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Monday, February 04, 2008
Donald Lambro :: Townhall.com Columnist
GOP May Regret Raising McCain
by Donald Lambro
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WASHINGTON -- The prospect of John McCain all but clinching the GOP presidential nomination in Super Tuesday's primaries has certainly raised the anxiety level among conservative Republicans.

The trouble with McCain, conservative leaders say, is that he strays far afield from party orthodoxy on so many issues -- vital, ideological issues that lie at the core of the GOP's agenda.

There was the Arizona senator's rigid opposition to the Bush tax cuts. He voted against them twice, in 2001 and 2003, votes that to this day he claims were justified, even though he now wants to make the tax cuts permanent.

There was his authorship of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance bill, a piece of legislation that interest groups on both sides of the political aisle said was a draconian attack on the once-sacrosanct freedom to engage in political advocacy on the airwaves in the weeks leading up to an election.

McCain said his bill would end the role of big money in election campaigns, but it did nothing of the sort. Campaign spending has only ballooned to even more mammoth proportions. Instead, the legislation turned out to be nothing more than an incumbent protection law, shielding members of Congress from serious political challenges at the ballot box.

The bill was harshly criticized by widely disparate groups, from the AFL-CIO to the Right To Life Committee, who deemed it unconstitutional, which it is.

Then there was McCain's alliance with Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy, on the Kennedy-McCain immigration reform bill that was hotly opposed by the base of his party who think it went too far in offering illegal immigrants a conditional path to citizenship. The uproar caused him to tone down the issue on the campaign trail, placing more emphasis on border security, which is the base's chief concern.

A core GOP position on energy independence is to make full use of this country's vast oil reserves, either offshore or in untapped parts of the country, such as the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

But McCain, unlike Bush, is opposed to drilling in ANWR, likening it to mining or drilling in the Grand Canyon, an absurd comparison. Oil drilling technology today is as unobtrusive as microsurgery. It would leave a very tiny "footprint" on ANWR's millions of acres and cause no harm to terrain or wildlife.

For many conservatives, no issue is more important than putting strict constructionists on the Supreme Court, and McCain has said he would appoint conservatives in the vein of Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito. But in a Wall Street Journal online column, John Fund says McCain, in private conversations with lawyers, has "indicated he might draw the line on a Samuel Alito because 'he wore his conservatism on his sleeve.'"

These are among a number of issues that have fed deep doubts about McCain among party members and leaders at the GOP's grassroots.

It's the reason why exit polls in Florida's Republican primary found that among those voters who described themselves as "very conservative" (27 percent), McCain drew 21 percent, compared to 44 percent for Mitt Romney. The reverse was true among self-identified liberal to moderate voters (39 percent). McCain won 45 percent of that group compared to 22 percent for Romney.

McCain's problems with his party's right have been played out on conservative talk radio, where he has been a punching bag for the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham, Hugh Hewitt, Sean Hannity and other top shows.

"He has a legislative record that is not conservative. In fact, it is anti-conservative," Hewitt said.

Still, while many conservatives have serious disagreements with him on bedrock policies, many of them also say there is much to like about him: his unflagging leadership against Islamic extremism and his unyielding defense of the war in Iraq and the troop surge, when others in his party headed for the tall grass and were calling for surrender. Few in the party have been as tough on spending cuts as he has.

"I admire the heck out of John McCain and disagree with him on at least half a dozen serious matters," said Bill Bennett, whose stout defense of the senator on his popular talk radio show has drawn legions of angry callers.

"He is a war hero, he has been consistently pro-life, he put his campaign in hostage to the success of the surge in Iraq, he's been a consistent hawk on pork-barrel spending, and can win in November," Bennett told me.

But the former drug czar and education secretary said the heated nature of the anti-McCain phone calls to his program underscores his weakness among the GOP's conservative base.

"What rankles me the most is his tendency to criticize our side first. Why bash us, why not bash Hillary Clinton? He's got to have some of the fire that Democrats have for Republicans," Bennett said.

"If he is the nominee, he's got to fix things with the base of the party, because you can't have a convention with these kinds of feelings," he said.

Does Bennett have a breaking point over the senator's candidacy? "Ask me tomorrow," he replied.

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All the time
"Has anyone EVER complemented you on one of your posts?"

onceamarine for one...many others as well paleocon, unca alby...and many more.

Why?

Akagi
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Hasta mañana and we can continue insults on a live thread.

Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
As to YOU telling ME to "go away"?
I have been here for years and during that time I have trashed MUCH better than you.
You are a simple petty NUISANCE and that is all.

I will concede that you have annoyed & insulted many people here at TH.
That is all you can do!
You are like a raving madman standing on a street corner shouting insults at passing vehicles.

You call names and post gibberish.
You are always insulting and always off topic.
As an instance;
This thread is about John McCain.
You have not even mentioned his name!

Has anyone EVER complemented you on one of your posts?
I receive complements every time I come to TH.
A small one yesterday on another thread while I anxiously awaited your insulting reply.

The only way you can get a response to one of your posts is to insult someone and pick a fight.
YOU ARE A MENTAL NOTHING!

Myopine-the senile nursing home resident
MyOpine writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 6:29 PM

"Just with the simple comment I made about the difficulty of expressing intonement for the Chinese language with these characters;
YOU FELT COMPELLED TO ADD SOME CRAP ABOUT ME CLAIMING THERE WERE ONLY 4 TONES!
And then play with yourself by refuting words THAT YOU ADDED!"

Show me where I ever said you claimed Mandarin had only 4 tones?

"Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
YOU ARE A COMPULSIVE LIAR!
YOU HAVE A MENTAL PROBLEM!

You attempt to discredit other people with lengthy NONESENSE arguments about comments other people HAVE NOT MADE!
YOU ARE DEBATING YOUR OWN DELUSIONS!"

From your post above, it is quite clear you are claiming something I never said--that YOU said there were only four tones in Chinese. Please post evidence where I made this claim. Since you can't this seems to completely refute your most recent post. Now go away.

I perhaps do have a problem--I have this bad trait of having debates with fools like yourself. And since talking to fools, idiots and other mental giants like yourself is like trying to teach a pig to sing or in the Chinese form dui niu tan qin, it is not very productive.

The people I insult have earned it--you have earned it time and time again, so don't expect me to stop anytime soon correctly labeling you as the senile old idiot that you are.


Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
YOU ARE A COMPULSIVE LIAR!
YOU HAVE A MENTAL PROBLEM!

Read one of your posts full of rambling nonsense intended to refute YOUR FANTASY!
NO ONE but YOU mentioned any of the CRAP you rave about!
(Or find some sane person to read it to you!)

You attempt to discredit other people with lengthy NONESENSE arguments about comments other people HAVE NOT MADE!
YOU ARE DEBATING YOUR OWN DELUSIONS!

You are nothing but an empty headed JOKE!
SOMETHING FOR RIDICULE AND AMUSEMENT!

GET MENTAL HELP SOON!
(And stop insulting strangers for no reason!)

Bopomofo
Mistype...meant bopomofo not mofomofo.


Oh and one more thing
I am sorry you have some sort of compulsion with masturbation, perhaps not banging granny at the ole nursing home enough? But the term you are grasping for but your senile little mind is incapable of doing so is the "straw man" which is setting up an argument that no one has made and then defeating it, but this I have not done.

You made the comment that Chinese tones were difficult to express using a western keyboard, but this is not the case as I showed. I never claimed you said there were only four tones since you would have no more idea how many tones there were than a caveman would in understanding the cigarette lighter. I simply stated there were 5 tones and not 4. By the way Taiyu/Minnanhua (Taiwanese) has 7 tones and Guangdonghua (Cantonese has 9).

You also do what you accuse me of, you posted "now he claims he is chicom" or words to that effect. When did I do that? And as I pointed out in my reply, Mandarin is spoken in a number of places outside the PRC including Taiwan and Singapore as official languages, Thailand, the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Canada (3rd most common language in the country) and the United States among others.


Myopine--the liar who lies the most
MyOpine writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 6:29 PM
Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
YOU LIE IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE!
YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF! YOU DO IT INSTINCTIVELY!

Just with the simple comment I made about the difficulty of expressing intonement for the Chinese language with these characters;
YOU FELT COMPELLED TO ADD SOME CRAP ABOUT ME CLAIMING THERE WERE ONLY 4 TONES!
And then play with yourself by refuting words THAT YOU ADDED!

I never claimed you said there were only four tones--some people though make this claim and thus my comment to that effect. But as I showed it is quite easy to indicate the tones by adding the tone numbers e.g. De(0) or mai(4)and in published works adding the tone mark such as mài and as I said outside of works teaching Chinese, the tone marks are not indicated. If you read a work published in Chinese, the tone marks are not indicated--the exception to this are books for young children where the Chinese charaters have the mopomofo phonetics and tone indicators to the side (this is in Taiwan, since the PRC uses pinyin to teach Chinese to their children and thus I have no knowledge whatr their children books look like).

Please show me where I have lied in every post--this is in fact a lie, is it not?


raising McCain
McCain is a war hero they say. He was a POW. Did he volunteer for that service? Of course not. It was forced upon him. That leaves his other military service to be judged by truth. I thank him for his good service. But it seems to me he would not be considered an outstanding war hero, if he were not pushed by the media and honored for being a POW. Some Conservatives pile on McCain and Huckabee. The difference is that they give a long list of evidence against McCain, but against Huckabee they mostly just give profound sounding statements with little or no evidence. This includes Rush, Ann, Rich, Novak, Chuck, Laura, George, and others. McCain may be the worse successful man running, while Huckabee at this point is the most underestimated, by the Conservative elites. The biggest insult in this mess is that Rush denies that he influences voters. Come again? That is what he tries to do every day.
Don

Nazi said: "I was only following orders"
The Nazi said: " I WAS ONLY FOLLOWING ORDER".

We need people that will NOT follow orders of their party and put the nation and people first.

McCain!

When you get into group think and no one disagrees (or is allowed to) you get BAD decisions. This is what happened with Bush. A leader that's not too sharp, surrounded by co-dependant dysfunctional incompetent enablers. Cheney is just more a manipulator. Cheney wanted a war with Iraq for oil and his "think tank" he started was promoting this for years before 9/11 for oil and regional power. (WRONG)

ANY ONE WHO DISAGREED with THE BUSH ADMIN was FIRED! (and often they where right and Bush was wrong; that is a bad leader.)

The GOP should make the tent bigger than the racist and misogynistic partisan like Rick Santorum and Tom Delay (That is why they are out, liars and crooks both.) People are SICK of the the FAR RIGHT conservatives using LIBERAL as a pejorative and curse word. A little Liberal is good.

Get the message, LOCK STEP is bad. I love how people just out of hand go MCCAIN disagreed with XYZ policy, with out pointing out the policy might be bad. He was right about being against tax cuts for rich, Rumsfeld prosecution of the war, torture. Its as if you disagree with the GOP "OFFICAL STAND" you are BAD. It's AMERICAN to stand up to the Gov and COMMON party wisdom.

The sad part is we have the RMW, Right Wing Media that treats all Propaganda as the Gospel truth and all other opinions as wrong, those of a traitor. Attacking the party line is against America itself. That is "Extremist" and Fundamentalist.

LOCK STEP is not good. If you think the GOP should continue the ROVE way, it will go down the tubes.

McCain is TONIC, a change for the GOOD!

Chuck I like you, u may be right?
>Chuck writes: Mon 9:58 AM
>JetPilot
>You simply don't understand where the center of
>the Rep party. Reagan would (not) endorse McCain

You are right about being more comfortable with Dems right now as an independent, however I might vote for McCain. Mitt never, he is a partisan, no back bone, flipper. The GOP loves him because he will do as they say, like a puppy who wants to be loved.

First, with out dispute the GOP deserves to lose for the disaster of the last 7 yrs.

We need a cleanser of our government to remove the stink that is Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Karl Rove.

