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Wednesday, May 20, 2009
Donald Lambro :: Townhall.com Columnist
Is the stimulus superfluous?
by Donald Lambro
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WASHINGTON -- The biggest unasked question in today's economy is whether it has started turning around before President Obama's spending-stimulus program has fully gotten under way. There is growing evidence that the U.S. economy is showing signs of life amid increasing reports that Obama's nearly $800 billion economic stimulus is trickling into the economy at an ever-slower pace. We've had two back-to-back months of increased existing-home sales. Banks are making a comeback as the administration's stress tests largely acknowledged. Bank of America's stock rose by nearly 10 percent Monday after a favorable recommendation from Goldman Sachs, as did other financial equities. Bank deposits are up, mortgage loans are rising, suggesting that credit has begun flowing again, and we are seeing an uptick in construction.

This week, the National Association of Home Builders (NAHB) put out a report saying that builders' confidence in the market for new homes climbed for the second straight month. David Crowe, NAHB's chief economist, said the renewed confidence level "indicates that home builders feel we're at or near the bottom of the market." And the decline in housing prices appears to be slowing.

Consumer confidence is rising, too, though retail sales remain sluggish and unemployment, now at 8.9 percent, continues to rise, but the signs suggest the economy clearly has begun bottoming out.

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, who has been the unsung hero in the Fed's heavy lifting in this recovery, predicted as much. "We continue to expect economic activity to bottom out, then to turn up later this year," he told lawmakers earlier this month. "The pace of contraction may be slowing." The White House maintains, of course, that all of this is the result of the administration's economic stimulus and its other recovery policies. But there are reports to the contrary that suggest the flow of infrastructure spending to the states has been slow and that much of the critical decision-making at the U.S. Treasury has been "on hold" because of bureaucratic snafus, White House micromanaging and unfilled job slots in key positions.

Late last month, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a report on Obama's infrastructure spending that estimated that only $49 billion of the nearly $300 billion being sent to the states would be spent by the end of fiscal year 2009.

The report, said Brendan Buck of the House Republican Study Committee, "reveals that stimulus dollars are mired in typical glacial bureaucratic processes."

Among the GAO's findings on the stimulus act's Highway Infrastructure Investment spending: Only "two of the 16 states (studied) had agreements (with the Department of Transportation) covering more than 50 percent of their states' apportioned funds, and three states did not have agreements on any projects."

In a front-page article last week, the New York Times elaborated on the GAO's findings under the headline, "Stimulus Aid Trickles Out, but States Seek Quicker Relief."

The Times' findings: "Nearly three months after President Obama approved a $787 billion economic-stimulus package, intended to create or save jobs, the federal government has paid out less than 6 percent of the money, largely in the form of social-service payments to states."

While the White House and the president say that the program is right on track and creating jobs, "they have actually spent relatively little so far," the Times said.

Over at Treasury, decision-making has slowed to a crawl or delayed altogether. While Secretary Timothy F. Geithner and the White House have made dramatic proposals, "carrying out those policies has bogged down because critical decisions about how to do so aren't being made," the Washington Post's David Cho reported Monday. Nearly four months into Obama's presidency, the department is without a deputy secretary and other top people are missing from its senior ranks.

The result: After announcing a plan to relieve banks of toxic assets, it isn't clear who will carry out its details. After announcing a $15 billion plan in March to open up credit for small businesses, "it is still struggling to get off the ground" after officials said it would not work.

The trouble is as much Geithner's inability to manage a bureaucracy as large as Treasury as it is the White House's propensity to micromanage all of its decision-making -- right down to the design of the department's Web site.

Meantime, the economy seems to be making a comeback of its own, and some economists are suggesting that maybe much of Obama's stimulus-spending plan isn't needed.

When I asked American Enterprise Institute economist Kevin Hassett whether he thought that a lot of the stimulus spending may come too late and may not be needed at all, he replied, "You raise a good point, if the third quarter starts out strong after a good second quarter, then we might well have too much stimulus."

But the political reality is that if the economy begins to improve in the second half of this year, as many predict it will, the administration will claim that it is due to its stimulus spending -- even when very little of it has been spent.

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True: Bernanke is hero.
When "spendulous" was passed, Wall Street did not like it. The markets plunged for 3 weeks. It was being called the Obama Bear Market.

