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Saturday, September 16, 2006
Doug Giles :: Townhall.com Columnist
Go Beyond the Pavement
by Doug Giles
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I love ticking off as many vapid, anti-American and anti-traditional values blowhards as I can. It is one of the chief joys of my life. However, sometimes I need a reprieve from the rancor and the hell razing.

Aside from needing a break from the bellicosity that is my life, I need a break from the place where I live, i.e. Miami. This place is more plastic than Joan River’s face, breasts, ear lobes, tummy, or . . . yecch! I’m sorry. I just made myself vomit. Excuse me for a sec . . . okay, I’m back.

In addition to the synthetic scene here in South Florida, the metrosexual madness down here is so sassy and solid it leaves a redneck refugee like me shaking like a junkie for a testosterone reality fix away from the weapons-grade foolishness that unfortunately inundates one of the most beautiful spots on the planet.

Also, I get ill thinking about having to go to the mall, again, and having to ford through all the mall rats, with their fake (or real, I don’t care) Louis Vuitton purses, Gucci shades, and their angst over, “whether they should get A/X’s skinny jeans or Abercrombie’s new ones.” Yeah, having to share air with these helix-missing morons and being forced to overhear how bad their lives reek as they scream on their cell phones leaves me with an intense desire to get the hell outta Dodge. Y’know what I’m sayin’?

Furthermore (and I know I’m not supposed to say this), I get weary at times of talk radio and TV talk shows, which are quickly becoming my life. Doesn’t it get old, occasionally, hearing the left and right go at each other night after night after night after night? Call me a wussy, but since I don’t drop acid or smoke ganja any more I need to escape.

A cruise is out of the question for me. Being on a disease laced, slow moving diarrhea ship, filled with stretch pant wearing, buffet loving, overweight, pink-skinned drunks that are paraded like lemmings from one overpriced port to the next is not my idea of recreating.

Nothing, as far as I’m concerned, does more for me than getting away and going hunting with my family and friends. Putting massive distance between me and the mall, my cell phone and my email and going beyond the pavement in pursuit of the planet’s magnificent game animals or birds is b-e-a-u-tiful to me.

What do I like about it?

My cell phone usually doesn’t work.

Just getting out in the wild connects me back to my primal spiritual and physical roots. God didn’t create Adam to live in a condo. He made a feral crib for his first man to live and whup it up in with Eve. There is something that the undomesticated does to me that no Lysol disinfected, five star hotel can provide.

Everything slows down. I’m forced to chill out. I’m not going mach2 with my hair on fire. I’m forced to shut up and quit screaming. I’m forced to breathe, and the air I inhale in the woods is clean and not some germ laden, stale, fart loaded, re-circulated office oxygen (I office out of my home).

My senses come alive and are taken to a higher level by pursuing my prey. My eyes, ears, nose, feet and hands kick into gear like they don’t when I’m sitting like a drooling, giggling, Corona drinking zombie watching Seinfeld on my couch.

It makes me get disciplined. To be a successful hunter requires strictness. To shoot a rifle, shotgun, pistol or bow well takes commitment. To successfully stalk a big game animal and make a clean and lethal shot takes additional dedication. To hunt dangerous game animals requires that I be a seriously focused little monkey. To sit quietly for hours takes Tibetan monk like tenacity. To chase wild boar through a swamp, cougars over miles of desert mountains, and elk where the air is thin means I’ve gotta work out during the week, or I’m going to be more lost than K-Fed watching Bret Hume. The above de rigueur explains why I don’t see too many crack heads on the hunting fields. My sport demands you have your act together.

Hunting changes lives. I’ve seen it several times. I have seen bored adults and kids come alive when the hunt commences. I’ve watched idiots on drugs lay them down for good because they got a greater buzz hunting with good people than they did snorting crank with their butt munch friends in Hialeah. BTW, for the too cool teen or twenty-something who might not think hunting can be as thrilling as drugs, come with me and confront a 350lb PO’ed wild boar, or come to the glades and hunt gators out of an air boat, or take a shot at a grizzly with a bow, or face up to a hippo out of the water with a double rifle. I guarantee ecstasy, ‘shrooms, and a crystal has never, can never and will never give you the buzz that these situations will. You’ll mess your pants. Give it a try, girlfriend. You’ll be sweating like Ahmadinejad in church.