Reagan WOULD not be happy with the GOP today. I am not going to list the sad crap that the GOP has done the last 7 years, because apparently right wingers just go into mass delusion and ignore it, replacing it with irrational group partisan hate for the Liberals! Oh no, liberals, hide your woman, run for your lives. Most people, over half of the Nation is not so narrow minded.

The GOP DEMANDS compliance, lock step, checking all litmus test. That is sad. When ever you go "fundamentalist" you stop thinking.

McCain is not a lock stepper, and easily "controlled". A party SHOULD NOT HAVE POWER. People should have power. The elite in the GOP are ANTI-American and anti-democracy, for their own power and greed! McCain threatens their power. GOOD!

Some things you may not have heard
From a credible source, this article was at the top of the Commentary page at WorldNetDaily.com today:
HOW THE CLINTONS WILL UNDO McCAIN
Jack Wheeler blasts Republican Party
for saddling itself with 'nutcase wack job'

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60020



OUR REAL ENEMIES

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60 020

If I can find this article, anyone can.

A number of fellow senators think John McCain is psychologically unstable to be POTUS.

Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room.

What really happened to McCain in North Vietnam?

Accommodations? An apartment within the Hanoi Hilton? Prosititutes?

Is this article by the World Net Daily to be believed or is it a hatchet job on McCain's character? Is this an elaborate scheme by the Democrats to discredit John McCain's 'hero' status as repayment for John Kerry's loss of 'hero' status?

More importantly, even if this report is wrong, would the Democrats hesitate to use to their benefit in smearing McCain at the 'proper' time (say Nov. 1)? Except, the cat is out of the bag now!

One way or another, John McCain will not be the next POTUS. Either he will lose outright or he will be smeared and forced out.

McCain????

A friend and I were commiserating the other day about the lack of Conservative Principles available in the entire batch of Conservative contenders in today’s political arena. We agreed that none of the choices truly represent us or our vision. So who should we vote for?

Have you ever noticed that regardless of who is in office (Rep or Dem) things never change? We still have abortion. We still have run away Government spending. We still have illegal immigration. We still have an education system that turns out illiterate idiots. Etc., etc., etc. Why is that?

Could it be that both parties have the same agenda? Could it be that the common goal of both Dem and Rep is one world government? The only thing that changes from one party to the other is the method to achieve it. The 2 parties are one and the same. Both parties are the enemies of America as we perceive it; as it once was. The Republican Party has been infiltrated by our enemies, the socialists.

If Conservatives were truly against McRINO, as seems to be the case here on townhall, how does he continually come out ahead, primary after caucus? The answer is that liberals like Robert are crossing over to vote for him. McRINO is already being touted by the liberal MSM as the best Republican candidate. Robert tells us that we will learn to 'like' him. He is being forced on us by our enemies. It does not matter to them whether the next POTUS is Clinton, Obama, or McCain because they still win and we lose! (Except that McRINO will NOT win.)

We can either take our party back, or consign it to the dust bin of history. We can either force our Conservative values on the party leadership or we can vote for someone else from now on and let the party wither away.

We can go quietly into the night of socialism; or we can fight tooth and nail for our unalienable rights.

I will not vote for America's enemies.

GOP may regret McCain
Oops. I meant 1994. that was such a bad decade
that I try to block it out. Especially the music.
Goo Goo Dolls? Aarrgh!

GOP may regret McCain
I do think it's inaccurate to call Mitt Romney
a flip-flopper, since that's someone who goes
back-and -forth (think John Kerry). Everyone
running for the nomination has swung right,
although the TIMING of the conversion is some-
times suspect, such as Giuliani on gun rights
or McCain on immigration: if it's that sudden,
its certainly insincere. Mitt's "gay rights"
stance dates from twelve years ago! how many of
you have changed positions since 1996?

This is God's Battle not ours.
This is God's Battle not ours.

"Do what is right, let the consequence follow battle for freedom in spirit and might. Then with stout hearts look ye forth till tomorrow, God will protect you in doing what's right."

Don't let confusion cloud your vision, let God's spirit rule your heart, God will lead you through misty shadows of the dark.

Pray this night and all tomorrow, ask the Lord to know His will. Listen to his gentile spirit, it will show you what to do.

----
Californis last 5 polls averages
Romney broke thrugh in California
. . McCain . . Romney . . Huckabee . . Paul
. . 36.4 . . . 36.6 . . . 10.2 . . . . 5.4

Real Clear Poltics is playing politics
They are rigging the figures by taking higher previous samples of McCain which makes it appear that Romney is behind. He has been gaining on McCain every poll, and now today just passed McCain

...unless you build your own.
Robert, that was my point. The Republicans are building a new base that has roundly rejected the part of the former base that stayed home in 2006.

McCain, Romney, and Huckabee are all very similar in their approach to their positions. Sure there are disagreements in policy, but by and large the approach is similar. I don't think any of them will have any problem support whichever turns out to be the candidate. And they each have been accused of being RINOs.

Each of these candidates is far removed from the exclusionists who think that the way to gain prosperity is to limit the free economic choices represented by global trade, outsourcing, etc. I would be happy with any of them.

The question is who is the true RINO. Is it the person who wants to restrict private individuals and private businesses from making such contracts as they mutually agree upon? Or is it the person on the Tancredo side who thinks that the prosperity of the US is increased by limiting the economic choices of private individuals and businesses, essentially turning the US into a closed-shop?

Cartoon in ''The Funnies'' today
--
...by Bob Gorell.

Four panels, shows a Democrat donkey looking earnestly into the camera, four panels.

Panel 1: "We need a president who opposed the Bush tax cuts and wants amnesty for illegal immigrants."

Panel 2: "We need a president who protects the rights of enemy combatants."

Panel 3: "We need a president who can turn back the conservative tide."

Panel 4: "

treadmilljoe, if Mitt was not dividing
the votes Huck could be winning. The point being, each candidate has equal value and Romniacs are arrogant when they assume their candidate has more clout than Huck. FYI - the fact that Mitt is not getting ALL the conservative votes (in FL Mc got 27% of the voters who identified themselves as ULTRA conservative). This is statistically significant. Also, Mc will win the primary with conservative votes, no republican can win the primary without the base so if he is the nominee, the base IS SUPPORTING HIM, and the lie that the base will not show up in the general is coming from talk show hosts who are acting like children and threatening to vote for Clinton or stay home. You know what, I wish they all stay home then they will know once and for all that Mc does not need talk radio to win the primary and the general. GO HOME ALREADY AND STOP THE LIES ABOUT MCCAIN.

kim, I have looked at Mc's Record
and Mitt's Record as Governor of MA. I find Mitt's record to be more disturbing and his new shared values of political expediency to be even more disturbing. One figures that a person can change his or her mind about an issue or two BUT WHEN A GROWN PERSON (50+) CHANGES HIS MIND ON ALL ISSUES THEN HOUSTON, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM. Read his flip on his feelings about Vietnam - how he regreted not serving (during the CA debate) and how he was proud not to have served in 1994. Since we get to pick only ONE commander in chief - we better get it right by choosing the most qualified man in this race. Mc will beat both Hillary and Obama in the fall - ALL POLLS can't be wrong and I am confident when people look for a man with enough dignity to conclude Iraq with honor and work across the isle with dems. for the greater goals of ALL americans - Mc will win. So far, he is the candidate who has drawn votes from republicans, independents, democrats and military (overwhelmingly). Hillary and Obama have not crossed over to republicans(even in NH where people can vote), the military votes are weak and most importatantly social conservatives who want a strong pro-life ticket will not be voting for either Obama and Hillary. And the winning demographic is WHITEMEN who overwhelmingly reject Hillary and Obama. The debates mean nothing if they don't translate into votes - remember Bush and Kerry. Kerry was the stronger more polished debater but we re-elected Bush with 51% of the vote. Why? He was authentic and believable. Mitt is neither of these two things (he is neither authentic nor believable) and his national polls have not broken 38% - so the democrats will beat him handily come Nov.

Go Mitt!
In 2000 I supported Bush, but only because he wasn't Gore. In 2004 I supported Bush because I absolutely didn't want Kerry in office. I didn't vote for Bush either time because he excited me but because I thought the alternative was worse. Bush has done some things that I like but otherwise I'm not happy and wish for something better. As far as I can tell McCain would be a continuation of Bush. I'm tired of voting just to keep Dems out of office. So I'm going to root for someone that reflects what I want out of a president!

The only thing that I do like about McCain is the war/military stuff, but frankly I feel like all the Republican candidates are strong on the military, whether they personally served or not. McCain was heroic as a prisoner of war, but that doesn't qualify him to be POTUS. He has extensive LEGISLATIVE (read: lots of compromising) experience, but he has never run a business, city, or state. His record on immigration is horrendous.

I would have picked any of the other Republican candidates for the nominee (well, not Paul but only because he is wrong on foreign policy). I like Romney in particular because he is a good man with a good head on his shoulders and he will do great things for our country.

I think the confusion on Romney "flip flops" stems from the fact that he was governor and many of the things he had to deal with in Massachusetts were out of his domain--he was not a mayor of a particular city, and he wasn't on the legislature. He wasn't king of Massachusetts! Mass. has a lot of libs who screw things up royally! He was a conservative in a very liberal place and he did a great job!

Go Mitt!!

John McShame
I am already embarrassed at John McCain having to debate either Hillary or Obama - he will be toast! I wonder how many people actually look up McCain's record or if they are just listening to the main stream media?? I wonder who is hijacking the Republican party - it seems that anyone voting for McCain should be on the Democratic side. I just don't get it. I live in Texas and we fought all last year against McCain and his amnesty bills. He and his wife are both noted for scandal and poor choices. Mrs. McCain was caught stealing drugs from her own charity. This entire process is a tutorial in the decline of values and principles in our country and within the Republican party. I will stay home this year (first time) if McCain is the nominee - my TV and radio will be turned off to any political news the way it was during the Clinton years. Oh ya, the Clinton years - where we could read about the President of the United States and his "private part" irregularities on the front page of my newspaper. We keep voting in losers and expect to win - won't happen!

Our American economy needs ...
Letter to the Editor
It is time to fight. I'm voting for one has not wavered, whose character has stood firm on all issues and who, by his steadfastness, has shown leadership. He is 100% pro-life, pro-family, pro-America. He is 100% geniune.

I like Mike! I love what he stands for!

Governor Mike Huckabee has more experience with state government with 11 years as governor of Arkansas. He excels in every role, having been recognized by his peers who elected him as Chairman of the National Governors' Association and Time Magazine ranking him as one of the five best Governors in America. He was reelected as governor to serve a total of 11 years, at the end of which his state experienced at $850 million surplus. This was rising from a $200 million deficit that he inherited.

Our American economy needs Mike Huckabee.

Dawn Dale, a concerned citizen

http://www.geocities.com/thechristianheartbeat/welcome.html

Dawn Dale

ps. truth be told, dems are scared to death of Huckabee!

GOP has a death wish
Why else whould they give the presidency to Hillary without a fair fight? I expected a tough and unfair fight with the Clinton organized mob machine, but I also expected Republicans would at least fight back.

McCain will go down in history as the last straw who destroyed what little was left of the Republican party.

Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
YOU LIE IN EVERY POST YOU MAKE!
YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF! YOU DO IT INSTINCTIVELY!

Just with the simple comment I made about the difficulty of expressing intonement for the Chinese language with these characters;
YOU FELT COMPELLED TO ADD SOME CRAP ABOUT ME CLAIMING THERE WERE ONLY 4 TONES!
And then play with yourself by refuting words THAT YOU ADDED!

THAT IS A LIE!
YOU DO IT HABITUALLY!

Now go get drunk like Wobbie does and come back to make a blatherskat FOOL of yourself.

If you are going to be a BELLOCOSE LIAR you can at least be an entertaining LIAR!

