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Saturday, May 02, 2009
Doug Giles :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Obama Doctrine: The Castrated States of America
by Doug Giles
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In just 100 days Obama has moved us from a war footing to a wuss footing. Yes sir, from a foreign policy/national defense standpoint, Barack is making Jimmy Carter look like a full-on badass. The President is dead set on taking off our rowdy body armor and replacing it with a petite glittered bustier; he’s insisting that our General Pattons become generally passive. A one-eyed, myopic circus freak can see this.

Yep, forget the G.I. Joe, Johnny Get Your Gun image America used to tout. Obama would rather us morph into a chatty Jiminy Glick before those who want us dead.

You just know Osama and his boys are in some Pakistani cave smoking a hookah piled high with blonde Lebanese hash as they praise Allah and laugh their butts off at how stupid and soft we’ve become in just a few months while they plot their next “manmade disaster,” as Janet Napolitano would call it.

I’m certain that this recent transition from bold to bland is making all the “progressives” feel smarmy as they imagine in their warm and fuzzy heart of hearts that they have just climbed up a couple rungs on the evolutionary ladder.

However, no matter how chuffed the daft Left feels about our metamorphosis from strength to slop, millions of implacable Muslims and rogue dictators around the planet will continue to abhor us regardless of whether or not we go metrosexual. They do not believe in evolving and are currently fetching some C4 to blow up the ladder the Left pretends we are ascending.

Can you say, naïve? I knew you could.

Conservative commentators are taking Obama to task, stating that Barack is putting us in a pre-9/11 mindset. A pre-9/11 mindset? I think you boys and girls are being too nice. Forget pre-9/11 . . . this is pre-7/11. And from a security standpoint, sooner or later his policies are going to make life in the US, let’s say, really inconvenient.

Now, should Charlie Gibson ever interview you non-Kool Aid swillers on TV and in the course of the interview lower his tortoise shell reading glasses and contemptuously ask you with that oleaginous look on his face, “So, Mr. or Ms. Conservative, exactly what is the Obama Doctrine?” From what BHO has said and done in the last 100 daze, you can tell Chuck’s tacky backside it’s this: The Obama Doctrine is the systematic emasculation of those aspects and entities that, heretofore, have kept us safe. It is the politically correct castration of our nation’s cojones, or tomatoes, or testicles or whatever you want to call ‘em.

Yes, according to our Gelding-In-Chief, everything is our fault, our strongest allies are to be dissed, bows are to be given to Saudi Kings, high fives go to Hugo, Ahmadinejad gets a bromance vid from BHO via YouTube, and talks are conducted with Cuba about burning a Cohiba with the Castro brothers. In addition, Obama’s administration says Israel is the pain in the middle east, the US should throw billions at rogue nations, we ought to nuke our nukes . . . all the while blaming everything on GW, telling the world Islam doesn’t spawn terrorists, and forbidding our interrogators to interrogate those who wish us dead. What’s next, BHO? A détente with el Diablo?

Yeah, what I’ve deduced from Obama’s teleprompter is this: The Obama Doctrine is, essentially, that America sucks. Everything is our fault. And to go forward, we must castrate everything that has kept us secure, because, y’know, we wouldn’t want to continue to be safe and strong anymore, right?

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Barack Obama
Really chaps my hide.

ObaMessiah's stratagem about ILLEGALS


Watch the Chosen One press for Scamnesty shortly using the hackneyed, disingenuous line, "bringing people out of the shadows," under the guise of getting ILLEGALS to help fight drug cartels-- that is like treating the leukemia patient with an injection of cancer cells so he won't die of leukemia!

As a dedicated soldier in the fight to save America from myopic, beleaguered acceptance of the ILLEGAL invasion, I surely appreciate the frustration of the majority of Americans (70%+) with quisling politicians.

The left KNOWS that ILLEGALS will vote 95% for big entitlement guvment, which explains why the ObaMessiah has stopped construction of the border fence, which was well under way, and working.

HOWEVER, the fight is NOT lost!!!
We stopped Kennedy-McCain Scamnesty, then killed the disingenuous "Dream Act," a liberal gambit to give ILLEGALS a free community college education and thence a path to citizenship, and blue state N.Y. stanched the governor Spitzer's scheme to give ILLEGALS licenses, which 77% of Americans oppose per Rasmussen (because licenses are a step toward voting and scamnesty).

Join the fight, Middle America to save YOUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!

The BEST group to assist you is Numbers USA... several senators agreed that they were the group most responsible for stanching Kennedy-McQuisling Scamnesty:

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/

They have targeted e-mails and messages for Congress, OR you can contact Congress directly at the official sites right here:

http://www.congressmerge.com/

BOOKMARK it, and rattle those cages in Congress often! Save YOUR country before it is too late!

Blue dog Çrats (e.g., Heath Shuler) are already starting to resist the ObaMessiah and the hard left-- hope is NOT lost, BUT it WILL require dedication from Middle America!

Tammy
I have noticed you take great interest in the word castration.
Care to tell us why?

Never mind, I couldn't care less

Tammy
Your response is typical of what I experience when I present liberals with facts and logical arguments.

Rather than respond to the argument presented, the liberal makes an ad hominem attack.

Congress considering scamnesty-- again
Congress is holding hearings to work toward a path to scamnesty which had been rejected several times over the past couple of years despite HUGE lobbying by the Conspiracy Of Evil (see post to follow).

Here is the actual committee in the Senate NOW holding hearings... you can contact them EASILY by phone, e-mail, etc., at their official contact sites shown just below:

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/cgi-bin/newcommittee. cgi?site=congressmerge<=&commcode=sjudiciary_immigratio n

Find your Senators and Congressmen (and others)... BOOKMARK IT! :

http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

Tell them that you oppose any semblance of amnesty...that you support the SAVE Act... that there should be NO connection between working here ILLEGALLY and a path to citizenship...that it is CRIMINAL to speak of a path to citizenship even as 10% of Americans are unemployed...

And these are the WRONG type of immigrants (poor and ignorant... future social service dependents) for today's advanced service economy in America. We need SOME of the educated and skilled, BUT they should come here LEGALLY.

The Conspiracy of Evil

The biggest challenge to stopping ILLEGAL aliens is that the money and organization (hence power) is mainly on the pro-ILLEGAL side. The pro-ILLEGAL forces include an unlikely, strange bedfellow alliance between groups which want to USE them in different ways--> the Conspiracy Of Evil.

Miscreant employers obviously simply want to exploit their labor-- never mind the myriad, egregious socio-economic problems they foist on America... hence, their all-in costs to society are immense and snowballing. Furthermore, the "savings" to miscreant employers are pocketed by them --> your hotel room or head of lettuce is NO cheaper to YOU.

The PC left wants to get ILLEGALS voting and seize permanent control for leftist "elites" via yet more inexorable big entitlement government... power flows to statist 'Crats/the left when YOUR tax $ flows to Washington. Try to find a liberal who does not really favor scamnesty, while feigning talk about enforcement first.

The scandal-plagued Catholic Church needs replacement bodies for the pews; and ILLEGALS can put more in the collection plates in America than in Mexico... the Church still has mega-millions to pay out for priest perversion (after deciding to forgive each priest one act of perversion-- Jesus!):

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jul/15/local/me-priests15

Ethnocentric Hispanic groups really do want an effective Reconquista, so they hide behind claims of racism and pleas for PC multiculturalism and one world, NWO kumbaya.

http://www.illegalaliens.us/aztlan.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/mexico_immigration/2007/09 /28/36496.html?s=al&promo_code=3A98-1
http://www.libertygunrights.com/NAUFactSheet.pdf

Finally, the remote elites, including the liberal MSM, do not see what all the fuss is about. Besides, they LIKE their cheap ILLEGAL maids and yard-workers, and THEIR children will not have to go to schools enervated by "those people."

"Conservative commentators are taking

Obama to task...."

But not nearly enough!!!

Yeah, one of the first clues is that Sarkozy has called Obozo naive... and that was just for starters!


agree about liberal braying
Liberals love to bleat "racist," "fascist," etc., when they cannot counter the logic and facts... and they quickly resort to ad hominem/calumny as their disingenuous subterfuge.

talent scout: Tammy apparently has a

great interest in a number of things we'd be far better off not knowing about...


Right
If George W. Bush was a cowboy, the Barack Hussein Obama is a ballerina - complete with pointy shoes and a frilly tutu.

My apologies to ballerinas everywhere.

castrating border security
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/napolitano_illegals_crim e/2009/04/22/205948.html?s=al&promo_code=7E6E-1

Homeland Security head dismisses ILLEGAL aliens?!

Our woman in charge of enforcing the border does not consider it really a crime to jump same and work here ILLEGALLY ( though that requires identity and document fraud, and often identity theft and tax fraud)-- swell!

"Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano stunned many listeners during an appearance on CNN when she asserted that illegal immigration is really not a crime"

Liberals only fathom that they see crimes when it suits their ends-- such as possessing guns. Over 90% of serious crimes are committed by the same repeat offenders who represent less than 10% of those ever imprisoned... yet the libs on parole boards insist upon letting them (the most dangerous of the inmates) out also, but liberals see availability of guns as the real problem. Hmmm.

And those Mexican drug lords would not be killing thousands if we did not sell them guns-- never mind that thy can get guns all over the place-- our "ally" Israel will sell them weapons in a New York minute.

Similarly, ILLEGAL aliens are about 3x as likely to commit serious crimes as the general population, but especially in "sanctuary cities" they are often turned loose.

Yessir-- change we can believe in!

Think about the mind set of a liberal
Who comes to TH just to post nonsense, like Tammy did on this one.

No comment to reason, to communicate, for understanding or any such reason.

She comes to ask a stupid childish question.

Think about what sort of mind and person will come on threads to do such as that, and do it as insulting as her mind can dream up and think she is clever, a true idiot.

I wish we all could ignore such as Tammy, including myself and go ahead and post your thoughts about the article or something it brings up.

These trolls like Tammy are not worth the time to reply to.

There is no such a thing as a tolerant liberal, or a thinking one, kool-aide drinking idiots who all march to the same drum beat from their dear leader, who is the enemy of everything I believe in.

Everyone needs to sign the demand Obama prove his eligibilty, he refuses and can only mean he is ineligible.

We cannot let him get by with committing fraud on this country as he is doing.

Just seeing the name Tammy
Here, is more than I want to see, Anne.



Still clinging ...eh?
As President Obama said during the election campaign:

"So it’s not surprising then that they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

This about sums up Giles' weekly rant against Barack Hussein Obama and his winning team.

President Obama is now leading the United States away from the failed policies of Bush and the neocons.