I connect with friends and family on a deeper level. Life’s busy in the city. Sometimes, even the “good” relationships we have with friends and family are about as shallow as a creek in Death Valley. The campfire allows for communication that you do not get when the idiot box is on and everyone is running in fifty different directions. If it weren’t for my dad taking me hunting every year when I was a kid, I probably wouldn’t really even know him (which might be a plus for him, but would be a huge minus for me). I feed hundreds of poor people with high protein, low fat, yummy flesh that comes from my kills. I guarantee that I and just three of my hunting compadres feed way more hungry people via hunting than your typical group of 1000 bleeding heart, yarbling, anti-hunters ever have or will.

There are very few loony liberals. Another great blessing regarding hunting is that I seldom, if ever, run into secular, “progressive,” pluralistic, relativistic, big government loving, anti-military, God and country hating leftists.

Yes, when I’m looking for a break I bound into the swamp, brush or woods with gun or bow in tow in pursuit one of our planet’s amazing game animals. Nothing, absolutely nothing, restores my soul like everything that surrounds the sport of hunting with friends and family. As a matter of fact, my 79-yr. old dad, three of my closest buddies and I are gearing up for a great Maine black bear hunt next week.

Hunters, get away this fall and winter. Don’t let this season not see you and yours in the woods. Also, join the NRA, Safari Club International and Ted Nugent’s United Sportsman of America. Kick your cash into these organizations that keep PETA and other paltry, paranormal, anti-hunting organizations at bay and help us keep alive our great American heritage of hunting.

* Logon to ClashRadio.com and check out Giles’ interview with Patrick Coyle, director of campus programs for Young America’s Foundation (www.yaf.org), and author of the book, The 2006-2007 Campus Conservative Battleplan.

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Ok Doug Lets talk reality

I agree with perhaps 90% of your article. But you seem to have forgotten the status of general audience your speaking to.

Yes, I can understand how city life closes in on one, and the desire to get away from it all. Even for a weekend. I'm sure all Americans feel the same way.

But I feel your column goes beyond the norm. Its fine that you vent your frustrations with this article. It's a healthy release for a strenuous life style.

Doug, Who are you talking to? Who are you trying to reach? Are you looking for sympathy? What's the purpose of your article?

Let me explain. I'm a redneck country boy and have lived in and around the wilds all my life. I'm a skilled hunter with a rifle, a bow, a crossbow, a knife, and traps of all sorts. I have taken Deer, Moose, Elk, Mountain Lion, and a bear or so.

But let me tell you. I've never enjoyed killing an animal, a life of any sort! Not even a snake. I hate trophy hunters with a passion! I can't stand seeing a once living animals head hung on a wall. To flatter the hunters ego. I have hunted and taken game in Maine, Idaho, Ariz, Oregon, Colo. Texas, New Mexico and California and Canada. And every bit of the meat that my family couldn't use was given to to Old Age Homes, churches, and orphanages etc.

This is longer than I normally post but you got to me Doug! I was in these various states out of necessity, looking for work. You come across as a very rich man that can chose to travail the earth. Hunt big game in Africa for instance or any country of choice. I can guarantee you that most of us don't have that luxury.

Still......
Both Mr. Giles and the previous poster grasp a fact that eludes most members of PETA. It was best summed up by Col. Jeff Cooper;

"The most important thing to remember about wild animals, is that they are WILD."

The natural world is many things.

A petting zoo is not one of them.

Target Audience
Goshawk asks who the target audience is, not noticing that it is EVERYONE with a life that needs recharging. Being at the top of the food chain lets some of us feel satisfaction at gathering our own substanience, while others may feel remorse at the act of the kill. I can't change the way others feel about themselves, but I recommend that Goshawk examine his emotions, and look for reason he feels remorse instead of satisfaction when helping to feed himself and others.

Goshawk said he doesn't trophy hunt, but why hunt mountain lion for food. I understand if he kiled one to protect a flock or family/friends, but they are not good eating.

Goshawk is to be commended, as is Mr. Giles, since he donated the extra meat to others, demonstrating love for fellow man. Mr. Giles is to be commended for reminding the rest of us to get away from the keyboard and LIVE!

