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Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Donald Lambro :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama's Tax Cuts Look Like "Welfare",
by Donald Lambro
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WASHINGTON -- Barack Obama has a disturbing habit of saying things that are not true, such as no one who makes less than $250,000 will pay higher taxes under his tax plans.

He is running saturation ads around the country saying this, but the fact is that lots of people will be paying higher taxes beneath that income level (which will raise the top marginal tax rate from 35 percent to nearly 40 percent). In fact, millions of Americans who now pay no income taxes will get "refundable" checks from the government under his plan (but more on that in a minute).

The liberal senator would raise capital-gains tax rates on the sale of stocks or other assets on the gain in their value when they're sold. That would mean higher taxes on millions of American families preparing for their retirement.

He'd raise taxes on dividends, too, that would impose higher taxes on Americans whose income depends on those hard-earned dividends.

If you run a small business that earns $250,000 or more and you pay taxes on its earnings as an individual taxpayer (though you pay yourself less than that), you will be hit by his higher income tax.

His plan proposes to get rid of a lot of corporate tax "loopholes," which would mean higher taxes that would be passed on to their customers who make a lot less than $250,000.

But the most disingenuous part of his tax plan is his claim that he will give 95 percent of all American workers a "tax cut," because he does not mention that it will mean sending checks to millions of tax filers who pay no personal income taxes.

Critics say that looks "suspiciously like welfare" or income redistribution from wealthier taxpayers to lower-income Americans. But it also raises the question, How can he call it a "tax cut" when its recipients pay no income taxes?

Under his "Making Work Pay" income tax cut for low- to middle-income people, he will give a "refundable" $500 tax credit to low- to middle-income workers or $1,000 to couples. It would begin to phase out at $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for a couple.

But because he makes it "refundable," he will pay the equivalent amount to those who have no income-tax liability after taking the usual tax credits and deductions in the tax code. Those checks would come from taxes to be paid by higher-income Americans.

The Internal Revenue Service says nearly 46 million tax filers -- one-third of all filers -- had no tax liability in 2006, so you can hardly call this a tax cut because they pay no taxes.

"What he's really talking about doing is mailing a check and, to me, that looks more like a welfare program than the kind of real tax relief that would encourage work, savings and investments," said Phil Kerpen, policy director at Americans for Prosperity, a free-market advocacy group.

Obama claims that almost all workers (95 percent) will benefit from his "tax cuts." But Investor's Business Daily points out that Obama's "'working families' does not include all households. Throw in singles, retirees, students and the unemployed, and the share getting some tax-related benefit is a good deal less."

The Tax Policy Center, a nonpartisan tax-analysis group established by the liberal Urban Institute and the Brookings Institution, dismisses his 95 percent figure, saying that about 80 percent of households would receive a tax cut. Throw in the tens of millions of tax filers who owe no taxes, and the percentage of taxpayers getting real tax cuts falls a lot lower.

The Obama campaign's chief economist Jason Furman told me in an e-mail that "the tens of millions of families working hard and paying payroll taxes do not think that tax cuts are a form of 'welfare' or 'redistribution' -- they think it is only fair to reward work."

Roberton Williams of the Tax Policy Center said "one can argue" that workers who don't pay income taxes "are paying Social Security payroll taxes, and this is a tax cut against that."

But is this just another clever way for Obama to redistribute the nation's income, taking from high-income taxpayers who pay the lion's share of all income taxes and giving it to lower-income workers who pay none?

Williams doesn't dispute this. "You could view it that way because both (tax) proposals are in the same tax plan," he said. "There's no question that's one way to perceive the tax plan." Exactly.

So this is what's at the core of Obama's economic policies -- taking more money from one group of taxpayers and directly transferring it to those in the lower- to middle-income tax brackets who pay little or no income taxes to begin with.

Instead of cutting everyone's taxes to encourage work, investment and savings by enlarging the economic pie, Obama would redivide the pie into smaller slices and redistribute it through the tax system.

This is the Europeanization of the economy that awaits us under an Obama presidency.

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Sharing the wealth
I get it. I will work my entire adult life to save up a nest egg so I may enjoy my retirement. However, I must share it with people too lazy to educate themselves to get higher pay jobs and who waste their money instead of saving it.

"It's only fair" says BO.

Hey. What happened to the concept about consequences for actions? Is that obsolete in BO's mind?

