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Friday, May 29, 2009
Dick Morris and  Eileen McGann :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Incredible Shrinking Clintons
by Dick Morris and Eileen McGann
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Asked why he was naming some of his rivals to top administration jobs, President Lyndon B. Johnson said it best: "I'd rather have them inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in."

President Obama seems to echo Johnson's management style in his handling of Bill and Hillary Clinton. By bringing them into his inner circle, he has marginalized them both and sharply reduced their freedom of action.

It may appear odd to describe a secretary of state as marginalized, but Obama has surrounded Hillary with his people and carved up her jurisdiction geographically. Former Sen. George Mitchell is in charge of Arab-Israeli relations. Dennis Ross has Iran. Former U.N. Ambassador Dick Holbrooke has Pakistan and Afghanistan. And Hillary has to share her foreign policy role on the National Security Council (NSC) with Vice President Biden, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, CIA chief Leon Panetta and NSC staffer Samantha Powers (who once called Hillary a "monster").

With peers who are competitors and subordinates who can deal directly with the president, Hillary is reduced to announcing foreign aid packages for Pakistan while Holbrooke does the heavy lifting.

Part of Hillary's problem is the institutional shrinking of the State Department. During the Bush years, while war raged, the Defense Department became more relevant to the conduct of foreign policy. And, under Obama, the financial crisis has propelled the Treasury into the forefront. State, with its emphasis on traditional diplomacy, has been forced to take a back seat. Even though Obama appointed Hillary, he clearly has not been willing to make her a co-president and confines her to the diminished role of her department.

For his part, Bill Clinton has been asked to be a special envoy to Haiti. Yes, Haiti. Obama's predecessor asked the former president to orchestrate the response to the Asian tsunami and then to Hurricane Katrina. With Obama, he gets Haiti.

Meanwhile, both Clintons are effectively muzzled and cannot criticize Obama even as he reverses President Clinton's free-market proclivities and budget-balancing discipline. Hillary, the supposed friend of Israel, must sit by quietly and watch Iran get the bomb while trying all the while to stop Israel from preventing it.

Bill can't even make money. Denied the ability to accept speeches from foreign governments or their organs and fenced out of continuing his profitable relationship with the emir of Dubai, he and his wife must accept the loss of the $13 million they spent on her campaign and sit by passively, unable to earn the money to replace it.

Just as Abraham Lincoln buried his rivals William Seward, Salmon P. Chase and Edwin Stanton in the Cabinet and then on the Supreme Court, and Woodrow Wilson buried William Jennings Bryan at the State Department, so Obama has hidden his predecessor and his rival in plain sight at the upper reaches of the government.

How long will Hillary subject herself to this discipline? Likely as long as Obama is popular. Should his ratings fade, she might move away from the president and could even consider a primary contest against him in 2012. But while he is on top of his game, she'll stay loyal.

But she is shrinking by the day. Once Obama's equal -- and before that his superior -- she now looks tiny compared to the president. She doesn't look like a president in waiting -- she's more like a senior staff member hoping to rise in the bureaucracy. No longer at the head of a movement or the symbol of rising women all over the world, she has faded into the State Department woodwork.

She is much less visible than her predecessors Henry Kissinger, George Schultz, James Baker, Madeleine Albright or Condi Rice. She is even less in the public eye than was Al Haig during his one-year tenure. One has to go back to the likes of Warren Christopher or William Rogers to find a secretary of state as far down the totem poll.

This diminished status has got to grate on her and on him. But they are trapped in Obama's web and cannot easily escape.

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Dick Morris, a former political adviser to Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and President Bill Clinton, is the author of Condi vs. Hillary: The Next Great Presidential Race. To get all of Dick Morris’s and Eileen McGann’s columns for free by email, go to www.dickmorris.com
 
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Money
Once the government is in charge of health care almost everything you do -- what you eat, how fast you drive, whether you have a pet -- will be a federal concern. Denying care will be about the only way the government can hold down costs, so it’ll look for any excuse to do so.

Gone by Christmas......?
Wrote a couple of paragraphs that were downright mean. Instead I'll make these predictions:

Hillary resigns before the end of 2010.

Biden sticks to 2012 but won't be on Nov. ticket.

Obama loses re-election bid.

Repubs hold White House to 2024.

Democrats come back, but to no headlines...unless you count magazines. Newspapers will be a memory, like Mr. Obama, Mr. & Mrs. Clinton, and, uh, Buicks.


21 percenters
PlanoBlue - in regards to the typical rantings of a juvenile liberal with no real grasp of the world - 59 million people did NOT vote for your savior and there are many that did who bitterly regret it.

First black president
Don't forget Bill Clinton was the real "First Black President" and Hati is the prefect place for him. Moving from Harlen to Hati will be an easy move.