Policies that failed, repeat failed, to capture one Osama Bin Laden; failed to defeat Al Qaeda, failed to make the world a safer place; failed to give us a strong economy ...

Giles and the far right posters are still have the frontiersman mentality of 300 years ago.

Unfortunately for them the world has changed for gunslingers.

But wait ... there is still SPACE ...the final frontier!

Beam them up Scotty ... every last one of these Far Right Clingons ... at warp speed too!

Barack Obama's Resume -Part One
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.

An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.

But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor;

he speaks in accents familiar to his victims and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation,

he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear."

Cicero Marcus Tullius
106-43 BC

Between the Obama administration, MoveOn.org, Media Matters, the entire Liberal Left, and the Mainstream Media, there is a full court press to dismantle the fundamentals of our society and the security apparatus of the United States.

Now even feminist are attacking Carrie Prejan instead of defending her and when confronted with their hypocrisy they merely rationalize it away the way they did with Sarah Palin.

The CIA has ads on television for employement opportunities even as the rest of the country is laying off...after all, who in their right mind wouldn't feel like Obama's going to sell them out like he did Poland and the Czech Republic.

Barack Obama's Resume - Part Two
Fascism is when the State and Corporations/Industry are one, united under a single party...sound familar of late.

David Souter is only 69 years old and in perfect health, yet nobody has asked why he's retiring so young from the Supreme Court.

The Community Organizer in Chief goes after private citizens who oppose him but pretends not understand why the Tea Party movement has blossomed.

These things are happening in little snippets, yet taken together they represent a grave danger to our country and it's time we really ought to fight back.

Every day the tension grows a little more and one day it's going to let loose.

Remember the motto of the Boy Scouts of America (right-wing extremist's)...Be Prepared.

Because Tammy
me deah, he it telling it like it is, you deah leadah, is a girly man, a wimp, a wuss and like all progressives a flaming coward.
And I can absolutely predict that when (as esxperts have been warning us since 2001) not IF but when his wonderful friends who want us all dead hit us, the first ones that will be whining and running around in circles will be people like you. You are all so snarky about water boarding being torture, feeling ever so superior when you support the torture and execution of the least among us, preborn babies and those who happen to survive induce labor abortions. So can you stupid remarks, you and you president have put MY kids and MY grandkids in harms way with your selfishness and destroying their future.

oracle1

I saw an interview the other day where one of the leaders of a union said that serving the union members were not the union's main responsibility; instead, he raising union revenues were its primary concern. The official went on to say that the union supported amnesty because it could get more members and raise more money.

American workers be damned.

One more conservtive barking none-sense!
This guy is so dumb that he claims we were safe, before Obama! Our borders do not really exist anymore and neither are the laws of immigration enforced, hence the Towers came tumbling down, that is what this ignorant claims as having been safe?

Yes, as the FBI reported that now around 900,000 gang members basically roam free in America with about 200,000 added during the last few years while George W., was messing around in faraway pieces of sand. Most of this criminals are illegals, killing Americans, raping women, and most certainly selling illegal drugs to fund their operations.

Boy oh boy! This so called conservative claims that before Obama America was safe! So, again why did he and all the conservatives not go for Ron Paul, in as much as he wanted to change things in America according to the Constitution and all the many wise words the Founding Fathers left for America to follow.

The Founding Fathers had they risen during the reign of Emperor and King that of George W., they most likely would have ended up in Guantanomo!

Yes, I as a legal immigran of 53+ years I am at peace with muself for having cast my vote for Ron Pual, in s much as I basically heard the Founding Fathers speaking! Yes, no sooner did I set foot in America I tried to learn as much as possible and as soon as possible, as to why America was born, hence my comment.

In closing, I say to born Americans, you have betrayed the Founding Fathers. America is here today because of an evil Empire that of the British, so why is America now in love with Imperialism?

Good luck America! There is still time, but it is getting late! Obama is doing nothing but eating up the vomit left by George W. Ron Paul would have picked up where Ronald Reagan left off! No question!

Mr Giles
Yeah we wanna fight stupid wars all the time. Write something worth a read next time. You are a wuss. The terrorizers don't care. Listen to Ron Paul.

Obama playing Russian Roulette...
...All we need is an attack anywhere near what 9/11 was,and he will be out of office.We had no attacks after 9/11 and Bush has to be given credit for that along with his tactics,waterboarding or whatever.

For Obama to put his presidency on the line by trusting the radical Muslims (who are not afraid to die for what they believe in)to NOT attack our country is really shooting craps with his future.

Good luck,America.

Ron Paul...
..."America was responsible for 9/11 due to our foreign policy after WWII".

Rudy bitched slapped him for that statement and he has been toast ever since!

St.Denis-Denise
You are exactly right about union hierarcy.They get their cut from the locals regarless of whether they are working or notIn the construction trades to fulfil the union bosses wishes they will overload the locals,and as soon as these guys get laid off,the will become nonuniom pick-up contractors.I know,because I have seen it happen.

Joel
Ron Paul did not say "WE". There is a difference, a VAST difference between "We the people" and the political class. It seems to me that very few people understand that.

Picking Obama Apart., One Racist Item at
Here's a black Republican, who tells it like it is! http://theblacksphere.blogspot.com/2009/04/govt-bigger-and -blacker.html

FUNNY and witty all in one!

islam
islam does not need a reason to attack the United States,it is all in their koran.nobama now has given them the opportunity to do so.

What Did You Expect?
Born somewhere to some black man who sired him and raised Muslim with Socialist, Communist, Black Separatist/Supremacist, terrorist close friends, co-workers and mentors what did you expect from Obama other than what he has done?

Obama ran a racist campaign based on "hope for change." That sort of indicates he does not like the United States of America very much.

The two biographical books bearing his name and his "campaign rhetoric" as he has called it reveal a lot about Obama. In one of the books - The Audacity of Hope, Obama says in a peculiar context to most Americans, "I will stand with the Muslims," p. 261.

The title of that book is taken from one of Jeremiah Wright's anti-U.S., Black Supremacist rants in the Trinity United Church of Christ - Chicago. The Church honored W.E.B. DuBois, a black Communst, and Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, who dubbed Obama the Messiah.

All of these facts only touch, not even scratch, the surface of Obama's "exotic background" as he attempted to explain away his life on p. 120 of The Audacity.

Some of us had a few clues Obama was not right for America, but not enough of us. All of us are paying already and will pay more dearly for the mistakes of others in judging Obama. If Obama is allowed to continue in this Error of Obamanation without proof of his eligibility and also keeping secret his campaign finance records all of us deserve exactly how Obama screws us.

tammy, nee tommy
seems tammy regrets his operation that changed him from he to it.

Let's put your blathering to a test
Did Obama order snipers to shoot pirates or not?

Has Obama ordered a redirection of our military to fight terrorism or not?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21077.html

Has Obama ordered our military to come up with a more intensive plan for Afghanistan or not?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21549.html

Has Obama given Gates proper authority to do his job or not?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/21123.html

http://www.defenselink.mil/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=13 41
Are our troops still fighting for their country, and taking orders from our Commander in Chief or not?
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0409/20989.html

Gates is reshaping our national effort from within the Pentagon, and Obama is supporting the new direction. That is leadership.

Give me explicit examples of failure to lead, with sincere, rational justification.

Do you expect me to disdain my Commander in Chief because you say so? Do you want to smear your Commander in Chief without citing sources like Giles? Do any of you care what a source of real information has to offer?

When I don't see source links, it's my opinion that the readers and writers of a thread are mindlessly following, like sheep, without intelllectual capacity. That suits some who self proclaim their intelligence and how they are the smartest voices. It helps them to get paid and find buyers for their merchandise.

Be a good consumer and buy a few dozen tee-shirts, hats, bumper stickers and make sure you pay to hear someone speak their opinions to you.

Joel-De_NV #28: 96% RIGHT! :-)

"I think that Dr. Paul is right on almost every domestic issue, and would have voted for him, right up until he stated that we brought 9\11 on ourselves."

Not sure that I would have voted for him, because the media really didn't give the others, ie Hunter, etc., any exposure so we knew where they were on many issues.

However, now we have Obozo who is wrecking our country.



Joel in NV
Joel with the exception of one error you understand Islam, and I admire your forthright, Biblical, head-screwed-on-straight style. The error is in the order of the Sura in the Qur’an. The Sura are arranged generally from longest to shortest without regard to chronology, a flowing story or any other arrangement with which we westerners are familiar.
I want to meet you. We need to talk, maybe collaborate on some work teaching others about Islam. How can we arrange a meeting or initial telephone talk? Perhaps Townhall or Mr. Giles can connect us without revealing publicly or email addresses or telephone numbers. I will certainly give Townhall or Mr. Giles permission to release my email address to you.
Trust me, I am with you on your understanding of Islam and your bold if frightening solution to those who will have us all converted, in the subjugation of Dhimmi, or murdered. I have many posts to this site including the one today, and I have posted to my Blog here an article analyzing Obama. On our initial contact I have other writings to share with you.

a clear conflict of interest
re:
"St. Denis a/k/a Denise Location: LA

Date: May 3, 2009 - 2:29 AM EST

oracle 1

I saw an interview the other day where one of the leaders of a union said that serving the union members were not the union's main responsibility; instead, he raising union revenues were its primary concern. The official went on to say that the union supported amnesty because it could get more members and raise more money.

American workers be damned."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Union influence has been fading for many years (they kept killing the golden geese-- see autos, steel, textiles) EXCEPT in one area-- among guvment workers where their profligate costs can simply be forced upon taxpayers. Consider teachers, postal workers, and civil servants-- how are those working out for you as a taxpayer value? They make 40% more than private workers:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace/2009-04-09-compensa tion_N.htm

There is a schism between union rank and file and their duplicitous, sometimes corrupt leadership vis-a-vis ILLEGAL aliens. The members correctly see ILLEGALS as a threat to them AND to America.

My post at 10:41 last night explains why labor leaders (part of the remote ëlites") want ILLEGAL aliens here--> $ and power for THEMSELVES-- the country and their American union members be dammed, indeed.

Rick_MN #37: "Did Obama order snipers to
shoot pirates or not?"

NOT!


This is (in part) what I received from a military friend (.mil email addr) umlike what you get from the MSM.

"And, let me comment on time-late: In that the SEAL's quick response-- departing ready-alert in less than 4 hours from Norfolk-- supposedly surprised POTUS's staff, whereas President Obama was miffed not to get his "cops" there before the Navy. HE REPORTEDLY QUESTIONED HIS STAFF, "WILL 'MY' FBI PEOPLE GET THERE BEFORE THE NAVY DOES?"