Democrat Communism!
This is where the govenment gets elected by giving an entitlement society all it needs (WELFARE) and call it 95% taxpayer tax cut.
Then the govenment lets everyone keep their assets on paper just so you can pay taxes on the those assets.
In the meantime that the remaining 5% is going to have the job of its increased the tax burden for all the DEBT.
When this collapses the government will own everything and not be able to run the country.
But at least our air will be clean and the environment will be safe from no production or jobs.

No Robin Hood
B Hussin is just someone from the hood doin' the robbing.
A tax increase on 5% of America can not pay all the socialist welfare that has been promised to deliver votes.
A walfare nation will corrupt the incentive to produce to a nation of users.

Obama's Negative Reinforcement
The way his plan works the more you earn the less you get from the government. Why work harder to get ahead? You may make more from your job but experience a loss of income through a decreasing subsidy from the government.

Bottom line on this scam is Obama wants people relying on government and he wants to punish those he see as winning life's lottery by being smart and willing to work hard. Sounds more like 1920s Russia.

Please pass this video...
...to everyone on your email lists -- as a reminder for some, and as an instructional tool for others -- about the dangers of socialist/marxist ideology.

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20081012YB




Don't help me PLEASE!
A lot of good a $550 tax break will do me if I'm out of a job and the cost of goods and services goes up $2500 a year.

Some tax break.

Obama's economic plan will hurt the very people he is aspiring to help!

Hello Euro-America. I'm actually better off not working and allow someone else to pay for my life.

Sickening
This is so sickening, and it's even more sickening to see all those people at the Obama rallies just clapping with joy as they are being told they are going to get screwed! My gosh, what is wrong with these people?! The are excited about supporting a Socialist!

curious
Why are conservatives bothered by Obama's claim that he will cut taxes for 95% of Americans based on the fact that many americans don't pay federal income tax, but unbothered by McCain's claims that he will cut taxes for 100% of Americans? The argument against Obama's claim works even better against McCain's claim.

The reason it works better is that, of course, not paying federal income tax is not the same as not paying any tax. And Obama's plan benefits 95% of Americans directly while McCain's does not.

So is there any explanation for this disparity other than partisanship and a lack of concern for accuracy?

Obama's Tax Plan
It isn't like welfare it is the largest expansion of welfare in history. To say that those who pay no Federal income taxes and receive a check will get a tax reduction because they pay Social Security taxes is diingenuous at best, and a deliberate misrepresentation at worst, since Social Security benefits are directly related to taxes paid into the system. There is no mention that the "reduction" in payroll tax burden will result in benefit reduction the gimmick is still welfare and not a tax cut. Furman says people think hard work should be rewarded, of course they do, all 100% of people not 95%. The question is who get's to spend the product of that effort, politicians and welfare receipients or those who earned it.

Fairness
My husband and I own a small business, which we started 10 years ago. We have worked hard, sacrificed, stressed, all in order to make a better life for us and our children. So now here comes Barack Obama telling us that it is only "fair" of us to pay more taxes so he may redistribute it. How is that fair? Especially if will probably mean we will have to lay off some of the 20 people who work for us and depend on this job to feed their families. My children are asking us why Daddy worked so hard to get where we are, and they can take it away and give it to someone who didnt earn it? Darn good question!!! Is this to be our new lesson to our children, dont worry honey, you dont need to be able to take of yourself, the government will take money from someone else to do it for you, because if you do work hard you will be the one they take it from. Here is to the Death of the American Dream!!

this is why
Obama will win in November. He's buying votes. With my money.

Andrea
No, you haven't been listening! Obama's plan will CREATE jobs. Just pay those higher taxes and everything will be OK. I hear he may kick in a $3K tax credit so that you can hire some new employees. Wow, I bet three thousand bucks is going to get you some high quality workers. Yup. Robin Hood '08.