In early March, the stock indexes reversed, and they have been climbing ever since.

What happened? Look at the press releases from the Federal Reserve Board for a big clue.

On March 3rd, the Fed announced TALF (Term Asset-backed Loan facility) in conjuntion with the Treasury Department. "The TALF has the potential to generate up to $1 trillion of lending ...."

I recall the Fed announced on March 18th they would purchase about $300 billion of Treasury securities and also they would purchase something like $800 billion of mortage securities, (I can not find the news release).

The Fed has injected trillions of dollars of liquidity. That is why markets are going up. The credit crisis is being solved by the Fed.

Ben Bernanke is the hero. Shame on Obama for falsely taking credit for soemthing he did not do.

FOOLS--THIS WAS SO PREDICTABLE
I have been telling associates for months:

If someone handed me 30 million dollars, could I spend it in one year?

No, I would have to hire attorneys, another accountant or two, find banks to hold it, create a great beaucracy to help me manage it, DUH.

DID ANYONE REALLY THINK THAT 800 BILLION COULD BE PUT INTO THE ECONOMY WITH NO PLANNING? IN MONTHS?

WITH NO BEAURACRATIC BUMBLING? PLEASE DO NOT TELL ME THIS WAS UNPREDICTABLE.

FANTASIES ARE USUALLY DAYDREAMS AND ALL AMERICANS WERE FANTASIZING TO THINK THIS SCAM WAS GOING TO HELP.

ONLY FOOLS BELIEVED THIS RAPE OF THE PUBLIC COFFERS WOULD WORK.

QUIT YER DRINKING AND WAKE UP.


ROWDY BOOTS

The American People
It has always been the american people who would be responsible for the recovery and it has always been the politicos who would claim credit.

Good Deal???

Only a Liberal would believe spending $300,000 to create a $40,000 a year job is a good deal.

Ya Think?
Ha, ha, a "former" moooslim race baiting lawyer, with ZERO experience in the private sector, ZERO experience as a business owner, ZERO experience serving in uniform, is now re-making the United States according to his socialist-Utopian view.

Ain't it amazing how much you can get done if Soros and Oprah finance you and the media act as your cheerleaders?

Bernake a Hero?
Ben Bernanke a hero? Get real! The Federal Reserve is behind this whole debacle. When are people going to realize this group of greedy money mongers raise and lower interest to suit themselves. They are behind the recession and the inflation folks! Get educated as to who they are.
These are 12 private banks who are backed by foreign as well as domestic shareholders. They create money out of thin air with nothing to back it. They are in charge of YOUR money!
Get on the internet and google up Louis.T. McFadden's speech to Congress 9 March 1933. He tells it like it is.(by the way this is recorded in the Congressional Record)
Bernake is the sneaky magician who is appearing to you as an angel of light when he is indeed an instrument of Satan.

Double taxation
If the Fed would be abolished and Congress would return to making our money (they haven't done it since 1913) and return to the gold & silver standard, the economy would recover in a short while. Did you know that the Fed pays no Federal or State taxes? Did you know that they only pay taxes on the realestate where their buildings sit? Did you know that the money they loan out (manufactured by our treasury) only costs them $.06 per bill regardless of denomination? Did you know that for the most part they have never been audited?
This stimulous bill is a joke as far as the American everyday working citizen is concerned. It would not surprise me one bit that if you receive a check, it will be counted to you as income and you will be required to pay double income tax on it. (double in that it's given to you from the taxes you have already paid.

Fed 101
The Federal Reserve Board explains itself with its "Fed 101".

Those not familiar with the Fed may find it worthwhile.

http://www.federalreserveeducation.org/fed101/index.htm?CFI D=5136354&CFTOKEN=54654020

I would further suggest ready about monetary policy in particular.

If people take the time to understand the subject, they are less likely to spout off on the Town Hall Forum with a psot that defies logic and insults Ben Bernanke.

Again, Ben Bernake is the hero. His leadership and expertise are pulling the USA out of this extraordinary financial crisis.


IS OBAMA SUPERFLUOUS?
Is our President in any way connected to reality? My school district will fire hundreds of teachers this year while the President (AND our governor) assure the continued existence of a San Francisco swamp rat, take over GMC, force junk cars on the public, and worry about climate change. It's all one huge disconnect. We are speaking different languages here, living in different worlds.