"It took the FBI almost 12 hours to put together a team and get them packed-up-- for an "at sea" rescue. The FBI was trying to tell him that they are not practiced to do this-- Navy SEALs are. BUT, BHO WANTED THE FBI THERE "TO HELP," THAT IS, CARRY OUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S (HIS) ORDERS TO NEGOTIATE THE RELEASE OF CAPTAIN PHILLIPS PEACEFULLY-- BECAUSE APPARENTLY HE DOESN'T TRUST G! W'S MILITARY TO CARRY OUT HIS "POLITICAL GUIDANCE." The flight of the FBI's passenger jet took a little less than 14 hours at 500-some knots to get to Djibouti. BOXER'S helos picked them up and transported them out to the ship. The Navy SEALs were already there, staged, and ready to act by the time POTUS's FBI arrived on board later that evening. NOTABLY, THE FIRST REQUEST BY THE OSC (ON SCENE COMMANDER) THAT EARLY FRIDAY MORNING TO TAKE THEM OUT AND SAVE CAPTAIN PHILLIPS WAS DENIED, TO WIT: "NO, WAIT UNTIL 'MY' FBI PEOPLE GET THERE."


"FBI snipers had never practiced shooting from a rolling, pitching, yawing, surging, swaying, heaving platform-- and, target-- such as a ship and a lifeboat on the high seas...."


It was Obozo's arrogance, narcissism, and ineptitude that KEPT Capt. Phillips in "IMMINENT DANGER" for FIVE DAYS!

Ron Paul advocates civil unrest.
What is it with you folk who are Ok with fighting against your own country?

What I read into Saul and Ronald are subverssive ideological issues for civil unrest. That's what lies under the Ron Paul banner. It carries over into Beck and it's running rampant across the nation.

Those in it stir each others frenzy, fueling a fire that doesn't need exist.

You're going down the path that McVey chose, and he murdered children with all the others. Do you think that's OK? Does murdering children like a terrorist bomber appeal to you?


civil unrest
Tell MLK that civil unrest is fighting against his own country

Anne, the SEALS take orders from Obama.
Obama is their Commander in Chief.

If your friend and you do not understand that, consider the source of what you claim.

By the way, what source can you show that proves Obama was expecting the FBI to do what he sent the SEALS to do?

MLK didn't promote or use civil unrest.
His was peaceful marches, that were attacked by white police, etc...


He was murdered by a white man, for speaking against racism and the hope he had for his children and all our children.

That bothers you so much?

MSM and ObaMessiah (to Anne)
It is truly STUNNING how the MSM is in the tank for the ObaMessiah. A simple example-- they dwell on his supposed unbridled popularity with the public.

The reality? His favorable ratings are about the same as Dubya's at the same point (and many thought that he was illegitimate!), but his disapproval rating (29%) is HIGHER!

That tingle might be running up the legs of the leftist media (TIME- Joe Klein, NYT, NBC, CBS, ABC, Wash. Post) but Middle America is already beset with angst about the spending and growth of guvment.

I am sick that the UAW is being propped up with HUGE taxpayer dollars... that is like giving the addict his drugs rather than having an intervention (bankruptcy) and insist on treatment-- adjustment to what non-UAW workers at Toyota and Honda earn right here in America... and they line up for those jobs to make 1/2 as much!

Rick
Did Obama bow to the Saudi King or not?

Did Obama refuse to meet with Israel's prime minister or not?

Did Obama sit through Chavez's bashing of America or not?

Didn't it take two tries and four days before Obama finally gave the order for the Navy Seals to take out the pirates? And what happened immediately after the weak and indecisive action on Obama's part? More piracy.

All this is well-documented by the liberal media. Well, except for the Saudi King. You'd be hard-pressed to find any news about that. Kissing the Saudi King's assets isn't something that plays well in Middle America. Even Obama knows that.

I have plenty of other questions for you regarding our so-called commander in chief, but maybe you ought to go Google the answers to these, then wean yourself off the Kool-Aid and open your eyes.

While you're at it, ask yourself why sites like the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post don't allow dissenting opinion but here you get to say whatever you want, even if you look like a moron. Dissenting opinion interferes with brainwashing because it can cause the victim to think, not a good thing to those intent on keeping you mindless and marching like good soldiers right over the cliff.


Rick_MN #37: Trouncing Cont...

"Did Obama order snipers to shoot pirates or not?" NOT! See #41 :-)

"Has Obama ordered a redirection of our military to fight terrorism or not?"

Right! Totally unprepared! The guys are "hot-cotten'" it.. Three guys to a cot, sleeping in shifts. Complete disorganization.

Again, information directly from military and two security consultants who are THERE.

"Has Obama ordered our military to come up with a more intensive plan for Afghanistan or not?"

Copy Petraeus after he criticized Petraeus' plan for Iraq!

"Has Obama given Gates proper authority to do his job or not?"

Who knows?

"Are our troops still fighting for their country, and taking orders from our Commander in Chief or not?"

Big deal! What's your point?

"Gates is reshaping our national effort from within the Pentagon, and Obama is supporting the new direction. That is leadership."

That is leadership???????

"Give me explicit examples of failure to lead, with sincere, rational justification."

We only have 2000 characters! But see #41 and responses above! :-)

"Do you expect me to disdain my Commander in Chief because you say so?"

Just be realistic!

"Do you want to smear your Commander in Chief without citing sources like Giles?"

Got plenty of sources ...

"Do any of you care what a source of real information has to offer?"

See #41 and responses above! :-)

"When I don't see source links, it's my opinion that the readers and writers of a thread are mindlessly following, like sheep, without intelllectual capacity."

What YOU really need to worry about is "AOADS....ACUTE Obama Adoration Derangement Syndrome.

Rick_MN: Your "AOADS"

ACUTE Obama Adoration Derangement Syndrome...

has rendered you brain dead!

This is an email I received from a friend... who is a Navy wife... It was also uploaded to the net... shorter version... YOU might understand it.

Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking
why
this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following:

1. BHO (Obama) wouldn't authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene
for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE (rules of
engagement) that they couldn't do anything unless the hostage's life was in
"imminent" danger

3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all
sighted
in, but could not fire due to ROE restrictions

4. When the navy RIB (Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat) came under fire as it
approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As
the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them
all dialed in.

5. BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge
CPN (Captain) and SEAL teams

6. Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR (Commander) finally decide they have
the OpArea (Operating Area) and OSC (On-Scene Commander) authority to solely
determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies

7. BHO immediately claims credit for his "daring and decisive" behavior.
As usual with him, it's BS.

Rick in MN - 1
Let’s put your blathering to a test also.
Did Obama order snipers to shoot pirates or not? – NO. The on-scene commander gave the order. Obama dithered for days with Capt. Phillips’ life on the line.
Has Obama ordered a redirection of our military to fight terrorism or not? – NO. Bush had the battle in Iraq won after first decimating the Taliban and al-Qaeda, including Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan. Obama has made the serious blunders that were predicted he would by announcing a withdrawal timeline and set end date in Iraq. Obama has put more troops into Afghanistan into a Dien Bien Phu-like situation with tenuous at best supply lines – an airbase north of Afghanistan lost and Pakistan in jeopardy from the Taliban/al-Qaeda. Further Obama is allowing Iran and N. Korea to press forward with nuclear weapon launch capability in favor of more useless “negotiating.”
Has Obama given Gates proper authority to do his job or not? – Who knows? Not you. Gates has said Iran will get nuclear weapons regardless of an Israeli pre-emptive strike or not. Gates is not well regarded as an effective advocate of a strong military for national defense. Obama is responsible among other things for misuse of military assets by his Statue of Liberty/Hudson River publicity stunt flyby of an Air Force 747 and F-16.
Are our troops still fighting for their country, and taking orders from our Commander in Chief or not? – Not as much as you might imagine nor have they ever been fighting for our/ their country as you put it. Military members of various ranks and duty status have challenged Obama’s authority to issue legal, lawful orders as CINC without proof of his eligibility. Those numbers are growing as well as the lawsuits in about ¾ of our states challenging Obama’s eligibility. The military members are protected by the Uniform Code of Military Justice from punitive prosecution for their challenges to Obama’s authority. (cont.)

Rick in MN - 2
Your reshaping and leadership contentions are opinions only with no qualifications of yours provided to support your opinions; so without merit. There is not enough space on this whole site to detail Obama’s failures at leadership, but his selections of staff and Cabinet appointments of corrupt, tax-evaders and a SecDHS who sticks her feet-in-her-mouth regularly with no significant consequences for her show lack of leadership by Obama. You must agree also Biden is a bit out of control. Obama begged NATO leaders for more combat troops for Afghanistan. He got a kiss and a promise of 500 noncombatant trainers and election watchers. Obama could ask Jimmy Carter to do the latter. Carter enjoys doing that. And our allies are pulling out of combat in Afghanistan and Iraq, the latter when Obama is responsible for an increase in al-Qaeda attacks and U.S. casualties.
Your Obama as CINC questions are answered above. Mr. Giles has well-known qualifications for his facts and opinions; you do not. A source of information, real or not, is inadequate. Multiple sources are far better. If you challenge my sourcing you only reveal your ignorance of what is going on right in front of your blind eyes, deaf ears and being reported in multiple news/opinion sources.

Mindlessly following, like sheep, without intelllectual capacity suit you to a T as a self proclaimed but unintelligent ignoramus as Chavez called Obama joining other county leaders in ridiculing Obama as he “restores U.S. prestige.” Your voice is not at all smart. You are daft if you believe Mr. Giles or any other professional reporter or writer depends on merchandise sales other than books for their principal income.
Your closing attempt to be cute and facetious reveals you as wise acre unworthy of serious consideration.

Joel-De O_NV; "What do I need to do to

be 100% in your book? ;)"

Absolutely NOTHING! You already ARE 100% in my book! :-)


Joel-De Opresso Liber. . .
You are correct. However, LIBERTY cannot be "asked for". It must be TAKEN, sometimes by other than "peaceful" means. Throughout history, this is the way it has ALWAYS been.
The "tea party" demonstrations are a step in the right direction. Look at how they rattled the obamanites and their (racist) acorn supporters. We ARE doing something right; Independence Day is next. Let's see how the obamanites and their supporters (mainstream media, acorn racists etc.) react to that.

M.L. You answer my questions with questi
with questions. That's deflection tactics 101.

Answer mine.

All your questions I know, and yes he bowed, and he did not refuse to meet Netanyahu he will meet him this month, and he did sit through a speech by Chavez [that blowhard].

I'm not happy with the first and last, but I don't like making a big deal out of the Netanyahu meeting. The meeting is happening.

One note about bowing to the Saudi King, it's traditional courtesy, and not a sign of obedience from a visiting head of state. Chavez is a twit, and Obama got caught up in that. I would have had him not get caught up in it.

