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Thursday, December 28, 2006
Donald Lambro :: Townhall.com Columnist
Clinton and Obama, keepers of the liberal flame
by Donald Lambro
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WASHINGTON -- When Hillary Clinton began to readjust her campaign rhetoric to reinvent herself as a born-again centrist, few bothered to check out whether she had shifted rightward in her voting record, too.

With rare exceptions, she hadn't. Her rhetoric had changed around the edges, as when she talked about finding common ground with right-to-life advocates. But "her voting record on abortion issues didn't change one iota," said an official at the National Right to Life Committee.

Yes, the New York Democrat had voted for the Iraq war resolution (as did other Democrats like Massachusetts lefty Sen. John Kerry). And she votes for the defense-appropriations bills, and a free-trade bill here and there, but the rest of her votes have been overwhelmingly left wing.

Who says so? None other than Americans for Democratic Action (founded by Eleanor Roosevelt and Hubert Humphrey), a yearly liberal scoring index on congressional votes.

Clinton scored a perfect liberal rating of 100 percent from the ADA in 2005. So did Barack Obama, the freshman senator from Illinois who, after two years in the Senate, now wants to be president of the United States. Their 2006 scores, which will be out shortly, will be close to those grades.

Obama's centrist-sounding campaign speeches, inspiring perorations for compromise, unity and bipartisanship, have propelled him to his party's front ranks. He now runs close behind Clinton in some of the Democratic presidential-preference polls.

But his nonpartisan tone belies a far more liberal agenda on a wide range of domestic and national-security issues (he ran against the Iraq war in his 2004 campaign and looks to government as the answer to every ill that confronts us). In the broader scheme, both now head a field of Democratic presidential hopefuls who are pointedly and uniformly more liberal than the nation at large -- raising alarm bells elsewhere in the party.

The shift didn't get the attention it deserved, but the lineup tilted further to the left when former Virginia Gov. Mark Warner and Indiana Sen. Evan Bayh dropped out of the race for the 2008 nomination.

Both men, with a deeper range of executive experience than most of the presidential wannabes, were respected advocates for a centrist agenda on domestic and national-security policies.

Their departure from the presidential arena left behind a field of far-left contenders for an office Democrats have won in only five out of the last 14 presidential elections.

That worries moderate-leaning party strategists like former Minnesota congressman Tim Penny who fears this will allow liberal candidates to use or exploit the rhetoric of moderation without actually embracing the centrist policies themselves.

"If you don't have a genuine moderate in the race, it allows liberal candidates to put on the mask of moderation because there's no certified moderate to compare their rhetoric to reality," Penny told me.

Warner, a pro-business Democrat who was hawkish on defense issues, and Bayh, a popular two-term governor from a heavily Republican state who chaired the centrist Democratic Leadership Council, won little support from a party that is now in the grip of the anti-war left.

"Without them in the race, it leaves us without diversity on the campaign trial. That also leaves us in a circumstance where the remaining candidates will be more liberal than the mainstream voters and will not be challenged as aggressively if Bayh or Warner were in the race," Penny told me.

Democratic campaign strategist Alan Secrest also acknowledged their withdrawal "probably does leave the field somewhat more liberal." But "I don't think it's fair to say they left the race having concluded that a centrist cannot win," he added.

"It wasn't ideology that drove Warner and Bayh out of the race. It was the personalities in the race they were up against -- personalities like Clinton and Obama that often overcome ideology," he said.

However, another Democratic campaign adviser cautioned that, as left wing as the field is now, "the conservative nature of the electorate has not changed. It's still relatively conservative. People like Obama and Clinton know where the boundaries are in the electorate. I don't think it means racing off the cliff to the left. It means appealing to the center once they win the nomination."

Even so, he added, "In the short term, the pack is more liberal than it was." That is demonstrably clear right now. Al Gore is more fiercely liberal on economic and national-security issues than he was in 2000. All the others are also playing deep into left field. Kerry's score is 86 percent. Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd and Delaware Democrat Joe Biden score 79 percent and 77 percent, respectively. Ohio Rep. Dennis Kucinich is nearly off the charts at 92.5 percent.