GOSHAWK, YOU MISSED PART OF IT
Like you goshawk, I can't stand "trophy hunters". If you are going to kill it, then you better eat it. I guess you missed this part of Doug's article:

""I feed hundreds of poor people with high protein, low fat, yummy flesh that comes from my kills. I guarantee that I and just three of my hunting compadres feed way more hungry people via hunting than your typical group of 1000 bleeding heart, yarbling, anti-hunters ever have or will.""

paratroop: apparently you have never eaten lion. It is very good if dressed and cooked properly.

Go get 'em Doug, I know exactly how you feel. We moved out of the "city" 4 years ago. We now live on the shores of a lake in a very rural part of New Mexico. In one days time I can catch my limit in bass, bag a deer, an antelope and get a sack full of quail. That's why I have 2 freezers.

Three hours north of here I can show you a line of elk 2 miles long heading for water just at daybreak. Since I was raised in the northern part of the state, and know many of the ranchers, I can get you a h*ll of a deal on a permit for elk, black bear or mountain lion.

You want to see some real paradise come out to the Land of Enchantment and visit us. The keys are in the pickup and it's ready to go. I think I'll go fishing now, I'm hankerin' for some walleye.

D*mn, I can't find my house key. Oh well, we never lock the doors anyway.









Lion & House Keys
Jerry, you sound like a guy I could talk to around a campfire. I ate "lion" in Central America, so maybe the cooks needed a "little" experience with our preferred tastes...!

I understand the pleasure in being able to leave your house unlocked, but here on earth remember, "Here they be goblins, keep your sword sharp and your powder dry." Lock your house, we would hate to lose you to a goblin.

God bless you and yours. Airborne! All the way!

Wish the libs would post here!
Goshawk: I too am a meat hunter, but even the adameant meat hunter occasionally takes a trophy and I hope that you are not too offended thatI, too have a couple of mounts in my den. For example a 20 inch spead whitetail (european style) that I could not pass up, if for no other reason than to "shut up" all the braggart sport hunters I know. Also, my very first blackpowder deer and my son's first deer. I have them as a remembrance of times past.

Jerry: would love to come to the Land of Enchantment as I am your neighbor living in "Indian Territory". While we have excellent fishing and deer hunting it sure is starting to get crowded here. Rifle season on public land is a total fiasco. If you want to harvest a buck during said season, you better get the 1st one you see because after opening day your chances are slim in a sea of orange clad bipedals. Almost all the private land is leased and the cost negates the very essence of hunting for sustenance.

Have never eaten lion but the "Motorcity Madman" says it is good, so I believe him. Tried bobcat once, that was sufficient; not enough wiskey in the world to make me try it again.

Jerry & ParatroopRN
I'm jealous of Jerry's little piece of heaven. I live in Terre Haute, IN and we have to lock our doors here. When I lived in rural Illinois I never did lock them. Could always go to the railroad yard and scare up a couple of rabbits and give the dog some exercise. I miss it. Right now the new missus and I are looking for a place in the country.

ParatroopRN: All the way and then some. A Co, 2nd 505th Inf. (75-77)

Scottie, Goshawk
Scottie:Was born in Terre Haute myself, there is a small street in rural Nevins Township that bears my surname. Find you a place up towards the Vigo and Parke county line, lots of deer and turkey and wild morrels to et in the spring. Go fishing in the old strip-pits.

Goshawk: I think Dougs major point in writing this is:"I love ticking off as many vapid, anti-American and anti-traditional values blowhards as I can. It is one of the chief joys of my life." BTW what is your favorite allround trap?
Mine used to be the old Northwoods #3 coilspring. Now I prefer the Victor 1.75 Canine-pro for yotes and cats.

RE: Hunting.
I loved this article. I am a card carring member of PETA:
PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS.
De Opresso Liber.

I feel a little clarification
is in order. In my haste of reading Doug's article. It struck me that he was a rich man out for pleasure and relief. And I apologize if I mis-read his meaning. And I also apologize to cat trapper, in that I didn't mean a normal hunter who mounts for remembrance. My comment was meant for what I call a "pure trophy hunter." One that goes for the sake of taking a trophy, and leaves the meat to rot.

And ParatroopRN:
I can see why you read in some things I didn't mean. My fault! I don't have the skill of a good writer. I just say what is on the top of my thoughts.