If men are from Venus and woman from Mars, the President is from the Twilight Zone.

I missed the quote
>The White House maintains, of course, that all of this is the result of the administration's economic stimulus and its other recovery policies.<

Where and when did the White House make this claim?

Where does this President get off
making policy and legal decisions? Who appointed him decision-maker of car standards? What happened to representative democracy, or did we vote that away, too?

Nero fiddles while the Muslim world prepares to burn Rome.

Not quite a quote...
Pancho...VP Biden has stated that the Stimulus Plan has saved 150,000 jobs. There is no evidence to support his claim.

"All of this"
While it's common knowledge that VP Biden has an incurable case of foot in mouth disease, it's possible that the stimulus/spending plan has saved numerous jobs,

But Biden is not the White House, and job saving wasn't the "all of it" to which Lambro referred. He concentrated on housing, banks and credit, with nary a mention of jobs, although it's obviously related in the big economic picture.

When did it become a conservative principle to blindly accept dishonest rhetoric in an attempt to score some political points?


Pancho: WHAT? "...saved numerous jobs?"

Have you checked the unemployment numbers?

And the "two back-to-back months of increased existing-home sales." FORECLOSURES!


Toward double digit unemployment rate
The unemployment rate in April was 8.9%. The rate has been incresing by about 0.4% to 0.5% each month. There are no indications that this trend will have changed in May. Weekly new unemployment claims are still above 600,000.

Accordingly, we can predict the unemployment rate will pass 10% by mid summer.

Why would anyone believe any statements that the Administration saved 150,000 jobs? That makes no sense at all, and it has not been verified with any evidence.

The Fed will lie
DG in Kentucky: Fed 101 explains itself. Yes and the victors of war write the history books.
May I suggest that you find out from different sources other than an auto biographical sketch of the FED.
Here's one written March 9, 1933 by an honorable member of the House of Representatives named Louis T. McFadden. It is rather long, but if you are interested in the REAL TRUTH of the Fed. You can Google his name and the date of the speech. Also, this speech is a part of the Congressional Record.
I do not blame you for being taken in by their own egotistical biography. I was too, until I learned the truth.
"America's Caesar" by Greg Loren Durand also tells the story of this economic cancer on American economics.
President Andrew Jackson also denounced and had it abolished (then called a Central Bank)

Hummm .......
Is it over before it is fixed? That is, are we seeing reliable signs of a recovery beginning before the TRILLIONS of the Democrat's dollars are spent & the spending is totally wasteful pork spending? I wonder!

unemployment figures
Since I'm not seeing the mainstream reporting unemployment figures and since I have a deep distrust of the media in this country, I assume the numbers are bad. Any good news for Obama would be screamed loudly and daily. No, I don't believe the stimulus will work.

The Fed
Did the Fed lie just like the CIA lied to Nancy P?

Sorry, Darrel, but you are getting nowhere at all. Also, sorry that Fed 101 was not understandable to you.

Ben Bernanke is the hero who is leading us out of this credit crisis. That's how things are.

Barry the Big Eared Chimp....
Michigan is at 13% unemployment, with some predicting that we will hit 20% in less than another year.

Instead of making our state and our country more attractive to business, Barry-boy makes it more unattractive, since sticking with his socialist utopian philosophy is the number one priority for him.

It's called a planned, command and control economy. If it worked, the USSR and Red China would still be around and thriving.

Barry the big eared chimp in the White House is a classic "central planner", trying to craft an economy that adheres to his utopian dreams. Which means that only the "right", that is, politically corrrect and politically connected firms and industries will prosper under our big eared Fabian Socialist in Chief.



0.8 Trillion Flushed Down the Toilet
Any halfway intelligent and creative person could have come up with a better stimulus. We could have rebuilt our infrastructure with that money. Now consider Robert Byrd's deadend highway, Mutha's private airport, new lawns for govt offices, and how about those bizarre research studies. It's beyond stupid.