Shorter version
0bama copied a strategy used by erstwhile (and treasonous) Canuckistan PM Myron Baloney of appointing party-rival (perceived as biggest threat) to a cabinet position which would keep the rival OUTSIDE the country (and presumably unable to orchestrate mischief in-country).

As Tea Party states however, Shillary is a lot more intelligent and toxic (apt analogy with viper) than the bumbling "Joe Who".

Well, I tried,
but I couldn't dredge up the slightest bit of sympathy for the Clintons. They are both criminals and collaborators with Communist China. Whatever Obama wants to do to them is fine with me.

It could be fun if he pushes them too hard and they come up with a way to hose him. Hey, if they want to fight I'll be happy to hold their coats.

Hey Dick?
They're gone and not coming back. You can quit being afraid now.

sue
the only thing we have witnessed is that the messiah is a better alinsky communist than his real life disciple the missus clinton.

While alinsky couldn't recruit the missus clinton directly he was able to far more damage by converting the messiah after he died.

But perhaps that shows that the messiah is more pliable than the missus clinton. It may actually be possible that the clintons have more love for america than flap ears.

But I keep asking the same question. Why are the dims sitting on their hands and letting the messiah act like a dictator

BUT VOLCANOS ERUPT!
With due respect, Dick, these two could rise up and spew like concurrent volcanoes with little or no effort, but for Obama. I am not a supporter of the disaster Obama is reeking on the American people and his changes of policy are as changing as a blowing breeze, but I give him credit for his ability to circle his wagons, so to speak, and capture two chiefs, then minimize or stop their war chants. Thanks for your remarks and insight into tweedle dee and tweedle dum. Will they never go away!

boo
what we have is a demonrat party, that after listyening to non stop hatrted of bush and repubs from dim leaders and the msm is actively turning their back on the oath they took to defend america.

Many dims are totally driven to destroy the repub party, led by piglosi and corrupt land deal reid. But even worse the all the dims in congress are marching in goose step with the messiah and his efforts to destroy amewrica.

I amtired of hearing this lie that the dims love america and will defend the greatest country on earth.

As long as they vote on bills that grow the federal deficit by a couple of trillion this year and many more trillions in the future, they are nothing more than compliant lackeys actively working to destrouy the country and the economy.

They stood silent while the messiah went to other parts of the world and blamed america for every problem on earth.

And now they are standing silent when flap ears appoints various czars to head up his new programs of who is leading america, when in the past these positions required congressional inquiry and approval.

It seems the dims have no problem with the messiah acting like a dictator and the elcted president who by law is supposed to work with congress and get their approval on matters affecting this country

The Empty Suit
I simply cannot believe someone who stutters so badly when away from his teleprompters can be smart enough to orchestrate the events of the last few months. Obama is the smiling charismatic salesman for the "powers" that have been lurking in the background waiting for their opportunity to destroy America's strength and influence.

America is the world's last shining hope of freedom for ordinary people...and the light is fading faster than I could ever imagine. We've become a nation of sheeple.

eugene in nv
the 80 year old lilly, prior to her new love god showing up had sounded more like a proud ember of lesbians for hillary.

But once the chicago fraud showed up, she decided to live her glorious youth at a beatnik infesting coffee houses where she listed to all those commies singing kumbaya about universal brotherhood and why capitalism is the evil of mankind.

I guess her pot smoking and free lov e days of the past have totally confused her to the reality of the day.

But being a typical socialist/commie, she knows best how to waste your money rewarding the losers she cries about but does nothing to help

08hayabusa
Great response to lilly.

It' funny ( and sad) how libs somehow think they will be immune from anything bad this admin may bring down on the country.

It's as if they are all little 'bubble boys'.

I laugh to myself inside as a lib I work with extolls the virtues of clean energy and Obama's take over of the auto industry so we may finally have the 'green' vehicles that Detriot "won't build."

Yet his prize possession is a huge, tricked out gas guzzling GM truck.

I kind of can't wait until all 6'5" of him pull up in a little green Obamamobile.

That's if we still have jobs.

Of course it will all be the Carlyle Groups fault who holds the secret patennt on big trucks that run on garbage.................

"Keep your friends close...
and your enemies closer." Thats how the old saying goes. It would be in everyone's best interest to find ways to goad the Clintons on. If we goad them enough they may just find ways to undemine The Great Oz. Nothing like rotting from the inside, he has tried to place them where he thinks they will do the least amount of dammage to him. I am hoping that is not so..

Too Clever for Security
Obama may have won political battles, but that will not help us when Iran is nuclear.

Haiti may be very profitable
Bill might be able to squeeze out some serious money from the Haiti gig. Extremely poor and corrupt countries tend to be easy bleed.