But you have to admit also that you assumed some things. When you said-- "but why hunt mountain lion for food." I didn't and won't. I killed a couple that were attacking our cattle. Same with with a couple of Black Bears. However the Bear meat was used and the hide turned into blankets.

I guess what I was trying to say, and not very well, is that I was born into hunting as a means of survival. And yes, I enjoy the hunt, as barbaric as it may seem to those who have no need or skills. When you can get your meat from a supermarket. It's not the killing of an animal, it is the adventure and the skill it takes to go one-on-one in the wilds. But not without purpose. Feed those in need.

cat trapper
I have no favorite trap. In fact I could not even relate to nomenclature as you have. I'm not a trapper per se' but have use steel traps to stop predators. Also, snares and dead-falls learned for the Lakota.

BTW, how did you come by the screen name "cat trapper?" Just curious.

Bear?
Oh yeah, mmmm, bear. Please! I am all for hunting for sustenace, even though there is a ton of food rotting on grocery shelves as we speak, but BEAR. Trophy and that is all, unless you are an Eskimo there is NO excuse. It is all a giant stroke for your huge egos. AHHHH did that feel good big guy? Bear?!

Goshawk
Chose my handle "Cat Trapper" for two reasons:

#1. and foremost to pi$$ liberals off,

#2. like catching bobcats. They are so snooty, much like the lib posters on TH. Plus they are the bread and butter pelts here in Oklahoma. Several years I've averaged $100 plus on my cats. The market is pretty stable as they are a high end pelt, takes about 5 minutes to skin one when they are still warm and they can go directly to the stretcher with little or no fleshing.

For a real challenge the 'yote is unsurpassed. They have keen eyes and a nose like a bloodhound with unmatched intelligence, but there is a lot of work involved there for a $16 check.

The City
I do not share your love of hunting or the great outdoors, I had my fill of it when I was in the army. I do object to your bad immitation of William Jennings Bryan, anther fundamentalist blowhard, in your objection to city life. Cities were and continue to be the center of civilization. Hatred of cities and the diverse people who live in them has been characteristic of a branch of American Protestantism since the 19th century. Like the environmentalists the anti-city fundamentalists share a hatred for their fellow humans, who either pollute the physical or moral environment. Doug should remember that Christianity first took root in the cities, and until Christianity can reclaim the city for themselves it will fail to fulfill the great commission.

Out in the woods
My father's idea of a vacation was to get as far into the woods as he could pull a camping trailer, and not have to talk to anybody he didn't want to. We fished, rather than hunted, streams in Western Montana, cold water up to our knees, with flies. My relationship with him was greatly enhanced by those times,and the campfires by the creek at night. I know that my brothers, nephews, and a few cousins and friends treasure those times in the woods. Thanks, Dad.

Get out of Florida
I share your view of Cuba north. Get out of Florida and find a city where they speak English. Hunting? Fine I guess but with all the regulations and restrictions and cost, it is not an adventure anymore. Of course you probably have money and connections so you can go to some "farm" and shoot with the elite, just avoid Cheney. He can't even get birding on a farm right.

Goshawk
No apology needed here, my friend. I am not a liberal and thus not offended easily. I too, share a great disdain for some "trophy" hunters and have seen their vile discards in the woods. About the only redeeming qualities they have are the taxes and license fees they pay which go to the state wildlife management's purse. And it must be said, that many sport hunters , even though they only want their trophies, do indeed give their meat to the less fortunate.

cat trapper
Re: screen name. Interesting! Thanks for the feed back.

movewater
Ha ha your right. A little steel rain goes with the territory.
And you know, folks like miensa have no clue about life. Like most Liberals. Which reminds me, I have a humerus bit about Liberals and the hunting situation. Take a look.

Subject: How Liberals came into existence

For centuries, humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer & would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in winter.


The two most important events in all of history were the invention
of the wheel, and the invention of beer. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups: Liberals and Conservatives.


Once beer was discovered it required grain, and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early human ancestors were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.


Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as "the Conservative movement."


Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement. Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as 'girliemen.'

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.


Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish, but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare. Another interesting revolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't "fair" to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, Marines, athletes and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to "govern" the producers and decide how to redistribute the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in later, after the Wild West was tamed, and created a business of trying to get MORE for nothing.