Bernanke is no hero
Injecting "liquidity" (aka inflating the currency) isn't making things better. Sure, the MARKET numbers are going up, but not because anything is improving but because, well, all those dollars being printed out of nothing have to settle in somewhere and the first things that go up in value are bank stocks when currency is inflated. They're the first ones who get the money. Their operations aren't actually improving any.

Bernanke is no hero, he's doing the exact same illusory stop-gap garbage that Greenspan did. Get ready for another bubble bust in a few years, folks.

Try looking
>Since I'm not seeing the mainstream reporting unemployment figures<

They're released every month. It's amusing that you have a deep mistrust of the media in this country, which has the most versatile and free press in the world(including Townhall) but can't find unemployment figures.

Stop the Stimulus
The republicans should be pushing for a repeal of the stimulus based on current evidence. They can compromise on a temporary freeze on releasing funds until the GDP numbers for the 3rd quarter are published. Even though they will not get their way, this would control the agenda and make it more difficult for the O-team to claim credit later. It might even put pressure on the Socialists (Democrats) to cut or repeal the stimulus later when it becomes obvious it is not needed.

1.3 Million Jobs Lost

Since the stimulus Bill passed, the labor department reports 1.3 million jobs have been lost.

Way to go Liberals!!!

Follow the Money
Who benefits from this spending? The gubmint of course. Every appropriation I've heard attributed to the program has been paid to a gubmint entity, state or local with the attendant strings on how it can be spent.
What type of projects are being financed with this money? Reports indicate that many of them are of the block grant category which are spent for general operating expenses of state or local govts. Another much ballyhooed category id the "shovel ready" project. These are projects which have been through the tortuous process of design, engineering, enviro-impact, bidding, etc that can take years. This means that these are things that were going to be done already, but were waiting for funding. The gubmint already spends truckloads of cash on infrastructure projects every year, so how can this be regarded as an extrordinary spending?
How much of this money will be lost to fraud? If recent examples, such as TARP, hold to form we can expect $80-100 billion to be paid to nonexistant entities, scammers, relatives & friends of bureaucrats, or just slip through the cracks.

Fed
No, Justin, the money is not being printed. You, too may wish to read Fed 101.

Ben Bernanke is the hero.

Darrel & Justin
I agree with both of you.

D G you must be one of Bernanke's gong beaters, because you can't possibly believe that either he or the corrupt Federal Reserve Bank are the heroes in all of this! If you really do believe that crap, then I have some beach front property on the western border of Arizona that I'd like to talk to you about! As long as these morons continue to support Keynesian economics, things will not change!

re:Statism!!!!
Look, all this bill was designed to do was to expand the federal gov. to a point that it can be so powerful that the people of this country have no way to change it with the vote!!!! Look, what has happened in Calif. the voters vote aginst a measure and the feds over turn it with a crappy court ruling!!! Look, this is generational debt plain and simple, and this country is looking at a major revolt if this peepee ruling elite clown class in Wash. don't get their act together, and that goes for the WH also!!!! The clock is ticking cubbies!!!

Verify
Bruce, if you don't mind, please verify your remarks with sources and links. Thanks.

Wall Street believes in Ben Bernanke. Look at my first post which did include sources of info.

Also, please post photos of the AZ beach.

D G
OK then, if the money isn't being printed, where is the Federal Reserve getting it all? The Fed doesn't produce a product. They don't produce a service. They sure as H aren't borrowing it from anyone. So, where does the money come from? It gets printed, that is all the Fed is capable of doing.

Federal Reserve accounting is a joke in the accounting profession. They're the ONLY entity in the USA that is capable of producing a number in the asset column of the balance sheet without accumulating a liability or any equity. Every dollar they loan out isn't backed by anything, it just came from the general pool of "good faith and credit", whatever that's going to buy you. Try pulling that in your accounting course and you get an F. Pull that in the central bank, people like you praise them to high heaven.

No, Bernanke isn't a hero, he's a Keyenesian and they're the people that got us in trouble in the first place. Anyone that legitimately believes that you can create something from nothing is a fool.

Also, why should I read "fact" sheets generated from the Fed? It's in their best interest to not tell us their faults. These days, the only people defending the Federal Reserve are employees or former employees.

D G Part 2
Of course Wall Street believes in Bernanke, they're the first people to get the phantom money. The people who benefit the most from an inflationary monetary system are the people who get their hands on them first, meaning bankers and Wall Street. The regular guys, like us, have to wait a year for our COLA to kick in and anything we saved gets diluted in favor of Wall Street and bankers.