QUOTES?
A democratic candidates quote from the past---"I voted for the war, before I voted against it"
The newer democratic candidates version----
"I voted (94 times) against tax cuts, before I voted for them".
'TRUTH and CONSEQUENCE'?
'TRUTH'--b.H.obama will have the current administrations 'tax cut' expire or overturn it even before its experation. 'CONSEQUENCE'--This will be a significant TAX INCREASE for EVERYONE!!!!(who happen to pay taxes). The already 'unwealthy' in the 15% tax bracket become substantially 'poorer' being put back into the 28% tax bracket!!!!
How is it that Americans are so uninformed that the democratic candidate is 'going to raise taxes, before he cuts them'. He's certainly not going to cut taxes back to where they are today.
The conservative candidate will at least try to make the current tax rate permanent--however the democratic party in power in Congress will prevent that.
EVERYONE (who actually pay taxes) will be paying HIGHER taxes--EVERYONE.
This must be what the majority of Americans want, for they put the democrats in power in Congress and are about to hand over 'total' power to the liberal left 'taxinators'. And if they do
Americans will be listening to the new and improved version of "BYE,BYE,MISS AMERICAN PIE" sung by 'Barry and the Exterminators'.

It all doesn't matter to....
...those who worship obama. They don't think, and truly believe that they'll be living a life free from the consequences of their personal decisions. obama people want to be parented by government, and that's all that counts to them.

Listen to this exchange from the Howard Stern show:

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=194983

Mind boggling.

Wake Up, America, or Die in Your Sleep!!
The so-called "victims" of America's assumed current racism are making an effort to rise up and gain restitution via the presidency of BHO. Blacks see this as racial warfare, while whites are so absorbed with pc'ness and the fairy tale of the first black pres that they have blinded themselves to the DANGERS OF A TOTALITARIAN SOCIALIST OBAMA REGIME.

This is why John McCain is a patent fool, an idiot as it relates to this campaign, for taking Jeremiah Wright off the table; those tapes show the racial warfare mindset of Obama and his followers. I'm tired of McCain's f..'n mindless "respectful campaign." If he wants to sell himself out because of the Senate Club civility, fine, but he does not have the right to sell out the rest of us. I thought this guy was going to to fight for "blessed America" and instead he is, I believe, worrying about his image as an "elder statesman" in the Senate if he loses. He was a hero, but he is showing a sickening level of cowardice in this election. McCain was willing to fight dirty to get the nomination (ask Mitt Romney), now he thinks he's at a tea party.

We're going to have to drag McCain over the finish line.

Wake up, America, or die in your sleep!!

wisdom
"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."

-- Alexis DeTocqueville

Ron wrote:
"...since Social Security benefits are directly related to taxes paid into the system"
*************
Ummm, sorry, not quite true. SS benefits are directly tied to gross income, not taxes paid. The caveat, however, is that there is a maximum benefit paid, regardless of how much your gross income is.

It is true, theoretically, that the more you make, the more taxes you pay, but 2 people making $100K will get the same benefit, regardless of how much they are able to reduce their tax liability thru deductions.

Income redistribution
Obama has now gone on record saying income redistribution is a good thing. Straight out of Marxism; from those according to their abilities to those according to their needs. Amnerica has NEVER done this; we give to those who are unfortunate and we give money to stimulate the economy. We don't simply take from one person and give to another. Obama also said healthcare is a RIGHT. He has associated with communists, radicals, and those who believe our society is oppressive and that capitalism is inherently unfair. Folks need to wake up here and see where the train is headed.

Worse yet, we are in the process of nationalizing mortgages, banks, and the car industry. If Obama is elected, I suspect he won't give this back. Hugo Chavez will be envious!

Mustang Freddy
O yea, Thanks for reminding me! Wow, I feel so much better!

His ideas will cause job loss
His ideas will cause the economy to sink into a depression.
Our taxes will go up because he will not renew George's tax breaks.
Obama does not care about the middle-class.
I don't want OBAMA to care about me.
I don't want any government handouts.
I want the government to pave roads, build bridges, keep crime off of our streets and protect our borders and private property.
OBAMA wants to change America because he doesn't like George Washington and our Founding Fathers version. He likes the old Soviet Version. And HOPES he can implement it here.
God help us! God is our only hope!

Dr.Chaz
McCain stands on a good foundation. He may make choices based on gentlemanly behavior but he is not a fool. Fools believe in abortion. Fools do not uphold the Constitution but want to change it daily to meet their whims. Fools cry peace and ignore evil. Fools believe socialism can work. Fools scoff at God. McCain is not a fool. But a large percentage of the voters may be. It is easy to see through OBAMA. Even with the Media militantly fighting for him. We may be witnessing that a majority of Americans are no longer Americans in the true and historical sense of the word. Maybe we as a nation have become fools. Like France, Canada, and England.
Aren't you the one that said if the Conservatives show up we will win?