Virginia Patriot
We are both stunned by the gross stupidity of the GOP power structure. They seem to have no idea who is voting for them, what their base is, or how to keep it. Whatever else, these people are too stupid to possibly remain in positions of power. I can hardly wait to vote against my CINO senator Mel Martinez. Better an Alcee Hastings in that seat, coming at me from the front, than a back stabber like Martinez. Principled conservatives are a smaller part of the usual GOP voters than i thought, but there is enough of us to deny the presidency to any Republican. If the nominee is McCain, he's going to find out, just as Bush41 did.
Apparently 06 wasn't enough. How long will it take the pols elected from the right to figure out the right is not bought by pork, but by hope of relief from pork? What are they gaining by shaftging their constituency?

I'm still with Fred
VOTE FOR FRED

http://ImStillwithFred08.com

Dennis McIntire, “The Constituent”
http://www.dennisforlife.com

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.
John Quincy Adams

skep 41
the real fly in ointment has been old huck who according to mary matelin holds what is akin to a man crush on mccain. Huck ain't going no where but thinks he will find some place in a future mccain administration due to his efforts to keep romney from winning. Huck seems to be no more than a stalking horse for mccain but brings nothing to the debate or either campaign. Huck must realize he is never going to get the nod but seems only intent on keeping romney from winning. He supposidly lacks any money to continue so it seems that just keeping his name on the ballot is all he needs to remain in play

Does the GOP Want To Survive?

The Stupid Party

The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.

Don't vote for one.

Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP

Myopine
I only posted the urls because you demanded it. To basically shut your idiotic mouth..seems even when I post proof, you can't shut the f up. And no, you attacked me first and I simply responded. Please show me where I lied or show me where I wasn't accurate in the past..you can't because I haven't been.

Again, care to define the term "lie" or "liar?"


Akagi
I have to leave for awhile.

You just go ahead and make a fool of yourself and I'll catch up when I get back. LOL ;-)

Reagan's 11th Amendment
The truth is that Romney broke it first with his negative campaign ads against Huckabee early on.

Unfortunately for Romney, what comes around goes around. Think there is some mischaracterization about Romney's record by MSM? Interesting... Perhaps all of the flip-flopping and the truth is catching up with him.

Huckabee is only now calling Romney out for what he is... an inconsistent puppet who will say/do/promise whatever he can in order to get you vote. If he gets in office, he will have the puppeteers to answer to.

I am not thrilled about the prospects of a McCain nomination but at least McCain didn't start the knee-capping negative ads.

Romney = Rob-me of R-money (power and wealth to Wall Street puppeteers).
McCain = puppet for Washington puppeteers
MSM - puppet to Wall Street and Washington

Who is Huckabee beholden to? WE THE PEOPLE.

Want to cut the strings of the puppeteers? Vote Huckabee. Enact Fair Tax. Seal border. Keep strong military.

http://www.mikehuckabee.com

Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
HEY STUPID!

You lie and claim I attacked you first!
TWICE;
On two different occasions and two different threads, you insulted me over a post that should have offended NO ONE!

YOU ARE A FOOL!
If you want to publish that FACT, I will help you!

Now that you have learned to post a link you may become more factual for a change.
BUT YOU WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A COMIC LIAR!

You are starting to be a nuisance here.
Why don't to go back to that antique thread and continue your fantasy?



Oh Yes--Part II
Or this one?

"MyOpine writes: Wednesday, January, 30, 2008 7:13 PM
Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
Threats & name calling proves you have no substance.

The reason you can't verify ANYTHING contained in your posts is that you just make things up.
Wobbie does that too.
He is very amusing sometimes and so are you.
Wobbie makes up preposterous stories to entertain us.

Are you going to make up preposterous stories or just keep alleging preposterous things in your posts?..."

So what stories did I make up? That Lee Teng Hui was forced to sleep in his plane because the US refused to grant him a visa? Or that Reagan singed the Third Communique with China which cut off arms sales to Taiwan for 10 years? Or that Bush basically scolded the elected president of the ROC (Taiwan) in front of Wen Jiabao over the referendem or the comments by Rice or Powell? How about the part of the US cutting off Jiang in 1948? Or withdrawing from the 1954 Defensive treaty in 1979? Those lies too? How about the that Ruby Ridge was during the Bush Administration and thus was not the fault of Clinton or Reno was that also a story?








Oh yes--Part I
And let's not forget that you attacked me first--you called me a liar when I have not lied once, you basically invited me to kill myself and then used all sort of other vile words toward me. So forgive me if I'd love to hear of your painful (and hopefully) long death.

Trying to compare me to Robert does you no favors, you senile nursing home reject.

"Stop ADDING YOUR WORDS to the words I post so you can refute the WORDS YOU ADDED!"

If you are saying you want me to go to your origninal posts and post your words directly from your posts, well sorry wang ba dan I am not going to do this, but my reports of you calling me a liar, saying I spew crap, etc are accurate or are you simply too stupid to recall these?

Okay for fun a few..how about this one?

"MyOpine writes: Friday, January, 25, 2008 5:34 PM
Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
More cowardly threats? :-) LOL

YOU ARE A LIE!
You are a fraud that is incapable of being truthful.

I have exposed you and proven you a lair."

Really care to prove that now then? Prove where I lied..do you understand what the term lie means?


Wildwest
The difference between McLame and Kerry is that I voted against Kerry with a song in my heart. This November, his candidacy will either keep me from voting for president (something I have never done) or force me to vote for Obama just out of protest. Either way i will feel like I have broken with a political party that I have supported for more than three decades.

True McCain
If you haven't already seen it, check-out the photo of John McCain on the Drudge Report page: This guy should be made to wear a Hannibal Lector mask!

skep41
the more we hear about mccain, only one thought comes to mind. To know him is to be totally disgusted by him. But he is no more than another heinz/kerry. A person of mediocre intelligence and scant scholastic achievement who unable to really accomplish anything on their own in the private industry, marries a rich woman where they are both able to infest the congress where intelligence and accomplishment mean nothing. I almost wonder if heinz/kerry and mccain are twins separated at birth but share the same lack of values

Myopine
I am. You claimed I made outlandish claims. You have also called me a liar, and used terms such as I spread crap and spew this or that and continue with your idiot charges. So how have I put words in your mouth? And no I am not going to go through every one of your posts to find the phrase "outlandish claims" but let's say for a second you didn't--calling me a liar, saying I post crap and saying I spew untruths is the same thing--in fact charging me with "outlandish claims" is actually more civilized than saying I "spread crap."

And while I wouldn't mind hearing of you being run over by a bus--I don't think I have personally issued any threats to you on this thread now have I?

Oh and care to go back and refute the urls you wanted so much?

Observer
Kind of a mess isn't it?

I see you have noticed the same miracles I have witnessed.
Liberals who I argued with a year ago have miraculously morphed into Republicans to support McCain.
(Even Wobbie!)

CalVRWC
If Juan McAmnesty is a Conservative Republican, Helen Thomas is an SI Swimsuit Model! UGH!

Regrets and heart burn is coming now!!
McCain is giving the party heart burn now. Apart from the few (including the paid bloggers), McCain is unacceptable. Huckabee is unacceptable. Why? Because they attack their own. McCain in the senate is as good as a Democrat, hence the multitude of co-sponsored bills. Huckabee hurt the conservatives in the Baptist wars and in the GOP in Arkansas.

Where is this same complaint levelled against Romney?

When they attack their own, they get a record. It amazes me that McCain can spend decades in office attacking his own and attempt to have this swept away. It does not amaze me that the McCain/Huckabee tag team are at it again with Romney. Is it possible that the GOP could be represented by these two people who attack their own?

Regrets and heart burn is coming now!!
McCain is giving the party heart burn now. Apart from the few (including the paid bloggers), McCain is unacceptable. Huckabee is unacceptable. Why? Because they attack their own. McCain in the senate is as good as a Democrat, hence the multitude of co-sponsored bills. Huckabee hurt the conservatives in the Baptist wars and in the GOP in Arkansas.

Where is this same complaint levelled against Romney?

When they attack their own, they get a record. It amazes me that McCain can spend decades in office attacking his own and attempt to have this swept away. It does not amaze me that the McCain/Huckabee tag team are at it again with Romney. Is it possible that the GOP could be represented by these two people who attack their own?

A brick wall at 80...
This morning on Fox (America's Newsroom), Tammy Bruce explained why she would vote for Hillary instead of Juan McCain: "If we're going to hit a brick wall going 80 miles an hour, I'd rather it be by a real liberal Democrat than a fake conservative Republican."

Which reminded me of a McCain ad I saw this weekend (aired in California) in which he called himself a "true conservative"! I laughed for hours.

Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
I know this will be hard for someone as stupid as you are so TRY HARDER!

When you refute someone's words you must refute the words THEY post.
You can't just make up your own words and attribute them to someone else.
When you play with your own words like this is is called Verbal Masturbation and you should not do in in public.

Now are you going to threaten me with violence again?
You BELLICOSE MORON!

You are starting to look funny;
Try making a bigger fool of yourself!

If so why then this?
"...you are addressing someone who has not even shown up on this thread."

Since I was obviously addressing someone who had posted on this thread, this makes this statement untrue, correct? Or using Myopine's failed logic--a complusive liar.


Akagi writes:
And LJ: please try and learn to read. I posted my reply to Myopine at 2:59 p.m. and he at 2:45 p.m, since 2:45 is earlier trhan 2:59 we can come to the conclusion that he did in fact post to this thread, no?

Actually, I did read the post as it was addressed to me.

Myopine
Make up words? You claimed that I make up outlandish claims--now you seem not to be very specific about what those claims were, so after your idiotic badgering for over a week I posted the URLS related to a number of things I have posted--mostly related to the United State's shabby treatment of Taiwan (and corrected your idiotic comments on Chinese).

Again, your replies are never anything of substance..perhaps a sign of your growing dementia--your kids put you in a home yet?


Myopine--off-topic
No, just finally got tired of your countless harping about them--happy now? I have no desire to amuse you--just letting you know where the urls were and correcting you on your incorrect comments in regard to Chinese.

But yes it was off topic as you vanished from the earlier thread and I didn't want to leave the charge unanswered.

And LJ: please try and learn to read. I posted my reply to Myopine at 2:59 p.m. and he at 2:45 p.m, since 2:45 is earlier trhan 2:59 we can come to the conclusion that he did in fact post to this thread, no?

Lumberjack
Thank you.
I did make a post on this thread @ 2:45 that was placed just above your post.

I am not sure what that fool is ranting about.
He makes up MY words for him to refute.

He is just as airheaded stupid as Wobbie but not as entertaining.

CAarchitect
So in other words, the ad was a bunch of tough sounding rhetoric with no details of his weak policies and positions on the issue. The way I see it there is nothing to "buy" because I haven't heard McCain alter his position to anything even remotely acceptable.

Akagi the compulsive LIAR!
I see you have finally learned how to post a link.
You surprised me.
I seriously doubted you have the intellect.

Your silly spew is somewhat off topic for this thread.

If you are going to amuse us like Wobbie you will need to be more entertaining than this.

We need another TH comic but you are even a failure at that!

Sammy
The bottom line is that McCain is now trying to sound like he's tough on illegal immigration -- the day before the CA/AZ primaries. John McCain can spend his "entire fortune" trying to say that he got religion on the illegal immigration issue. I'm not buying it. Juan Hernandez.

Surge not important, anyway
What Pettreus is describing sounds more like the old Venetian city states than a country.

Akagi writes:
Myopine--off topic

Not only are you off topic, you are addressing someone who has not even shown up on this thread. Try doing a little reading, or at least scroll through the posts to see who is on this thread.

Myopine--off topic
Please go to:

http://townhall.com/Columnists/TerenceJeffrey/2008/01/30/mc cains_no_threat_to_the_left

Since you have never been clear what "outlandish" claims you are talking about since I don't make outlandish claims, what I post are facts--something you seem to be unaware of. Also replied to your claim you can't use a standard keyboard to indicate the five tones used in Chinese (yes there are five of them...not four).