M.L. Bushman
Location: MT
Reply # 1
Date: May 3, 2009 - 8:47 AM EST Rick
Did Obama bow to the Saudi King or not?

Did Obama refuse to meet with Israel's prime minister or not?

Did Obama sit through Chavez's bashing of America or not?

As for the Seal snipers. It takes a bit of time to meet logistic requirements, and Obama gave two orders to take out the pirates. I do not think he handled it badly. I do think the situation off Somalia requires a joint response from every navy of every country effected. I also think safe harbors for the pirates need taking out!

the origin of the ghetto mind.
The "reverend" Jesse Jackson, who has love children with at least 2 different women and at least one abortion to his credit, can condem the evil oppressive white man without the liberal media questioning his credibility. Similiarly, "reverend" Al Sharpton can incite riots which result in deaths, without the liberal media questioning his credibility. Then, forgetting that we are a meritocracy, we normalize quotas to mitigate a false guilt for being white. It is as if being white today makes us guilty for slavery, las seen about a century and a half today. We cement this guilt for generations by having white kids write letters of apology to black kids for slavery in school and by generally teaching them that history is the result of the heroic struggle of oppressed minorities against the evil white man. The along comes a "clean and articulate" black man and the nation elects him, even as he makes his surrender first and socialist leanings obvious to the nation during the campaign. It will not lessen our guilt. It will greatly lessen our freedom.

Thank you, American MAN!
Being a woman, I love your manliness. That is exactly what I needed to hear to understand our new pencil-neck pres.
I'm a Swedish-American and my relatives in Sweden man a totally armed locally based Civil Defense system that America doesn't have. We let illegal immigrants who are gangsters terrorize our neighborhoods and don't protect us at home. I'm not saying their system is better, now they are way too politiacally correct, too--but I'm just saying...

Gotta run folks.
Been real.

I'll be back, but likely a new thread.

Who is a terrorist now?

Guess how DHS defines who is a terrorist now?
2nd 'domestic extremism' report includes 'alternative media,' 'tax resisters' in lexicon"


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=96916

"Two weeks before the U.S. Department of Homeland Security penned its controversial report warning against "right-wing extremists" in the United States, it generated a memo defining dozens of additional groups – animal rights activists, black separatists, tax protesters, even worshippers of the Norse god Odin – as potential "threats."

"Though the 'Domestic Extremism Lexicon' was reportedly rescinded almost immediately, Benjamin Sarlin of The Daily Beast recently obtained and published online a copy of the unclassified memo, dated March 26, 2009.

"While many of the groups listed in the lexicon – such as Aryan prison gangs and neo-Nazis – may indeed be widely considered extremists, others will likely take offense at being described as a potential 'threat.'

For example, the memo defines the "tax resistance movement" – also referred to in the report as the tax protest movement or the tax freedom movement – as "groups or individuals who vehemently believe taxes violate their constitutional rights. Among their beliefs are that wages are not income, that paying income taxes is voluntary, and that the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which allowed Congress to levy taxes on income, was not properly ratified."

Cont...

Who is a terrorist now? II

“The report, however, continues in its assessment of tax protesters, asserting that members ‘have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence and terrorism in an attempt to advance their extremist goals.’

“Similarly, the lexicon concludes its definition of 'black separatists' by asserting, 'Such groups or individuals also may embrace radical religious beliefs. Members have been known to advocate or engage in criminal activity and plot acts of violence directed toward local law enforcement in an attempt to advance their extremist goals.'"

Odd Post Giles
Are you upset O isn't having people tortured anymore? How Christain of you. Of course, by 2006, the Cheyne administration saw it was getting them no where and had stopped using waterboarding. But, for those whose minds drift in and out of the 24 hours t.v. drama, in a sort of delusional and evil make believe world, life is scary and they need comfort.

Hey, Taft
Why aren't you throwing any "hug a jihadist" parties? After all, don't you know the world has been changed and all you dimlib dimwits have secured it for posterity? Get the Hollyweirds and all the celibs out and make it official. I'm thinking massive outpourings like when the illegals stormed the cities to demand their rights with Mexican flags. For you guys I'm thinking a flag with Oblaba, Chavez and Castro in some gay pose (Oblaba on bottom) and then we'll get same kind of follow-up march after the leaders see the response, "Get the American flags, stupid!"

daft: STUFF IT!
.

Taft
Odd post yourself.I hope it made sense to someone,but to me it was mindless dribble

The Alien in Chief.......
Our Alien in Chief is what he is: a jive talking, subtle race baiting, redistributionist.

Any disagreements out there among you Oprah-ized Obamabots who believe this slick Chicago-style salesman? (Note: "Chicago-style", he is not from Chicago).

He has gotten around the rule of law and coerced Chrysler shareholders to accept pennies on their dollar of investments in order to placate the UAW and thus assure a steady stream of campaign donations and loyal democrat votes in several mid-western, manufacturing states.

Duh. Does anyone disbute what I just said?


Obama is partly right
Regarding American arrogance (like Joel-De Oppresso Liber's posts and our foreign meddling) Obama is right. The neo-cons' desire to be an Empire is like a busybody neighbor who wants to FORCE you to change your ways. Paul and the 9-11 commisison are also right that it's our foreign meddling that causes Islamic terrorists to attack us. Wouldn't you consider using force to stop your busybody neighbor from forcing you to change your ways? When someone initiates force against you, isn't force in return justifiable? Those who ignore Paul, the 9-11 comission and the terrorists themselves, and use their attacks to attack other countries, are putting us in perpetual war. Our image in the world is suffering and even China has said so. If we can attack foreign countries who did not attack us, then others can attack us too.

Giles seems to want "badass" military intervention in foreign countries too. How about issuing letters of marque and reprisal against those involved in terrorist attacks against the US? The world would see that as justified, but it doesn't see our occupation of Iraq and Afganistan that way. The terrorists' ties to the leadership in these countries is just too tenuous.

Our foreign policy should be non-interventionist and we should lead the world to freedom by example, not by force.

I hope Obama implements a non-interventionist policy instead of saying one thing and doing another (like he seems to do on most everything else). But so far it's no change in foreign policy other than lip service so far.

I also hope voters recognize the dangers of foreign meddling, but so far Republicans want to meddle militarily, and Democrats want to meddle with "foreign assistance" (like Clinton paying North Korea billions not to pursue nuclear weapons which they used to do exactly that).

George Washington was right, our foreign meddling leads to less freedom for us.

Rick: Typically symptomatic of "AOADS"

(ACUTE Obama Adoration Derangement Syndrome)

"One note about bowing to the Saudi King, it's traditional courtesy, and not a sign of obedience from a visiting head of state. Chavez is a twit, and Obama got caught up in that. I would have had him not get caught up in it."


"AOADS" is widely spread... worse than Swine flu.

jax33
I believe, if you want to check, all of daft's posts are mindless dribble.

Re: Dan......
Dan, you sound like a limp-wristed Barry voter, nothing more. "American arrogrance"? Give me a break. The world is a craphole and if the USA goes down (which is Hussein's goal, to take us down a notch or two), the world will suffer from it.

The Alien in Chief is a disgrace. He should never, repeat, never be forgiven for the lies, half-truths and insults he made against our country while overseas. It will come back to haunt him, come election time as well.

France's Sarkozy even said of Oprah's boy, "he has a messiah complex".

Danny boy, get out of your Colorado and find out what the real world is like and especially what Islam is all about. We have been in a virtually state of war with Iran since 1979. We had been in a state of war with Iraq since 1991. We are in a virtual state of war with Hezbollah and Hamas for decades. It has nothing to do with GW Bush. Get over it.

Islam is a religion but also very much, it is a political ideology and one hostile to any non-Islamic society. But thanks to non stop immigration, Islam is using the "migration" of it's people to colonize and transform the West into a partly Islamic society, one sympathetic to Mecca and Medina and now they have a big-eared former moooslim boy in the White House, who is more than a little sympathetic to Islam.




Joel-De O: :-)

"I believe that God wants all of his children to have Life, Liberty, and Property."... or at least the pursuit thereof...

Pretty much what our Founding Fathers had in mind. Yes?

"Just as most children do not appreciate what they are handed, only what they earn,"

What I find very in interesting is the comparisons made by those who have immigrated from Europe; those who had lived under Marxism - Communism, to what they're seeing happening now, right here in America... just since Obozo's coronation.


The Naive President
The problem is that our current President's idealolgy is clouded by his naivity. He doesn't see the reasoning behind our 'enhanced interrogation techniques' because he has never been surrounded by the circumstances that would warrant them. He seems to be more worried about the world's perception of America than he is the security of our nation and the safety of it's citizens.

Joel-De O: Keep an eye out for

Constantine Ivanov who posts periodically.

Constantine survived (opposed to "lived") under Stalin, yet these ignorant liberal children nor only refuse to listen to him, they ridicule him every chance they get.



Liberals hate men
Liberals hate men in general and the alpha male in particular.

jack kemp
it saddens to report that jack kemp has died from cancer. When we need all the voices we can muster to oppose the messiah and his reckless rush to socialism.


Doug...
Per usual, you pretty much nailed the argument. Obama is doing EXACTLY what he said he'd do and EXACTLY what those 60 million or so voters wanted, much to the detriment of our nation. Of course, when one realizes how morally bankrupt we as a nation have become in the span of less than 50 years, how second-class our public schools have become, how leftist our colleges have become and how smitten by form-over-substance we have become, all of this is hardly a surprise.
On the bright side, 56 million said "No, you shouldn't" to this de-Americanization of America, and therein lies our trust. In the highly vaunted "first 100 days" Obama and his cronies have shown themselves to be remarkably inept in many ways, from his foreign apology tour to Biden's continuing blather, to Napolitano's odious memo (shh, it's a secret!), to his playing-up to several dictators. All of this plays well to our enemies, although lefites don't like to admit to having enemies. All of it results in ill for US. When a real crisis comes (not swine-flu) the measure of "the one" will be taken. I suspect it will be reminiscent of the writing on the wall in Daniel 5: 25-28..."mene, mene, tekel, upharsin."

Johnny Get Your Guns
With the worthless Political Leaders in Washington that are selling us out , Johnny better be prepared to fight within our own Borders, because of the stupidity of our leaders to serve and protect , have become nothing but Liberal Crying Cowards. AG Holder said we are a Nation of Cowards, he is part of the Political Spector that are nothing but a bunch of winers. Typical ACLU Lawyers that have no idea what it takes to be a PROUD AMERICAN. American's you better wake the H up NOW and stop what is going on or else we will be destroyed by the incompetence of our Democratic Leaders. They are forcing the Real AMERICAN'S hands , and they dang sure don't want to WAKE UP THE SLEEPING GIANT AGAIN. The real American's are those who have served and protected America for the last 235 years. It is time for our VOICES to be heard or we make total changes in our Gov't and take away their ripping off of American's with their petty stealing, lying, cheating America out of a Future. As far as I'm concern the rest of the World can kiss our assests, because if it wasn't for America they would have squat or their freedoms.