Compared to these and other contenders, Bayh's more centrist score was a milder 61.9 percent.

So the lesson in 2008 for discerning centrist Democratic voters is this: Beware of all that moderate-sounding rhetoric from the candidates. Check out their voting records first.

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pitbull
agreed.

Hitlary will sic her lapdog Carville aka Gollum on Osama and that'll be that.

He'd better watch his six or he'll end up like Vince Foster. Holding a .38 pistol with a .22cal hole in his head, and his death ruled a suicide.

No two ways about it
Clinton and Obama rely on the cult of personality. Will the American voter be swayed by veneer and posturing over substance?

The Dragon Lady
Nothing or no one will stand in the way of The Dragon Lady getting the Democrat nomination and the White House. We will have quite a scenario to watch as she stomps on Obama and the selects him as VP and the country goes further down the tubes. The country is in a sad way and this scenario makes it even sadder. We can all hope for a miracle to get her discredited and made unacceptable.

here we go
This is all part of the right wing strategy play book. Whoever is the Democratic candidate in 08 will be portrayed as a wacko, way-out liberal by the right wing spin machine, and all of the suckers on this site will lap it up like big goofy St Bernard's.

By the time they're done with Obama you folks will think he's the anti-christ, Hitler and Stalin all rolled into one.

Phylo out.


pitbull
The cop on the scene stated so but was ignored. He also stated that there was a lack of blood at the scene for a head wound. LOTS of inconsistencies in the autopsy report as well.

Indeed, one photo has Vince with the pistol in his hand (an UNTRACEABLE pistol that is) and head wounds are WELL NOTED for making the recipient of them drop their weapon, hostage, bomb, etc. THAT is why SWAT/HRT units GO for the head shot.

Another inconsistency is that the guy was NEVER w/o his briefcase, his secretary swears, yet he did not have it in the park, and it appeared three days later with Hitlary. I guess Vince was busying walking around DC, with it's HANDGUN BAN, with his .38 in his pocket? Yeah, right.

and there we go
Call a liberal a liberal in this country and you are immediately accused of being a hater and playing from someone's handbook.

Simple question, Phylo: If Hillary and Obama are not as liberal as their voting records imply, why do they vote the way they do?

Second simple question: If they are as liberal as their voting records imply, why do they lie about when it comes time to get elected and pretend to be moderates?

The peoples socialist republic of IL
As someone born and raised in PSRI Obama scares the living daylights out of me, because he comes from Cook County. Illinois is generally conservative except for Cook County and that’s why people like Obama are elected into office. The whole town of Chicago rotates around the welfare system and the greed it promotes. The corruption of Chi town is legendary even to those that do not live there. The whole county runs the state as most politicians that get into the leadership positions are anointed by the Socialist running Cook County. We also have some pretty stupid laws like having to apply with the State Police for A Firearms owner’s identification card. Without said FOID card you can not buy a gun or even the ammunition for a gun. There is not a right to self defense in Illinois as you can’t legally carry a concealed firearm. I also remember the greed and corruption of Governor “Big Jim” Thompson’s 16 year legacy. This and a few other reasons contributed to me breaking my mother’s heart when I retired. I told her that I was sorry, but I could not and would not live in the PSRI. She understands how I feel.

ArticPara85
Congrats on escaping PSRI.

I myself escaped the People's Republik of Kalifornia in 79 when I enlisted. Did everything in my power to avoid going back to Kalifornia after my one and only tour at Camp Pendleton. Camp Lejeune may be a nasty hole, but at least the people are normal.

Kimberly
So you think that a 1-2% return on your Social Security investment is GOOD?

Did you know that Gov't bonds return 3-4%?

Did you know that WITH the Depression and all of the crashes figured in, the stock market returns are 7%?

The ONLY reason that liberals are against the reform of SS or the privatization of SS is that is frees people from government dependence.

The City workers of Galveston Texas DO NOT participate in SS and guess what, they enjoy an AWESOME retirement and when they die, their beneficiaries GET THE MONEY. Unlike SS where the gov't keeps it.

http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba/ba514/

Try to read it Kimbat. It might actually give you an original thought!