So for your benefit, I posted a number of URLs which a person of your limited language ability (being constrained to only being able to read English) can read at your leisure. Anything else you'd like me to post since you obviously lack the ability to do your own research.


addendum...
to my post to Robert... McCain is even selling out to the religious fundies, vying hard for their votes... so that's even more evidence he's becoming more like Bush. And for some reason, you excuse it.

I just don't get how you could support McCain after railing about Arbusto, the fundies, the war... pretty much every key issue of the day. McCain is a Bush clone who's sold out wholesale for the GOP nomination.

Please tell me where you think McCain offers any improvement over the status quo on specif issues. Sticking it to Rush, while amusing, doesn't count as a pertinent issue.

This leaves
open a perfect strategy for dems. If he were elected, Dems sound push McCain on his amnesty bill, or any one of his other pet concerns, into endorsing it. That would draw the fire from the conservative groups and fracture the party again. So I hope McCain is not that sincere on reuniting the party etcetera that he talks about?

Robert...
you still haven't answered my question of what McCain will do differently from Bush on the issues. I've read a lot of "well, those same people who supported Bush now support Romney" stuff, but who the hell cares? If McCain is the same as Bush... and from what I can see he's hardly different... why support him? Just to stick it to Hewitt, Rush, Malkin, and the rest of the obnoxious righty columnists?

I agree many times with people I can't stand... but the issues are what really matter with respect to voting.

I ask again, how will McCain do anything different in Iraq, with respect to Iran, or anywhere else? Why is McCain your big hero if you despise Bush so much? Where's the big improvement? Specifics, please.

I think McCain is the "lesser of 2 evils" matched up against Romney, but I won't vote for either. Neither candidate gives me a reason to vote for him... even if I would like to see Hewitt devastated after his man-crush loses.

Lumberjack7392
Wal-Mart Wobbie will NEVER agree to use a Pea-Shooter. He saves all of his Hot Air for his Neoprene Nympho, WONDER WOMAN!

Gray Ghost writes:
Lumberjack7392 2:28pm
My Savage 99 was also my Father's. It has a Weaver variable scope (I believe it to be 2.5x to 9x).

I use it when I go out with my Son-in-Law and Grandson. I loan them my bolt-action 7x57mm and use the Savage for sentimental reasons. (It was my Mother's anniversary gift to my Father in 1951, the same year I was born. When I carry it, its like a part of my Father is out hunting with us.)

I feel exactly the same about that .243.

Lumberjack
My service rifle was the 06 but I use a 6.5mm for hunting.
I own a .223 I use for varmints.( holds to 1/2 moa.)

Where is this marksmanship contest to be held?

GGhost
After The Super Tuesday results are in, I'll pontificate on the results late this week or early next!

THANK YOU for Your Support :)!

Georgetwin writes:
LJ7392-GGhost-SDog-GunnyG
NOW! NOW! You have to be fair to Wal-Mart Wobbie in this shooting contest. His Super Soaker doesn’t have much range.

I would NOT even trust him with one of those. A pea shooter, maybe, well maybe not since he is so full of hot air he could shoot a pea 2000 yards, a Super Soaker, no way in hell.

Georgetwin 2:31pm
When's your next post at your Blog? I miss not reading your thoughts.

Lumberjack7392 2:28pm
My Savage 99 was also my Father's. It has a Weaver variable scope (I believe it to be 2.5x to 9x).

I use it when I go out with my Son-in-Law and Grandson. I loan them my bolt-action 7x57mm and use the Savage for sentimental reasons. (It was my Mother's anniversary gift to my Father in 1951, the same year I was born. When I carry it, its like a part of my Father is out hunting with us.)

LJ7392-GGhost-SDog-GunnyG
NOW! NOW! You have to be fair to Wal-Mart Wobbie in this shooting contest. His Super Soaker doesn’t have much range.

Fair article
I am not sure what Bennett’s “ask me tomorrow” means, it seems we have enough to question him on today. He also had two campaigns now to get a flavor of him. That he tries to paint himself as a (the) “real conservative” now only demonstrates his pandering abilities.


More and more, his forte seems to put him at loggerheads with the Supreme Court. His beloved Feingold may be heard if not decided in the Court. He trumpeted line item veto, which was later knocked down by the Court as unconstitutional. But now it all seems to be dismissed; and ask me tomorrow will turn to ask me after his first executive year.


Gray Ghost writes:
Lumberjack7392 2:11pm
Do either you or I believe that "Wobbie" will try any or all 3 of us in a shooting contest?

(I am still hoping he meant .223 not .203!)

However, of interest is if he meant .223, then he is not military. If you are in the military, then you would say 5.56x45mm. If you are a civilian you would say .223. They are the same cartridge; but the .223 is not loaded as "hot" as the 5.56x45mm.

I normally use a Remington 6mm (.243) for hunting and target shooting. It belonged to my Dad, and has 2-9 variscope on it. Talk about a nice rifle.

I would not trust Rockhead J. Squirrel with a bb gun much less a .177 caliber pellet gun.

No Money For You
A word to the GOPers jumping on the McCain bandwagon --- Don't come knockin' when you are looking for campaign contributions for the party or your campaigns.

Lumberjack7392 2:11pm
Do either you or I believe that "Wobbie" will try any or all 3 of us in a shooting contest?

(I am still hoping he meant .223 not .203!)

However, of interest is if he meant .223, then he is not military. If you are in the military, then you would say 5.56x45mm. If you are a civilian you would say .223. They are the same cartridge; but the .223 is not loaded as "hot" as the 5.56x45mm.

CAarchitect
What exactly did this ad state? I find it very difficult to believe McCain is now explicity saying no legalization for illegals. The small and insignificant adjustment McCain has made (that I know of) is for "secure borders" (whatever that means) before legalization. And even then he has stated that he would sign his original bill if it were ever offered.

On McCain and on Article Topic
I will not vote for McCain, not after McCain-Feingold.

I was for Hunter. My fall-back position was for Thompson. I will vote for Romney, even if I have to "hold my nose" a little.

If the election is between either Obama or Hitlery vs McCain, then I will write in Hunter or Thompson.

I will no longer vote for anyone I believe is not qualified for POTUS. If it means the Dumocrats win, so be it. I WILL NO LONGER "SELL OUT" MY PRINCIPALS AND VALUES.

Gray Ghost writes:
GunnyG 11:41am
What caliber rifle is "Wobbie" going to use?

Can I get a piece of the action? I will put an additional $1000.00 on you and your Springfield. I don't care what "Wobbie" brings to the contest, including his ".203" (Whatever that is!).

I hope that "Wobbie" is just a poor typist and meant a .223. Otherwise he is a certifiable idiot.

H*ll, I believe I can beat him with my Savage 99 in .300 Savage caliber. And both me and my Savage 99 are over 50 years old.

I'd love to take Rockhead J. Squirrel on, on a trapfield. I'll bring my 40 year Remington 870, and whip his sorry butt at the 16 yard line.

GunnyG 11:41am
What caliber rifle is "Wobbie" going to use?

Can I get a piece of the action? I will put an additional $1000.00 on you and your Springfield. I don't care what "Wobbie" brings to the contest, including his ".203" (Whatever that is!).

I hope that "Wobbie" is just a poor typist and meant a .223. Otherwise he is a certifiable idiot.

H*ll, I believe I can beat him with my Savage 99 in .300 Savage caliber. And both me and my Savage 99 are over 50 years old.

Did you hear McCain's new ads in CA?
I heard McCain's new anti-illegal immigration ad twice this morning. McCain appears to have adopted Mitt Romney's plan because he was saying exactly what Mitt has been saying all this time!
How convenient that McCain is finally hearing that we don't support his McCain-Kennedy "guest worker" legislation. Of course, we were screaming about it months ago as he tried to ram it down our throats (twice), and he continued to support it until, seemingly, this past weekend.
I don't believe this 11th-hour conversion (or is it a flip)? Did John McCain fire Juan Hernandez from his campaign? Doubt it.
I just gave Mitt Romney $100! Californians want an end to illegal immigration!

Don Lambro
"his unflagging leadership against Islamic extremism and his unyielding defense of the war in Iraq and the troop surge, when others in his party headed for the tall grass and were calling for surrender."

What??? Pretty much ALL REPUBLICANS supported the troop surge. Unless you are talking about McCain's party being the 'democrat party', you are patently lying. Which republican 'headed for the tall grass'? None! There hasn't been a republican that called for surrender yet, but the dems sure did. You have no credability, sir.

sheepdog
Yes, those, and from watching "Debbie Does Dallas".....

Endlessly.....

Georgetwin writes
"The only things Wal-Mart Wobbie knows about football, he learned watching it with the other cheerleaders."

You mean the blowup kind?

YLG writes:
Lumberjack7392
I don't know why he bothered telling me that brevity is the soul of wit. He lacks both "brevity" and "wit".

Not to mention SpellCheck

I agree. He is pretty much witless.

Lumberjack7392
I don't know why he bothered telling me that brevity is the soul of wit. He lacks both "brevity" and "wit".

Not to mention SpellCheck.

Don't forget
McRino endorsed Hillary last week on TV.

Rockead J. Squirrel
I have admitted my error, and did it last night. What I found to be really stupid on your part was that you kept addressing posts to me after I had said I was going to bed.

BTW, again what Article and Clause do you find the ban on the military enforcing the civil law in the Constitution?

SheepDog
The only things Wal-Mart Wobbie knows about football, he learned watching it with the other cheerleaders.

Rockhead J. Squirrel writes
stupidly as usual.

My best Cowboy story is told by Vern Lundquist and it was the pokes were down three TD's Clint Longley came in because Cowboy Tom was just going to give him some game time after a flat Roger S had lost the game...and in the last couple of minutes he won it.

Actually, Rockhead, the game was a Thanksgiving Day Game against the Redskins. Roger had been knocked out with a concussion, and Longley came in to replace him. Yes he rallied the Cowboys to a win, the only time he ever did it.

It's About the Future
Sure, McCain does indeed have a few conservative bonafides. I won't argue that. But here's why I can never vote for McCain.

It's all about the amnesty and what this portends for the politics of the future. A vote for McCain is also a vote to legalize, legitimize, and enfranchise a future bloc of voters that will vote against your philosophies and interests. A vote for McCain today is a future vote for Ted Kennedy and all the Ted Kennedy's of the future.

So while you may vote for McCain because of his conservative positions on foreign policy and the War on Terror, you are also placing a future vote for a weak foreign policy and defensive posture. If you vote for McCain because of his strong stance against earmarks and spending, please realize that you are also making a future vote for big spending and big government. If you vote for McCain because he is at least nominally pro life, realize that you are also casting a future vote for pro choice policies. You may not actually be the one to press the lever for these future votes, but the people that you are enfranchising today through your vote for McCain certainly will.

Remember, this is one election and as much as a Hillary or Obama Presidency would be disasterous it's still just one election. The future is forever. Poor, uneducated, English-challenged lawbreakers with distinct ethnic differences to be exploited by liberals simply don't vote for conservatives and Republicans. These are the people that John McCain wants to enfranchise and cast the votes that will overwhelm your political inclinations and desires in future elections.

Lumberjack7392
Without Crayola products, he would be lost.

I think she does it on purpose. She was probably tired of Margaret Thatcher, and decided she wanted to be Condi. After she gets tired of that, it will be Nancy Reagan. Just wait for it.

YLG writes:
Lumberjack7392
Perhaps it's a "Dick and Jane" adaptation.

I just saw a "Condi Rice" posting at Burt's, saying disparraging things about GunnyG. Methinks his groupie got banned again.

Or the coloring book version, using the special paper and markers that don't stain. I suspect he would have trouble coloring within the lines.

She does manage to get herself baned on a regular basis, doesn't she?

This Is What The Primaries Produce
Apparently the structure of Republican primaries is such that what we get is Bob Dole,George Bush and John McCain. Is this by design? Do we also get a complimentary 'Kick Me' sign? Since the 60s we have elected four Republican presidents. One of them was a conservative. All the candidates claim to be the reincarnation of that one conservative. None are and it appears that the party wants it that way.