This Article Amused Me
I couldn't help but chuckle while reading this article. It's rather intriguing. Hillary and Bill Clinton were unbeatable even with all of the negative investigations that surrounded them while they were in office. Hillary leaves a high profile job to become the first woman U.S. President and then an unknown community organizer and U.S. Senator was a surprise to the American people, but in reality Obama applied for the Office of U.S. President back in 2007 right after he proposed and implemented his secret Global Poverty Act (which Biden supported)that would require a U.S. President to mandate the American taxpayers to pay for worldwide abortions, so Obama had his eye on the U.S. Presidency for quite awhile. But,the democratic liberals didn't care which candidate would win because it would be a first and historical: a Black man or a woman - either winner could be sensationalized in the media and made out to be historical - but money talks - and we know the rest of the story - and now, Obama has Hillary where he wants her and Bill Clinton trapped in the Obama web - and as the web continues to be weaved - I suspect there will be others who will find it difficult to free themselves from a complex web that they helped weave....as the world turns...to be continued.....

the original cactus head
I think the left is in denial of what he and his handlers agenda really is. I hear so many say he is trying to right a situation he inherited. Balderdash!

I just would like to know if George Bush was agreeable with what Paulson,Bernanke,Geithner and the other financial gurus were planning or if they pulled one over on him by exagerating how dire the situation was.

We still don't know where that initial bailout money went other than what AIG received. What did AIG do with the money? I read that 2/3 of it went overseas.

I think this was a plan hatched long ago and came to fruition when Obama was ready for prime time. With billions in the porkulous bill,to play with they could do whatever they pleased and we know what that is.

media
Govt controlled media might not be a bad idea, after all liberals won't be in control forever.

rowly
there is one big difference it seems between the messiah and the harridan clinton.'

It seems he learned how to be the better commie

But it is strange the trolls aren't enthralled with the article in pravda. I thought the lefties always approve of gov't controlled news.

And we already see the msm is fully a part of the socialist's parties plans and they cheer on every destructive move of the pretender in chief.

But I would wager that the msm and the trolls would have never imagined they were fully part of the new marxism being pushed by the chicago fraud.

They love his agenda but kept telling themselves they were progressives and not the commies and their fellow travelers they are in actuality.

Funny how the commies are so in love with the cult of the personality. But when commies around the world express admiration for the things the messiah is doing you would think that it would disturb at least some of the msm of their new affiliation

Obama triumph that muzzld Bill & Hillary

Her selection very clever was to neuter her power as well as Bills to Haiti (Hell) symbolic isn’t it. Clever as it may be let’s take a good look at the reel picture. Obama inside power base is not clear to the American public. Each and every appointment has had the effect of raising the noise lever from the real issues.

Our diplomatic circles are fragmented with this fix of Hillary. Country’s who at one time respected the United States are now looking at us as a big social experiment imploding from a power struggle.


Why is it that all of the special interest groups are taken care of before the largest special interest group heading his way GRASS ROOTS.

Obama stated he will give us change but what is that change. He has diversified the cabinets to the point that we need to be politically correct to converse with our latest minority in service. Understand there is nothing wrong with diversity in fact it is great as long as it is positive change not punitive. The later seems to be the case. This new administration is more concerned with the game of chess, moving power around that actually doing business.

What has changed? We have seen more employees in the government to serve a bankrupt America and no one will stand up to say that. The emperor is nude and we had been congratulating him on his fine suite. Our day to day confidence is declining with this administration there is more rhetoric coming out of Washington than substance. I would think that Harvard would have helped him understand the American public is not as dumb as he acts we are.

lilly
l illy
The History of an Empty Suit
I love reading these posts. Not long ago you-all conservatives told us that Obama was naive, stupid, inexperienced, and dense. You called him Obambi and the Empty Suit and Odumbo. You said he wouldn't know what to do in Washington. One poster said he was a happy-go-lucky black buck who would just ride around in Air Force One all the time, leaving the hard work of government, which he did not understand, to his many advisors (that being why he appointed so many).
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We called him those names because we could not call him what we really wanted to and what he really is and get Townhall to accept our posts.

I knew that would get to them
...truth

lilly
lilly Location: IL
Reply # 50
Date: May 30, 2009 - 12:06 AM EST
The History of an Empty Suit
I love reading these posts. Not long ago you-all conservatives told us that Obama was naive, stupid, inexperienced, and dense. You called him Obambi and the Empty Suit and Odumbo. You said he wouldn't know what to do in Washington. One poster said he was a happy-go-lucky black buck who would just ride around in Air Force One all the time, leaving the hard work of government, which he did not understand, to his many advisors (that being why he appointed so many).

Well, hello. It seems Obama does know what to do after all. Handing conservatives their a** included. But he does it so nicely. Cool.
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It just like a dumb Liberal not to realize that Obambi is handing them their a** too. Just like Hitler handed all the Germans their A** too.

Hockey mom
Go easy on old Lilly.She still standing on the corner while the bus left years ago.She just cain't hep it.