OUR ANTI-HISTORIAN IN CHIEF
If you want to be shocked at just how ignorant our mastermind president is of history click my name and read my piece: Obama, Churchill, Torture and the Mau, Mau Revolt in Kenya.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber

Interesting.

Didn't someone promise to return 'before' the Tribes ran out of places to run to?

So if Israel's demise comes about... who is left to open their borders to them?

Not Europe, not Asia, not Africa, not South America. Not Mexico, nor Canada.

Are we the "last best hope"?

Principal
I've had the same thought regarding the handwriting on the wall.

Anne..did you hear the latest re: eligibility?
Seems the person occupying the White House had
lawyers find ways to get around the natural born
requirement in 2006. This per United States Justice Foundation. Seems like the plot gets
thickerer and thickerer.

Joel..I agree with you that the Founders were inspired by God to write the Constitution..
they started with prayer at Ben Franklins suggestion. And because of that, I don't believe God is going to let us crumble and die, but I also believe He is using this as a means to bring us back to Him. David Wilkerson has
written about a "calamity" that's on the horizen, and that horizon isn't very far off.
And we will all be scared, anyone interested can check it out via World Net Daily, or David's blog.

Fear for our Nation
As I read and listen to all these libs,I wonder how many of them would defend our nation if attacked.My guess is that most of them would grovel to the invaders.

Nothing but contempt
from View from the Right... http://www.amnation.com


Clown or catastrophe? How the French government views Obama


An official of the French military intelligence agency tells Jack Wheeler what he and his colleagues think about America's Alien-in-Chief.

100 DAYS OF BEING A LAUGHINGSTOCK IN PARIS
by Jack Wheeler

Paris, France. It is very cool to be a French intel guy. A spectacular meal at a Parisian bistro with $90 entrees and a $200 bottle of Bordeaux? No problem. I'd known this fellow since he got me out of a jam in Sudan years ago. His James Bond days are over, but still, riding a desk for the DGSE--Direction generale de la securite exterieure (General Directorate for External Security), France's military intel agency--in Paris has its decided benefits.

One of them is not being infected with Obamamania. "My agency considers him a joke," he confides. "Every day there is some fresh lunacy that we cannot believe. Mr. Bush would often make us angry. But at this man we just laugh."

"In truth, it also makes us sad," he continued. "French resentment towards America is strong, so being able to laugh at your country feels good. But it is such a sad and strange thing to see America--America The Great!--do something so crazy as to elect this ridiculous man."

"There are a lot of people convinced he is a traitor who hates America and is actively determined to destroy it. Any opinion on that?"

He didn't shrug at this. After a long slow sip of wine, he mused, "I would not go that far. Many of his actions, however, are very puzzling because they are so counter-productive regarding America's best interests. There seems to be a consistent pattern in that direction."

"What does Sarkozy think of him?"

"Nothing but contempt."

Whodda thought??? I NEVER thought I'd

say this, but even that reprobate, womanizing, degenerate Clinton looks almost not so bad next to Obozo...

Note, I'm not saying Clinton looks good, just not so bad.

Just how really BAD does anyone have to be to have Clinton look not so bad?




Barry has a sketchy knowledge of history
I'm something of a WW2 history expert and I can tell you, Barry's knowledge of that era is faulty, to say the least.

It's true, Barry has made a few references to WW2 and in each of them, his knowledge of history is wrong - either fully or in part.

Wow, what a genius he is, the media tell us.

Yeah right.

Barry knows history that he learned from Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and even Screwy Louie Farakhan. Is it any wonder?

Hey, the Middle East already thinks
we're nuts. We're busy killing off our future generation via massive abortion. We let our women run around without burkas. We tell the whole world what we'll do if we capture them. We elect our highest leaders with virtually no significant or relevant experience. We trash candidates who would possibly threaten their cause. We're told not to refer to them as terrorists. This is just too easy for Hamas and the others who hate our guts. They laugh at our leader bowing to them (and by extention, to their way of life), attempting to charm them into submission. They see us as wusses, and unfortunately this is not far from the truth.

Doug Giles--Anger Management Anyone
Wow, the far-right (all that's left--no pun intended) sputters, spits, and spews in with new found irrelevance and hatred.

Unfortunately,, like most citizens, I don't have time nor inclination to join the "debate" that Giles started. Another angry puff piece that would intrigue Freud. No doubt his castration anxiety has been projected as fear of an impotent US. Therapy may help.

Stay angry and irrelevant please. Get out the Teabags again, quite amusing.


Obama doctrine
This Obama doctrine really sucks.The American pride is at stake.The future of holyland is at stake.All Americans should unite and stop this madness.Comeon you could not good and knd to these terrorists.Jesus wouldnt forgive

I don't know why everyone is
so surprised. What else are we to expect from years of liberal indoctrination in our colleges and schools at how Western Civilization is the root of all evil.

I, for one, grow tired of the Obamas' of the world that continually defecate in their own bed, then roll in it. It defies logic. These people seem to think that constantly putting one on the defensive, making them hate themselves is not only productive but honest. It isn't.

By the time--
we have the next Dem/Acorn RIGGED S-ELECTION, it will TOO LATE. Once the "American Volunteer FORCE" (read Brown Shirts/Waffen SS) [as strong and well equipped as the Military] is Accomplished, the "Kenyan Kommie Usurper" will have a strangle-hold on the American Populace. When the lyin' B@$t@rd Spector, sold out, and Al Franken(stein's)SE-LECTION is confirmed, We basically have a ONE PARTY SYSTEM--Democratic Socialism. We will have Obama as POTUS, For Life. [Ala' Roosevelt, Castro, Chavez] There is NO Peaceful Solution to this. WHY do THEY (Dems) favor GUN CONTROL??? The Same Reason the rest of the Commie Dictatorships Do!! It's EASY to Control an UN-Armed citizenry. BTW, EVERYONE who posts on Conservative Web-Sites, are, in all probability, on a Watch List! Look to be Rounded Up, when the Quacha/Merd/Dreck Hits the FAN!!!

DCR
"Doug Giles--Anger Management Anyone
Wow, the far-right (all that's left--no pun intended) sputters, spits, and spews in with new found irrelevance and hatred.

Unfortunately,, like most citizens, I don't have time nor inclination to join the "debate" that Giles started. Another angry puff piece that would intrigue Freud. No doubt his castration anxiety has been projected as fear of an impotent US. Therapy may help.

Stay angry and irrelevant please. Get out the Teabags again, quite amusing."



Your whole post is hatred spewed wrapped up in a pretty bow, and yet you have the nerve to complain about hatred?! Your intellect is a joke. You are quite guilty of what you accuse. You finger point without ever realizing there are three fingers pointing back at you.

You should also learn, along with your liberal twit friends, what an analogy is.

jeramy...

Townhall is NOT the GOP.

You're making a mute point here. The writer of the article is at odds with the GOP as well. He writes this often.

Try reading the actual words rather than being consumed with biased hate toward that which you assume is a like-minded group.

I know, it's confusing.

jeramy

"hypocritical artical
The GOP believes in States Rights unless a state wants to institute same sex marriage."


Horse puckey. Even John McCain said it is a states right issue. You believe in states rights unless it comes to abortion.

jeramy the confused
oh so in your sexually confused world, it's always acceptable that the 2% of the population that is said to be gay is supposed to have the right to tell the remaining 98% the gay crowd should set the rules for the resty of society.

Funny how the rest of us are supposed to honor your agenda but your crowd has no trouble attacking any and all who stand op[posed to your lifestyle.

I always wondered why your and your confused pals just didn't all migrate to california where you could rule over a population fully in tune with your lifestyle.

JULY 4TH INDEPENDENCE DAY RALLYS

.....GET ORGANIZED CONSERVATIVES ...THIS MIGHT BE OUR LAST CHANCE TO STEM THE SOCIALIST JUGGERNAUT .....COLOSSUS

PS

.....BRING TESTICLES .....COLOSSUS

Lolo1 ... these children come by and
compare Fox News (a corporation) and the GOP (a political org) to Conservatism (a movement).

Isn't this what the Liberal Psychologists call "Co-dependency" (Problems with boundaries).

They don't seem to know where Obama begins and they end. They see no difference between you, me, and Glenn Beck.

It's not we Conservatives who think alike, we never have. But rather the 60 (now 40) million Democrat voters who cannot bring themselves to call Obama what he is, a failure (Fear of Abandonment by Mommy and Daddy).

You do not accept
What the States have decided.
You are the problem
========================

jeramy writes:- 12:25 PM EST
hypocritical artical
The GOP believes in States Rights unless a state wants to institute same sex marriage
=======================
Name any State you want to that has been allowed a vote and 100 percent agree.

No such thing as sodomite marriage.

To say there is, is akin to saying evil is good.
Which is what you do

Here's the best one.



Biden said, "Run for your life!!!"

What he meant was, "Jogging is good for your health."

Good point Carlos
The Obama supporters never talk to any of us as individuals.

They come to insult some collective because they see themselves as part of a collective and not individuals.
Its why kool-aide drinkers fits them and just an accusation they use against real conservatives

Evolution of Progressives
1909 Teddy Roosevelt: Walk softly, but carry a big stick.
2009 BHO: Apologize to everyone, but carry a limp noodle.

No Christian soldiers
Hi Doug,
You present yourself as a Christian, so you must know that for the first 300 years of the church no solider was allowed to become a Christian, and if a Christian became a soldier he was asked to leave the church. So strong among early Christians was the knowledge that Christ ended the possibility of fighting wars that it was commonly held that it was better to die yourself than to kill another.

Now we have bozos like you and Colson saying that soldiering is a good Christian occupation. See how far we have come from the true transmission Jesus brought.

As an aside, compelling Israel to accept a return to the 1967 borders would end terrorism overnight while the macho invasion of Iraq just generated more recruits and made terrorists stronger.


Joel-De Opresso Liber . . .
Sorry about that. I did not mean to imply that you discussed "asking for liberty".. My bad use of language-- "however" was put in during a brain f#rt that I had.
Best regards. Keep the good insights coming.