It also appears the only real argument the Republicans have with the Democrats is the pace at which we move toward socialism. If that is where they are going they don't need my help.

The problem isn't McCain
The reason we have McCain and Romney is because those who were farther right decided to sit at home in 2006 and let the Democrats take over the Congress.

You cannot build a governing coalition if you cannot rely on the base. If the RINO Tancredo-crowd is going to stay home, as they did in 2006, then the party needs to look for votes elsewhere, and that means finding votes in the center through triangulation.

History has shown again and again, as it did to Patrick Henry when he stayed home from the Constitutional Convention in protest, that the people who remove themselves from the process decrease their influence by doing so. Thus 2006 created a Republican turning-point.

The Republican party is not, and never has been, the party of exclusion, and the self-proclaimed ultra-right who opposed Bush's support of freer global trade and more immigrant workers can go over and support the Democrats in 2008, just as they did (implicitly) in 2006.

Their "prosperity through exclusion" mindset is really just the luddite mindset of labor unions anyway, and should find a home in that party.

I think that jenifa is correct and there is going to be a political realignment, with the people who mistakenly thought the Democrats were the party of freedom moving right and the people who mistakenly thought that the Republicans were the party of exclusion and central planning moving left.

Lumberjack7392
Perhaps it's a "Dick and Jane" adaptation.

I just saw a "Condi Rice" posting at Burt's, saying disparraging things about GunnyG. Methinks his groupie got banned again.

Georgetwin writes:
BMan
I disagree, if an Arrogant, Loud Mouth of a Chicken doesn't describe Wal-Mart Wobbie, WHAT DOES!?!?

Bullsh!t artist might.

BMan
I disagree, if an Arrogant, Loud Mouth of a Chicken doesn't describe Wal-Mart Wobbie, WHAT DOES!?!?

YLG writes:
Lumberjack7392
Tom Clancy???

I thought it sounded familiar...

I wonder how Rockhead is able to read words of more than three letters, and one syllable. Must be very difficult for him.

Robert
Your hoping that McCain wins the nomination just like New England fans were hoping that the Giants would beat the Packers. New England fans thought that playing the Giants would be easier than playing the Packers. Well we all know how that turned out. It was their worst nightmare

Could it be
I find it interesting that although many conservatives really, really don't like McCain, he still wins GOP primaries, including the closed primaries. Could it be that conservatives are in fact not the majority of the GOP?

Lumberjack7392
Tom Clancy???

I thought it sounded familiar...

The Reason Dems & Media like McCain
The only reason Democrats and the mainstream media fawn so much over John McCain is that he advances their interests, plain and simple.

The MSM continuously gush over his "bi-partisan" spirit, which is nothing more than taking the Democrat side against Republicans.

Also, do you ever hear of McCain unleashing his legendary temper against Democrats? The answer is rarely. While the number of party colleagues that have suffered his cursings and verbal abuse are legion, he displays nothing but the warmest of fuzzies for disgraceful GOP lambaster Ted Kennedy.

Is it any wonder then that institutional leftists are salivating at the win-win prospect of having one of their own at the head of BOTH major party tickets?

YLG writes:
Lumberjack7392
OMG!!!

That's crude, darlin'!!!

Has the same political leniencies, too. He typed:

"That is very unlikely both things!!"

What moron writes like this? Oh, wait...

A moron who when he has to type his own thoughts, can't, because he is incapable of coherent thought. If it weren't for CtrlC, CtrlX, CtrlV keys,Tom Clancy, and Wikipedia, Rockhead J. Squirrel's posts would be total, complete, utter, absolute, gibberish.

David Austin . . .
lol, good one!

Phil Byler: Of course the polls show blah blah blah - the polls are a reflection of the MSM's choice for prez, both Dem and GOP, that's why they're wrong all the time. They have no idea how real people will vote, especially conservatives.

I'm with Ann - campaign for Hillary or Barack if McLame gets the nomination. Hope for the 2010 congressional elections to put conservatives back where they belong, and start working on 2012, IF Romney doesn't make it this time.

Look at McLame's endorsements - RINOs Collins & Snow from Maine, Rudy also a lib Republican, Arnold, etc. - not a true conservative in the bunch, tho' I was surprised by Brownback.

Rober
>Buy your far right agenda. With anyluck (knock on wood) we are going to bury it Tuesday.

Libs have been saying that kind of thing for 100 years. How frustrating it must be for you that common sense and decency keeps rearing it's head in the form of conservative principles. It will always be so, McCain or no. Deal with it.

McCain is the Republican Clinton
Lambro comes close, but no cigar.

"The trouble with McCain, conservative leaders say, is that he strays far afield from party orthodoxy on so many issues."

The trouble with McCain is that he has no ideology that exceeds his desire to be President. He is the Republican Clinton. He hasn't merly "strayed" from the party's principles. He has actively organized and led the opposition and or subterfuge to thwart it in order to continue to get favorable press from the liberal media.

For all practical purposes he is not a Republican. He does not ascribe to Republican political philosophy. He ascribes to whatever will get him good press.

His treachery is well known to the right so I won't go into detail. I will only say that if the party nominates him I will no longer be a Republican.

He is being nominating by moderate and liberal Republicans, independents, and crossover Democrats. If he gets the nomination I encourage all conservatives to refuse to contribute to the Party. Refuse to campaign for him. Limit your contributions, votes, and political activism to supporting your conservative Senators, House Reps, and state and local officials.

Lumberjack7392
OMG!!!

That's crude, darlin'!!!

Has the same political leniencies, too. He typed:

"That is very unlikely both things!!"

What moron writes like this? Oh, wait...

sheepdog ...If Romney wins tues..
He who shall remain nameless...
will simple say how he really supported him in the first place...
and that his expressed support for McCain was a clever ploy to turn TownHall conservatives against him :)

GunnyG
Give kudos to Max Power for that line....

And yourself for topping it!

;-)

YLG writes:
GunnyG
In regards to the poster il roberto, somewhere a sperm donor is committing suicide.

Had a rewarding time this morning!! Caught two idiots.

;-)

Good morning, YLG;

Forgive the crudity, but the best part of Rockhead J. Squirrel ran down his mother's leg. You know I just realized who Rockhead reminds me of, and that is the Danny DeVito character in "Twins." He was the result of the rejected genetic material used to make the Schwarzenegger character.

jediwarrior
Good point. Proof positive just how much the media has wrangled this election to achieve their dream-team outcome.

If the Kenndys
had been smart, they would have endorsed McCain for the GOP. Every conservative knows that McCain doesn't stand a chance against Obama or Hillary. That's why wobbie is so giddy about supporting McCain.

Why Bush scared me 8 years ago
It was his unddiplomatic demeanor on so many issues. It was the way he talked carelessly about corporeal punishment. It was the way he and his veep would call someone a nasty and laugh while thinking the microphone was off. It was the way everything seemed to be an inside joke between him and his cronies. I was forgiven by most of the republican party because he was a conservative on many issues, but I felt like he was a bit of a sheep in wolves clothing. It was a sign of things to come.

And it's what I'm reminded of when I see and hear John McCain.

It's a mistake I won't make again.

David Austin
One more endearing difference between Mitt Romney and the ALM (angry little man, see above). Govenor Romney made his millions the American way---or at least the way American Republican way---he earned it through his brilliance, hard work and honesty. ALM earned his millions the way of most liberals---off the hard work of someone else.

Perhaps the most underreported factoid in the ALM candidacy is that, believe it or not, he's a mimbo who, in the fine tradition of fellow liberal John Francois Kerry, married a rich heiress.


Robert
So if Romney wins the delegate count tommorrow does that mean you won't be posting anymore?
One can only hope

YLG
To bad his Daddy did not roll over and shoot him out of the window!

WELL DONE! Hopefully, they'll get a nice fat fine.

GunnyG
In regards to the poster il roberto, somewhere a sperm donor is committing suicide.

Had a rewarding time this morning!! Caught two idiots.

;-)

Robert
Nobody cares about your story about McCain's father, and it's getting old. You want to vote on someone based on a dynasty then join the democratic party. McCain is more of a Kennedy anyway.

It's a cunning plan
John McCain's arrogant confidence that he'll win the Republican nomination may be exactly what's needed to energize grassroots conservatives and get the word out that McCain's not the man the media's portraying.

What the liberal-dominated media is doing is irresponsibly and unethically trying to manipulate the election for their favored darling.

Dr. Romney graduated among the TOP 5% of his class at the prestigious Harvard Business and Law Schools. Only 15 out of 550 cream-of-the-cream Harvard Law School students in the extremely rigorous MBA/JD program graduated! Romney was one of the 15.

Romney took only one dollar as salary for turning around the Olympics. He took zero dollars for his service as a State Governor. And as an unpaid lay minister he put in probably thousands of hours counseling and serving members of his church, for free.

Compare Governor Romney's brilliant intellect, his record of selfless service to others, and his incredible achievements in finance, business, and government with McCain's graduation at the BOTTOM 5% of his military class, his dismal "maverick" performance as a senator, his one time service as commander of one military base, his age and quick temper, and his lifelong reliance on the public purse for his livelihood.

How can McCain possibly successfully debate Obama who too is a Harvard grad?

McCain is way over his head. He'd get clobbered each time as badly as Romney clobbered him in the last debate. That's why McCain is endorsed by the New York Times and so many liberals - he can't possibly beat the Democrat challenger. It's a setup for the Democrats!

Decide for yourself who's best prepared to be leader of the free world. As for me I'll vote for Mitt Romney, not for the Obama/McCain ticket!

jediwarrior
If Obama wins the nomination and doesn't select Hillary for his running mate, McCain just might. They've considered running together in the past (though it was Hillary who considered McCain, not the other way around).

Wobbie
In regards to your opening sentence at 1147:

"and I think..."

No actually, you don't. Ever.

CONSERVATIVES BE ADVISED

.....If you cannot vote for McCain or Romney for President because they are not Conservative enough ...then you should vote for Conservative Senators and Congressmen to keep the Party alive ...

.....Conservatives in Congress can influence the agenda no matter who is in the White House ...RINO's need to be weeded out in the Primaries .....COLOSSUS

BmanIII
LMMFAO!

Glad you are back. That d*mn near rated a Spew Alert.

wobbie = liberace!

BWAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHA!

Lumberjack7392
Do you hear crickets?

;-)

Wobbie
Foghorn Leghorn! haha.

BTW Foghorn, I'm still waiting on your answer about shooting against me after you were bragging about sniper tactics.

1 thousand bucks Wobbie! Buys a lot of helo games at Walmart if you win.

You with your .203 caliber rifle (whatever THAT is) and me with my unscoped A303.

scared?

Presidential Diplomacy Part 2
Romney, who has been wrongly maligned because his tendency to quote data his opponents find uncomfortable, has never resorted to character assassinations, mis-characterizations, or innuendo as other candidates have done. Instead he has stayed with those facts while leaving the dignity of his opponents in tact and giving them a chance to explain themselves. Not surprisingly, the mainstream media and opponents have accused Romney of dishonorable campaign tactics despite the fact that he has been the only candidate that has consistently backed up all his assertions about his opponents with data and clarified and/or apologizes when he was perceived as being unfair.

He would never be so stupid as a Presidential candidate to chant "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" given the current state of affairs over there. Such discretion should be paramount in this global political climate.

VP
The angry little man ("ALM" for short) has one and only one chance for capturing the hearts of the party's base (aka real republicans). Assuming the unthinkable---that ALM is the nominee---he will need a splendid VP pick.

First and most brilliant choice would be Newt Gingrich, solid conservative, wildly popular. Second, would be Mitt Romney---rightly or wrongly he IS the conservative alternative to ALM and the candidate who the real republicans---the people ALM desparately needs to woo back---are currently backing. Other choices maybe Fred Thomspon, or Colin Powell would be a very intersting choice.