You need to always check the motive behind a belief.

Results
I was thinking of results, Justin. Fed's monetary polcies are thawing out the credit markets. They are directly attacking a key reason why the economy is in recession. Accordingly, Ben Bernake and the Fed are leading the economy out of the recession.

I'm sorry the Fed 101 is too difficult for you to understand. Also, your remarks about their accounting are untrue, but if you do not agree, feel free to verify you opinion with sources to verify.

The Obama Administration is not leading the USA out of recession. The Federal Resverve Board is leading the USA out of recession. I wish it were possible for it to happen sooner.

Obama is not the hero.

Bernanke is the hero.

That is how things are.

D G
Thanks for the ad hominem attack. I know who to ignore.

Fed 101
DG are you afraid to check it out? You are deluded or either you are a professional blogger. Have you read what I suggested or do you always open your mouth before you put your brain in gear?
Do you believe everything the government tells you or in this case a group of private banks that are not even connected to the government?
That neighbor is the problem. Of course 101 is going to build up the Fed. They composed it themselves.

Fed
Darrel .. The McFadden opinion pertained to events of 1933 and prior. My calendar says it is now 2009.

Justin... Sorry, but I replied to your remarks.

One more time, I was talking about results. The credit crisis of recent months was extremely harmful, and the Fed has taken aggressive steps to thaw the credit freeze.


Inflation...
"There is growing evidence that the U.S. economy is showing signs of life amid increasing reports that Obama's nearly $800 billion economic stimulus is trickling into the economy at an ever-slower pace."

Naturally they are careful not to spend the money quickly. The money has to come out of the very economy it is supposed to "stimulate", and the means they are using is inflation, which is merely continuing Bush policy. You see gas prices on the rise again - the most significant indicator of inflation. Let's hope they moderate the inflation so we don't see $4 a gallon gas, like last year under dictator Bush. The economy slid dramatically downward when that happened, but they had to have the money to pay our stimulus checks, on top of all the other spending.

Excrete statistics!
I will tell you some reality,folks!
Food is going up,up,up!Jobs are going down,
down! This is fact!I know people all over my area that have lost their jobs! And the traffic shows it! And the banks are doing better? Gee, isn't that nice they are having a ball w/our money!And our childrens money! Soo Obarfa is trying to buy some nice headlines w/our money!
If America has 1/2 of a brain the next election will be about the economy,PERIOD!
You can fight about the social things after you win the election!And forget the partisan
crap! Just elect a smart person who knows the economy and will purge the fat out!
Well, lookie here in Ca. even the liberals
did not want all the tax increases Arnie was pushing !You know why, it would come out of
thier pockets,too!We need a revolution,now!
I get the feeling that Lambro is an "oooshy"
guy!Marshmellow w/out the sugar!
Elvis

The weather broke
Half the nation was in freezing weather. I saw last week a plane overiced and went down killing 49 aboard.
Every year about this time the top half the nation warms up and wala - 505 boom in housing starts - and everyone pretends it's news, good news, and never seems to know why - other than it's good.
IT WAMRED UP - WE CALL IT SPRING HERE, AND THERE WON'T BE ANYMORE SNOW IN OBAMALAND TILL AFTER FALL.
We've been working on our homes now or building new ones.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
That's why your article cited housing and contstruction, the only uptick it cited.
Otherwise unemployment is rising, - and consumer spending - well a bit up since you can trollop to the store or mall in shorts now - in the upper half of the USA.
DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
It's got BUPKISS to do with the insane thievery of the otaker and crew.

Hey here's an idea
I know what we can do - the beastly leviathan can just give all their government leeches and employees a ten percent raise every year. Since they're 1/3rd of all workers being paid, we'll get their ~3.33% GDP rise for their stat.
Wala, a perfect libtard economy.

Prune out the weak
The economy needs to adjust every so often. The weak are tossed to the side the strong get larger and the needs of the market allow for the growth of new companys. But politicians cannot allow a great opportunity for a power grab to pass them by. This time they are taking over two auto companies and a few banks. God help us as we allow our politicians to destroy the American way of life.
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