Joel
I don't see GOD saving us from the likes of Obama.He gave us free will to decide our own destinies.Will he ever destroy humanity?Not in our lifetime.We as a people may destroy ourselves

re: Clownbama!!!
Come on, take the gloves off!!! Look, this guy and all of his cronies in the WH and those in the congress actually hate America, and the const. and all the people who do not want a big sprawling gov. that is a nanny state gov. These people do not care about your feelings or your well being, because they think they know how to "REMAKE" America into something that resembles a UNique wussy no way are we going to do anything about what some mean Al-Queda guy does!!! I fought for an America that is strong and will not take any crap from anyone, ClownBAMA and his jokers don't want this, so they are doing every thing they can to strip any personal freedoms away from me or you and then they can have their totally wussed out nanny state that they want that is a cower down wienny of a country!! Much like Belgium, and the rest of wussy European countries!!!

TEXAS WILL SAVE US AND U.S.
Thank God for TEXAS! That great independent state is going to save us. I don't know how, when, or where, but some patriotic person or persons from there is/are going to pull us out of the Era of Insanity this country has entered since Nov. I just heard on the news that Texas has passed legislation that any firearm built in their state will not be subject to Federal rules and regs. Talk about Independent Spirit! Long Live TEXAS! Don't live there, but have a tremendous respect for their hard headed grittiness. Wussy states take notice of TEXAS.

We (the U.S.) Now A Nation of Muslims!
Obama said, "We (the U.S.) is a nation of Christians and Muslims. Now, that should have been the first clue on 1/20/09, but no, not at all. He stated on national TV that his religion is Muslim and was corrected by the interviewer that his religion is Christian. He bowed to the Muslim King which only Muslims are allowed to do. He's pushing 50, so don't give me that young president didn't know propaganda.
He's not too young to appoint a Homeland Security president who has labeled conservatives and Christian Americans or any U.S. citizen who opposes illegal immigration, abortion or gun control as "rightwing extemists." Good grief, Homeland Security hasn'tmentioned the radical Muslims standing on American soil a few months ago who screamed into our television that they would "dominate America" and that they would "kill the infidels" (you and me) and throw the American "Jews into bigger ovens," but none of that was even mentioned.
Well, I guess, I'm just one citizen who sees things much differently than the millions of Americans who say, "give him a chance." I keep asking, "A chance to do what?" Enforce the Fairness Doctrine and Hate Crimes Act that shuts all Americans up? Pay for worldwide abortions at $460,000,000 with U.S. tax dollars?Well, it's definitely not the America that I've know nor am I sure that the U.S. Constitution is in full force, any longer, but again, I'm just one little citizen with one small voice who didn't give him high marks for his first 100 days - only because I love to blog; speak out; protest; oppose illegal immigration; oppose gun control; oppose trampling on religious freedom and speech and oppose slaughtering millions of babies worldwide. I guess, I just love America the Way It Was before 2009 - free!

Rick in #44 etc
I received a message very similar to what Ann posted and I got it from...a SEAL buddy...they may technically work for bambi, but since he has no balls and is more interested in image than results, the on scene commanders did the job they are trained to do..make decisions, something your fearless leader has never shown an affinity for.

You helped elect someone who will destroy this country and in your naivete', you actually think the rest of us are the problem.

How do you liberals become so blinded that you cannot see what is happening right in front of your eyes?

Strap a set on and stand up for your country or if you hate it so much, leave, believe me, you will not be missed.

The time to save us is NOW!
Karen writes: “...TEXAS WILL SAVE US AND U.S....”
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I think the time has come for Texas and all other States who cherish the principles upon which our nation was founded to do that.

148 years ago Texas, along with 10 other States, attempted to free us from the tyranny of a strong centralized Federal government, in what should rightfully be called THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGRESSION. The saddest day in our nation’s history took place on 9 Apr. 1865 at
Appomattox court house. That day marked our nations 148 year decline toward what we’ve now become: A nation ruthlessly dominated by a Dictatorial, Centralized, Federal government, determined to change the USA into the USSA:
The UNITED SOCIALIST STATES of AMERICA, and ultimately subservient to ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT under the UN.

I was borne and raised in Texas. It’s my hope that Texas, and other States who now see the direction our once great nation is heading, will band together into another Confederacy and throw off the shackles of FEDERAL TYRANNY. Should this glorious day arrive, I will flee the PRC (Peoples Republik of California) and join the fight. I will bring with me only my AK47 and experience gained as a former senior military officer. It’s my hope that others will join this struggle and contribute what they can.

Rick, MN
"Gates is reshaping our national effort from within the Pentagon, and Obama is supporting the new direction. That is leadership."

He is reshaping the military from one with a two-front approach to war to a more streamlined fighting machine.

While I believe that the military, like all
bureaucracies, should undergo routine systems checks to insure that they are running efficiently, I can give you a list of potential second fronts.

Even after Obama withdraws "combat" troops, 40-50,000 renamed "trainers" and "security forces" will remain.

Israel and Iran are quickly moving toward an armed exchange, with probable use of nuclear weapons. This will certainly bring us into it because of 1) the nature of our relationship with Israel; 2) the destabilization of the entire ME; and, 3) for economic and energy reasons.

Israel has again begun bombing tunnel sites in Gaza, where Hamas (supported by Iran and Syria) is in power.

North Korea plans to test a 2nd nuclear weapon and another missile.

Robert Gibbs admitted yesterday that more than 100,000 troops will have to be deployed to Afghanistan in the next year, which he stated would be a "hard sell" politically.

The Taliban is within 60 miles of Islamabad in Pakistan. If the government falls, the Taliban will have access to nuclear weapons and many of Pakistan's military are sympathetic to the the Taliban. The Taliban would be strengthened by the possession of nuclear weapons and turn back to Afghanistan with weapons that our military are not outfitted to fight against in that war arena.

Thank you Doug.
Another refreshingly accurate piece on BO the appeaser. I am still waiting to see his birth certificate too.

As the obama ships out American Forces
He is bringing in Foreign Troops.
Him and Gates, the left over who has been planning a private army for years.
And is why he remains in Office with the obama.
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Marines and sailors from a dozen different countries stormed a beach close to Jacksonville, displaying Mexican, Colombian, and other foreign flags. The operation was part of UNITAS — Latin for unity — a program with several objectives, including an increase in “interoperability.”

More than 20 naval ships, many of them foreign, have gathered off the coast of Mayport, Florida, for the two weeks of training. Also present are four submarines, over 50 aircraft, and more than 7,000 sailors and marines, according to the Department of Defense. "We're helping each other to train the future navies of the world," said Commodore Rudy Laco, the man in charge of the operation’s ships. Other countries participating include Canada, Argentina, Germany, Ecuador, Peru, Brazil, Uruguay, and Chile.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/1070

"The Truth shall set you Free"
18 WHEELER!
So nice to see someone who has studied the true history of the War of Northern Aggression, but I use another name: The War for Southern Independence.
Whatever of these two names you prefer to use I consider them both correct. Regardless of the myths perpetrated by accepted history books, the truth is finally coming out in such books, as "The Real Lincoln" "Lincoln Unmasked" by economics professor Thomas J. DiLorenzo and Greg Loren Durand's (A Californian)"Ameica's Caesar"
Economics played a greater part in the causing of the war rather than slavery. The Morrill Tariff Act was the final straw that caused the South to seceede.
With the Opression of economics pouring out
of Washington (both Democrat and former Republican boo boos) It may once again be time to consider secession from an oppressive, tenacled Extra Strong Central Government that Lincoln and His radical Whig/Republican philosophies overpowered the whole country. But alas! Do we have any Statesmen left that have backbone enough to advance it?
In truth the South Seceeded peacefully without firing a shot, but Lincoln realized that dismissing them would cut off 80% of the income to the Federal Government. Fort Sumter was a false flag operation designed by Lincoln and General Winfield Scott to get the South to fire first (see "The UnCivil War" by Mike Scruggs)

talent scout... Yes, collective thinkers
they are. So right you are!

I heard another term, "Surface Thinkers".
Explained as, "Taking someone else's opinion and making it your own".

It's all Black or White with Liberals. An all or nothing mindset...

Like Abortion... First Trimester isn't enough for Liberals. They want the right to kill their children any damn time they please. Age (time) is a boundary to Liberals, and they don't like boundaries.

And the Constitution? Yep! Another evil Boundary.

Israel Practices Strike On Iran
The French magazine L’Express today reports that Israeli jets practiced a long-distance strike against Iranian nuclear targets over Gibraltar. If accurate, the report means the Israelis rehearsed a strike some 2,600 miles from home — a distance sufficient to simulate a strike on Iranian territory.

The report in L’Express is the latest to suggest that the Israeli air force (IAF) has decided to be ready to launch a mission at a moment’s notice should Israel’s political leaders give the go-ahead.

Israeli strategists believe that the leaking of such Israeli preparations serve as an important element of deterrence regardless of whether or not Israel has actually decided to strike if it determines that a diplomatic solution to the Iranian nuclear program has become impossible.

Also today, the Jerusalem Post reveals that Israeli air force reservists who operate the Arrow and Patriot missile-defense systems have recently begun spending one day a week on duty to sharpen their skills, amid fears that in a conflict with Iran, dozens of long-range missiles would be fired at Israel.

Later this year, the IAF will hold an unprecedented and massive exercise with the U.S. military to jointly test three different ballistic missile defense systems, including the Israeli-made Arrow and the American THAAD and Aegis, which will be brought specially to Israel for the exercise.

The high-powered American X-Band radar, deployed in the Negev Desert in late 2008 (see item 3 here) as a farewell gift from former President George W. Bush, participated in the recent Arrow test and tracked the incoming target.

Doctrine? About Bend Over?
I personally have huge reservations about the president elect’s beliefs and motivations. I don’t believe he truly holds The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution as sacred. I believe he sees these venerable masterpieces of freedom, liberty, and conservatism as something “whities” came up with and are to be interpreted to advance his socialistic and race-based agenda.

My 12th prediction a day after the election: Publicly, the international community will laud the pretender for his “brilliant diplomacy”. Privately, they will gloat, laugh, and point at the gullible buffoon in the White House and the greatly reduced influence of the U.S. on the world’s stage. The bad actors will take every opportunity to ratchet up their dirty deeds at our expense, extensive loss of life included.

One of at least twelve of his character flaws is lack of moral resolve. As far as the pretender's nearly non-existent resume, he has not served in the military in any capacity so his mettle has never been tested. The only audacity we can be sure of is his blatant exploitation of the dole system in education and his obsessive preening of his image and control of the fawning media.

About this for a precedent: A Kenyan born stealth muslim in the White House!?! Where's the once again derelict, useless Supreme Court in this matter that was brought to their attention well before the election and squelched by the MSM? The Constitution is being mangled and the SC do-nothings are giving this impostor a pass?!? We are a nation in serious trouble.