Last choice---Mike ("like me, please like me") Huckaphony. Huckaphony's epithaph will read---"the goofy minister and hypocritical bigot who in an act of statesmanship worthy of an episode of 'Survivor' siphoned away enough conservatives to hand ALM the GOP nomination". Pick him ALM and Hillary will probably carry UTAH!!!!

GeorgeTwin
I grew up with Foghorn. I knew Foghorn. And Wobbie, he is no Foghorn.


Liberace, maybe. Charles Nelson Riley, maybe. But to insult Foghorn like that. You should be ashamed.

Rockhead J. Squirrel:
BTW: Tell me again what Article and Clause in the Constitution forbids the military from enforcing civilian law.

Presidential Demeanor and Diplomacy
From his "Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran" comments to the most egregious lies about Romney being soft on the Iraq war, McCain has stayed true to his Bull-in-a-china-shop character in the Senate, usually described as being combative, conniving, disrespectful, and one who does not think things all the way through before he speaks. Similar to Bush who describes fragile nations as the "axis of evil" his foreign policy rhetoric will be far more likely to alienate and polarize than anything Bush has said to date.

You want WWIII on your hands. Elect a hothead like McCain when the world is at it's most fragile condition while terrorist-friendly nations are developing nuclear warheads. What we need for foreign policy is a diplomat. Not someone like Hillary or Obama who will hand our nation over on a silver platter. Not a hothead that will push the red button at the first chance, or one that will incite hatred and fear with thoughtless chants like "Bomb Bomb Iran".

Rockhead J. Squirrel:
Lumber...
Lumberjack7392 writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 11:12 AM
...

Jack...go read up on teh 12th...we wouldnt want you to eat your foot again!

LOL

People like you have "a little" knowledge...

Robert

Actually,I did. Unlike you, when I make a mistake I admit it. Hell, you are a mistake.

Does McCain have the right temperament?
McCain: “The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine,” Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.)?



WP-John McCain once testified under oath that a Senate colleague inappropriately used tobacco corporation donations to sway votes on legislation. He cursed out another colleague in front of 20 senators and staff members, questioning the senator’s grip on immigration legislation. And, on the Senate floor, McCain (R-Ariz.) accused another colleague of “egregious behavior” for helping a defense contractor in a move he said resembled “corporate scandals.”

And those were just the Republicans.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/mccain-the-thought -of-his-being-president-sends-a-cold-chill-down-my-spine-se n-thad-cochran-r-miss


McCain (D, Arizona)
is unfit to lead the conservatives. Conservatives are the real base of the GOP.

Georgetwin writes:
Is It Just Me Or
Does Wikipedia Wobbie remind anyone else of Foghorn Leghorn.

No he reminds me of the sene in "Blazing Saddles," where the gang is sitting around the campfire, eating beans, and farting. He would be the farts.

Phil Byler - On Dole and McCain
--
I don't have to read Atkinson's excellent book to understand the course and nature of World War II in the Mediterranean theater. I had a couple of uncles who fought throughout the war in Italy, so my understanding thereof is a bit more intimately familial.

I've also known veterans of the 10th Mountain Division - Dole's old outfit - who had addressed appeals to Bob Dole for help when he was an influential senior Senator, and who were callously ignored (not even a "bedbug letter") by Senator Dole.

Senator McCain has given the impression of being similarly appreciative of the concerns of *HIS* fellow veterans.

When I lived in Missouri and Kansas, the standing joke was that Bob Dole represented Archer Danield Midland far more enthusiastically than ever he looked after the interests of the Sunflower State.
Another was the comment that you could spot his digs in the Senate Office Building by looking for the red light over the door.

Senator Dole's public relations puffery is very much inconsistent with a more proximal former constituent's appraisal of his character.

As for Dole's run "against a popular, politically savvy incumbent President," I recall Waco Willie having been at the most vulnerable nadir in his entire sordid and disgraceful time in the White House, and Dole running the most flaccid campaign I have ever witnessed.

Hell, no wonder Pfizer approached him as a spokesman for Viagra. If ever there was a man who needed something to put lead in his pencil....

--

McCain
is an infiltrator in the Republican Party. Just as surely as the pedophiles of the '50s and '60s infiltrated the Catholic Church. For what purpose? To try to bring it down of course.

Just another Cowboy?
When Regan was elected he was accused of being a Cowboy!

When G.W. Bush assumed the office he was called a drunken Cowboy!

If John McCain is elected he will become a hot headed, short fused Cowboy with an itchy trigger finger!

Is It Just Me Or
Does Wikipedia Wobbie remind anyone else of Foghorn Leghorn.

Ronmey on Abortion (evangelicalsformitt.
He is a “convert” to the pro-life position, much like Ronald Reagan
He believes life begins at conception even though his church has no official position on the matter
He vetoed a bill to give kids access to emergency contraception without parents’ knowledge
He promised a “moratorium” on changes to abortion laws in his 2002 gubernatorial run
He opposes Roe v. Wade and thinks states should set abortion policy
He opposes cloning of human embryos for stem cell research—even though his wife has multiple sclerosis
He vetoed a bill to expand such research despite the overwhelmingly hostile liberal majority in his state legislature
Quote: “In considering the issue of embryo cloning and embryo farming, I saw where the harsh logic of abortion can lead—to the view of innocent new life as nothing more than research material or a commodity to be exploited.”

Dave Austin, that "debate" between
Hillary and McCain was a riot, man!


Rockhead J. Squirrel:
I'd love to buy you for what you're worth, and sell you for what you think you're worth. I could retire quite handsomely on that profit.

BTW, you receive F---------------------- as a human being, assuming you qualify as human.

McCain
For the first time in my life I will not vote in the Presidential election if McCain is the Republican candidate. I know that people regard this as a bad move, but I can not be hypocritical when it comes to major Conservative issues where McCain's actions have been of an active liberal. Can't do it.

Romney
Gov. Romney is for traditional marriage and he has proven it:He pushed for an amendment to Massachusetts’ constitution to overturn the same-sex “marriages” that courts have imposed
He testified before Congress and wrote to senators in favor of the Federal Marriage Amendment
He ordered enforcement of a little-known 1913 law to prevent out-of-state gay couples from getting “married” in Massachusetts and provoking a national constitutional crisis
He opposes civil unions, but the Democrats in the state legislature demanded that they be legalized in the constitutional amendment

GOP NEEDS AN ENEMA

.....To flush out all the Socialists and Democrat Lites who have infiltrated the Party ...

.....The GOP has not had a Conservative in the White House since Reagan left office ...

.....Neither Bush was a Reagan Conservative but represented the lesser-of-two-evils vote ...all their Presidencies accomplished was to move the Republican Party incrementally to the Left until we have reached the point where a McCain can become the nominee ...

.....I am no longer willing to compromise my principles ..."This above all: to thine own self be true. And it must follow, as the night the day, Thou canst not then be false to any man. Farwell; my blessing season" ...William Shakspeare .....COLOSSUS

Let's See Now
First, Rudy was The ONLY One who could beat Shrillary.

Then, HuckleBerry was The ONLY One who could beat Shrillary.

Now, Juan McAmnesty is The ONLY One who could beat Shrillary.

The RINO's haven’t picked a winner YET!

On the bright side, McAmnesty is obviously ill. Perhaps he and The RINO Movement will pass away at the same time.

Robert
Are you saying that McLame is more conservative than Romney? I'm willing to risk it. I think McLame is a disaster of a candidate and that the parasites that are latching on to his campaign are the people who made our legislative majority and control of the White House meaningless.

Mitt
evangelicalsformitt.org

Their is lots of smear for Romney. Go check out some truth.

More Sophistry
Byler writes:

Your equation of Hillary Clinton and John McCain is false.

How about and equation of McLame with his anmesty bill-writing partner Fat Teddy? Or his 1st Amendment violating pal Russ Feingold? We're supposed to criticize Hillary Clinton for voting for liberal bills that McLame WROTE!

Race baiting McCain
Dixiecrat=Republican writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 10:42 AM
Good ol boys hate McCain
So basically he doesn't hate Mexicans enough, he tries to practice a degree of bipartisanship, and he wants to limit the ability for special interest groups to buy an election.

Unless you hate Mexicans and whine about having to "Press 1" and sympathize with Confederate flag worshippers and the Council for Conservative Citizens, you're not a real Republican.

I'm sure that sort of trailerpark good 'ol boy thinking is gonna work real well in November with the general electorate.

Yee-haw, the South Shall Rise Again!!!
-----------------
Again, you have it wrong. The problem isn't the Mexican he hates, the problem is the Mexican cartel members he likes, far too much.

Ramos and Compean sit in jail while McCain (the one senator that could have sway on their case) supports the multiple offense drug runner that appears to be the only criminal that never touched a gun in his life. Oh, and forget the back deal to actually pay a drug runner $5 million to help persecute veteran law enforcement officials. Yep, I'm sure Ramos and Compean believe McCain is a conservative too. I'm sure Murtha is too.... :(

Bollocks Byler!
Romney was governor of Massachusetts, a liberal state and was guided by political reality. He is ten thousand times more conservative than McLame. I dont believe a word McLame says about judges after the Gang Of Fourteen. There are dozens of seats on the appellate courts that are vacant because of that jerk McLame. How many betrayals you McLamiacs have to ignore to peddle your 'he's aconservative' baloney. Mclame is a lib.

McCain Shelter for abused conservatives
This article is another example of gloom and doom projected into the fearful minds of the abused. The abused spouse cries in the night, "What will happen if I leave the man who beats me, at least I have food and shelter." Articles like this promote the idea that there is but one way - your way. Hey true conservatives - leave the brute - go to the shelter.
Ohg
http://thefiresidepost.com/2008/01/31/the-john-mccain-shelt er-for-abused-conservatives/

Lambro
Here is a novel idea: Instead of p-ing and moaning about McCain,get out there tomorrow and vote AGAINST him. Prove the pundits and pollsters wrong, and watch Robert's head explode if McCain does not get the nod. Winning combination.

goldilocks
I wish we'd never gotten away from the "landed gentry" rule, myself.

Can you see McCain in a debate?
Hillary: Repeal the Bush Tax cuts!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: Reward illegals with citizenship!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: Punish America alone for global warming!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: No conservative Judges like Alito!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: Abort unwanted babies!
McCain: I agree if it belongs to my daughter!

Hillary: Gay rights!
McCain: Especially if they're "passionate lesbians"!

Hillary: No Man-Woman Marriage Amendment!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: Protect incumbents and limit free speech!
McCain: Long live McCain-Feingold!

Hillary: No Alaska drilling!
McCain: I agree!

Hillary: Vote for me!
McCain: I agree! Wait... ! Ummmmmm...

--- and, finally - - - -
And we’re left with the choice of McCain ‘n Hillary-R, or the #1 Liberal voting record in the senate? Sorry, but those are nauseating options!

Believe me, I cringe at these unfortunate (but real) feelings and take absolutely no joy in observing the demise of this once great country - - it's so damned sad. And, for whatever it’s worth, as a retired veteran, Deist and independent Independent, I'm married to a college professor (w/Ph.D. in Business, an MBA and Masters in Logistics) who can continue teaching OnLine from anywhere, thank you. Thank God. But, this whole political circus has become even worse than nauseating; the future sucks.

Now, if you’ll pardon me, I’ve got to restart learning my Brazilian Portuguese while my lady works on improving her Spanish...

The Usual Suspects
All the fat toads who looked on the Republican majority in Congress as a license to steal instead of a call for reform are now marching proudly behind McLame as he pushes his walker towards the nomination, drooling and cursing at those who dare to notice his long record of betrayal of conservative principals. We wont get any change or reform from this ancient old coot-- not that he stands a chance of being elected. I resent people who compare him to Bob Dole. If Dole had somehow managed to get elected he would have been mildly conservative, it just was ridiculous to think he had the cajones to beat Clinton. But Dole was honest and likable, two qualities that are strangers to McLame. If we are going to have ultra-liberalism and high taxes foisted on us lets not elect a front man for the Dems.