I agree
she should have stayed in the Senate. Now Pres Clinton can't say anything about this farce of an economic policy, either, no one else seems to have the guts except Evan Bayh. He should be the next Dem nominee, imo. Obama - what a fraud - GET OUT!

The only people who think
Obama knows what he's doing don't know what they're doing. Pres Clinton looks brilliant next to him and Dick Morris is still a parasite sucking off his back for a buck.

Nobody has any limelight in BO's admin, he is intent on hogging the spotlight on every issue, even telling us to wash our hands after using the toilet.

But frankly, I prefer Mitt Romney in 2012. Dick Morris doesn't like him, either. Hmmm... Clinton is a Rhodes Scholar, Romney earned two masters with honors from Harvard... both have incredible accomplishments. Not sure where Morris gets off belittling either one, he is the one who looks small.

Reset Button Did Not Help Cause
One could argue that that mishap established her as an amateur. She should have practiced with the Bolivians before trying it on the Russians.

Sandy Berger Must Have Missed Something

Archives offers reward for missing Clinton hard drive.

The US National Archives offered a cash reward of up to 50,000 dollars Friday for the recovery of a missing computer hard drive containing sensitive personnel data from the Clinton administration.
Described by the archives as a "Western Digital MY BOOK external hard drive" with a 2-terabyte storage capacity, it contained copies of backup tapes from the White House dating back to president Bill Clinton's tenure in the 1990s.


The drive was discovered missing on March 24 from an archives processing room in College Park, Maryland.

The disappearance of the drive, which included social security numbers and other personal information of White House employees, is being investigated by the US Secret Service.

The archives said it had not yet determined whether the drive had been lost or stolen.


It's the staff that count
What really helps Obama is bringing the Clinton retinue into his administration, not Bill & Hill themselves. It would take an awful lot for Hillary to lure those staffers away from their Obama administration jobs to try and defeat an incumbent president in 2012.

Shrillary got Dick Morris fired...
re:
"Dick, I think you're very wrong about the Clintons and president Obama. It's obvious you have something against the Clintons and try to trash them at every opportunity you may get."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

...after he had been Slick Willie's trusted political wind reader. I think that DM had an affair which got some bad press, which she used as her excuse, but she considered DM a rival for influence with Slick Willie. Shrillary and DM never got along... so ever since he has been bitter toward her.

Morris probably has no real principles or scruples-- just a strong drive for personal aggrandizement-- like many of his ilk (his name was changed). Similarly, the neoCONS have feigned being conservatives just to get us to take out Iraq for Israel's security.

Clintons and president Obama
Dick, I think you're very wrong about the Clintons and president Obama. It's obvious you have something against the Clintons and try to trash them at every opportunity you may get. No need for such hatred. If you want to sell your books and eat the conservative money, do it honestly without making such baseless allegations. I think you've done more harm to your credibility as a voice of reason in our political discourse that no one really pays attention to you anymore. what a shame.

Hillary is where she wants to be
First of all, Hillary lost. So president or co-president was never an option. Morris made a straw man and wrestled it by talking about co-presidency.

Morris makes it sounds like she could have made major changes in Obama's policies if she had stayed in the Senate, but that's not true. She was just one vote, and didn't have much seniority. She wasn't even a committee chair.

Her chances for 2012/16 are better by serving as Secretary of State than as Senator. One of the digs against her was that she never ran (managed) anything. Now she can stay she ran the State Department.

Hillary is also set up for the Clinton's favorite tactic, the political knife in the back. She can wait until Obama is weakest, then break away to run against him in 2012. She would have inside information. Hillary could say all the unpopular policies were Obama's, and she couldn't argue publicly because of loyalty. She avoids having to take a stand on anything.

Tammy
You are delusional, dear. With Obama's mishandling and deliberate worsening of the economic mess he keeps claiming to have "inherited" we won't see another Democratic President for 10 years. You cannot consistently punish the productive members of society in order to give handouts to your supporters and expect to get a second term. If things continue to tank as they are, he will be lucky not to be impeached before his term is out. Each day he proves himself to be incapable of speaking to more than 5 people without a teleprompter and that he has no grasp whatsoever on the basics of economics.

I would like to see Hillary step away from this increasingly shrinking position and return to her Senate seat where she can actually be productive and prep for that primary run against Obama in 2012. People are no longer so dazzled by his charisma that they won't ask questions about who he really is, where he comes from, and what his plans for our country are. He won't see a second term.

Dick
Who is going to replace you, when the Republican
Party shrinks into nothingness.

Bill
Actually I think she is being primed to be our
next president after Obama retires after his
8 years are over.

lilly
The History of an Empty Suit
I love reading these posts. Not long ago you-all conservatives told us that Obama was naive, stupid, inexperienced, and dense. You called him Obambi and the Empty Suit and Odumbo. You said he wouldn't know what to do in Washington. One poster said he was a happy-go-lucky black buck who would just ride around in Air Force One all the time, leaving the hard work of government, which he did not understand, to his many advisors (that being why he appointed so many).