St. Denis a/k/a Denise ... I wonder?

Israel will need U.S. help to carry out a 'meaningful' strike (notice, no other nation on Earth will help Israel).
Bush bowed out, leaving it up to Barack to decide.

And Iran surely plans to detonate a nuke within Barack's "8" years (maybe over Tel Aviv).

Well, it's gonna be interesting.


To 18 WHEELER
God loves you, and so do I! The hypnotized and duped, the H.A.D., are the ones who got us into this nightmarish situation. I forgive them, I guess, cause they were hypnotized and duped. TEXAS was the state with the highest percentage of MCCAIN voters in the entire country. And they're going to save us. I rest my case.

Obama-so scarewee-oh!!LOOK OUT!!
He might stamp his feet and and scowl at you, Doug for saying those awful things. It's pitiful!!

He and his policies are just SO VERY WRONG for this country. Heavy sigh.

amonk, are you willfully stupid or what?
amonk9
Location: CA
Reply # 111
Date: May 3, 2009 - 1:28 PM EST
No Christian soldiers
Hi Doug,

"As an aside, compelling Israel to accept a return to the 1967 borders would end terrorism overnight..."

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Yes it will, and the Easter Bunny will come back today and give us more Easter Eggs and Candy.

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FLIPPING MIND, OR JUST WILLFULLY IGNORANT OF REALITY?

There is NOTHING, short of the complete elimination of Israel and ALL Jews that will make the wars and terrorism against them end.

Israel has given up land time after time after time in order to end the violence against them and it has done NO GOOD. You're a blithering idiot if you think further concessions will.

Palestinian, Egyptian, Iranian, and Saudi leaders, among others HAVE ALL SWORN a death oath to wipe the Jew off the face of the earth. And they mean to follow thru on that no matter how long it takes.

DEMS FLIMFLAM PUBLIC ON SOC HEALTH-PT A
Here we have the DEMS always needing a bigger shovel for the level of UTOPIAN propaganda they want to throw at the UNSUSPECTING PUBLIC.

wanna? know the latest??? Michael moore made a progpaganda film where they attempt to bamboozle the PUBLIC by claiming CUBA'S healthcare is better than the USA ....and that the USA should go to the CUBAN model for healthcare.

WANNA KNOW??? what the reality is and whaaat they are really HIDING... the reality is in CUBA people have to BEG FROM TOURISTS for allergy inhalers and aspirin. You can bet if Americans are allowed to be bamboozled into Socialist healthcare DEMS will make SURE USA is WORSE OFF than CUBA.

According to the new stimulus if your child needs antibiotics and the GOV only wants to give them Asprin or NOTHING guess whaaat they will get ASPIRIN or NOTHING.

Whats worse.. if your/adult/child are X percent sick they ARE LEFT TO DIE.

Soc healthcare is MORE expensive AND gives NO HEALTHCARE. We are no scholar, but you don't need to be a scholar to SEE whaaat is wrong with the DEMS scenario.


You have said it all!
Mr. Giles...,if I were a fan club sort of person I would start one for you.I would be a bad manager , but I would try.

There is NOTHING left to be said here. THANK YOU!!

Ensign Pulver: I thought EVERYONE

KNEW that there is NOTHING, short of the complete elimination of Israel and ALL Jews that would make the wars and terrorism against them end.

Geeze... how did we miss amonk9?

Could there be others?





To KENNETH of SC
Thank for the tip about "The Uncivil War". I will look it up. Thanx too for the other comments. I have always believed The Lost Cause was over economics. The screamers who don't want anyone presenting the Battle Flag in their windows insist if you do you're for slavery. Still more evidence of ignorance and thinking everything is all about blacks. It's a respect for tradition. So is decorating Confederate graves for All Souls'Day in Louisiana. The Sons of the Confederacy are a great organization, and do good work, despite prejudice against them. The tide will turn, but this time, I believe, it's going to come out of TEXAS. Texas will save us! They're too hard-headed over there to allow this nightmare to continue.

Ralph Fl.
Amongst Barry Dunham's MANY ridiculous campaign promises was the inference that, Bush was an A...hole and that if he, Barry Dunham,were President he would get Osama.

It's been over 100 days. Hello Barry....,where's Osama?

talent,denise,q,amonk9....
Talent Scout: good comments as usual...keep up
the good work!
Denise,Q: Denise,dear, would you tell Rowly I have been trying to catch him.Also,doesn't Israel need refueling capacity to return their planes? Maybe they will just buy on credit...
smile... refueling capacity, you know one of those BIG BIRDS!
Q: YES, we are in big trouble! I asked a friend of mine very smart dude,why would we let all the nations siege upon Israel we are their friends? He said because we will be in such a
financial mess..we will not be able to help
them!Hmmmmmm?
Talent Scout:why do I get nervous when I hear of all these joint international military
activities? ONE WORLD GVMNT.!!!??
AMONK9: are you telling me that Peter,James,
John,Matthew,Mark,Luke,Paul,etc. lived 300
years!?? Bull! The scriptures are very clear
that the church was founded on Apostles/Prop.
and Christ!BY the year 300 HIS church was already unraveling as HE predicted it would!
HE said there would be a falling away of the
church...and be brought back in the last days!
Soooo your SOLDIER/CHRISTIAN yak you just
spewed was a part of the falling away from the truth!So pull your foot out of your mouth...
BOZO!
Elvis

Castrated Left Wing
We are told on every news show by every left wingnut how the Republican Party is on its last leg and needs to be put out of its misery.

Or else they tell us how and what we need to do to get back into contention. Of course,that would be the last thing they want.

When their enchantment with 'The One' is over and they realize what he and his puppetmasters have done to them (and us),they will curse him. That is ,unless they are socialists/fascists,at heart.

Every time he and his cohorts give bailout money to businesses,they are buying into the business. How will the left like the government running business? Wake-up lefties!

The government and unions will be owners of most businesses in just a few years. If you are not union,you will not work.






ROWLY,ROWLY,ROWLY
Hey man, I have been trying to catch ya!
How are you doing? I like the way you make my
day by gently crushing the lefties! Well, not
always gently! ha ha ha.
All the massive business went on ICE..so Iam free to spew my insanity..a little more often!
We is headed for ONE WORLD GVMNT.unless
something is done real quick! MY new neiighbor
is H.Oswald...I haven't asked his first name.
He has guns,trucks, and talks soooooo harsh
about Obarfa..hmmmmm? And he has a Texas plate
on his car!!!And he said something about ....
November being his favorite month!
Elvis

2 late 4 the TRUTH? I HOPE NOT
Kenneth re: “The Truth shall set you Free”
****** ****** ****** ****** ******
Unfortunately these Truths are generally not taught in public schools as they are considered “Politically Incorrect”. Our public schools are more interested in Social Engineering than in real education.

Today, justification for a New Confederacy far exceeds that which existed at the time the Morrill Tariff was introduced in 1861. The issues then prompting secession were primarily economic. Today the issues are far more diverse and divisive. This countries extreme polarization on so many diverse issues could lead to the only true “Civil War” we may experience. I only hope that the formation of a new Confederacy and a peaceful secession will avoid this.

elvis !!
If his first name is Lee,watch out!! You know how those 'Suspicious Minds' are.

You said the other day,you had passed on the business. So welcome back. We need all the righties we can get to put the trolls out to pasture.

To answer your question Anne,
Sadly, yes there are. Many of them are here on this board. Amonk, Wobbie and Hal Doofass are just a few of them.

No matter how often the truth is thrown in their faces they just refuse to see it, and as long as we have people like them to deal with, Israels's fate is not good.

A closet MUSLIM????
Why do people try to figure out what even he doesn't know? We're going to find out what side he chooses though, aren't we? Sooner rather than later. Sad isn't it?

End of Days
Not only has Obambi (unilaterally) taken all options off the table, he's not been to church (besides Easter Sunday) since his election. Who needs G-d when you've, "got a gift"?

Elvis

It is my understanding that Israel either has the long-range capacity to hit Iran or does have mid-air refuelers. It has hit Iran before when it took out the nuclear sites. From what I understand, Netanahyu is coming to DC to meet with Obama relative to the use of Iraqi airspace.

Israel has long been an ally with America and it would be disastrous for us to allow another Holocaust. Additionally, it would have a devastating impact on our economy. This is even more true given the Administration's recent and destructive moves in the oil, natural gas, and coal industry. If we do not drill and mine here, we will have to use more foreign oil because wind and solar only produces 1% of energy nationwide.

To Destiny Bender
It's prob'ly too difficult for the Secret Service to check out churches prior to his arrival. That combined with the flak he'd get for choosing one over another or still another....prob'ly all clamoring for the Royals to attend their church, mosque, or whatever. It's hard out there for an aspiring one world leader. So many religions, so little time!

he knows karen
karen writes:- 6:43 PM EST
A closet MUSLIM????
Why do people try to figure out what even he doesn't know?
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Nothing to figure out, just takes some time to follow the evidence and read.

Sites like this

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaFamily.htm

This one

http://www.obamanotqualified.com/grandmother.htm

this one
http://salinecountyrepublicans.com/MeetObama.htm

this one

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/10/secret-scrapbook-o f-barry-soetoro.html

this one

http://sites.google.com/site/obamabirth/Home/obama-short-fo rm-birth-certificate

I have read all this and tracked down the available information and all of it leads back to sealed documents obama will not release.
I have many more sites I have read to try and find out who this guy really is and one thing is certain.
He is not the man as the press has presented him, but an image they have created around him.


They have been doing this very thing
For all other Presidents since they were created.
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karen writes:
6:56 PM EST
To Destiny Bender
It's prob'ly too difficult for the Secret Service to check out churches prior to his arriva

DEAR TALENT SCOUT
Thanx for putting up the info. I appreciate it. You are a good person. These are creepy times, and only those who put forth an effort, like you, are going to save us. The truth will come out. There are too many angry people for it not to...people who have the ways and means to bring the B.S. to light. LONG LIVE TEXAS!

All conservatives need one voice
karen

On an issue we have a solid foundation to oppose Barry Soetoro before he completely destroys everything this Country has good to offer.
I believe this is the issue we need to hit obama with like a heart attack.

He is not who he claims he is and its provable.
Everything single thing the public thinks they know about this guy is wrong.
All of the truth of who he really is has been buried, and nothing good can come out of a crooked man who uses fraud.
This is the issue we all need to get together on and demand it be cleared up by legal due process of law.

quote:
"AFFIDAVIT OF REVEREND KWELI SHUHUBIA
I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a party to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows I am an ordained minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist churches in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel
extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, "Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya?" This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied, "Yes".

http://www.obamanotqualified.com/grandmother.htm

Talent Scout
Stay on your quest. If anyone here can do anything..., please solicit our help!