To SJ Doc re 8:37 AM Post
I know that I have responded before to the false equation of Dole in 1996 and McCain in 2008.

In 1996, Dole had the unenviable task of running against a popular, politically savvy incumbent President in Bill Clinton at a time of apparent peace and popularity. In 2008, after eight years of GW Bush as President, McCain is the only Republican that the polls have consistently shown has any chance of defeating either Hillary or Obama; all the other Republican candidates lose by wide margins to Hillary and Obama, with Romney losing by the widest margins.

The true equation of Dole and McCain is that they are both patriots who are genuine war heroes. Dole was badly wounded on the Italian front in WWII and returned home bed ridden from those wounds. All should read Rick Atkinson's "The Day of Battle" to understand how awful the WWII Italian front was; it was more reminescent of WWI devastation than WWII. McCain was a Navy combat aviator who flew bombing missions over North Vietnam, which had one of the toughest air defenses in military history. On the day McCain was shot down, he flew off a carrier, flew over Hanoi and bombed a power plant there, was hit by a surface to air missle, bailed out but was badly injured to the point of near death, captured and spent six years as a P.O.W.; during captivity, he was subjected to real torture -- e.g. his arms were broken, he was hung up by his broken arms and he was beaten senselessly by sadistic North Vietnamese guards. Both Dole and McCain, after their war service, then served the country as Republican Senators.

True conservatives honor the kind of patriots that Dole and McCain are, not nitwit punditry.

Ha !!! "Regret" - a big understatment
A few days (or, was that “daze”?) ago, Bob Novak reported that Republican political leaders were split over whether they would rather run against Clinton or Obama, but the big majority of them see Clinton as a more beatable foe. Yup, that's what Bob Novak said. Whoopie! Big deal, even. And while Novak, Charles Krauthammer, George Will and Dick Morris are top analysts, what is there to choose from? Scary. Ghastly? Terrible? In MY opinion, our so-called “Political Leadership” options are woefully insufficient. Perhaps “nonexistent” is a better word - - the unaware, uneducated electorate with goofy ideas will apparently vote for whatever triggers their “emotions” or offer Something-For-Nothing in yet another giveaway program. Or something… So, we had Rudy Giuliani and little else; the congress is even worse, and they continually get reelected. And reelected again. It seems the proverbial “deck” is stacked against most thinking people…

In my view, the demented, degenerate Democrats are all socialists or Marxist staging the usual Class-Warfare issue, raising taxes and going the “Amnesty” route while spending and government grows totally out-of-control.

Then, the Republicans all appear to be either insincere opportunists, pandering whores, and/or guys who change their patronizing platitudes, depending upon the audience – superficial pseudo conservatives. All this in the aftermath of the present inept inhabitant of the White House, the biggest disappointment ever.


Will the true RINO please stand, PART 3

WASHINGTON POLITICS
McCain, a true Washington Insider and the darling of the liberal mainstream media and the liberal senator favorite and Kennedy lackey (no wonder he has Schwarzenegger's endorsement), has in the past been considered as a running mate by even Hilary Clinton. Conversely, Romney as the Washington Outsider that uses data instead of friendships as the basis for his policies has scared the insiders so much that all of them have endorsed McCain despite how violently they've opposed McCain in the past. Interestingly this is the reason the WSJ admitted that the like McCain instead of Romney: because Romney favors data over insider friendships and the WSJ finds that frightening. McCain is the RINO.

JUDICIAL TYRANNY
McCain told lawyers he would't have supported Alito because Alito was too conservative. With 3 seats up for grabs in the next 8 years Romney has consistently been committed to and promised to fill those seats with conservative judges instead of the liberal ones who've pitted state laws against each other to destroy states rights and force lawless liberalism. McCain is the RINO.


Will the true RINO please stand, PART 2

MARRIAGE AND THE FAMILY:
McCain, who dumped his wife for a trophy wife shortly after her car accident has said (posted on his website at one time) that Gays should marry but especially "passionate lesbians" should have that right. He has also bashed the constitutional amendment for defining marraige, is championing the cause. Meanwhile governor enacted a number of measures that will remove financial penalties to marriage and is one of the strongest supporters of the Constitutional Amendment to define marriage being between a man and a woman. McCain is the RINO.

CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM
The unconstitutional McCain-Feingold law limits free speech, has ballooned campaign spending, and serves only to protect incumbents. This legislation has overwhelmingly received an F by nearly all conservatives. Romney has said repealing the atrocity will be one of his first actions. McCain is the RINO.

Will the true RINO please stand, PART 1
ABORTION:
McCain said if his daughter ever wanted an abortion that the state should not stand in her way. He's never said anything since then to signify that he feels differently. Conversely according to a number of the most active Pro-life groups (example John Wilke, Jim Bopp, etc) while Governor, Mitt consistently choose life and family over the right to choose, despite claims to the contrary by his detractors. Mitt's previous pro-choice stand was an outward recognition that the issue is was legislatively hopeless at the governor's level, but not so at the national level. McCain is the RINO.

TAXES:
McCain was against, and is still against all the Bush tax cuts and said he will not make them permanent. Romney has said he will make them permanent. McCain is the RINO.

SECURITY:
McCain's state has become a revolving door for immigrating terrorists, and he wants to reward them all with citizenship. He has had 30 years to fix his borders and has done NOTHING TO STOP IT. He is still unrepentant about his pro-amnesty bill. Romney will not reward illegal aliens and will do what McCain has failed to do in his own state: Build a fence and punish the employers who'd employ them. McCain is the RINO.

SPENDING and the ENVIRONMENT:
McCain has said he will raise energy prices by at least 20% and gasoline by $0.50/gal to punish America alone for global warming, and his measures will have negligible impact on the carbon footprint. He also refuses to use the ANWR reserves despite that modern drilling leaves almost no impact, and furthermore provides funding to protect those lands from ecological exploitation, Romney's plan is to leverage our interests to solve global warming using a global solution, rather than putting American interests at risk. McCain is the RINO.

McCain = Dole = we loose
boys and girls - we're being set up

They will keep saying "he is the only one that can win" for the Republicans until its serious - then the "drive bys' will destroy him and the base will stay home -

too old, bad temper, weak on borders - it will all come out and it's 4 years of misery.

McCain Nomination will be a disaster
The Republican party has arrogantly assumed conservatives will eventually come on board.

Not this one.

Brace yourself for 4 more Carter years because too many republicans will not compromise their values and vote for McCain.

To treadmilljoe & stunned
To treadmilljoe re 12:56 AM post: your assertion that John McCain cannot win the general election is absurdly contrary to what the polls have been showing for some time. The polls show McCain as either beating or tying Hillary and Obama, whereas every other Republican candidate loses to Hillary and Obama by wide margins, with the widest losing margins against Romney. That result should be understandable. The strong suit for Republicans should be military matters, national security and foreign affairs, it very much is with McCain, but it isn't with Romney at all. If conservatives desert McCain, it would show a tremendous amount of political immaturity and stupidity. John McCain is a pro-life fiscal conservative who is the most qualified candidate to be Commander in Chief.

To stunned re 6:18 AM psot: your suggestion that I go to the Democrats is really dumb. The Democrats are dominated by anti-military socialists who will increase government spending and thus taxes, accept defeat in Iraq, be appeasers in foreign policy, promote pro-abortion policy positions, and nominate left wingers to the federal bench. I am totally opposed to all of that; and so is John McCain.

To treadmilljoe & stunned: based on your comments, I think that you both need to acquaint yourself with reality. Your comments, like too many from so-called conservatives, reflect a hysteria that is a betrayal of true conservatism.

No winners with McCain
If McCain is the nominee, we'll lose no matter who gets elected. The MSM loves this guy. That ought to be all we need to know.

McCain
If only...Fred Thompson had stayed in the race! That said, this country is now facing a very bad situation. If McCain is the GOP nominee we have serious problems. McCain will bring back amnesty - and for those of you who are bleeding hearts, please looks at what the illegal immigrants have done to this country - get a video - look at pictures, then understand that over 300 billion of your hard earned tax dollars have gone for all their support - politicians tell you that there are an estimated 12 Million here - there are more than 20 million and in ten years, because our politicians allowed chain migration - 50 million. John McCain supported this - he voted against tax cuts - McCain/Feingold which cuts off free speech in elections - he has a well known vile temper - out of the candidates Mitt Romney at the present has theonly chance. Huckabee will throw his support to McCain - just like Guiliani - and for what reason? A possible VP or an apppointment? I wish politicians really cared about this country - unfortunately we have elected officials who care more about themselves - their greed, their pandering, ....just get elected - to hell with the country and its citizens and a vote for McCain will be just that. JC

Context
Robert writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 12:44 AM
Fivo...you need reading and
Fivo writes: Monday, February, 04, 2008 12:38 AM
And Robert...
Before you make some inane comment, you've already admitted you were in the Navy before the 80's
...

context lessons. Try harder next time.

You receive an F minus worse then Lumberjack...

Sorry

Robert
----------------
Not really sure who lumberjack is, but I'm sure that your life emulated your hero, McCain. Disloyal to his wife, disloyal to his party, disloyal to our veterans, champion of Mexican cartel drug runners. Yep, I can see why you vote for him.


And on a more relevant note
And, on topic, I know someone will appear to bring up the "82 ACU rating". I tear this apart in several blog posts, but short form is this:

1. Each vote counts the same to ACU, so voting no on a tariff balances out all the evil of voting "yes" on McCain-Feingold. Relative importance does not figure in to ACU ratings, each vote coutns the same

2. Even with that, his rating has been dropping. He was 83.2 in 2005, and 82 is from 2006. His rating in 2006 was 60! So he is definitely becoming less conservative as he ages (and becomes more and more enamored of his "maverick" image).

3. Lastly, by various methods congressmen can game the numbers to keep their desired liberal or conservative ratings, so even that 60 is probably too high.

Just want to get rid of the "82 ACU rating" before someone trots it out to defend McCain.

McCain
"He is a war hero"

With all due respect to McCain and his record of courageous military service, he is not a hero. Audie Murphy & John Basilone were heroes.
As for politician McCain, his involvement in various financial scandals shows why he has been a disaster on immigration. He is for sale to the highest bidder. Any talk of "border control" now is nothing but an attempt to delude the gullible. He is still Ted Kennedy's pal.

Sluggo/cornpone/etc.
Didn't "youmakemelaugh"/"youreallymakemelaugh"/etc. used to explain all his typing in caps, misspellings, etc by being legally blind?

Just thought that reasoning sounded remarkably familiar.

JetPilot
You simply don't understand where the center of the Rep party. There is no way Reagan would endorse John McCain. Sounds like you'd be more comfortable with the Dems.

Never
Will I vote for McCain!!
He's a treacherous little man, that is determined to be president by hook or crook. Mostly crook!!

He may have been a war hero, but that was a lot of years ago, and now he will destroy our country in his lust for power. Republicans will rue the day they even considered him, much less voted for him, should he become president.

Representative
John McCain and B.Hussein Obama are representative of what this country has become, crazy. We have now a president that is for everyone and everything if it destroys the country, either of the above two will just continue George's legacy and you can't get much more left wing anti-American, anti-repulic than the three I mentioned.

To John McCain: No Base, No Chance
When the seminal US policy issues are examined at a molecular level (see Newt's Real Change) it is clear that America's political center is right of center. If America wants a leftist,the Dems offer much better choices than McCain. McCain cannot win absent the support of core Republicans who are more conservative than he currently is. Having said that, were he to maintain the position of tax cutting and strict constructionist judges and add a clear, unequivocal position on illegals returning to Mexico and going to the back of the immigration line, I might consider voting for him. Of course, even if he were to send signs of shifting right--highly unlikely, given his cantankerous nature--who's going to believe him?

Realist
RE: Voter Ignorance. So sad isn't it. Someone suggested an IQ test on the issues before allowing anyone to vote. Sounds better and better all the time.