Well, hello. It seems Obama does know what to do after all. Handing conservatives their a** included. But he does it so nicely. Cool.
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If Dear Leader was the architech of this transformation,I would agree,but he is not. He is the 'Frontman'. No doubt he is good at selling the plan,but it is not his alone.

If it was his,he would not need a teleprompter to articulate his every word. Maybe sometimes,but not EVERY word. He could speak off the cuff if it was in his head.

A salesman can sell a house,a car or other merchandise even though they had nothing to do with making the product. That is your Leader.

Chicago politics National style
If anyone has followed Democratic Daley machine politics they realize that if a fellow party member makes a mistake, Or breaks ranks and opposes on a particular issue. Or even commits an act that harms the party. You NEVER, EVER banish them from the party.
You simply place them in a position that marginalizes their power and influence.
But the party stays together. Period.

The Democrats never eat their own. Their's is a strict diet of conservative meat. And unfortunately of late, Its unbundant and been smoked ready for the dinner table.

I wonder
I wonder is this 'stress' is what is behind that hysterical giggle that comes out almost everytime she tries to speak to the press?

The Three Stooges
The Three Stooges - I like that observation / comment. I will laugh as soon as I can quit crying and my depression medications kick in. That is, if I could afford or qualify for depression medications. That is, if I do not die before I qualify and they are rationed to me. Ah Rats!!! It is too late, I am a goner!

To quote Dan Ackroyd from the SNL skit
"LILLY YOU IGNORANT SL*T," YOU couldn't be more of an uninformed, ignorant a*s if you tried.

What Obama is doing is well outside the powers granted to his office by the United States Constitution. Since when does a president have the power to just declare "this is the law and how things will be done" as he did when he unilaterally, WITHOUT Congressional approval, moved up the date for the implementation of 35 MPG CAFE Standards BY FOUR YEARS?
WHERE in the Constitution does it say that he can do that?

WHERE in the Constitution does it say that the President can fire the head of a private sector corporation, or tell another one that THEY WILL merge with another company? Especially when that other company is FOREIGN owned.

WHERE in the Constitution does it say that the president can appoint people(all of his "Czars") who don't need to be approved by the Senate, to positions of authority over so many aspects of our daily lives or government function?

The answers to ALL of the above is, IT DOESN'T. HE HAS NO CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY to do 99% of the things he is doing, and he knows it.

AND IGNORANT, AMERICA HATING FOOLS LIKE YOU THINK IT'S ALL JUST HUNKY DORY!!

Well Lilly, as another poster has already said, you'll wake up to how wrong, AND ILLEGAL all of this is when it comes home to bite you on your fat, ignorant a*s.

Trust me on this, IT WILL COME HOME TO BITE YOU.

I love it-- in part!
re:
"No longer at the head of a movement or the symbol of rising women all over the world, she (Shrillary) has faded into the State Department woodwork."

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The only thing good about the ObaMessiah leading the Left is that "the smartest woman in the world" is neutralized... the leftist PC MSM revels either way...

God it is hard to bear Keith Overbearing, Rachel Madcow, and David Shyster of the Mainly Socialist Network Broadcasting Company braying and gloating... EGAD!

Chris Mouthhews (who has political ambitions in PA.) is slightly less biased and overtly obnoxious.

This too shall pass... the ObaMessiah imagines it all to be simply a function of big guvment solutions, REALLY so the left can grow its power to take from the producers and self-aggrandize the liberal "ëlites." This is why amnesty is coming-- it will assure the permanent hegemony of the Left when there are 100 million new poor and mostly ignorant voters over the next 20... which will cost us $2.6 trillion.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1076.cfm
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Immigration/wm1490.cfm

America will wake up from the Pied Piper revery, but MUCH damage will have been done by the Chosen One and his Left.

keep your friends close...
re:
Asked why he was naming some of his rivals to top administration jobs, President Lyndon B. Johnson said it best: "I'd rather have them inside the tent pissing out than outside pissing in."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

... and your enemies closer.

I think that the ObaMessiah picked Shrillary for State to assure that she could not run as a rival next time if (when) he screws up the economy.

Pure Machiavelli-->
characterized by subtle or unscrupulous cunning, deception, expediency, or dishonesty: He resorted to Machiavellian tactics in order to get ahead.

"Poor" Hillary
I believe when many of delegates deserted Hillary when it looked like she had the election in the bag...it devastated her.

After many of her collegues in the senate chose Obama over her,that devastated her,also. I believe she could not bear to return to the senate and work with them.

She had one alternative...to accept the Sec.State position offered her. A prestigious position until Obama and his minions stripped all the clout that position had before.

Now she is a left to do usless trivial things and say trivial things that will be underminded by her 'bosses'.