Talent Scout: You track Orly's site?
.

Thank you LC
Anything of support for this group will help the Country.

They are dedicated to exposing Obama

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The biggest political cover up in American history
is taking place right before our eyes.

The question of whether Barack Hussein Obama is eligible to serve as President of the United States of America... OR, is he a FRAUD, a USURPER, a man with no legal authority to sit in the position that he now claims to hold

Barack Obama could simply put the issue to rest right now by releasing his ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE! But he WON'T! Instead, he has had teams of attorneys all over the country, fighting "tooth and nail" to thwart the efforts of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF), and our allies in a number of states to compel him to produce an ACTUAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE and to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

United States Justice Foundation
932 D Street Suite #2
Ramona California, 92065

http://www.usjf.net/





And Barack Obama's attorneys have now taken another big step to destroy the Constitution of the United States -- this time in a California State Court. Those attorneys, working with liberal California State Attorney General Jerry Brown, convinced the Judge in our case, at a March 13, 2009, hearing to rule that only Members of Congress can challenge the qualifications of Mr. Obama to serve as President.
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THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS


We have to all get together and force them to obey the law that requires obama to be transparent under Article 4 of the US Constitution.

Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records and judicial proceedings of every other state.


This would include his records in Hawaii, California, Illinois and the Universites he attended.
All of which have sealed their records about this man, this fraud.

Yes Anne
I have stayed abreast of her legal battles.

This must come to a head in Court, it will not be dismissed by any Judge, no matter how many refuse to allow the evidence to be presented and be the trier of fact as they are required to do under the US Constitution Article III.
Section 2. The judicial power shall extend to all cases, in law and equity, arising under this Constitution

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This means what it says and I for one am angry how the Court has given Standing to Foreigners, let alone foreign combatants and REFUSE Standing to American Citizens about a Case arising under the US Constitution.

DENISE.....OBAMA....DISASTER
WHY WOULD ISRAEL LEADER GO TO OBAMA OVER AIR SPACE IN IRAQ? HE HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER THE NEWLY FORMED IRAQ GVMNT.!!?
ELVIS

For some solid information
To begin ones study of who Obama really is, i have not found a better site than this one.

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

"The following timeline presents the important aspects of Barack Obama’s life, from birth to the present. Every attempt has been made to present accurate information, names, and dates. If errors or significant omissions are noted, please feel free to contact the author at colony14@gmail.com. Although the timeline’s content will frequently change as events occur, the author will gladly send you a .pdf version if you would find that useful."

TALENT SCOUT....ARE THEY NOT
USING THE COP OUT THAT HIS MOTHER WAS A U.S.
CITIZEN..THEREBY MAKING HIM A CITIZEN?
I HAVE READ LOOP HOLES IN THAT BALOGNA! BUT THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE TRYING..ISN'T IT?
ELVIS

tea party; talent scout; woodbutcher
Ooooh, don't hurt my feelings. I want to be
just like you. I want to be able to make up
such pizazzy over-used nicknames and say the
same thing over and over and over ad nauseum
because I have nothing else to do.

Just out of curiosity - has it never occurred
to any of you that week after week after week
this guy has to tell has how much testosterone
he has!! Do you ever wonder why?

He is truly a johnny-one-note.

Elvis
Yes
His mother was not of age herself to be able to transfer citizenship to Barry, his real name.

Not according to law when he was born in 1961, regardless where he was born.

US law
relating to
dual citizenship
http://www.richw.org/dualcit/law.html

This case has very close circumstances to Barry's.

Vance v. Terrazas, 444 U.S. 252 (1980)

Talent Scout
"His mother was not of age herself to be able to transfer citizenship to Barry, his real name."

Why do you insist on beating a dead horse.
You lost. Get over it. He's a citizen.


And his real name is Barack. You are so
pathetic. Do you realize that? And people
wonder why I just post statements and don't
enter into dialogue with people.

I don't waste my time with idiots. I come
to say my piece. That's enough.

Re: Joel the Oppressor
So, Joel confirms what the Department of Homeland Security has been saying about the threat of domestic terrorism.

Here's what the Oppressor says:

"If McVeigh had taken targeted Janet Reno, and/or Bill Clinton, then his actions would have been just, and he would have been a hero, instead of a murdering fool."

What the Oppressor is advocating is assassination of the then president of the United States!

Does Joel the Oppressor advocate the same treatment for President Obama?

Shut up tammy
You are the idiot

tammy...i don't wonder
why you don't post! No big loss!
Talent scout is talking about honoring the
law.If you were raped,robbed,swindeled,etc.
you would want the law to be inforced!!
But you seem to be just another two faced
double standard demo-donkey!
As for the election...Obama is going to be a blessing in disguise....2010 is going to be a
real turnover....Donkeys are on their way out!
5 Demodonkeys Gov.are running for re- election
in the nation....and 4 of them are losing big time in the polls(several polls)!Obuma has
aroused millions of moderates,independents
in a negative way!
Elvis

elvis
Always good to see you are doing well.

The law is clear on the status of any person born to an American mother and a Foreign citizen who is under 19 years old.

I will look it up and show it in the next post

Stanley Ann Dunham

Born:
November 29, 1942

Obama was born August 4 1961.

(Not in Hawaii as claimed as no hospital there has any records of his mother or him)
http://www.earthfrisk.com/blog/?p=135

The Queen’s Medical Center
1301 Punchbowl StreetHonolulu, HI
(Obama and Mom Never Here)
96813
Link to Site:
http://www.queensmedicalcenter.net/

Phone number 808-538-9011 General Medical Records 808-547-4361.




Kapiolani Medical Center for Women and Children - (Obama and Mom Never Here) 1319 Punahou StreetHonolulu, Hawaii 96826(808) 535-7000 Link to site
http://www.kapiolani.org/women-and-children/contact/default .aspx


She was 3 months shy of 19 years old.

The only reason this is important is because of the way the Law was written in 1961.
For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

Jeremy in NY
Jeremy, you might improve your credibility here if you learn to spell "artical." I doubt it though in both cases - that you can or will learn and that your credibility can or will be improved.
Do you have a personal interest in same sex relationships? If so be up front, honest and tell us about it. We may be able to direct you to counseling for healing.

Obama vs. Pope Benedict XVI
Obama:
"We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world -- including in my own country. The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country -- I know, because I am one of them."

Pope Benedict XVI cited one of the last emperors of Byzantium, Manuel II Paleologus:
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".

Several Iraqi terrorist groups called for attacks on the Vatican. A cleric ... urged Muslims to "hunt down" and kill the pope. In ..Mogadishu, a nun was gunned down in a children's hospital.

http://blog.beliefnet.com/cityofbrass/2009/04/the-united-st ates-is-not-and-n.html

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110 008963

Giles - major skinhead
Big bully-boy Giles with the mentality of a 12 year old overloaded on hormones. "Pastor" my a**. Unless it's the "pastor" of some skinhead automatic-weapon loaded misfit organization - which he's the 'pastor.' Here's an idea people -- do something constructive -- offer a REAL solution, a REAL alternative that will work. You really do sound like the tin-foil hat paranoid ninny gang. No wonder the MSM makes fun of you. Anne writes that she has a friend in the military who knows that Obama didn't want to help rescue the captain. Who's the "friend?" And does the "friend" know that for certain? What's the source? Someone else writes that the "tea parties rattled the left." Rattled? The majority of people knew nothing about this, and if they did so what? There's nothing very unusual about protesting - Americans have the right to protest. It's not as if anyone was proposing a solution to the economic woes, that would threaten anyone's way of life. No one on the right proposes anything, or says anything of value except for themselves to further fuel their pathetic existence. And are you still whining about the birth certificate thing? Get.Over.It. All of this was researched and vetted by both Repubs & Dems YEARS ago. It's been proven.

Tell it like it is!
Just e-mailed a copy of this to a number of my friends.
Being a believer does not mean we have to be filled with religiosity.
While some people may not like his style he is speaking the truth. I welcome the truth.
Please wake up America!
It is obvious to me that the regular style of Ministerial speaking & preaching is not getting the job done!

Elvis
Oh why do you have to call yourself Elvis. He
was my heart throb, but never mind.
***
"Talent scout is talking about honoring the
law.If you were raped,robbed,swindeled,etc.
you would want the law to be inforced!!:
***
I haven't the foggiest idea what you are talking about here but I am going to take a guess and say that it is a wonderful reason for carrying a gun in your pocket at all times when what you have in your pants isn't enough.

To which I say, give me a trained policeman.
I don't run crazies running down the street
with gun in hand.

And a huge turnover in 2010. In your
dreams.

Talent Scout
"he law is clear on the status of any person born to an American mother and a Foreign citizen who is under 19 years old."

The proof is in the pudding. When the case comes to court, we'll talk again. Until then,
see if you can hold your breath until you're
blue.

Besides the foreign citizen (daddy) was 25
when Obama was born, not under 19.

For the benefit of others
I know Tammy is agenda driven, so no one will be able to reason or communicate with her unless the talk liberaleze.
=====================

Tammy writes:- 4:08 PM EST
Talent Scout
"he law is clear on the status of any person born to an American mother and a Foreign citizen who is under 19 years old."

The proof is in the pudding. When the case comes to court, we'll talk again. Until then,
see if you can hold your breath until you're
blue.

Besides the foreign citizen (daddy) was 25
when Obama was born, not under 19.
======================
If wasting words turned one blue in the face, your face would be Navy Blue.

His mother was 19, his father was not even a citizen of the USA.
He is not even part of the Law his mother was under.

His father was a Foreign Exchange Student from Kenya.

His citizenship would have been through his mother if she had been 19 and was not

If you want to know who obama is

Read this link,

http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

the following is one small example

In 1965, Obama’s father writes an article for the “East Africa Journal” called, “Problems Facing Our Socialism,” in which he criticizes Kenya for not being socialist enough. He writes, “Theoretically, there is nothing that can stop the government from taxing 100 per cent of income so long as the people get benefits from the government commensurate with their income which is taxed.” Obama, Jr. has so far suggested a maximum federal income tax rate of “only” 39.6 per cent (not counting Social Security taxes, Medicare taxes, and state income taxes). Obama, Sr. advocated the elimination of private farming in Kenya, the nationalization of businesses, and high taxes on the wealthy for “redistribution.” (Obama, Jr., with the eager assistance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, may very well end up attempting to nationalize America’s banks and its auto, oil, and utility industries.) [271,1008]
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This man predicted it 100 percent as this was written before this was done by obama, the communist.

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Well said. You're a great writer
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