John McCain-Feingold...
...will not be elected president,of that we can be sure.His negatives among rank and file Republican base will assure that.This is not the Soviet Union and we are not required to vote.

But let us not forget W's role in the McCain-Feingold law.George Bush said it was bad law and probably unconstitutional,and yet HE SIGNED IT!All he had to do was veto it and the bill would have been dead.The votes were not in Congress to overide a veto.He tried to get clever and planned on the Supremes throwing the law out.Why any expierienced politician would trust the Supreme Court to rule a certain way is beyond my understanding.SURPRISE! SURPRISE! We are now stuck with this stupid law.The only thing better than voting against McCain would be to vote against McCain-Feingold!

Numbers USA
McCain laid out his Immigration Plan in radio ads in South Carolina:
1. "Secure the borders."
2. Deport around 2 million illegal aliens who have committed felonies.
3. Treat the other 10-18 million illegal aliens with "compassion" by letting them keep their U.S. residency and their American jobs and eventually become citizens.

McCain never expresses compassion for the 23 million working-age Americans without any college who do not currently have a job -- or the millions more Americans whose real wages have stagnated or declined in recent years because their occupations were flooded by foreign labor.

Although the nation already has nearly 40 million foreign workers and dependents, McCain has repeatedly said that we need to import even more. During the last two years, he has pushed various bills that would double and triple immigration.

McCain
Your column illustrates why I will NEVER vote for McCain!!!

Voter Ignorance
A new poll shows that over two to one of Repubs think John McCain can be better trusted to fix the border instead of Romney. We will get the nominee we deserve. Few voters seem to do any research before deciding who to support.

McCain’s Mexico City amigo
Polls now show ROMNEY ahead of McCain in California. Meanwhile, feature news stories describe how "McCain is winning approval from conservatives". Where is this anomaly taking place? Something might be going on within Tamaulipas, Jalisco, Chihuahua and other states in Mexico. After all, McCain’s “Hispanic Outreach Director”, Juan Hernandez holds dual citizenship in the United States and Mexico.

By his own words, the seditious Hernandez supports open borders as part of Mexico’s "Reconquista" of the United States. Hernandez, while on McCain’s presidential campaign also holds office as “Advisor to the Mexican federal government”. This Mexican nationalist lists a principal home residence in Mexico City. McCain probably offers the amigo Juan Hernandez as one of his staunch conservative supporters.

Should McCain pull off a hijack of the GOP nomination, tremendous numbers of tentative voters will either cast their ballot for the Flat Earth Banana party candidate or not show up at all. The level of revulsion held for McCain by factual conservatives is without precedent in modern American history.

McCain Nomination
For those who want to check out McCain, do a google search and type the words John McCain, US Navy Pilot in the search bar. Then come and tell me about Mitt Romney's failings!!

In 2001 McCain was considering switching parties so he could flip the Senate. Jeffords beat him to it!

In 2004 McCain said that he would seriously consider running as Kerry's VP because of their
friendship!

He was lucky enough to get out of the POW camp, but once he was in Congress, He, along with John Kerry made sure that none of the remaining MIAs would be accounted for. Why? So they could finalize a trade agreement with North Vietnam.
John McCain's POW status does not make him a HERO!!!

Just a couple weeks ago, McCain was discussing foreign affairs and referred to Putin as the "President of Germany!"

The Democrats and news media will CRUCIFY him in the campaign because he is too old, can't communicate, and seemingly "forgets" saying things that are on the record!!!

If McCain is the Republican nominee, you can just mail it in. It's Over!!!

What I don't understand is..
why the Republicans have a winner take all policy for the primary election. Yes it does serve to choose a candidate early. So what!!!!! What we need is to choose the best candidate. It would be much better to give each candidate the percent of votes they won in each state. Let those votes accumulate and be used at the convention. If a candidate drops out then his votes drop out with him.

The whole primary process looks like a complete mess to me. Someone recently said the GOP should force all states to have their primary on the same day. Not a good idea if winner takes all is in place. We could end up with a real Mc-stinker.

The primary should allow public opinion to become more informed on the issues before the election process begins. Absolute position papers should be issued by each candidate on a set number of issues determined by the party. These papers should be published so all could read. Then debates should be held to discuss the differences between the issues. After that the primaries should be held over a one - two month period followed immediately by the convention.

We the people are not well seved by the Mc-lies and Mc-flips of crafty politicians. As the old saying goes if you repeat a lie often enough eventually it begins to sound like truth.

Mitt or McAmensty?

Would rather vote for the guy who has come around to your point of view or the guy who is still giving you the finger?

Let's get some basics straight, here.
1st of all, I'm just not buying this notion that lil' Johnny is the only, or even the best, choice for "the war on terror." If one recognizes that infiltration by foreign terrorists & their gear is a major, critical issue, what's the 1st, obvious, fundamental, low-hanging-fruit policy to address pursuant to it?

Why, border security, of course.

One who is cavalier about border security and the entry & presence of illegal aliens has NO credibility as being serious about fighting terror.

Johhny Mack is NOT conservative except in a Lewis Carroll Humpty-Dumpty sense where the C word means just what the McCainiacs intend it to mean when they say it.

Conservatives do conservative things & (more important IMO) refrain from & oppose anticonservative things. They do these things from principles rooted in a conservative worldview, rather than trying to pander to this or that segment of the electorate on a given day, nevermind the elite political class & the pop media. They don't divide the "social" and "fiscal" conservatives because there really is no inherent division. They reach out to conservatives by being one, & others by trying to persuade them of the rightness & advantages of conservatism. Those they can't persuade, they regret but understand, stick to their principles, move on, & don't fret over the fact somebody doesn't like them.

It's a bit late in the day & suspiciously convenient for Mac to decide he's got to mend fences w/ conservatives. JM had his chance when he floated "McCain-Feingold," when he cosponsored "McCain-Kennedy," and "McCain-Leiberman". He & his disciples has no cred trying to distance himself from them now, especially in the grudging fashion he does.

republican POTUS who cares?
if mccain is the nominee, why would conservatives support him?

he has done nothing but stab the conservatives and fellow republicans in the back. he has worked hard for his friends across the aisle while undermining his friends in his own party (does he have any?)

the GOP leadership has got to be really misguided if they think that people will pull the lever for this guy just because he has anR next to his name.

they say he is ready for Cmdr in Chief. i do not believe it. he wasn't a great general. he didn't write up the surge plans and give them to petraus. all he did was vote for it.

he was near the bottom of his class at the naval academy. he crashed several planes as an incompetent pilot. he had to have daddy admiral pull some strings so that he could be qualified as a pilot.

after the war, with no marketable skills, he divorced his wife and married into money. he used his wife's money to buy a seat in congress where he has been forever.

we made fun of john kerry when he was the democrat nominee and now we are about to nominate our own "john kerry". how stupid are we?

i won't vote for this incompetent, vindictive and traitorous man.

if it is mccain, be a maverick - VOTE OBAMA!

McAmnesty??????


You Gotta Vote
Please do NOT stay home. You must vote. You do not have to vote for Hillybama or McAmnesty. There are always other parties and people on the ballot. You could write in Joe Oliva. The important votes are for House and Senate seats. Conservatives MUST win seats in the House. The House is where things get done. It was the passage of H.R. 4437, an enforcement bill, in Dec.05 that sparked the illegal alien protest marches and moved this issue to the front burner. It was the Senate that tried to jam amnesty down our throats. The D's that won seats in '06 were conservatives running on enforcement platforms. One of them, Heath Shuler D-NC, introduced the SAVE Act. Call, e-mail, or write your Congressman and urge support of this legislation. Enforcement is what Americans want, not amnesty.

Amnesty is a losing proposition.
I don't think Hillary is stupid enough to step in front of this bus.
McCain is.

JOHN MCCAIN NEEDS A HEARING AID

When I heard McCain's Hispanic Outreach guy was none other than Smiling Juan Hernandez, I knew John McCain has heard nothing we have had to say.


Smiling Juan Hernadez
We know who he is, we know his loyalties are to Mexico, we know he wants to erase our borders and immigration laws.

JOHN MCCAIN, YOU NEED A NEW HEARING AID

Smiling Juan Hernandez
In case you don't know him, he used to work for the Mexican govt., lately he has been shilling for "rights" for illegal aliens in this country. He has said he wants Mexicans to remain Mexicans even if they are living here. His loyalties are to Mexico, not U.S.



Questions for illegal alien apologists like John McCain:

Why does The National Council of the Race (la raza in spanish) and the Chamber of Commerce get to negotiate a "Comprehensive Shafting of The American Citizens" behind closed doors? Since when does an organization representing foreign nationals breaking our laws get to rewrite our immigration laws to suit the lawbreakers? Isn't this akin to allowing NAMBLA to rewrite our laws regarding child predators? Or allowing organized crime syndicates to rewrite racketeering, gambling, prostitution, and extortion laws?

We The People are being told by our representatives that we should sit down and shut up while they invite in the entire world. We The People should get some say in this matter. Another amnesty will set off a stampede like we have never seen before. There is not much time to save our country. All the money and power are on the side of shoving this amnesty down our throats. The RNC wants an amnesty candidate, don't vote for one.

Bill Bennett typical mainstreamer
that hedges every comment to be on the convenient side, or help himself stay on the good side of the RINOS , if they get in power.

"Ask me tomorrow" his says. When, after Super Tuesday, what a lukewarm phony Bill Bennett has always been.

He praised homeeducators, then found a way to make money (or try) with a government funded online charter school, then he wasn't as enthusiastic about educating outside of government for excellence.

Bill Bennett never met a crap table his didn't love while editing a "Book of Virtues" for children and families.

Let's see, who is he going to promote, but McCain, while being a guest commentator on CNN.

Hopefully, it is not too late for conservatives to get it and not vote for McGranpa, but Bennett will be singing the praises of McCain, but a few compliments to Romney, just in case, because Bennett's a true phony.

McShamnesty SUCKS
But check out what I posted on Hillary "MANDATORY" Clinton!

Also posted, a rip on the Gov of the Sen KKK Byrd State!

Authoritarian roots of McCain Hatred
Conservative elites are obsessed with "ought to be" or "should be." In their view everyone "should" believe the way they do since they are so obviously right.

If the elites indeed see things as the way they are instead of the way they would like them to be, they would see that Americans have many different beliefs.

There is no "ought to be" that has legitimacy, authority or relevance. There is nothing that "ought to be one way or the other." There is only the way things are.

It is the innate authoritarianism of the elite conservative psyche which tells them that there is a definite way that "things ought to be," and that any deviance from that is evil.

The McCain/Obama ticket
The media coverage for McCain is absolutely relentless, his photo's everywhere I look.

I guess the insider fix is in: Fool the people, make McCain the Republican nominee, and Obama becomes president, guaranteed...

The media's not reporting things like the following:

Did you know that Mitt Romney took only one dollar as salary for turning around the Olympics? And that he took zero dollars for his service as a State Governor? And that as an unpaid lay minister he has put in probably thousands of hours counseling and serving members of his church, for free?

Dr. Romney graduated among the TOP 5% of his class at the prestigious Harvard Business and Law Schools. Only 15 out of 550 cream-of-the cream Harvard Law School students in the extremely rigorous combined MBA/JD program graduated with a doctorate! Romney was one of the 15.

Compare Governor Romney's brilliant intellect, his record of selfless service to others, and his incredible achievements in finance, business, and government with McCain's graduation at the BOTTOM 5% of his military class, his dismal "maverick" performance as a senator, his one time service as commander of one military base, and his lifelong reliance on the public purse for his livelihood.

(How can McCain possibly successfully debate Obama who too is a Harvard grad? McCain's way over his head - that's why he's endorsed by the New York Times and so many liberals.)

Decide for yourself who's best prepared to be leader of the free world and to defend the cause of god-fearing Americans!

The truth's got to get to Grassroots America real quick or we're stuck. That can only happen via the internet.