City and country
I'm a city girl and have been all my life. I remember relatives pitying me because I'd never seen a cow, and when Daddy took me to a farm to see one I could not figure out what the big deal was about them.

When I need to get away from all the blabberjabber of my life, the last place I would ever think about going would be the country. Since I can't drive, there's nothing for me to do in the country, and I'm allergic to mold, spores and fungus so generally my health suffers in the country.

When I get fed up with everybody and everything around me and need a break, I go to a good hotel and spend as much time as I can afford to spend, being pampered and catered to and looked after. When my kids were young I used to take them to the Embassy Suites for a weekend, sometimes with their best friends or cousins to keep them busy, and we'd enjoy ourselves with food, drink, swimming, pool tables, an evening cocktail party and a big morning breakfast, feeding the carp in the streams that meander through the place, and taking advantages of their video games and movies. The kids learned to order from room service and tip the waiter by the time they were eight, and how to behave in a public place at three. And best of all they learned the truth of Daddy's favourite maxim: "It's nice to have a yacht, but it's best to have a friend who has a yacht." That is, you can enjoy the good things of life without having to own them. Those things are there for you whenever you look around your house and say "I need a change!"

The important thing is to get the change of scene and air, and do what makes you feel good about life again.

Double-digit inflation
How sad that it takes so many unnecessary words to tell it like it is; i.e.-Doug really enjoys his time away from the office when hunting with his father and 3 best friends. Take me back to the days of "straight talk", devoid of inflation and invention. "Waste not, want not" applies to talk, food and many other subjects. Puffery and bull stuff are commonplace irritants among today's pundits. Edward R., please come back!

ya'll are a hoot...
LOL

Not just a hoot!
Y'all are a perfect example of why this country is in the mess it is..."Kill, Kill, Kill..Kill an enemy..and after you kill the enemy..kill a friend...after the friend, kill a rat and call it a whim..I am the sun..I like my world like that"..

I cannot remember the author but it says it all..and the worst part is.. you actually BELIEVE what you say. You actually BELIEVE that hunting signifies your manliness and that "they eat red meat and provide for their women"..what a joke.

The human race has not evolved..it just uses bigger and better guns. So when you get done with all your backwoods self serving hysteria, beat on your chests and drag your kills home to the real world of all those "poor people" that you are gonna save with your dead animals..perhaps you might take another look at that head on your wall and ask yourself where you got the RIGHT to take a life?

Do not tell me you needed the food..BS..you needed the sick sense of power you get from killing. You needed blood on your hands.. Whether its an animal or man. That is the nature of the beast...MAN (and some women who act like men!).

AND NO..I AM NOT A LIBERAL OR A CONSERVATIVE..I am a human being that chooses to live my life without a gun..I would say grow up but unfortunately age has nothing to do with it..you never have and you never will..so now you can have fun with this one..

Thanks for visiting, but please go home
when you are through.

If it isn't tourist season, it's hunting season. I guess folks have to get outa Dodge once in a while, but could ya all leave things as ya found them?

1. Big fancy cars are nice, but I'm not going to put my tractor in the ditch so you can drive down the middle of the road. If we both git over a little, it's big enough for both of us, altho you might get a little mud on your tires.

2. If you don't see any deer, shootin yer gun 10 times in a minute isn't going to make them come out of the woods to greet you. And it will annoy the heck out of the other hunters too.

3. Please don't tell me that if I ever need any help you'll be glad to help out. You show up a day or two a year to hunt. When thars work to be done, yer not here. I don't even know yer name. Just say thanks for letting you hunt. That'l work

4. Please, when yer done, go home. Don't move here. My taxes are too high as it is. I don't want to pay for a new high school for yer kids.

City folk huntin or touristing are fun to watch. I wish they wouldn't leave their unwanted kitties though.


Movwater:
movwater writes: Saturday, September, 16, 2006 11:29 PM
Re: Heat. And Goats.
"Subject: How Liberals came into existence"

Perfect!

As far as I am concern the DH rule ruined baseball for me forever, even if the National League pitchers remain studs!

