying tribute to her uncle Ted by saying how the source of the inspiration of his life is how he has fought for ordinary Americans. Would any of these "ordinary Americans" include the Kopechne family, per chance?

MainStreamMedia in Obama Tank
I am prepared for the media to lean to liberal, I mean "progressive", "centrist" candidates, but I have been both surprised and disturbed by the unprecedented extent to which the Main Stream Media has become virtually a part of Barack Obama's campaign.

So much heat has been generated, the temperature is rising in newsrooms and front offices in medialand. They may tone things down a bit after 2008, but they are too heavily invested this year. The media will continue to pull out all stops to elect Barack Obama President. If nothing else, it's a matter of ego now--they have to win, no matter what.

But just as the media can't give up their prejudicial stance in the presidential race, those who disagree have to pour the heat on, and on, and on, until December.

The media needs major discrediting, and I think we can do it. Beating Obama will be a great beginning.

Liberals
are ever the useful idiots for our enemies as ever. A great many of them are brainwashed ignoramus', others are tied into the benefits they don't have to work for but for the educated, upper class ones, there is a much more devious agenda. Too bad this didn't occur 100 years ago as they would be taken out back and thrown out with the rest of the garbage.

Too funny!!!
James Carville is moaning and groaning over the wasted first night of the convention. Sometimes you ought to watch CNN for a laugh. Poor James is getting the vapors!

Obama Attacks First Amendment
Posted by shadowlover65-68 on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 12:47:34 AM
In the opening rounds of the First Amendment right to a free press Obama has threatened Sinclair Broadcasting with economic boycott and protests at their locations. He has threatened to have the Justice Department "Investigate" their running of an anti Obama ad connecting Obama to Ayers. He has intimidated FOX and others already. I suggest the MSM get ready because they will be next if they don't do as Obama tells them. The "Justice Department" would better serve the American people by investigating the democratic leadership under Title 18,Part 1,Chapter 115,Sec.2385. Particularly the last three paragraphs. They can start by looking at the FEC campaign contributions by unemployed foreigners, foreign contributions and contributions by bundlers and others with potential ties to known terrorist organizations

POTUS with training wheels

Libs are doing their level best to foist a pretend big brain who never matured out of his juvenile college marxism onto the American people. His only "credentials" are pigmented skin and ability to read a teleprompter convincingly. The would-be Messiah despises the country he aspires to lead and was allergic to its flag until he realized he'd get more votes by wearing it. He has abandonment issues after being deserted by his half Kenyan black, half Arab father. That makes Carwreck only a quarter black, a quarter Arab and half white. He's passing for black on a quarter tank of gas and shows no appreciation for the white relatives who did not desert him.

He's a sleazy product of the Chicago Democrat machine who attended a black supremacist church for twenty years. He is whipped by his wife who has an even bigger hate-on for whitey and the USA than he does and whose lame thesis at her ivy league university was on how difficult it was to be a black woman at Princeton. Did she get and Affirmative Action "A" for that whine?

Orgama has a genius for self promotion but in every position on his CV he achieved nothing substantive. Each position was treated merely as the stepping stone for the next.
His inner circle are all people who hate America.

The lefties want to hand the keys to the family car to a novice who hasn't even driven to the corner grocery store and thinks he can talk his way across a ten lane superhighway.

In medicine, they say the most dangerous doctor is not the one who doesn't know something, because he can always get help. It's the guy who doesn't know that he doesn't know. That's Orgama.

What else is new?
The public has been feasting on leftist propaganda for so long, they can no longer digest the truth. But the truth is, whatever the sins of the MSM, we did not have a reason to be in Iraq and Bush had no right under the Constitution to conduct this "war" as he has.

What if we had responsible, intelligent and principled reporting during this time? Would we have been apprised of the shameful manipulation of the investigation into 9/11? Would there have been an informed public as to the complete fabrication of motivation for these hostilities?

We have been duped, but sometimes pundits are too short-sighted to recognize that Bush and his "enemies" are two sides of the same coin. After all, Pelosi has stated that impeachment is "off the table". Does that sound like someone in the enemy camp?

the same is true of Obama and McCain. These two choices for President offer no substantial difference. Especially when you consider the self-righteous hypocrisy that has always identified McCain. His supposed conversion to what passes for conservatism these days is merely a feint to distract and deceive. If either of these two takes power, America as we know it ceases to exist.

Ditto Kindel in Florida
In spite of the National Enquirer style reporting of the MSM and Obama's Self-Proclaimed Saint Hood, Obama and the MSM have lost all credibility in the eyes of the Silent Majority.

The leftists in this country have who have controlled the U.S. Congress for quite sometime now, have totally lost touch with the hearts and minds of mainstream America, who go out and work for a living each day.

The Elitist left are so arrogant that they now believe if they "say it", it makes it true. The propagandists and psychological warfare experts who manage the Obama Campaign and the MSM, believe in the old Hitler adage that said, "The Bigger The Lie We Tell, The More the Masses Will Believe It." That worked for Hitler, but that was in the day of Radio, Train Rides making speeches off the caboose, and newspapers, but only after Hitler had silenced his detractors such as those who were exposing him, by murdering or imprisoning them. After a while, the public became terrified of Not Believing the Big Lies, so had to pretend they did for self-preservation.

The MSM and the DNC have not yet started sending out the Gestapo To Silence Opposition, and we, the Mainstream Americans who make this country work, will not allow it. Doublespeak does not work with folks who realize that anything they hear from OBAMA, THE DNC, and THE MSM, is a Big Lie, and you can, in fact, reverse anything they say, to find the truth.

People used to read the National Enquirer for it's comical entertainment value, but only very ignorant and uninformed people actually believed it.

Ditto Retired Geek
Most Excellent Post Retired Geek.

All readers up to this point, go back a few frames and read Retired Geek's explanation of Rationalization and Principles that some use to justify a third party vote or a stay at home attitude in this election.

If you love this country and what it stands for, you cannot sit on the sidelines and not vote, or throw your vote away on a third party. A Non-Vote or Third Party Vote This Time Around is a Vote For Obama and His DNC Handlers and America's Enemies who own Obama, and are the one's who Pull His Strings.

Greyhawk
I think you are dead wrong. In fact, so many otherwise intelligent people are being drawn in by this farce of a campaign that I am at a loss to understand how you can't see.

EVERYONE should vote third party. The MSM and the power elite need to know that they can't foist their substandard choices on us anymore. This is all a charade.
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