Enjoy those dribs and drabs with SS Kimbat, I'll take my 401K and TSP ANY DAY!

GunnyG
As you can guess by my moniker I have spent quite a few years in North Carolina. Fayetteville was a hole too, but most of the people were generally level headed. I really admire southerner's pride and fighting spirit. I'd fight next to one any day any place. I’ve been to PRK too and after comparing notes with my older brother who was a bubblehead (20 yr Navy Ret) I don’t blame you for not going back. Although I did enjoy the high desert of Edwards AFB. Keep fighting the good fight, I’m proud to call you my brother in arms.

Articpara85
We've definately crunched the same beetles no doubt. Trust me my brother, the fight against liberalism won't be over until I draw my last breath. They are the enemy.

KIMMY!
Okay, quite obviously you have failed to take my advice in the past.

Therefore, I am ONCE AGAIN offering your my 12 step plan to help you perform a cranial extraction from your posterior. Please, feel free to use it and pass it on to your many libstooge friends. I truly hope that you benefit for it as many former liberals have.

http://noliberalspin.townhall.com/g/12d2bcfe-7679-4caa-a35a-e602fc908dfe

KIMBERLY, KIMBERLY, KIMBERLY
Expanding national defense is not what conservatives consider big government. As a matter of fact, one of the liberals favorite presidents worked under a federal budget where 50 percent was devoted to defense (JFK). I believe it is somewhere in the 4-6% range now.

The gay marriage issue is not owned by the Republican party. As far as Terry Schivo is concerned (I assume that is where you were heading), her family had the agony of watching their daughter die, against their wishes. Her two-timing re-married husband did not.

If government intervention doesn't work than it isn't positive, accept in motive, which doesn't help anybody.

p.s. Good point GunnyG

GunnyG
Amen
I'm in that fight with you too brother.
NO RETREAT,NO SURRENDER. EVER
Lead, follow or get the h*ll out of the way.
God Bless America.

HVYSLPR
Thanks. I am currently working on the testimonies from 100's of reformed libdolts, who have taken my FREE COURSE, who are now fiery conservatives dedicated to the cause. I have had the honor of accepting their VRWC loyalty oath and bringing them into the fold.

There are no bad liberals, just frigging stupid ones needing to be reeducated.


ArticPara85
I think that after the next terrorist attack, that the pendulum will swing way to the right, as it should already be.

Peace through Strength.

Liberals just can't concieve of the idea that your enemies should FEAR attacking you for what will happen to THEM!

Social security
an early 20th century solution for an early 20th century problem. Let's keep it for our 21st century problems and 21st century international economy. Even now, the politicos are planning on increasing the ss tax and decreasing ss benefits. Maybe because the system is antiquated, inefficient and doomed to continual degradation.

Is this the use of right reason, calling something a battle over a non-issue? What is being battled over if something is a non-issue? La La Land is at hand!!!

GunnyG posted
the question, "guess Vince was busying walking around DC, with it's HANDGUN BAN, with his .38 in his pocket? "

Good question, Gunny. I thought Dems were anti-gun fanatics.

Hillary and her White House crew sanitized Foster's office BEFORE the D.C. police could check it out. That's routine police procedure when death by gun has occurred.

To liberals, though, routine police procedure is Nazi-ism.

DavidMac
Thx.

Another question.

NO ONE heard the .38 go off? Guns are LOUD and even a .22 makes an audible crack.

As usual where the Clintons are concerned, something smells like a Korean rice paddy cooking in the August sun!

GunnyG posted
that, "NO ONE heard the .38 go off? Guns are LOUD and even a .22 makes an audible crack."

Right, Gunny, but you're forgetting that it happened in Washington D.C., murder capitol of the US. No one would think much of it if they did hear gunfire.

My main beef is with Hillary: she didn't even wait until she was president to obstruct justice. Even Nixon and Slick Willie Clinton waited until AFTER they were sworn in.

That and the mis-use of FBI files. And the Rose Law Firm billing records. Oh, and the Travelgate scandal.

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure she's done a whole bunch of other criminal acts.

Phylo
I guess "Secrest out" was already taken.
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