How sad,but she deserves it and they both deserve the wrath that will come their way when the citizenery wakes up and realizes they have lost their country.

I think Its funny
That Hitlery now is running around trying to get N Korea to stop what her Husband Bill caused by giving NKorea the Nucleur Fuel on a handshake to start with.

Libs always think they know better than anyone,
if they APPEASE the ENEMY like BILL did

WAITING FOR KIM JONG IL TO TELL HER TO GO TO HELL JUST BECAUSE HE CAN AND WE CANT DO NOTHING ABOUT IT

Iran is watching

Of course THE BIG O wants to send Bill to that HELL HOLE(HAITI) so he can get him out of the way.

LEVIN VS FRUM: RIGHT VS WRONG
David Frum's problem is that he has an unfounded confidence in Barack Obama and the Democrats. He foolishly believes that this man and his left leaning party are going to endure in power like FDR and the Democrats of his time. Frum is 1000% wrong! Before he even took office Obama had tragedy, misfortune and failure written all over him. From the day that this man was born, 67 days into JFK's 44th year, he was doomed to lead our country into peril and suffer a disastrous fall*. The Magical Mystery Tour of the 08 campaign is now the Great Democratic Train Wreck of 2012. Obama is LBJ and Jimmy Carter combined with a little JFK thrown in. Stick to your principles! God and history are on our side! Click my name and read: The Death of Madelyn Durham and Barack Obama: Transformational President or Fortune's Tragic Fool, for inspiration and insight.

*Obama and the Kennedy Clan will be the subject of an upcoming work: Barack Obama, the Kennedy Curse and the Fatal Star of Socialism



It's a HOOT!
I was just wondering the other day: Where in the World is Hillary Clinton, our SecState? Kinda similar to Where's Waldo? And..BJ accepting an envoy job to Haiti; gotta be some blackmail there.
They've been Sal Alinsky'ed. This is so rich that you gotta have a good laugh.

Machiavellian President
Obama's greatest life skill is the acquisition of power. That is truly his life that shows accomplushment. However, there is a danger inherent with his marginalization of Hillary. If the economy remains in the tank, the GOP makes gains in 2010 and in gubernatorial races, and Obama-fatigue sets in, she is enough on the outside that she can easily mount a challenge. Remember, she dominated the last three months of the primaries after he built a surprising early lead. In the end, we may hear the words, "et tu, Hillary?"

edgycater.blogspot.com

Upland Williams 3:28AM
You nailed it.

His defeat of these two can only signal that we are in worse shape than before.

The Damaged Pair
These two have done enough damage to the country for a lifetime. If they had been Republican,especially conservative Republicans,they would have been crucified by the Democrats and their lapdogs,the MSM if they had done even ONE of the criminal things they are known to have done.

They were crimnals in AR,and they brought their criminal family to Washington and put them in the administration. Does that ring a bell? History repeats itself,doesn't it?

Now this criminal in office is using that same Clinton Cabal in his administration.Just like the Mafia,the 'family' is everything.They protect each other because they are all crooks.

This is...
beyond disturbing. The article link below addresses the intentional chaos inducement you see unfolding under Obama--it's well reasoned and documented. Just read it and ask yourself whether the dots are better connected now in your understanding as to why the Dems are engaging in behaviors that appear to be contrary to the interests of a stable and commercially vibrant America.

It was virtually impossible to find out anything regarding Obama's years at Columbia U during the campaign. Now we know why. The connection between Obama and these Columbia radicals is undeniable.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the _strategy.html

Wake up, America, or die in your sleep!!

pulled link
The link #7 posted has been pulled but the article still comes up (as of 9:13 am EDT) if you google:

"American Decent Into Marxism Happening With Breakneck Speed."

Apology Due
Sorry, foggy! You are correct. I should re-examine my position and quit insulting trailer trash by comparing them to the Klintons.

I remain optimistic Hellary and Bill Cigar will foment turmoil from within and help to bring down the House-Of-Alinsky the oBUMadope is building.

As Corndog noted - the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Not pleasant? Not palatable? Probably not, but in dire times unholy alliances are sometimes required.

DICK CHENEY, WINSTON CHURCHILL AND FDR
In his criticism of Obama's national security policies Dick Cheney is being compared to Winston Churchill in his Wilderness Years before the outbreak of World War II. But Cheney who was born on the day of Franklin Roosevelt's 59th birthday, in the year of Pearl Harbor, has a strong Providential tie to that President and was destined to be our 9/11 Vice President.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read my newly published piece: Dick Cheney, Winston Churchil and FDR: Warnings of Coming Catastrophe.

Sad
Isn't it sad to see all the posters here wishing for a return of the Clintons so that SOMEONE SOMEWHERE will oppose "flap ears the pretender" (good one, CH). How about the Republiwhigs? Isn't opposition their role? We have a RACIST nominated to the Supreme Court - but most Republiwhig senators say we can't point that out, because pointing it out would be wrong.