Intelligent Conservatives
I am so impressed with the comments thus far.
What's wrong with working hard to provide for yourself and your family? Obama and his followers just don't get it!! Biden says it's only fair to redistribute wealth. As long as we don't redistribute his wealth, right?
Obama doesn't respect life from the moment of conception, how will he respect it at any other time? Seems pretty basic to me.
A vote for Obama will ruin the economy, ruin Healthcare, make us less energy independent and those who wish to do us harm will be knocking on our door, or rather, breaking it down.

It's over...
The parasites now outnumber the producers.

It's time to move to Texas and secede from the Union.

A revealing and frightening "Obama Timeline" at:
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

"What Obama would do..." at:
http://www.colony14.net/id35.html

Welfare?
What would you call billions in tax cuts to companies like Exxon, which made a profit of 50 billion. corporate welfare?

Reb wrote, Andrea wrote, ColoMike wrote
Sorry for simplifying the Social Security example saying that one's benefits are tied to taxes paid. You're correct that they are tied to income. The taxes paid are capped at $102,000 of income for 2008, so that someone making $120,000 pays the same SS taxes as someone who makes $102,000, and their future benefit, all other things being equal, will be the same. People who earn less, pay less taxes into SS and get a lower benefit.
My point however was that Obama calls a refundable income tax credit a tax deduction, even if that person has no Federal income tax liability for the simple reason that the person does pay SS tax, but there is no mention of a related benefit reduction. So he has cleverly and deliberately re-defined income redistribution, really welfare, as a tax reduction.
Andrea should be angry at the redistribution of her hard earned income, and so should anyone with any hope for upward income mobility as Obama's refundable tax credit begins to be phased out above $75000.
Finally, health care isn't a right. If it were then someone would have the right to the product of someone else's efforts. That used to be called slavery, but I guess that can be re-defined away also.

DAVID LETTER MAN=THE JUNK MAIL MAN
OL DAVE LIKES OBAMA AND MAKES FUN OF JOHN AND SARAH,GUESS WHAT DAVE OBAMA WILL TAX YOU SO BAD YOU WILL WEEP,YOUR NICE HOUSE WILL BE GIVEN TO LOUIS FARACKKANS RADICAL YOUTH CAMP.IT WONT BE FUNNY THEN DAVE!

The Gimmes are Up Market Down
Announce that welfare and the hands are out that is why Obama polls are up and the Market went down

Come on people
Come on now you know how he is going to get the money, well here is a food for thught,

He is going to do what Clinton did to get rid of the Deficet, you know now what im talking about,

he is the one who stated that we cannot rely totally on our military to protect us with all their responsibilities so we need a civilian security group that is just as powerful and train and well funded as the military. Isnt that the words of most DICTATORS before they overthrow their countries government.

It sounds about like what Clinton did, cut the military in half and stop parts production on all military parts.

Just a food for thought

If Obama Wins, forget about America
McCain needs to quickly state what an Obama presidency will look like:
1) Certain Depression
2) Small business WILL close down, they will not redistribute their hard earned money to give it to a bunch of losers
3)The market will crash as "capital" investors pull out of American markets to make money
4)Unemployment will soar and there will be no one paying into the tax market
5)Terrorist will kick us hard when we are down
6)Obama and his cronies win, by destroying America and capitalism
7)Americans revolt, take back the White House and oust the anti-American Obama and throw his butt on the street.
8)A new civil war breaks out as real Americans fight lazy welfare thieves
9)America will never be the same
10)Goodbye America, no reason to work for anything, you will be better off poor.

Excellent column, Donald
But as much as it's true that Obama's economic policies if implemented would amount to the "Europeanization" of America, even worse is the fact that it's naked Marxism. You know, "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need." We need to call a spade a spade. God love Sean Hannity - he's a great conservative, but he ticked me off a little last night when he didn't use any of the words applicable to what Barack Hussein Obama said to a Ohio plumber and business owner about spreading wealth around being a good thing. Those words of course are: Marxism, socialism, and communism. Call a spade a spade.

It is really simple
The Dim-ocrats promise to give free money to those who are too lazy to get a job, and those folks would be stupid to vote against the Dims. Vote buying, plain and simple.

Where?
Where is personal responsibility? I think you nice people are great and all, and I can probably take care of my grandparents when they need me to, however I can't take care of everyone's grandparents. Tell you what.. you take care of your's and I'll take care of mine. Obama, keep your hand out of my purse!
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