I am beginning to feel the same about Football and protecting the QB. Iron men playing on a gridiron! Actually, professional football hasn't been the same since the "platoon system" was adopted. The last real ironman, IMMHO, was Chuck Bednarik, who played both Center and Linebacker for the Philadelphia Eagles. In Phillies last Championship season, 1960, Chuck put Frank Gifford of the New York Giants out of football for a year, with one of the most famous tackles in NFL history. I was at Franklin Field in Philadelphia and watch Chuck play in his last NFL game, the 1960 NFL National Championship Game against Vince Lombardi's Green Bay Packers, the year before the Packer's dynasty. The Eagles beat Green Bay 17-13. Chuck broke Packer's Running Back, Paul Hornung, the Golden Boy, arm on a goal-line stand that ended the game. They don't make like that anymore.
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Sorry, movwater, I had to copy it here to make sure I got your quote right. Not to go too far off the subject: I read about that game (Bednarik's) in a book (I wasn't born yet); in that book, the story was that Bednarik was sitting on Hornung as time expired, which was a picture most Eagles' fans still cherish. Literally true or figure of speech? (and no, nothing was mentioned of the Golden Boy's broken arm in the book I read.)

Where the blacktop ends
This column is an unfortunate piece of chest-beating self-promotion from a writer who, even more unfortunately, seems to appear regularly here. It's kind of like warmed-over Hemingway, but with no real style or empathy for any others.

I write this as a Vietnam veteran who is not a hunter (but saw a fair bit of gang-related violence while growing up), and can only assume that you ran this crapola mainly because it was a slow Sunday and not on its "merits." Sic semper the "bulldog attitude?"

Keeping up with the Trumps
I wouldn't know a gucci bag from a coochie coochie coo knapsack but a friend of mine was once wearing a basball jacket which he told me cost 500 bucks. But I said it looks just like any other baseball jacket, why pay $500 for it? That's the idea, that way no on ewill steal it.

Comments
Hunting:
Hunted as a teenager, enjoyed it. Provided squirrel and frog legs to neighbors.

Last 40 years have been spent in too urban an area with too little time/money, but I do not begrudge Mr. Giles' hunting trips.

The bottom line is that is HIS way to "get otta Dodge" Doesn't work for everyone.( See previous posts by his various critics).

Cities:
Cities can stifle you. Cities can feed you,
but I would question Theodore's comment

" Cities were and continue to be the center of civilization. Hatred of cities and the diverse people who live in them has been characteristic of a branch of American Protestantism since the 19th century. "

Cities like Moscow, Bejing, Tehran? or do we mean Washington , San Francisco Las Vegas?

Shoot Him First
"I am a human being that chooses to live my life without a gun"

FREEDOM
"The human race has not evolved"

You say you're not a liberal, yet you invoke their creation myth? That's a bit like a young earth creationist claiming not to be a biblicist.

Hunting and politics and rednicks and al
Anybody try Alaska? We have it all up here, no contests. Only thing I wasnt' able to hunt up here were havilina. Did that in Arizona. Good eating. Kept the tusks, however, not for trophy, but because we couldn't eat them too.
Everyday life lived up here is what many who live elsewhere pay thousands of dollars for just a few weeks to come here and fish and hunt. Life is good, and we give Thanks for it and appreciate it.

Euphoria
I can relate to Doug. I just (last night) returned for a 5 day trip (plane) to visit a sister and her family in Tucson. Fortunately my laptop would not boot up so it was sent out for repair before I left.

The total relaxing, almost to the point of boring, was fantastic. I'm 64, a semiretied remodeler but still extremely passionate about my work, great customers, and my industry. To not think about them was like a trip to heaven. I did do some repairs for sis around the house, and even they were a cathartic (sp?) exercise and really enjoyable. So I've now decided to change my work habits, reduce my 28-30 hour work week, and take similar trips more often and really enjoy life as it should be.


TO 'FREEDOM'
I believe there is plenty of room for all of God's creatures, right next to my baked potato.

Yawn
As a Catholic, a conservative, and a Republican, nevetheless I have to say- your "kick a** Christer" schtick is getting really tired, Dougie.

Just my .02.

Howee
Easy enough to fix. Stop reading.

The tay
What- Dougie can't be called out or criticized?

Even easier- Dougie can change his schtick.

On Hunting
The only remorse I ever feel is when an animal is wounded and then can't be found. I hate gophers more than liberals, but it pains me when I hit one and it gets down the hole and suffers.

The thing I like best about hunting here is that I have never once seen any tree-huggers out there enjoying the nature they love so very, very much.
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