NO, IT'S RACISM THAT IS WRONG!

If we don't organize a conservative party, the US is done as a free state.

To Mike - please don't insult trailer trash. They may be loud, sexual, and drink too much, but they are not venal as are the Clintons.

Diplomacy without arms is like
music without instruments.

Obama is smart enough!
My father referred to men like Obama as educated dopes. His relative intelligence gave him the advantage over McCain and his not quite room temperature IQ.

When the MSM secured the nomination of McCain as the GOP standard bearer it became a certainty that whomever the Dems nominated would be the president. We all knew what Hillary was about. On the other hand, Obama's potential to reek havoc was less certain. Obama's only saving grace was that he was smart in a Machiavellian way.

Once stupid, always stupid, so if McCain had won America was doomed. Obama is merely ignorant. The ignorant can assimilate new information, so there was just one small glimmer of hope with Obama.

I can identify only two or three things that Obama has done right, so hope for the Obama administration is fading fast. Oh well, like I pointed out during the campaign, the hope was a very slim one.

A Waste of talent.
I find them both hard to take but this is an absolute waste of their talents and somewhat insulting.I am surprised they put up with it. I think Hillary can shoot from the hip and would do so with some of these recalcitrant nations. The President obviously intends to be, "Oh so very nice" to everyone.
Don't you get sick of these constant reprimands to Iran and N.Korea, knowing that nothing will be done? It becomes embarrassing.

The Klintons

I've recently developed a soft spot for the clintons. I'd kind of like to see them get up to their old shenanigans and start causing a little dissent within the dimwit party.

You know what they say "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Hope and Change
Perhaps the Clinton's bought into oBUMa's Hope & Change spiel, and are hoping that the change will occur at the top?

I can't tolerate either one of them. They are, always have been, and will continue to be representative of immoral Arkansas trailer trash and have done great harm to the country for decades.

With that said it is difficult to understand how they would, individually and collectively, allow themselves to be marginalized as they have apparently been under the Mountebank-Of-The-White-House. After all, this was not their first rodeo, and oBUMa is little more than a walking eggplant with ears.

Perhaps they know something we don't. Although I'd like to think this nation has seen the last of them, I can't get over the notion that they have a game plan they're holding close to the vest. As the Original Cactus Head noted - Hellary might not have made a better president, but she would have been a less effective communist than the Abortionist-In-Chief currently esconced in the Offal/Awful Office.

Lilly
When Obama's (communism's really) policies start to affect YOU, it won't be so very "cool". Like a typical selfish liberal, nothning is a problem until you are made to be uncomfortable.
I assume you are older, and perhaps if national health care is implemented YOU will be denied medication or procedures because you are too old and its not cost effective. That will be a problem. As jobs continue leave the US and the standard of living decreases, perhaps YOU will be unable to get products or services you have grown accumstomed to. That will be a problem. If you have an extended family, you will see younger people important to you unable to get jobs or start businesses (support themselves, which is something you have never done)- I already am seeing this. Maybe that will be a problem for you (maybe not...).

Any way you turn matters, your applause for the rise of a naive and corrupt man will end in tears- but only when YOU are made to be uncomfortable.

Clinton's Marginalized: Why
Morris' points are well taken. Interestingly is the silence of the MSM, who for years told us the Clinton's were the most brilliant of politicians. Obama's out foxed them. Morris now needs to tell us why the Clinton's allowed themselves to be marginalized.

An odd aside
Who "needs" to replace $13,000,000.00?

I do think Obama has come to weaken this country on a variety of levels. I have worked in Trenton long enough to recognize the tactics, goals, and results. You do not want to live in any city run by people like Obama, and in time we will not want to live in this country run by the likes of him either. High crime, increased poverty, and a much lower standard of living. This is truly a mess.

I thought no one could be worse than Hillary Clinton as POTUS; boy was I wrong.

Schadenfreude
you sure don't want to have Dick Morris as an enemy. He is like the proverbial 'scorned woman;' he will never let up on his one-time employers, the Clintons, especially Hellary. Morris is viscious,visciously accurate. By Morris logic, perhaps the Clintons should re-hire him, to buy his silence.

and where are the american loving dims
we constantly hear of how much the dims love america, yet they are marching in goose step with flap ears the pretender while he destreoys america

'The dims have stood by and watched flap ears destroy the independence of the banks. They hav e sat on their hands while the messiah has destroyed what remains of the auto industry

And flap ears has his sights on the health industry and the dims are cheering him on.

Meanwhile the fraud from chicago circumvents congress by appointing czars to various positions and congress does nothing to oppose his lust for absolute power.

But it seems the clintons have decided they are now totally irrelevant. Not that the missus clinton would have made a better president but she would have made a worst communist.

I have no sympathy for the clintons, they have willingly aided the messiah, but looking at who flap ears has appointed, he has surrounded himself with second rate talent to make himself look stronger and smarter than he is.

I fully support the tea party movement but fear that by the time the next election comes, it may be far too late to undo the damage the fraud from chicago has done.

His hatred of america and love of personal power is on display daily and still the lefties, the trolls and dims in congress are cheering him on.

HILLARY THE MISERABLE
If you want to see a human being more miserable than Robert Gibbs just listen to one of Hillary's foreign policy speeches. Her dreams of presidential power fade by the day as she watches Obama make a shambles of America and the world.



Immoral vs. amoral
The Clintons are immoral, conniving shysters. Obama is an amoral, conniving shyster. In this sort of situation, amoral will defeat immoral, as an immoral person at least recognizes that there are such things as moral positions and is occassionally restrained by morals.

Obama is a master at manipulating people within the US political setting. Unfortunately for the country, he also thinks he can use the same tactics in international affairs. This, I think, will lead to severe future problems.

Obama, with his too many dictats about too many subjects, also seems to think he was elected Dictator rather than President. I take heart, at least a little bit, in observing that Democrats in Congress are starting to push back against some of Obama's more egregious plans to remind him of how the US system works.

Now, if only the Republicans......

You don't get it.
Lilly, You don't get it. President Obama knows how to get power and keep it from other people, but he doesn't know how to govern.

He was, is, and always will be an empty suit. If you can mention even one thing he has done in the past to show that he is qualified to be president, please mention it; so far I have not heard of a single thing.

Hillary made the mistake by taking the
State position in the first place. She would have been much more powerful as a Senator, and would have retained her independence in the party. As to Obama being so smart (and I don't think it was his idea), he simply used the age old management tactic of promoting a person into irrelevance, i.e., give them a sought after position with diminished powers. Don,t rule the Clintons out yet.

watching Obama let the UAW devour
the carcus it created makes one ill.

She even looks depressed.
Never a smile.

Obama
lilly #9 You must be at least 12.

Obama is riding around in air force one most of the time. Now he is raising money for the Dems at taxpayer expense using air force one.

I have never seen so many fools in one place as in Washington DC. Of course half of the country are fools for voting for the biggest fool of all.

Hey Lilly, Read This
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11280

Sadly, you appear to be right. But equally sad, it's not just conservatives that are going down. Obama's expertise at implementing his idiotic ideology will be the end of us all.

The History of an Empty Suit
I love reading these posts. Not long ago you-all conservatives told us that Obama was naive, stupid, inexperienced, and dense. You called him Obambi and the Empty Suit and Odumbo. You said he wouldn't know what to do in Washington. One poster said he was a happy-go-lucky black buck who would just ride around in Air Force One all the time, leaving the hard work of government, which he did not understand, to his many advisors (that being why he appointed so many).

Well, hello. It seems Obama does know what to do after all. Handing conservatives their a** included. But he does it so nicely. Cool.

Good riddance, indeed!
This is about the ONLY good thing Obami has done. Hillary is buried in the State Dept. and perhaps that appointment to Haiti is a ploy to just plain BURY Bill. After all, with Bill's proclivities, he's sure to dip his stick into something unclean, and Haiti is NOT the place to be doing that (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/10/071029-aids-haiti.html).

Warnings From PRAVDA.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2260868/posts
***********************************************
Drudge has this article from PRAVDA titled.
"American Decent IntoMarxism Happening With Breakneck Speed."
************************************************
It's pretty bad when we must be told by PRAVDA of our folly electing this man.



Good riddance
The only thing good I can imagine out of this thugocracy called the obama administration is the final farewell of those trashy Clintons. Now if we can only rid ourselves of this criminal bunch starting in '10 and then getting the rest in'12, perhaps we have a chance for our wonderful nation to survive.

Haiti is next to Cuba
it's a potentially volatile situation involving Venezuela and Iran close to our shores. Hillary is Secretary of State and maybe she thought she could help the country that way. Bill Clinton doesn't bash sitting Presidents, anyway. Gore did that on his own.

Ah
but remember, vipers can still strike quickly when the opportunity arises.

Kenny Rodgers song comes to mind, you know the one about knowing when to hold them and when to fold them...I wouldn't be too complacent about those two.

The Three Stooges
Of course Obama is Moe,who slaps the other two around and is always the thinker and boss.

The other two are just biding their time until Obama brings the country to it's knees.He is robbing the treasury and spreading it around to his cronies.

He knows the plan to destroy capitalism and march toward The New World Order.

By comparison Obama makes
the Clintons look like conservatives, and respectable.

Whatever respect I had for Hillary . . .
. . .--and it wasn't much--disappeared when she took the Secretary of State position.

Surely, she and Bill understood that they were surrendering and self-muzzling themselves?

But give Obama credit for exploiting whatever sense of party loyalty the Clintons have.

He won.
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